The Trouble with Sorting || Hogwarts House Personality Analysis

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MonarchsFactory

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This time on MonarchsFactory I get Too Easily Distracted by Harry Potter the task of nailing down the specifics of Hogwarts House identities, whether you be Gryffindor, Hufflepuff, Ravenclaw or Slytherin, and the inherent flaws of the sorting hat system.
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@AndreaHeckler
@AndreaHeckler 7 жыл бұрын
This is the best overthought analysis of fiction that I've heard in a LONG time! Haha love it 😂🤓
@MonarchsFactory
@MonarchsFactory 7 жыл бұрын
Hahaha, thanks :D
@emilypruna5847
@emilypruna5847 7 жыл бұрын
Dael whipped out a chart, she is not fucking around!
@MonarchsFactory
@MonarchsFactory 7 жыл бұрын
Seriously, you would not believe the amount of tables and graphs I've drawn up in my lifetime to discuss completely unimportant things...
@IanMoldovan
@IanMoldovan 7 жыл бұрын
If I am understanding what you were saying, these are your (for lack of a better word) Dual House Identities: Slytherdor:Outside Validation // Ravenpuff:Self Validation or how do you find validation. Slytherclaw:Self Oriented // Gryffinpuff:Community Oriented or where do you place your goals (I did a really bad job in trying to get these ones down. It was much harder to put into words than I thought. I totally get what you mean). Gryffinclaw:Focused // Slytherpuff:Planning or how do you priortize. I don't know if I nessisarily agree with these definitions, but I definitely find them interesting and will have to dwell on it for a bit. One thing I have considered (because it is always the question of why do we sort kids who are still developing into houses like this) and one theory I have is that the sorting hat can see the future. It reads the threads of fate of each child and determines which house they belong in OR which house will help them grow. My theory for the second part is this. I think Rowling said that the sorting hat has ever made 7 mistakes, one of them being Peter Pettigrew. His motivation is always out of fear. When he was at school he was seen as weak and a coward. He grows past this a bit when with his friends, the Marauders, doing crazy things with them and eventually joining the order. But his cowardice eventually catches up with him as he betrays everyone out of fear. We learn from Trelawny that no one can see the future perfectly. My theory is that the Hat sees Pettigrew giving into his cowardice even though he didn't want to. And so he sorts him into Gryffindor, in the hopes that by surrounding him with those like minded peers he will grow to be braver than he was. Either way, I'd love to discuss any of this more. Houses are always very fun. I think it's interesting as well considering that after the age of 17 and you graduate, it doesn't really matter. Once you get a job in the real world and aren't constantly wearing your house colors (I mean, you may still wear your scarf with pride like Newt) but it doesn't dictate anything. Kinda like it doesn't matter what group you hung out with in high school cause afterwards it's a new fresh slate. My thought has gotten away from me and now I'm just babbling. I'll end here!
@MonarchsFactory
@MonarchsFactory 7 жыл бұрын
Ooooh, that's super interesting! The idea of the hat trying to head off future issues by surrounding someone with the right people, that's kind of awesome. Especially works when you read Neville as a foil for Pettigrew, too.
@IanMoldovan
@IanMoldovan 7 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you see that too. Neville has been trying to prove himself brave (somewhat unintentionally) since the first book. Like when he stands up for himself against the trio before they go after the Sorcerer's Stone. It was something that he believed was right and he stood by it. Makes him a Gryffindor at heart. But the fact that Dumbledore gave him praise in front of everyone really helped encourage him to be brave. And we can really see him progress in a way that Pettigrew didn't.
@MidasStorm
@MidasStorm 7 жыл бұрын
I always read Neville's sorting as a mirror of Harry's. He would have done well in another house (I think Neville would have been better suited to Hufflepuff), but he didn't want to be in that house and asked to be in Gryffindor like his family. It also works for the prophecy, keeping Harry and Neville similar.
@IanMoldovan
@IanMoldovan 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Neville actually asked the hat to put him ih Hufflepuff. He didn't think he had what it takes to be in Gryffindor. However, the hat saw the bravery that was hiding in him (or possibly foresaw him being a total BA in the second battle) and went against what he chose.
@farmerboy916
@farmerboy916 7 жыл бұрын
Ian Moldovan I have an issue; let's take one example, say that slytherin/ gryffindor focus on outside validation. But is that really true? Because while both outwardly do focus on that, there's something to be said for the trials harry goes through that we see in the books are really "what are you in the dark," his response to which makes him a true gryffindor. And slytherin is just as much about plans or schemes that no one else (or at least not the wider world) will ever know about, and their success; a true slytherin who is cunning is not a braggart save when it suits their purposes. Outwardly shaping the world perhaps and recieving validation for achievement either way, but neither of those are receiving it from others; instead merely from within. I do like the idea of the hat trying to head off problems, but am starting to think that it's more about intentionally promoting 4 specific ways of thinking/ producing 4 different varieties of people, and perhaps creating tribalistic factions; for what purposes in british wizarding society I don't know.
@KBTibbs
@KBTibbs 7 жыл бұрын
T.E.D. videos are magnificent. One of my absolute favorite things to say is, "You've thought about this way too much. Now tell me everything." It's always a fun and interesting ride through things that utterly capture other people's focus.
@MonarchsFactory
@MonarchsFactory 7 жыл бұрын
Haha, I like that phrase a lot
@freetalkn657
@freetalkn657 7 жыл бұрын
I was so certain that I would be sorted into Ravenclaw that when Pottermore put me in Gryffindor, I was enraged. I logged out of the newly created account instantly! I received an email from them a month later, reminding me to fully enjoy the site and I was once more furious over my perceived slight. I called my sister to rant about how wrong the Pottermore sorter was, when she stopped me, "Only a Gryffindor would be this angry about sorting for so long. They got you pegged." I was blown away! She was right, of course. It was funny how relieved and good I felt after she pointed it out, and I laughed about how silly I had been. She /is/ a Ravenclaw and was sorted as such. I love my clever little sister to bits!
@SnakeAndBadger
@SnakeAndBadger 7 жыл бұрын
freetalkn657 I'm a big believer on people belonging to whatever house they want to. I was originally sorted into Slytherin on Pottermore, and I refused to accept it. I was, in my heart of hearts, a Hufflepuff, and no quiz was going to tell me otherwise. :P
@ConriDubhghail
@ConriDubhghail 5 жыл бұрын
SnakeAndBadger My first thought upon hearing your story is that adorable snake wearing rabbit ears. "I will be the fluffiest and friendliest thing in the world, no matter the cost in blood and souls!" -BunnySnek
@mollygauer9473
@mollygauer9473 3 жыл бұрын
@@SnakeAndBadger I'd definitely don't want to dissapointed you, but only a Slytherin don't accept an answer as they wanted ( also this is just my point of view so you can either take it or not )
@emomsen1089
@emomsen1089 Жыл бұрын
@@DaDunge Not really, a lot of Slytherins have Hufflepuff as a secondary house and vice-versa, they are all intertwined in a weird way
@elijahwalker2623
@elijahwalker2623 Жыл бұрын
Have you tried the extended quiz? It asks all the questions from the quiz instead of a small fraction at random. That’s how I found out my house was Slytherin
@iupooiresa
@iupooiresa 7 жыл бұрын
The Ravenclaw/Gryffindor vs. Hufflepuff/Slytherin division reminds me of an analysis of Sebastian Stan's fight styles in Captain America: The Winter Soldier. The author describes Bucky Barnes as a sniper, he focuses on one threat at a time, and *then* pivots to see what other threats he needs to deal with. Winter Soldier is a hunter with a thousand mile stare. He isn't blatantly focused on handling any one particular thing, he's constantly observing and assessing everything. In the former cases we see laser-sharp focus of energy and attention with more immediate (and potentially dramatic) results. In the latter cases, attention is being spread out over the entire field of view and more energy is being put toward assessing and prioritizing than immediate directed action.
@MonarchsFactory
@MonarchsFactory 7 жыл бұрын
That is. SO. COOL. I love that, definitely relevant to my crazy person sorting hat analysis interests, thank you!!
@AJUniverse
@AJUniverse 7 жыл бұрын
I've been distracted by _Skyrim_ for, like, the seventh distinct time.
@MonarchsFactory
@MonarchsFactory 7 жыл бұрын
Oof, I know them feels.
@DrukenReaps
@DrukenReaps 6 жыл бұрын
Those are rookie numbers :P
@PontusWelin
@PontusWelin 7 жыл бұрын
short term vs long game. I would say "task oriented" vs "strategic"
@PontusWelin
@PontusWelin 7 жыл бұрын
good point.hmmm..
@thertsman8233
@thertsman8233 7 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love when you can see how someones mind is working like this. it feels almost like an audible art, where the artist is not actively trying to influence the audience but instead just finds and idea and expands on it again and again until absurdity. this is fun :D
@ZombieChimpanzee
@ZombieChimpanzee 7 жыл бұрын
wouldn't it make more sense for all students to spend a random order for their 7 years in each house, so that each student has experience with all different types of people, and develops different aspects of themselves more equally? instead of becoming caricatures and exaggerated versions of their personalities?
@MonarchsFactory
@MonarchsFactory 7 жыл бұрын
Totally! I know it's a different thing, but my high school had all of us from the performing arts streams do at least one term's worth of classes in each of the performance disciplines so we'd have an appreciation for all of them, not just our own.
@trevorlange
@trevorlange 5 жыл бұрын
The sorting hat seems to me to place students in specific houses to help them feel the most comfortable. Even though personalities can range widely within each house there are also common aspects shared by members within a group (just as there are diverse personalities within the board of a company, they share the concern for the company but might have different ways of approaching solutions). You have to remember that students spend a total of 21 out of 28 months living at hogwarts so the hat puts them where it thinks they will feel most comfortable and will have easy access to people who might have already experienced some of the same issues. People also seem to forget that the houses are not isolated from one another. From the very beginning each class is made up of students from two houses and later all houses are represented in the classes that are opted into like divination or advanced potions. Moving students around throughout the houses at random through the years I think would actually cause much more discomfort and stress especially for those people that do not or cannot deal with change very well. The houses create a sense of community and belonging, changing those houses could cause a sense of isolation or unease due to never feeling like they belong somewhere or never being able to settle down. My ramble is over.
@jacksonmcnuggets7488
@jacksonmcnuggets7488 3 жыл бұрын
Most of our core identity is molded during childhood. Puberty is a confusing time because we try to find our place in this huge world. People usually stick to “their” own whether it’s because of age sex interest class etc. The Sorting Hat divides human psychology into 4 which in itself a crime I mean there are many shades of grey Saying that basically any of the 3 houses can be a Gryffindor if they have or learn or are forced to BE BRAVE Slytherin are all the rich famous people with power (Harry’s Son is famous) Ravenclaw are the smart people who are either stuck in the system or completely opposing being called conspiracy theorist (Luna and her dad) Hufflepuff are the peacemakers, animal lovers marijuana huffing and puffing having munchies with the kitchen elves the hippies of our world Ron (Hufflepuff but cause he’s poor and a large family he needs to learn to be brave) Harry (Slytherin he rose to fame because of voldy but he decided on bravery rather than glory) Hermione (ravenclaw but she’s a mud blood who in the books is not as pretty as Emma Watson) Basically if you’re in a house other than Gryffindor u lack bravery... I’m a ravenclaw and one day I hope I can be a braver person cause I know myself I’m scaredy rat like scabbers... sometimes
@johnathanmartin1504
@johnathanmartin1504 11 ай бұрын
@@jacksonmcnuggets7488 Luna is very brave, as is Cho. They are both Ravenclaw. Newt Scamander is Hufflepuff, and I dare you to say he isn't brave.
@marctelfer6159
@marctelfer6159 7 жыл бұрын
The slow descent into madness was amazing, and so intense. This is basically me when I try to explain anything that I really enjoy. Delving too far into something can be a lot of fun, but fairly-twitch inducing as well :P
@Stormandfire
@Stormandfire 7 жыл бұрын
I also have a lot of opinions on House sorting. Which generally boils down to that almost all quizzes are so very broad strokes and do tend to fall into caricatures of what the houses stand for that they are pointless and you're better off sorting yourself/asking a friend to sort you. I think I've taken a total of 1 House-sorting quiz which had a percentage based result where you could be 45% one thing and 38%, 23%, 40% in others. I also think an EXCELLENT job interview question would be what house would you sort yourself in and why, and what house would other people sort you in. That kind of forced situation is probably one of the only instances I'd support a shallow reading since it's not about the actual house qualities, but what qualities the person thinks qualifies them for that house and that can tell you a lot about a person. There's a little diagram in a notebook I have which lays out the houses in kind of oppositional cross shape in much the same way you figure out the various shared values of the pairings, and then labels two attributes that together typify the houses. I ended up with diligence, loyalty and intelligence, but I couldn't figure out a good one for Slytherin/Gryffindor that wasn't too much a synonym for diligence. (I currently have persistence and I think I used to have determination there.) Unfortunately the two values does leave Slytherin/Hufflepuff and Ravenclaw/Gryffindor as 'true opposites'. Maybe I should go with three values like you did and try to figure out those shared attributes for the missing pairs. I would say something like responsive/consequential for the G/R and H/S, but consequential does have a slight negative connotation, 'you will face the consequences' etc. Maybe immediate/legacy? Also: I like playing the sorting characters into houses game on hard mode. Which is thinking about which house they would've identified with at the age of 11, not the house they identify with at the age they are in canon. (Extra hard is what house would've shaped them into the person they are currently.)
@MonarchsFactory
@MonarchsFactory 7 жыл бұрын
Aha! So you've basically gone through the same process as I have, that's so interesting! As far as my thinking goes I tend to view Gryffs/Claws and Puffs/Snakes as true opposites as well, often wondering at how Slytherin and Gryffindor ended up being such rivals when really it should be Ravenclaw that has the biggest problems with Lion methods. It /would/ make a brilliant job interview question! I like both your non-hierarchical pairs, as well - dang, you're great at this!! That hard-mode sounds incredible and I can feel myself getting distracted further by it already. What have you done.
@chrisjsauer1
@chrisjsauer1 7 жыл бұрын
Autofocus freaking out seems appropriate for TED videos.
@max.lindgren
@max.lindgren 7 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure there is no autofocus. Still quite appropriately it seems to have been (perhaps distractedly) manually set too close.
@xanthippepink485
@xanthippepink485 7 жыл бұрын
This video Was not long enough. Those minutes are rookie numbers, Dael. xD Seriously, I LOVE this! I've often thought similar things about the quizzes, that they kinda work, but not on a truly deep level. I love this dissection, and study and deep examination of this kind of thing! It's Fascinating! But maybe that just means I'm crazy too. xD But I adore the depth, and both creative and very analytical way you've gone into this, with charts and everything! You're an awesome human, Dael. I like you a lot.
@BouncingTribbles
@BouncingTribbles 6 жыл бұрын
It's like you're speaking my thoughts. Spot on for all the houses, really appreciate the breakdown.
@Fe.Marie18
@Fe.Marie18 6 жыл бұрын
This is so awesome, you put so much though into this and it’s a super amazing way to sort people, wonderful job! 😉👍
@joemiller361
@joemiller361 7 жыл бұрын
Dael, have you ever thought of doing a TED stream? Like hopping onto twitch while you're in the middle of going through your process of figuring out such topics as this and letting us watch/perhaps supply input? I think it'd be interesting.
@emilypruna5847
@emilypruna5847 7 жыл бұрын
I think that's a good idea. Dangerous but good
@froebelvergara4759
@froebelvergara4759 7 жыл бұрын
Joe Miller I second and third that
@froebelvergara4759
@froebelvergara4759 7 жыл бұрын
Joe Miller I'm going to piggy back on your idea. why not a TED video with Q & A
@MonarchsFactory
@MonarchsFactory 7 жыл бұрын
Haha, maybe it would work... Or maybe you'd just see me hunched over a notebook for three hours scribbling incoherent notes and muttering to myself.
@joemiller361
@joemiller361 7 жыл бұрын
I've seen worse streams, I think you'd be fine.
@CharlesStacyII
@CharlesStacyII 7 жыл бұрын
This insight into your psyche is fascinating. You are a very interesting human being Dael.
@cerberus1721
@cerberus1721 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Dael, I'm new to your channel and am loving your videos!! I would love to see the finale to this epic quest of yours, as I have tried many different sorting quizzes and have gotten all the different houses.
@vampmire666
@vampmire666 6 жыл бұрын
This is why i love you as a content maker so ya Good job
@parttimesaint3165
@parttimesaint3165 6 жыл бұрын
Another word for Ambition comes to my mind as a combination of Decisive and Focused.
@oliviabarkitch406
@oliviabarkitch406 6 жыл бұрын
This was a really good analysis!!💖
@kjs8719
@kjs8719 3 жыл бұрын
"let me know what you've been distracted by this week" Your videos 😂
@aJoats
@aJoats 6 жыл бұрын
(based on that one hat song) I question the premise of a sorting system in which 3 founders say I value this one trait most, and the 4th says I'll treat everyone equally and take on anyone you lot don't want. It always seemed to me that student distribution would be very lopsided, specifically with Slytherin being very elitist and Hufflepuff being so open. Anyway, enjoyed the video, and would be interested in seeing one over-analyzing D&D alignments.
@gorrie31
@gorrie31 7 жыл бұрын
Always learning stuff listening to Dael
@MonarchsFactory
@MonarchsFactory 7 жыл бұрын
This makes my heart warm.
@TheEvolvedMind
@TheEvolvedMind 6 жыл бұрын
A subject I love, interesting premise, out of focus camera and an incredibly cute host slowly going insane. Subscribed. 😉
@carrot1269
@carrot1269 4 жыл бұрын
Dael: obviously there's no way of really knowing what Hogwarts house you would be in - Me: because it's a fictional system invented by a random British woman? Dael: -because the hat is psychic Me: ah yes, I was a fool. That makes so much more sense.
@user-vy3rc4yn1c
@user-vy3rc4yn1c 7 жыл бұрын
Hi dael I can not tell you enough how much I love your videos I've seen all of your videos at lest twice
@MonarchsFactory
@MonarchsFactory 7 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks so much, you're too kind!
@Kas-rp4zb
@Kas-rp4zb 7 жыл бұрын
Your background makes me so relaxed I love it!
@MonarchsFactory
@MonarchsFactory 7 жыл бұрын
Ahh, that's really nice to hear!
@JackDespero
@JackDespero 4 жыл бұрын
I watch your videos at x2. It is an experience and I like it. Great video!
@theartmoose9390
@theartmoose9390 4 жыл бұрын
I was five seconds into this video, never seen you before on youtube, a just went "yesss this is my human" and subscribed
@stikibunn
@stikibunn 7 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I'm not the only person who gets worked up about stuff like this. I'm not into Harry Potter myself (I missed it when I was growing up because of christian parents) but I can relate to the amount of thought you put into it.
@IwaEiwa
@IwaEiwa 7 жыл бұрын
I like the way think. This video is great, I hope you get that quiz finished, I would be really interested in taking it.
@pencilhb13
@pencilhb13 7 жыл бұрын
I am actually just so incredibly interested in your ideas on this though?! Like, I've been bothered by the duality inherent to most sorting quizzes, and most of all about the "morality" placed upon them. I just really love your take on this, it's amazing and puts into words everything I've wanted but couldn't express myself!! Also, baseball shirts are dope.
@MonarchsFactory
@MonarchsFactory 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! I'm glad to know others think similarly to me. On both counts, the sorting quizzes AND baseball tees.
@omarosweekly1982
@omarosweekly1982 7 жыл бұрын
Dael you are simply entertaining... because of the organized chaos you served today...
@DeusViator
@DeusViator 7 жыл бұрын
The most Dael video ever.
@hotdogstratus6533
@hotdogstratus6533 3 жыл бұрын
I love it! Also, I yelled 'the long con' for long term goals 😆
@Jess-dv7uz
@Jess-dv7uz 7 жыл бұрын
You are actually going insane about hogwarts houses and I love it
@solahaze8948
@solahaze8948 5 жыл бұрын
The Quizzes are dumb. (anytime I open a quiz and see "what's your favorite colour", I click out of the quiz) Which House you're in has nothing to do with your personality. It has to do with your values. (And note for later, none of the Houses’ values are better or worse than those of another) Ron and Neville in their first year were both very lacking in courage and nerve, yet they were both in Gryffindor. And Hermione, who is incredibly intelligent and possesses many Ravenclaw-like traits, was put in Gryffindor, because she values Bravery and wanted to be more of a Gryffindor. The Hat sorts you by looking into your psyche and determining what kind of person you most want to be, and also which you are most likely to become. This is why children are sorted at 11 rather than an older age: because you haven't yet decided what kind of person you want to be. Of course, some people have. Take Malfoy, for example. The Hat sorted him in seconds because he already knew without a doubt the kind of person he wanted to be. Children are young. Too young to be incredibly intelligent, and too little to be incredibly brave, too inexperienced to be cunning and ambitious, and too impressionable to be unquestioningly inclusive. The Hat sorts you by seeing what kind of person you want to be, and then putting you in the environment that will best facilitate that. And I guess you could say “how does a child know who they want to be”? Well, they don’t. But the Hat does. It can look into your very core values. And the environment you’re raised in can affect those values. That’s why most families all share the same House. And the Houses, by surrounding you with people who hold the same core values as you, help shape you into a person who is able to not only hold those values, but also to exemplify them.
@nanalove3819
@nanalove3819 2 жыл бұрын
That's interesting because I thought about it today. I was thinking to myself "it is kinda stupid because, you can be both brave and ambitious, both wise and loyal". And also, "why some things go together, some people in the books proved you can be both ambitious and not clever". But then I realize, it is not really about what you are, but what you value the most. If you had to chose between bravery and loyalty, for instance, what do you pick? Do that with all the values embodied by the Houses, and then, you'll know where you belong.
@MaxPowerCrafts
@MaxPowerCrafts 7 жыл бұрын
Long time fan first time caller. I've taken that one "quiz" that really just breaks down your life like that, its hardly a quiz, and it absolutely analyzes you to the depth of depths, and applying that mentality to Harry Potter, is kind of awesome, I could have listened to 10 more minutes of that. I have been completely distracted by the channel AvE, if you want to listen to a Canadian swear and talk about tools, and he gets completely distracted himself, he's the guy to watch.
@MonarchsFactory
@MonarchsFactory 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for calling! Is that the quiz which is a proper in-depth psychology quiz and then just applies your answers to Hogwarts houses? I think that's the one my extended family handed around a laptop one Christmas and person after person after person was sorted into Hufflepuff - it was delightful.
@Anondod
@Anondod 4 жыл бұрын
This video got me thinking way too much on this topic. My own pairings ended up being something like this (without saying anyone else's are wrong): Gryffindors and Hufflepuffs will both do what is *right*, while Ravenclaws and Slytherins will do what is *effective*. Gryffindors and Slytherines are *passionate*, while Ravenclaws and Hufflepuffs are *diligent*. Gryffindors and Ravenclaws are oriented towards *ideas*, while Hufflepuffs and Slytherins are more *practical*. Gryffindors' bravery manifests through their passionate support of moral ideals. They fight against what is wrong because it is wrong. Ravenclaws' wisdom manifests through their diligent pursuit of correct ideas. They work hard to find clever solutions, but they can be a bit amoral. Hufflepuffs' loyalty manifests through their practical, hard-working approach to do what is right. They help and support others as individuals, taking a practical view of morality in contrast to the Gryffindors' idealism. Slytherins' ambition manifests through their practical expeidence in service to their passions. They figure out how to best get what they want and go after it.
@anamoralsb
@anamoralsb 3 жыл бұрын
I know this video is old but I had to comment. You're lecturing us like a college professor who's been asked what her Ph.D. thesis was. Love the video and I agree 100%
@StubbornProgrammer
@StubbornProgrammer 7 жыл бұрын
I think you might be a mad scientist - in the best possible way.
@UnfortunateFreakNo1
@UnfortunateFreakNo1 7 жыл бұрын
I think the sorting hat is a really interesting and kind of messed up social experiment. There's no actual sorting that happens. The hat literally just puts you where ever you want to go. These kids are brought up learning about the ideals of each house and which witches and wizards came from these houses. I assume they spend their pre-Hogwarts years pretending and testing (through games) which house suits them best. So kids feel like they want to express certain characteristics because that's what house they think they belong in. Since they think they belong in that house and express those traits, they get sorted into that house. Since they get sorted into that house they develop those characteristics (because that's the kind of person the magic hat told them they were supposed to be). Younger witches and wizards see them as examples of that house, and the cycle begins anew. The separation of the houses is flawed to begin with. They are all described with things that people want to identify with, so much the same way with zodiacs of the MBTI, there is literally no wrong answer. A person could identify with every house and it is only through this forced tribalism that they choose a side. These kids are (seemingly arbitrarily) sorted into one of four houses and then told that they are the best house and they have to win against the other houses. These kids are one train track away from Jets vs Sharks. Your idea is pretty cool too. As for better wording, for the Ravenclaw/Griffyndor and Hufflepuff/Slytherin dichotomy you might be looking at "Tactical" vs "Strategic."
@aspiring.creative.person6092
@aspiring.creative.person6092 3 жыл бұрын
The quizzes that show you percentages rather than just one distinct answer are a LITTLE better but yeah I agree with you on that
@Lyorias
@Lyorias 7 жыл бұрын
I love the process behind this; since you've explained it, it's now so clear to me that the non-hierarchical dichotomy idea is so what's missing from a lot of these tests. You want to be able to call Ravenclaws "clever", Slytherins "ambitious" and Gryffindors "brave" without suggesting that Hufflepuffs are therefore stupid, lazy and craven. However, in pursuing your goals I think you've managed to lose what actually makes the houses what they are. You can imagine a person who is internally validated, invests their energy on improving themselves, and who focuses on immediate concerns rather than distant ones, but is quintessentially un-Ravenclaw. If they're a bodybuilder, or a fashionista, or a spiritualist, then they very well may be missing the key ingredient of intellectualism that makes a Ravenclaw a Ravenclaw. Not to say that you can't be an intellectual bodybuilder etc., but you can be those things without the accompanying cerebral emphasis. I find the most interesting focus on the edge cases. We see this best in the Gryffindors simply because the story is told from the perspective of a fellow Gryffindor. Why is Hermione, by all reports the smartest and most studious girl in their year, a Gryffindor rather than a Ravenclaw? When push comes to shove, she's willing to break the rules and throw herself unprepared into danger for a cause she believes in. Why is Neville, a fiercely loyal friend with a heart for the community, a Gryffindor rather than a Hufflepuff? Beneath his relatively placid exterior is a core of courage that leads him to defy his friends (albeit for their own good) in their first year and transforms him into a valiant leader by their seventh. Just some food for further thought. I would really, really enjoy a follow-up to this as you develop your ideas further. I'd love to take the official Monarch's Factory Hogwarts House Quiz ;)
@MonarchsFactory
@MonarchsFactory 7 жыл бұрын
Ahh, see, maybe that's my own personal view shining through since I don't think a Ravenclaw at their core should have to be academically minded or intellectual necessarily. Which I very much understand others disagreeing with since it's front and centre of the information we have about the sorting process - I'm probably just too willing to get into a fight with a hat and any Hogwarts founder I disagree with (is my Gryffindor showing?). There's probably also an element of it which is influenced by the sheer number of times I've met someone who believes they're a Ravenclaw based purely on getting good grades, where from the outside they're so clearly something else. All very good points, very well made, though, definitely food for thought! Thanks for sharing them.
@DoctorDew
@DoctorDew 7 жыл бұрын
you did get an accent, glad it wasn't changed in editing. the hat is flawed but your eyes are flawless.
@Doliadoll
@Doliadoll 6 жыл бұрын
I love your personality!
@geeveelution
@geeveelution 7 жыл бұрын
Oh my gods i wish i could properly express how much i love this, i'm a bit of a psychology fan and your profiling just makes so. much. sense. External vs internal validation, external vs internal development, and if i understood you correctly a sort of order vs chaos (but without the heavy connotation of those words, something like "pick your battles" vs "go all out"? my brain wants to pick another "external vs internal" wordset but i'm having trouble thinking of one, if it even exists) With which i continue to think i'm a Ravenclaw. Dael for Headmistress! I would also argue that any sorting system of this type is flawed because it is a self-fulfilling prophecy; by grouping people together under perceived qualities, individuals that do not necessarily meet those qualities will subconsciously strive to develop them in an attempt to belong, which is a basic human need, especially significant given the age when the process occurs. So really the Sorting Hat doesn't have to do much beyond scoping the most obvious features of a person, and peer pressure will handle the rest. Those walk-in-walk-outs at 2:50 looked brilliant, by the way.
@MonarchsFactory
@MonarchsFactory 7 жыл бұрын
Allathis makes me happy! All of this up in here!
@BanjoJapeth
@BanjoJapeth 4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy the DnD and mythology stuff you do, but I understand that's just something to keep us occupied while you think about the really important stuff like this. The TED videos are the royalty of this channel's content
@boardslayer
@boardslayer 7 жыл бұрын
I was super distracted by the Temeraire series, but now I am probably going to spend few hours browsing and figuring out what the exact way the spectrum should be.
@TheRussianBlue
@TheRussianBlue 7 жыл бұрын
I think we just need to create and enchant an actual sorting hat to settle this officially... although I was told I was Ravenclaw but I still feel I'm Gryffindor... maybe I'm a hybrid
@jaimegallegos1314
@jaimegallegos1314 5 жыл бұрын
Dumbledore himself said he didn't like the idea of sorting the kids too young and its non-changing state.
@keithmichael9965
@keithmichael9965 7 жыл бұрын
You are an absolute delight! I totally understand. In my school counselor classes, we studied a lot of personality and aptitude tests like Myers Briggs. Makes sense to me. I'm an ENFP.
@MonarchsFactory
@MonarchsFactory 7 жыл бұрын
Hey, one letter off from my ENTP (and my closest call is between Thinking and Feeling if I recall correctly).
@keithmichael9965
@keithmichael9965 7 жыл бұрын
MonarchsFactory Very cool. I would put you in the thinking category just based on your TED videos. You like to organize information and make sense of it. Thanks for the reply! Made my day!
@thecrazycharlatan5295
@thecrazycharlatan5295 7 ай бұрын
My problem is I have qualities of all the houses except for Gryfindor so I just wish I could be legit sorted so I would want to tear out my metaphorical hair over over analyzing which one I’m in.
@SnakeAndBadger
@SnakeAndBadger 7 жыл бұрын
The dichotomy of H and G vs S and R stands out in my mind as versions of extroverted vs introverted, though that's not entirely right either. People orientated vs self-sufficient is maybe more what I'm thinking.
@MonarchsFactory
@MonarchsFactory 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's pretty good! I know what you mean, I want to use introvert/extrovert as well, but I wouldn't mean that H/G are extroverted and R/S are Introverted exactly, it's more the idea of where they direct their energy? I guess?
@scienceguy8888
@scienceguy8888 7 жыл бұрын
The menace that is my cat, El Jojo, has been keeping me pretty distracted all this week
@MonarchsFactory
@MonarchsFactory 7 жыл бұрын
That is an incredible pet name.
@joemiller361
@joemiller361 7 жыл бұрын
As for distractions, i've been stuck on a dungeons and dragons campaign setting that's turned into a book setting, but mostly it's been alot of setting, and not alot of book, ya know? Also, slytherins and ravenclaws are 'in the details' type of people while griffindor and hufflepuff are 'big picture' type of people? Would that wording work?
@tosoledo
@tosoledo 5 жыл бұрын
the word you are searching for to describe the link between slytherin and hufflepuff is conscientiousness.
@chrisprocter6107
@chrisprocter6107 7 жыл бұрын
Slytherdor vs Ravenpuff as external vs internal validation is an interesting perspective but it sounds about right Slytherclaw vs Gryffinpuff is about self improvement, or changing yourself vs changing the world, or the Buddhist monk seeking enlightenment vs the superhero trying to clean up Gotham city gryfinclaw vs slytherpuff is more task orientated vs project orientated or put it another way the detailed view vs the 10,000 foot view, or yet another way tactical vs strategic thinking So Hermione is very detail orientated, if anyone is going to spends years doing a technical deep dive into how a broomstick works at an quatum level it will be her, she clearly gets her validation from what teachers think of her, but she's outward looking enough to try and change the world for the better by putting her life on the line repeatedly to fight voldermort. Classic Gryffindor material. Harry craves Dumbledores approval, wants to be a hero, and is far better in combat then planning how to find horocruxes. Ron gets his validation from his friends and his family, wants to be the hero, and also couldn't plan his way out of a paper bag. Seems to work. Interesting thought: If one of them had been more Ravenclaw and looked at the big picture of what was happening and how they could win would they have gone on the offensive in book 5 and hunted down the death eaters before they had a chance to gather their forces, rather then spending 3 books defeating each of His moves as he made them
@MonarchsFactory
@MonarchsFactory 7 жыл бұрын
I really like Tactical/Strategic as a dichotomy there, and that is a hulluva nice breakdown of the golden trio, I loves it!
@niallpearce8043
@niallpearce8043 5 жыл бұрын
'Big blurry thing with all the colours merging into one another'...like the autofocus? ;-) Love the video.
@emomsen1089
@emomsen1089 Жыл бұрын
Oh my Lord I loved you! Are you a Ravenclaw for any chance? That chaotic scientist energy got me mesmerized
@JohnNathanShopper
@JohnNathanShopper 7 жыл бұрын
Dael, you're awesome
@kp_808
@kp_808 7 жыл бұрын
Love it.. took me awhile to get to your video. Always enjoy your T.E.D. video. :) I wish you or someone would develop this into an actual research paper/model. hehehe.
@HoaxNess
@HoaxNess 6 жыл бұрын
I think I'm in love with your brain.
@littlemikey46
@littlemikey46 7 жыл бұрын
This is why I love you so much xD
@maxontrax3375
@maxontrax3375 7 жыл бұрын
No, there is no "nicer way to say" that Janys is insane, it's one of the fundamental facts that the universe is built upon. Also; this video made me feel better about being in Slytherin.
@druid_zephyrus
@druid_zephyrus 3 жыл бұрын
Instead of short term vs long term. it is, rather: One sees the trees and one sees the forest.
@darkwolfj13
@darkwolfj13 5 жыл бұрын
You are highly amusing!
@aaetriv
@aaetriv 4 жыл бұрын
but isn't the house you land in more based on which of these core qualities you admire?
@robertphilyaw7736
@robertphilyaw7736 7 жыл бұрын
so basically your saying 2 houses are set on the here and now, as the others are set on a in time/ progression based process. I really want to hear more on this now it's very interesting, and I love things that have a lot of thought set in them.
@sophblueberry
@sophblueberry 6 жыл бұрын
Got in to your videos via D&D (it is my new favorite hobby and I’m a bit obsessed). Going through your back catalog and I think these TED videos completely explain your DM style. I love the level of thought and detail you put in to rationalizing fictional universes. It’s obvious to me that this is the same instinct that has gone in to designing your homebrew rules! By the by, I’ve adopted some of your homebrew in to my game. :) I think your brain works marvelously. Thanks for sharing.
@PhoenixInLove
@PhoenixInLove 5 жыл бұрын
I honestly just wish this was longer...
@nicholasschoonbeck6866
@nicholasschoonbeck6866 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I love your mind as well -
@drea2280
@drea2280 6 жыл бұрын
I’ve been distracted by YOU, lately all I’ve been doing is watching your videos back to back repeatedly. Honestly I might just get your accent haha
@Trollexius
@Trollexius 6 жыл бұрын
I think, i just fell in love!
@sannekimenai639
@sannekimenai639 6 жыл бұрын
I totally see what you are saying, even though the words are difficult indeed
@skipfordj
@skipfordj 7 жыл бұрын
I've been distracted by the different ways I could improve the networking in my house. I've drawn a few diagrams and spent some time (A LOT OF TIME) looking at chipset models and backplane throughput and possibly (definitely) going way too far down that rabbit hole.
@hallegibson4644
@hallegibson4644 6 жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh, going into this much analysis, calculating systems and inserting new wording to ideas to prove a point! You must be a Ravenclaw! 😂 that’s a good thing though!
@gregputnam7243
@gregputnam7243 7 жыл бұрын
I have been distracted by the uses, beliefs, colors, and just everything related auras. I have been researching everything and trying to prepare myself for a D&D campaign where I plan to play an Elf named Cassandra Everclear who is a White Witch (but my party just knows me as a healer) who can manipulate her own aura. Whenever I create a character, I always try create something the is Offensive and Defensive. Defensive is mainly the healing and buffing of my fellow heroes but offensive is the aura manipulation. Like I said, still doing research but I am excited
@aspiring.creative.person6092
@aspiring.creative.person6092 3 жыл бұрын
Something I think is in common with Griffendor and Hufflepuff is found family. Both houses are described as being loyal to those close to them, so I feel like that has something to do with it.
@MrKrapula83
@MrKrapula83 7 жыл бұрын
Never change
@alexanderlundberg5644
@alexanderlundberg5644 7 жыл бұрын
I tried the quiz on Pottermore, and it placed me in Slytherin. This does not seem exactly right, mostly because I really am not ambitious, though some other traits like cunning fit better. Also, most traits related to Ravenclaw work for me not only in that they fit my personality, but I also value them highly. So I suppose I should be in Ravenclaw. On the other hand, multiple Hufflepuff traits fit. At least I know I'm not Gryffindor, that's easy. I think I'm going to claim I'm Ravenclaw until someone points out a reason why I should be another one. What all this means is that I agree on the quizzes not being a great way for sorting into houses. The ending was funny. At least you know more about Attack on Titan than I do. I've only heard a violin cover of the theme song. It's a really nice cover at least.
@MonarchsFactory
@MonarchsFactory 7 жыл бұрын
I think that's fair enough - I claimed Ravenclaw until my sister pointed out why I was a Gryffindor and it was suddenly so obvious that I'd been a Gryffindor all along. If no one's given you an 'aha!' moment for switching houses then you'll never be able to fully accept it anyway; best to just stick with what you reckon.
@alexanderlundberg5644
@alexanderlundberg5644 7 жыл бұрын
That's basically what I was thinking. Though now I am interested in what your sister pointed out that made you realise that you are a Gryffindor.
@aaronorear
@aaronorear 2 жыл бұрын
The other reason there's no actually accurate way to tell what Hogwart's house you'd be in, is that none of it really exists. Maybe that's what we need to recognize a little bit more as a society.
@Wirstead
@Wirstead 5 жыл бұрын
This, literally this, all of it, yes
@liudmylabaranova1232
@liudmylabaranova1232 5 жыл бұрын
This level of passion and involvement in your geeky interests is the most attractive trait a human can ever have, imo. It always grates on me when people blindly trust Pottermore sorting because it was created by JKR and therefore "official", even though the questions themselves hardly reflect one's personality. Seriously, how does choosing between white and black, heads and tails, dusk and dawn etc. etc. define a person? Lmao Sidenote, the theory your teacher devised sounds really interesting, is there any way to look into it online?
@TheMimiSard
@TheMimiSard 7 жыл бұрын
Insane - how about eccentric? As for my TED, it's Nightlands again, where I have been giving a lot of thought to Veríotornassë ("Bold Brotherhood" - basically Avvar barbarian expies) history and porting over the backstory of Andraste from Firestar-verse (which is a Dragon Age/Silmarillion crossover), and also of magical mecha dragons, which was inspired by me going to see the new Power Rangers movie.
@johnathanmartin1504
@johnathanmartin1504 11 ай бұрын
I've taken the quiz multiple times, and I nearly always am Ravenclaw, although I have been Gryffindor twice and Hufflepuff and Slytherin once. Everyone is a spectrum, not just one thing. There is usually a part of you that sticks out a bit more though. With the Ilvermorny quiz I am usually Thunderbird. I often take this to mean that I am very adventurous, but love knowledge more than adventure. A lot of these quizzes including the Pottermore one are based on the Myers-Briggs Test, which is an actual Psychological test. When I take that I am nearly always INTP, which would put me in Ravenclaw. I love adventure though and am not afraid of much, which would put me into Gryffindor. I am also very ambitious which would put me into Slytherin. I don't know where the Hufflepuff bit comes from, although I do like to study plants and love my family.
@KaiserSpherical
@KaiserSpherical 7 жыл бұрын
I've been TED by automation and it's consequences. Through the design and implementation of intelligent software, I've given myself the freedom to explore various other possibilities at work previously outside of my reach because there just aren't enough hours in the day. So I've been trying to propose similar computer systems to be deployed in other offices, thinking they would be excited about achieving a similar level of efficiency. Turns out, people are quite resistant to the idea of "being replaced" with a computer. So I've just been mauling over and over again, putting myself into the shoes of individuals who might feel threatened by the idea of a computer being intelligently designed to, well. Do their job. Perhaps only parts of some of their responsibilities or from start to finish. It's been interesting, but also personally discouraging, as I had lots of high hopes for what this could eventually lead to in the future.
@SailorYen89
@SailorYen89 7 жыл бұрын
Crazy Dael is my favorite Dael. Although I'm pretty sure the point of this was to say there is no test that can definitively say you are [insert house here], if you WERE to come up with a test based on all this theorising and found a method of doing it that you felt more comfortable with, please please share it with us. I've taken multiple tests all saying different things, it'd be nice to do one that came from an entirely different perspective and method.
@MonarchsFactory
@MonarchsFactory 7 жыл бұрын
Aye, aye! If I ever manage to put something cohesive together I'll make sure to let you all know. :)
@jhonMV713
@jhonMV713 7 жыл бұрын
So.... are we gonna get more of this sorting house stuff because I'm pretty down with flushing out the different houses in a more in-depth way than just: Gryffindor - protagonist, Ravenclaw - smart weirdo, Hufflpuff - redshirt death fodder and Slytherin: a-hole villain. Also saw the wings of freedom on your shirt, love that didn't you also watched anime.
@camerot3963
@camerot3963 6 жыл бұрын
Can you post this notebook of ideas somewhere this is definitely the best way of house sorting
@Bloom-z8n
@Bloom-z8n 3 жыл бұрын
Finally someone who gets it.
@Br1330
@Br1330 5 жыл бұрын
Not sure if you've Sorted this out for yourself yet, but I the biggest problem is not eh descriptions of the houses but the fact that they are not based on personality. Herminie was not more Brave than Smart, or Nevel or Peter more brave than anything, The sorting hat does not analyze your personality it determines what you value. That's why it says it was not wrong with Peter, he was never brave, but he wished he could have been and thought being around power would make him brave. Hogwarts as a school would be dedicated to helping people develop into the witches and wizards they want to be. The Hat thought Harry wanted to be strong, so he told him Slytherin would make him Great and Powerful, but he rejected it. He basically tells that hat he doesn't want to be strong as in fighting, but strong in the face of adversity, Courageous. The Hat puts you in a house that has the traits you value because the Founders Believed that being around people with the traits you admire is a good way to acquire those traits. People change people. However being around people you think and act like you, is very toxic to development. Gryffindor is for the people the feeling and needs to stand up and be strong, people who feel like they have something to do or prove. People that feel attacked or outcasted and have had to defend themselves would fit in well in this house. Slytherin is for ambition, people who want to do and achieve things. This is less standing up and proving yourself ageinst odd, and more or living up to and exceeding expectations. They're both competitive and goal oriented. But Slytherin is trying to accomplish thing, Gryffindor is overcoming the thing. The difference between I've Killed hundreds of dragons because i'm the best hunter and I've servived or saved people from hundreds of dragons Ravenclaw is for wit and knowledge, they strive for knowledge and understanding. Luna despite seeming so crazy is really just trying to understand the world around her, unexplained events need explanations because she wants to know and understand things. Hufflepuff really is for just being kind and loyal, people who want to be nice and well liked
@sheetedkid
@sheetedkid 7 жыл бұрын
It looked like Dael was pulling a Nightcrawler between 2:51 and 2:59, the way she'd pop out of view and then reappear from a different direction.
@MonarchsFactory
@MonarchsFactory 7 жыл бұрын
Haha! You're so right!
@jo.k.4210
@jo.k.4210 3 жыл бұрын
You cant leave us without the MBTI connection!!
@ms.verepaine6914
@ms.verepaine6914 7 жыл бұрын
When your have your assessment test finalized are you going to publish it?
@buerger3
@buerger3 7 жыл бұрын
May the focus be with you :)
@m0rdumm
@m0rdumm 3 жыл бұрын
can you please make this!? its such I cool idea and I can't figure out my house all I know is its not gryffindor...
@impishDullahan
@impishDullahan 7 жыл бұрын
What's most interesting to me is that this isn't too terribly different to how I approch different languages when I develop my con-langs. I always try and find what's the same at the core of languages from vastly different families and use that as a base for a con-lang and then I can spring dialects from that with the major cultural variations between the language families. Also, this level of "insanity" and dedication basically describes every other month for me. I'll dedicate my self to this one project for a few weeks, become really proficient in the associated "skills". Then I'll just up and leave after a few weeks but we can ignore that. I try too.
@MonarchsFactory
@MonarchsFactory 7 жыл бұрын
Ahaha, you basically just described me! (Minus the languages stuff, I'm rubbish at languages)
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