They look eerily similar to Sea Kings. Add to that the fact that they all seem to be ancient beings and can communicate telepathically, I am starting to think that the world of One Piece looked quite different 800 years ago.
@hedroxladimon3213 ай бұрын
Oooh or how shirahoahi can control the sea kings. Imu controls demons
@dyospadefkiillahi14113 ай бұрын
@@hedroxladimon321and Momo command Zunesha
@Ben-iz9ud3 ай бұрын
They are tiny compared to the sea kings still. Jupiter definitely looks like one with that fruit lol
@TheFrozeable3 ай бұрын
I think thats due Oda's drawing style
@nathanlevesque78123 ай бұрын
I'm not seeing the similarity tbh
@Farisss113 ай бұрын
this gorosei double page spread still give me chills probably will be remembered as one of iconic double page spread in one piece forever
@erinwalker_tv3 ай бұрын
It gave me a call back to the sabo panel
@ivanbluecool3 ай бұрын
Gorosei all on business and demon time. They saw enough shounen stories to rush in
@TheWarmachine3753 ай бұрын
"They will lose to the power of friendship!" - Fairy Tail probably
@besnik42783 ай бұрын
It would suggest that they beat Nika before so in a way friendship was something they've beaten before so they got credit to cash.
@laquanlucas69533 ай бұрын
They on that 5 God hand time prefect tribute to Miura the last chapter had berserk vibe.
@babywidge3 ай бұрын
*standing on business
@stopmotionmangemantproduct11113 ай бұрын
They dn crashed out this arc 😂😂😂😂
@drvinylscratch19363 ай бұрын
I like how the Zoro situation resolved. Zoro hears Sanji shit on him and he just one shots Lucci as if he was enjoying combat until he got insulted
@MugenHeadNinja3 ай бұрын
I get the feeling he's still getting a grip on using Conqueror's Coating at will, so he's only been able to do it during “clutch” moments. (His last attack vs. Kaido, last attack vs. King, and this last attack vs. Lucci)
@GeorgeMartinus3 ай бұрын
About that, do u see a panel before Zoro hits Lucci? It's a small panel showing Zoro's silhouette stands up in silent and there's a "whoosh" zoom-in effect that something fast toward him with a sound effect of running. After Zoro hit Lucci, Jinbei sees them and a bit startled. Do u think Ethanbaron runs toward him after slashed Pacifista? Let's see next week.
@yudhapermana68313 ай бұрын
@@GeorgeMartinusno, that's lucci running towards zoro with madara shigan.
@GeorgeMartinus3 ай бұрын
@@yudhapermana6831 Oke, I see.
@nzrlsyzwn3 ай бұрын
hear sanji ? man.. you must be new... that's obviously bakotsu coming for him..
@mathewdavies8743 ай бұрын
I personally believe all of the elders are ancient weapons - that all the planets are ancient weapons - who have been given humanoid forms. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the only ancient weapon we have found is a living being. 8 Ancient weapons/deities/Yokai whatever they all actually are, it seems as through 5 of them are loyal to Imu’s cause and 3 are rebelling. Ever so slightly similar to the everlasting war of the void century
@drvinylscratch19363 ай бұрын
It would also make sense with one being under wano. Could mean under as in a buried person. Maybe Momo or Yamato can awaken it or inherit it. A weapon that is currently just returned to the earth under wano waiting for the right citizen of wano to awaken it and inherit the power. After all Shirahoshi was born with it, maybe the spirit of the weapon chose to bestow its power to her.
@elviswilliams11313 ай бұрын
Hmm that's a interesting idea unfortunately it doesn't work because of pluton which is a ship and not a living being
@ZeroUm_3 ай бұрын
The planets up to Saturn were discovered in pre-historic times, and the other 3 only since the 19th century. That's why the 5 elder planets are treated differently.
@kilderok3 ай бұрын
@@elviswilliams1131We've seen a living ship before
@elviswilliams11313 ай бұрын
@@kilderok Have we? I don't recall one
@samfisher66063 ай бұрын
I love the irony that Venus, the one Gorosei who looks like he's from east Asia, transforms into the only western creature.
@mardshima20702 ай бұрын
I thought he was based after Gandhi
@robinthestate65482 ай бұрын
@@mardshima2070India is in Asia.
@mardshima20702 ай бұрын
@@robinthestate6548 The person said "east Asia"
@robinthestate65482 ай бұрын
@mardshima2070 oh I missed that my bad.
@bilalchiiino34233 ай бұрын
funny how saturn calls humans insects while he is a spider and his number one teammember is a worm lol
@jaimegutier2733 ай бұрын
The elders may not be men at all... What if their monsters forms are their real forms? I am intrigued.
@allrad49113 ай бұрын
Uhm....technically neither spiders nor (earth)worms are insects 🤓
@ethanhanley92703 ай бұрын
@jaimegutier273 do you think maybe that could be the reason human-human model fruits exist? Maybe all the goresei have human-human models 🤣
@JRM92B2 ай бұрын
To be fair, neither spiders nor worms are insects to begin with.
@codydoxey24973 ай бұрын
Finally someone mentions the Mongolian sand worm
@YojTROCHILdae3 ай бұрын
Exactly what i was going to say
@cronggpal3 ай бұрын
Dandadan has an awesome arc based around it
@AyeAyeRhon3 ай бұрын
You mean THE ALASKAN BULLWORM
@diemarihalt94903 ай бұрын
@@AyeAyeRhon you mean Patricks Belly Button?
@jdbewls52373 ай бұрын
"iT's fRoM dUNe" Artur once again showing why he's the GOAT One Piece YT'er
@bryce44433 ай бұрын
1:29 I thought my headphones went out lmao
@solumartifex11383 ай бұрын
I'm drunk so I thought I was going insane for a Moment
@jamesfishmusic3 ай бұрын
ay I'm drink too@@solumartifex1138
@026573 ай бұрын
It’s lazy editing. Shameful.
@bryce44433 ай бұрын
@@02657 blud thinks he’s ign
@famerhacker3 ай бұрын
HAHAHAH relax buddy. calling that shameful is crazy. he made a mistake your just being a dick about it@@02657
@wolvesgotnext57773 ай бұрын
Itsumade is killed by being shot out the air by an Archer. Usopp vs Mars confirmed
@tawj19183 ай бұрын
or one of the giants. they literally was introduced into the chapter shooting arrows destroying battleships
@High-LordHarza3 ай бұрын
Fengxi is also shot by a sharpshooter in its myth from what I hear.
@hariswasti38163 ай бұрын
@@tawj1918so some random giant kills one of the gorosei. Are you alright?
@memebrain21773 ай бұрын
Wings of the straw hat vs the wings of the gorosei
@DarkflameEmperor3 ай бұрын
@@tawj1918Would be interesting to see these five setup final villains for SH matchups be defeated by a random unnamed giant. :)
@greatestcait3 ай бұрын
Ever since St. Saturn showed up on Egghead in his hybrid form, I've been waiting to see him (or now any of the Gorosei) get dunked in water and swimming back to shore.
@jorenzblaquera85273 ай бұрын
The more we know about the Gorosei, the more I am amazed how Sabo survived their attack.
@MarcyTheKindaCoolWizard3 ай бұрын
They probably had to contain themsleves a lot as not to break anything
@ruben27463 ай бұрын
13:29 'Molduga Battle Theme' is so fitting here. As a Zelda fan myself, you put a smile on my face. And the Feng Xi/Houki appearance also reminds me of Ganon. May be just a coincidence, but funny anyways.
@Lostangel10003 ай бұрын
and the fact its the Money guy who makes sure not to destroy them but stop them intact makes a LOT of sense if we take the fact they are suppose to cost as much as a battle ship each Pacifista
@ElektechN9ne3 ай бұрын
Regarding Jupiter: I think (earth)worms don't die if you just cut them, unless you hit a specific spot, otherwise one part of the worm just lives on. They also can split themselves up on their own (e.g. when a bird tries to eat them) to live on. Oda could give this attributes to Jupiter as well, even if it's a little bit redundant considering all of the Five Elders have insane regeneration powers, but this techniques could be become handy in battle.
@xDoubleTapz3 ай бұрын
Artur always providing us with quality videos 💯
@AfroZander53603 ай бұрын
Always hyped to see these vids in my feed
@ButteryAftertaste3 ай бұрын
Minor detail, but I think it's weird that Saturn has not yet shown a full demon form. There's no way that his full demon form has him with a full Santa Claus beard and a face that looks sort of human. The other Gorosei look completely animalistic in their demon forms with zero trace of humanity.
@balzora13 ай бұрын
Hmm I think this form is his full form. His hybrid was like a spider centaur, he still had human arms and completely normal head. * And the gyuki has a human like demonic face anyway
@DAVIDBROWNTHE3RD3 ай бұрын
@@balzora1 Yeah but he somehow still has his hat and beard.
@appydurp3 ай бұрын
@@DAVIDBROWNTHE3RD Because the Ushi-Oni does have a straight up human face unlike the rest of them. The closest would be the bird one, but that yokai has a face *resembling* a human face. What we're currently seeing is indeed Saturn's beast form imo
@ButteryAftertaste3 ай бұрын
@@appydurp Everything I have seen depicts it as having a bull or cow's head. Perhaps there are variations, but it still strikes me as a very strange thing.
@darknesswave1003 ай бұрын
@Happyderp-ce7lf Ushi Oni are always depicted as having some type of bovine head not human. Either an ox or something similar
@convoluted_turtle3 ай бұрын
I recently subscribed. Quality of content is amazing!
@Fenrisaiyan3 ай бұрын
usopp vs mars is my new prediction. A guy shoots down the depression monster in myth. so in one piece that has to end up being usopp. Like how us could stand up against the ghost ghost power
@wolfofsummerbreeze3 ай бұрын
Zorro or Brook vs the sword guy. And maybe Sanji vs the fire boar.
@angelafrogman77003 ай бұрын
The gorosei also seem to be massive even by One Piece scale, Nusjuro is taller than a 22 foot pacifista and Ju Peter dwarfs even the giants. They seemed big when Sabo first encountered them and their forms were silhouetted, but not this big. Maybe they can change sizes somehow?
@permadidluve3 ай бұрын
your breakdown, never cease to amaze me
@dyenobot3 ай бұрын
Love your work keep slaying it !🎉😂
@KingKraid3 ай бұрын
When I saw Venus' hybrid form I had to think off the scottish Nuckleavee, a demonic, skinless horse + rider chimera that arrived from the sea and brought drought, plague, hunger and death with it. Though the Nuckleavee is usually pictured as having some muscle tissue left
@shreyam10083 ай бұрын
Still the best chapter breakdown person out there. Not talking a dig at anyone else, but they have 30min + videos with unfounded speculations after speculations. Like the artur's speculation are mostly one piece universe based or oda's theme and writing based.
@shadowjfd3 ай бұрын
You should check out Dusk & Dawn. It’s a native japanese explaining every single detail of recent chapters. Amazing theories as well
@shreyam10083 ай бұрын
Elglish speaking right. Thanks for the suggestions. @@shadowjfd
@shadowjfd3 ай бұрын
@@shreyam1008 he uses a translator, but it sounds very coherent
@justingamingm92222 ай бұрын
Arthur is always cooking glad to see you back
@Lostangel10003 ай бұрын
As for not giving the DF names if they are DFs; it could be he is waiting to give the names when he gives us Imu's DF name as they are all going to be the same kind of model of fruit and wanting to keep that as a surprise. Like the fruit could be the Devil-Devil fruit or Demon-Demon fruit or something that gives them mythical monsters.
@lancecravens73563 ай бұрын
so glad you mentioned the Mongolian death worm everyone on the internet seems to think it's just a reference to Dune for some reason when all the others are based off of creatures from mythology and legend
@lumomagus3 ай бұрын
With the technology of the past, Devil Fruit users could have just been people who had their lineage factors edited to give them powers of their choosing- and during the void century they were killed by a flood and died in the water- so the water of the world carries with it the genetic factors of the augmented power users who were swallowed by the sea. Water which then makes it's way to trees, the augmented genetic bloodline elements of the users then carries forth into fruit bearing plants transmitting the powers to be passed forward to whoever ate them. Considering the Gorosei may be immortal beings they will not have died since the void century, retaining their original powers and therefore not actually be devil fruit users, but a glimpse into what was a precursor to Devil Fruits.
@danjiroxd37303 ай бұрын
"who would knew hell is at the top of the world" Cold
@BinaryDood3 ай бұрын
Its heaven in reverse
@ifantsaurells30143 ай бұрын
Dorry n Brogy Named Attack Taiyou NoKo also means as Child Of The Sun Reffers To Luffy Or NIKA.. In The Film Misterious Cities Of Gold, Esteban Also called as Child Of The Sun.... INKA / NIKA ....
@sonnyd97033 ай бұрын
that panel of horse dude slashing is hard af
@TamirNahor3 ай бұрын
Noticed the choke at 1:30 and I guess it was an edit miss. It's inspiring to know everyone miss sometime and I appreciate your hard work!
@HonzyandFriends3 ай бұрын
Excellent work here with your very informative breakdown. However, I MUST give a shoutout to the fantastic editing choice to use the Kingdom Hearts music for the video, it fits very very well. 👌
@ctswag42043 ай бұрын
I very much appreciate the Kingdom Hearts music in the background!
@doodledodo8493 ай бұрын
Omg finally an artur video on this, I've been waiting for a whiiiile to hear from you on these revelations you have no idea. Thank you Artur ❤❤
@matejlaskomulej3 ай бұрын
Awesome vid. And damn, I look so carefully and I still failed to see the numbers, until you said which is which. I'm blind.
@TheOne111113 ай бұрын
Waiting for your next upload 🥶🥶🥶
@toufuguy4563 ай бұрын
5:11 St. Jaygarcia Saturn is indeed based.
@Nedoiko3 ай бұрын
A small theory regarding the names of their fruit, one potential idea could be that their devil fruits are tremendously old, old enough that they precede the current devil fruit nomenclature. The gorosei already controls the names of other devil fruit
@animorphs1283 ай бұрын
Audio error at 1:30 It doesnt bother me but i thought i should mention it incase it bothers you
@quinnimon3 ай бұрын
Think the Sea Kings could defeat the Gorosei if the battle went to the water, so we'll have to see how well Luffy, Dory, and Brogy fare holding off these heavyweights. Dory and Brogy are about a (half) as old as FallBeard and Mountain Beard were when they passed, so they should still be in prime enough shape to fight. Edit: changed "quarter" to "half".
@Snakestube3 ай бұрын
I like this
@adolcristin35263 ай бұрын
It can probably they are the devil itself and not bind in fruit in once in their life and not affected with sea water.
@DanksSativa3 ай бұрын
The falling stars are the fallen angels like from the book of Enoch, the fallen angels are always represented as fallen stars. They were part of the army that Satan lead when he rebelled against God. The Gorosei seem inspired by the Archons of the Demiurge Yaldabaoth which Imu will mirror. The Archon's power comes from the Demiurge so the Gorosei powers likely come from Imu. I would be very surprised if Oda isn't weaving the Gnosis into his story like Tolkien did his, all the signs are there.
@goco46973 ай бұрын
the 4th form you mention is just artistic expression of the silhouettes. A way to convey they are ominous figures and not just being shrouded in the fog of the story.
@ryangentry20033 ай бұрын
A little relevant dnd lore:Devils and Demons are different. Devils are lawful and like contracts where Demons are chaotic and like destruction. I don’t know if it will ever come into play, but it’s interesting if you think of the devil fruits as contracts, where you gain a list of powers but lose the ability to swim.
@Mooglatan3 ай бұрын
Yep I'm sure Oda is really making that distinction in his mind.
@xeykdeyk3 ай бұрын
Thats not D&D lore. Thats Orthodox Christianity lore. Which was taken from Zoroastrian mythology.
@ryangentry20033 ай бұрын
@@xeykdeyk my bad. I left off the important to D&D part. That the two factions are actively at war with each other. Making the “devil fruits are the enemies of Mother Nature aka Umi or in OP Imu” even more relevant.
@axelalex20803 ай бұрын
Love the Kingdom Hearts music in the background 😄
@christopherlake96673 ай бұрын
I have been saying this quite awhile that five elder are actual demon but not devil fruit user.
@laquanlucas69533 ай бұрын
More like like a apostle
@christopherlake96673 ай бұрын
@@laquanlucas6953 yeah you could say it like that
@gothgrrl87113 ай бұрын
everyone has been saying this
@GeorgeMartinus3 ай бұрын
They all have been playing/pretending as God since 800 years ago. They're the faIse prophets. "Im" is a phrase from "lmperiaIism" "Dragon" is China. He's from East Blue and his ideoIogy brings threat to the hegemony of WorId Govt. He spreads his "common prosperity" ideology across the world with the help of his Rev Army.
@Jonahhi3 ай бұрын
Nah. Purely fanfiction.
@5001Fergies3 ай бұрын
The way the gorosei just immediately vanished from marijoie and landed on egghead in a beam of black lightning was so cold
@afeathereddinosaur3 ай бұрын
If Usopp shoots a plant that sucks nutrients out of someone like Greenbull at a Gorousei, who would prevail? The plant with seemingly infinite resources or the infinitely regenerating Gorousei?
@petermolina13173 ай бұрын
Interesting.
@HeraclesN-fp1bw3 ай бұрын
The Gorosei’s transformations are amazing which out of these 5 here is my favorites is Peter’s Sand Wyrm & as for Nusjuro which I thought he was like the Nuckelavee when i first read the chapter
@THEOUTSIDERSPORTS3 ай бұрын
It’s hilarious listening to content creators constantly say it wouldn’t “make sense for ODA to do ”… the ODA 💩 on their theories every time I’ll be looking forward to this on as well!!!
@christopherlake96673 ай бұрын
Lol facts Some people say it wouldn't make sense if five elders are actually devils than being devil fruits user.
@MartinGasparini863 ай бұрын
thanks Arthur we need this I have no idea what going on
@theemperorprotectsloyalist93073 ай бұрын
If Devil Fruits are restricted forms of devil powers, maybe the Gorosei can't be classified as Zoan. Perhaps the Devil Fruit types are themselves a form of restriction. The Gorosei transform like Zoans, regenerate like Logias and have miscellaneous powers like Paramecias.
@stayfaded693 ай бұрын
This could also give more meaning to the fact the nika fruit was avoiding them. Maybe they r the first devil fruits? Something along those lines with Nika and a few others .
@Detoxpain3 ай бұрын
I love Oda, his english writing is the word of god and he can do whatever he likes with his story but "Starfall" and "The five elder stars" is badass and it's the translation that will live in my heart
@octillerynite75263 ай бұрын
Been waiting to see what you think about this, Artur!
@SpongetteWilliams3 ай бұрын
remember when zoro said to the mihawk seraphim something like “your more human than the real thing” i bet he says something similar to the horseman of death while thinking of whatever that grim reaper was at the end of wano.
@NasinasTV3 ай бұрын
Bro called the bible "european myth"
@Jenkies7573 ай бұрын
Is it not? King James version 🤷
@High-LordHarza3 ай бұрын
The sandworm's name is the only one written in katakana as sandworm, so it is clearly the one from Dune, since the mythical ones aren't called Sand worms, the Dune one is, like how the skeletal horse is named after the skeleton horse yokai. All mythical zoans combine multiple similar mythical creatures though, so I am fully expecting poison for Ju Peter and wilder death powers for V. Nusjuro, and who knows what for Fengxi.
@4Nesca3 ай бұрын
If the elders are Imu's satellites why did they kneel on his presence? He kneeled on himself? It would be a bit weird..
@MugenHeadNinja3 ай бұрын
It's obvious the satellites act/function as their own individual's to some extent.
@suicuner88213 ай бұрын
I think it’s crazy how all the Gorosei have abilities that relate to their roles in the world. Venus is the head of finance and he’s literally the horse of death symbolizing the expression “death and taxes”. Mars is based off a bird that flies over places of war to feed on the souls of the dead and he’s the head of the armed forces. Jupiter was mentioned in this video but he’s a giant sandstorm that destroys the soil and he is the head of agriculture. And lastly Mercury is the head of justice and he is based of a demonic boat that goes around burning down villages he deems necessary.
@thecrimsonwrathWhoTookIt2 ай бұрын
Can't find the comment but someone in here mentioned that the blade that Ghandi is wielding was referenced all the way back at Longuetown, but not only that, when the shopseller was talking about what happens to people who wield Kitetsu swords, there was a green worm.
@VINSMOKEProductions3 ай бұрын
Another great Artur video!! The Gorosei are here and things are getting even wilder!
@100BoyEgg3 ай бұрын
The last thing blew my mind. It’d take forever to explain all my thoughts but the shorthand is that the peoples of OP dream to be liberated and however we got here we can presume Luffy’s dream results in that making him the perfect ‘vessel of Nika’ so to speak. Wouldn’t a nightmare be the perfect antithesis and thematically align with the ‘dawn’ of a new world? An ended nightmare and waking to a new day that is like a dream? Wouldn’t it be perfectly Oda to ironically have a ‘dream’ yokai whose powers manifest nightmares (Gorosei, named but not ‘DF titled’) and whose function and purpose has been the malaise of a waking nightmare? Imu won’t be a demon, may be an immortal (re immortal surgery, which could lend to the following), but Imu is probably someone who ate the mythical zoan aku aku no mi model yume no serei; which will be accompanied by an analogous ancient title resembling ‘warrior of liberation, Nika’. That being said I have a hard time imagining a direct confrontation of an elderly ‘non-combatant’ (a summoner type is what I’m thinking) vs Luffy so I’d presume BB does some shenanigans, possibly even ending up with the fruit and ‘mantle’ of Imu, and that being the final fight.
@SilentQuestion103 ай бұрын
What is the difference between white smoke (luffy, yamato) and black smoke (gorosei and lucci) when they awaken form.
@quick_quip3 ай бұрын
there is a theory that these clouds show the purity of the fruit's user's soul. Luffy and Yamato are naturally good, their intentions are pure, that's why they have a white cloud around them. However, the Gorosei have many terrifying things on their conscience, so their clouds are black. Rob Lucci also has black because he always wants bloodshed. But that's just a theory.
@SilentQuestion102 ай бұрын
@@quick_quip Thank you. But i have another question. When SHAKA saw ROB LUCCI awakened form and his SPEED, he said "Most of the time, when a zoan type fruit awakens, it robs the user of their personality" It's related to something? If black smoke= robs your personality and white smoke = doesn't rob your personality. Because we saw yamato and luffy even though they were awakened form, their personality is the same. What are your thoughts about that 😅?
@Adl1b_3 ай бұрын
The video I've been waiting for , the chef himself
@poljanroldan43903 ай бұрын
I hope you make video on number 56
@ibrahimsannoh83843 ай бұрын
I watch other OP KZbinrs as a place holder until Artur posts.
@ariefputraart3 ай бұрын
What if Nika is the first clone of Imu. Like how Piccollo releases his demon side to become a god, Imu releases his/her liberty to become a ruler. That is why Jupiter seems like the youngest because he replaced Nika as #1 and why Nika is the Sun, as in the first one.
@llVIU3 ай бұрын
I think their immortality is due to op op fruit, they were granted "immortality" by someone who sacrificed themselves
@TakumiKhashi3 ай бұрын
i think ope ope fruit only gives u immortality for old age
@mariothane87542 ай бұрын
My personal theory is that at some point, we will see a series of overlaps between the ancient weapons and the gorosei. There’s a strong argument to be made for why we haven’t actually seen any of these weapons and why they follow the same naming trends as the elders. Maybe it’s that these awakened powers that the elders have are some of those weapons that Imu held on to.
@qrowthebird74963 ай бұрын
Was fully focused on the Kingdom Hearts music that was playing through out the video
@KarlBichler3 ай бұрын
Peak Fiction ❤
@michaelestival98753 ай бұрын
The Fengxi is also said to bring rain, which fits with Mercury being the "water planet" in Japanese.
@mitchwhalen23203 ай бұрын
I see you with the kingdom hearts 2 music 👀. 🐐
@user-bb4wj7lq3t3 ай бұрын
I think Imu’s ability allows him to activate or use the Wills/forces/souls inside of devil fruits. Similar to how a fruit from someone dead can be reborn elsewhere and teleports. The Gorosei being extracted Devils Allowing them to be summoned and travel long distances. Imagine Imu extracting the devil from the Nika fruit if it hadn’t avoided them for hundreds of years.
@Gabrielf10993 ай бұрын
Nasujuro probably using the “cut nothing” technique here.
@baeee.123 ай бұрын
I love ddtank soundtrack in the background
@otarthemad17823 ай бұрын
10:58, also known in some circles as Binky.
@angelotirado35423 ай бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't mention this, but by this train of thought, imu is even more likely to be the sea devil. The sea turns against people that dare mimic its demonic power
@skndr30673 ай бұрын
It's either that they are the actual mythical beings that were never transformed into Devil Fruits and they sided with or were enslaved by Imu, or, they are creations of a dream/nightmare ability linked to Imu
@ssstudios52413 ай бұрын
So been rewatching from episode 1 to current. well, I'm at ep 307 and Usopp said something that I am kind of curious about. Do you think it might be possible that they might be a cat or sea-cat that lived to be 100+ years old and their tail spit to become a goblin? There is a yokai called the Bakeneko that really fits this well. Some of this yokai's abilities are that it can shapeshift and possess/manipulate the dead. We know Alabasta has such a reverence for sea-cats they hold religious significance, and strictly forbids them from being harmed. Notably, the Tomb of the Kings contains multiple statues carved in their likeness? Egypt also had a huge reverence for cats as well it being the real inspiration for Alabasta. It's been confirmed that it happens with mermaids at the age of 30 or so, so if in the event this is true could this happen with the seacats or other species? If this cat took the form of Nerona Imu to supplant and take over. There is an old tale similar to this as well, The tale of Takasu Genbei. None would be the wiser but for those that do notice the change they could have been dispatched and manipulated to keep suspicions off them.
@Lykon3 ай бұрын
Gorosei being real devils tied to the origin of devil fruits makes a lot of sense. They're also enhanced by something similar to awakened Ope Ope immortality.
@cashisclay84743 ай бұрын
It's good to know the 5 stars form, but I want to know what Imu form is because he was bigger than all of the elder planets.💯😅
@myu2k23 ай бұрын
the lunarians look like angels and were thrown out of "heaven" by these devils.
@brandonmulryan15223 ай бұрын
Since normal fruits can have the black smoke scarf might indicate their lineage to the devils but since the Nika fruit has a white smoke cloud would indicate that some of the fruits have a connection to gods, angels and the like when they are awakened.
@kiaa12293 ай бұрын
i really love the theory about gorosei aren't devil fruit user, but an actual devil with demonic powers.. it might has highest chances to be a fact.. but it raised another question, how luffy can defeat them? 😂 luffy dead against kaido, which at this point are nothing compared to gorosei.. so, what exactly luffy have to take to just get more power to defeat the gorosei or IMU itself...
@kaijuge69343 ай бұрын
He died BEFORE 5th Gear. It only took one big attack from Kaido to kill him, but in 5th Gear, he took Kaido's 1000% Ragnarok club attack, and it didn't seem to hurt much. Since he stretched around one of Kaido's attacks while in 5th Gear, I think 5th Gear can partially resist Haki (especially since Kaido was immune to teleportation because of Haki, but then got cartoonified and stretched by 5th Gear attacks). So Luffy definitely has a shot-the big question is how the regeneration can be beaten.
@toeimoviefan29782 ай бұрын
Toei says that one awakened Showa Toei Doga character fighting against Toyohisa and his army of powerful versions of Yokai Kaijin Henchmen.
@DraceEmpressa3 ай бұрын
ohh, no wonder oda said "final battle would make Marineford looks cute" . It will be full blown kaiju fight between gorosei +imu vs sea kings + zunesha. called it, marineford parallel is mariejois.
@trentbuskirk49903 ай бұрын
Ahhhh kingdom hearts music in the video lets goooo
@armoghanasif35833 ай бұрын
There are stages of devil fruits after awakening. Like summoning and may be another form that awakens the actual devil in the fruit. That they have accomplished. And soon Luffy is going to as well.
@rileypugh64123 ай бұрын
Also in the Gorosei’s introduction you can see the wall is adorned with octagrams. I know they aren’t pentagrams, but seems worth noting.
@cavejohnson90713 ай бұрын
Ooooh, maybe that's a reference to the eight planets?
@PipPanoma3 ай бұрын
I interpreted the title as the downfall of the five elders. Not something arriving with great impact, but the final struggles of a defeated opponent.
@lumomagus3 ай бұрын
the monster hunter music is so fitting - sounds like a One Piece OST itself haha
@deddyseptiyanto68593 ай бұрын
Dune part 2 & One piece chapter 1110 was released in the first quarter year of 2024. Both have sand worm. Hmmm.. what an interesting coincidence...
@SALT-cp4eu3 ай бұрын
After the last chapter the story of Izanagi and Origin if Yokai feels a lot like Imu and devil fruits even from Vegapunk’s description: “The story of Izanagi and the origin of yokai comes from the oldest known work of Japanese literature and the basis of Japanese mythology, the 8th century Kojiki (古事記; Record of Ancient Matters). In Japan’s creation myth, the land itself-the rocks, trees, mountains, and rivers-are infused with latent magical energy. This energy needs only a focus to give it life. Just as nebulous gas ignites to form stars, this energy is compressed by events like volcanoes or earthquakes, or strong human emotions like fear or hatred, until it emerges as one of Japan’s menagerie of monsters and phenomena. Yokai take many shapes, and are as varied and complicated as human imagination can make them.”
@TheFrozeable3 ай бұрын
MAYBE, they've been so long using their DF that they dont exist as humans anymore. Thats why they follow every awaken DF user rule but are not presented as so. Even if they are real demons, I dont understand why they can show as humans and as hybrid forms (seen in nasujuro and saturn). If they only were demons that have this specific ability (to shape as humans) it would still have a catch, but the sandworm for example has only its "beast" form.
@kaijuge69343 ай бұрын
It might be that the fruits took control of humans-Zoans can do that.
@tacoknight50273 ай бұрын
Let’s not forget that it’s pretty much confirmed now that it was Imu who attacked/killed Cobra with the pointy devil tail. Just adds to your whole “Imu is a cartoon like devil”-theory. Also fits to the notion that Imu is connected to devil fruits and thus created the Gorosei/their satellites with similar DF-like powers as literal Demons serving the Devil.
@AnyMEmdq3 ай бұрын
18:32 Then Kanjuro is the Rokurosei, because he also had the dark blob form. That's something Oda does in order for the readers not to see any recognizable trait. When they cannot be recognized, he uses simple black silhouettes with white highlights, but drawing a black skeletal horse silhouette kinda spoils the fact that V. Nusjuro is a skeletal horse, don't you think? And while the sandword (the silhouette of a giant worm would just be a dark blob), a skeletal horse, a half-spider/half-cow, a snake with wings, talons and a beak, and a boar with a fiery mane are easy enough to spot, even in silhouette form. It's been almost a year since they were shown. If everyone already knew what they were, the AMAZING double spread on this chapter would've been worth much less
@AnyMEmdq3 ай бұрын
17:15 So that we are not introduced to the family of fruits? For example. Saturn's fruit can be a Mythical Spider fruit, a Mythical Cow fruit, a Mythical Human fruit, or just a Mythical Yokai/Demon fruit. If the latter, keeping that under wraps could lead to a later reveal, like Dragon also having a Yokai fruit, for example. I'm coming up with this off the top of my head, or out of my ass, whichever you prefer. It's just to point out that there can be other reasons for Oda not to reveal the Devil Fruits complete name IF they are Devil Fruits