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Fozcast - The Ben Foster Podcast

Fozcast - The Ben Foster Podcast

8 ай бұрын

Season 9 #Ep2
In this clip, Tony Pulis gives us an insight into Serge Gnabry's struggles at West Brom, before he went on to become a star in the Bundesliga for Bayern Munich, winning five league titles and a Champions League! 🤯
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@Upthereds777
@Upthereds777 8 ай бұрын
The failure at West Brom definitely switched his mindset and he wanted to prove everyone wrong. A lot of players would of went the other way. Fair play to him.
@Upthereds777
@Upthereds777 8 ай бұрын
@@DanWe5t he would of made it at Arsenal if that was the case.
@kiandl6368
@kiandl6368 8 ай бұрын
@@Upthereds777he was quality whenever he played for Arsenal, I never understood why we sold him
@Alex-fv1um
@Alex-fv1um 8 ай бұрын
So much more to a player's performance levels than their footballing ability alone. Sometimes players and clubs just don't click for whatever reason; sometimes the player's confidence is absolutely shot in the time he's there. Location, mindset, family, relationships, friends, fitness, stability in their careers... It all has an effect. Quite evident that a reality-check and a move back home did Gnabry the world of good.
@rehanr1429
@rehanr1429 8 ай бұрын
We had Theo Walcott and Oxlade Chamberlain ahead of him. Wenger even played Ramsey at RW. He was a kid that needed game time. We couldnt give it to him
@davidjames8940
@davidjames8940 7 ай бұрын
all three players were miles better at the time.
@ILKILO1
@ILKILO1 8 ай бұрын
Would love to hear Serge Gnabry's say one day to and we could put this all to bed. Would be really interesting I think.
@trevorjonathan4405
@trevorjonathan4405 8 ай бұрын
Pulis used Gnabry as defensive training for his players to learn how to defend against tricky wingers in the PL. Notice how Pulis started by highlighting Gnabry's dress sense and how it contrasted against his own players. West Brom could have finished in their highest PL place if Pulis wasn't so threatened by what Gnabry stood for, which contrasted his style completely. Probably threatened by West Brom fans demanding luxury players to play more attractive football.
@FlatDerrick
@FlatDerrick 8 ай бұрын
He's spoken at length about it. Basically says it was a completely different world and he was expected to be a completely different personality off the field, which resulted in him reverting into himself and becoming much shyer on and off the field.
@roha1l
@roha1l 8 ай бұрын
What a turnaround
@lewisfranielczyk5756
@lewisfranielczyk5756 8 ай бұрын
Loved having Tony at West Brom. Proper manager 👏 All downhill since
@Itskevooo17
@Itskevooo17 8 ай бұрын
Failing at west brom made bro realize he should be balling out for fuckin Bayern😂🤝
@TheRedPeril
@TheRedPeril 8 ай бұрын
It’s so worrying how many people work like crazy to make it as a player and then get a decent contract and slack off. I reckon managing young millionaires is the hardest part. Motivating them.
@AK-74K
@AK-74K 7 ай бұрын
Gnabry has no issues being motivated at Bayern.
@Mr_krabz_mcfc
@Mr_krabz_mcfc 8 ай бұрын
Steve bold was at crewe alex for while if im not mistaken
@trevorjonathan4405
@trevorjonathan4405 8 ай бұрын
I saw Gnabry subbed on in his PL debut for West Brom live on TV and he was great. As exciting as he was efficient. Yet he never made another PL appearance. I believe Pulis brought him in to use as defensive training against tricky skilful wingers in game.
@AK-74K
@AK-74K 7 ай бұрын
Possibly that could be true.
@andywhalley3669
@andywhalley3669 8 ай бұрын
Love Pulis. Would love to see him back at his second home, Stoke City in some form ❤
@SHEK110
@SHEK110 8 ай бұрын
Why would you want manager like Pulis in 2023? I think what he did with Gnabry actually says more about him than Gnabry
@andywhalley3669
@andywhalley3669 8 ай бұрын
@SHEK110 I never said manager did I? 🤔 and it wasn't just him who gave up on gnabry, why did arsenal release him? Because at that time he wasn't good enough. So mourinho is a bad manager because he didn't get the best out of Salah and De Bruyne? 🤔🤔🤔
@SHEK110
@SHEK110 8 ай бұрын
@@andywhalley3669 Arsenal didn’t release him, we offered him a contract and he left for more first team opportunities, he was one of our best prospects, these two don’t know what they’re talking about and you should probably listen to the actual Arsenal fan here who follows the club instead of a dinosaur who is trying to protect himself from criticism. Gnabry was too good for a Tony Pulis team and thats what it boils down to. I never understood why we would send one of our young players to him of all people
@SHEK110
@SHEK110 8 ай бұрын
@@andywhalley3669 Well to be fair, Mourinho has a similar brand of football to Pulis so its no surprise there. At least Mourinho is a serial winner so you can respect that treatment from someone like him to a certain extent but not with someone like Pulis who wouldn’t even be a championship manager in this day and age
@andywhalley3669
@andywhalley3669 8 ай бұрын
@SHEK110 would rather listen to 2 people who was actually there and witnessed it first hand 👍🏻 I can tell you're an arsenal fan for all the hate on pulis. Don't be bitter 😁 as for Mourinho, he came out and said, if he owned a football club he'd have pulis as manager. Very good praise coming from one of the best managers in the game. Or should I not believe that and listen to an Arsenal fan who doesn't know half of what Mourinho knows 🤣
@Viewer41
@Viewer41 8 ай бұрын
I'm not exactly a Pulis fan, but it's unfair to lay the blame on him. Everyone conveniently forgets Gnabry wasn't good enough to play for Arsenal at the time and wasn't deemed good enough for Arsenal to keep when someone wanted to buy him.
@dionb7584
@dionb7584 8 ай бұрын
Ironic that you're saying everyone forgets but it seems like you're the one who forgets. Arsenal wanted to keep Gnabry. He had one year left and wouldn't sign a new deal. We had to sell him. He was still a clear talent.
@trevorjonathan4405
@trevorjonathan4405 8 ай бұрын
Everyone forgets that Gnabry only left Arsenal because he was tapped up by Bayern (after seeing him star in a tournament for Germany U21's) whilst in his final year of contract. Wenger came out after the sale and said that Bayern sanctioned the sale through Werder Bremen. So how did Gnabry go from not performing well in training for West Brom to being scouted/tapped up by Bayern in a few months?
@rightie
@rightie 8 ай бұрын
Can you imagine having a talent like Gnabry, FAILING to get anything out of him, and acting like you did him a great favor? 😵‍💫
@danhewett6086
@danhewett6086 8 ай бұрын
​@@trevorjonathan4405again, change of attitude. He was an absolute disgrace, you have to work hard. Hard work gets you a lot further than talent
@fodaytarawali6613
@fodaytarawali6613 8 ай бұрын
​@@trevorjonathan4405why was he loaned out if a talent.. saka hasn't been loaned out Jeesh... He was big time... But proved he was quality after.. no one could predict that..
@jmitch6896
@jmitch6896 8 ай бұрын
Football is all about opinions
@gar6446
@gar6446 8 ай бұрын
Clearly Arsenal sent him out to Pulis, to act as a boot camp and toughen him up ready for league football and must have expected him to start more given his talent. It didnt work out for any of them, player, or either club. It happens.
@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere
@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere 8 ай бұрын
wait so he doesn't wear his baseball cap indoors? so that must mean the Fifa isn't realistic as he comes to negotiatons in full tracky and cap attire
@briangriffin1650
@briangriffin1650 8 ай бұрын
I don’t believe a word he says. Bouldy said he’s just not worked out here, struggled badly, it’s make or break? Arsene doesn’t see him as part of the club? Nah no chance. Stories were that Wenger wanted him to sign a new contract. I personally was calling for him to start for us before he was sent on loan, because every time he came on he was superb. Him and Ozil were clearly a partnership worth building upon. I hated Arsenal for this, even before he made a single appearance for West Brom, never mind Bremen or Bayern
@AK-74K
@AK-74K 7 ай бұрын
Gnabry didn't struggle badly at Arsenal, he played ok, but struggled tactically, like you would expect a young player. Pulis does come across as a liar here.
@AK-74K
@AK-74K 7 ай бұрын
@cianmacgana9092 What delusions?
@AK-74K
@AK-74K 7 ай бұрын
@cianmacgana9092 Arsene Wenger many times has said that he wanted to keep Gnaby, but Gnbry himself didn't want to as he already had this backdoor deal ageed with Bayern. So it's you who are delusional here.
@AK-74K
@AK-74K 7 ай бұрын
@cianmacgana9092 So you call me delusional, yet claim to be able to read Wenger's mind?
@AK-74K
@AK-74K 7 ай бұрын
@cianmacgana9092 You have some serious issues for you to act like like that online.
@lackofplethora7065
@lackofplethora7065 8 ай бұрын
GET MOZZA ON PLSSSSS
@SHEK110
@SHEK110 8 ай бұрын
Pulis is lying through his teeth here because there’s no way Bouldy said that about Gnabry because I remember this period of time when Gnabry was 18/19 was our best prospect at the time and had already made an impact on the 1st team and bagged a goal against Swansea so Pulis is trying save face with BS explanation, he just wasn’t good enough to coach him. Micheal Owen even said he held the training sessions he had every experienced when he was at Stoke.The truth of the matter is, is that Tony Pulis is an old school who isnt used to a certain of technical european player like Gnabry because lets face it, he isnt a very modern manager. He was probably the worse manager a player like Gnabry could go just based off his brand of football. I think things like this is why Pulis was nail in the coffin for the Tony Pulis’ of the world when it came to management, the game has moved past him and Big Sam. There’s no coincidence that Gnabry has gone to acheive what he did. Pulis probably doesn’t even understand the champions league let alone know what its like to win it.
@totsh2056
@totsh2056 7 ай бұрын
💯
@The_wolf2885
@The_wolf2885 8 ай бұрын
Tony Rugby Union Pulis is a results based manager not a coach, going to West Brom was a big mistake. Tony Pulis is no good for young players
@philh8288
@philh8288 7 ай бұрын
Our league positions were great, but it was mind numbing at times.
@mougiemoist1
@mougiemoist1 3 ай бұрын
Whys the manager getting a shower after the game 😂
@jkutv
@jkutv 8 ай бұрын
He was tekky even then but he wasn't a pulis player as pulis like 6ft 2 players who are units. He like playing 4 centre backs at the back. That was his style. He was anti football in style so a guy like gnabry was wasting his time. I don't care what he says here. You just know some players wouldn't get a chance to play in his team.
@fodaytarawali6613
@fodaytarawali6613 8 ай бұрын
What about arsenal then 😂 if he was awesome it would show..
@jkutv
@jkutv 8 ай бұрын
@@fodaytarawali6613 arsenal had more senior players. He was really young at this point. It's just getting a run of 30 games to show worth and develop. It isn't a mystery 😂 😂 😂 😂
@patrickmonkman8151
@patrickmonkman8151 7 ай бұрын
Well he was hardly running rings around those units in training…
@gregcooper2719
@gregcooper2719 7 ай бұрын
Just like Sessegnon? I wasn’t a fan of Pulis at West Brom, I remember us grinding out a 0-0 when we should have spanked villa in their relegation season, but to box him like that is plain wrong
@WatchTheClipsFilm-Tv
@WatchTheClipsFilm-Tv 8 ай бұрын
Be honest, from the minute he joined you lot probably didn’t like him. Idk if it’s cause of his fashion, the fact he came from a big club, he is foreign, idk but this was clear to see you lot didn’t gel with him and make him part of the team. Same thing with Salah and KDB at Chelsea, even Terry admitted he should have looked out for them more. Talking bout his ego as if he done or said anything bad. Give it a rest you didn’t like him from the start
@1234legend1234
@1234legend1234 8 ай бұрын
We had Lukaku on loan who was great for us and we had Carlos Vela who is a cult hero at Albion. Gnabry just wasn't very good for us.
@buchiaduba1523
@buchiaduba1523 8 ай бұрын
Terry also admitted those lads didn’t deserve to play they didn’t improve the team 💀 both him and Mikel admitted they were shocked to see what salad and de bruyne have gone on to achieve and they didn’t deserve to get into that Chelsea team Young players don’t do the business sometimes This is a very common phenomenon I get it you don’t rate foster and pulis Doesn’t mean they are talking shite But I do understand that system at west bro May Definitely not have suited serge anyway so pointless in him going there But these things happen in football Doesn’t mean they are talking shite
@WatchTheClipsFilm-Tv
@WatchTheClipsFilm-Tv 8 ай бұрын
@@buchiaduba1523 yeah but difference is that Salah and KDB were a part of a Chelsea team that was challenging, not a West Brom team that was looking to stay in the league. Terry - one of the best centre backs in premier league history - admitted he could have done more but I hear what you’re saying
@buchiaduba1523
@buchiaduba1523 8 ай бұрын
@@WatchTheClipsFilm-Tv Thing is I do think it’s the same I think those are the 2 worse kinds of clubs for a young player to play in if you are fighting relegation or chasing titles at the highest level the inconsistencies of young players becomes harder to accommodate can’t just throw him in if he ain’t doing the business in training when you are 3points from bottom or United is breathing down your neck for top spot it’s not impossible but becomes a harder decision These managers need reliable players The costs are too high
@buchiaduba1523
@buchiaduba1523 8 ай бұрын
@@WatchTheClipsFilm-Tv and terry is speaking in hindsight everyone is great with hindsight if de bruyne and salah had gone on to be nobodies you wouldn’t hear him speak about them They didn’t do the business in that period man simple as needed to drop a level to prove themselves
@trevorjonathan4405
@trevorjonathan4405 8 ай бұрын
Gnabry only left Arsenal because he was tapped up by Bayern (after seeing him star in a tournament for Germany U21's) whilst in his final year of contract. Wenger came out after the sale and said that Bayern sanctioned the sale through Werder Bremen. So how did Gnabry go from not performing well in training for West Brom to being scouted/tapped up by Bayern in a few months?
@i.blomen
@i.blomen 8 ай бұрын
mate you have left 4 comments on this, let it rest.
@segobaetso
@segobaetso 8 ай бұрын
I never seen him play bad for Arsenal, I was confused by his doubters.
@freedomisslavery6840
@freedomisslavery6840 7 ай бұрын
Mate, get a life and touch grass. You've left about 100 comments on this video.
@anthonymorris1066
@anthonymorris1066 8 ай бұрын
It just goes to show you.. He's achieved more in the game than these two put together 😂😂
@danhewett6086
@danhewett6086 8 ай бұрын
Serge Gnabry hasn't won the EFL Trophy... Ben has!
@anthonymorris1066
@anthonymorris1066 8 ай бұрын
Exactly 🤣🤣
@Nicholascagesmandolin
@Nicholascagesmandolin 8 ай бұрын
No need to be disrespectful to these guys. I think they were very fair about Gnabry and it was a good story.
@anthonymorris1066
@anthonymorris1066 8 ай бұрын
I said facts. They told a story. See the difference.
@AK-74K
@AK-74K 7 ай бұрын
The suit story was uncalled for here, what does that have to do with anything? Just shows Pulis has agenda. And trying to take credit for his turnaround giving him 'a kick up the backside' - what a load of crap
@trevorjonathan4405
@trevorjonathan4405 8 ай бұрын
Serge Gnabry was hugely respected by the older (near) world class Arsenal players at that time. I have only seen that level of respect shown to Fabregas & Saka. This is PRulis revisionism
@brandonlim4159
@brandonlim4159 8 ай бұрын
Then why didnt arsenal keep him?
@joshafc41
@joshafc41 8 ай бұрын
​@@brandonlim4159Because he wouldn't sign a new contract. He was a starter for arsenal but then he got injured and was out for a long time the loan to west brom was meant to be part of his recovery it didn't go well and after that he only had a year left on his contract which he wouldn't resign so he was sold. I remember him performing very well at the Olympics that season.
@SHEK110
@SHEK110 8 ай бұрын
Pulis is lying. He should just admit he doesn’t have the capability to coach technical players. Dinosaur
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