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Tasting History with Max Miller

Tasting History with Max Miller

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@TastingHistory
@TastingHistory Жыл бұрын
To support the Wôpanâak Language Reclamation Project, visit www.wlrp.org/
@Firegen1
@Firegen1 Жыл бұрын
This sounds like an amazing project!
@James35142
@James35142 Жыл бұрын
I was JUST watching an old video of yours when I got this notification.
@mylesjude233
@mylesjude233 Жыл бұрын
Sounds cool, thanks for the link
@JayMannStuff
@JayMannStuff Жыл бұрын
As for soaking beans, the main reason to do it is to allow bacteria time to break down the **Raffinose** in your beans. Raffinose is a sugar that's indigestible to humans because we lack the right enzyme. But bacteria in our intestines can break it down. When bacteria break down Raffinose, gas is produced... And then later expelled. Soaking beans 8-12 hours reduces the Raffinose content. So soak your beans, your spouse will thank you.
@amo4068
@amo4068 Жыл бұрын
Love your vids, probably seen every one of them. But isn't saying the language revival project is important because of it's value to American History kind of messed up? American history is why it went dormant for 150 years. Supporting it seems more important because its the right thing to do and because it's important to the future of the Wampanoag people.
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. Жыл бұрын
The Wampanoag Nation must be congratulated on this language reclamation project and so happy to hear it being supported.
@MrChristianDT
@MrChristianDT Жыл бұрын
That's the good thing about it. About half of the Algonquian languages really aren't spoken at all, anymore, but most of them were extremely well recorded, so not impossible to reasonabl reconstruct & revive.
@BTLOTM
@BTLOTM Жыл бұрын
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@iwontliveinfear
@iwontliveinfear Жыл бұрын
@@MrChristianDT yeah but just like Latin, the proper pronunciation, inflection, and accent have been lost forever.
@chalor182
@chalor182 Жыл бұрын
I learned about the Wampanoag language reclamation during my masters program this year and its really amazing what they've been able to do and how hard they've worked to bring it back from the brink of extinction
@n8pls543
@n8pls543 Жыл бұрын
@@iwontliveinfear There's actually a lot of reconstruction of classical Latin due to how the Italians wrote extensively about how poorly everyone else pronounced it. We've come a long way from everyone pronouncing C like S.
@Oxtocoatl13
@Oxtocoatl13 Жыл бұрын
It's a terrible shame that we don't have a memoir by Tisquantum. With everything he went through from slavery to being one of the first native Americans who spent time in Europe and were able to return home, to the post-apocalyptic wasteland he found when he finally got back. His was a life filled to the brim with tragedy.
@Justanotherconsumer
@Justanotherconsumer Жыл бұрын
@R. P. “hurt people hurt people” is a stereotype that often doesn’t hold up - those who have known tragedy are just as likely to become more kind and empathetic as they are to become callous and uncaring.
@cogspace
@cogspace Жыл бұрын
Thinking about how excited he might have been coming home, ready to share the story of his escape from his captors and everything he learned in England... only to find his entire tribe dead of disease - or maybe he got news of that before he left England, I wonder. It really is a shame we can't read about this experience in his own words. The fact that, after all that, he still chose to help these Europeans and created such a lasting peace, he must've been an incredible person.
@kathleenhensley5951
@kathleenhensley5951 Жыл бұрын
It must have been heart breaking to return home and find everyone gone. He as a good man though, that much is obvious.
@louisewilliams1258
@louisewilliams1258 Жыл бұрын
@R. P. Blame Whitey for everything. They never did one damn thing that was good… (Obvious sarcasm)
@natmorse-noland9133
@natmorse-noland9133 Жыл бұрын
@R. P. it's possible he never realized the Europeans were responsible for his people's death. Germ theory was still centuries off, after all, so it wasn't really possible to accurately trace the origins of disease outbreaks.
@codac6111
@codac6111 Жыл бұрын
My people, the Yesásahín here in North Carolina, are also doing a language revitalization! Using words we still have, the help of our linguist cousins piecing together the words and backstory of all the words and how we can begin to speak it again! I'm so proud of our Indigenous family, from here in the state to up coast
@-jank-willson
@-jank-willson Жыл бұрын
Is the Yesásahín a part of the Algonquin peoples?
@codac6111
@codac6111 Жыл бұрын
@@-jank-willson Hi! We are not! The name of my tribe is the Occaneechi Band of the Saponi Nation, so we're Saponi! Our language is similar to the Lakota, where we were settled in that region looong before settlers arrived. We migrated and settled in the curent-day area of NC. We aren't related to the Algonquin peoples, but perhaps someone of a different tribe farther up may be! We're pretty Southeastern Woodland here in NC though
@johnn.2017
@johnn.2017 Жыл бұрын
@@Wildflower687 You want government funding for language studies? Good luck. Maybe my president will toss you a roll of paper towels. It's heartbreaking to see how the U.S. treats my fellow Americans in Puerto Rico.
@-jank-willson
@-jank-willson Жыл бұрын
@@codac6111 OK, so that means you are more in the piedmont region of NC? If I remember right, the algonqin tribes were in the coastal regions of North Carolina, The saponis were in the piedmont, and cherokees in the mountains?
@codac6111
@codac6111 Жыл бұрын
@@-jank-willson Yes! My tribe's in the Piedmont area, and the Cherokee are a few hours drive away going towards the mountains! I'll have to ask my family more about some tribes that could be Algonquin, but I wouldn't be surprised there are some along the coast going up. Lots of people move all the time and it's surprising how things tend to end up. I just don't want to speak on another tribe or potentially give you the wrong information! Edit; Oops! I just did a quick search to find some more Algonquin people on the coast, you're right! I just mainly try to focus on the Saponi people, so I can't give much info about Algonquin heritage or history- I'd have to ask and do research about that, which I'll probably get to soon!
@momkatmax
@momkatmax Жыл бұрын
As a Cherokee, I see this as a moment in time of peace and celebration between the Native people and the English. It was so sad it didn't continue.
@bookswithatwist-vanvelzerp9262
@bookswithatwist-vanvelzerp9262 Жыл бұрын
exactly - it lasted for the life of those first ones on both sides - and THAT is what should have been the guideline for the future - but greedy Virginia Company execs ruined it .... point being Thanksgiving is fine - greed is not - and we need to call out the hate and greed everywhere ..... and plant 3 sisters when we can :) LOL I do and they always do better than any other plants in the garden.
@asalways1504
@asalways1504 Жыл бұрын
My sentiments exactly. I see Thanksgiving the same way I see the Christmas truce of WW1. For a brief moment, there was hope for peace between two opposing sides, but it wasn’t meant to be. It’s bitter sweet.
@jaehaspels9607
@jaehaspels9607 Жыл бұрын
Well, white people aren't really known for being able to share land.
@AlexanderLittlebears
@AlexanderLittlebears Жыл бұрын
@@bookswithatwist-vanvelzerp9262 So you wish Anglo-America never existed
@bookswithatwist-vanvelzerp9262
@bookswithatwist-vanvelzerp9262 Жыл бұрын
@@AlexanderLittlebears that is a childish jump in psduo-logic - try again pot stirrer ... guys like you are why the treaty failed the next generation.
@willgonyea
@willgonyea Жыл бұрын
As a Haudenosaunee Native American, I very much appreciate you doing this, making an Indigenous dish. While we're used to Frybread, Indian Tacos/Navajo Tacos and similar contemporary dishes, it's amazing to see a dish that was used before the settlers/pilgrims/colonizers arrived. Since it is Native American Heritage month, would it be possible to cook other Indigenous dishes to futher educate others on our cuisine? Anyways, thank you for this video. Much love Max.
@michaelpettersson4919
@michaelpettersson4919 Жыл бұрын
Maybe send him a collection of family recipes and encurage others to do the same? Perhaps help him out with a guest cook?
@thecook8964
@thecook8964 Жыл бұрын
Sadly, fry bread (delicious) is beginning to become a symbol of oppression for indigenous people- represents the government staples like flour, that they had never eateñ before, when forced to move to reservations. Cornmeal, acorn flour, etc. was much more healthy. Yet, it does represent the adaptability of Native Americans to make a yummy dish out of the Spartan rations they were allowed by the invaders & there are many happy memories of pow wows & Naive American Grandmother's, etc. powering out scrumptious fry bread, etc. Check out the many talented Native American Chef's videos on KZbin on Native American recipes. Sean Sherman is a name to start with. I remember my Father, part Ute, opining about how delicious pinion pinenuts were (he was pretty poor). Pregnant woman found a lot of nutrition from them, for example. Hit up the Elders, for information, before they're gone & teach your children.
@adedow1333
@adedow1333 Жыл бұрын
I'm excited about this! I'm so curious about how the first nations prepared food before the European settlers arrived.
@davidruff7514
@davidruff7514 Жыл бұрын
Agreed brother. We need more of our culture
@SingingSealRiana
@SingingSealRiana Жыл бұрын
@@davidruff7514 yes please, culture lives through being shared. So much was destroyed, keeping what is left alive is of imessurable value!
@TheGallantDrake
@TheGallantDrake Жыл бұрын
Three sisters! Yes! Thank you for talking about this. People are always under the impression that the First Nations were all hunter-gatherers, when they were just as diverse and innovative as any group of European cultures.
@krankarvolund7771
@krankarvolund7771 Жыл бұрын
Even more diverse as they ranged from hunter-gatherers to fully sedentaries, whiile European nations ony had sedentaries lifestyle ^^
@ragnkja
@ragnkja Жыл бұрын
@@krankarvolund7771 Except the Sámi peoples, who were treated quite similarly to North American First Nations, including being forced to attend residential schools where they weren’t allowed to maintain their own language or culture.
@Roach4K
@Roach4K Жыл бұрын
I'm always interested in what the staple foods are for different cultures and it pleases me that Max brought it up, because i had no idea. Hence why i reccomend this channel to friends and fellow nerds, Max does fantastic research.
@SikkeOst
@SikkeOst Жыл бұрын
Not to mention they had great cities as well and had some metalworking, but used it for ornamental purposes more than for warfare
@krankarvolund7771
@krankarvolund7771 Жыл бұрын
@@ragnkja Oops you're right ^^'
@Page001B
@Page001B Жыл бұрын
I have to say: the hard tack joke actually never gets old😂 I still get a giggle every time!
@willek1335
@willek1335 Жыл бұрын
Never gets old. 👌
@jennypaxton8159
@jennypaxton8159 Жыл бұрын
Clack Clack
@FuknKms
@FuknKms 7 ай бұрын
Its the biggest meme of the channel
@ckhprojectpro777
@ckhprojectpro777 Жыл бұрын
You strike such a great balance with the history and respect for the cultures you share from, acknowledging the past, without living in it in a negative way and using well-placed, gentle humor (Symbiotic Plant Complex is the band name I should’ve used, lol). I raise my tea cup to you, Sir.
@NMN_CP
@NMN_CP 11 ай бұрын
it's ok to 'live the past in a negative way' when you are telling the truth about the repulsive violence of settler colonialism.
@darkangelsoaps8258
@darkangelsoaps8258 9 ай бұрын
​@@NMN_CPyes there was nothing but peace and butterflies and baby deer drinking from babbling brooks and no warfare or violence until the evil colonists came with their oppression.
@kampy19
@kampy19 Жыл бұрын
God the hard tack jokes just slaps every. single. time. I love it.
@lukascph
@lukascph Жыл бұрын
It wouldn't be Tasting History without it. *clack, clack*
@austinhan6998
@austinhan6998 Жыл бұрын
Would you say those jokes clack?
@morganalori
@morganalori Жыл бұрын
Whenever I think about or hear other channels talk about hard tack, my head sees/hears that clack, clack with Max. It's the perfect running gag. It'd be fun if he snuck onto other channels with his hardtack clacks.
@Zaarin1
@Zaarin1 Жыл бұрын
Imagine asking for a beer and getting handed hardtack. 🤣
@miinyoo
@miinyoo Жыл бұрын
It does. The happy happy joy joy face makes it.
@25xxfrostxx
@25xxfrostxx Жыл бұрын
Apparently I had ancestry on both sides here. This was great to see. Interesting and non food related anecdote: One of the Wampanoag stories indicated that, in their time living on the eastern coastline, they encountered men who "sailed down the coast in winged ships who fought with axes" long before the Europeans arrived. Combining that story with the account that one of the Wampanoag members of the tribe who married into my family was described as "Red of hair with fair skin and blue eyes". I have a good guess who they met sailing down the coast years before.
@craigsurette3438
@craigsurette3438 Жыл бұрын
One of my anthropology professors is a very traditional Abenaki lady who preserves their cultural heritage. When i asked her if her people had any stories about preColumbian contact, she said "Yes!" and told me a story about a young woman who was kidnapped by "Huge lighthaired strangers, who had clothes of many colors, that ran in 2 different directions" If that isnt a Native's description of big Viking dudes in woven plaid/herringbone/ tweed etc l, i dont know what is We know that the Norse colony we found in Newfoundland wasnt inhabited year round, and was probably a repair/waystation. We also found a bag full of butternuts, which only grow several hundred miles away from the site in warmer climates. That means the Vinlanders were settling somewhere else, probably a bit further south
@adedow1333
@adedow1333 Жыл бұрын
Oh vikings! That's exciting that the Scandinavian pirates made it that far!
@nicolechafetz3904
@nicolechafetz3904 Жыл бұрын
Only recently have I gotten into studying the history of these people. I understand that modern cousins sometimes dislike the term "Viking." Only this week did I see a real explanation of why when a Norwegian historian on a KZbin documentary I was watching said that all Scandinavians know what outsiders don't! Viking is something YOU DO, not someone you ARE. I also was amazed to find out that women could be considered equals as long as they were good warriors! One of the most famous and sumptuous ship graves was uncovered recently. Inside was the body of a female Viking and likely a slave girl that was buried with her. (Back to the human sacrifice.) I had no idea how far they actually traveled and took their culture! There were Viking villages all over Eastern Europe and even recently, an archaeologist found a Buddhist statue in Norway I believe? In an ancient village. They have narrowed it down to current day Pakistan! That is where it was made! WHATTTTT???? I did not learn this as a school child! Now I wish to travel to Norway! My grandmother was a world traveler and traveled to Norway many times: she loved it. But now I'm captivated! I also had no idea how bloody the culture was. I am fascinated with both things. I had no idea that the bodies found in the peat bogs when I was a little girl were victims of human sacrifice! Maybe one day, Max will get back to our North Men! (My best friend claims to be a direct descendent of Eric the Red.)
@MrChristianDT
@MrChristianDT Жыл бұрын
I had white ancestors who were puritans in that general area, but apparently they showed up a bit later & weren't on the initial trip. A lot of them were involved in King Phillip's War, though. And one of them was apparently arrested for fucking a cow, but was let go. He became the colony's liason with Native spies during that war. I was really hoping to find a Native ancestor there, but no such luck.
@ragnkja
@ragnkja Жыл бұрын
@@nicolechafetz3904 Both trade goods and knowledge could travel much farther than any individual trader would be likely to travel. The Silk Road is an excellent example of how trade tended to work back then.
@christinemascott8061
@christinemascott8061 Жыл бұрын
I am from Mashpee, MA, home of the "People of the First Light". Just wanted to let you know that Plimoth "Plantation" recently changed their name to Plimoth Patuxet. Thanks for doing this piece.
@kitefan1
@kitefan1 Жыл бұрын
I did not know that. Thanks. Rhode Island recently took Plantation out of the state name. The evolution of meaning has scarred the word to only one (very bad) association. And adding Patuxet in is a nice honor to heritage of the land.
@ragnkja
@ragnkja Жыл бұрын
I’m so happy that they’re returning to the original name of the place.
@azureprophet
@azureprophet Жыл бұрын
I have been to the Old Indian Meeting House, awesome piece of historical architecture! Thanks for the update about Plimoth.
@M_M_ODonnell
@M_M_ODonnell Жыл бұрын
@@ragnkja I don't know if that's being done more often, or if I just notice it more. Towns in Alaska, lakes in Minnesota...so many English place names in North America are the name of some general or governor or such, often one who never even saw the place in question. It's better all around to return the original place names.
@ragnkja
@ragnkja Жыл бұрын
@@M_M_ODonnell Or the place is named after somewhere else (like Plymouth), but the name isn’t all that accurate for the new place it’s applied to. (I’m pretty sure Newcastle, Australia isn’t named after a castle that was built there, for example.)
@Nstone53
@Nstone53 Жыл бұрын
I'm 1/4 Potowatomi and I still remember my grandma telling us the grandkids about how she used to speak her native tongue when she was really young. I was always interested in that. I later learned that it wasn't long after she got put into the catholic boarding school they literally beat it out of the children. It's sad. I've tried to learn some words but the language is hard and is practically dead now.
@alexschuster1618
@alexschuster1618 Жыл бұрын
I hope you're able to reclaim as much as you're able to.
@krono5el
@krono5el Жыл бұрын
Just like the Natives in Central America 100 years before their cousins in the north, they had to convert or their whole family would be tortured to death. thats why we all speak spanish, portoguese, french or english now.
@dusktodawn3796
@dusktodawn3796 Жыл бұрын
Gotta love them child beating Christians. I may be 3% Native, love my country and also live in the town that King Philip was gunned down in but I am still absolutely horrified by what the English did to claim it. I even became atheist because of the atrocities that these Christians and Catholics have caused because the big sky wizard told them so.
@HeronCoyote1234
@HeronCoyote1234 8 ай бұрын
Have you read (or listened to) “Braiding Sweetgrass” by Robin Wall Kimmerer? She’s of your tribe.
@mallarieluvsgirls
@mallarieluvsgirls 4 ай бұрын
my grandmother went through the same thing!!! literal genocide. we call them residential schools in canada.
@catharinepizzarello4784
@catharinepizzarello4784 Жыл бұрын
I know so little about this area, though I’ve lived here most of my life. We were taught a bunch of hogwash as kids, the truth is so horrific! I donated to the project. My respect to them, and to you, Max.
@TastingHistory
@TastingHistory Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@rachelrodewald2546
@rachelrodewald2546 Жыл бұрын
To Max or anyone else interested in reading more along the lines of this video, I can only suggest "Changes in the Land" by William Cronon. It's all about the indigenous tribes in New England, Wampanoag included, and how they managed the land before and during contact, and land rights and what not. If you're feeling particularly nerdy, later editions include information on Cronon's methodology, which is cool in the sense that this was one of the first environmental histories. It's also one of the least 'brick' ish books I've had to read for my MA, which is a nice plus.
@tthappyrock368
@tthappyrock368 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the book recommendation! I'm going to have to read it!
@mathamster7909
@mathamster7909 Жыл бұрын
It is so easily digestible, not to mention it really helps break down the preconceptions many think of precolonial landscape of Eastern America that were set by 19th century transcendentalists
@westernmasswonderwoman3326
@westernmasswonderwoman3326 Жыл бұрын
What an amazing coincidence - I just picked up this book TODAY before even seeing this! I was hesitant about it's content because so many things written about the indigenous tribes has a very colonial bias, but I'm very pleased to hear that it is a good reference. Thank you!
@anissaferringer4965
@anissaferringer4965 Жыл бұрын
Is it the one talking about how much wood was used? And deforestation? I know the name, but can't recall if I read it...
@rachelrodewald2546
@rachelrodewald2546 Жыл бұрын
@@anissaferringer4965 it very well may be? Sorry it’s been twelve months and easily twice as many academic texts
@nmbcb4
@nmbcb4 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, Max, for your sharing and support of the Wôpanâak Language Reclamation Project. The eleventh granddaughter of Mattachiest Sachem Iyannough and I have prepared this dish and a few other Wampanoag treats for our annual day of mourning and the more celebratory harvest festival of Cranberry Day. We'll be sharing a 3 sisters salad this year along with oysters farmed at the First Light Shellfish Farm; if they arrive on time. Keep up the good work!
@bugsmith9751
@bugsmith9751 Жыл бұрын
one of the dishes that my mother who is fascinated with our native heritage, and an old native american historian friend have both specified that was at the first thanksgiving was actually... POPCORN! it was apparently a popular side dish
@peabody1976
@peabody1976 Жыл бұрын
Good show with supporting the Wôpanâak Language Reclamation Project. As a funny, I hope they have a word for "hardtack" somewhere in their documents. And that stew looks great!
@gweebara
@gweebara Жыл бұрын
That is possibly the best Thanksgiving history I have ever seen. You were succinct you did not gloss it over and you did not make it a guilt trip great job Max
@kevindahlenburg2528
@kevindahlenburg2528 Жыл бұрын
Completely agree. One of the most refreshing accounts I’ve ever heard.
@TastingHistory
@TastingHistory Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Robert
@Mrturtlestomps
@Mrturtlestomps Жыл бұрын
Hoot wireless
@NightTimeDay
@NightTimeDay Жыл бұрын
I love when history is about history first. So used to politics coming first in my post secondary classes. Thank you Max.
@adedow1333
@adedow1333 Жыл бұрын
Well-balanced indeed! It takes no small amount of skill to negotiate such charged waters without upsetting the inhabitants.
@craigsurette3438
@craigsurette3438 Жыл бұрын
When we made this dish with my New England Native Ethnobotany professor, she made it with the cornmeal made into dumplings which were boiled in the stew when it was close to done. It was amazing that way. She also described it being sometimes thickened with acorn flour.
@WannabeWoodsman
@WannabeWoodsman Жыл бұрын
One thing I love about this show is that Max always gives his sources which makes me want to find them and read them myself
@jmbad
@jmbad Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this. As a native man, thanksgiving is bittersweet and always makes me sad for my fellow natives.
@Roach4K
@Roach4K Жыл бұрын
Honestly, as a Swedish man i'm very curious about different american native cultures and would love to learn more about all of the different cultures within the "U.S" before the "thing". Just know that there are people interested in your culture and heritage all around the world!
@thestraydog
@thestraydog Жыл бұрын
It's such a shame that so much indigenous cuisine has disappeared but I've seen a bit more of it lately on KZbin and cooking shows. Awesome as always Max, nice choice!
@maecooper8540
@maecooper8540 Жыл бұрын
If you are ever in Washington DC, the Museum of the American Indian has a restaurant that serves modern American Indian cuisine.
@kingjonstarkgeryan8573
@kingjonstarkgeryan8573 Жыл бұрын
I would be hesitant to say that it fully disappeared as it just evolved and mixed with European cusine like if you look at Mexican and other Latin American cuisine, it's a mixture of native and European cuisines. Like last night I had chicken fajitas with a side of spanish rice and refried beans. Chickens, wheat flour, rice, and many of the spices in recipe came from the old world while the bell peppers, beans, chiles, tomato, and tortillas came from, the new world
@adedow1333
@adedow1333 Жыл бұрын
@@maecooper8540 I can't believe that I grew up there and didn't know that.
@maecooper8540
@maecooper8540 Жыл бұрын
@@kingjonstarkgeryan8573 right. Can you imagine Italian food without tomatoes or polenta - both new world ingredients? American food has lots of Indian influences, and American Indians still cook Indian cuisines. But of course it has cha over the years - so has everyone else's cuisines.
@kitefan1
@kitefan1 Жыл бұрын
People used to eat, and savor a lot of "sweet meats", and internal organs. It's often the most vitamin and fat rich part of the animal if the animal is wild game. Bone marrow is also great, even if you have to work the bone saw dust out of your mouth.
@michellek.163
@michellek.163 Жыл бұрын
I've only discovered your channel somewhat recently, but both the videos and comment sections are a gift. Especially in touching upon such a difficult subject in US history, we can not ignore/simplify the past but face it in an honest and human way. Food has always been a bridge across cultures, a way in giving life, and representing food in an honest way helps us honestly face history as well. The teachings of the three sisters is essential in indigenous cultures, and I am glad people are more widely talking about the lessons that can be learned from it. I recommend for people to read Braiding Sweetgrass for an in-depth understanding into indigenous cultures, which involves food quite a bit. Bravo Max, well done and keep humanizing our history in the best way possible.
@lisahinton9682
@lisahinton9682 Жыл бұрын
How sad that their peaceful co-existence only lasted two generations (a generation being widely accepted as twenty-five years), then all heck broke loose. This was a very well-done video, Max, and the stew looks fantastic. Thank you.
@CatharticCreation
@CatharticCreation Жыл бұрын
it seems that two generations is a long time for peace in my opinion. it's more rare than not.
@ritawilbur7343
@ritawilbur7343 Жыл бұрын
In this case it really was one actual generation. One of the reasons for the lasting peace is that Bradford and Massasoit regularly went and stayed in each other's homes. One time when Massasoit became ill, Bradford went and personally nursed him back to health. These two men knew how their communities needed each other in order to survive. But when more English came and they did not have that mutual respect, Massasoit's son Metacom (aka King Phillip) and Bradford's son did not stay in each other's homes, and viewed each other's community as a threat. Metacom was the first Native American leader to try to unite the various tribes in a war against the English, but by that point it was already too late. His war, though unsuccessful, remains the most deadly war in "US" history in terms of the percentage of the English population who were killed.
@kriskemp4952
@kriskemp4952 Жыл бұрын
I work with the Ute tribe closely. Their culture is beautiful and rich in traditional customs. I constantly urge the youth to hold onto their ancestral language and history. This country is a more amazing place when we embrace all peoples
@Kerithanos
@Kerithanos Жыл бұрын
Is English culture beautiful and rich in traditional customs? Should their youth hold onto their ancestral language and history? How about the French, the Germans, Italians, Russians, etc, etc?
@rieskimo
@rieskimo Жыл бұрын
@@Kerithanos pretty sure all those cultures are celebrated and appreciated. You sound upset, can't understand why though.
@Kerithanos
@Kerithanos Жыл бұрын
@@rieskimo Why do you think I sound upset? Maybe you're projecting?
@katelijnesommen
@katelijnesommen Жыл бұрын
@@Kerithanos Yes, all those cultures are rich and beautiful and they are all very alive and highly celebrated in their historical 'original' regions and far beyond (especially English culture, as it was exported to many different parts of the world). What is your point?
@Kerithanos
@Kerithanos Жыл бұрын
@@katelijnesommen The same as Kris Kemp's, I can only presume. Why are you asking me, but not him?
@APFC95
@APFC95 Жыл бұрын
As a non American that did not know that story, it was WILD, equally moving and cruel, wow
@SheyD78
@SheyD78 Жыл бұрын
Just thinking about the 'three sisters' it makes so much sense. I've had pumpkins (squashes) growing in the garden and they really do take over and shade out the weeds, mostly. Beans being nitrogen fixers would be good for the other 2 and corn providing something to climb for the beans ties it all together. Very cool.
@catc8927
@catc8927 Жыл бұрын
Learning of that makes me sad for the equally brilliant Native knowledge that we could use today and must’ve lost as a result of forced cultural assimilation. The Western US is finding out the hard way why the natives here did regular prescribed burns, for instance, after record wildfires.
@TheAmazingKoki
@TheAmazingKoki Жыл бұрын
Just a tip when cooking a thick stew like this: you can cook it without stirring if you layer it properly. So in this case, you'd put the polenta on top of the other ingredients. That way the thick stuff can't go to the bottom of the pot, and you'd only have to worry about it burning after you start stirring it up. So you layer it, let all the ingredients simmer, and only stir to finish it all and maybe reduce it a little if it isn't thick enough.
@bsteven885
@bsteven885 Жыл бұрын
Would that layering also help in cooking this recipe for stew in a Crock Pot or other slow cooker? OR, because of the need to skim off the foam, is this recipe not suitable for a "set it and forget it" type of cooking method?
@philaphobic
@philaphobic Жыл бұрын
Couldn't he just leave the polenta out until he adds the squash? Polenta doesn't take long to cook.
@t_y8274
@t_y8274 Жыл бұрын
@@philaphobic polenta takes a long time if you are not using instant polenta
@philaphobic
@philaphobic Жыл бұрын
@@t_y8274 it's never taken me as long as dry beans
@t_y8274
@t_y8274 Жыл бұрын
@@philaphobic my package of polenta says 40m, and I find unsoaked beans usually take me even longer to soften. Could be the products in my country are different
@qjames0077
@qjames0077 Жыл бұрын
This year, I'm thankful for Max always uploading around my lunch break to get me in the meal vibes 🥰
@Scudboy17
@Scudboy17 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate you diving into the history of the first Thanksgiving, It's triumphs and tragedies. So much of our history has been colored by marketing and watered down to simple children's stories that's it's always good to get the larger picture of what actually occured without skewing the story for other ends. Thank you Max. You've found the perfect vehicle to deliver education and history and make it relatable and enjoyable.
@adedow1333
@adedow1333 Жыл бұрын
I love going over it again and again because there is always something more to learn. I love watching the interactions of different individuals and people's and how their cultures meshed and bounced off each other. It's very exciting!
@3bellam
@3bellam Жыл бұрын
I find the story of the first thanksgiving so incredibly sad, though inspiring all the same. It's insane that Tisquantum was able to find love in his heart for the Europeans who brought him such pain, and that the settlers and the local tribe were able to so peacefully get along and help each other for that fifty year period. Still it's heartbreaking that humans can switch up on each other so quickly. If only that pact had been maintained for longer, our nation's history might look quite different.
@krono5el
@krono5el Жыл бұрын
when your king and god label native people godless savages its ok to genocide them to extinction, because you got the ultimate permission. god came and blessed america.
@this_is_ironic5659
@this_is_ironic5659 4 ай бұрын
i am a 12th generation descendent of Elder William Brewster, who no doubt was present at this first thanksgiving, and i could not be happier to hear about the fact that you're supporting the wampanoag language reclamation project. i lived in plymouth for the first 18 years of my life and became intimately acquainted with wampanoag historians and if there is a people more deserving of support (given the federal government's refusal to recognize them as a legitimate native nation) i cannot think of them. they are some of the kindest people i have ever met, and it truly warms my heart to see the history of my great state and its first inhabitants being given their due diligence and being given the support they so desperately need to reclaim their mother tongue. thank you so much, max. this video truly made my day. thank God for the wampanoag people. if they had not provided for my forefathers during that cold, bitter winter of 1620, I surely would not be writing this comment.
@robwholley2115
@robwholley2115 Жыл бұрын
Great recipe and greater history. Even growing up mere miles from Plymouth, we aren't taught nearly as much as we should about the European/Indigenous history, just that we all became happy friends at Thanksgiving and lived happily ever after. We can all celebrate our family and heritage as Americans on Thanksgiving, but we also must remain wise to the things that happened that they avoid mentioning in "history" class.
@mattpowell06
@mattpowell06 Жыл бұрын
We have a native Floridian of Muskogee creek descent, Jimmy Sawgrass, who teaches about the history of native Indians in south eastern US. He starts every lesson by an introduction in his ancestors native tongue. Good on you, Max, for donating to help bringing life back to a forgotten language. Jimmy Sawgrass would be proud.
@patricioiasielski8816
@patricioiasielski8816 Жыл бұрын
This dish is pretty similar to "Locro", also a common holiday food here in Argentina. It's eaten mainly in independence day (9th of July), 25 de mayo and workers day (1st of may). The main differences are that the corn used is white (although it can vary) and just cracked (not ground), the beans are a big type of lima bean called "pallares", and it uses tough cuts of cow's meat with a lot of bone and connective tissue, and it also uses pig's trotter, pig's skin and "chorizo colorado" (a cured chorizo with a lot of paprika/pimenton).
@krono5el
@krono5el Жыл бұрын
in Central and South America the Natives would have used turkey, lama, or venison.
@SlavicCelery
@SlavicCelery Жыл бұрын
Sounds like he got pretty close to the genuine article. Cool!
@patricioiasielski8816
@patricioiasielski8816 8 ай бұрын
sorry but I think I didn't asked you@@johnjones9065
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. Жыл бұрын
So excited that this is another episode of ‘We don’t actually know the origins of this’ kind of episode. Such fun!
@vlamb4769
@vlamb4769 Жыл бұрын
Having grown up in Massachusetts, not much of the history part of this episode was new information for me... but I'll be damned if I didn't enjoy it anyway 😁 I'm not sure if this is still the case, since I haven't been there in about fifteen years, but the Robert S. Peabody Museum in Andover, MA used to have the Three Sisters growing in the front of the building (complete with crushed shell fertilizer) as a living example of historical Native American agriculture. If you ever get a chance to visit the Boston area, I HIGHLY recommend checking this museum out.
@meowcenary21
@meowcenary21 Жыл бұрын
I descend from the Echota Alabama Cherokee tribe, who were exiled from their lands during the Trail of Tears. Thank you for bringing more Native food history to the channel! Osiyo!
@hurpdurpize
@hurpdurpize Жыл бұрын
This is a great episode. I really like the balanced approach to it. You do not shying away from some of the more shameful parts of our history but also celebrate and recognize the better parts that have similarly gone away. I am not a speaker of any of the native languages that the Wampanoag may have spoke, but the effort to try and speak their language really made this even better.
@jamLP
@jamLP Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Max. This was a very sincere tribute and a very well rounded picture of history. If only those 50 years could have lasted forever.
@JoanZak
@JoanZak Жыл бұрын
I was a history teacher for 15 years, so I agree with Max that we are all lovers of lifelong learning on this channel. That's why we love Max and Jose. This channel always makes me smile, and renews my faith in humanity!
@SheilaTheGrate
@SheilaTheGrate Жыл бұрын
Also, thank you for taking the opportunity to feature indigenous cuisine. It's really important to celebrate their culture at every opportunity.
@ihaveasnake
@ihaveasnake Жыл бұрын
The three sisters, when eaten together, also provide 8 essential amino acids! Very important if access to game was sparse.
@vitorpereira9515
@vitorpereira9515 Жыл бұрын
Here in Brazil, but specifically here in the city of Belém in the state of Pará, we have the largest Christian pilgrimage in the world, o círio de Nazaré. Every year over 2 million people from Brazil and beyond come to our city to honor Mary, the mother of our lord. And on Sunday of the círio we have a Thanksgiving lunch that we eat with friends and family. Is too good!
@mayedwards5557
@mayedwards5557 Жыл бұрын
This is my favorite show on KZbin! For real, love you Max!!!!
@TastingHistory
@TastingHistory Жыл бұрын
Thank you, May!
@4nn13h7
@4nn13h7 Жыл бұрын
My great x10 great-grandfather was on the Mayflower. I don’t think they’d have done differently if they knew how it would turn out for the Native Americans who helped them, because the early European settlers seem to have been very small-minded and self-interested. But I am very grateful for the decency that the Wôpanâak showed them. It could well be the only reason my family is alive today. Those were truly good people.
@bookswithatwist-vanvelzerp9262
@bookswithatwist-vanvelzerp9262 Жыл бұрын
I'm a publisher and have a book coming out - historical fiction - on Mary Brewster - if you are interested let me know and I can put you on the book launch list :)
@sistermary1107
@sistermary1107 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for actually telling us that the Pilgrims spend 12 years in Holland, Leiden to be precise. Yes, they fled religious prosecution in great britain and they stayed in Leiden and Amsterdam where they complained that the Dutch were 'too liberal' and thus, they had to leave for the new world because only the new world would give them religious freedom aka ... conservatism. But I'm loving this episode and your respect for the indigenous people of America. Over the years I've learned how much knowledge they had about cultivation of crops, the lands and so many complex and interesting languages.
@FriendlyKitten
@FriendlyKitten Жыл бұрын
Wild Garlic is amazing, I pick in the spring, and salt-preserve for the winter, just gets better and better as it sits in the fridge!
@goldenscales
@goldenscales Жыл бұрын
One thing I love about Tasting History is that these episodes really opens a window into an (almost) lost past! Thanks, Max!
@prof_parahelix2390
@prof_parahelix2390 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Max, I'm totally starting a prog rock group called "The Symbiotic Plant Complex" and our first album will be "Nitrogen Fixation" featuring our breakout single, "Meristem" "Guardian Cell" is the name of our experimental album of epic melodic rock with tracks including "Stomata" as a dark brooding piece featuring Gregorian chant
@bsteven885
@bsteven885 Жыл бұрын
Clever, VERY clever... 🤓😂😎 LOVE IT!
@mca4093
@mca4093 8 ай бұрын
I'm thankful that North America became what it is. Its a haven for prosperity and liberty for most people that live here. It is sobering to think of the violence and lack of mercy that exists in the world, then and now. The Pilgrims and Wampanoag provided us an example of how to live side by side.
@LazyLifeIFreak
@LazyLifeIFreak Жыл бұрын
History can be a bitter pill to swallow but its better to know of the deeds of the past so one can avoid them for the future.
@peterhaag5225
@peterhaag5225 Жыл бұрын
One thing worth remembering is Plymouth is right on the ocean so probably a lot of seafood
@fedra76it
@fedra76it Жыл бұрын
The more videos I watch - and I've been watching them all, almost since the very beginning - the more I realize what a bright man you are.
@TastingHistory
@TastingHistory Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Simona. I always appreciate you : )
@daphnea5447
@daphnea5447 10 ай бұрын
Yo I forgot we were making deer stew because I was so invested in this history retelling…! Thank you for this fabulous video.
@TastingHistory
@TastingHistory 10 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@MuttonTheDragon
@MuttonTheDragon Жыл бұрын
This is why we need another Pokémon region based on an area in the continental US... Max is stuck with a Pikachu plush instead of a turkey Pokémon that has yet to exist.
@borrellipatrick
@borrellipatrick Жыл бұрын
There's always apple pie dragon 🍏 🥧 🐲
@Mrturtlestomps
@Mrturtlestomps Жыл бұрын
Hoot wireless
@022107
@022107 Жыл бұрын
@@borrellipatrickMaybe the Appletun plush hasn't arrived at his doorstep yet.
@gregdurando3987
@gregdurando3987 Жыл бұрын
If there's a peacock pokemon, the turkey one would be the regional variant.
@black_rabbit_0f_inle805
@black_rabbit_0f_inle805 Жыл бұрын
Maybe an ancient America inspired pokemon
@Linuxpunk81
@Linuxpunk81 Жыл бұрын
I grew up in Massachusetts and Thanksgiving always felt somehow like a local holiday 😂
@TastingHistory
@TastingHistory Жыл бұрын
It was for the longest time. It didn’t really spread until the Civil War.
@Linuxpunk81
@Linuxpunk81 Жыл бұрын
@@TastingHistory ha! You're right! I grew up in fall river Massachusetts in the southeast part of the state so grew up with all these names as schools and buildings, street names and school Mascots, it's good to reflect on what actually happened and that these were real people. I live in southeast Connecticut now which has it's own unique native history that's also very intertwined with the people in the area I grew up. Great video as always!
@newcamomile
@newcamomile Жыл бұрын
Serious Eats has a great article about Thanksgiving being a 'Yankee feast' and not celebrated in the South for a long time.
@alexanderkelsey202
@alexanderkelsey202 Жыл бұрын
I’m so glad you’re doing things on indigenous foods and supporting the Wôpanâôk language project! I know a few words, “I love you” is Kuwámanush (or Kuwômônush)
@Cheez-It92
@Cheez-It92 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for talking both about the good and the bad in these historical events. So many people only want to talk about one or the other. The highs we should celebrate and the tragedies we should mourn.
@MalO.ver1.0.x
@MalO.ver1.0.x Жыл бұрын
Man,... What is better than coming home from a 9,5h shift, taking a shower, grabbing a nice cup of cappuccino and seeing a brand new video from Max in the notifications.
@MalO.ver1.0.x
@MalO.ver1.0.x Жыл бұрын
@Sarafina Summers When I drink only one of it, right after I come home, my body processed the caffeine when I need to go to bed (it's also a rather small cup because an entire mug would keep me up for hours after I went to bed >_>). So it's a matter of how fast and how much I allow myself some cappuccino. lol (however I'm still salty about my body changing when I turned 20, because I could drink coffee and energy drinks on mass without having any issues falling asleep what so ever, and I'm talking here about 6 large mugs of coffee in the middle of the night 🥲)
@MalO.ver1.0.x
@MalO.ver1.0.x Жыл бұрын
@Sarafina Summers Also, I usually drink green tea after I come home (love that stuff), so I won't get tempted with drinking my other favourite beverage, cappuccino. T_T
@kitchentroll5868
@kitchentroll5868 Жыл бұрын
Regarding dry beans and pre-soaking, it really comes down to humidity levels during storage. In former times, before the plastic age, beans were generally purchased in mass quantities packaged in cloth bags. That is not to say that modern plastic bags are fool-proof in every regard, but the problems presented by old cloth bags are less frequently encountered. Even the commonly seen plastic bag of dried beans can be riddled with microscopic perforations that allow humidity to damage the dried beans within. On account of this, one can buy several bags of dried beans and get vastly differing results from each bag. I, myself, have encountered grocery-bought bags of beans that never fully re-hydrated even with 10 hours of cooking. With this in mind, consider that in a warm, humid environment, such as the many-rivered East Coast of the USA (be it Florida or the Mid-Atlantic region), if not kept with great care, the outermost layer of a dried bean can become partially re-hydrated and modify the bean starches, this can later become dehydrated as weather changes, resulting in a sort of surface layer on affected beans that acts like a seal against deeper re-hydration during future use. My paternal grandmother would refer to such beans as "old". In her thinking, the only way to get around this problem was parboiling the beans in UNSALTED water, removing the pot from the heat, and leaving them to soak over night (either under refrigeration or in a cold room). Here, the heat is required to re-modify the affected starch layer sealing the bean. A superior method she found was to use a pressure cooker to cook "old" beans. The science of this is simple, the high pressure first fractures the modified starch layer and forces moisture deeper into the beans.
@richdiddens4059
@richdiddens4059 Жыл бұрын
Another factor is the hardness of the water. Where I live I've found a rounded tablespoon of baking soda added to the hot soak water also helps. You just have to thoroughly rinse the beans after the soak.
Жыл бұрын
Up here in Québec, the first nations have a very similar dish called sagamité. It was a dish that was served in ceremonies to celebrate welcomed guests. It eventually became a staple meal of French Canadian settlers. It was also popular amongst Cajuns which transferred the recipe orally and was also prepared to feed slaves in Louisiana.
Жыл бұрын
There's actually a restaurant here with the same name as the dish on a Huron Wendat reserve that promotes this dish and First Nation and French Canadian cuisine in general.
@jjtacular
@jjtacular Жыл бұрын
Excellent video! "We Still Live Here: Âs Nutayuneân" is an excellent documentary on the revitalization of the Wampanoag language that people should watch, if it has not already been mentioned here!
@sophiophile
@sophiophile Жыл бұрын
Glad you mentioned the three sisters. The same concepts are great for home gardens (though you can use other plants than corn for your nitrogen rich tall plant)
@hijodelaisla275
@hijodelaisla275 Жыл бұрын
The benefit (I'm told) of soaking the beans overnight is that it creates consistency in the cooking time. Commercial beans are sometimes of mixed ages and dryness, and some will cook more quickly than others. Overnight soaking is supposed to even this process out.
@ragnkja
@ragnkja Жыл бұрын
More than that, it makes the beans gentler on the digestive system by leaching out some of the oligosaccharides, which our bodies can’t digest but some of our gut bacteria can. At least it does if you discard the soaking water.
@KyleDornez
@KyleDornez Жыл бұрын
"Lifelong subscription with 20 day money back guarantee" is the most ominous advertisement I've heard in a while.
@mattschmitz2566
@mattschmitz2566 Жыл бұрын
I am now convinced you're trying to drop the hard tack clip into every video. This makes me very happy.
@rlt9492
@rlt9492 Жыл бұрын
So even though he used the European Kitchen Sage (Salvia officinalis), a type of sage is something that would’ve been used, because species like Nettleleaf Sage (Salvia urticifolia) and Lyre-Leaf Sage (Salvia lyrata) are native to eastern North America. And while the aromas aren’t exactly they same, they are definitely similar. Plus, Salvia officinalis could have been traded.
@blanchekonieczka9935
@blanchekonieczka9935 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful explanation of the three sisters. Learned about this decades ago and used the knowledge in my garden to grow the best corn I ever had. Corn is a heavy nitrogen feeder, so I always planted legumes between the rows to fix more nitrogen into the soil. The only squash I planted was zucchini because my husband (ex husband now) didn't like other squashes. This was a wonderful episode. Thank you for all you do to entertain and educate us!
@aprilcoursey4533
@aprilcoursey4533 Жыл бұрын
First Nation's People have a definite right to be angered about their injustices. I'm happy you did clarify that the Separatists did mostly enjoy peace, and promote it alongside the natives. It's a terrible thing that people before and after effed things up. Thanksgiving really was a time we should all aspire to, with peace, gratitude, and love for our fellow man no matter their creed.
@gyppygirl2021
@gyppygirl2021 Жыл бұрын
Every person is capable of good or evil. What side they fall on is their choice, and while it is more difficult to do good, I applaud those who make that choice. Too many people focus on just one side of a story when there are multiple angles to peruse. Nowadays, I frequently see people rejecting Thanksgiving as a symbol of genocide, but that's ignoring what the holiday was founded on - a feast that drew two peoples together, even if it was a temporary union.
@thebeesknees745
@thebeesknees745 Жыл бұрын
Injustices occurred on both sides, my dear April. I had family on both sides of Fallen Timbers. Descended from Hokolesqua, makes me Shawnee, another neighboring Algonquin speaking tribe. We were not nice people before the colonists showed up. We enslaved other tribes, scalped women and children, and tortured captive men to death. When the Spanish showed up, we traded slaves for knives and guns. The slaves, our neighboring tribes, ended up sloshing through mercury-silver pits, barefoot, for the Spanish (called the patio process) in New Mexico and Arizona. There was a mass grave dug up in the Montana region. 350 men, women, and children all brutally killed, scalped, then buried in a small revene. Before European contact. Natives were not nice people. They earned the nickname "savage" for a reason. My tribe had hair styles developed specifically for scalping, with each warrior having distinct features to identify him. Much like the samurai burning incense in their helmets before battle, it was made fore easy removal on a battlefield once defeated.
@gyppygirl2021
@gyppygirl2021 Жыл бұрын
@@thebeesknees745 Humans and history are never black and white. There is always more to the story than what is immediately apparent. Thank you for sharing this - it's an important thing to consider when looking back on what we know of history.
@thebeesknees745
@thebeesknees745 Жыл бұрын
There is craziness happening today within each tribe. A lot of real racism exist inside reservations between those of full blood and those of us who don't have enough to meet their requirements. Its funny that the tribes forgot what their cultures are and replaced their languages, food, dances, etc for blood quantum. There are 3 federally recognized Shawnee tribes, and then there are dozens of unrecognized tribes. The 3 feddie tribes are full of government Indians that live on welfare and do absolutely nothing, meanwhile claiming they are the only Shawnee. Thankfully we have DNA testing now which throws egg in their faces. Can you believe the Shawnee are hiding their language from anyone not enrolled in their tribe? And they wonder why only 200 speak the language. They earned their collapsing houses, alcoholism, drugs, prostitutes, casinos, etc. They do it to themselves. The rest of us Shawnee live in nice houses, work full time jobs, and don't throw our heritage around for brownie points.
@DeRocco21
@DeRocco21 3 ай бұрын
the virginian colony was amost destroyed by the pahwatan confederacy when they destroy over 10% of its inhabitants.
@asmodiusjones9563
@asmodiusjones9563 Жыл бұрын
Although it’s not clear in historical records, I always interpreted the Wampana men going out and hunting the 5 deer to be their attempt to save face for the pilgrims. They went, obviously expecting something big (as Max said, quite possibly a battle, but something that required a feast one way or another), and must have realized the pilgrims didn’t have enough food to feed them. So they went out and got some local game. This is much different than bringing delicacies for a feast.
@ragnkja
@ragnkja Жыл бұрын
“While we’re here, we might as well join them, but then we really should hunt because they only have enough food for fifty people, not a hundred and fifty.”
@silverpyramid9251
@silverpyramid9251 Жыл бұрын
@@ragnkja I always find it funny that people who want to run down the settlers forget that they were mostly rural island peoples that knew very well how to farm, hunt, and FISH. They are always played off as city folk who came thinking they were going to hit up McDonald's when they arrived! lol
@necrogenesis1981
@necrogenesis1981 Жыл бұрын
A lot of people want to ignore the negative parts of Thanksgiving because it makes them feel "uncomfortable", there's a dark side to absolutely everything, it needs to be discussed.
@gyppygirl2021
@gyppygirl2021 Жыл бұрын
At the same time, there's two sides to every story, and I think it's important to be thankful for the positive side as well - just don't focus entirely on it to the exclusion of the bad stuff!
@SplatterInker
@SplatterInker Жыл бұрын
@@gyppygirl2021 While I agree, surely the focus on the "bad stuff" is an over-correction caused by the fact it was blatently ignored and whitewashed for so long? You know, if the shoe was on the other foot, would you be complaining that people shouldn't just be focusing on all the good sides to it, if it had been predominately told as a horror story heretofor? Maybe you would, but I think a lot of people wouldn't. I think as humans we have a natural propensity to like to think of whoever we identify most with as innocent, or misunderstood. Compassion isn't a bad thing, but it's important to realise when things aren't an overwhelming dig or accusation, at those people we identify with, but simply a corrective to past viewpoints which have over-romanticised them, and rounded off all the hard edges.
@gyppygirl2021
@gyppygirl2021 Жыл бұрын
@@SplatterInker If it had been the other way around, of course I would have a similar opinion. I can't speak for the people around me, but every story needs to be told in a balanced fashion, and saying "it wasn't that bad" when countless people died is just cruel. I prefer to focus on the positive side of things, but I am not above criticizing those who sugarcoat the truth.
@Naomi-pq6tv
@Naomi-pq6tv Жыл бұрын
I was always more interested in learning about the Native American side of things (and in general) than I ever was about the rest of the America history. Sadly it was never really taught in school.
@photina78
@photina78 Жыл бұрын
There was a lot of extremely negative things going on among Native Americans before the Europeans showed up: massacres, slavery, human sacrifices, women required to have sex with their husbands' male guests, etc. Nobody wants to talk about that either. The first Thanksgiving was a positive event amidst a period of peace and good relationships, so let's not try to blot out the positive things that happened.
@ericthompson3982
@ericthompson3982 Жыл бұрын
Actually, wild garlic just grows in my yard. When I mow my lawn it smells like a salad.
@gyppygirl2021
@gyppygirl2021 Жыл бұрын
Lucky!
@merrileeread966
@merrileeread966 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this one, I am a descendant of Joshua Tefft and his wife , Sara, Wampanoag. He was captured during King Phillips War, he chose to protect his wife and children. He is known as the only Englishman to be drawn and quartered by the British in this country. When his father went to claim hi remains he was beheaded
@sbrai001
@sbrai001 Жыл бұрын
The history of the first Thanksgiving is such a testament to the work that goes into choosing and maintaining peace despite the circumstances of the past. The very little we know about Tisquantum gives us a small idea of how exceptional of a human being he was. What I shame I had to learn about him after college.
@gljm
@gljm Жыл бұрын
Having been on the reproduction of the Mayflower years ago when it was docked in Provincetown, MA, you are amazed at how incredibly small it was, and what a really perilous and frightening journey the Pilgrims had to make to get to America.
@DavidHall-ge6nn
@DavidHall-ge6nn Жыл бұрын
You put a lot of heart -- and research -- into this one, Max. Perfectly done!
@astra1653
@astra1653 Жыл бұрын
Language reclaimations are so wonderful, and I'm glad to see you talk about and support this project.
@morgangrant6847
@morgangrant6847 Жыл бұрын
As someone from south eastern MA who visited Plymouth Plantation every school year for field trips, this was a fun video to watch! It’s interesting how we learn all this information in school whereas others don’t! Just not something I’ve ever thought about. Also side note, the pronunciation of the names was very exaggerated for what you hear in MA! Made me giggle lol
@bellablue5285
@bellablue5285 Жыл бұрын
Feel the same way about Jamestown, I was in VA at the time and we learned quite a bit about the history (good and bad), but it's always strange to see when people are surprised by something I learned in 4th grade.
@SessaV
@SessaV Жыл бұрын
I love that you're supporting this cause! My grandma was Ojibwe and my grandpa was Algonquin and I've been trying to learn more. Basically I can say hello and thank you, and that was something i learned as a child lol.
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. Жыл бұрын
The Pilgrims really said: “Every saint has been a sinner...”
@danacarpender2287
@danacarpender2287 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Max, for talking about the Saints and the Strangers. So many people are sure the Pilgrims were intolerant of anyone who did not share their religion, but more than half of the 102 were Strangers. Indeed, my ancestors, John Alden and Priscilla Mullins, had the first mixed marriage in Plymouth Colony -- she was a Saint, he was a Stranger.
@BruceHorton
@BruceHorton Жыл бұрын
I found this brilliant episode more relevant because 3 of my ancestors (Rev. Brewster, Thomas Rogers, and Stephen Hopkins) were aboard the Mayflower in 1620. My Grandfather Hopkins was an informal ambassador to the Indian tribes since he had been exploring New England from around 1610. He knew the area well and even logged Samoset when the later came to Plymouth to welcome the Pligrims. I am fascinated by Squanto's story and it is a shame some English literary agent did not recognize the value of this saga.
@praetorfenix69
@praetorfenix69 Жыл бұрын
Max, there is a *very* important reason to soak your beans overnight, and that is that it removes a lot of the phytates that cause flatulence!
@TastingHistory
@TastingHistory Жыл бұрын
But that’s the fun part of eating beans!
@jacquelyns9709
@jacquelyns9709 Жыл бұрын
When you actually start cooking beans throw in several bay leaves. That helps with the flatulence problem as well.
@Justanotherconsumer
@Justanotherconsumer Жыл бұрын
“Beans, beans the music fruit. The more you eat the more you eat the more you toot. The more you toot the better you feel, so eat beans at every meal!” -An important cultural artifact of 20th century Americana
@therealHaml0rd
@therealHaml0rd Жыл бұрын
You really ought to try Tsalagi frybread! Down in the south Appalachians, it's one of the greatest Cherokee staples ever! Basic three-sisters-soup goes very well with it as well!
@hollybryant721
@hollybryant721 Жыл бұрын
Loved this episode. Sad parts of our History with some great to come out of it. So much hardships. The symbiotic plant of the 3 Sisters is something new I learned as well as Squanto being sold & learning English from that time in captivity. Definitely do not remember this bring taught in school. Be kind, be courteous, be grateful, and have a wonderful Thanksgiving everyone!
@Obsidian_Butterfly_xo
@Obsidian_Butterfly_xo 3 ай бұрын
As a fellow Native American Indian i just wanna say thank-you for this video and sharing it to the world *Hugs* , it's very important for others to learn our Culture & History which through food , our language etc , please LEARN your history and do your research
@hiddendesire3076
@hiddendesire3076 Жыл бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="67">1:07</a> Except for how Thanksgiving was more of a harvest festival to give thanks for the harvest and for surviving the year, while praying they survive the winter.
@ragnkja
@ragnkja Жыл бұрын
Like so many other harvest-thanksgivings traditions, including those the settlers would have brought with them from Europe. The traditional date of harvest-thanksgiving in Northern Europe is Michaelmas, 29th of September.
@lisahoshowsky4251
@lisahoshowsky4251 Жыл бұрын
I’d really like someone to cover how Canada came to have thanksgiving as well and why it’s earlier, the focus always seems to be on the US one. Also, I did my firth three sisters garden this summer! My squash never fruited but I’m still calling is a success considering I’ve never done corn before and it’s been forever since I did beans!
@ragnkja
@ragnkja Жыл бұрын
Harvest celebrations naturally follow the harvest, and when winter comes earlier the harvest has to be earlier as well.
@judithcoloma613
@judithcoloma613 Жыл бұрын
@@SamAronow My in-laws in Canada celebrate Thanksgiving in mid to late October. It's not too much about Pilgrims though. They usually have baked ham instead of turkey. Fun fact, my 8th-grade history teacher told us that the Mayflower was supposed to dock in Jamestown, Virginia. A storm blew its way off course and they wound up landing on Cape Cod. Also, Basque fishermen had been fishing for cod along the New England and Canadian Maritime for 300 years at least. They would then dry and salt the cod and sail back to the Iberian Pennisula and sell a monopoly of bacalao.
@ragnkja
@ragnkja Жыл бұрын
@@SamAronow It was that particular group’s first harvest in the new land. Harvest-thanksgiving feasts have a very long and rich history in Europe, and presumably most other parts of the world, with a few obvious exceptions such as Antarctica.
@rideswift
@rideswift Жыл бұрын
If you do some research, youll find that Thanksgiving actually started in Canada, Not the US. The Pilgrim story is the first documented American Thanksgiving
@mindstalk
@mindstalk Жыл бұрын
My guess: it's earlier in Canada because the growing season is shorter and harvest comes earlier.
@silentwinged
@silentwinged Жыл бұрын
There was a miniseries a while back called Saints and Strangers that does a pretty good job of telling this story as well. Thank you for this video - I would love to see more indigenous content! As an Anishinaabe who's trying to learn more about my own culture, I love seeing our collective history being shared with everyone! Maybe we could get videos on frybread or manoomin someday?
@mandygould5511
@mandygould5511 Жыл бұрын
I'm Australian we don't have Thanksgiving, it was so good to hear the authentic story. I love your channel Max always so entertaining and informative.
@tktyga77
@tktyga77 Жыл бұрын
Nice to see you doing a native dish outside the preserved snacks, always nice to see some such representation, also do see Canada's Thanksgiving, having happened last month on the second Mondays.
@GrandeSalvatore96
@GrandeSalvatore96 Жыл бұрын
Awww Pikachu looking his best for thanksgiving 🥰
@bakedpotato1717
@bakedpotato1717 Жыл бұрын
Max, thank you for being here and doing this with such love, effort, and passion. Your videos are helping me through a bad time in my life, and I appreciate you and Jose. When I don’t feel like smiling, I turn on your videos because they always get a smile out of me (and I learn!)
@Traci_Websinger
@Traci_Websinger Жыл бұрын
Squee! Totally nerding out, not only on Max's wonderful video (also thanks to Jose!), but also on the comments and all that people are sharing. Love you people! 💜
@lavenderlylin
@lavenderlylin Жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for this episode all of my life! Thank you so much, Max!
@PoppycockPrincess100
@PoppycockPrincess100 Жыл бұрын
When I was little, my mother and I tried converting my childhood sandbox into a three sisters garden. Sadly, it didn't work out too well. The plants did grow but they didn't produce any vegetables.
@TheGallantDrake
@TheGallantDrake Жыл бұрын
The nutrient balance is tricky. My mom needed a few years of growing plants and adjusting the soil before the vegetable garden began producing anything. Good work for a first time!
@thecook8964
@thecook8964 Жыл бұрын
Seem to remember we were told in school, the native Americans taught the immigrants to put fish in as fertilizer when they planted corn, etc.
@ZDKzap
@ZDKzap Жыл бұрын
as a Cape Codder, thank you for highlighting the issues and history of our native population!
@karimonster
@karimonster Жыл бұрын
A lot of us homesteaders still use the three sisters growing technique for our corn, beans, and squash :) When we get to spring planting in 2023, I'll tag you in the process. Granted, I grow popcorn and not sweet corn, but the method is still the same!
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