THE TRUTH ABOUT BUCERIAS JOEL: Cuatro Estaciones Owners Speak Out

[@cheryljones3596]

Many more people in Bucerias are coming aboard. The last 2 developments he has been involved with are is serious trouble.

[@dp100951]

I had a condo built in another part of Mexico and I can tell you the problems discussed here are very common. Having lived in Mexico over 17 years, I would not advise anyone to have a house or condo built here. The culture is completely different than in the U.S. or Canada. If there is a way for a builder, developer or real estate agent to screw you they will find it. Contracts in Mexico mean nothing and what you end up with may be very different than what you thought you were going to receive. If you move to Mexico rent a place first until you get a read on the culture and that takes a year or more. Find someone that as been here a while to help guide you in the transition to the Mexican way of doing things. Best of luck to you.

[@peterairborne]

We considered purchasing there but choose a different property so glad we didn’t get caught up in this mess

[@torre_de_mar]

I'm so sorry this has happened to you all!!! Heart breaking!!! But thank you for sharing so that others can learn. I've been building with Menesse in Playa del Carmen. While they are a reputable builder, there has for sure been unethicalness activity. I'm finally getting my property after 1.5 years of delays. And Mexlaw has been extremely helpful in representing me.

[@enriquebaez4727]

I've been watching his videos for a while now and always had a bad gut feeling about this guy I'm surprise it took this long for a video to come out people need to expose this guy and put out more testimonials I'm researching on buying in that area we just need to get local legal advice

[@lb9007]

Holy sh*t, thanks for coming out about your unfortunate situation. Best of luck in coming to a resolution.

[@KJInvesting]

Exactly!!

[@OfftoMexico11]

I spoke with Joel about purchasing a property, I live in Canada, and our one and only conversation went sideways really quickly as he tried to sellme a different property than I had called to discuss? I found it very unprofessional, hung up and knew this wasn't a good idea. I hope those that are affected get things straightened out quickly, so sad.

[@cherylslawwork]

I live on Estaciones and I’ve seen the building process. No one should ever pay more than 20% to hold a unit. Always be careful giving any money upfront in mexico or anywhere. If I pay my mechanic all the money upfront I guarantee I won’t get what I pay for. Why people buy from foreign developers is beyond me. We bought our home from a Mexican. Consider renting for min 6 months before buying and especially if you’re buying pre construction. I would never buy somewhere(especially another country)I hadn’t lived to see the reality. Good luck

[@Larrymopac]

That’s why when you want to buy in a foreign country you buy from realtors from that country. Someone who has experience with how everything works. I’m a Mexican citizen and I would never buy from a foreigner.

[@MartinInSD]

Thanks for sharing your stories. That sounds like a very tense situation there. I hope you’re eventually able to get things worked out.

[@olgamesojazzpaintings4206]

you have just saved my savings. thank you. He looks so trustworthy and honest that l was going to contact him about a condo he is selling or perhaps building a small house for me. i think you were god sent to me just at the wright time where l could have made a biggest mistake of my life. thank you for issuing this video. It will help a lot of unsuspecting older folks. especially little old ladies such as myself. I wish you will get justice, but in the meantime I know you are going through a rough stressful patch that you don't deserve at your age. love to all.

[@reonnehaslett]

So glad this video helped you, Olga. I am an "elder" lady who invested my life savings into a condo at Cuatro Estaciones based on Bucerias Joel's KZbin videos. Chalk it up to naivete. That was back in Jan 2022. It will be 3 years this January and I still don't have my title, nor the rooftop, parking garage or other contractual things that were advertised in the sales literature. And I'm not the only single senior lady in the building who invested our life savings. My advice? Take your time and do a lot of research on the developer and the development before you buy. And as video says, make sure the developer has funding for the project. If it's a presale, only agree to small payments as you watch the progress of the project. Don't buy into scams of paying everything up front for a discount or other amenities.

[@LynnethBruce]

The sign of a lack of intelligence is to accept one side of a story without investigating the other side.

[@luisr5887]

@@LynnethBruce have you investigated the other side

[@LynnethBruce]

@@luisr5887 Of course!

[@1962-e4y]

@@LynnethBruceit’s your son in law

[@YesItsMeGuys68]

It's really unfortunate but ...THIS is quite common here in the bay area with developers. MANY horror stories . When purchasing property thats Going to be built . You must look into the builders history .

[@NatureGirl941]

Unless they have scrubbed all comments. Notice no negative reviews? Scrubbed. Also, don't have many good reviews, do they? You would think someone "in construction " decades would have SOME reviews that aren't from personal friends and friends turned investors.

[@djkelly2551]

Thanks for posting this fraud alert. I have watched this guy on You Tube, off and on for a few years. Did not get any sense of warm Karma from this red neck carpenter with the shifty eyes. He must have a trail of fraud in Canada (Alberta?), any evidence from there would be non-admissible under Mexican law. However, never hurts to have extra shit to defame his company. KZbin is a great platform for leveraging his pocket book. Hope things get resolved as best as possible and this unethical thief is forced to pay up.

[@sasha6716]

Realtor Alecia Masters is an incredible one! She works mainly in Puerto Vallarta and surrounding areas, I believe. She's an American living in Vallarta and has been successfully working for many years. I know of quite a few people who have purchased properties through her and rave about her.

[@BuceriasRodHardy]

Heard he is having a Pharmacy going in there on the ground floor. No restaurant as he promised.

[@escapedfromchanada8250]

Wow! This is bad... I almost invested with him but we ended up finding a different pre-construction condo in Bucerias. By law they are allowed to extend move in dates by 6 months. It did take that long for our building. I absolutely love the condo we bought but after a year we are still waiting for our deed as well. There was problems with the Nayarit Mayor, one got fired, the other was temporary and didn't want to touch anything, and now this one is supposed to get things moving. I sure hope so. Every time I go past your place, before seeing this video, I felt sorry for anyone who bought in there, it is not a great location and doesn't look very appealing. I always think resale when I buy a place, I really hope things get fixed for you all. I live here full time and am very happy with not having to pay rent. My condo was a bit higher end but we got great discounts for buying preconstruction. Mostly Canadians bought into our condo as well. Just behind the La Comer. Great location and very nice neighborhood. Double security.

[@rezmatez590]

Elena Nevza just posted a video that may help folks looking for some honest idea of what it means to buy property in Mexico.

[@NatureGirl941]

Guess she should also check out who she recommends!

[@reonnehaslett]

Elena Nevza is why I bought at Cuatro Estaciones in the first place. She was promoting the place on her channel with Haley Price Gonzalez in 2021.

[@L3tsgo9]

The unfortunate thing with this video is that these people are not lying. The experiences are true. They have no reason to lie. They only want what was sold to them. Nothing more. The developer is not who he portrays on KZbin. What you all see is his KZbin alter ego. He’s a very good actor. He should have watched this video before he wrote his statement as he has been miss informed about what was filmed. I hope all gets rectified.

[@jonf2126]

No matter where you buy or who you're buying from, get your OWN Mexican attorney and OWN inspector and don't trust anyone. And buying presale is not a good idea. And don't sign anything you don't understand (in English or Spanish) without getting someone to help you. If outside attorneys or inspectors are not allowed for whatever reason, do not buy. Sorry you're having issues.

[@rafaelescalante1289]

Scary stuff. I am very sorry and hope that all of this is rectified.

[@michaelzee1194]

I agree, this guy is popping up all these ridiculous businesses, (bike rentals???), I would stay clear. He does it in Mexico because you can get away with it.....I'm sure he's gone through several construction crews, place looks like a mess!!

[@Deltron6060]

I believe the bike rental place is now up for sale.

[@AdiMaeBucerias]

And tell me why a bike rental/tour business is ridiculous?

[@jessecuster2250]

@@AdiMaeBucerias Another scam of his. How he cleans money.

[@MUY-BN]

I'm not sure who produced this video, but considering the high quality and possible inside info about this mess, I have a good idea. Hopefully a follow-up video is in the works with a legal expert that can shed some light on who is at fault in this situation. Many characters invoved! Developer, contractors, realtor,city and state inspectors, attorneys that created sales and or amended contracts,title company(if that's available),owners and their rights, etc. This would be confusing in the US, I can't imagine that process as a foreigner in Mexico.

[@jculleeny]

Since our video was released 4 days ago, locals on the street recognize me and ask me questions. Clearly their sympathies are with we owners. It’s nice to see that people see who the bad guy is. It’s also nice to hear that they think Joel is a mentiroso in english, liar.

[@Dwclancy]

Is it true you are being investigated for criminal activity here in Mexico ? I heard from a friend of a friend you were served or visited by an investigator. Can you comment on that?

[@markgca1019]

Thanks for sharing your stories.

[@luisr5887]

Wholly S$it, i knew this was too good to be true, at the last minute I backed out, sorry you guys have to go through this, he is such a slick talker, maybe that's the real reason he left Calgary. Everybody has to tell the people in Bucerias that know him what a thief he is. How can he do this!

[@AdiMaeBucerias]

You aren’t getting the full story. These people are spreading lies about my dad, please do not believe it. This is only one side of the story.

[@Deltron6060]

​@@AdiMaeBucerias Patiently waiting for the other side of the story. It looks BAD right now. I'd tell him to reply sooner rather than later.

[@reonnehaslett]

@@Deltron6060 And at the very least show up with documentation when requested by attorneys and the courts. He's had plenty of opportunities to come to the table over the past year.

[@bflower601]

So, he knew that you had , as a group secured legal counsel and just ignored your requests for these contractual agreements to be reviewed? ​@@reonnehaslett.........I guess maybe if the developer ignored you? You would go away?..... Lolol.......pretty scary. But......I think creating a video on the platform where he advertises his projects is a good start to getting resolution.

[@luisr5887]

@@AdiMaeBucerias And are you being 100% honest?, do you know100% what is going on? What will you do differently if you find out some of these people are not spreading lies? Why does your dad not respond? That on itself is a bit incriminadating?

[@goldenretriever6261]

Do they have building codes in Mexico?

[@NatureGirl941]

Absolutely. Mexico city has actually some of the strictest codes in the world for seismic activity.

[@MUY-BN]

I noticed numerous red flags during the construction of this project that were posted on Joel and Paul's MTM KZbin channel. Frustration was evident between Joel and the contractors ( the first contractor was replaced during construction). The last KZbin post from CE was a awkward move in day with frustrated owners. I always wondered why the channel never returned to CE. Let's hope the issues these folks have will be resolved in a matter that is satisfactory to both sides. The Daughter's rant isn't helping anyone and I doubt Joel's attorney would advise him to comment on KZbin.

[@davidkrueger4252]

I wondered where the channel went and now I know why it went away

[@rogerclark3]

So sad but very common. Probably in the end, wherever is sitting on that lot is what you own.. Or took out a loan for... Old saying, Buyer beware...

[@BadBunnyBad-y9h]

⭐Bucerias Joel is a scammer! DO NOT INVEST ANY MONEY WITH THIS GUY! He's ripped off so many locals i cant count how many. Ask around town, the guy is always in someones pocket looking for real estate. BEWARE. 💕

[@Dwclancy]

It’s interesting all the profiles here aka Bad Bunny seem to be hiding behind aliases. Is that because you are scared of this guy?

[@SimoneSchaefer-x2e]

The truth will come out sooner or later. I have mixed feelings at this point , i am not to judge. I just hope this issue gets resolved and everyone can be happy in P.V

[@barbara9120]

I sure hope you are able to get justice in the Mexican courts. I won't bother mentioning how important it is to ALWAYS have legal advice when buying anything, and certainly before signing contracts that you do not understand. I'm glad you are posting this so other people are forewarned. Hopefully this fellow Joel will get what is coming to him.

[@ElGatoMarcus]

I will NOT buy anything unless I can walk through it first and have my own inspector and my own lawyer. This is true in the United States and more so in Mexico. These people made so many mistakes that it sounds like they are suffering from cognitive decline. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@NatureGirl941]

I notice too late how much better mexican devs do things like finish building first and smaller down payments on presale and up front written literature of what's included and what's not.

[@abcdef-cf9zv]

ElGatoMarcus. How nice of you to comment like this but of course you are VERY clever and think it appropriate to make these people feel worse than their reality is.

[@Michael-Rooney007]

Thank you for the video! Clarifies what a con Joel is! Not the first, not the last unfortuantely!

[@draelisedubois3714]

I have bought land and build in the area with reputable developpers and honestly, its really rare that the planned timeline works out...its almost expected. Plus, in those years, I dont know if you are aware but the building material doubled in price. So a lot of the predicted or planned prices are way off after that raise in material....and gains from many builders I know just wont even cover cost of construction and paying the employees...I am not saying its what happened here, but its good to keep in mind.

[@NatureGirl941]

They stated during c19 that didn't affect delivery schedule and most materials were already purchased, so that does not apply to this shituation. I only wish a delay was the only issue encountered. Every time issues were raised it turns into personal attacks and complete lack of what a business transaction would look like. 'It's Mexico ' is a frequent excuse. I've seen plenty of Mexican architecture that is amazing but for this Canadian it's an excuse when there were multitudes of severe deficiencies. Guess that's what happens when you hire budget labor that build roads/bridge projects to save $ and not housing crews.

[@Deltron6060]

We we're under contract and decided to back out after seeing the location. Looks like we dodged a bullet. I hope all of you owners can get this situation made right. Is he still trying to raise money for his "landbank" thing?

[@jculleeny]

Yes he is!

[@Deltron6060]

​@@jculleeny Have any of the commercial spaces at CE been occupied yet?

[@jculleeny]

@ pharmacy is in build out now, now restaurant tenant. The third retail spot he turned into his office. He used HOA funds to furnish his office. 🤥

[@DianeMcmanus]

Wendy, they also installed your fridge opening the wrong way and the Pool wasn't heated and too cold to swim.

[@jonf2126]

Fridges pretty much always open from the left (hinges on the right) unless you ask them to flip it. I flipped many for my homes in the US. My Mexican fridge (Whirlpool) SEEMED like it was set up to flip like those in the US, but lacked 2 key things. I had to improvise, which included drilling a hole that should have been there, but wasn't. Many things in Mexico are not like in the US.

[@NatureGirl941]

The handles are reversible and fixed. Pool now has heat....it has been redone 2x already for rebar rusting through. ​@@jonf2126

[@freedomuncovered]

Yeah the pool not being heated is not uncommon.

[@valm.5243]

BUYER BEWARE! This is so sad. Who can you trust?

[@vsummers33]

After living in Central American and selling Condo's of new builds, it is not uncommon for shoddy work and delays. You have to be very careful who you buy from, most developers in Latin America complete their projects to about 80% of completion and consider it done. Then it takes another year to get the rest of the work completed, eventually, it will get done. However, buyer beware. Rent first, then after getting to know the projects and the Real Estate market, get a good attorney to complete the transaction.

[@NatureGirl941]

@@vsummers33 is it common to have different layouts and missing windows? And a dev that has employees getting in fist fights, employees stealing from new owners (a purse was stolen, not even an apology given), and is it also common to fear monger and treat your clients like crap including name calling? Is it also common the dev keeps administration 2 years and manages rentals but then dumps clients who thought they had months of bookings only to be dumped and the rental calendar blocked off to persecute the owner, resulting in months of revenue lost?

[@NatureGirl941]

The answer is no. There are so many FINE builders in Mexico....I regret every day thinking a Canadian would be honest and have good communication because they spoke my language. I was admittedly nieve.

[@Dwclancy]

@@NatureGirl941maybe you should ask for a refund? But I don’t know. If was the one being targeted is probably be suing you now. I hear that Mexico has tough defamation laws. Sure hope you have your back up to support your claims. Best of luck !🤞

[@vsummers33]

@@NatureGirl941 Yes, everything you're speaking of can happen in Latin America, regardless of where the Builder is from. That's why most Ex Pats don't last long in Latin America. Personally, I wouldn't buy any real estate in Mexico without living there for at least a year investigating the builders, projects and securing a good Real Estate Attorney for the transaction.

[@renecaspian9396]

The guy wont last long now in Bucerias. His name: Joel Goralski. Is now known as Senor KA KA. 😲👎 His day in court will be a victory. 💜

[@fresasol9856]

I feel so bad for you guys!!

[@lifewith9cats153]

Sorry you're going through this situation. I watched Joel's channel when he first started but was not interested in Bucerias so stopped watching a long time ago. I've read that English speaking people from other countries use their language as a way to make English speaking buyers comfortable and they almost always inflate the prices. Research, research, and more research is an absolute necessity when buying property but especially when buying in a foreign country with a language barrier. Presales are also usually a bad idea unless possibly with a reputable, well established developer. Anything can go wrong at any time. Heck, the developer could go bankrupt before the project is even completed. I wish you all the best.

[@NatureGirl941]

Absolutely

[@JoeDirt-ix3qz]

Now Paul bailing makes sense.

[@bflower601]

Yes, I agree. Moving to Mexico was turning into advertising. I'm glad Paul and Daniella saw that they were being manipulated for someone else's agenda for self promotion. Their channel is so much better now.

[@cassieporter6092]

Un agente inmobiliario normalmente no te ayudaría una vez que ya estés en el proceso de preventa. Pero sí, un agente inmobiliario podría ayudarte a vender la unidad ahora. Es bastante común hacer una cesión de derechos de un contrato de compraventa y cualquier agente certificado puede ayudarte con eso. Aunque, ahora con este video que hiciste, podría ser un poco más dificil. Por otro lado, la mayoría de los contratos de preventa tienen una cláusula que te deja cancelar el trato si el desarrollador logra revender la unidad, con una pequeña penalización, claro, hablando de lo más común. Y también, todos los compradores firman un documento contra el lavado de dinero cuando compran una propiedad. Este documento no es nada raro, y normalmente te lo piden bastante rápido. Lo que sí es que parece que ya tuvieron los documentos en sus manos un buen rato para revisarlos.

[@NatureGirl941]

Yes this dev charges 20% fee to sell. When I renegotiated that he would not keep his word and sign at my agreed 7% fee. So totally intended to waste my time.

[@NatureGirl941]

Ps we were not given the anti money laundering document until months some cases more than a year for others

[@davidkrueger4252]

Can you post the Spanish contract he sent you to sign right away translated to English ?

[@NatureGirl941]

Please contact the attorney listed at the end of this video for it

[@daviddelavari6371]

Whree are the videos and Pictures of all these problems you keep talking about . Itts weird that all I see is people talking and no picutres of all the issues.

[@NatureGirl941]

​@thekid7599 if we had added all the data this video would have to be a series.

[@1962-e4y]

We also live at CE and he has also ruined our dream

[@bflower601]

This is terrible!!!! I am so glad I saw this video!!!!....... What is worse is that it is a Canadian! I am ashamed to think that a fellow Canadian would prey on other people's trust. From start to finish of this project....it was his responsibility to deliver what was promised in the contract......but instead? Gaslighting, blame shifting, ignoring , altering roof plans with deception?........ Truly sickening....i hope your day in court is soon!

[@BananaBoss-me3et]

@@bflower601 This criminal is a disgrace to CANADA.

[@russelmctavish5039]

He did the same damn thing in Canada. That's why he left the country.

[@stejenn9565]

@@russelmctavish5039 I kindly request that you provide any specific evidence or documentation that supports your claims.

[@kbee1735]

What a scam!!

[@Emmmaahere]

These are just some of the MANY that have been affected. He is a scammer, and a disgusting human being.

[@stejenn9565]

I’ve watched this video a few times now, and while it raises important issues, there are points that require follow-up and clarification. As I’ve mentioned in other comment section, some of these claims don’t seem fully credible without further explanation. People should approach this video with an open mind, as there are two sides to every story, and the truth likely lies somewhere in between. The developer’s perspective, if they choose to share it, would be valuable here. From viewing the video, it seems there are several concerning issues surrounding the developer, particularly in Wendy’s case. Her story appears to highlight negligence; she expected to receive what she paid for according to her condo blueprints, but that didn’t happen. This alone raises serious questions about accountability on someone’s part. In this new world of cancel culture, I am tired of seeing people and groups canceled by the internet without merit. I don’t participate in these so-called witch hunts unless all information is put forward and thoroughly examined. To this end, a few specific questions remain unresolved: Translation Error: An apparent owner mentioned they translated an urgent document incorrectly. This raises questions-how was the translation done, and what led to the error? This context could be crucial for understanding the accuracy of claims surrounding this document. Not one, of the condo owners had this urgent document translated before signing that gave the developer ownership of the rooftop? Rooftop Ownership: User @jculleeny posted, "He has conceded ownership back to us because we hired an attorney but has not finished the rooftop lounge areas two years later." I’ve asked for confirmation-did the developer actually return rooftop ownership to the building owners? If so, why was this not mentioned in the video? Omitting this would seem to create a one-sided narrative, raising red flags for other aspects of the video as well. Recently, when I raised these questions in the comment section, I was advised to speak to their lawyer. However, these seem like straightforward questions that shouldn’t require legal consultation. This response brings to mind police TV dramas when someone “lawyers up” unexpectedly-are there other details left out? Again, I’m not picking sides. But if serious claims are going to be made in a highly produced KZbin video, the creators should be prepared to be open and transparent when viewers ask questions.

[@NatureGirl941]

We have been locked off roof since May 2024. At the time I was last on site November 3 2024, we are still locked off the roof. However, even if we are suddenly allowed on the roof, per independent inspection, the roof material currently on the roof is a material that is not made to be walked on. So there's that issue as well. I hope this is more clear and thanks for taking time to comment. Our offer to have the developer video his side of the story has not been responded to by his family, who suggested we were unfair and they should be heard. We are open to that. I would like to have these questions answered and negotiated like most would do in this situation to move forward.

[@bflower601]

​@@NatureGirl941.......you need not further explain anything!!!! This video was to warn people of your unfortunate experience...... It will be rectified in court. When people you do not know are asking for detailed explanation?...... Why do they care?....hmmmm....seems fishy to me.....only something perhaps a lawyer might do?....I think it would be in all persons involved with this court case to no longer answer any questions on this platform........your answers may be manipulated and used against you in a court.

[@stejenn9565]

@@NatureGirl941 Thanks for sharing your experience, it really sheds light on how tricky things can get in situations like these. It sounds like there were a lot of moving parts with the new laws, language barriers, and unexpected changes from the developer. I can understand how easy it is to get caught up in the moment and trust things without fully knowing what’s ahead. It's also frustrating when you're given different information at different times, which makes it hard to know what to expect. Thanks again for opening up about it!

[@bflower601]

​Whatever makes you feel better about yourself 😂😂😂​@@stejenn9565 FYI. There is a syndrome that explains your compulsion😂

[@scottGrozelle]

I agree . One side of a story is not the story. I do know Joel and his work and it is of a high standard so this is something that needs much more clarity .

[@stejenn9565]

Message for Phil Bannister, one of the owners interviewed, So you bought a studio condo with a covered parking spot, a large pool, and just a 15-minute walk to the beach-all for only $60K?! Tell me, where else in Canada or the USA can you find a deal like that, especially in a popular tourist town? Phil, if you're having second thoughts about this purchase, feel free to DM me. I'd be more than happy to take it off your hands at the price you paid. I know you don't have the deeds yet, but I’m sure we can work something out with the developer. This is a serious offer!

[@stejenn9565]

Phil, I’ve given it some more thought. You couldn’t even buy a vacant lot for close to $60K in Bucerías right now, so here's my offer: I’ll make it an even $70K for the unit and parking and take it off your hands. I’m sure $70K in cash can help you find that retirement dream somewhere else. Let me know what you think!

[@BigAl4599]

lol exactly. Sounds like privileged white people giving normal white people a really bad name. Shut up!

[@edm7356]

So, a person gets a good deal and that is a reason for the developer to deliver shotty and posable unsafe work!! Not deliver what was promised, by any chance are you a car salesman😮

[@stejenn9565]

@@edm7356 I will take it "as is" in reference to your car salesman comparison.

[@stejenn9565]

Hey Phil, I just watched the developer’s latest video from the rooftop, looks nice, doesn’t it? You drive a hard bargain, but I’m willing to raise my offer by another $5K. That brings it to $75K. Let’s make this happen. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a4u8aod-Z56qr8U

[@Mar-Lo-k1f]

Si dejaron de pagar las cuotas de la HOA, están incumpliendo el contrato de compra-venta, y es muy normal que en proyectos en preventa se empiecen a pagar las cuotas de la HOA al momento de la entrega de la unidad. De hecho, parece que al final se les dio acceso a la azotea. Tal vez si se pusieran al corriente con sus pagos y dejaran de hacerle campaña al desarrollador, todos podríamos disfrutar de los espacios sin problemas. No es justo que todos paguen por un pleito personal.

[@daverogers3837]

I knew the first time I saw this guy on Moving to Mexico that he was a big scammer... When he left the channel I thought he was in jail

[@cassieporter6092]

Es increíble cómo algunas personas no valoran lo que tienen. Tener la oportunidad de comprar una segunda casa en México es un privilegio que muchísima gente solo puede soñar. Y encima, consiguen el condominio a un precio increíblemente bajo. Deberían estar agradecidos, pero en lugar de eso, deciden difamar al desarrollador y a la comunidad. A mí me parece que este video no solo ataca al desarrollador, sino también a todos los vecinos que estamos felices con nuestras casas y que incluso queremos rentarlas o venderlas en el futuro. Tmb hay otras personas que están comprando en los nuevos proyectos del desarrollador y este tipo de videos no hace más que generar desconfianza e incertidumbre, lo cual no ayuda a nadie. Es un ataque innecesario que solo divide más a la comunidad. Además, todos sabemos que las entregas en preventa suelen tardar, y este tipo de actitudes solo retrasa aún más el progreso para todos los demás. También es bien sabido que obtener los títulos de las propiedades en preventa puede tomar bastante tiempo, así que no sé por qué se sorprenden. Si realmente quieren vivir tranquilos, tener buenas relaciones con sus vecinos o poder vender o rentar su propiedad algún día, lo mejor que pueden hacer es dejar de compartir material que solo hace daño a todos. Este tipo de actitudes solo nos separa más como comunidad y no nos lleva a ningún lado.

[@abcdef-cf9zv]

I’m not feeling that the main issue these people are portraying is the delay in the delivery of the project but the primary problem is the substandard construction. They are not criticizing they neighbours in any way, only wishing that their personal experience warns other buyers. Yes, buying a primary or second home in Mexico IS indeed a privilege but getting scammed by a developer is heartbreaking, at any price point.

[@stejenn9565]

So let me get this straight. 35 plus owners apparently receive this urgent document in Spanish, that needs to be signed and sent back ASAP. They are told it is in regards to MX money laundering laws. But NO one, actually took a minute to transcribe/translate this letter, signed it and sent it back by courier? I find this a bit difficult to believe. There has to be more to this part of the story.

[@treyjohns762]

You are told you have one day to send it back. You don’t know the culture, the language or the law, but you already have given the owner almost 100 percent of the price up front so you want to protect your investment. Yea, and like Bernie Madoff’s victims, we fell for it. With that said, why did he lie? Whether you think we are rubes or not, he showed a consciousness of guilt, or in an American law, “Malice a forethought.” Whether we signed or no stupidly, he lied in order to deceive.

[@Deltron6060]

​@treyjohns762 I was under contract with CE, luckily we didn't purchase. Every contract we received from them was in both English and Spanish. This would of been an immediate red flag. Signing a contract in a foreign language without understanding it is a big no-no. I do hope you all get it resolved but you also have to take some responsibility for at the very least being naive.

[@1962-e4y]

We did and what was translated was incorrect by DJS staff

[@jculleeny]

You can call us naive but fraud is fraud. He has conceded ownership back to us because we hired an attorney but has not finished the rooftop lounge areas two years later. That was in the English version of our contract.

[@jonf2126]

@@jculleeny I'm sorry you're going through this. Every contract I signed here was in English and in Spanish, and all stated that if there were a dispute, then the Spanish version was the legal version, and the English translation was not. (A FYI for anyone else making a purchase in Mexico). That said, the courts will decide what went on here. In the meantime I hope you can enjoy your time in Mexico.

[@Jaymayan07]

New construction usually come with a punch list of things to clean up after it’s built and also allll developers in the bay and I assume it’s very common everywhere are late with delivery …. 6 months late is not uncommon

[@michaelzee1194]

This guy has a gofundme page??????

[@jculleeny]

Whaaaat? Wow, can you put the link to it up. I wonder what that’s for? Thanks for letting us know!👍

[@Deltron6060]

I found 1, its from 2018 for a bike injury. Is there another one??

[@jculleeny]

@ Yea we heard he broke his femur while biking that year.

[@danc8363]

another started april 29 2024 for the poor of bucerias. seems very suspicious considering his legal trouble.

[@1962-e4y]

@@danc8363right?

[@jilliangoralski5840]

Joel's response - kzbin.info/www/bejne/qaevdoeljM52rrc

[@Deltron6060]

Not addressing any of these owner's concerns is hardly a "response." Hope it gets worked out.

[@stejenn9565]

The developers latest video showing the current rooftop conditions. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a4u8aod-Z56qr8U

[@Blackbeauty-t4u]

😂

[@NatureGirl941]

The one that isn't finished? Spots and stains all over? Where is the regime? There is no hoa in place and the roof has been locked since may 2024...suddenly under 3 crammed together structures we have a wooded leggo set that doesn't cover all walkable areas. 3 years to plan and he still doesn't have a plan.

[@Deltron6060]

After 2 years all you've got is 1 pergola and 4 tables, this sucks for you owners.

[@NatureGirl941]

@Deltron6060 no we also got locked off several times and then found out by an inspection it's not to be walked on, also alot of threats and verbal abuse. We got all that!

[@bflower601]

So, I guess he used a cheaper material on the rooftop and that's why it cannot be walked on? What a SCAMMER!!! He must have known that using cheaper material would breach the contract that owners would NOT have use of the rooftop!!!! Maybe that's why he tricked you into signing a new contract in Spanish!!!! But now he has given you access again ???? Backtracking because the courts are involved. As long as you have copies of the first contract and the Spanish amendment, the dates will line up and prove the fraud. I hope your day in court is soon! @@NatureGirl941 I'm sure you copied all the new videos he put out including the rooftop one.

[@mauryochoa3602]

Esto es difamación de la persona es ilegal en Mexico van a tener problemas la persona que grabo este video

[@fredyasatan1482]

It's only defamation if it's not true.

[@AdiMaeBucerias]

@@fredyasatan1482it’s not true

[@tessalynch4299]

@@fredyasatan1482 that’s why this is defamatory, Joel’s name is also in links to this channel.

[@lisaj6569]

Let me know if any of you in this video are interested in selling your unit. My husband and I would love to own one here.

[@jculleeny]

We can’t sell to you Lisa because after two years we have no title! Besides you would be walking into a lot of litigation.

[@NatureGirl941]

We dont have deeds TO sell. Check back often

[@NatureGirl941]

No regime, my realtors attorney as well as my attorney said no go on that!

[@LynnethBruce]

Anyone with half a brain would realize there is another side to this story.,

[@1962-e4y]

There is another side to this story. Stop by anytime and have a look at this disgrace of a building.@lynnethbruce.

[@dawnbursey]

@@1962-e4ytoo far Ruth.

[@jculleeny]

Joel Goralski will have a chance to have his side of heard in court!

[@tessalynch4299]

Exactly.

[@LynnethBruce]

@@1962-e4y We have friends who own there and absolutely love it. They are grateful to be able to own a place that they can afford and appreciate what they have. Buying pre construction anywhere is never easy. We have done it in the Caribbean, and several places in Canada. How can you expect repairs and a gate guard when people are not paying the HOA? What is the money you are paying into the “special fund” being used for? Sounds a bit suspicious to me and is making other people suffer from your personal discontent.

[@AdiMaeBucerias]

Seriously, do you have nothing better to do with your lives? Making a video to tear someone down without knowing the whole story is pathetic. If you had the balls, you’d have interviewed my father too to actually get his side. These interviews are so one-sided. My dad didn’t destroy your dream-you did that to yourselves. What you’re saying is so ridiculous and far from the truth. Life in Mexico isn’t the same as in Canada or the U.S., and sometimes things don’t go as expected-get over it. Maybe find something worthwhile to focus on instead of stirring up drama.

[@carolarmstrong4156]

Son…. It’s your father’s and I know it hurts. But! Look at the con artist he is, accept it and live your life differently. A moral compass helps💥

[@AdiMaeBucerias]

@ My father is not a con artist, and anyone with sense can see that. You people are completely delusional, grasping at lies to feel important. Most people at Cuatro are actually happy; it’s just a few with empty lives who spend their time spreading rumors. Those in the video are just creating their own downfall, and the truth will come out soon enough :)

[@AdiMaeBucerias]

@@carolarmstrong4156and clearly you are not right in your mind because it’s pretty obvious I am a women 🤔

[@NatureGirl941]

We have attempted several times to meet in and outside of legal proceedings, he has not chosen to attend. We would be agreeable for your mom and dad to appear on video to tell thier side of the story.

[@bflower601]

Wow! Very informative video......I'm sure it would not have been made without the Concrete proof of the allegations of fraud. Truly sickening that this has happened with these investors.....and then to be told "see you in court in 10 years!!!"....... The narcissism is so foul.....and I guess the apple doesn't fall that far from the tree? Hopefully in this case the legal system works faster than 10 years to resolve the problems that apparently are being ignored by the developer? Good luck to all that feel they have been scammed

[@stejenn9565]

The developers response kzbin.info/www/bejne/qaevdoeljM52rrc

[@BananaBoss-me3et]

The creep is all Lawyered up and ready for his 10 year court case. This guy needs to be shut down. This video should have been made 6 years ago when he first started money grabbling.

[@bflower601]

Well.....I read his statement he says given to him by his lawyer.....lolol....... I don't think it will take long for these investors to get resolution.....and soon...lol

[@bflower601]

​What ever makes you feel better about your compulsion😂​@stejenn9565 FYI. There are plenty of therapists that can help you with your GPS syndrome

[@stejenn9565]

@@bflower601 "You're right, my comment wasn't very nice, and I've removed it."

[@Blackbeauty-t4u]

@@stejenn9565you should probably go there and see I rented there the street noise was enough but the place is filthy we left half way through our stay.