The Truth About Clutchless Shifting | MC Garage

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[@naws69]

bruh

[@KatanaRIDERS.]

Does it work on a yamaha blaster Please help

[@Beevalover]

'pre-weighted' shifting = Shift Forks worn & farked in quick time...

[@thstorm]

A doubt. Can I clutchless downshift by blipping while maintaining a throttle just before blipping

[@zachcooler6064]

Ever shift from 1st to second and miss it and hit neutral? Ya sucks haha

[@damianharris691]

zach cooler all the time lol

[@dancarlos1216]

Wear riding shoes or boots?

[@nickylape8264]

Try doing it at the face of a jump😪

[@Haplo59]

Sometimes it occurs to me from 4th to 5th, or from 5th to 6th. Very strange feeling.

[@killersandwitch526]

First time I hit a false neutral between 3rd and 4th freaked me the fuck out 😂

[@laug1895]

i just tried this clutchless shifting, and it was awesome, my shifting became smoother and faster. at first i was afraid that i might damage the gearbox, but now im pretty confident., thanks to this wonderful explanation.

[@Majesenmoto]

Thanks for the great explanation! Just done the survey in about 6 minutes. Not a big effort in comparison of what you do for all of us. Good idea to know more about your audiece. Thanks guys! Greets from the other side of the ocean.

[@AriH211]

Thanks Majes, much appreciated. We're glad you like the show.

[@stelgd]

Ese majes!!! 😎😎

[@jesusherrerourtiaga4844]

Que pequeño es el mundo de la moto en KZbin!

[@skimmer9016]

A tirar cambios sin clutch sanos en la cbr majes? :v

[@Majesenmoto]

Fernando Manetti siempre lo hago pero es interesante saber por qué no es dañino para la caja

[@imitt12]

Another thing to keep in mind: the shift from first to second is always the hardest one, because the transmission is jumping over a large space in between the two gears - neutral. Clutchless shifting in between first and second can jerk and clunk at low speeds, and can sometimes pop you into neutral if you're giving it the beans. Make sure your shifter and any linkages are also adjusted as tight as you can get them, and same goes for throttle play. Most of the time when I do it, I'll clutch it for that shift and blip for the rest.

[@DaneFerolin]

Ian Mittelstaedt 100% agree

[@mikeshroyer3859]

I own a 06 CBR1000RR and i was constantly battling catching 2nd gear. It seems like everything has to be spot on to hit second gear. Between the chain, linkage, dirty hydraulic clutch oil and the type of motor oil i used effected this. Some days the bike would let peek into what it was like to ride the perfect machine other days i felt like it had Turrets Syndrome. I started looking at the quickshifters and the different types you could purchase buy i was confused on why one was more elaborate then others. I almost purchased one from a company called Heal Tech and it wasn't a bad price but i couldn't figure out why were some so elaborate. i finally decided to see if i could replicate what these quickshifters were doing because the clutch isn't cutting it. This was a blessing from heaven OMG i never use my clutch except in first gear to get going. no matter how fast or slow your going just roll off that throttle and poof right into gear. The days of missing 2nd gear and hearing that awful dreaded sound of failure are over. Ive been using this technique for about a year and at first ill say its something you have to get use to. Its just one of those things now thats automatic like breathing. When you first start this technique have your foot pull up on the shifter with a little pressure and the roll off the throttle. It should slip in to 2nd, 3rd and so on with ease but if you don't have enough pressure on you shifter you might stay in the same gear. If you are in first and do this at high revs oh you feel like a f*cking tard so practice at low speed at first. Eventually you'll figure your bike out and it will be second nature like a total bad ass when your left arm is swagging shifting gears. Good luck and practice you'll never use your clutch again except in first. GOD Bless you all and be safe because everyone in a vehicle is to relaxed and pampered to give a shit about a motorcyclist working his machine in the elements. The reason these bikes are so fast is to get away from these slolw ass vehicles that want to kill you.Dont get upset when people pull out in front of you or cut you off its not like aware of you its because you aren't in there a minute ago and in a split second you are. I act like its a video game and everyone is out to hit me. Find your emergency exit paths you'll use them more then you think and you wont be as mad when you ride. This has helped me tremendously with riding and everyday life situations too. Example, You are on a blind date and she is a beastly, stinky greasy hog with no personality. you'll find a exit quick or if you dont you might be eaten by pigzilla the hun. i ramble a lot i hope you try everything mentioned and that's it. Bye bye gotta fly, 1 gear down i'm outta town, M.B.M.

[@paulh9301]

I do the exact same. From 1st to 2nd, if i don't nail it perfectly. It's quite startling so I use the clutch only for 1st and 2nd gear.

[@MrLuvtheUSA]

I've never done it between 1st and 2nd because ive had trouble with slipping into neutral. I'm glad to know it's safe for my transmission though because I always worried that it was bad for it

[@Shockernor]

Yeah, my MV Agusta Brutale jumped in and out from first gear to neutral a few times a few days ago, and it scared the living shit out of me. Pretty scary as the rear wheel went wild. It does not help that the sensitivity of the throttle is extreme on that bike 😮

[@black_yeti]

Just tried clutchless shifting and it felt awesome

[@mrlmmo1712]

And the sound! High revs, blip it in the next gear and it's UNREAL!!

[@lowslo9287]

Yes it’s so fun 🥵

[@osalcedoucmsae]

At least you got to try it while you’re clutch cable was working (I assume), I had to learn when my cable broke while I was out riding, gotta say, stop lights were not fun lol

[@lowslo9287]

Omar S I’ve had it happen I just shut it off at a light

[@osalcedoucmsae]

LowSlo 92 yea but you still gotta deal with the same issue when taking off from a stop lol

[@TBullCajunbreadmaker]

I can't believe somebody actually knows what they are talking about. I've been doing this since I'm 15 years old. That's almost 50 years folks. I have had so many arguments with other bikers over the years about this technique that it ain't funny. I just quit talking about it for a long time. Glad somebody has the balls to put it out to the public.

[@curvecrazy]

And did you replace bikes often? The wear is there over time and if not consider yourself talented.

[@TBullCajunbreadmaker]

Not really. I still have a running bike that I bought new when I was 25 years old. Still runs like a top on the original plug.

[@curvecrazy]

Ok. I'll bite. What does that even mean? What's the mileage? This is like folks referring to their 40-50 years of riding experience like they're some kind of authority figure based on THAT when in fact they only rode a couple thousand miles total per year making them not an authority in the full context of their experience!

[@iant720]

curvecrazy I haven’t rode as long but I have an old bike it’s a 1980 XS850.... has about 35,000 miles.... I but 15,000 miles on it myself. All without using the clutch to shift. No problems at all. The bike is way more responsive too.

[@michaelbotha371]

TBull Cajunbreadmaker I also use this technique on bikes and 18 wheelers, "floating gears".Never had any mechanical issues in 27 years driving daily. It makes me think of the practice of using a car tyre on the back of a bike if the rim is wide enough to allow it (darksiders). You get those who swear by it and those who criticise it. At the end you do what works for you and let them do what works for them. It is rather pointless to try and convince those against clutchless shifting.

[@bristowxavierlm]

random old dudes : *I've never used clutch for shifting in my entire life.* clutch : *am i a joke to you ?*

[@MrGeoffrey1998]

They might have mistaken motorcycle for moped or maybe they stall each time they stop xD

[@Haplo59]

@@MrGeoffrey1998 Or maybe we live in a place where we can really enjoy the bike, like in the mountains, where there is no need to stop every 20 meters! When I see a rider shifting with the clutch, I immediately assume he/she's a beginner. Also when you have a dry clutch, it is in your financial interest to keep it the less worn possible. These mofos are not durable at all and expensive to replace :D

[@MrGeoffrey1998]

@@Haplo59 yup true but it was sarcasm, i mean i know when you don't stop that much you don't need to use the clutch. And yup for dry clutch. I personally try to quickshift as much as possible with my er6n, the problem is that sometimes the motorcycle really doesn't like it.. at high revs it's really smooth but when going mid low/mid RPM it just doesn't like it x)

[@skipintroux4444]

Let’s not forget the old generation was afraid of front brake..

[@michaelwells9980]

Punk ass kids : i know everything! 🤣🤣🤣

[@mxrider2strokebraaap54]

Don't forget to shift fast, I mean click it into gear fast because when you do that slow, the geardogs can wear

[@camkimbrell6825]

Vary good point

[@curvecrazy]

They'll wear anyway. Give it time and continued clutchless shifting.

[@nightmareinaction629]

Mxrider2stroke Braaap yup my friend always has to skip his 2nd gear because it either pops off or does not come in to gear

[@wik667]

nightmare in action nighmare in action Yeah i cant really shift into 2nd either because the shift is too long

[@allsystemsgootechaf9885]

And you get a jerk/buck from fuckin hell

[@shrikantbmali]

I’ve been doing it for ages without knowing that it’s a technique it that it’s called clutchless sifting until I watched this video, proud of myself, but there’s no one here to tell, so I’m writing this comment.

[@SmellyEllie2]

I am 53 and have been riding all my life. I have always done clutchless gear changes and have never had any gearbox problems with any bike.....

[@smudge0356]

I'm 55, me too.

[@Fridgemusa]

Same, done clutchless up-shifting for years with no issues :)

[@fredlee9054]

As long you do it right...then why not

[@prolificanalytics4499]

Hes saying if you have bad timing with the shift and you like feel that "stick" to it and your basically forcing the shift, thats when it can start to put some wear and tear

[@Irsyadhaziq96]

Independent HAHAHHAA

[@HeyDude93gt]

I also do this in dump trucks and 18 wheelers

[@michaelbotha371]

Yeah, so do I with my truck and I love it.

[@marcmo7138]

Because they are not synchronized transmissions. you are the synchronizer. road speed and engine rpm.

[@Malibus_Most_Wanted]

Only way to describe driving a teen speed is like a long close ratio box but very short gearing

[@Johnny-tq9no]

They are floating gaer transmission they are meant to be able to float gears you shouldn't do this in a synchro trans or a dog box without a proper electronic quickshifter installed

[@Johnny-tq9no]

@Mike Kannard wtf are you talking about

[@northerniltree]

I know about clutchless shifting. What I can't wrap my head around is all the clueless commentating.

[@jdc-fox-co]

These MC Garage vids are indispensable! Thanks for making them. And super glad to know my clutchless upshifts are on the mark, not to mention fun.

[@rosscorlett1877]

I've been doing it for 20 plus years and never had a problem, its actually smoother than using the clutch if done right and better for a pillion as you don't jerk the same as with the clutch and guess what/? No more helmet banging!!!

[@mooiboyace]

You haven't been shifting very smooth with your clutch then

[@Lugtastic]

@@mooiboyace Or his clutch is dog shit lol, that's how my old mazdaspeed protege felt and my XL70 that I'm still riding.

[@KrKrypton]

I've been using clutchless shifts since I started. Ever since my grandfather got me stated on a four wheeler and told me to ignore the clutch lever I've been doing it. I did use the clutch for downshifting at first when I started riding but figured out it was smoother to not use it soon after. All in all follow the video, everything works as stated. I will say, don't go pussy-footing your shifts. Dog-boxes don't take kindly to being treated with weak input. They like deliberate actions. That being said, don't go at it like a 400 lb gorilla, but be deliberate.

[@DoctorMotorcycle]

I've found that some bikes don't handle the 1-2 clutchless upshift very well, they tend to want to pop into neutral unless I absolutely JAM the bike into second. In addition, I've noticed some motorcycles have a tendency to hit false neutrals on clutchless downshifts. In fact the only bike that did was my sv650. All the other ones (CBR 1000, Superhawk 996, VFR800, Hypermotard 1100, Brutale 1090, GS450) that I daily rode were much smoother shifting clutchless both up and down. Nice video, I love this topic!

[@hommebizzare]

I love your content, and just filled out the questionnaire even though I live outside of the US - the least I could do after watching all your awesome videos! Especially a fan of maintenance related mc garage and the late "versys 300 vs crf 250 rally" video

[@motomookie8032]

Martin Fisker I enjoyed that video as well. Made me think about getting a x300

[@Majesenmoto]

Same here. Living outside, made the survey and absolutely loved that video. Now I want a x300.

[@AriH211]

Thanks Martin, we're after all the feedback we can get. We appreciate you taking the time to fill out the survey.

[@vxru5]

I use this technique every day when riding hard both up and downshifts. Really helpful when in the twisties. 🔥 However when riding normally or pulling away from a stop I'll use the clutch to shift from 1st to 2nd just because it really sucks when you don't manage to get past N 😂

[@IgWannA2]

I clutchless upshift and down shift my DRZ no problem. Easy bike to do it on. Most bikes are constant mesh transmissions so you won't damage it, and once you get used to it it actually becomes easier because you don't need to worry about the clutch. Plus it's quicker and smoother.

[@barryervin8536]

The gear teeth are constant mesh. But the shift dogs aren't. It's only logical that the shift dogs are going to wear more if they are under load when engaging. Shifting without the clutch is one of those things that, yes, certainly can be done, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea. In the long run your transmission will thank you for using the clutch as intended.

[@bizzle4819]

@@barryervin8536 thats the thing, it isnt under load when you shift. Letting off the throttle under acceleration is enough to take the load off the trans.

[@GTRwilson]

@@barryervin8536 wrong

[@claytonphillips5374]

@@barryervin8536 Then why do the rekluse auto clutches work so well? By your logic shouldn't all these thousands of people running them be having problems?

[@MiamiJato]

same here on my DRZ

[@KevinBeGood]

I lost my left leg in a moto accident, just got back on on a street bike the other day. Had to reach down and shift with my hand. No clutch needed except for down shifting. I had to put my prosthetic on the gear shifter then push it down. If there's a will there's a way.

[@gaxkiller]

Haha remind me the other day I accidentaly downshifted but it was super smooth, I was surprised it worked then I was worried it actually could damage my transmission, glad I fount this video

[@ComandanteJ]

What a wonderful example of a video. You formulate a question, set the theme, and, instead of waiting for the end of the vid to answer the question you made earlier, you answer it right along, without bullshit. Never change, guys.

[@midlifebiker7424]

I wouldnt do 1st to 2nd personally and downshifting is higher risk too but higher gears at speed is smooth on most modern bikes.

[@o3tomas]

I damaged my transmission just by watching this video

[@AriH211]

Lol

[@renynzea]

Ditto, and mine doesn't even have a transmission.

[@jamesroyster5250]

well you dident do it right

[@wileecoyote4116]

After I watched this video, my bike blew into pieces

[@sanjeevmoudgil699]

Rebuild watching another video !!

[@neomatrixfree8031]

I have only seen a few of these videos, but this guy is very clear, and answers my questions before I ask them. Well done, he doesn't stumble his words with 'uh...um...ya know...'. Highly recommended!

[@sheldon8801]

Exact same thought. He does a very good job explaining

[@ericjarret1876]

That Dorso needs a review from you guys! Great video as always!

[@reistje]

I used to do it clutchless on my junker cb250 because it shifted pretty unsmooth with clutch. However on my regular bikes I only do clutchless on hard acceleration.

[@yeet2292]

Sometimes I forget that not everyone grew up beating the shit out of dirt bikes and have to be taught this stuff.

[@connorbeckmann2981]

So true, growing up in motocross, it is faster and often necessary on a track. and it just kind of stay with me to street, although in a nicer manner towards the bike.

[@lemiwinks7794]

my first bike had such a stiff clutch lever as an 8 year old it wasnt feasable to clutch every upshift

[@Jake_Hynds]

I always clutched because I wouldn't let off the gas from full throttle while shifting the 85 lol

[@chuckugly]

What he said

[@Tomos13]

And for those that damage their transmission while doing it wrong let me know in the comment bellow lol

[@NguyenCuong-pj7us]

Tomos13 Lol, I did, the drive chain was the first thing noticably affected in my case tho', I had to tighten it up much more frequently doing clutchless shifting on daily basis

[@petar-boshnakov]

Nguyễn Cường you need to oil and clean your chain properly

[@NguyenCuong-pj7us]

Petar Boshnakov I do clean my chain rather frequently, particularly once every one or two weeks (tropical area, and I'm on a 150cc bike), I just learnt that with the same cleaning interval, clutchless shift caused more damage than conventional shift

[@petar-boshnakov]

Nguyễn Cường that's very interesting. Is your chain slack like 2 inches because if it is too tight it will stretch prematurely

[@NguyenCuong-pj7us]

Petar Boshnakov I knew how to service my chain. But the point is, I was clutchless shifting incorrectly, which put stress on the transmission and eventually damaged it, the drive chain was the most obvious sign

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

"If your like most people, you use the clutch every time you shift"- the only people that i know that clutch every gear is harley riders

[@dildobaggins1426]

Hardly Ableson :)

[@BigUriel]

@ZX-12R You do unload the gearbox momentarily. When you go from being on the throttle (positive torque) to being on engine braking (negative torque) what happens in the middle?

[@darthpaul4432]

@Gordon Gekko Wow, you sound like you know what you're talking about.

[@donfripp1901]

I've been clutchless shifting for years. It's great for preventing helmet bumping when you have a pillion during acceleration.....

[@theenzoferrari458]

Or maybe just use the clutch lever like a normal person and have ur idiot pillion keep thier head away from yours dummy. Ever thought about that?

[@rajabisaacs7396]

I watched this 2 hours ago, and when i went for a 5-minute ride to pick up food, i tried it. It felt awesome, on the first trip to the place, i one time tried clutchless shifting without preloading it first, it went perfect. Then on the return i got 1 snag, and preload shifted the rest of the way back. It was amazingly faster and felt amazing to do> THNX MC Garage

[@mujtabakamal]

I do clutchless up shift on my cbr250r at 6k rpm.... it feels so smooth. I was doubting is it safe or not.... this video cleared my doubt. Thanks for making such awesome videos. 👍

[@boomdawg56]

I agree that if done correctly, there isn't much wear on hard parts, the problem is that not everyone knows how to shift with the clutch, let alone without it. I have never seen anyone tear up a transmission shifting with the clutch but I have seen quite a few torn up that were subjected to no clutch shifting.

[@stevedoe1630]

Clutchless shifting theory can be practiced with the clutch, too, with rev matching. The goal is to NOT have a large CHANGE in engine rpm after releasing (reengaging) the clutch. This “feeling” for rev matching is so-so for up shifting, but you can really feel & appreciate for downshifting. (I find it to be quite satisfying when executed well, to know I am putting less stress on wear components.)

[@oekfoh8684]

I had an R15 for a good amount of time, I always shifted up clutchless to get in front of traffic, never had a problem right to the day I sold it

[@__Razer]

What happened on the day you sold it? Did the ghost of the clutch come back and haunt you?

[@oekfoh8684]

What do you mean, the point was it never died

[@motorman857]

Clutchless shifting is easy on a Harley as well. Unless of course, your a dufuss.

[@RoadcraftNottingham]

Spot on. I had to do this the other day when my hydraulic clutch slave cylinder leaked on my st1100. A mechanic told me it knackers the gearbox.. Rubbish. ☺

[@kimw200blaze4]

With all due respect ( and I respect you for your knowledge of roadcraft safety) go and watch Dirty Garage Guy. He demonstrates from an purely mechanical perspective ( more than what is given here in this inadequate video) how clutchless shifting damages the dogs and shift forks. Once you see his videos on Quickshifters and Clutchless shifting, you will never attempt an clutchless shift on your bike ever again. That is of course, if you do not want the costly repairs that will come from the gearbox damage done by clutchless shifting.

[@RoadcraftNottingham]

@kimw200blaze4 if timed right, it does no damage. Mistiming a clutch change does more damage. Best rule, if it sounds good,it is good.

[@kimw200blaze4]

@@RoadcraftNottingham It's the accumulative damage that occurs when you clutchless shift. Dirty Garage Guy explains it well. It's got nothing to do with it not sounding right. Go watch his videos on this topic I would suggest. A Quickshifter is completely safe as it cuts the ignition completely and kills completely the RPM load. Clutchless Shifting does not. It lowers the RPM load but that load is going to hit the dogs and shifter fork hard. And then the damage accumulates. I've got nothing more to say.

[@striple765]

If you know the technique right, congratulations, you have a quickshifter for free which actually feels awesome.

[@Frejborg]

I do clutchless upshifting when I do hard pulls for max acceleration. It's fun, easy, and badass. Clutchless upshifts are much faster than regular shifting.

[@tkt9310]

Um no shit

[@jpayne8096]

Motorcycle myths and the people who fall for them make me laugh! Yes, clutchless shifting IS a real thing. Now, let's talk about how using the handlebar mounted kill switch can destroy your engine.....🤣

[@brewerbrewer5988]

Kudos Ari! Could you cover sometime the topic on how long you can ride a supersport in terms of mileage. I often hear that supersports don't last long due to their revvy engines. As an 06 daytona 675 owner i'm curious. Groeten vanuit Holland

[@4theriders]

arne brouwer I've put 85k+ on a couple sport bikes. Treat them right and they'll work.

[@beyondriven5150]

I've got just shy of 45k on my 06 CBR600rr, only repair I've made besides basic maintenance was to replace the cam chain tensioner. Some of those are track miles too, and it still doesn't miss a beat

[@fornicateu2]

I'm at 80 thousand miles on my 02 ZX9R, its never seen a dealership and has been tuned and maintained by me since 10k miles, sweet as a nut on the original clutch with clutchless up changes from the start, ridden properly, though the output shaft bearing has worn out now so its getting replaced when the weather goes up a few degrees at which point I'll also inspect the change mechanism and transmission for wear.

[@DJGnagiLove]

I learned this in driving school. Granted, the rules for driving licences are very different in Norway. We also learn how to safely lane-split, what to look for as signs to what the car drivers will do. We have mandatory 15~20 hours riding with instructors, as well as a driving exam. Still, a good video, with solid information, keep it up!

[@eugenesol2074]

Same in Ireland, mandatory classes with instructor: theory and practice

[@roryonabike5863]

Without question, the most informative English speaking channel on motorcycles.

[@AriH211]

Thanks Rory. Is there a better vid series out there in another language? Lay it on me!

[@Schaaf]

Thank you!

[@angelocardoc]

Looking pretty buff Ari. Bring back the dreads brah.

[@TheThunderwars]

I only use clutch to keep from stalling. Else, I always ease the throttle, shift and re apply throttle in the fastest way I can manage. You don't need an electronic shifter to do that, I shift 50 y/o bikes like that. Electronic shifter just cut ignition for a few ms, which cuts power and unstuck the gears, so you can shift just like you had eased the throttle beforehand

[@fakhrulfirdaus3517]

I'm from Malaysia 🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾 I've done it before...and hell yeah... everything work fine as fcuk...btw thx for the information given...it helps more to understand what is going on with the transmission n clutch lever

[@cattlecorner305]

Fakhrul Firdaus wow...!!! The way you curse ,it makes me think that you have no clue the meaning of your name. Thanks..

[@chuckadamson3903]

What do you do with all that extra time you "save" with shifting so much faster?

[@gizzync1525]

beat the M5 you are racing? lol

[@Zachattackisrad]

replace the trans from extended wear

[@Dbsbsa-od3hr]

I used to clutchless upshift on my Honda cbr600 cause it was smoother than clutching and as long as I had rolled off the throttle it would change gears with little to no resistance. I don’t know if it did any damage but I would always clutch for downshifts.

[@AgustinCortes]

It mainly used for racing, when I go full gas I dont use the clutch bc its much faster to not do so

[@guilhermeesteves4240]

I waited to answer you

[@HIGHDEFMOTO]

Definitely smoother and quicker shifting up and down without clutch, I find if I pre load the lever just slightly in anticipation of rolling off the gas it just slips into the next gear with out any effort at all. Buttery Smooth☺️

[@carlosandleon]

HIGHDEFMOTO its virtual smoothness. the cogs and dogs are stressed af

[@amalkallarackal9293]

HIGHDEFMOTO pre loading the gear is a bad idea infact. It could cause unnecessary wear and tear as you're already applying slight pressure into a loaded transmission before taking the load off (releasing the throttle)

[@Omfgwhtavid]

In all my years riding I've never had an issue with it.

[@rassanity3292]

@@amalkallarackal9293 Because SLIGHT pressure from your left foot is causing more damage than the 150hp fire breathing engine that's trying it's best to rip that little cog in half?

[@amalkallarackal9293]

@@rassanity3292 who's giving that slight pressure??? Yes it'll be bad to do that Just drop the throttle a bit and shift the gear just like you'd do with the clutch.... It's smoother and less jerkier than pulling the clutch and doing it. Especially if you're at higher revs

[@TooManyKangaroos]

Love your channel guys! Especially dispelling myths about bike care and such. (Killswitch, WD-40, clutchless shifting etc.)

[@sennsir]

Awesome! We all appreciate the advice!

[@mrturner69]

if the transmission has synchros it can prematurely wear them out because they will act as the clutch loaded or unloaded.

[@caruser4]

I love doing this on my Strom for no reason lol

[@himskey8618]

Ive used clutchless shifting in my cars and on my bikes,also if ur clutch cable is broke you can roll your bike in netrul and hop on it and shift to first or second with a slow roll ive noticed

[@isaaczahra6246]

Very informative!

[@markfox1545]

kermit the frog 'informative' not 'informational'. My advice here is the former.

[@chillax498]

"informative"

[@isaaczahra6246]

Thanks.... I'm 12.....

[@chillax498]

Sorry kid..just my ocd

[@johncarpententte7963]

I found also that hand position on the throttle grip is important when clutch less shifting

[@dustin9035]

I'm sneaking out tonight at 3am to try this on my dad's new mustang GT.

[@callummacleod1921]

Wow, amazes me how many people in the comments still think this will damage your gearbox somehow. I've fitted a quickshifter to my last 2 litre bikes and never seen problems. as stated as long as you unload the transmission it's fine. and it wont shift while under load in the first place. If you are that uncoordinated that you cant manage this, then you will damage something no matter what method you use.

[@smudge0356]

Plus, "If you are that uncoordinated that you cant manage this, then you... ". ...probably shouldn't be riding anyway! HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa!

[@motomookie8032]

You dah man!! Thanks but no thanks! Clutch all day for me.

[@SeiferFirehart]

Great timing, I was using clutchless shifting both up and down for a while now and this video answered my questions.

[@Peter-V_00]

Preloading the shift lever too often will result in burnt shift forks and gears, not a good practice.

[@carlosdeleon9593]

MerlinxPV it’s just to start off

[@drewtaylor6997]

Wrong

[@chris.pbacon1811]

Burnt shift forks?

[@justme.i.a.n4055]

It can be done without preloading,just need proper timing

[@drewtaylor6997]

People seriously think just jabbing it in over preloading is better is just stupid and they ovioslsy don't no how change gear correctly. Yes it can if timed right u can do that more at high rpm

[@BaldKiwi117]

I clutchless up shift from 2-6 because 1-2 feels rough

[@DarkAristocrat]

I am fine with not winning your prizes, man. The information you provide on videos like this is more than enough for me. I was basically a newbie on the bike and even little problems I take it to the mechanic. But after watching your videos, hell, now I can do half of the work myself.

[@brufnus]

When I occasionally make clutchless downshifts, I simply rest my foot on the pedal, then it shifts automatically when the load (or rather, lack of) is in the ballpark. I don't do it much, though...

[@ashitpatnaik6096]

I've started doing this since I saw this video over a year ago, and boy, my mates were shocked how I was shifting so quickly on the highways 🤣 always leaving them behind.

[@powertool4uau]

I noticed you mixed up the titles on your Video, Wasn't this one suppose to say "How to f**k your motorbike gearbox".

[@joonya4427]

powertool4uau Nice one

[@corujariousa]

I've done it and know many bikers like to do it but why take the risk of damaging the gearbox (specially downshifting) if we have a good clutch? Thks for another video.

[@MrTheHillfolk]

corujariousa Not sure, but me and pops can't wait till his new ktm rc390 is broken in so we can check out its slipper clutch... that should add some fun to the ride.

[@iant720]

corujariousa It won’t hurt it. However you can hurt the clutches... by using them all the time

[@aldri346]

I learned how to do this since i started riding at 15 and now it just feels natural

[@fredrickbartschjr.5262]

News flash, this just in. During street riding just chill the hell out and use the clutch. You'll live longer.

[@puttputt1992]

Ok guys, stop having fun, Lord of the safety police has arrived to inform you all that clutchless shifting will kill you

[@joshbobst1629]

'02 Goldwing rider here. I rarely use the clutch on upshifts between second and fifth. I also rarely get above 2500 rpm. I _am_ chilling; that's why I ride a couch on two wheels on back roads. Clutchless shifting is just smoother and more intuitive. I do it in manual transmission cars too; all the Mack trucks I used to drive would not allow the use of the clutch for up or downshifts. A clutch is a crutch for bad drivers as far as shifting goes; as long as you've matched the input and output speeds, there is nothing at all wrong with dispensing with the clutch. If I do use the clutch, it's usually rougher, takes much longer, and is way more annoying. Becuase the 1.8 liter six cylinder engine is just so gigantic, I usually don't even downshift; for most decelerations, I just let fifth gear drag me down to twenty-five mph or so, then use the back brake to slow down as I pull in the clutch and shift down to second or first. Looking forward to the rumored 2018 hybrid Dual Clutch Automated Manual.

[@EUC-lid]

Clutches are for wheelies, not changing gear.

[@4theriders]

Fredrick Bartsch Jr. Eh...I always clutchless upshift 2nd and above, even on the street. Mostly, I'll short shift up to 5th or 6th (clutchless) so my bike isn't noisy and attracting attention..even at 30mph. Clutchless shifting has nothing to do with going fast.

[@B10401]

It won't affect how long you live. This just in. You don't know how to do it so you think no one else should.

[@jeremybravo8486]

In truck driving we call this floating gears.

[@beimircc6434]

I already did that back in driving school My teacher though it's not good

[@truckyz5059]

I noticed on my bike when I shift I don’t have to fully pull in my clutch to shift up a gear and it feels a lot smoother than fully pulling in my clutch is that bad ?

[@niscent_]

i'm wondering too. sometimes on the acceleration i just bring the clutch to it's slipping point and slightly drop the throttle to shift.

[@johna6968]

I have done it but the clutch is there for a reason. A pointless and possibly expensive habit for road use

[@johna6968]

Josh Bobst A thousand dollar gearbox repair on my buddies zx10r after he fancied his chances clutchless for a while says different maybe. Every gear bar first had damage. A totally smooth shift isn't guaranteed. I just find it a pointless thing to do on the road..

[@rahgahnah]

Josh Bobst Motorcycle transmissions are not synchromesh. They use dogs not synchros. Motorcycle transmissions are constant mesh while car transmissions are not.

[@johna6968]

rahgahnah As said before, genuinely don't see the point on the road. I don't recall ever reading in any owners manual that it's fine to shift without the clutch. A personal choice at the end of the day..

[@MrMagic-pv5kd]

Yeah people often mix up poor shifting with clutch less shifting. Bad shifting technique will damage a bike no matter if you're using the clutch or not. Doesn't matter either way if done correctly. Nothing wrong with using the clutch though just a little slower and adds some hesitation depending how fast you do it. And if you do it quick enough it's basically a clutch less shift anyway

[@ShaunHensley]

Jay B yes. That reason is for coming to a stop.

[@markdunbar8219]

I clutchless up shift a lot it's quicker but never downshift no point 🏍xx nice vid 👍🏻

[@Kcducttaper1]

Shame the survey requires name, address, and phone number to be eligible for the prizes. Of course you find that out after you've spent the time to fill out the survey.

[@shonith91]

u need not put ur phone number and address. I didn't. I am not from U.S so I just filled it to give my opinion about the channel.

[@RideWithRen]

It's the law.

[@Death666wish]

How did you want to receive the prize? By email?

[@Kcducttaper1]

I have no trouble filling out the survey. I'm glad they take the time to make these videos and I'm more than happy to do my part to share some feedback, when asked. I'm not a fan of signing up for spam though. I'd rather be notified of my winning before giving out my address and all that just as a general practice to cut down on junk mail. I do the same thing at Home Depot, and other stores, when they ask for all that info. I'm not going to give them all of my contact info just for a bucket of nails. When they ask, I just say we can skip that part. My contact info is not part of the sale because I don't want them to contact me.

[@EUC-lid]

wimmisky , sweepstakes only need one contact method for alerting a winner. If you follow the sweepstakes rules and then go to the privacy policy you'll see that the sweepstakes is considered a 3rd party collecting the info for whatever purposes they want (if it's only for contacting the winner, that would be specified there) and if you don't provide everything you're ineligible to win. Expect a lot of extra marketing calls and mailers giving your name, address, and phone number to a third party. Your info is worth way more to them than your chance of winning a prize is to them.

[@KevsShed]

Wierd question I know but do you happen to have a good link to the Alpinestars boots worn during the onboard sequences of this video? I need me some of them!

[@DoRC]

These days the only time i clutchless shift is when im on my road pushing the button to open my garage door with my left hand. Though i will say that most of the time i barely touch the clutch lever when shifting normally so im basically doing it all the time.

[@kencohagen4967]

My brother had a Nissan Pulsar NX. The Trans was extremely worn and loose. The clutch cable broke one day and he called me for help, and I managed to get it home without using the clutch. Matching RPM and Vehicle speed makes it possible. After a couple tries upshifting was a breeze, and downshifting worked after a few more. A coup,e days later I replaced the clutch cable and it was as good as ... old?

[@electech_5495]

I've actually had to do this in my car the clutch went out, it's alot harder on a car lol, I got a good feel for timing+rpm(e36 m3) some syncros were worn,, but most the time it honestly felt like I didn't need a clutch--mind Blowing stuff!!!

[@Caluma122]

I always think about this and it becomes obvious when you dismantle/rebuild an engine and you see how the transmission works. Just because you pull the clutch in, doesn't instantly stop the gears from moving. In fact, the output shaft connected to the wheel is going to keep on spinning.

[@Johnny-tq9no]

Clutchless shifting is going to wear the dogs on the gears over time unless you have a quickshifter it's almost impossible to get the perfect balance between accelering and engine braking as any load on the transmission is bad and it's almost impossible to get it right all the time

[@MrGeoffrey1998]

I have an er6n, restricted at 34hp (stupid french law) and it's been almost a year i always use clutchless upshift. I had a few fails (mainly false neutral) but my acceleration is so much better, i'm keeping up with better motocycles and i accelerate way faster than other 34hp restricted er6n. In terms of smoothness, it might seem weird but my clutchless upshifts are WAY smoother than my clutch shifts. When i use the clutch it really makes a weird and noise metallic sound, but clutchless upshifiting really makes you think you added butter to the shift axle xD I really recommend trying it (even more when you take motorcycle lessons as it's not yours). But as it's said in the video, if you preload the gearbox by putting your foot against the selector, you'll only have to stop accelerating and it'll shift naturally, i fully agree

[@dangerdavefreestyle]

I've rode with a guy who'd chirp the backtire everytime he downshifted, I was like hey man you gotta blip the gas while you do that. Some folks just arent intuned with the machine.

[@nishantpratapsingh6628]

Heyy I am from India. Love your videos. I have just one case where clutchless downshifting is helpful. When we are coming downhill in a rainy season at that time using clutch and going like 2 or 3 gears down aggressively may be by mistake on high speeds might lock your rear wheel and your bike may skid on wet tarmac and can cause serious accident. Talking about bikes with no slipper clutch.. I have seen this 3 times in last 1 and half years because it rains too much here. Also happened to me once but fortunately I didn't drop. Using breaks and engine breaking together and then downshifting at correct speed is the trick because bike will not shift 2-3 gears in 1 go. I always use it. I don't know you will read it or not. But just sharing and if I am wrong then help in other video.

[@Ethan-yx3xd]

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[@F1lsilva14]

Hi, nice video but i have some questions, 1- Can i use Clutchless upshit with 50% throttle? 2- Can i use Clutchless upshit in low rpm? 3- Can i upshit without letting the throttle in normal shit with clucth?

[@Voltomess]

did you find the answer? I also wonder the same things

[@satariel8652]

yes yes yes 1- if you release the throttle fast you can. 2- you need to be smooth and do it just a little, if you can do it in high rpm just do the same but with micro movements, just put the throttle in the zone where the bike just mantain the speed but fast, in low rpm its so minimun that you almost can't see the movement of your hand. 3- yes, but you will use the clutch like a launch, You are going to degrade it more and you make the temperature rise.

[@F1lsilva14]

@@satariel8652 thanks

[@emergencylowmaneuvering7350]

02:37 yeah right. You say, "In general, the higher the rpm, the easiest is to shift with no clutch". Ha, ha. Where is the demo??. Avoided showing it. Because it is the contrary. Failed.. Im a Moto rider and car mechanic too for decades. But you said before on 00:50 that to do that you have to "Unload the tranny" = reduce rpm. Big contradiction says to unload the engine/and tranny, and do it, then says to rev or load the engine and tranny because the higher the rpm the easiest to do. Contrary. Where is the video doing high rpm and shifting gears without clutch?? Nowhere.

[@1pelikone]

I'm a rider too and i can say, clutchless shifting is way easier and smoother on higher rpm.

[@emergencylowmaneuvering7350]

@@1pelikone Lets see the video. Thats it. At higher rpm the syncros wont mesh the gears on time. at lower rpm is easier and safer and wont shit the tranny. Im a mechanic for decades and power shifting stick for decades too. You power shift with no clutch, you fuck up the gears. Now lets see your video doing flat power shifting with no clutch. Flat means high or full power power shifting..

[@HaythamMizo]

@@emergencylowmaneuvering7350 Bikes don't have synchros and their gearbox are constant-mesh gears. Things you do on your car doesn't apply to motorcycles

[@benediktschroeder9433]

Thank you! I asked for this and you delivered!

[@FourThreeSeven]

Been riding a 2018 R1 for a year now, love the quick shifter and blipper. Makes everything easy and fun. But i wouldnt even bother with this shit unless i needed it for racing. pointless on the street.

[@caveyful]

It's easier in the higher gears too. I find emergency stops works better downshifting with the clutch so I wouldn't want to make a habit of clutch less downshifts though.

[@EugenHagrid]

eh, you didn't saw old soviet bikes with semi-automatic clutch shifting - IZH, Dnepr or czech Jawa for example. you can to shift the clutch only to start on these bikes. also there are more then 1 neutral shift (not only between 1 and 2, also between 3 and 4 on Dnepr and Ural and between all gears in IZH).

[@amihere383]

I first tried clutchless shifting a few weeks ago, I was going down a long straight on my first bike, my baby ninja 250, and I was just getting to see what it could do. I decided to try it since I'd heard about it. I clutchless shifted from second to 6th in about 5 seconds and It was a blast! I cooled it afterward because I thought I smelled something burning, but it turned out to be the old beater in front of me! It was a blast and it really can feel smoother. I never noticed until I rode with a passenger the first time, and he was a first timer as well so he didn't know how to anticipate the shifts. He kept smacking his helmet into mine when I shifted roughly, but when I tried clutchless shifting he didn't, because I wasn't suddenly jerking.

[@emmettturner9452]

If I put a little weight on the shift pedal it will suddenly downshift when the gears are synced and the engine speed is slow enough. This doesn’t happen in 6th gear until you are already going surprisingly slow but you can then rapidly go down through all the gears without touching the clutch or the throttle. I learned to clutchless upshift and had to combine it with my lazy downshift when my clutch cable broke on my 2008 Ninja 250. This was probably around 2010.

[@ryvoltz]

There's one more interesting thing about it: clutchless shifting at higher revs feels easier because we tend to let off the gas a lot, and it's really easier because the rev gap between gears is bigger in higher rpm's - for example, if you shift at 8.000rpm and the engine falls to 7.000rpm (1.000rpm gap), it will only lose 500rpm when you shift at 4.000rpm. So, the lower the revs, the less you have to let off the gas. Thanks for another excellent video, MC!

[@pijen]

starting from 3:44 damn that's some nice video editing XD

[@DannyPorsche]

*That’s on bikes without a quickshifter only, right? I have quickshifter on my ZX10R and 1299 Panigale. ZX10R is only up tho* and I would never use it down w/o clutch.*

[@TheSpitfire2207]

i clutchless shift on the sport bike, did it once on the harley by accident, definitely don't recommend that one lol

[@Tiagof_26]

I do in my harley and no problem

[@Jake_Hynds]

Only time I shift up without clutch is while on a wheelies on the 250f