The TRUTH about ELECTRIC CARS! Don't fall VICTIM to their EVil LIES!

[@TiredMorgan]

Absolute love it when someone comes and says "You can't film here, you need permission". Need to understand the law before piping up and embarrassing themselves.

[@lancecox2963]

Hi Lee. Purchased a new RAV4 just over a month ago. It is a 2.0 litre non hybrid petrol engine. Would have considered a hybrid but a 2 year wait! Fuel economy is awesome for the vehicle. Returns 5.0 litre per 100kms for a trip from Northern Gold Coast to Northern Brisbane using toll roads. Thank you for telling the truth about the government's bloody mindedness of making their constituents going EV. It will be a cold day in hell when that happens.

[@barackblows1942]

I have a 2021 gas only RAV4 and the engine is a 2.5L. FJB 🖕🇨🇳

[@georgefours]

They have to push electric cars because they have so many sitting at dealers that nobody wants.

[@SDK2006b]

Well, with the price of used EV’s coming down fast now, (high depreciation), used EV’s outsold used ICE cars for the previous two months (Autotrader data)

[@MrSuperG]

@@SDK2006bwho cares the flying ones are out now , EVs n Tesla is yesterday’s news .

[@MrSuperG]

I’m fly like an Angel back to heaven , even thou I like this place I do some where deep inside me , miss the old girl

[@peterwoad8087]

Forton services...A mushroom....no Lee it's the 'flying saucer'

[@6am_Doug]

I was reading up about this, unfortunately some ev’s have sat untouched for 2-3 years now and most dealers were not trained to charge the vehicles to a “storage charge” prior to displaying, It would appear therefore they’re considering breaking them for spares as they know they’ll be battery warranty claims within a year 🤦‍♂️

[@esecallum]

EV can be destroyed by NOT buying them.

[@moragkerr9577]

Hah, dream on. Not going to happen. I see more and more of them around every day.

[@Anthony-vm1jc]

Being from bottom rung never understood the idea of buying a car that costs a much as a house 🤦‍♂️👍✌️

[@debeeriz]

the abuse you get is because people dont like being reminded they made a mistake, they bought an electric car to save money and now the figures dont add up

[@gemmac3371]

The comment nailed it!

[@baza2956]

wrong ive made no mistake so dont get what you mean plz explain how you know ive made a mistake who am i ? lol

[@turokforever007]

Wait until you charge price goes up @@baza2956

[@stuartmitchell8736]

We have 3 EV’s in our company now charging at 17 p per Kw is that a mistake?

[@debeeriz]

@@baza2956 not everyone has made a mistake, but there are a lot that realise they have and they have lost a lot of money when they thought buying an electric car would save them money, the extra cost to insure an electric car would wipe out any savings on fuel for me, then there is depreciation and the extra interest on the loan

[@stuartgibson9755]

"people identifying as wheelie bins and jacket potatoes..." had me on the floor.🤣🤣🤣. Nice one Lee.

[@cornishhh]

I was speaking to a chap in a cafe a couple of years ago. He was there because his son was charging his Tesla to get home to Yorkshire. This chap was telling me that they had to stop three times to charge, because none of the chargers they stopped at were working properly, and reached their destination nearly out of charge, and cold because they were driving without the heater. I got called a liar for quoting this story on KZbin. I'd never met the chap before. He had no reason to lie to me.

[@cliffyh466]

Reminds me of driving an old land rover, fully coated with gloves, it's like we are going backwards

[@iancrosby3475]

What I picked up from the JOGLE videos was that you only find out that the chargers are out of order once you've stopped, connected and had payment authorised. Petrol stations cone out of order pumps off and hang yellow signs on the individual nozzles

[@paulbetts9975]

I recently bought a brand new Skoda Superb 2litre diesel SE-L automatic estate. It gets best Estate car, best towing car. The saloon version I had for less than a year could return 1000 miles on a long run. Preston to Padstow, drive around, Padstow to Preston and still had 250 miles range! 50 mpg urban. Excellent cat 6 Diesel car. The Skoda dealer did not try to sell me an electric car. I wouldn't have the costly beasts anyway. I'm retired and happy that my Skoda will last me out if I want it to. Love you and Jeff's Co productions.

[@cheakyblinder]

If EVs are that good why are we being forced into having 1..... MPs must have shares in these companies.

[@djtaylorutube]

Serious question, who is forcing you?

[@SDK2006b]

Who is forcing anyone into EV’s 🤔

[@moragkerr9577]

They're absolutely great, but if you don't want one, don't have one. Nobody is forcing you.

[@robertkubrick3738]

@@djtaylorutube Mandating an end of production of ICE cars is not Force?

[@djtaylorutube]

@@robertkubrick3738 Are you forced to buy one? That was my question. We both know that the answer is "no". Keep running what you've got, buy second hand for the next 20 years+ and that's what I read most of the time in comments. That's very different from being told that you must buy a new car by 2035. Other considerations would be future fuel pricing. We can only guess how that will be influenced, same for any taxation. Those will likely be the levers to pull to create continual pressure. Just to be clear, it's the statement that I'm challenging here, not the opinion of whether it's right or wrong. Nor am I advocating any particular position and having cars fuelled by LPG, petrol, diesel and electric, I'm affected by policies for ALL of them! ULEZ in London for example is something that I disagree with. Not the principle but the current implementation. In that case there is a force through punitive fines per day, affecting those who can least afford change. Especially people who are just outside the zone and do not qualify for grant assistance. I forget the latest statistics but something like 90% or 95% compliance, so the remaining non compliance is a very small issue. However, similar zones will appear no doubt and those will restrict ICE usage as more coersion, at that point you have a choice as to whether you visit or use compliant transport. Stockholm and Paris being two examples with complete ICE bans, plenty of others with limitations across Europe. Plenty of time to adapt though, bottom line, nobody is currently prevented from buying ICE now or in the future. Their choice though will be impacted in other ways.

[@Judge_Dredd]

Next car I buy will be about 15 years away (touch wood), and likely an Ammonia ICE Vehicle, unless the ICE Legislation prevents them being bought in the UK. By then the EV will be in a small niche market for city cars, charged overnight at home, and all the Public EV Charging Points will have started to decline, either through Fire Risk or because nobody takes their city car on a motorway because of the noise concern from the rattling bottles in the back.

[@stephenminchin4870]

The fact that there seems to be an ‘EV Community’ tells you everything you need to know.

[@Richard-r1x7d]

Good one

[@willielarsson9651]

Haha can you imagine a diesel community..how exciting 😄

[@hkuiper100]

My husband worked in the car industry in Australia as an auto electrician for over 50 years. Ran his own business. Saw masses of cars. Had lots of friends in the motor trade. He's never ever heard of a diesel car fire. Diesel is very hard to ignite.

[@thalesofmiletus2966]

No. Diesel isn’t hard to ignite. How do you think it burns to produce power in an engine? If it was that hard diesel engines wouldn’t work. All you need to make diesel burn is a sustained heat source. Once the diesel starts burning there’s a positive feedback and up it goes. By the way I worked on ships. I saw plenty diesel and heavy fuel oil fires.

[@Geordie023]

It was an electrical fire within the vehicle. It wasn’t a case of the diesel being ignited that caused the fire lol🤣🤣🤣🤣 But if their is a fire near diesel yes the diesel will catch fire and fuel the fire as it is flammable just not as flammable as Petrol.

[@roccprofit]

Yeah reality is that under average daily conditions combustion vehicle's of any type don't just burst into flames just sitting there doing nothing. EV fad fans like to pretend that happens all the time because they use that excuse to avoid reality the same way they always ignore the reality of EVs.

[@stephensalt6787]

Most fires in diesel trucks are caused by brake failure as in an air leak in the brake chamber diaphragm lets the brakes on one wheel come on gently, until heat builds up until combustion starts, the torque in a modern truck makes the friction of one wheel un noticeable.

[@comicmania2008]

Lee's and Geoff-buys-cars vids keeps me going, loving Lee's comedy, while showing the reality!

[@moragkerr9577]

Nah, it's all a complete act. But the comedy is still funny.

[@GT380man]

@@moragkerr9577You’re being paid to comment here. May I suggest you open 4-5 more accounts? You’d be an asset to your paymasters.

[@moragkerr9577]

@@GT380man Lee is the only one being paid here. Making a bomb pretending to hate EVs, and all you Luddite acolytes fall for it.

[@comicmania2008]

Morag taking a break from her council meeting and those triangular sarnies, with the crusts cut off! You should have bought a 1984 Ford Escort. 🤣😂 Edit, and '42 QUID' to travel 160 miles? 'Reality' Morag, I could get about 400 miles driving my ICE Toyota for that amount!

[@shrimpy7430]

#MoragKerr What's your job title & where do you work?

[@stephenminchin4870]

EV’s are a stopping stone on the journey towards the end of the era of personal motorised transport.

[@steveclark..]

Correct, that's one aspect of this Great Reset agenda that's being pushed. I wish that the masses would wake up and help join in on the fight on trying to prevent all our freedoms and choices being taken away.

[@michaelalexander2306]

What worries me about EVs is that, if you pull up to a normal petrol station in a petrol or diesel car, you just fill up and go. The pump doesn't care who you are or where you've come from. When you charge your milk float, the charger interrogates your vehicle - who you are where you've com from and how much money you've got. How long will it be before some future Government Minister comes up with the idea that if you arrive sooner than you should do, the charger will automatically include your speeding fine - and the points on your licence are in the post!

[@seaniepc4]

That is clever and most likely is our future / No to EV's

[@cornishhh]

Coin in the slot chargers would get around this. Or those note eaters that self service checkouts have. I won't hold my breath for anything like that though!

[@cliffyh466]

It's a start off pay per mile, Bcos they know how many miles you have done including Charging at home, they have to communicate with the charger and sends out the data, they know what miles you have done and here's your bill

[@DesperateForSanity]

Vinyl records have come back big time in the US. Favorite service station had nothing to do with the venue but everything to do with the kindness of the attendants. One always washed the windshield and another charged a really fair price for a tire change when they could've easily hosed me. They both had my loyalty for as long as I had my cars.

[@robertwest5999]

I could not stand the sheer stress in owning one of these ridiculous things

[@terry13712]

Just wait until businesses start going out of business. And where their customer numbers plummet due to charging times and grid capacity. Mguy has also given examples on his blog . The numbers are eye watering unless you have a forecourt the size of Heathrow.

[@HaroWoof]

Stress. owned one for 18 months now. I have never had such a stress free driving experience. No drama like Macmaster the Disaster.

[@theclotshotdidit3115]

@@terry13712 a forecourt the size of Heathrow, with a nuclear power station in the middle

[@darrensowerby5631]

Could not think of anything worse than a ev Power cuts 3 day week in the 70s what if that happens again u can never say never or the grid can't take it

[@djtaylorutube]

@@darrensowerby5631 Have you forgotten the Facebook/media incited fuel shortages not that long ago? Similarly, in a power cut, are you expecting the filing stations to be working?

[@chaz3809]

Hi Lee, I love your channel, thanks for all your hard work and opening peoples eyes to EV ownership. My favourite service area is Tibshelf North on the M1. I met my wife for the first time there in 2003. it was through a dating app and as she lived in Sheffield we decided to meet there. We instantly clicked, love at first sight and six months later we married. We had seventeen years of happiness until sadly she died suddenly in 2020. We often thought back to that first meeting at Tibshelf and would stop there if we were passing. I wanted to mark that meeting so wrote to the site manager and asked if he would dedicate a bench to her. He wrote back and said he would gladly do that. I had a plaque made and he fitted it to a bench near the main entrance where we had first met. I was so grateful for his assistance and now if I'm passing I pop in and sit on the bench dedicated to my wife remembering all the happy memories we shared together. If your passing pop in and have a seat and send her my love. Keep up the good work. Chas

[@TheMacMaster]

I like Tibshelf Services :0)

[@technohamster4783]

Ev's are so good that governments have to ban the competition 🤣🤣

[@LoremIpsum1970]

UK with the EV manufacturers held to minimum EV sales quotas and penalties for not meeting those quotas, I'm not surprised all we see is EV adverts...

[@PaulCowcher]

The death knell of the EV has already started. Some just don't like death. None of us do. But sometimes you just have to let things go. An analogy of course!

[@jimfell7147]

The UK has an argument for an ev as in general your trips are short. However, Oz, Canada and the USA will never lend themselves to ev travel.

[@stevesmart4088]

Rubbish! Australia is one of the most highly urbanised countries on the planet. 90 percent of the population live in just 1/4 of a percent of the country's land area. Ideal for EVs particularly if you have solar at home which now is about a third of all homes

[@MrBonito22]

As an O.A.P with not many motoring years left I think I'll stick with my Mazda MX5. Cheers from Australia.

[@rwalkenhorst]

We bought a new Toyota Corolla hybrid in April. We're in the Midwest US. The dealer made no effort to talk us into an electric. They had one all-electric bZ4X in the showroom, with a sticker price about twice that of our Corolla. It had been there a long time. When I went back for scheduled service five months later, it was still sitting in the same spot. Nobody wants it.

[@chatrkat]

Your Corolla hybrid is an excellent car, as are the gasoline Corollas. Toyota clearly has the best hybrid system out there, in my opinion. Also the majority of the Toyota dealerships here in the States are well managed, hopefully you won’t encounter a sales associate pushing electric.

[@rwalkenhorst]

@@chatrkat Yes, we like the car, and the fact that Toyota has been building basically the same hybrid system for so long weighed heavily in their favor (although I would much prefer a diesel like my '83 Jetta turbo if they were still available in the US). The car does suffer from some of the same touch-screen madness that Lee has criticized. It's baffling to me that automobile controls keep getting more and more complicated and distracting. The dealer told me that they have no control over what vehicles they get. Toyota sends cars and they have to sell them. No such thing as "ordering" one anymore. We were on the Corolla hybrid waiting list for about four months. I'm hoping that when the climate police start confiscating ICE vehicles, hybrids will be low priority.

[@chatrkat]

@@rwalkenhorstthat is exactly correct, Toyota dealers have little control on what vehicles they receive here in the US. It’s is possible to order a new car but it takes a relatively long time as Toyota does not like to accept special orders, but they will accommodate if the buyer is willing to wait a long time. ~ Unfortunately electronic controls are what we are stuck with now. Even some of the manual appearing controls in new cars are still electronic in function. I own a 2011 Corolla with 140+k miles. It been a totally reliable little car, everything still functions normally. The body is free of rust, something that is rare in our region. AC never been touched as well, it still freezes you on a hot day. Car has only had regular servicing and finally a new alternator last year. I have no desire at all to replace the car for a long time.

[@Darhythmman]

😂there have been many ‘ merry dances’ forced upon us over the last few years…. Clap at the sky…. Wear a face nappy … walk this way around a shop… etc , the ‘ plan your charge stops’ is the latest dance 😂😂😂😂😂 Bravo sir 👍

[@ZombieKiller1965]

Doesn't matter if someone else vehicle doesn't makes sense. It's none of my business what anyone else chooses to drive.

[@torredchc1768]

In the US it's different. The typical owner thinks they have superior intellect and no one understands tech like them. They purchase the new I phone evey time, they lose money on the newest crypto scam and they think their new tesla is revolutionary new tech and a superior investment.

[@herrtomas6729]

Bought a PHEV. Not upsold into EV. Simply found what I wanted in stock, and bought it. PHEV - best of both worlds, because you are right! Now is not the time for EV for long journeys.

[@dennisnorton3880]

Priceless again Lee, just loving it. Never thought a bloke driving around the UK just chatting could be such a laugh, keep it up mate.

[@CharlieB3723]

Stereotypical EV driver never leaves the house for any journey without a fresh flask of piping hot lemon tea and a tartan blanket.

[@gemmac3371]

With a box of tissues on the parcel shelf, with one tissue perfectly poised out of the box…. 😂

[@GT380man]

@@gemmac3371And a tin of boiled sweets.

[@gemmac3371]

😂😂

[@mikejba]

“You have to be careful these days with people identifying as wheely bins and jacket potatoes” 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@gwenfrance1779]

One school this week had to send a letter to parents saying they would not be supplying litter trays for any pupils that identify as a cat.............

[@mikejba]

@@gwenfrance1779that can’t be true!? Surely not!? What a time to be alive 😂😂😂

[@cornishhh]

@@gwenfrance1779 Or to those who hadn't been toilet trained.

[@seantaylor9758]

I have a 1936 Morris 8 and it always makes me smile when I start this vehicle up and take it for a spin. Even if the battery is flat the option of the starting handle is next! I wonder how long EV's will last and if they really are the future although the battery production is worrying all be it not mined in our back yard.

[@Northanteus]

Wendys, Starbucks, McDonald's... America is taycan over the UK! 😁

[@SPDATA1]

Same in Sweden 🇸🇪. We got all the shite, too. 😮

[@lukedavis436]

Haven't tried Wendy's yet...it looks good, granted I want to try Arbys

[@rbejva]

I bought a second hand petrol Volvo from a dealership this winter. They told me they had multiple EV owners trying to trade in every week. The MB dealer actually had a Tesla, but drew the line when had to drive in the cold with no heating to maintain his range.

[@blick63able]

I thought i had whilst travelling on a 4 hour ferry crossing, if an ev catches fire we are all over board in those orange coloured boats that haven't moved in decades . 😮

[@MartinAyres-dl9wx]

Hi Lee, this comes from a car dealer I know, they are given a target to sell electric vehicles from the government. He also told me not to buy an ev because they are not stable enough.

[@willielarsson9651]

I joined the EV revolution 2 years ago and I'm so fed up with it. If you only drive locally, its perfect...anything else is horrendous

[@Geordie023]

Should have got a Tesla then, their charging network is amazing, reliable, cheap and everywhere.

[@willielarsson9651]

@@Geordie023 is that why up and down the motorways you see teslas on grideserve and ionity chargers?

[@petejames023]

@@willielarsson9651 newsflash they can charge there also if they want but also they have all the Tesla Supercharger Network available to them also.

[@deanmarper2937]

Hi lee brilliant video I paid £800 for my car full service history what's going to happen with people like me who can't afford electric cars

[@DwaynePipes]

At what year in the future do you think that there will no ICE cars available to buy at all?

[@jasonscott2187]

We will all be dead before that happens.@@DwaynePipes

[@theclotshotdidit3115]

​@@DwaynePipesnever going to happen, check out all the manufacturers no longer building EV's, just like the experimental mRNA gene therapy injections, another mistake for gullable people. You can't fix gullable but they can euthanase it by instalments 💉

[@kmack5799]

@@theclotshotdidit3115 Exactly, Ford/GM/Toyota/Honda and now Porsche have decided to ease off or stop production of EV's as theres no demand as if they don't stop, they will go bust! They are loosing billions...

[@DwaynePipes]

@@jasonscott2187 exactly! Which is why I cannot fathom why all of the ICEbergs here are getting so upset about something which will never really affect them?🤔 There's owt strange as folk!🔥

[@markstarmer3677]

Had a couple of Jags in the last six years. Both diesel, and leased. Jag prices have nearly doubled, so going for a Evoque in January, leased of course. No one in their right mind would purchase a new car privately (ice or ev) for over £20k. The amount of money lost on cars is phenomenal.

[@GT380man]

That loss still occurs if you finance it. By the way, I’ve never purchased a car new. The economics never made sense to me. I bought a new motorbike just once and kept it forever.

[@ptaylor5014]

WEF want people in EV's that are basically limited in range and were they can go! 15 min cities for example! they don't want us all travelling about freely.

[@keegan773]

Lithium battery power vehicles are the Betamax of future locomotion.

[@jackwatsonepic626]

Lol 😂 🇬🇧

[@knownpleasures]

It’s merely an EVolutionary process to the get to the finest quality battery 🔋 for motor vehicles of the 22nd century. We are the forefathers of this international technological revolution. The MacMaster is getting the teething issues god help him !

[@johnmorgan1847]

Did you know a fully gargled EV has enough energy to run 88 electric cookers with everything switch on full for a hour (and that's without a thurmostat.) just think how much a million use

[@battz99]

Also the public adopted digital cameras and CDs voluntarily because they were effective and met their needs in an economic way. They didn't have to be rammed down people's throats the way electric cars are being.

[@moragkerr9577]

That's the problem, isn't it. EVs are effective and meet many people's needs in an extremely economic way. Unfortunately the government is putting the ornery section of the public off by seeming to push them. And then people become Lee's little Luddute acolytes, and believe all the crap he spouts to keep his ad revenue stream up.

[@specialkonacid6574]

digital audio is objectively superior, tremendous advantages with digital photography as well

[@moragkerr9577]

@@specialkonacid6574 EVs are objectively superior too. Tremendous advantages compared to ICE cars. Lee picks on the few areas where they're (still) not quite competitive, and milks these for all they're worth. But even there, these are areas that don't impact most owners. Fantastic technology. Wise up.

[@specialkonacid6574]

@@moragkerr9577 what are the advantages?

[@moragkerr9577]

@@specialkonacid6574 Very simple construction with far fewer complications and moving parts than an ICE. Doesn't need nearly so much servicing, so cheaper to run. Fuel costs much lower than an ICE if you use cheap off-peak electricity most of the time, as most people do. Incredibly convenient to fuel up most of the time, just get home, plug in and forget about it. Start every day with a full tank as if the house-elves did it. (This carry-on Lee likes to showcase at the big DC chargers is something most people seldom if ever need to worry about.) Really efficient in city traffic and traffic jams. It will simply inch along forever without consuming much power or overheating or running its 12v battery flat. Similarly, you can camp in it, keeping the heating/aircon on overnight, listening to the stereo, without running an engine or using too much charge. EVs store a lot of electricity which is available for use. On a picnic you can plug in your kettle or your microwave or your barbecue. You can use power tools from it in locations where there is no mains power. During a power cut you can run your house from your EV battery, with the right wiring. (Even if you don't have the right wiring, you can keep vital appliances running using an ordinary extension lead.) Really simple to drive. No gears at all. And even modest EV models have the sort of torque that will leave an ordinary ICE standing at the lights. Great, planted handling thanks to the battery in the floor conferring stability. Finally, if you have the misfortune to drive into a flood, you will probably get through OK in an EV unless it's so deep the car is swept away. It doesn't have the vulnerable air intake that kills ICE engines in floods, the battery and electrics are well sealed against water (have to be, for driving in wet conditions) and the battery underneath prevents water coming up through the floor so quickly. The car behaves like a wheel-propelled raft. Watch some of the flood videos on KZbin. Never seen an EV break down. (I'm not saying it's a good idea to try this, you could soak your carpets and uphlstery with river water, but you almost certainly won't break down and write your car off.) And did I mention that they drive like a dream?

[@Mike_Ockiner]

I worked in used car sales for years and I keep in touch with a lot of the traders. None and I mean NONE of them want to buy used EV's. Some of them don't keep expensive stock so wouldn't buy cars at that price point. However, I know a good few who buy "good stuff" and they will not buy any EV. My local branch of the "Car Store" bought two and lost money on both of them and they sat around for weeks on end. They couldn't give them away. But we are all told how people are buying them in droves and we all love them. Bullshizzle.

[@irwinmorrow1267]

My local independent garage told me not to buy a EV. His words were “there crap!!!” Lol

[@allanbehn2918]

The first EV truck journey in Australia travelled 1200miles and had to charge 7 times. Dont hold your breath for rapid deliveries 😂

[@FrankTimms-cs5hl]

Any perishable cargo would be spoiled by the time it gets delivered. Lots of those refrigerated/reefer trailers use diesel to cool cargo. Making that battery powered would take away even more range🙄

[@cliffyh466]

And the truck was carrying crisps 😂😂😂😂

[@GT380man]

Now try it filled with dog food or beer 😮

[@animal355]

I think the car insurance and home insurance companies will kill off the EV rather than the obvious costs and range issues. With the ongoing risk of fires. Insurance companies don’t like to pay out, so I expect premiums to sky rocket. And I think Lee as already mentioned in a (previously featured) video.

[@melissabushill3005]

My view on electric cars. I live just shy of 300 miles away from my parents. My dad is 81 next year and my mum is closely following behind. He has recently been diagnosed with dementia and my mum has very poor health. If I get the dreaded phone call and need to rush down south in hurry (I live in the NE) the last thing I want to do is sit at Blyth services for 2 hours while the car charges, while am stressed and worried. I will keep with my cheap running diesel for as long as possible.

[@davidb9976]

Can’t sit in a 120k taycan having a go at Range Rover drivers for going Waitrose 😂 brilliant

[@dnoordink]

That's a $40k taycan actually...

[@eliz9369]

Great video brilliantly filmed and really entertaining. Looking forward to next one. Thank you Lee.

[@garywest1269]

Hi Lee, great videos you post. I have a 2022 Kia Sportage PHEV and is brilliant for my needs 43ml ev range, 18ml to work. During the summer months a full tank of fuel lasted me 5 months with plugging in every time the battery was used up. Having travelled 3500 miles the car eventually showed an mpg of almost 500 mpg albeit that doesn't take into account the cost of charging which is always at home or at work for free. On a long run fully laden on petrol use returns 40 mpg. No range anxiety as I said works for me, so glad I didn't buy a full EV. Regs Gary.

[@QueenoftheROG]

Because they will blame diesels for everything because they are an easy target. EV, are great for around town but not fit for the purpose for long distance

[@davidrushfirth]

I can't bring myself to even considering an EV. I'll stick with my 18 year old Vitara thanks. Wouldn't it make sense to finish electrifying the railways and add more goods yards. Then put the long distance goods on there, limit the travel of hgv's to say 50 miles to move the goods from the yards to their destination giving us the saving on CO2. This would reduce the heavy traffic on the roads and no need to expand the charging network. Then perhaps the push towards EV's would disappear.

[@seantaylor9758]

Or put more back of the Dr Beeching destruction where most towns and villages had access to the railway and goods yards.

[@DwaynePipes]

Sure, that'll cost nothing much if HS2 is anything to go by!😂

[@davidrushfirth]

@@DwaynePipes Less per mile than HS2 and no roads to keep repairing. Lets be honest though. HS2 was always about just connecting London to Birmingham and possibly Manchester. If that was put into the justification at ther begining it would never have got off the ground. Reduce HGV traffic, that's the way to go.

[@chrissheridan8947]

I live in a small town in Devon, where it is difficult to park at the best of times. When I asked if it would be possible to have a space reserved for my hybrid car I was told ‘no’ and the reason everyone would want a space outside their home, so I got rid of the car and would never consider buying electric. Besides I live in a first floor flat 😂

[@nsweeney3970]

"Try that in a small town, see how far ya make it down the road" (Jason Aldean) 😂

[@richardhemingway6084]

There is an MG EV that parks outside our house. It is a very shiny and a lovely deep red colour. I admired it and then saw the green stripe, on the number plate. It is owned by an elderly couple, with dogs. They park outside our house, to walk around the back, where we have a recreation field, to exercise their dogs (one in a pram). We refer to them as 'the doggers'. LOL. A very nice gent. I had a quick word with him about the MG and asked if he was pleased with it. "Oh, yes, marvelous, best decision I've ever made". So EV's are OK for doggers and used as a pram.

[@kmack5799]

🤣🤣

[@briancusworth]

As we drove on the motorway at 11am this morning an electric car was hit by a car and came to a halt on the central reservation. At least one other car was involved and no one went anywhere near to the electric car. I got the feeling that this was normal as the police kept their distance. I thought that it might go up in flames.

[@djtaylorutube]

It didn't explode then? How surprising.

[@allanbehn2918]

For 1 car battery; a CAT 994 A, that burns 1000 litres of fuel in 12 hours, needs to move 250 tons of dirt. Ore required; 12 tons lithium silk, 15 ton ore for cobalt, 3 tons ore for nickel, 12 ton ore for copper. 1 battery requires; 12kg lithium, 30kg nickel, 22kg manganese, 15kg cobalt, 100kg copper and 200kg aluminium, steel and plastic. Great for the environment 👏. Peace ✌️

[@johnhollyman7874]

So where do fossil fuel s come from,, i hanging from a tree where you just go and pick a gallon,ask the little girl in London who has died from the effects off living near a main road packed with cars pumping out co2 everyday. - great for the environment.Forgot about the drilling rigs, tankers crude distilleries more tankers all pollluting,I could go on PEACE

[@stewvlogs5084]

These are great videos Lee. They show the real life issues with owning an EV. Love that Grid serve charge forecourt. I go to Colchester once a month and go past Braintree so I will take a look soon. Liked! Great camera work and editing.

[@Twmpa]

Wow, £42.36 to gain around 150 miles of range. I drive a 12 year old 7 seat Citroen Picasso 2.0 diesel and £42.36 of diesel will get me around twice that distance. If any of you EVangelists out there (the lovely Morag perhaps) can convince me of why I should spend 50 - 100% more on a new EV than I would on a new ICE car and then pay twice as much and take ten times as long to refuel it, I am all ears.

[@SDK2006b]

Comparing the running costs of a Citroen diesel to a Porsche - come again 🤣 FYI : charging at home, overnight, is much cheaper : £25 for 600+ miles

[@cliffyh466]

I bet you can't do a 600mile trip for £25 and in a day, if you say you can then race against a diesel from Scotland to Cornwall and say my expressive Tesla is cheaper than a second hand diesel and faster

[@SDK2006b]

@@cliffyh466 : Scotland to Cornwall - Why should that be relevant?!. Literally no one is driving that in the real world on a regular basis. Only in YT entertainment fantasy land !

[@Twmpa]

@@SDK2006b In the real world, around three quarters of car journeys are of less than five miles which, on the face of it seems ideal for EV adoption. This would suggest that a small, inexpensive, modestly powered EV with around 100 miles of range would satisfy the majority of needs. Unfortunately, EV manufacturers are mostly serving precisely the opposite end of the car market with their 70 grand, 3 ton, 5 metre SUVs. Also, most of those short journeys will be in urban areas where a large proportion of that population will not be living in the sort of property they could charge an EV at.

[@phil7301]

I'm a member of the M,A,D group. Yes, the Morag Admiration Department... I love my 17 yr old petrol Fiesta 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿👍😉

[@fishypie]

we are not told the hole story about how the batterys are made and what damage is been done to make them, and also getting rid of old batterys

[@kanecroft5988]

Thank u lee for telling the truth about ev’s ❤️❤️❤️

[@rob103rl]

I tip my hat to you, Sir - exposing the lunacy of battery powered cars, whilst getting paid for it, and getting newer cars provided by Porsche! ;-)

[@frankpecenka5606]

I'm glad to see that you charge your vehicle outside. When it bursts into flames it won't burn your house down.

[@RoyAllanThomassen]

BUT if you know how hot an ev burns you would not charge it close to anyone you like

[@moragkerr9577]

Never been any advice not to charge an EV inside. On the other hand, can I say Zafira at this point?

[@kentvespa]

My brother HAD an electric MG. He swerved to miss a deer and the car went totally out of control, done a 360 and hit a tree and the airbags didn’t deploy so the steering wheel made a right mess of his face. Due to the lack of safety in the MG he decided to replace with a Ford hybrid.

[@MichaelMorphett-i7g]

Hi Lee i do agree with what you say and i think it's down to having a free choice if we want a EV or not. We were not made to by digital cameras or cd,s it was a choice. Another thing stopping me ever having a EV is the price 😮 could never afford one like most people. I've just down sized to a 2011 Citroen C1 995cc cheep to run, tax, repair and puts a smile 😁 on my face.

[@TB-up4xi]

Upfront I declare I own an EV, it suits me and my lifestyle (I have a level 2 charger at home and drive 100mi round trip to work) and the infrastructure is in place for the places that I want to go (both local and long distance), but I can also see how they might not suit everyone, if I had to use public charging 100% of the time for example it would drive me nuts. However, I have also followed / researched EV information for a decent amount of time, EV "information" (both positive and negative) is broken down into 3 categories, 1) true all the time, 2) marginally true in some specific circumstances for some brands 3) outright disinformation, and I can also see the way to make improvements is often to complain about those things that are not working as they should. We've created a significant problem though where the much of commentary , but mainly anti-EV commentary, mixes all of these 3 categories together making the case for change weaker and less targeted, the stereotypical "boy that cried wolf" syndrome. To answer the question at 16:30 - Yes, I own a Tesla AND I fit into the category of getting better than the stated range - but that is irrelevant to the false range fakery / f*ckery...deliberately attempting to overstate the range for higher states of charge (if that's what actually happened) than lower is not the best look, but for balance, if you own an ICE car with a petrol gauge how accurate is it? by way of example, I also own a 2015 Alpha Giulietta - it gets 250mi full to 1/2, but only another 100mi until the warning light comes on, is the petrol gauge deliberately misleading? was it intentionally manufactured that way? and if it is how big a crime is that? While the Tesla SOC range issue can be undone by software changes (again if it's true) unlike the gauge which is there for basically the life of the car but I agree it's not a good look but also not a crime that would attract a life sentence.

[@turn6garage640]

I am from Australia and certain places are have a greater proportion of EVs, especially city centres. For somewhere like Adelaide, where distance isn't too far in the metropolitan areas they are becoming more popular, particularly the BYDs and the MGs. For somewhere like Melbourne, which has a much bigger distance within the metropolitan area, EVs are more concentrated in wealthier suburbs and those closer to the city. Going from one side of Melbourne to another would be a tall order in an EV. However, in regional Australia, there is a lot of distance to travel, EVs in their current guise are unable to cover some of the vast distances on 1 charge, combustion engine cars are still very much needed in Australia.

[@thalesofmiletus2966]

Spot on about CD’s. I don’t think you are personally damaging EV sales. Their reputation precedes them. That’s what is damaging their sales. Not withstanding their higher price.

[@SPDATA1]

Stressful it seems.... I am glad you educate us.

[@moragkerr9577]

It's remarkably relaxing to drive an EV. Lee is the one telling evil lies here.

[@stephenclark4784]

Percy was one of the hardest working trains on Thomas the tank engine. Definitely not electric 😂😂

[@matthewetheridge4535]

I guess he was hardest working because he percy-severed?!

[@chrisayling3882]

Glad your having affect on the subject.

[@robertwest5999]

Just to also say what a good job you are doing telling the whole truth about these cars only fit for round town

[@davidlawton8649]

2 people at work have electric cars. 1 just split with partner, moved out, now has to charge at motorway services on way home as they cannot get to work and back on full charge. Other is an MG and it keeps doing emergency stops by its self for no reason, couple that with that MG that would not stop I don’t have a good perception of MG. Tesla set of fire this week in Australia inside a garage, few weeks ago that Vauxhall did on a UK driveway, EV? No thanks, I will keep to my V6 Diesels.

[@DwaynePipes]

Of course ICE cars are fireproof and never ever go up in flames?🤔😂

[@jasonscott2187]

Very rarely. When they do it is much easier to deal with and far less dangerous.@@DwaynePipes

[@davidlawton8649]

@@DwaynePipes not usually when parked up in your garage with the engine off. It needs a few ingredients and 1 is taken away when the ignition is turned off. Modern EV’s? The right chemistry is always there.

[@theclotshotdidit3115]

​@@DwaynePipesnot unless the owner wants the insurance money, unlike EV's in the news daily. Oh the cognitive dissonance how I love it 😂😂

[@DwaynePipes]

@@davidlawton8649 Google "parked BMW bursting into flames" see if you can spot the one that burned the owners house down.

[@adammcguinness7098]

Wonder would they take their animals to the vets in their Ev or would they be afraid they would ruin the leather 😂

[@arnoldpainal5885]

If I got this right, for this trip, he had to charge overnight and again on the road for another 45 minutes (total of at least 12 hours?), compared to 5 minutes at the gas station to fill up my car.

[@parkecorepersonaltrainingp2601]

Really enjoy the vids. Keep up the amazing work man

[@sargfowler9603]

Hang on a minute. You're saying EVs have pitiful range and now I find out they only have 70% of that range? And in winter on the motorway, it's even less?!? This is the future?

[@WestfieldFreshAir]

The numbers the EVangelists never mention. Max range x 70% x 75% again in winter. That's 52%.

[@duncanpage1556]

Humans will be so fat from all the charging (EATING) hours and hours and hours!!!

[@tombowler6458]

Another Great EV Vlog McMaster. Thank you again for highlighting the limitations of EVs. Just got back from the shops and saw a guy doing laps around a carpark in a Tesla, crawling along at 5mph. Clearly felt the need to show off, what a complete sado 😏

[@cumbria0896]

Maybe he was looking for the non-existent charge point.

[@robg521]

People who work for the council, …. like Morag… A few years ago in the city where I live the council started a war on the motorist, the car parks were charging a couple of quid to park for an hour but suddenly it became fortune if you wanted to park your car there all day. In other words, come to the city to shop and pay a lot for parking, but if you work here then we are going to price you out altogether and force you to not use your car. … But then a local newspaper article appeared where they printed photos of all of the private council owned car parks dotted around town were anyone who works for the council can park for free. ….. So the message is don’t use your car if you work here, but if you work for the council then that’s different and you can have it all for free.

[@moragkerr9577]

For the record, I do not work for the council, I have never worked for the council, and I have no ambitions to work for the council Hope that clears it up for you.

[@moragkerr9577]

But, you know, I understand the logic behind charging motorists a lot to park in a town all day, because they did it to us in Peebles. Come for three or four hours, and it's about 10p. Or free. Because people who come for that length of time are spending money right here. People who park all day have got into the bus for Edinburgh, where parking is simply impossible, and are spending their money (or perhaps earning it) in Edinburgh. While blocking parking places that could be used by people wanting to spend money in Peebles. Don't want that.

[@robg521]

@@moragkerr9577 Well that’s a plus point, 👍👍🙂

[@DaveGreen-sl5id]

Thank goodness for the logic and common sense of the MacMaster. All delivered with humour. You are telling it as it is about EV ownership in the Real 🌍 World .. We subscribed to your channel ages ago. Keep up the great work from your friends in the High Peak.

[@marxman00]

AI is trying to entice humans into metal boxes to... Exterminate...Exterminate..

[@coolspace2136]

I live in the states and love watching your videos. EV's are being pushed hard here as well. Hunter Biden's daddy wants all of us to run out and plink down $50-60k on one. We have the luxury of passing on up to $7500 to our $33.7 trillion national debt for every one of these we buy. Oddly enough, I'm interested in these damn things as more of a mid-life crisis toy or curiosity. If I get an EV, it won't be soon and will only be as a second car for around town. The charging infrastructure is lagging for these things here in the states where it's a zillion miles to anywhere you want to go. I greatly appreciate your honesty and that you speak the reality of EV's without ownership bias.

[@TheMacMaster]

Hello USA.

[@pavman42]

I think I saw one Tesla model I thought didn't look like a nurse's shoe. Unfortunately, that was the roadster which they stopped making and had tons of problems. What's disturbing is now other car companies are following the fugly shoe design and it's disturbing because no one wants to drive around in a shoe.

[@robertkubrick3738]

It's form follows function. Maximum size for the aerodynamics. EV must be aerodynamic or low speed. Drag kills range.

[@TekinBozbey]

For battery healty, it shouldn't be charged everytime more than %85. The range what they declare is reachable only when the weather is 24.C if it is hoter or colder range gets low. You shouldn't use AC or Heater. You should drive very very calm. So if you are lucky, you can reach half range.

[@moragkerr9577]

Where do you get such nonsense?

[@pfa1981]

I really enjoy your EV videos they are really entertaining.

[@lawreence13]

You have to ask this question: Why do the automobile industry and the oil producers say nothing about this?

[@esecallum]

WEF infiltration is massive

[@tyrantwitness2482]

Just wait for the message: Sorry you are outside the permitted range! We are unable to provide electricity for your vehicle! 100 points have been deducted from your social credit score!

[@Poshpanda-09]

That's not a green car.. 🍏🫣😷 In The Middle Ages, 95% of people never went outside their village. That's the future.

[@peterpeaceful2971]

EV‘s should be great for the 15-minute cities.

[@tripzincluded8087]

without roads and garages?.. hahaha

[@JosephPalmerT5D5]

If I were you Mac, I wouldn't be so concerned with the evangelists, I'd be more concerned that your content reached the ears of those who are pushing the EV agenda.

[@frederickkay4308]

Well done Lee for making these videos i can’t wait to watch this one mate. Bringing us all the real information too us thank you

[@Paul_Wheller_with_an_h]

Still enjoying these videos, beautiful car, shame about it's archiles heel. I was talking to an HGV driver the other day, and the subject of roadkill animals came up, and we both agreed the numbers seemed to be increasing. Maybe this is down to more silent running EV cars on the road, not giving much warning to them.

[@djtaylorutube]

They're anything but silent. Go and listen to cars traveling above walking speed. Most noise is tyre noise.

[@BigWhoopZH]

I like your humor and energy (no pun intended) Very entertaining. Cheers from Switzerland 🇨🇭

[@fredfred2363]

The message Lee is putting over is this- EVs are a solution for transport, but ONLY when all your circumstances meet the needs of the car. You can charge at home. You don't travel long distance. You are never in a hurry when travelling. Your time is not valuable (you don't lose income if just hanging around). You have an above average disposable income, to pay many higher than usual car related costs. Yes, I do like EVs. They're perfect for city use.

[@moragkerr9577]

Oddly, I think more people in the country are buying EVs than in the cities? Would you ban that? The reason us that more houses have driveways, and a lot of us don't have petrol stations close by. And also, because the versatility is much more than you indicate. With a range of 200-300 miles, you can do that every day, again and again, without ever having to *see* a public charger, or waste a moment of your life charging. 200-300 miles takes you a lot further than around the city or to the shops. It covers most people's daily needs with a lot to spare. And the cars are great if you're in a hurry, because they go like the clappers. Did someone mention torque? And that you never have to hang around fuelling them, even to the extent of holding a petrol pump nozzle?

[@Geordie023]

What higher cost? My Tesla Model 3 Performance cost me £5 a week to charge, £327 to insure and never needs servicing apart from a cabin air filter as and when a decide to change it. Break pads should last a got 5-8 years as the car use regenerative braking mostly & no road tax.

[@MartinHouston42]

Need a lot of income to deal with spiralling EV insurance costs.

[@moragkerr9577]

@@MartinHouston42 Mine is about £400 a year.

[@MartinHouston42]

@@moragkerr9577 bet that will go up. While EV batteries are so dangerous once damaged insurance costs will only go one way. As the EV stock on the road grows and ages nasty thermal runaway incidents will get more and more common. I would never choose to park next to an EV but cannot control if one decides to park next to you.

[@roccprofit]

Plus vinyl hasn't gone anywhere. Record players are still available. EVs aren't even a stepping stone. EVs are a delusion that we go through every so often and every time they have the exact same problem in that you can't put enough battery into them to make them practical because of the weight of the batteries.

[@whippydesign]

Cds came and went..... but vinyl never went away. Also, it is older technology yet far superior.

[@DwaynePipes]

Yup, sure is. In fact my wife and I are just off down the road to buy a horse and carriage. Much better than those dangerous metal fire traps of all kinds. 😂

[@richardbartlett6932]

Re the MG runaway car 'After that, a police officer jumped into my car and did something which seemed to keep the car still." I guess we always wanted to know what happened to Steve Austin after he left the show. ! Basically the guy didn't' know how to drive or stop his own car.. I await the full report by MG regarding this story. It smacks of 💩

[@rosec3452]

If you know how dirty the coffee machine is you’d never drink coffee again 😂

[@robertkubrick3738]

It's worse after they partially clean the coffee machine.

[@andyhowlett2231]

You're quite right about this craze for huge SUV's and 4x4's. Massive things, more often than not with a tiny woman struggling to see out. There's an elderly couple just down the road who cram 'his & hers' Range Rovers onto their small drive and they have to play musical cars every time one of them needs to go out. They live alone, do not have pets and do not deal in antique sideboards, so I honestly cannot understand why they bought these things. Surely if you *have* to have two cars, wouldn't a pair of Picantos or Fiat 500's be more convenient (and a damned sight cheaper)?

[@robertkubrick3738]

I would want my 2 vehicles to have different capabilities. I have a Toyota Fortuner, a Hilux, a Hyundai Accent turbodiesel and an Mitsubishi L300 diesel that has not a single computer on it and mechanical injector pump, the end of the world vehicle that carries 14 people.