The Truth about FREE Healthcare in Canada. Canadians talk about the GOOD, the BAD, and the UGLY.

[@jaredfaa]

这样的免费医疗你觉得好吗？ 你住的地方医疗是怎么样的？记得留言告诉我！ Do you think Canadian healthcare is good? What is the healthcare system like in your country? Let me know down below!

[@richorpet7554]

比中国好

[@TV-mn1zd]

great video

[@JackLChen]

Norway got a similar system but you have to pay a small sum to see your GP, emergency room, and the GP would also have to refer to see specialists (usually 2/3 of the cost is paid by taxes) But if you get really ill and in need of an ambulance and hospitalization, that's free, the same with the medication, the government will pay most of the cheapest drug, but it's free while you're in an institution (like in a caring home, hospice, hospital etc.)

[@iiehui5488]

那是因為不用錢沒代價,我覺得應該收一點費用比如2元，3元當然真沒有可以找社工真沒钱應該每間醫院駐一名社工,有些人真不自覺不去醫院也不打電話

[@smwk2017]

My uncle went to a Montreal hospital's emergency room due to COPD. After waiting the whole day, he was sent home at midnight. They told him to return tomorrow. They prioritize the patients; and my uncle was not urgent enough for immediate treatment.

[@angelaxue8337]

Chinese-Canadian here, just wanted to add a few things. First, what is covered or not covered can be complicated and may differ by province. In Ontario, a lot of services (vision, dental, physical therapy) are covered for those under 19 and elders but not for the general public. So for those services you have to pay out of pocket or through private health insurance. Most drugs are not free if you are not hospitalized (though they are quite affordable compared to the US), but specialized brand-name drugs can still cost a lot. Also, it's not that easy to switch family doctors as there is currently a shortage. Doctors who are taking patients will prioritize those without a family doctor so unless you move it is difficult to switch. The visits to family doctors are free but there are small fees for signing forms and other things, so it's not completely free. Personally I prefer to call our system nationalized healthcare instead of "free" healthcare because ultimately it's not free, and often there are still out of pocket costs.

[@MoyusAngle]

True!

[@rowenakwan5888]

And it's all paid for with our tax money. Employers have to pay into it, and everyone who makes above a certain income has to pay the health tax on their tax return every year. Although the health tax is very affordable, just a few hundred $.

[@zhimingsha6466]

Hey Jared, one thing you forget mention is that many specialties are not covered here. I live in Ottawa Ontario and I had to have my wisdom teeth removed in January, it costed me 2k in total to get it done. Seeing dentists and mental health professionals are not covered at all. The backlog is indeed a problem, and also the lack of family doctors too. Many med school graduates don’t wanna go into family medicine anymore and this creates a huge problem here in Ontario at least.

[@smwk2017]

I worked for a Canadian company before, it offered eye and dental care insurance to employees.

[@zhimingsha6466]

@@smwk2017 that’s private insurance tho. I have one from my university student union too but they only cover up to a percentage.

[@smwk2017]

@@zhimingsha6466 Some companies offer good group insurance. In US, teacher's union is powerful; generally, teachers have better health care insurance than most.

[@retto1155]

^^ This tbh, if you're lucky your job can cover a part of it (incl. prescriptions/aftercare services), but it's still not entirely "free". I got extremely lucky when OHIP (Ontario Health Insurance Plan) covered a surgery that was very necessary but "not medically a priority" in full, though I had to wait two years for it. I also had to do the legwork and find a surgeon that would accept payment through OHIP, as not all of them do. And that's not even mentioning the absolute mess that is mental healthcare. Oof. Hopefully one day more of our tax dollars can be invested in healthcare of all kinds to all people so that we don't need to make the morally challenging decision to prioritize some people over others. (And maybe considering making medical school more accessible so that we can get more doctors!!)

[@wsljoan]

In Canada (and many other countries), dentistry and mental health professions are considered totally separate fields than medicine (i.e., they're not a "specialty" in medicine). Dentists for example don't go to medical school to get a MD, they go to dental school and get a DDS/DMD. That's one of the reasons the government doesn't cover these dental services. Most companies do have some coverage (albeit limited) for dental/mental health services, so do universities for students. Mental health services is also more nuanced: if you have a psychiatric issue (psychiatry falls under medicine), then the services by the government. Things like therapy, counselling etc are done by psychologists and other mental health professions, which don't fall under "medicine", and therefore usually not covered. But this depends on the province you're in, and whether you're a child (most services are free for children, at least in Ontario), and some services are subsidized.

[@smwk2017]

In US, many Chinese restaurant workers either don't have any health care insurance or are under-insured. Without insurance, US hospital can still admit you for emergency. If it is not an emergency (such as cancer treatment), they can deny treatment and doctor visits. In US, 2/3 of all personal bankruptcies are due to medical debt.

[@wsljoan]

I'm a healthcare worker in Canada, just want to clarify: there's a triage process in the ER to identify and prioritize those with the most serious, time-sensitive issues. If you come to the ER with a gunshot wound or an arm chopped off, you'll get treated immediately! But if you walk in with a stomach ache/fever, you'll be seen by a triage nurse who will determine if it's something minor (e.g., fever from a flu which will pass by itself, and there's nothing they can do other than give you an Advil), or if there's a more serious problem (e.g., appendicitis). （实在懒得翻成中文，朋友们查查 “triage” （分诊）应该就明白了）

[@babyAli1]

We use triage at the A&E too in HK, the translation in Chinese is 分流 (this is the word we use in HK)

[@freemanc6258]

I walked into the emergency department of a public hospital with a high fever and was lucky enough to see a doctor on duty within five minutes. Was instantly diagnosed as appendicitis and shipped in for a double check, the result of which was positive. It became my first time in an ICU. The appendix was later found to have been ruptured, a life and death situation if not taken care of promptly. Thanks God that no nuclear acid test was required otherwise I would be dead man now.

[@freemanc6258]

I was kept in a single room with a shower room in the ICU unit for a week and a dedicated team was working on me… no cost from my pocket. I was released when as my situation was well under control and the operation was arranged and postponed and finally completed after eight months, which was acceptable to me as the hospital was busy dealing with another wave of COVID. Some other patients made their way to save my life and I need to do the same for other people. I am really grateful for the team there who literally saved my life 😝

[@scathach2815]

It works tbe same way here in the US. Honestly the Canadian health care sounds similar enough to USA's except we pay a shitton for just everyday shit.

[@TV-mn1zd]

thanks!

[@Wind815]

当我第一次因为急症在新加坡某个医院急诊等待区的冷气中裹着毯子抖了6个小时后见到医生时，发现他在慢条斯理的喝咖啡和同事聊天，我就意识到恐怕没有哪个国家的普通医生比中国的更敬业工作环境更苛刻了🙃

[@bencheung3036]

不用收紅包嗎？

[@社会牛]

@@bencheung3036 收红包都是病人亲属给养出来的，最开始可没收红包的，都是家属主动送，就包括我的亲戚都是，我姥爷住院的时候，都是我舅舅主动找主刀医生送红包，人家可没跟我们要，也没说不给红包就不给开刀。

[@huahuo2000]

@@bencheung3036 时代变了，以前大把收，现在收了就丢饭碗谁敢收

[@roblox-rq3tn]

我这个台湾人属实觉得过分了啊

[@huahuo2000]

@@hanjinlun1103 In my city，I am a hundred percent sure about that.

[@kch0505]

Great to see your Dad recovers so well, excellent interview very informative, job well done!!

[@di5606]

American here. And yes we are jealous of Canadian healthcare. In america, even if you are lucky enough to have health insurance, you have deductible and copay to pay. My deductible for the best insurance my employer offers is $7500 per year, and that is on top of my $350 per month premium.

[@xiangren7943]

That’s crazy in BC where Jared lives you pay $37 a month for the insurance and there’s no deductible or copay ….

[@skoobiedew7967]

The deductible is $7500 per year??!!! That's ridiculous!! How is that still called insurance? What are you exactly insuring? You are practically paying for it already.

[@Charles-ns6jh]

Happy to see that your dad is recovering. It's very thoughtful that you're there with your dad, especially method like this.

[@niayoung371]

太棒了 第一次看你的视频 发现你很了解中国人 基本上把我对于加拿大医疗的困惑都问清楚了 你和爸爸都很有逻辑 说的都很明白 以后决定当你的粉丝

[@zhouanson3275]

上个月我被鱼骨头卡住了，当时是把骨头吐出来了。但是几天后咽喉还是感觉到痛，我去看家庭医生，结果被转去看专科。等我打电话约好时候是5天后。结果等专科打电话来comfirm我后天的apointment时，我已经好了！同样的情况，在国内时我去急诊前后5分钟搞掂！

[@TATA-yf2mm]

Such a nice video! Very comprehensive and clear. Good to see your father recovers so well.

[@TheGLOSSette]

I like our free healthcare cus you don't have to worry about getting basic care (even if its an emergency situation requiring to go to the ER) since money is not an issue. The only thing that sucks is surgery wait times. My parents come from Taiwan and I know a lot of their friends or other Chinese people tend to fly back to get surgeries down (if they can still fly) cuz it can be down within a couple months. I think you still need to have valid ID and medical card which I don't have (left when I was 3 months old). So i guess i will need to wait like every Canadian when/if i need surgery

[@filipgrkovic5671]

祝您的爸爸一切都好，身体永远健康🙏

[@waroc-ng]

祝福您一家人都平安，謝謝資訊✟ anyway，傑里德的老爸也帥帥的。

[@albertturkington490]

I would say Singapore's healthcare system is the best overall. They have been able to control costs throughout the system by keeping economic incentives in play, which enables most people to afford quality Healthcare through their mandatory health savings accounts (which I think is a fantastic idea). At the same time, the few that still can't afford care can be taken care of by the government at a very modest cost to the taxpayer. Both very practical and compassionate at the same time.

[@prettygirl13298]

Oh course! For a country as tiny as S’pore, everything should be free

[@MoyusAngle]

I think Singapore‘s healthcare is more effective.

[@davepsk7334]

We have free heathcare here too. Medicine and doctor to operation all free. That is provided by the government but you can get private ones too, if you pay for it. For the free part it's ok, we're used to the waiting in line and less pro doctors who are not permanent, they get transfered around so you probably won't be seeing the same doctor after a few months. Main part is because we are not highly paid employees mostly, so we make do with what we have. As long as there's doctors to see us and medicine to help. For emergency cases the government do have immediate free service at the main hospitals.

[@skoobiedew7967]

Glad to see the surgery went well. Your dad is looking good after the surgery. Good stuff!! :)

[@evadelle9153]

Thank you, Jared and your dad for the informative coverage about Canadian health care. We live in Vancouver, my husband has been waiting for his surgery for acid reflex for 2 years. His surgery got cancelled twice the day before, because they told him there is a emergency lung transplant(we suspect was for covid pts). Anyway, we waited and waited, to the point we almost thinking to fly to Taiwan or Boston to get the surgery done. We also get bumped because cancer pts also have more priority than us, we are on the bottom of the priority list. He is suffering everyday to sleep, because he can't lie flat, his neck never get rest due to him sitting up sleeping. We know it's not a hard surgery, but if we were going to do it in Boston , this type of surgery is 25k US dolllar +other testing fee, our flights, food, airbnb. we think it would be at lest 35k us which is 45k Canadian. that's almost an average person's whole year salary after tax. We are very disappointed in the canadian health care system.

[@归零-f9p]

非常好。清晰了解加拿大医疗。

[@smwk2017]

Canadian health care is not tied to employment. Even if you are unemployed, you are still covered by the province.

[@wsljoan]

Putting quotas on procedures is total b***sh*t: it doesn't actually save the government money (because people will develop more serious problems while waiting, or doctors will use a different and often more expensive procedure that doesn't have a quota), it also creates backlog that eventually needs to be dealt with. Everyone who needs the procedure will still have it done eventually, but the delay causes much more problems/costs. Health care workers and researchers have tried time and time again to explain this to politicians, but they never listen!

[@graceliang2227]

My twins were born earlier, they were in NICU for more than 20 days,we don't need to pay,,at this point, I really appreciate for that.

[@zyx2942]

Yes! Although the wait time is not as bad sometimes, some would have to wait for months, and by then even the not-so-serious illness becomes serious, I actually didn't know about the backlog system though. 而且一旦做完手术后也只会让你住院几天。我的手术当时不是很严重所以刚从麻醉醒来后就被踢出来了 XD.

[@murrymu4632]

因为之前是在电视上看所以还没留言，首先祝手术成功，太棒了！要好好休养。 感觉加拿大和英国这方面似乎很像，有免费医疗但需要排队。 5:20 非常幸运 6:36 哈哈哈哈 杰里德有个非常棒非常可爱的家庭，家人之间关系亲密，互相之间又可以相处的像朋友。 11:37 👍👍👍

[@celinaduguay6484]

I'm from Windsor, Ontario. My family doctor is only in his office at the clinic only one day a week. In October I had swollen tonsils and at that time it took me a week or longer to be able to get to see the doctor because I had to book an appointment via phone. Dental care is also weird, it's free for children up until before they turn 18 through a program here in Ontario. I had all my wisdom teeth removed in March 2020 and it costed maybe $1200 or more as I had the surgery done at the hospital. Braces are expensive too, I need them plus a tooth surgery with it but it costs over 8k which I don't have. Also about hospitals here, ambulances cost money. My city/town is small and everything it's 10 years behind time and so if you need a certain surgery and the hospital doesn't have the equipment, you have to travel to London to get it done. If a child goes to the hospital and needs certain medical care done, the hospital might not have the medical equipment, so the child will have to get transferred to the children's hospital in London where they have better medical care and equipment.

[@henryhuang6080]

As same as China, but not free in China. We need get a certain medical care in a bigger city. And you will need a family or a friend to take care of you in hospital, cause the nurse will not to do that.

[@FA-vc3hq]

3 things not mentioned but available in Australia: 1. Paid GP(family doctor), so you pay a small fee to access them a lot quicker. 2. ED in private hospitals. You pay a fixed amount upfront but can be seen quicker. Also requires private insurance in case you need to be admitted. 3. Private health insurance

[@rtgtx]

Awesome interview, very informative. Thank you, Jared and your dad!

[@francesmitchell5237]

I really have always been jealous of Canadians for their health care. I can literally see Canada from my bedroom window, but I have to pay hundreds of dollars more for everything than the people right over there do.

[@sabrinabai7000]

But Canadians pay more taxes 😅, it’s honestly the same thing

[@francesmitchell5237]

@@sabrinabai7000 It's more cost efficient for the government to pay for medical care for everyone with taxes than for us to pay for our own medical care but pay less in taxes. If you're lucky and there's never anything wrong with you, then I guess you personally lose with that system. I haven't been lucky.

[@TV-mn1zd]

yes!

[@jeremydespair]

@@sabrinabai7000 just think of it like splitting your medical bills with everyone, it's much cheaper, and that is if you get sick

[@henrykwieniawski7233]

@@jeremydespair Sorry, but I don't wanna pay other people's medical bills. Now, I don't like the mandatory medical insurance system because of how broken and corrupt it is, but I'd rather have that system than a socialist medical care system.

[@kellyjo181]

欣赏爸爸和儿子之间的互相尊重，和朋友关系。对我来说很高级。一点没有“我是你爹！”的高高在上。

[@godismemermusic3113]

虽然是免费的，但是得等很长时间。刚来加拿大那会儿我哮喘犯了，晚饭之前进医院，晚上12点才等到医生。

[@uuleo4220]

看情况，有次药物过敏我救护车到了就看。还有次磕破头，等了8小时。。。那边看医生时间完全取决于你严不严重能不能安稳活到几个小时后看医生。医院心里有数😂

[@whygamewhy]

说自己胸痛，喘不上气，马上给你安排，说自己骨折了，等着吧。

[@snowerhsu1684]

@@whygamewhy 哈哈哈哈哈哈。。。太形象了！！！！

[@lulululu1u]

我肚子疼进过一次医院抽了血，验尿，结果没有让我回家等。然后回去又疼得要死再去一次之前的医院急诊发现关！门！了！！！！急！诊！居！然！关！门！了！然后去了另一个医院的急诊肚子已经疼得在地上滚的程度🙃天亮才有人看我。说需要我做ultrasound但是他们人没上班让我等他们上班了再去做吧🙂🙂🙂我就在急诊睡了一晚

[@chriswestwood3289]

My landlady's husband was died when waiting in the emergency room. Hours waiting is normal.

[@kevinw6167]

感受过中美两边的医疗，中国是为了效率，服务更多人，所以医生很忙碌，无法在每个病人身上花费更多时间，不过医生的技术，特别是那些需要病例训练的技术真心好；美国是追求品质，或者说是为能进入医疗流程的人提供更高质量的服务，所以等待成为常态，而且一直觉得美国医疗费用里有很大的水分，医疗保险的使用和定价有些夸张了。整体感觉是常规病症中国医生比较牛，疑难杂症美国会有更新的技术应对。

[@MsGao-rf2ox]

加拿大两方面都不行

[@東隅]

如果遇到倾家荡产都不够的大病呢

[@seabobocn]

@@東隅 商业保险咯，现在中国也在搞普惠制的商业保险，在支付宝和微信都有卖，然后就是各个城市的普惠补充医疗保险~

[@gggccc44]

@@seabobocn 还有一些捐助互助等，支付宝也在搞，我每天都尽量做任务捐爱心，不用花钱就能帮助人感觉很好。

[@Vancbenson]

@@MsGao-rf2ox 加拿大有几家医院也是排名世界前列，你凭借什么说都不行？我爸爸在上海就是主治医师，他们医院有时候也会请加拿大医生去做手术得！

[@rosschow981038]

Canadian medical service is similar to Hong Kong in some way. But the waiting time is muuuch longer. For some non-emergency surgery (e.g. gallstone), it wait for 3 years.😝

[@陈鑫-b5r]

胆结石拖三年？有可能最初只需要微创手术就能解决，三年后可能就会开腹才能解决了。对人体影响区别就太大了。

[@vincentng2392]

Hong Kong has private hospitals but Canada has none!

[@pinkcichlid]

The fundamental difference is Canada doesn't generally allow private healthcare, this makes the difference between life and death though.

[@Vancbenson]

上个月突然胃超级难受 不能吃东西 之后决定去了温哥华的急诊 没想到不到半个钟头医生就出来给我看病了 还包括抽血 真得比之前好太多啦

[@hofelt3936]

I wonder if the price of medical treatment in Canada is cost-based? One of the biggest causes behind the ridiculous “chargemaster” pricing in the US is that most of the health insurance companies and medical providers are privatized. As a result the charge is determined by both parties and the process is not transparent to the patients at all🤷🏻‍♀️

[@RYCali]

Paying more in USA for PPO is definitely better, because waiting and getting referral truly sucks. Reminds me of HMO here, which is ok for young people though.

[@lilliansisley2496]

I would like to clarify that medicine is NOT FREE in Canada. Take an example in Ontario, medicine is not cover by Health Card if you below 65 years old. So, as your father said in the video, medicine is free maybe because he is over 65 years old. By the way, the price of medicines are expensive compared to in China.

[@anniehuang6321]

Eh I'm 21 and I'm on prescription meds. It's more often on my side than not. But in some cases, you'll need to look deep if you want to get better medication and have no private insurance though. For some medication, the insurance practically available for the public but the government wouldn't really make it available. Jared's dad's comments resonate with my experience a lot more than the commenters in ON ngl. But we're both in BC so it makes sense.

[@pinkcichlid]

Even over 65 he has to pay meds himself, I think he's still working and got meds covered by work insurance, he's just confused. Lots of Canadians are like him, there were discussions on Reddit, I was so surprised so many people don't understand work healthcare insurance is actually not part of the government "universal healthcare" system.

[@hjwchristina]

很久很久以前我手臂上长了一个良性肿瘤，去医院看 说要等一年半，硬生生拖到第二年暑假我回国， 去门诊部几百块钱就做了🙃

[@honeybadger8303]

The severity that dictates priority is at the mercy and accuracy of a physician’s diagnosis. In certain areas misdiagnosed cases are rampant. Whether prescription drugs are free or not depend on insurance. Provincial’s does not cover a broad range as opposed to work place insurance. Many insurance do not cover ED medications such as Cialis. A friend of mine ended up having her surgery done for her ovary cancer in Malaysia due to the long wait in Canada. Heart attack will bump you up the priority list. Misdiagnosed cases include amputating the wrong arm which was horrible for an old lady.

[@jtanpopo82]

稍微有点恐怖。虽然说是按轻重缓急给排队做手术，但病情不好说，肯定有变化，不然不会说有人能排队排死了。。。所以说到最后就是存钱吧，关键时刻保命用。。。

[@ye561]

We have a similar medical system. I think it is very good with free healthcare for every resident. Our government promotes voluntary self-insured medical care. Citizens with medical insurance would visit private doctors and hospitals to get faster services here in HK.

[@MM-eo5ij]

It's quite misleading. 1. It's not easy to change another family doctor in Toronto now as Family doctor is not enough. You can change whenever you want twenty years ago. 2. We have to pay for medicine in Toronto. May be it's free in other Province.

[@alexanderghyc6071]

在加拿大给我预约核磁共振 等了一年 😆😆然后决定飞回国做 但是加拿大看病氛围很好

[@levylee8385]

西班牙这边的话也是免费医疗，包括留学生，申请签证时需要购买医疗保险，300欧元左右一年，但是门诊预约需要很久，一般一个月可能。急诊看医院or医疗中心，正常emergency的话等1>2h，预诊倒是很快15min可以进去，然后等有医生负责处理解决问题，用药or注射全程免费，但是后续的药物需要离开医院去药房购买，医生会给处方，但是一般不会很贵，普通的病症需要的药物大概10欧元左右就可以

[@pinkcichlid]

西班牙有可以自费的诊所吗？或者walk-in clinic？加拿大很少允许自费医疗，所以拍个片子什么的就要等好几个月。

[@autumnchan7800]

澳門老太太說，其實免費醫療都一定有這樣等到天荒地老的情況，澳門有一樣相比加拿大好，就是稅費不高。想不用擔驚受怕等，就自己付費。醫療手術保險就是這樣在澳門十分普遍，其實最終都是由自己荷包出錢。

[@sikevon8903]

中国国内医疗效率还是很高的，稍微好点的城市技术也很好，单纯手术比欧美要好得多（熟能生巧），医保大部分也能覆盖。除了一些罕见病，需要特殊设备，特殊药物可能发达国家才有优势吧。

[@landen8199]

中国任何行业的效率是以什么为代价的，自己心里没点数吗？中国任何一个行业的时薪你能换到的实物和发达国家时薪对应能换到的东西比较一下。

[@landen8199]

说白了压根就不尊重劳动医生的收入，全靠那些不能明说的东西。

[@pgrzh7970]

怪不得杰里德这么聪明，原来有这样睿智的老爸

[@maggiefan8365]

There is no such thing as a free lunch. 免费，还能立刻就有医疗服务，这个是不可能的，都是根据医疗紧急程度排队，急诊也一样，不是先到先看，谁紧急谁先看，也算合理科学。坐标大温三联市，也算Jared 的邻居，目前看家医一周就能预约，B超啊验血啊基本两周，核磁检查要几个月，如果不紧急。考虑到这些检查都是免费 不紧急，也不介意等。但是比较紧急的，比如我一次感觉胸口有压力，其他正常，是立刻给约了心电图还有心脏专科。有工作有extended benefits, 就更好一些。处方药，理疗按摩针灸，牙科，心理干预等等，都能cover 不少，在额度内都基本不用自己付钱。

[@nnn8584]

感觉叔叔说的很有道理，增加手术的台数。但是从另一个角度，谁也不确定这些医生每天做几台会疲劳会产生意外，有的医生体力好可能能做5，6台，有的只能做2，3台。但是可能政府也没办法按照每个医生的情况来安排台数，之能选一个很保守的数量。

[@justbekilledbyvoidtoo4354]

Thanks a lots for sharing.

[@iiehui5488]

加拿大必須支持！

[@Zerpentsa6598]

As you father pointed out, medicine for most people, is not completely "free" because there is a fixed charge, like as in the UK. In many cases, that charge can be more than buying the drug over the counter if it's not a restricted one like aspirin. Certain people like pensioners, children, very poor on state support, and special long term illness sufferers qualify for exemption from charges or if dispensed by a hospital. But prescription charges have been steadily rising and putting people off taking their medicines. Such people such as those who can't qualify for state support and who are on low income.

[@aurorazhang3268]

When I went to my family doctor and told her I want to do some regular health check "体检“. My doctor measured my weight and height and blood pressure. That's all she can do. That is why I want to order some blood tests to get a complete picture of my heath situation.

[@julie4570]

祝叔叔早日康复！杰里德我发现你和苏苏长得越来越像了哈哈，虽然你俩一个中国人一个加拿大人，但我每次都会微妙的觉得你俩真的有夫妻相，很神奇！

[@gggccc44]

好像有论文还是什么的，说两口子外貌会相互靠拢

[@mandyli9584]

作为留学生 真心觉得这个视频很有用

[@吴烨圭]

只能说我身边留学的朋友不多，但是几乎都是在没有本地医疗保险及没人照顾情况下，等不了排队，生熬，熬不了的飞回国。

[@MoyusAngle]

不同的省有所不同是不是？像我在安省，药是要自己付钱买的，不管处方还是非处方药。没去过其他省，所以不清楚。手术看医生都不另付钱

[@wl6067]

weird, I've never got the free prescription drugs, even for some basic antibiotics, there are generic ones, they are cheaper but not free, and also pharmacy will charge dispensing fee.

[@jaredfaa]

Yeah, sorry about that... We weren't specific enough on that. You're right. Basic prescriptions are reasonably cheap. If you're low income or a senior citizen you can also be eligible for free medication.

[@pinkcichlid]

@@jaredfaa I'm pretty sure here in BC even seniors aren't eligible for free medications. Fair Pharmacare might provide a bit of subsidies for low income/seniors, but most of people are responsible for their own med bills after they retire.

[@Bara0]

The U.S. is pay to live and me being poor, i am very jealous of many other country's healthcare. I've been sick since mid May and still haven't been able to see the exact doctor i need. I got a stat referral weeks ago and still havent been able to get in (ive called and left messages after appropriate times too), this country and its systems are nightmares :/

[@Bara0]

​@Shiya Li ok??? i dont understand why you've said this, what does this have to do with friendship, stranger?

[@jeffreyINAus]

same as Australia Medicare

[@AG-gx9om]

眼科和牙科没有介绍到，希望也能做一期视频介绍一下。

[@xingxin0888]

我小学五年级时在意大利，耳朵有些听不见别人说话，然后去专门的儿童耳科看，看了半年都没有好转，因为医生只是帮我检查了一下，然后给我开了一些滴在耳朵里的药水😫，等的时间实在是太长了，每次去都只是检查一下，没有别的动静。后来直接一张飞机票，托人把那时候的我带去中国看医生，结果一个星期解决了😭

[@soyasuwabe7898]

walk-in clinic误诊率是非差高的而且医生基本不会碰你，都是隔着老远让你坐着然后问你自己感受到的症状然后把症状输入电脑，然后告诉你“you are ok” 有时候药都不开就让你回家了

[@Brick-Life]

A similar system to Australia

[@peternoftall1004]

Taiwan's health care is amazing.

[@maggiezeng6750]

新西兰也是一样的

[@chriswestwood3289]

Medicine is paid thru insurance. If you don't have insurance coverage, you need need to need to pay the bill. Medicine is not free if you are not hospitalized.

[@mckenthyaus5915]

one question bro, is it free to see specialist in Canada? As I know in Australia, it is very expensive even I got private insurance!

[@wsljoan]

Yes, any specialty that falls under "medicine" is free. Dental care and mental health services aren't a specialty in medicine but their own separate fields, so they're not free (unless you're under 18, in which case a lot of services are free or heavily subsidized)

[@pinkcichlid]

Diagnosing part is free including specialists, but you gotta waiiiiiiiit for months if not years to get an appointment or surgery etc. Treatment part is Not Free! Meds are out of our own pockets or from insurance, misinfo in this video but can't blame them, surprisingly a lot of Canadians think the medication coverage they get through employers are part of the "universal healthcare" system, and they are shocked to see their med bills after they retire.

[@elliotw.7145]

跟Jared同樣是溫村的表示有一次朋友鼻梁骨撞碎了在急診流了好幾個小時才開始手術

[@normandiebruce]

Compared to France, health care in Canada is a joke

[@firstchild8985]

Waiting time in Er before COVID around 10 hours just to see the Dr...now average 20 hours.. what do you think 🤔

[@rosemaryskeen9670]

I'm jealous too! I see why some Americans want to move to Canada now. Sounds like the walk-in clinic in Canada is our Urgent care in the U.S.

[@huhula2359]

I live in East, health care is crazy slow

[@harryni8115]

我现在就在 医院。 真的 论去医院看病这方面 中国全球第一

[@maplestory8875]

大病返贫也是全球第一

[@rick5362]

我在加拿大待快20年了，有些情况我真宁愿花钱省时间，得过一次急性肾结石（喝酸奶太多了），六点到医院等开门，等医生，等足四个多小时，终于看上医生，印度人，来了问了两分钟，开了个止痛药让回家了，后来又疼，上网查觉得是急性肾结石，拼命喝水好了，止痛药也没吃，还有手指僵硬，看医生说用热水敷，给了点膏药涂涂没啥用，半年后回国一看腱鞘炎，打一针封闭针，一周好了从没复发，基本上发烧感冒这边都是自救，吃退烧药，去医院基本就没啥用. 什么病都是先找预约家庭医生，家庭医生检查后再给你refer到专科，一般专科预约得一个月了，有大病还是赶快回国，效率不说，国内医生比这边临床经验多很多，很快就能对症下药

[@athenawu4521]

加拿大七年，小病慢行病靠自己熬好，大病能治都会治

[@dtsMQG]

从旁人的角度来看，肯定是好过没有。但对国家和政府来说，个人支付10%，政府支付90%或许是更好的选择。我们这儿也是政府、私人两条线，相互补充，政府没那么慢，但也不免费，私人又快又好但也确实是贵。压力点其实是保险公司能否承受，再进一步就是个人能否承受更高的保费。 这个隐患由来已久了。

[@kamsimyip4966]

Germany health care insurance is good, because all people must have a health care insurance since baby right after borned.

[@kamsimyip4966]

Want to add, we pay for health care insurance, it is not free.

[@dragonz369]

The key question is: how much taxes do Canadians have to pay to support the “Free Health Care System”?

[@sarahchan5604]

Depends on how much one earns,the one earns more pay more, for the very poor ,no need to pay anything at all. For a middle income person, about one third of salary was deducted but that included government pension plans and company pension plan deduction, unemployment insurance apart from tax deduction

[@zackjonathan7673]

I'm just wondering as a Canadian if you need to buy an health insurance for some specific disease? Because my friend told me that the Canadian health card doesn't cover the effective and new-invented medicine and if you have a cancer or something like that, in general, the doctor would just make a proscription with basical medicine, it means it doesn't work or just stave off your symptom. Then you have to pay for the most effective medicine to be survived. Is that true?

[@davidchou8824]

In general, the medical system here will prioritize based on how urgent it is. For instance, all medicines administered by the hospital is free, regardless of what it is. The ones you have to pay for are usually the ones you need to pick up at the outside pharmacies. In general, if it's a life-saving medicine, you don't need to worry about cost. We also have assistance programs that will also pay for drugs if you qualify as a low-income family.

[@juliawang1971]

免费医疗一言难尽，不过比起隔壁啥都自费的还是要好很多😄

[@xixi7893]

已经很不错了

[@zhanhuading5050]

It's an informative video!

[@jamesag4942]

事实上：在加拿大对于65岁以下的加拿大人，药是要自己付钱买的，65岁以上退休人士（像您父亲一样）才能得到免费药，但也是限制在那些在指定List上的药。

[@DahliaKuo]

要看狀況，BC省有個藥物補助的計畫，有申請就有部份會補助。我老公52歲癌症治療，很多藥有cover

[@chunyuwu1947]

🍎🌹 你父親在镜頭前非常淡定哦

[@陈维新-m1r]

有钱的话那里医疗资源好就能去哪里，没钱就只能因地制宜的想办法度过了。。。

[@koshkaschrodingera]

天下没有免费的午餐，所谓的免费治疗 /免费保险本来由纳税人埋单嘛 :) 在俄罗斯你在线挂号，一般情况下首先要看内科医生 (家庭医生?)，(可以当天挂号，但是有时候要等待两三天)，然后医生检查你的情况， 一般来说让你做验血与验尿。如果结果里发现异常再做出决定要不要去看别的专家。这儿再要看情况：一些专家很热门（比如神经医师，心脏医生等等），两个星期后才能看医生。说到推荐，也有这个现象，是因为病人常常误解：比如病人以为是心脏问题，原来是呼吸系统的问题... 总是，原来情况跟加拿大差不多，一些领域有问题，缺乏资金供应，比如患孤儿病的孩子常常依赖非营利组织的帮助：最近非国家组织因为政府的愚蠢政策而面临很多问题 :( 说到私人医院要小心：在俄罗斯他们常常要你做无用的检查，化验，研究，总而言之，不择手段骗钱 *** 莫斯科有有意思的项目：夏天你能在公园做身体检查（体检包括常规检查，血常规，尿常规检查，X光胸部拍片、心电图，眼科检查等等）；如果结果有问题，医生会给你打电话，给你安排专家~

[@wuweilin]

爸爸有點像哈里遜福特啊

[@zinedineli2861]

很感谢您的分享，我是生活在加拿大的中国人，你的视频实际帮我解决了很多对加拿大医疗系统的困惑，非常有帮助！如果可以你能再回答一下我问题嘛：第一，如果如节目所说，我自己的家庭医生不肯推荐专家（specialist）给我，我如何去找到新的医生？因为我们的家庭医生是推荐的，我们家的医生实际是主动给我们写的邮件。第二，如果去walk in，是不是只有移民和本地人才能免费？因为我的朋友是留学生，他也有MSI卡，但是他说去walk in要自己花钱。

[@maggie8413]

如果是留学生，应该是有保险的，我在ontario是有uhip的，学费里面是包含了保险，只要没有后面去退掉，大部分都是包含的。可能有个别疫苗或者血液测试，皮试不包吧。但是如果毕业了，又没有工作，就没有保险。这种情况就会需要自己买保险。有点小贵。一旦找到了工作就可以申请医保卡了。我去过好几个不同的诊所，不是一定要去家庭医生看的，你也可以找walk-in clinic，打电话预约或者就walk in就能见到其他的医生

[@zinedineli2861]

@@maggie8413 多谢回复！学生是有保险的，但是据说只有危急情况才能cover掉，一般的病都要自己花钱的，那么是不是他也要自己买商业保险呢？另外一个问题是，我因为一直没生病，就没去过walk in，但是我想问的是，如何能推荐到专家医生（你懂的），如果家庭医生认为不需要推荐专家，那walk in的医生会推荐嘛？

[@maggie8413]

@@zinedineli2861 我用过很多次学生保险，并不是只有急诊才可以用。我用学生保险去过急诊，也去过walk in clinic，像x ray什么的都是可以免费的，只有一些类似于hpv疫苗，只cover一部分，但是打针啊拿药啊都是cover的，学生保险还包括牙医，我的智齿都是用的学生保险拔掉的，还有洗牙。智齿不是全包，我也要出一部分钱，但是大头都包掉了。然后专科的话，我朋友有过类似的经历，医生觉得不用，但是他觉得需要，就要求医生给他refer，第一次医生拒绝了觉得没有必要，后面换了一家walk ijn，第二个医生同意了。所以可以先要求看看，要是医生不同意就换一个walk in试试

[@zinedineli2861]

@@maggie8413 好的，我跟她说一下。谢谢分享！walk in也能帮忙推荐专家嘛？

[@maggie8413]

@@zinedineli2861 我朋友当时是refer了，所以我觉得是可以的吧

[@hang0822]

这采访的水平已经高于很多电视台节目了

[@MsGao-rf2ox]

在加拿大最大的问题是找不到家庭医生。另外很难找到一个医术高明的医生。你不知道这个医生手术水平怎么样？经验怎么样？要知道中国主任级的医生手术水平是很高的，因为做过很多次，很熟练。

[@taaareee3570]

免费的不会有好的，技术高的都往私家拿高薪去了

[@jinlingliang4385]

你讲得正是，如果讲教授和医生，我觉得中国的医生是最牛，好专业的，真是为医好病人的，不像外国医生，讲利益严重，

[@pinkcichlid]

没错，加拿大医生水平奇烂，好的早都南下拿高薪了。

[@junecheung7882]

@@taaareee3570 贊成，香港政府醫院是公立醫院，醫院醫生人工8～20萬，私家50～100萬（網上資料）

[@MsGao-rf2ox]

@@taaareee3570 加拿大有私立医院吗？没听说过

[@simon_tran]

Very informative about Free Healthcare in Canada. 👍我認為免費醫療總比沒有好

[@yunxiayou1118]

检查项目需要钱吗？

[@aurorazhang3268]

Canada's health care is free but very limited, and very bad. For my experience, to see my family doctor takes half month, to see a specialist takes half year. My family doctor is not even Canadian trained, so technically she is no more qualified than me to be a doctor. Lots of people I know from diagnosis to death took less than half year. So I just want to take my health into my own hands, and want to order some blood tests. But because I'm young and healthy, I'm not sure if my doctor will even order test for me. If family doctor won't, I will have to go through a naturopath doctor which is covered by work insurance. Maybe I should just pay out of my own pocket.

[@anniehuang6321]

Where do you live? Most people I know usually get to see their (family and walk-ins) doctors within the same week or next. Not sure about specialists tho.

[@davidchou8824]

Strange... If I want to see my family doctor, I can just walk in and sit in the waiting room. It may take an hour or two, but not half a month. What area are you in? That said, we do have a shortage of Doctors here. Many are tempted to move across the border to the US for higher pay.

[@aurorazhang3268]

@@davidchou8824 That's very strange. Where do you live? Maybe I should consider moving to your area. I live in Kitchener, ON.

[@aurorazhang3268]

My family doctor's office is located on the main floor of a small house, which is old and crappy, thus makes me feel it's dirty. So when I wait in the office for my appointment (usually around half an hour), I just stand there and never use their chairs. When I first moved to my city Kitchener, she was the only doctor that accepting new patients. I'm constantly thinking of switching family doctor, but you need to provide a reason (basically it's like firing your doctor). I'm worried that even if I would tried to switch doctor, after two years of struggling, I still wouldn't be able to switch doctor, only end up pissing off my doctor that I couldn't switch.

[@davidchou8824]

@@aurorazhang3268 I'm in downtown Toronto. Unfortunately, my family doctors (They're a husband and wife couple) are retiring at the end of this year 😢... so hard to find another that is still taking new clients.

[@znxbcvafds5918]

小病會不會拖成大病?

[@seanchen9617]

对于没钱的人，这是非常好了。

[@james_toronto]

我认为，加拿大应该向台湾学习，看家庭医生或看专科应该缴费，每次$10就可以了，这样不但会让一些没事也看医生的人收敛一些，而且也能减轻国家的负担。

[@rickleung6356]

我记得以前看新闻说哪个女明星（名字我忘记了）在北美那边发高烧了，要坐飞机回来这边看病

[@amywang2810]

Your dad is right 100% it is def not a perfect system but it works for most people in most cases. My grandfather was diagnosed with terminal cancer last year in Vancouver and it was a difficult time for our family. But the last thing that we had to worry about was bills which would totally be a different conversation in China. 癌症的治疗在国内基本经常会度治疗，如果不用XXX进口药就不能住院 不能继续住病房 我是真的听过的 。我觉得加拿大这里真的很注重dignity 和quality of life 。而在国内可能中国人对死亡的概念和欧美不同 所以治疗过程和目的还是有很大区别的。

[@JC-em4bg]

情况跟澳洲是一模一样的

[@dudewhatisthepoint]

Doesn't China used to have a free healthcare system?

[@孙萌萌-m9h]

It used to be, but the efficiency was too low to be suitable, so it was changed to self-pay, but it was also affordable by most ordinary people.