The truth about Kiss Ultra... from a Pro FPV Pilot

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Captain Vanover

Captain Vanover

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@biggfpv2721
@biggfpv2721 2 жыл бұрын
The ultra is awesome and it is a small improvement over my fettec kwads and it is nice to see the new active development in the ultra definitely will be buying more soon
@tango_sierra8608
@tango_sierra8608 2 жыл бұрын
Disclaimer- no hardware will make you fly like this guy. He is too damn skilled lol. At the end of the day stick time is the tell all to your flying
@captainvanover
@captainvanover 2 жыл бұрын
Hey guys! I want to be clear that this is my experience personally and your experience may be completely different. I would recommend not judging either board until you have flown and experienced both over time. I hope this video is helpful for those wondering which is better, I can only speak from my experience and you should ultimately fly whatever suites you best!
@3000gtwelder
@3000gtwelder 2 жыл бұрын
Where can I get one? I can't find them anywhere.
@willsintheair
@willsintheair 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video dude! Your personal opinion is very valuable to me as a pilot. I can feel you being actually critical with the stuff. "If it's good enough for Vanny, it's more than good enough for me." (MORE VANNY FREESTYLE VIDEOS PLEEEEEEEZE!)
@zlachannel8674
@zlachannel8674 2 жыл бұрын
@@3000gtwelder there is only for an artist / public figur / famous people for the moment,,for casual pilot maybe next month on massive production
@3000gtwelder
@3000gtwelder 2 жыл бұрын
@@zlachannel8674 Thanks
@FPVian
@FPVian 2 жыл бұрын
Which ESCs are you running with this board?
@Krunked
@Krunked 2 жыл бұрын
awesome Alex! so cool to see yuh flying ultra!
@captainvanover
@captainvanover 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for the amazing tune :)))
@PesterBotLoFi
@PesterBotLoFi 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not going to lie... I didn't listen to word you said.... the flight footage hypnotized me. Watching you on DRL I was mad that you were cocky and talked alot... but bruh i have to give it to you... you are insane on the sticks. Much love. Keep killing it.
@zfpv7211
@zfpv7211 2 жыл бұрын
Love finally seeing pilots leaning back towards KISS after a few years of stagnation. Honestly, Alexander has been killing the firmware game for quite some time, luckily now people are noticing!
@nigrinimihai1197
@nigrinimihai1197 2 жыл бұрын
The Captain acknowledged the Commander, nice 👍 speaking the truth and keeping the ranks. A true display of sportsmanship and a fair review explaining the real feel of Ultra. He chooses only the best components. Ty for the review.
@TAGE_FPV
@TAGE_FPV 2 жыл бұрын
Been flying Kiss Ultra since batch 1! It's amazing. Been supporting FederovCommander's developement via patreon for a long while now as well. One thing no one has really covered yet is how incredible GPS return to home is on Kiss Ultra!
@udyfpv
@udyfpv 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe an odd question, but how incredible is RTH on ultra? Like how is it different from RTH on Kiss other than the fact it can be triggered by a failsafe? How is it different from BF GPS rescue? Genuinely curious.
@TAGE_FPV
@TAGE_FPV 2 жыл бұрын
@@udyfpv GPS rescue is not the same as return to home by any measure. From the official betaflight documentation: GPS Rescue Mode is intended to bring your quad back autonomously in case of an emergency such as loss of video or radio link. The only purpose is to bring the quad back into range so you can retake control as soon as possible. It is not meant to be a reliable Return to Home mode. I don't need to say more. However on Kiss, it's proper RTH with full autonomous return, and configurable parameters however it only uses GPS. On Ultra it's one step above as it comes with a high quality barometer; so there's rock solid altittude hold in place during RTH.
@udyfpv
@udyfpv 2 жыл бұрын
@@TAGE_FPV I'd encourage you to elaborate on the difference with betaflight, not sure I quite understand how rth on bf with a baro would be so different from rth in ultra. Not trying to defend bf or anything, I much much prefer kiss. Just trying to understand how they are different functionally.
@udyfpv
@udyfpv 2 жыл бұрын
@@TAGE_FPV basically I know that in bf, if configured correctly, with a baro you get solid altitude hold as well. So I was wondering beyond that if Ultra did anything notably different.
@OriginaldoBo
@OriginaldoBo 2 жыл бұрын
Facts! BL-Heli pass through is so underrated On the Ultra!
@alexanderfedorov7890
@alexanderfedorov7890 2 жыл бұрын
Oh! it also has quite nice OSD ;)
@biggfpv2721
@biggfpv2721 2 жыл бұрын
And here comes uav tech in 3.... 2... 1..
@josefdahari
@josefdahari 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
@captainvanover
@captainvanover 2 жыл бұрын
yup haha
@Krunked
@Krunked 2 жыл бұрын
Ready... Fight!
@doctorjmobilefilming8194
@doctorjmobilefilming8194 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@Alin.Victor
@Alin.Victor 2 жыл бұрын
He is overshooting for sure, someone raise his D gain please.
@breakflight
@breakflight 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see something from you. I was bummed I didn't see you at DRL. I'm glad you are well.
@NaijaFPV-
@NaijaFPV- 2 жыл бұрын
Finally.. someone being REALLY HONEST about the whole debacle! Thank you buddy! and yes... i fly Ultra
@ClareFPV
@ClareFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Alex for sharing your perspective of actually using the Flight Controllers for so long. I have recently swapped my Betaflight FC with a Kiss Ultra FC and the feel is just unbelievable. I have another quad that has exactly the same setup but with a Fettec FC and I'm looking forward to trying the Alpha Firmware on it as people thinks it is the best of both worlds. Thank you so much!!!
@charlsfpv8464
@charlsfpv8464 2 жыл бұрын
Im going to try too that alpha FW, everyone, including JB was talking today about that.. in just waiting for my Fettec ESC 45a 4in1 :-), share your experience with the alpha fw bro! 🙌🏻
@ClareFPV
@ClareFPV 2 жыл бұрын
@@charlsfpv8464 will do brother.
@doctorjmobilefilming8194
@doctorjmobilefilming8194 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Alex for sharing your experience, which i think is much more relevant than numbers, it’s not a contest either, everyone should fly whatever they want as long as they are happy with it. Fly on! 🚀
@antzd
@antzd 2 жыл бұрын
I'm still flying the KISS V2 F7 with KISS 25a ESCs. Copied Steele's settings from when he did the 6S build video and haven't touched a setting on the quad since, can't imagine the quad flying any better than it does and its been going strong for years. When I need to build a new quad I'll likely go with KISS Ultra if I can get hold of one.
@mfpv_detroit8182
@mfpv_detroit8182 2 жыл бұрын
Love the sun shining thru the trees
@ajdfpv9727
@ajdfpv9727 2 жыл бұрын
Recently tried KISS on a Fettec G4. I have 2 identical builds (same frame and motors) one running KISS and one running Betaflight. I've been a betaflight pilot for 6 years but my go to for flying sessions is the KISS quad now.
@billmcdonald4335
@billmcdonald4335 2 жыл бұрын
Ya just scored another sub, Alex. Informative, authoritative review. And that flight footage. . . sweeeeeeeet!!
@jcfpv3454
@jcfpv3454 2 жыл бұрын
To me it's like really nice shoes some people swear by reebox or Nike etc. Where your comparing the absolute best equipment available its gonna be damn good regardless but comes down to flying prefence
@TRITONFPV
@TRITONFPV 2 жыл бұрын
I've been flying KISS for the last 7 months and never looking back! #SENDIT 👊🏻
@ridethesky3259
@ridethesky3259 2 жыл бұрын
This was an awesome and informative video, but I also love the messages hanging on your wall! I'll have to try KISS eventually.
@jmlon993
@jmlon993 2 жыл бұрын
Nice honest video Alex. Good job with this.
@MadVultureFPV
@MadVultureFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience!! I am flying falcox for 2 years and I am very curious about KISS since the beginning! I thing now it is time to try it out 🤘🚀
@ChrisRooneyFPV
@ChrisRooneyFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Do this Bro🔥 I fly falco too about more then one year and test last week the ultra. The experience is awesome without tuning. I think after tuning comes the time that I quit with falco and going only ultra.
@MadVultureFPV
@MadVultureFPV 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRooneyFPV cool!! Good to know, I tried BF after a while because FL1 is doing too many shit, but I really enjoy the falcox feeling. So I am curious and the same time looking for a possible replacement! I am going to try ultra for sure, doing my order hehe 🤘🚀
@FastLaneFPV
@FastLaneFPV 2 жыл бұрын
I had no clue what board you were using but was noticing some wizardry in your freestyle. Knowing now, it looks like the tru Kiss 2.0 feeling.
@willsintheair
@willsintheair 2 жыл бұрын
I was a KISS guy, then a FlightOne guy... I even tried the Helio/Butterflight stuff. Sadly, hardware availability was ALWAYS an issue with KISS and FL1. I finally got fed up and switched to BetaFlight/EmuFlight.
@rickyohara1081
@rickyohara1081 2 жыл бұрын
Alex: just buy the fc yourself and try it out me trying to find it in stock
@alexanderfedorov7890
@alexanderfedorov7890 2 жыл бұрын
watch closely discord!
@pgabrieli
@pgabrieli 2 жыл бұрын
thanks very much for sharing. just managed to get a Kiss Ultra FCFC, looking forward to using it! BTW, I find it quite interesting that this video was posted exactly TWO WEEKS after the video on RotorRiot promoting the Fettec G4 + BLheli ESCs... 🙂 I guess we'll need to wait until RR has Kiss Ultra FCs for sale, to see any video about that on their channel... just sayin'...
@MikePilk
@MikePilk 2 жыл бұрын
Ultra gang!!! KISS ultra FTW!! The difference is 100% noticeable! You hit the nail on the head with this video and thank you!!
@udyfpv
@udyfpv 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting the non scientific / human reasoning on the table. It can be hard for those who spend more time looking at blackbox than flying to understand the concept of "feel" but that's what it's all about. It's not about how close it follows setpoint... it's about how it feels as it tries to follow setpoint 🤷🏻‍♂️
@mhoovair89
@mhoovair89 2 жыл бұрын
I love when people obsessed with logs who can’t fly good talk bad about kiss because it doesn’t do the craziest movements perfectly ‘in blackbox’ everything is subjective to personal feel, so the argument of what’s best is irrelevant. If you like what you fly, awesome. Blackbox nerds need to just fly more.
@DrFrantic77
@DrFrantic77 2 жыл бұрын
Still one of the best FCs in the moment
@scottmarshall6766
@scottmarshall6766 2 жыл бұрын
Been a Betaflight user since it's release. For the last few years, I've been using Mamba FCs pretty much exclusively except for small stuff. I'm strictly a recreational pilot, and have settled into the Mamba F7 stack with DJI video transmitters, sometimes with DJI link, sometimes with CRSF on my old Taranis and X9s. Been wanting to try Kiss, but they've been out of stock for years, expensive, and seem to lack the peer support that Betaflight based gear does. If Can get a couple of Kiss ultra setups for a tolerable price, I'll probably try them this summer. I've kinda got too settled it for too long, so I'm open to trying something new. Last time I switched it was from KK boards to Naze32 F1 boards and Baseflight Cleanflight and finally Betaflight. Took a detour to APM briefly because I had a friend obsessed with long range auto flights, but they never finished the software and I abandoned it. Guess it's time to look forward again... The fact I've been using one combo so long speaks to just how far we've come I guess. Thanks for the honest opinion on the Kiss world.
@hunterlewis4020
@hunterlewis4020 2 жыл бұрын
not me still flying with the kiss v2 lmaoo
@douglastutt2560
@douglastutt2560 2 жыл бұрын
Kiss’ locked in flight characteristics look really appealing to me. I saw what you’re talking about in your previous video where you outfitted Drib Bubby and Shawns kwads with Kiss FCs and they all had positive impressions. Although I’m hesitant to fix what ain’t broke, but since you’re one the keenest flyers around I value your opinion and I’ll give it a try (especially since the Ultra works with BL Heli). Thanks Alex.
@slappomatthew
@slappomatthew 2 жыл бұрын
ok glad to hear it. Ill go buy a couple kiss ultra FC. oh wait.....
@slappomatthew
@slappomatthew 2 жыл бұрын
guess I am stuck with my old dusty Kiss FC v2
@veizour
@veizour 2 жыл бұрын
Experience > Tech-sheet > Hypothesis
@michaelc5027
@michaelc5027 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree with your opinion more. I started flying FPV in the summer of 2020, flew BF for a year and then last summer decided to give FETTEC a try, and I was instantly hooked. Unfortunately, I didn't have much luck with their ESCs so I switched back to flying BlHeli ESCs without passthrough. Even though I still fly my FETTEC F7 FCs (they're awesome), I have started switching some of my quads to the ULTRA because it's even more awesome and has passthrough. That being said, I really hope FETTEC adds passthrough for their FCs, that's really the only thing that makes the experience not as nice as it could be. Suffice it to say, I love the way KISS flies (and it's simplicity in the setup and tuning department) and I haven't looked back.
@billybonghackett
@billybonghackett 2 жыл бұрын
Emuflight ftw but I'm curious to see how kiss ultra flys.
@SkylabFlightSystems
@SkylabFlightSystems 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this. I fly BF right now. I have tried older versions of KISS and I didn’t like it. But that doesn’t mean I would not be willing to give it another shot especially now that using BL_heli ESCs is possible. My only issue is probably going to be availability. I’ve noticed it’s out of stock everywhere. If the supply can keep up with the demand, I’ll absolutely give it a try.
@Happy_FPV
@Happy_FPV 2 жыл бұрын
I just got 2 of the g4 boards because of your rotorriot video. Never flown kiss before but I’ll get them installed in 2 quads and go rip em.
@djreact879
@djreact879 2 жыл бұрын
I smoked one fettec esc I’m on my second now but I may have to try this if I pop another one. Blheli pass through is huge. I’m using a g4 and love it but the esc scares me especially now that I’ve heard you pop a few. Good stuff man! Thank you
@CarolinaAirshots
@CarolinaAirshots 2 жыл бұрын
Better is always better , always
@yoshifpv
@yoshifpv 2 жыл бұрын
FETtec is also currently writing its own firmware! So I'm pretty excited about where this is going :)
@captainvanover
@captainvanover 2 жыл бұрын
Ultimately the competition between the companies is only gonna help the hobby!
@yoshifpv
@yoshifpv 2 жыл бұрын
@@captainvanover Yes, that for sure!
@almacfpv74
@almacfpv74 2 жыл бұрын
I also had my kiss hardware laying around for a couple months before I switched primarily because was waiting for bf 4.3 and the f7 stack I was flying for about a year treated me pretty good. I really wanted to stay loyal to my setup. But when 4.3 came out it flew great for about a week and it seemed i was already playing with the tune and again i was struggling with it. So i finally rebuilt my quad with the g4 + 45 amp fettec esc and was blown away. I love it and i think a big part of this is that yeah to some ppl bf is appealing because alot of ppl like to have all the bells and whistles. gives them some kind of status. To me I just want to fly. And so far kiss gives that to me
@the_darkside_fpv
@the_darkside_fpv 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve noticed in every video I’ve seen of the ultra that it undoubtedly sounds so much more crisp and smooth compared to the g4. It’s a clean purr/hum. I’m definitely interested in it if I could ever get my hands on it 😂😂
@PIDtoolbox
@PIDtoolbox 2 жыл бұрын
Love to look at a logfile. What’s the state of blackbox logging for kiss these days?
@alexanderfedorov7890
@alexanderfedorov7890 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my. Another one :)
@PIDtoolbox
@PIDtoolbox 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderfedorov7890 I just wanna get kiss under a microscope to see if it’s all that it’s claimed to be. Plus I just wanna get Ptb geared up to read them
@alexanderfedorov7890
@alexanderfedorov7890 2 жыл бұрын
@@PIDtoolbox Nothing better to do?
@PIDtoolbox
@PIDtoolbox 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderfedorov7890 yup. I love data. Personal opinion from great pilots is fine but it’s not science.
@alexanderfedorov7890
@alexanderfedorov7890 2 жыл бұрын
@@PIDtoolbox Well, enjoy then.
@GrimSpeedFPV
@GrimSpeedFPV 2 жыл бұрын
See now this is what matters to me!! I'm not a big all getting into data person I'm more about the way It just feels. These both look really good just sounds like ultra will be good for me blheli-s. I'm definitely going to make the switch!! I want to be flying this summer not tuning and dealing with firmware updates. Thank you Alex cause your opinion really does matter to everyone 🤜💯
@jayheine8108
@jayheine8108 2 жыл бұрын
I fly beta flight cause I’m so new to the hobby and really don’t even have beta flight down yet. There is just so much to learn thinking of having to learn another thing and remember how to use it adds some stress. Great video love watching you fly your amazing! Thank you for all the info cause you are a wealth of knowledge!
@udyfpv
@udyfpv 2 жыл бұрын
Just so you know, KISS = keep it super simple. And they stick to it. BetaFlight is a lot more work than Kiss in general. Just slap on Krunked's Golden Starting point tune and your 90% done, probably just need to raise D a bit until you don't have any bounceback.
@skyweaver3199
@skyweaver3199 2 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah Alex! Thank you bro! We have been trying to get the black box logger community to see , it's not only logs. It is about FEEL! Ultra is amazing , and we know it! It sucks there are people out there that just want to argue x firmware is better. No matter what , according to data, logging, and statistics....(and a lot of these pilots haven't flown the ultra) Apex with Ultra, and kiss 25 amp singles. 2 Moongoats, one fettec G4, with fettec 45 amp (capped properly), and one Moongoat with kiss ultra mini, and redux 32 esc running 32.8.3) ( I have also flown ultra with fettec 45 amp, and it's butter)
@pedronhfd6969
@pedronhfd6969 2 жыл бұрын
I flight kiss V2 with 32A individual flyduino and my second quad Kiss V2 + 60A Hobbywing esc they fly amazing
@momp87
@momp87 2 жыл бұрын
Yo Captain! Great video on your thoughts on the Kiss Ultra! Enjoyed it. I also enjoyed the background music, whats the song name? 😅
@904fpv2
@904fpv2 2 жыл бұрын
I have your CL1 VS and I have a reaper 65a esc I'm putting on. Did you orientate the esc just like the fettec 4in1 esc or did you put the xt60 pigtail out the back. Really curious. Love all your stuff I'm a loyal follower keep doing what you're doing man! Thanks
@jlarson42
@jlarson42 2 жыл бұрын
I fly the Ultra on the Apex frame My backup is the Fettec F7 on the Apex frame. My backup to them is my first build, the Kakute F7 on the Source one frame, running BF 4.2.9 Love them all. I'm not a great pilot, need lots of backups 😂. Happy flying Alex💖 🤓
@mikespeedyfpv321
@mikespeedyfpv321 2 жыл бұрын
Hi I use T-motor F7 HD stack and t-motor F7 HD Mini stack and a rush blade stack all my quads are now DJI I made the switch a few weeks ago and I'm happy so I'm not going to change for now I only started flying a year ago great video as always One Love🙏👊💙
@maxcineflights
@maxcineflights Жыл бұрын
can you please make a KISS Tuning guide from start to finish how your doing it...would love that so much! Thank you
@MeadowlarkFPV
@MeadowlarkFPV 2 жыл бұрын
great video Alex. Good to see Sage on the bog screen :)
@chuckkissel2785
@chuckkissel2785 2 жыл бұрын
Being able to use BLHELI ESCs now I'm more interested in switching a quad over.
@alexanderfedorov7890
@alexanderfedorov7890 2 жыл бұрын
Yeap, screw vendor locking!
@dinosabic5383
@dinosabic5383 Жыл бұрын
Im excited to feel the difference. Gunna give KISS a go (coming from BF). Pairing it to a Foxeer Reaper 65a. Mines on order now. Thanks Alex! :) Btw, whens the Vanny Pro frame coming? :)
@nemoishouse
@nemoishouse 2 жыл бұрын
Finally someone tells the truth!!! Thank you Alex!!!!!
@GBoniFPV
@GBoniFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Like the video, but my only problem with kiss Ultra FC is that it's almost impossible to get one. It Doesn't matter how good it is if you can't get one. Fettec are available every.
@seanolley6536
@seanolley6536 2 жыл бұрын
More great info cheers. 👍
@JLfpv
@JLfpv 2 жыл бұрын
What do you fly for racing? Betaflight or kiss? What tracks setpoint better and handles propwash and throttle dips better? All bbox logs show betaflight is best objectively. Subjective preferences are one thing facts of pid controller handling the math is another.
@MrRckjms83
@MrRckjms83 2 жыл бұрын
GG!! I might have to give KISS another go round!
@Stygmah
@Stygmah 2 жыл бұрын
Always wish I could try KISS but it's so hard to get here in Australia. As a result I fly brain fpv FCs, nothing beats it in betaflight terms. 4.3RC is amazing to
@captainvanover
@captainvanover 2 жыл бұрын
yes that Is the downside it can be hard to get, however impulse rc is in Australia I believe and they are a dealer of the ultra fc. 4.3rc on a brainfpv is an amazing combo to fly as well!
@DRONIXAR
@DRONIXAR 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent information
@sunsetpark_fpv
@sunsetpark_fpv 2 жыл бұрын
@ 5:03 I'm having such a hard time following what you're saying because my eyes keep drifting to the flight footage and I've already watched that video but I can't look away.....😎
@mikeallenfpv
@mikeallenfpv 2 жыл бұрын
I'm guess I'm gonna try out Kiss finally!
@dabberxfpv1613
@dabberxfpv1613 11 ай бұрын
So are you using the Kiss Ultra stack or the Kiss FC and a different ESC ?
@borg1874
@borg1874 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great info, Alex. So will there be an upgrade from FETtec KISS FC G4 to the Ultra FCFC and Foxeer Reaper 96K 65A BL32 4in1 3~8S ESC for your Vannystyle Pro-Spec Built and Tuned quad in the Rotor Riot Store? That would be sweet.
@cheechfpv
@cheechfpv 2 жыл бұрын
As always great flying Vanover! 🙌🏽 Would love to try flying the KISS ULTRA FCFC. But since there almost impossible to get, there non existent to me until they are readily available at RDQ.
@chrismillersrcfamily
@chrismillersrcfamily 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome friend👍🏼👍🏼 KISS is on my list🦄
@CoppertopFPV
@CoppertopFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Good for you. My video on this tosh doing the rounds is currently uploading again due to youtube errors. Personally I'm fed up of the bashing by people who haven't even flown it and who think federov appeared from nowhere. It should he better as those fettec fcs you were flying used a huge amount of his code. Personally I feel it loses a little of its shine on non fettec or kiss escs but the payoff is less smoke :) objectively as a product it is better than the G4 in every way.
@dragonwingfpvbyespenlossiu3808
@dragonwingfpvbyespenlossiu3808 2 жыл бұрын
I've tried Kiss before G4 and Ultra, and IMO Betaflight is superior with just a decent tune on it. I have yet to try G4 & Ultra, but I would be very surprised if it flies better than a good tuned BF4.2 quad, and even more so with BF4.3.
@mhoovair89
@mhoovair89 2 жыл бұрын
You’ve never flown it. Meaning the new boards and specifically the new software….
@YoYoYo
@YoYoYo 2 жыл бұрын
It doesn't. I have G4 and BF4.3 on a same quads.
@captainvanover
@captainvanover 2 жыл бұрын
A tuned betaflight quad flies amazing, but I think a tuned Fettec g4 quad or especially a kiss ultra quad will simply fly smoother and have a different stick feel that is more appealing to guys like me. Give the new stuff a try sometime and you may be surprised ;)
@YoYoYo
@YoYoYo 2 жыл бұрын
@@captainvanover I actually used them on HookV2(way before you do) and even tried your pids on the G4. My BF 4.3 with PD Balance at 0.8, master at 2.0 and filters at 1.9 flies way better. G4 can't match the propwash handling of that setup. No troubles or occasional twitches. You can even see it in the video with the rotor riot that you did. The moment Ledrip sais that there is no propwash it was terrible. I don't have that with the BF build. BF drone HookV2 Rush blade stack F40 Motors Kiss HookV2 G4 + 45A fettec ESC(mounted with gummy standoffs like you do) F40 motors The max D I can squeeze out of the G4 was about 14(with corresponding P which was about 4-4.5) before it started to sound gittery. On BF sky is the limit. I believe the difference comes from the RPM filtering but might be worng. This is my personal opinion, the kiss drone is my backup now. I was going to replace the G4 with the Ultra but after watching JBs video realized that the difference is not that big(especially watching the propwash scene). No disrespecting. Huge respect for you as a pilot.
@chrishiggins7475
@chrishiggins7475 2 жыл бұрын
Agree I've had the ultra mini since it came out and prefer my tuned 4.3 rig so I've sold the ultra, Love what Alex has done in supporting the ultra and kiss over the past years and I'm still a patreon Yes ultra with a Krunked tune against a bf quad that hasn't been tuned it's better hands down and for people who just want to fly it's perfect but if you have the time I prefer bf. Osd on ultra is amazing and all the things Alex has added. But people arguing and saying this is better than that.. "just fly" Btw I've flown kiss since 2017 v1 and V2
@Darthies
@Darthies 2 жыл бұрын
I fly betaflight and have done from day one but I can’t wait for the kiss fcfc ultra to be released in the uk hopefully it’s not gonna be to long as I have a terminal illness not sure how long I have left but would love that to be my last change to my quad
@stonefpvthor
@stonefpvthor 2 жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter when they are not avaliable. Make a million ultras and start a business. This is how sir vanni gets a load of the Kiss ultra in the mail.
@yankey4
@yankey4 2 жыл бұрын
Man I would love to try out FPV. I watch all the videos that I can find on it. Trouble is I am legally blind in my right eye and have about less than 70% ish in my left. I need to have a cornea transplant. Not having a lot of spare cash to spend. I do not know if I can even see to fly. Do not know why I am sharing this. Thanks for sharing so much and teaching so much. I feel like just from the videos yall share. That we are a small part of your life and part of then fun. Thanks for this. God Bless !!
@scottyfpv5651
@scottyfpv5651 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have your PIDs saved on the Kiss platform? Been flying Fettec G7 for a while now.
@Camaro4726
@Camaro4726 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool to know. Definitely think pass-through is awesome. I been running blheli escs since I been on kiss. I have tried a fettec esc once and honestly did not like as much. So definitely nice not having to connect another fc just to get into blheli
@TravisJansma
@TravisJansma 2 жыл бұрын
What is it? A few percent better or a huge difference?
@JasonRidesmoto
@JasonRidesmoto 2 жыл бұрын
Whatever happened to FlightOne? I've been out of the game a couple years
@pilotsanddrones
@pilotsanddrones 2 жыл бұрын
Cool Video bro! We'd love to get an interview with you!
@mixerek1988
@mixerek1988 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when you dropped fl1 (for the first time) for brain fpv, or something like that, which was betaflight based fc. You basically told same things, "it flies great, it's super smooth" etc. I have nothing against Alexander and Kiss ultra (which i really wanna try since im just getting back to hobby) but (to me) it looks like you will put in a great light any product that you currently work with. I get this, you use for your work only best but for casual pilots it's like a chasing their own tails. I think it would look hell better if you would just focus on the things that differ Kiss ultra and Fettec fcs and there are quite some ;) happy flying
@fpvraver
@fpvraver 2 жыл бұрын
When can I buy one ? I would live to switch to the Fetteck Ultra. Is there a pre order available? I would be willing to give the cash and wait for them to make more.
@Viseo3dp
@Viseo3dp 3 ай бұрын
I fly kiss ultra v2 and i love it, now it really hard to fly one of my betaflight quads because i dont enjoy it as much also Alex what are your rates i would like to try them if thats okay.
@wrecked3253
@wrecked3253 2 жыл бұрын
Had to watch the video twice. Was to busy watching the flying to pay attention the first time..
@lililililililili8667
@lililililililili8667 2 жыл бұрын
If only I could get my hands on a kiss ultra
@mysterb_33-13
@mysterb_33-13 2 жыл бұрын
Are you floating Alex? It looks like you're floating.
@lrfpv5292
@lrfpv5292 2 жыл бұрын
God bless, brother
@PMcDFPV
@PMcDFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Im still just a year in and fly BF, but someday when I get better, I hope to try some of this goodness as well.
@jackiemonroejemfpv4204
@jackiemonroejemfpv4204 2 жыл бұрын
I have always love the feel of the ultra. Definitely the best feeling FC. My Kiss quads are why better locked in feeling than my BF quads.✌️😎
@JLfpv
@JLfpv 2 жыл бұрын
Can you prove that objectively? Like with a blackbox log that shows better stick tracking and less bounce back and less propwash oscillations and such things that the pid controller are doing? Subjectivity of locked in vs actually being locked in are two diff arguments.
@armandotoglia
@armandotoglia 2 жыл бұрын
Dude wait what you saying? I’ve been using the Fettec G4 with all kinds of esc 60A 4x1 inflight and 65A Holybro and even single 65A with brainfpv power supply and frankly has always been much more responsive than all my other H7 fcs… and also ok nice kiss ultra if like to try but where do you get kiss ultra right now? Please
@ollie_fpv9260
@ollie_fpv9260 2 жыл бұрын
I thought you needed esc as well, that's why I have not tried it, I may now I know you just need the kiss ultra fc. thanks
@merakifpv2500
@merakifpv2500 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Alex! My Respect to Alexander fedorov, He is doing a fantastic job with KISS, and his customer service, from what I see, is outstanding. Just wish the units were more easily available.
@alexanderfedorov7890
@alexanderfedorov7890 2 жыл бұрын
Working on it. Package is on the way to me AS WE SPEAK.
@merakifpv2500
@merakifpv2500 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderfedorov7890 fantastic! Keep up the good work 👏
@OSSMOZZ
@OSSMOZZ 2 жыл бұрын
Because FlightOne fly good and clean 🤷‍♂️✈🔥
@neon7fpv799
@neon7fpv799 Жыл бұрын
Whst are your pids.just starting my ultra build today flew some packs. I'm curious about a few things I've noticed like how to adjust say idle. I set idle up switch for now an just bump it up some if I wanted more idle but not shore if it the right fix. Going to try an tune some tomorrow but I'm lost being my 1st kiss build an use to betaflight
@BigLewFPV
@BigLewFPV 2 жыл бұрын
I fly Kiss now because it doesn't take a college degree to use and configure, plus it fly better than Betaflight on kiss stock pid's
@DarrenAllatt
@DarrenAllatt 2 жыл бұрын
Vannover - it’s a problem with our hobby, we chase specs and quantity instead of quality
@GioFpv
@GioFpv 2 жыл бұрын
you are my first favourite freestyler pilot, i fly the CL1vs, exsclusively your hypetrain 2021kv and when you made the video about how Fettec had impressed you, i had to give it a try too. Tbh i havent had very good luck and also i didnt really like the stick feeling of it. I will stick wit FL1 and once i finish my stash of H7 then i might try the kiss ultra 😉🤙
@captainvanover
@captainvanover 2 жыл бұрын
You will love ultra if you like the flightone feel :)
@GioFpv
@GioFpv 2 жыл бұрын
@@captainvanover ❤️🙏 oh well then after reading those words I’m not gonna wait till my H7s stash will die on me, I’m gonna grab the first Kiss ultra that’s gonna come in stock here in Australia. Thanks my man 👊 keep up with the good work buddy you are such a great inspiring pilot Alex 💪
@DaiHungFPV
@DaiHungFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to try but what I know we can't buy kiss FC here in Sweden 😭😮‍💨
@neilfpv
@neilfpv 2 жыл бұрын
WOW you're lucky Alex, you got more boards. I decided to not wait anymore even though they're good. It was just too much wait time. Started waiting November. It's February now. I'm happy with my Kiss V2, HyperLite F4, CLRacing and I'm ordering Talon soon.
@TheEviling
@TheEviling 2 жыл бұрын
I will give it a try :)
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