The Truth About Lost Ark.

A follow up to The Future of Lost Ark.
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[@raphaelascano8598]

Me and my wife are the perfect example of this. I can do up until Valtan with no issue, but still has anxiety raiding with Vykas. My wife can do up until Arogs, but not any other legions raids. Our progression is limited because we are not good enough to play higher tier content. We love the game but would probably stuck with level 1 relic gears.

[@Swiggs999]

I'd probably quit then

[@Elaine19899]

git gud both of you

[@MaluuhLive]

Try doing Vykas in normal mode with timestop potions, usually the tryhards are in hard mode

[@M1ch43l33]

Argos isnt a legion raid

[@MrLequitas]

Honest lack of encouraging replies here. It is great that you enjoy it and I can only assume how much gatekeeping and blaming for bad performance you have to endure. I think the best thing is always to find a guild or a community that is willing to spend time with you to improve, because finding them in party finder is incredibly hard, especially since you need to do it again for every raid. People just improve at a different pace and in a game like this you are going to struggle with randoms if you do not learn quickly. Also recently I have seen learning parties for lower raids pop up again and even if you know what is going on the stress is a lot less in these (it is a bigger time investment tough). I also would encourage people who are good at the game to join them occasionally to guide new players so people become more skilled.

[@tom9110]

Asmon reacting to atk reacting to asmon.

[@depressedfrog2]

We need an atk reacting to asmon reacting to atk reacting to asmon

[@s.a4034]

Thx for you comment , when i saw it i closed the vid and save my time , this react to react shit is just stupid !!

[@BaMB00Z420]

We can go deeper!

[@ThieNoii]

Yal dont know about flights reacts to cashnasty react to flights reacting cashnasty 1v1 basketball?

[@georgesonofgeorge3771]

Asmonreactception

[@PlayerOne.StartGame]

I absolutely love Lost Ark. And the reason that I stopped playing (with a heavy heart) is that it's hard to make friends in raid. If you try to create newbie friendly party for legion raid, you end up wasting a lot of time without clearing it even once. If you join a party, everyone expect you to perform at your absolute best or you will get shit on, that's a lot of pressure for playing a game. In the end I felt so much stress that it's not worthed to waste my time in a raid that I can't enjoyed.

[@UrologoDrBarcenas]

I overperformed in every raid, and im also a whale in most games, including this one. But i quit because its a doomed system that punishes new players, it has no future as it is and its no longer fun to be part of a toxic fomo community.

[@kevinreyhan209]

i quit quite early when argos comes out, and even then it's super stressful when you party up with random. Honestly tho, scratch that, my main issue is alt and I'm the type of minmax guy whenever I played a game, but I don't really like having alt for the sake of funneling your resource, and yeah I quit.

[@gabrielcat72]

What I do is host teaching runs , make good friends who in time level up and then prog harder raids with ! Long term vision and investment is the solution. Learning parties are very often super wholesome, while reclear parties with high roster players are super toxic... I'd rather spend more time with nice people than less time with toxic ones

[@eclypse9761]

@@UrologoDrBarcenas I admit, this was by far the game I spent more money on and I can't complain because I got 1850 hours from it. Still, I would have liked to kept playing it, but the way it is structured it's not aimed at long term here in the west.

[@eulassuspenders9309]

same issue with me. I felt like a living person again after closing my eyes and clicking uninstall button. The free time I gained after that are so much instead of clearing/failing raids for hours in 5 chars. The pressure this game gave me was not I expected when I first play the game from day 1. There are times when I feel like I want to play it again but the moment I think that I always remember the issues I encountered in the game. I dont enjoy the raids anymore(except valtan). Imagine matching/thinking colors and counting numbers as a boss fight. I just can't. I have been permanently afk for 4 months now and I still seeing this issues with LA. goodluck and have fun for the dedicated players, hands down to you lot

[@Thamer4life]

Easy, just make the raid bosses' aoe swirlies be Captchas where players have to stand on fire hydrants or bike lanes or die. Bots don't stand a chance

[@Suicidalsheep]

This made me laugh, thanks 😆

[@mrdeafter]

those bots won't see it coming.

[@winzaru]

I know it is a joke but a fucking captcha on the Log in screen could work lmao.

[@peterpines4992]

These days bots break captcha rather easily. Those Chinese bot farmers are really good at their job.

[@blapblapblapblap]

It's wild seeing ATK being featured on an Asmongold video. I used to watch this dude's Mabinogi videos back in 2008-2009.

[@darthunleashed]

Stopped playing 3 months ago. Haven't been happier since. This game was heaven and hell. Amazing combat system, class builds, boss raids. But it has too many flaws as well. Some of those are that there are too many things to grind, 6x brel + 6x vykas + 6 times clown + boss rush/cube for all characters and so on are just TOO MUCH stuff to do per week especially if are working. Also the OBNOXIOUS RNG that it has in almost everything you do (upgrades, stones, etc.) is super frustrating. Moreover, whenever I had an issue with the game and had to send a ticket to Amazon, there were times when they didn't even reply back to me. I have never seen such awful customer support ever in any of the games that I've played. There are more flaws to be mentioned but for me these were the worst.

[@Kyrrua_]

Sad part is that you stopped played only 3 months ago instead of doing it sooner 😆

[@pixy7593]

​@@housemana not to mention literally engravings go like GRUDGE/POSITIONAL/KBW/Adrenaline for like 90% of the time.

[@pixy7593]

Also swiftness and crit scaling so shit compared to spec.

[@Stolzeey]

I played one character to GS 1.415, was absolutely put off by the gear progression being complete RNG (that also didn't feel like the probabilities were actually correct - like needing 10+ attempts for a 35ish% chance, but maybe that was just my luck). So back to doing bosses that do not even indicate what you are supposed to do, just instantly wipe your team 10 times in a row for a mechanic that one person does wrong. Oh and now you did it, do that exact same thing a dozen times more for one more chance to increase one piece of equipments level. Hold on, now you're missing the other material. Time to go fishing for two hours straight, before waiting an hour to craft that stuff in your home island. Hell no, I'm not even trying to catch up anymore.

[@Swiggs999]

Who asked

[@Stolzeey]

@@Swiggs999 Not sure why you feel the need to be hostile. Good thing I don't need your approval to share my experience, angry man.

[@blueddeath1755]

imagine starting an mmo and complaining why im not in end game with the highest players all of us started at 0 ilvl and now 1560+ in our mains waiting for the next content to drop pure f2p we had no honing buffs books to use to increase chance for gear honing while now they made it easy you start with a character at 1460 insta boost u get all mats needed and you get to do 2 legion raids valtan and vykas thats half legion raids we have

[@Stolzeey]

​@@blueddeath1755 I'm not sure what you mean about the boost to 1460, at least I don't know how to access that and started at 0 as well. I also don't want to be instantly put into endgame, and never said that I would. I also don't hate grinding, but the combination of grinding and complete randomness. Honing buffs are a step in the right direction - but boosting a chance with (for me) rare materials from 30% to 35% doesn't change the fact that this system is stupid and player-unfriendly imo. But I see Lost Ark players tend to get really defensive about their baby.

[@blueddeath1755]

@@Stolzeey its called express wher you get all the mats to get a character to 1445 to help you players get in the game and this is by far the most friendly progress mmo iv seen if you do the daily and weekly on one character and put all the mats you get from events that character will have all the time to get into the content they release

[@calvinrulez]

I loved playing Lost Ark. But I quit because I'm not a very good player, and needed to overgear content to not feel anxious. My guildmates were nice, and always helped me clear content - but I always had a feeling that I was dragging my friends down. So I kept grinding more and more to compensate and always stay ahead in the gear curve. Keeping up with the gear treadmill just became a chore after a bit, and one day I just stopped playing. Been a happier person ever since.

[@leoleo1035]

That's the exact shit about Lost Ark. If you're not with a party playing at the same speed, you won't enjoy it.

[@Fade2GrayOG]

Yep. Once I got to Argus and realized how much anxiety it gave me, and that that was what I had to look forward to with each new raid tier, I finally cut my losses and moved on.

[@Elaine19899]

git gud lol

[@senkyou]

When the game forces ypu to play and creates FOMO, I hate it too. I feel more happy when I quit such games. I hope That lost ark will change. Or a better gane will appear in the future.

[@FAILLTheRevolution]

Why we can make the story dungeons. Most of them are amazing and funny just add good rewards.

[@gas2427]

A little context about rice eater from a Korean. Korean cuisine usually consists of 3 components: 1. Rice 2. Soup 3. Banchans(side dishes). Rice eater is a slander because it means that you cheap out and eat only rice for a meal. Hopefully you get it now.

[@georgewillow112]

Thanks for providing the context, I figured it'd be something like this.

[@clouds5]

100% agree, I'd love to do Hell Mode. I'm exactly the guy who enjoys a challenge and difficulty is one of the reason I play this game in the first place. BUT I barely have the time to play the game regularly and advance my characters, I never even thought about doing hell mode, because when I'm finally done with my daily/weekly I got other stuff to do (I enjoy doing dailies etc but only 2 chars rested per day ). I'd rather do something that gives me a meaningful reward and advances my characters even if it's slightly less fun than spending time and gold on something like hellmode.

[@ProvaBeK]

I left lost ark to play solo self found path of exile. Same grindy fun but it's easier to progress your characters when your time is limited

[@sera_venus]

big piece of advice, just set an ilvl for your alts and park them there, then spam hell mode

[@sera_venus]

rather than 5 alts and one main it seems like you want 6 mains

[@clouds5]

@@sera_venus yep that's exactly how I view it ;)

[@onedayiwillbegone2366]

To these hardcore people the reward is meaningful, not for the title but for real money, if not mistaken, when Valtan Hell was released, someone sold Valtan Hell bus title for 10,000 USD... like what the f**k, meaning Hell mode is legit useless for the general consensus other than title to flex and increase in gatekeeping content.

[@teddanville6996]

Korean: You're a rice eater if you don't want to do 2 chaos dungeon everyday Asmon: That's great, i don't give a fack what happen in Korea, make them do 3 Korean: Please don't

[@haiimax]

Lost Ark is an mmo where every single person with the same character has to have the same build

[@kingrueben1211]

​@n30n I mean op isn't completely wrong here. There isn't much diversity in builds across all classes. Pretty much all copy pasta

[@sera_venus]

@@kingrueben1211 out of my entire roster, zerker is the only one who might not have skills changeable with BT. even then i can at least change a tripod on tempest slash... sorc can take rg for suboptimal performance but theoretically higher ceiling in igniter, deadeye can run 7M with grenade, arcana has like 4 good empress builds. if ur talking engravings and stats, that can be argued for. even then there are many alternatives that you can build. this includes: - mass increase v. cursed doll for swift classes or classes that can deal with MI - barricade v. raid captain for empress arcana - 5x3 v. 4x3+2+1 - cursed doll v. adrenaline (if ur class can use adrenaline and u choose cd over that, i think ur a psycho)

[@kingrueben1211]

@Sailor Venus like I said, a few here a few there one one or two interchangeable engravings but the rest is the same. Grudge adren KB CD HM Mass Increase. Everyone has the same thing aside from a few engravings and one or 2 tripods /skills. There is absolutely no build diversity in this game what so ever. You put the 3 best for you class and interchange a 4th and whatever class engraving you use. How can you call this build diversity?

[@kingrueben1211]

@@sera_venus ever rage hammer destroyers, same 5, strikers, same 5 for both db/eso, paladin, same aside for your 5th, I Mena the list goes on and on.

[@kingrueben1211]

Inspect every person you see today playing the same class as you and see how diverse the game is lmfao

[@esperfire3779]

I haven't played Lost Ark since early February, and this last week or so I've been seriously contemplating uninstalling it. The reason being, at its core, the same as why I quit Genshin Impact: The game wants to monopolize 100% of your free time for small snippets of enjoyment. Between ATK's video and Asmond's input in this video, they hit the nail on the head. There's too many chores, too much gatekeeping, and the community is full of shitheels who don't want anything to improve, because if they had to suffer so should everyone else. The raids being absurdly unforgiving is definitely something that COULD be addressed. I'll admit, it's a bit crazy that each raid will have multiple mechanics where if even one person screws up, the boss just instantly kills everyone. Bussing is already a bit of an issue though, so I feel like it would have to be handled delicately.

[@geogeo3733]

I would actually go back and play if they made it so you only have to play 1 character. But they wont.

[@werdumed6665]

One of my most fav games ever, put 500 hours into the first 2 months and then hit the dead area where it's just masochism and bad mechanics/grinds. It's a shame because the game is incredible with everything else, but the end game is just pain. Finding groups is too hard, mechanics are hard, wiping over the smallest error etc just sucks when it plays the way it does :/ If you aren't hardcore you just get stuck with no options. Dailies aren't fun when you need to do the same thing on multiple characters to even have a chance of staying relevant too I wish it wasn't so bad

[@luxaly9510]

exactly the game has some issues there are many walls for new players/returning players... i quit summer 2022 after vykas... cause i would need books and accessories worth 300k+- to get 5 lv3 + 1 lvl1 or so also cards is also a pain to get... if they would have had a reroll option on subobtimal engravings and book exchange and card exchange it would be not so painfull... and i would likely still play the game...

[@iph2]

That’s why I stopped , literally couldn’t level up unless I kept doing dailys 24/7 it sucked

[@amanewithjesus5244]

Jesus is lord follow him and you will be savedb

[@weareborg76]

I never thought I'd find a community more toxic than League of Legends, and suddenly Lost Ark.

[@idliketorant9147]

honestly they could fix gatekeeping by letting you get the best gear from the normal versions of the fight then the new players can get stronger and have a higher chance of being accepted into raids because they take away a layer of friction that causes gatekeeping which is not having the lvl 2 relic sets/ancient sets. also make getting cards much easier.

[@sdafkjwkop]

My Lost Ark 'career' lasted till Vykas. It took up so much of my time and I bought gold from g2g to keep up even though I had 5 alts. Why did I quit? I realised how much of a literal loser I felt like while playing the game. Do I regret leaving the game? HELL NO. I have a sweet job, social life and have gone casual with games now. Lost Ark was/is so shit it turned my life around

[@battlecruiserna]

as a game company, if your gameplay pushes players towards fighting amongst themselves for reasons you as the game developer are capable of controlling, you are an incompetent or predatory developer. Gatekeeping is one such thing.

[@thomasofnone99]

I love that Asmongold and ATK have connected in the universe, this is legendary status.

[@gamezonereactions8388]

Let's be honest here for once. All modern MMOs have taken up the monetization of children using addictive and gambling antics with the fear of missing out. Ashes of Creation is the only MMO on the horizon that is returning to subscription and no BS.

[@justdome354]

2k hrs in Lost Ark... Uninstalled with Brel hc release :) Gatekeeping went too far, no alts/title - no group (I played only Sorc 1570 no whaling) f*k that game

[@oatkungar]

Another reason that made me quit LA apart from the grind is I can only do the raid once a week, I cleared but I still fucked up so I want to practice more. The only way is to grind an alt to the same item level as the main so fuck that.

[@BlackTadashi]

The main reason I quit Lost Ark was because the Raids were just too hard, finding Party that was able to do them was a pain and if not, it was a waste of time. Glad I quit the game honestly :D

[@Twinsal]

I think KR can keep their version and we West can have our own. It is either this or AGS would like to see the game to die out gradually and burn their investment.

[@syrf6327]

im experiencing the punishment of failing lost ark raid now. whats worse is that its coming from my static party. what I learned from this game is that no matter how fun you guys together irl, lost ark raid will split you up because some guys made mistake and you have to waste energy and time repeating. its kinda traumatizing tho to get flamed for some silly mistakes when you basically playing to have fun imo

[@Mikey-uj3dc]

I suggest you to stop playing lost ark with your friends then

[@forsaturn4629]

that must suck playing with friends like that.

[@syrf6327]

@@ich3730 simply because legion raid is one of the biggest gold income. and to those people whose purpose is more to obtain gold instead of having fun, they'd rather to finish it smooth and quick. so to have multiple restarts is not in the menu for them. the game forces you to clear raid and get everyone to do the correct mech, 1 mistake could cost a party wipe. and the game also forces you to do weekly legion raid because, again, it is one of the highest gold income source.

[@sera_venus]

​@@syrf6327 alternatively just join guilds that host medeia/slime/lush/death hold and "participate" in all four of them. by participate i mean be on the bench and have the islands default. easy 80k gold by doing nothing cuz no one wants to pvp

[@darkdeath5550]

The thing about Korea and games is best shown by the manga(manhwa) that's from there. Stories about dudes who play a game till they die, play as a job, or kill themselves over losing in game are huge. There are dozens of them, with the game they play being grindy, unfair, rewards players who get achievements first, and would make no sense in a multi-player game. It is very heavy protag energy in a sorta dumb way

[@Sm0ke821]

those mangas are always funny cause there is no way in hell than anyone would play those games in real life and not even one system would hold ,I always assume they are wrote by committee cause there is no way that any game would hold people who arent p2w or lucky af ,its like nft games but worse

[@darkdeath5550]

@@Sm0ke821 it's like they saw SAO and said, "That, but worse and more bs game systems"

[@Dophie13]

After switching from Lost Ark to GW2, I don’t understand why more games don’t implement something similar to GW2’s endgame. I had to quit Lost Ark at clown because of the daily grind and gatekeeping too.

[@rzt430]

as a player who enjoys the opposite things, how i feel when doing GW2's endgame is "empty". because i don't feel like my progression is meaningful anymore after a certain point. i have the cosmetics i want, my character won't grow stronger anymore, there's nothing to strive forward. i'm not much of an arbitrary "collectibles" person. not to mention the process isn't particularly fun because the combat is dated that's why outside socialization etc people still quit games like FFXIV after the current expansion is all "done" lost ark doesn't do it right though, it ends up right in the middle of western themepark and korean mmo design, where there is both tedious grind(kmmo), and your progression gets wiped after every tier(western themepark mmo). i like how black desert online does it, where your progression this year actually means SOMETHING, and if you grinded your ass this year and come back to the game in 4 years, that progression is still significant, while still having something to strive for. the advancements are slow and hard to attain and every big update only adds one advancement for those who like to grind while those who are casual don't really get "left behind" because these aren't big stat increases or anything, they're just there to keep the treadmill going for those who care while the casuals can treat the game like GW2 and collect other stuff, also the combat has an INFINITE mechanical skill ceiling, you keep getting better and better like playing a competitive moba or shooter unlike other mmos where its just about calculating the best spreadsheet and executing it

[@akhsdenlew1861]

@@rzt430 so you basically don't want to play. You want to Work. You want a second job. GW2 is the ONLY mmorpg, that i logged in, and all i had to do is to just.. play and have fun with anything i personally wanted at that time. Also the Legendary grind is there for people who want the job-like thing. it doesn't make you stronger, but it makes your life.. better in other ways.

[@rzt430]

​@@akhsdenlew1861 i don't know how you got that from my statements. i said that i want "meaningful" progression within the context of the game. i don't know why you're parroting the same old condescending "you want a second job" that people who have never experienced a true kmmo(classic lineage and ragnarok online) say. to be blunt, gw2 is too casual and easy as an mmorpg for me although i've enjoyed it until i meaningfully "completed" it(including reaching a reasonably high skill level in spvp, which i found to be a bit cheesy due to the class imbalance) , like a single player game in that sense. there are people who invest more time into gaming than others and a virtual space(i.e. mmorpg) where your actions hold more weight and meaning makes it more enjoyable for those people. if you enjoy gw2 as a casual gamer as it is a zero commitment game sure, but there are people who prefer bdo, eve, albion and such, which tend to connect people together in a different, and more tight knit way from mmos where there is zero commitment. not saying that lost ark fulfills this preference. it actually does not. i do not enjoy lost ark's grind of 2 chaos dungeons and guardian raid per character for a roster of 10 daily, for instance, especially considering there's zero socialization involved in this grind, and your progress is meaningless after the next big update, and nothing you do really matters in lost ark, even hell titles don't matter because they can be bussed.

[@fnyan4883]

What's gw2 endgame like

[@rzt430]

@@fnyan4883 it's really up to you. you could be grinding pvp reward track, you could be grinding cosmetics, doing fractals(instanced pve), open world pve grind trains, world vs world, achievements etc. it's very much horizontal in the sense that once you finish the mainline questing, your character power is nearly maxed, and there's normalized scaling for every area/content. it's very much a log in and do whatever you want casual type of thing, no real competition or pressure, which has its own pros and cons.

[@pr0n3]

When you have 10% of the hardcore grind gamers(who are the loudest) speaking for the rest of the gaming population, it usually doesn't end well and keeps new players from wanting to continue playing. All I see now are bots on my West Coast server and barely any new makoko's. Its a sad sight.

[@jpteknoman]

that part about 1 year later was correct. people were scrambling like crazy, fighting each other all day long for a spot to farm the newest big thing. i just kept doing what i wanted, didn't even bother trying to get the thing, and 4 months later the market was full of it and i just got it with no effort or drama.

[@Poomastafatz]

Do you think it would be better if the game was the one who gate-kept group content? Maybe to be in a raid, you have to solo a really challenging and punishing boss/dungeon to earn currency or keys to enter group raids. You can still make the raids difficult too and require coordination - but you make leave the punishing mechanics in the solo content to mitigate group toxicity?

[@leoleo1035]

@n30n Great idea, like many other ideas that were suggested. But as long as the game is a korean game, it will NEVER change. The korean market has not changed for the past 2 decades, it won't change now.

[@Swiggs999]

Sounds pretty stupid

[@mario_haslan]

People would leave the game in swarms cause they can't clear any solo challenge = big money loss. It's a terrible business decission.

[@senkyou]

@@leoleo1035 do not loose hope.! Tell this to korean forums every day with a shawshank redemption like style. One day it will change 😃

[@RaenRyong]

You see the vast majority of 1530++ people in Brel G2 Normal too afraid to face Prokel

[@Haru_no_ki]

Yes, this is what we need. KZbinrs speaking with the voices of people.

[@dhonpaul5821]

Also find more ways to get end game gears not only by doing Legion raids, the key to make the game alive is attracting more casual players in

[@Sheriff_K]

I agree that chaos/guardians should be 1, not 2. But I also think the "6 character limit" shouldn't be limited to 6 characters, just 6 instances.. so if you're really enjoying playing your Destroyer alt one day and want to KEEP playing it, you can do ALL 6 runs on it (and then you can't on any other character.)

[@amanewithjesus5244]

Jesus is lord follow him and you will be savedb

[@RunRunRun1901]

An easy mode akin to FFXIV normal raids (still makes you press buttons, but without single point of failure) that rewards 70% of the rewards would solve so many issues.

[@punch4freedom]

i loved lost ark when it came out but yeah it ultimately was too big a time investment to keep playing so i quit like 8ish months ago, but ngl if they add some quality of life eventually and make stuff easier and "casual" friendly id consider coming back to the game, in my oppinion the biggest turn off for me later down the line became the inability to progress unless i do the same sht on a bazillion characters when it takes me forever to do it even on my main

[@Fauxmadd]

The game got pretty boring after 450hrs and I couldn't bring myself to play it anymore especially how annoying it is to repeat everything, i just feel like i'm wasting time for very little enjoyment.

[@CR00SWIJK]

Exacly how i feel!!!

[@daydreaming6206]

Little progress!

[@axellyann5085]

I have around 1100hrs and never did anything from Vykas and higher. Valtan g2 seems to be the best fight so far that i see no point in progress further. I take some time off then come back when it's time for the "returning player log in" start again, and the cicle goes on. I learned my lesson with my 14 years of grind in Ragnarok. Now i found the ideal balance on where the game is good or not for me, so i just "camp" there and enjoy some gameplay then go play anything else.

[@Geddn]

Issue with doing raids over again in lost ark is that people do it multiple times. If it was only 1 character then people would actually enjoy taking their time with bosses and help others which has been shown in other games like FF14. The having a billion characters is one of the core issues of lost ark and it wont change im thinking.

[@akhsdenlew1861]

in FF14, the fights are more like.. a memory battle. Not a reaction one. You don't have to react to anything in FFXIV, everything happens when they should happen.. all you gotta do is memorize the fight.

[@pew3836]

Peak lost ark was december/january with brelshaza, quit the game after that and never once regretted it theres legitimately no point playing the game nowadays unless you are a streamer,student or someone who is able to spend countless hours a week doing the most mind numbing 2CD/2GR per character raids were the only thing keeping me logged in, but even that is just boring, valtan is a breeze, vykas is a breeze, clown is relatively a breeze with pugs too, brel was the most fun, but i couldnt see myself playing g1>g6 each fucking week with how long each run takes, even if everyone knows what to do the time investment for fun just isnt there for me and many other people i imagine, since so many already quit, especially with akkan coming out in a few months, which again makes 0 sense when KR had atleast a year to prepare for that and even then they complained about it, but west gets shafted with almost no down-time between brel hard and akkan + theres 0 effort done in regards to actually helping people to get to the supposedly latest content

[@joshualeon163]

I would like to practice legion raids solo, unfortunately there’s no feature for this.

[@tsumardi]

This is lost ark in a nutshell, "I do dailies to pay bus drivers at the end of the week not because I'm not good enough to do it, it's because I have not given a chance to try it and never will."

[@kanaria-cu3uv]

I don't even understand why people keep bringing up "hell mode" it's a mode played by dozens of people, and it gives you no rewards. no loot, no gold, nothing. you get nothing out of it but a title, and a smug satisfaction of feeling superior to other people for being able to beat it. who the hell cares?

[@saladfingers874]

Sometimes when I get lonely and deprived of human contact, an Asmongold video is really what does it for me. Asmongold content saved my life in 2007 after the great tsunami of ‘07. But Asmongold really pulled through for me. Good work Asmongold. Truly inspirational.

[@looney_sifter3629]

I agree... Asmon content helps me. I live alone so. Plus I like his commentary. And he's funny

[@MoistYoghurt]

@MMAGoblin You mean Asmon?

[@illiil9052]

newly added world tree leafs actually requires to collect from certain objects from certain area.

[@gkp1990]

I really do hope that the devs can flip lost ark around and make it a game worth having growth and love i waited so many years for it to come out and sunk a lot of hours into just exploring, the story, having fun, overall the game is beautiful and i'm a huge fan of the mechanics with combat but it sucks when you get fed low effort brain dead grind garbage ( it's tbh one thing that turns me off about mmos in general but i digress ) hopefully they fix these issues and maybe take the time to overhaul some of the big life factors of this game cause the way it is now theres a lot of people who love the game that don't even get to experience the higher tier stuff and just have to sit and deal with it which kinda sucks since majority people i think are more casual

[@einarsa7196]

Whats wrong eating rice or potato ,they taste good. Rice with chicken and paprika is cheff kiss....

[@MrMagicTrading]

I quit Lost Ark 3-4 months ago.. I bussed every content there was from 2nd week of its release onwards, was super ahead of the average player and accumulated an absurd amount of gold weekly and all of that f2p. I was even ahead of many whales just because I grinded alot and sold carries and I loved that. Deathless Hell Valtan was so fun and satisfying after countless hours of trying. The raids are awesome, the game is fast paced, every class/spell feels amazing to play/press but the grind is just too damn much. Other than the raids the rest of the content is just super boring and repetitive which makes it not enjoyable if you have 6+ characters. Just feels like a job after a while. Kinda sad they never changed that, otherwise this game wouldve had potential to be one of the best mmos of modern times. Anyway nice video

[@Paulfromwish]

i love this video " make your own party " when asmongold literally spams " just make your own guild " or " join a different guild " when it comes to min_max, even completely trash guilds with no clears minmax

[@seclvded]

quit playing LoA like 2 month ago, i miss playing it but thinking about returning and being gatekept makes me not want to go back

[@snookion]

literally in the same boat as you friend

[@eriktonisalu5769]

The only raid that was well designed was valtan, vykas was a nightmare even with 1500+ players, clown was alright since you had 4 less people to worry about and brelshaza is basically for statics.

[@ronfoster6963]

19:00 so true. I stopped hard-grinding this game for a semester of school, and after coming back, I am too far behind to get into the raids.

[@cypher10]

Lost ark raids need to have a real normal mode. Where casual, less experienced players can just get their weekly clears, get some mats, and be done. Then try hards, min maxers and people looking for a challenge can do hard, hellmode, go for deathless. Normal should have high damage attacks, not one shot, less party wipe mechanics, and more item use allowed. The normal modes now are too unforgiving. You'd have less bussing, less gatekeeping, and more people who actually attempt fights and learn mechanics.

[@FtoisMp]

the reason i quit lost ark is because i can't change server. When the game first came out me and my friend started playing in french server and now it's a dead server. If we had the option to at least pay so our accounts switch server we would do that and keep playing the game.

[@tickledpickle5671]

I quit raiding a LONG time ago. (Wrath of the Lich King in WoW, specifically) Not because of the raids themselves, but the drama, the gatekeeping.. Overall the community's bullsh*t. I was kicked from a raid party without even stepping foot into teh actual raid, because the RP gear I was wearing the night before showed up on my armory. One of them actually came to look at my raid gear in person, and said "Oh they're MORE than geared for this raid. But the raid leader said "No, I don't want them in the party because they RP. They're terrible at the game." Saurfang, the big DPS race boss in Ice-crown? I parsed second to a fully gear Unholy Death Knight. As a mage in T8.5 gear, neck and neck with the 10.5 unholy DK, and everyone else was just.. in the dust. I got kicked from my raiding guild for that, by the way...

[@sera_venus]

wow they suk

[@Takamorisan1]

I played until Vykas HM, but then I realized if I wanna have my "time respected" swipe up or deal with 2983103892101 alts to feed your main. Also playing a paladin made me burnout faster given that support life as much everyone need you, if the team is underperforming you are powerless.

[@aguile]

I'll add something of what you said. If it wasn't required to repeat the content x times per week, as x being your number of altos. Probably we would see more people willing to help, since you would have time to play lower level content as well I tried last powerpass and wasn't able to progress at all. Not because of the difficulty, but there were weeks I wasn't able to find people to do lower level content at all

[@SwoleBenji]

I refuse to play it simply because there's more bots than real players. That shows that AGS doesn't care to protect the player base from bots therefore I have no reason to invest my time or money into it.

[@PawsePlays]

They locked gold, and items in the cash shop. I.E I buy this mount/outfit and try to put it on the auction house to make gold. You cant anymore. You have to wait 3 days once the item is bought. Its trade locked till then. Also...Once you buy gold via the cash shop, its also locked for 3 days. You cant use that gold period. Till 3 days is up.

[@_S0Y]

I said it before release, that after enough time, LA would just turn into the same thing blade and soul turned into. A giant raid/score gatekeeping mess with mostly carries being the way you progress or cash shop your way thru it

[@petetam7394]

First thing, I love this game and this is by far the best top-down action RPG I have played. The combat is so smooth with a wide world map and cast of lovely NPCs. However today, I decided to take a long break from this game by uninstalling it after having nearly 1.7k hours in this game. The main reason is probably raid burns out as well as gatekeeping. (A bit on my raid history, I can do Valtan , Vykas ok - sometime even MVPs :)) , learning to do Clown and Brel ). Like Asmon said , this game has hard raid for casual players, especially wipe mechanic. It takes a lot of time to completely master the raid and train your muscle memory and you still can mess up if it is your bad day or the other 7 people bad days :))). Learning party for these raids are very few and more and more group only want to take 1500+ ilevel toons with good gems/ cards / title for quick runs. Most of the time, you want to practice a raid , there is no place to practice. When all progression in a game ties to very hard PVE contents with multiple raid wipe mech that requires 8 players perform at their best, gatekeeping is the obvious. At the end of the day, if a game can not provide players a way to play anytime they want then it will only drive players away. I do hope SG and AGS listen to Asmon and fix the game , they need to address the raid difficulties not just for Valtan / Vykas but also all of the raids and add in effective method to teach players to do it, this won't solve all the gatekeeping problem but at least will reduce it and open more doors for new players enjoy the game.

[@zurnadakipesrev]

Ppl dont understand if game better more player play if more player play you can sell more gold. Basic economy.

[@Lioness257]

As someone who has played Black Desert Online since Beta I can tell you it happened in BDO as well, when they gave away gear that had the same value as the current BiS to new players. So they could progress faster to where the newest content was at. Makes sense, right? As a new player coming in you probably got pulled by the newest content released so you wanna play it asap. Veterans lost their shit over that, bcuz yes.. it was a lot of work getting to full BiS. I can understand both sides but have to agree more with it being a smart decisions towards a healthy future for the game. And look where BDO is now, the game has improved SO MUCH and is enjoyable. Def has its downsides too but those devs are LISTENING. If you are looking for an MMO with a unique combat style AND fun endgame, that one is for you. I am currently trying out LostArk but already know that I wont stick around for raids or whatever. I think if I wanted an mmo like that I can always just spend 13 bucks and join FFXIV for a month.

[@wolk6129]

all they have to do is add a "GuideMode" DungeonFightersOnline have those for most of its raids,you go solo in a more simplified version of the raid with enemies taking more damage and dealing less damage BUT their mechanics are intact and the game explains how everything works,from the stages before the final fight to each gimick within each boss,sadly it consumes you atempt for that raid (the optimal mode would one where you can re-play the raid OR certain fights as much as you want to fully get how it all works) but you STILL get some mats (though reduced in quantity) from the raid so its not all bad but even a Guide Mode wouldn't fix the crazy reaction time needed for some of the fights within LostArk AND wouldn't fix AT ALL the "one fail all die" punishment for failing a gimick,those need fixes by themselves

[@chasedavis36]

Man I wish lost ark would get fixed....I freaking love that game, the graphics, combat, world, everything is so amazing 😭😭

[@Simonsay50]

I Like Hard Raids But Not Doing Them 100x times Its Stressful Not Difficult. Hard Raids Have No Place In A Grinding And Farming Game You Just Burnout Players Faster. Farming And Chilling Is What I Want And Exploring. And Using more Than 2 Alts Is Destroying Mental Health.

[@psysiux4787]

I understand what's ATK is saying, but some of us just don't have the time. Not everyone is a content creator that can grind all day.

[@Applejutsu]

Since the start of online gaming for me, pokemon(it counts) and starcraft, it's always been about one thing and one thing only: Playing with other people. It's that simple. If you're an online gaming company and you aren't actively trying your best to adapt and get more people to play your game, you aren't gonna be an online gaming company for long

[@darienford860]

The game isnt playable anymore you cant progress unless you do raids, you need a group in order to do raid and no one is on to do it.

[@dim3920]

The community itself is very toxic. Unless you have friends to play with the game is unplayable. As most of the "fun" content is group based. People don't treat it as a game and thus they don't have patience and will verbally attack you for not doing what the norm is for each raid, even kick you out the party. People seem on edge, in a hurry and very aggressive towards others. It's just sad. The game has potential, they just need to start treating it as one. I understand that the way the game is laid out has a lot to do with it. But my god if you can't control yourself over a game that wants you to be addicted then you're nothing more than a bot. All i m saying is that people should relax a bit and allow for mistakes, allow new people to try things out, allow the game to feel like it's actually fun and not some kind of race or job.

[@NoMrYes]

I love the game but had to quit. To much time being consumed being jailed or gate keeped. I spend more time in raid lobby than actual raid.

[@SojoX777]

The irony of American players embracing a title like "Rice eater" as called by Korean players is absolutely hilarious if it happened.

[@legitBISH]

Lol the American equivalent of rice eater is bread eater. Basically when you’re so poor the only thing you can afford to eat rice. Just rice. No sides, veggies, meat, etc. similar to when at one point in our history we could only afford bread

[@peterpines4992]

Eh, I would say the point of the term “rice eater” is the fact that you did the RMT. Rice just happens to be a random real life object that you can buy. And it has some harsh tone to it when it is spoken in Korean. It does not necessarily implies that you’re broke even though often times they’re combined togther. Ie) “you buy rice with you RMT money cuz ur poor af”

[@Striker775]

I'll have you know that Americans have the freedom to choose between top ramen and maruchan. much better than just rice.

[@Oldskoolraver-OG]

Exactly.. hell mode should be wipe mecs only

[@draynged7869]

How is that any different from a WOW raid?> If you fail to do a mechanic you die, and in a lot of cases it's a wipe...

[@panopilotti]

Reason I play lost ark is that its have hard content and u can make changes on go when someone fails.. Nerf legion raids game lose its best selling point. Raids are not problem daily homework is and gearing char when u are new in game is...

[@adrielb1327]

I pealed the band aid and just dropped the game despite my hours invested because it was clearly addiction rather than enjoyment keeping me playing. This game is built around an enjoyment level of a 6-7/10 with the idea of it becoming 8-10/10 if u grind thru… but the reality is that the 6-7/10 enjoyment level lasts for 95% of the total playtime. Constantly hoping for the 8-10/10 is what can create addiction and drain ur soul lol

[@YurJaeHuyk]

hard is good , challenging is good but it should be stay at hellmode , we nid room for casual player to progress , most of the new player will quit when only way to progress is pay gold to busser

[@jacqli69]

If the game was fun, people would want to do chaos, guardians and unas multiple times a day. Even for no rewards. Let that sink in. MMORPG players are playing their game not for fun, but for the rewards. Literal loot goblins irl.

[@ryanking8960]

The same thing happened with the game called Wildstar. They made the raids and dungeons so hard that average groups struggled to clear them. People just stopped playing and the game died. The West does not have the tolerance to waste a significant amount of time on these games.

[@davidson2329]

3:30 Excoupe7 I see you

[@krixtorei]

Lost Ark was a great game until it wasn't. At some point in everyone's heads (I hope) things just click and they realise they are sinking their life away in a grinding machine doing the same chores day after day, week after week, for very little enjoyment if any just so they don't fall behind and for what?, So they don't end up being gatekept? For what, content they have to sweat themselves harder than an actual job in order to complete? For what after that, to continue grinding the same gears and wait for next week to do it, and most importantly *suffer* through it all repeatedly over and over? 3,199 hours on record; my second most played game on Steam. Not all of it was bad, I did derive pleasure from it in some way or else I wouldn't have gathered that many hours, but part of me knows the overwhelming majority of those hours were just spent grinding for the sake of grinding/completionism/Fomo and not actual enjoyment over a videogame. (Not to mention the uncountable amount of hours I spent with the game left on as I fell asleep on my chair attempting to finish dailies. Not something I'm proud of either) Still pains me to hear and see Lost Ark being mentioned here and there, part of me still craves it and feels that urge to return... But no, Lost Ark was nothing but a toxic relationship I'm proud to have gotten away from, and I hope whoever is left realises soon enough that this is not the kind of videogame you'd want to get attached to.

[@Shavedforyou]

I truly wish the changes asmon advocates for would come, then I would come back to the game.

[@IlIDOOMGUYIlI]

The problem will never go away unless they make raids playable in solo

[@glhf369]

Smilegate needs to make sure that players can also create their own gears from guardian raids,abyssal dungeon or chaos dungeon not only from legion raid, because not everyone has time to learn the mechanics and play so much in order to make progress, otherwise players can no longer progress in this game and will stop to play.

[@joshfullbright7678]

This is such a un discussed issue, the rng drop rate for good gear is horrible, so you have to go on auction and every gear item is weeks worth of gold. And if you are casual it's damn near out of reach.

[@M1ch43l33]

I mean you can level up your gear to 1490 without ever running a Legion raid

[@booyagm6307]

​@@M1ch43l33 I'm such person and when you hit this mark than what?

[@Alicization30]

Withholding Yoz's Jar for an entire year was just so ridiculous by Amazon, especially their claims of keeping it less "Pay-to-Win". Fast-forward a year later, they add the most Pay-to-Win item, the Esther Weapons. Anything Amazon touches turns to shit.

[@AlanSmith88888]

You don't need Esther weapons to clear content.

[@Nyilith]

@@AlanSmith88888 but if you don’t have it will you be invited to raids lol

[@MrLutharr]

@@Nyilith ofc you will. If you think folks are demanding p2w on a huge scale then you are willfully ignorant, or just a bad actor.

[@Kahez]

@@Nyilith why write a comment about something you have zero clue about? not even 0.0005% of the player base will have this weapon, the odds of you ever crossing paths with a person using this weapon are as close to zero as it can get. in korea there's a total of 80 of this. And they have it for more than 2 years.

[@ziggs123]

Its not Amazon

[@SQLdb]

The number of times where i wished that 2-3 people can just fail a mech and we can still proceed with the freakin raid is countless. I just WISH they remove ALL these 1 mistake wipe mech from the god damn game.

[@vadimnimarov8796]

i just finished d4 and its making me wanna play lost ark. i miss the raid bosses and the combat...

[@macre8389]

Lost Ark is ages above D4 in my opinion. Such a great game, they just need to fix this multiple toons famring.

[@DTreatz]

Dailies, weeklies, monthlies are just some of the _worst_ things added to video games over time. Period.

[@phoenixjin]

Without pheons on tripods, people would buyout low cost pods and list theirs for way higher

[@ardatunaseli5489]

The main problem of the game is that the bosses are not designed well. Let's take Elden Ring. Boos can kill you easily, right? They don't need vipe mechanics for this. I've never seen a boss kill me in a Lost Ark game without the vipe mechanic. This shows me that the game design is going easy. Boss patterns have not been studied, just some shiny attacks, that's all. By the way best boss in the game is Valtan.

[@MootPotato]

if someone was able to reverse engineer the entire game, remove the cash shop and pay walls, and make it subscription only... mm mmm mmmh

[@chuckmarius323]

I'm wondering if it would be better if chaos dungeons and guardian raids would be roster bound, multiply the rewards by number of alts that can do the stage so people don't cry about losing mats from alts.... maybe do the same for legion raids, idk

[@sera_venus]

10:43 you actually would have space in your build if you replace that dumb dash.

[@Grimaldo354]

The release of clown made the game 100 times more fun. The release of brel has made me 100 times more exhausted and bitter about the game. difficulty aside, 6 gates is just too much.

[@johnsilver3781]

simple, get more loot with higher reset on some raids, like double the loot for 14day reset if u choose to

[@codeseeker8727]

surprised they did not just do customable difficulty slider rs3 did it for 3 bosses with loot drop rates scaled to them and worked very well

[@Larsson91ml]

Making an excellent mechanical game - have all the goodies in the game hiding behind a paying fee is kinda ridiculess.

[@zelevasTheGreatEmperor]

What people dont realize is that MMO Studios (and also many other service games) do not necessarily make more money with more players. They aim for whales that pay for 1000 peoples cost in a single month, sometimes week. There were probably alot of people who havent spent money at all in the shop when the playerbase was considerabely bigger and more active than now. So Asmonds calculation with more people = more money isnt that linear.

[@TonyTony__]

It is. You won't have 1000 whales for 2000 players. The relation players number / whales is linear, obvioulsy, and furthermore a game with more player will encourage player to spend more, whales included. You rarely see player spend extra money in a soloplayer game, for a reason.

[@fatwe1992]

My man trippled the length of the og vid. My man. For how complicated the games mechanics are i think the devs could afford to make the raids a little easier.

[@AzureNikki]

I would also do hellmode if not for the battle item cost

[@essurio]

I am guessing „rice eater" means you can only afford rice. Or in other words: poor.