The TRUTH About Our Off-Grid Buildings: One Major FAILURE Revealed

[@Starrynightdiner]

I can’t believe how much you have gotten done. I remember when there was nothing. The dream is reality. ❤❤❤❤

[@DeAnnaG_KissingFrogsMedia]

I just had a thought for your outdoor shower. Have you all considered like a Yurt style roof over your spiral? They have a huge opening and closing dome skylight in the center so you could still have all the light and ventilation and the star views but be warmer in the winters or during bad weather. And then you could add a glass or shutter type door to the entrance to cut down on the wind. Just an idea to play with. I love your homestead and I don't think I have missed a video in over a year! I hope you all stay healthy and well, thanks for being a nice little break for me. Stay safe and embrace the joy!

[@Ecila-Samerberg]

Adeli is allwayse so gentle and calm , no matter what she is doing. Even opening the gate for her dog in the early morning. I like that a lot 🥰

[@rw8147]

I thought the same thing watching another video two weeks ago. She really seems to be a lovely young person.

[@cliffordandrews1700]

You were talking about your chickens not being free range and not getting enough insects and bugs to eat. I took a large bug zapper light and hung it in the coop. not the roost. Ever night here in west TX it draws them in by the hundreds and away from the homestead. When the chickens wake up every morning... Its a all they can eat morning buffet. And you get your rich, yellow egg's again. As well less feed bill.

[@savannahborn4025]

Good video guys. I love that you admit when something just doesn't work. We are, after all, human.

[@medaily57]

As you were telling about each project, telling how long ago you built them, I was amazed at how long I have been watching you. I think I started watching soon after Brooklyn was gone. I spent so much time laughing at Nine Nine, and he brought me back every week. Well, him and that crazy dinosaur that doesn't exist, especially on Wednesdays. I'm excited to see your dad next month, Ashley. See you Saturday!❤

[@kathyhennigan7807]

It always amazes me when we get to look around your place how many, many things you have accomplished. Such a great laugh about the purple "pooper" which will go away when you can use your own home facilities inside and the great septic system you built for that purpose. Who knows, you may even get a regular washing machine inside too! We are all so fortunate to have such wonderful creature comforts at our fingertips. Thanks for another great video.

[@darlenevjohnson5237]

You should try growing Olives. There is a type of olive tree that grows in the desserts of Somalia that can take the heat. (olea europaea sp. africana) Also this type of olive oil is very high in polyphenols, super healthy. Apparently this Olive species produces more polyphenols because of the lack of water and high heat of the desert, just trying to survive the desert.

[@hollyslager2883]

sounds very interesting how do they react to colder temp. I'm not knowledgable about dessert climates but I think they mentioned that the high dessert where they are can get close to zero celcius.

[@darlenevjohnson5237]

@@hollyslager2883 Not sure about that. But I assume that the Somalia Dessert gets cold also.

[@allisonwhite462]

I have russian olive trees here at 2300' in so cal

[@DeboraGee]

There’s so much to enjoy here but one of my favorite things is it feels as real and authentic as the earth itself. No attempts to appear perfect, but a willingness to share mistakes and lessons learned. No Pollyanna, hand-holding, Kumbayah singing stories: even as you admire the beauty around you and express gratitude for the many folks that have helped you in myriad ways, you speak of hardships and heartbreaks with an awareness that your audience is huge and you need to be careful about how much you divulge. Y’all are killing it. ☺️

[@dottier3145]

Haven’t seen Dino for a while!

[@nomorehate9176]

I forgot all about the Casa de Caca! You worked so hard on it! Sorry it's been a problem but I'm sure you'll figure it out!!

[@solarforboondockers8015]

Watching your video today. You're talking about your chickens. You say that the eggs are better if they're eating bugs. I just happen to see a video about people in Australia are building systems to Ray's black fly larvae fire digesting food waste. They have a serious problem with food waste in Australia. The black fly doesn't bother people and the way they're doing it they really don't have black flies. They just have tons of larvae which becomes great food for chickens. You might look into it, it's simple. With a few bins and some black flies and throw all your food waste into the bins and let the larvae grow. It kind of sounds disgusting, but if you watch one of the videos you'll see it's really not.

[@doittoday1]

Awesome idea, I believe Arizona Worm Farm raises and sells Black flys, they are located in Phoenix.

[@nonoddingdog4682]

We’ve worked out with our chickens that if we let them roam for an hour or so before dark they will automatically head back to their roosts/pen. We can attest for the black fly larvae and have small tomato tins with holes drilled hanging with a few pieces of off cut meat. The fly lays the eggs in meat they grow and fall out. Chicken candy.

[@damogranheart5521]

Wow! I've never heard of that before 😮. COOL!

[@sharonyoxall7553]

We have an automatically closing (timed, battery) entry to the coop so that when they return after their late afternoon free range, they are secure for the night - no chasing them up, just closing the gate proper when you get round to it

[@Monkeemama]

Well, the failures are all a part of life and it’s so great for you to share the bad along with the good. So many channels only show the good side of things and that is unrealistic because bumps in the road definitely happen. Yay for purple poopers, right?!? Can’t wait to see how you fix the “Casa sin Caca.” 😉

[@StoneKathryn]

Hi guys! I had bronchitis for a week so I was holed up at my apartment with no wi-fi. Now I'm catching up! I'm so glad to hear that the mini-split has made being in the Airstream so much more comfortable! That's great that the elastomeric paint sealed it up and prevented bugs out of the Solar Shed. I'm glad you changed the bed and you have great storage under it too. I'm so glad that your outside shower has been so great. Too bad the wind whips around inside it. I bet it is harder to use in the winter with no roof. Yes, free range chickens do make for better eggs. Too bad about the neighbor's dogs coming and killing your free range chickens. They do look happy in there. That Legend Dairy Goat Barn is a fantastic build! That color is really nice for that building. Adali has very good color sense. Good to know that the flexible tubes for the water catchment break so you replaced them with regular PVC pipe to the water tank. The Shelter Logic rebuilds were awesome! I'm so glad you have a place to store your building materials now that the feed is over at the goat barn. The raised beds look great! Shade over the garden! Cool, next year you'll add drip irrigation to the raised beds fed by the IBC tote that was being used for the goats. So sorry the composting toilet building isn't working! I hope you can fix it at some point! Thanks for this video Longnecker family!

[@sherirogers2649]

I have watched you guys for years and have enjoyed watching you build and watching the kids growing up. You are all wonderful and I thank you for allowing us to watch you grow. I wish you all continued success.

[@infotoons212]

You guys are really good at this. Not just the homesteading but the YouTubing as well. Thanks for all the Infotainment.

[@dhl1544]

Great update. Thanks. Looking forward to the toilet fix.

[@anton8403]

Maybe you can free range the chickens now that Cloud is guarding the property. He is a Cloud with teeth. :) Love the update. Cant wait to see your house done.

[@patrickrussell1888]

Nice overview of your homestead progress. It is appealing, but a good reality check that its not necessarily easy and requires planning, resourcefulness ($$) and determination on a long term basis. The desert climate is a constant challenge, but there are days where the efforts pay off in enjoymeng.

[@greenbankreptiles]

I'm seeing nothing but success in my mind..it's all needed to progress. Much love and respect to you all

[@MC-qb1jg]

Hey, the structure is there for the bathroom. You will make an amazing bathroom with the excisisting structure. I love your positive attitudes.

[@bobflores]

Thanks for the update on everything.

[@cvzphotography]

Been watching since the beginning. It's amazing to see all the work you've done. I'm interested to see what you do with the casa de caca. Maybe you can convert it into another small bedroom once the house is done.

[@solarforboondockers8015]

Have you looked into cork finish for the outside of your projects. The cork is similar to stucco or the hand finish you're doing now. It's a spray-on. It's colored to whatever color you want to be so you don't have to paint it. It offers extra insulation which you may or may not want. I don't know how that works for you. But it's supposed to hold up for a really long time. It is applied with a spray painter. Mike, are you already using. And I think they offer you a real long time warranty on it. I just saw a video from a company yesterday that's based in Arizona. That makes the stuff. It might be worth looking into for the future. It's possible they might even sponsor you the product just to get the exposure. Keep the videos coming. I enjoy watching you guys. Wonder how you worked that hard everyday? 😎

[@debbralehrman5957]

What is the name of the company? I'm here in AZ.

[@solarforboondockers8015]

@@debbralehrman5957 They didn't give the name of the company in the video. I think ther e are more than one. I'm sure if you do a search for cork coatings you will probably find several companies.

[@paulas_lens]

I found a 12News piece from 4 days ago on the AZ company, Green Cork Products and saw on Google a brand called ThermaShield.

[@debbralehrman5957]

@@solarforboondockers8015 Thanks good idea. I had not heard of this before. Glad you mentioned it.👍🏼🌻

[@jenniferlane9267]

The 2 of you always put a smile on my face! Sorry the Caca didn't go as planned but I'm sure there is a solution. Thank you for all you do, your positive attitudes and friendly smiles! Much love from Iowa!!

[@lauralowery9303]

I didn't realize that you had any failures! It all looks good from my perspective thru your videos. But I guess you're not counting the ways that you fixed any failures that you encountered. You know, those shelter logic buildings will work great as shady shelters in your horse pasture! I'm thinking you will have horses some day, right? Another great video! Thanks! ❤

[@maryhart637]

You have done amazing builds!!! So impressive. Ya know, life is for learning...sorry about the Casa de Caca😪 It is such a cool idea and I hope it can be salvaged🤞🤞You all have fabulous visions...your creativity is breathtaking👏👏👏 Cheers! 🙌😍Onward and upward, my tiny shiny family❤❤❤

[@woop2235]

I love love love your homestead 🥰🌵🌵🌵🐐🐐🐐🐐 btw you are a lovely family. I was hoping you could engage more with the boys☺️ maybe another one of your cooking with the children 😉👍🏽

[@prescotthenry]

.....but, the aesthetics of the Casa de Caca are first class!!!

[@Grandma_NC]

Project Kamp (KZbin) uses compost bins for storing their used compost. After a couple of years it can be used as plant compost. They are in Portugal and have several people on site most of the time. I can't blame you for wanting to ditch composting. Advantage of a septic system is the water gets filtered into the earth and helps the soil above.

[@myknkim2]

I'm so glad you told us about your failure. It sets people free to make mistakes. Everything is fixable, and you've had many more successes!

[@ireneromero5326]

Sounds like a lot of great plans ahead! 😊

[@skepticalmom2948]

Maybe you should build a geodesic dome on top of the chicken garden. Then put double wall plastic on the outside and have a green house.

[@SusanneKellner-tb1nw]

In that climate? Wont that cook them in the Summer?

[@skepticalmom2948]

@@SusanneKellner-tb1nw there are others in Arizona that have greenhouses. You just have to open them and vent them in the summer time.

[@debbralehrman5957]

You have done amazing in 3 years. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 🍂🍁🍂🍁🍂🍁🍂🍁🍂🍁🍂🍁🍂🍁🍂 I'm Projecting with the fall leaves and cooler weather!👍🏼 From Phoenix.😃

[@susankoehler6236]

Awesome video guys! Can’t wait for the next one😊

[@ericjohnson1008]

That cactus looks awesome. It's thornless.

[@memyselfandeye8377]

Dang it! SS check ✔️ isn't until tomorrow! Hope i can get the bundle tomorrow. You guys are entertaining and full of information. Thanks for sharing your expertise and ideas. ❤❤❤❤

[@TinyShinyHome]

It's available until 11:59pm EST tomorrow 👍

[@memyselfandeye8377]

@@TinyShinyHome awesomeness

[@belindachappell9875]

Those portable composting toilets are just not practical for regular use especially a family of six!!! You guys are amazing to have lasted so long 😊❤ Great video guys, thank you 🙏🏻

[@sunshinegrl6073]

West Phoenix Valley here.. try growing potatoes and sweet potatoes. I was able to grow them out here where it's hotter than where you are. They grow great here with composting and shade. I'm learning as much as I can from you and others as we want to do the same thing!

[@patrickrussell1888]

I have also found that shade under maturing trees in Albuquerque reduces the intense sun rays and heat affects on the vegies. Trying red potatoes this summer, along with volunteer cucs. The cucs are surviving but not flowering and producing. Had this problem last summer with bell peppers. Patio tomatoes did great. All vegies in pots. Had six volunteer Desert Willow trees sprout in our front yard this summer! I am raising them in good-sized pots for now. One will go into the front yard of our townhome this fall. They will get about 20 - 30 feet tall and as wide and tolerate pretty dry soil and our mile high location. With the nice monsoons this summer, they literally bloomed all summer. Tough trees for heat snd high desert cold.

[@alysiachristensen5475]

Great episode of so many successes with one failure! Great job guys!!!

[@SabineSontheim]

Maybe a little higher wall and a little more around so the wind cant come in had helped for the shower? As for a roof: maybe a geodesik construction?

[@LB-gr7gu]

Real Life Tutorial.. amazing Love you all ❤️

[@dyannejohnson6184]

Oh! A purple Pooper! Very dignified , a “regal” purple status

[@lindawilson4625]

Great video! Your composting story cracked me up. I really thought it was going to work.

[@kiwitexan6022]

Septic tank cleaning company in New Zealand here. I'd recommend digging 2-4 long drops if you have groups of people coming in and out of the property. Also, you have a portaloo which requires pumping out. If you have the resources out there to get pumped out, another option would be to put a cement or plastic tank in the ground and have it emptied periodically. The long drop method is the cheapest and the best in my opinion as when it's full, you just fill it in with dirt and make another one.

[@taliandzelda5006]

Plan a canning workshop! It's so easy. You will have so much fun.

[@pollyb.4648]

I assumed the gorgeous outdoor shower would be the star of the show. Love it! ✨

[@callieward8362]

Way to go! There are no failures, only new ways to different creations!! ❤❤ One person who believes in themselves on more powerful than millions who do not!! What kind of shampoo and soap do you guys use? The plants/trees don't mind the soaps?

[@someoneelsemothermother8259]

Omg i used an outhouse in july in AZ one time. It was a sauna inside it. When i finished i could not pull up my pants do to the sweat. I had to step out exposeing myself. I don't know how your visitor's can manage, you should have the door face away instead of forward. Men are so lucky sometimes.

[@TinyShinyHome]

We're ok over here :)

[@robinmillerkroening3493]

I can’t believe I’ve been following you for almost 3 years. I started watching when you were mid the solar shed. I have loved watching and I’ve learned so much. I’d love to come see your homestead but I’ll stay here in Minnesnowta and watch you from here!. You are like family ❤️🙏🏻

[@cbgb3369]

I can’t believe I’ve been watching your channel for 3 years! ❤

[@Linda-it6ci]

I saw on another homesteaders show the lady was drying her figs in hanging basket thingamajig... Another way of drying tomatoes etc......😊blessings darlings from Granny Linda in OZ.....

[@MrSunlander]

Oh, we gotta get Dowding to Tuscon and you guys! What a lot of achievements and you are so sharing of what you learned from what doesn't work. Happy Equinox eve week.

[@rnggall9640]

Your Win column is way longer than your 'We learned a lot" column!

[@bmr250]

Thank you for great videos. I live in TN and the summers are brutal, I need to get some shade cloth for my garden, I don't know how I will do it yet. Love you guys.

[@laurakroll5189]

Girl you definitely need a tractor if your going to wear that hat...your ready for the plow! Homestead looks awesome, huge shout out to the chickens (some of us will never forget the carnage, a moment of silence please). Yay for salsa!

[@justiceO8149]

Fantastic recap! You guys are such a team. Septic tanks are great things, but I'm sure someone will crack the code of the barrel compost and it will become easy as.

[@kathiebauer5165]

Guess I’ve been watching since you finished up the office. Your videos are great. Do you think your chickens would go in at night by themselves? You’d still have to shut the door. We have hawks during the day, coyotes at night.

[@CMcKinnon1013]

Amen, everything will work out 😊❤🙏

[@wadeprior5203]

Good morning you guys ladies how you doing today hope you're having a wonderful day keep up the good work and say hi to the kids for us and the animals

[@jacquelinehultermans7157]

I am from Belgium and learned canning from Homesteading Family on YT. Easy peasy 😊

[@PeggyStentzCasey]

Sorry about the Casa de Caca! I just assumed it was going well. It sure looks good! Dad to the rescue!!!!

[@lynnbartel5138]

The glass bottles of Disaronno Liquor would be prefect for you building style as they are clear rectangle and have a rainfall finish so the are not see thru.

[@noramascarenas9990]

Hello Tiny Shiny SUPERHEROES. 😊 Just wanna say...I think the chicken garden is the prettiest build! I would live in it if it had a full roof. It's beautiful...a mini me of your roundhouse. Also the Casa de Ca Ca can be converted into a sleep space for your oldest son. ( I get the names confused Jet & Jax) So lastly, it's been an amazing journey watching all your hard, hard work and wonderful progress. You also look so happy. Blessings to you all. ❤

[@davec9244]

looks like 9 out of 10 successes is a win. It all looks good to me. Butt, butt what went wrong the composting toilet was it the smell? It looked to me the drums or barrels are too small. It takes a long time to decompose, even then you have to remove the compost from the drum. Back in the day we used chemical like lime to speed up and cover the smell. That can be fixed someday, I love my modern plumbing "flush and forget about it" so nice. thank you all

[@TinyShinyHome]

We'll get into all that when we tear it out, but everything is to spec, and we have talked to other people with the same issues. We think there are some large design flaws in the plans, but need more time to research and back it up.

[@jomomma1512]

Canning is super easy! Once you get your new kitchen, you will be off to the races!!

[@SG-vu4qy]

your Goat barn esthetics, color choice, trim build is the best most tasteful blend with the landscape, is the best I've ever seen. BTW your nesting box is too high and needs camoflage. I learned the hard way that my coop and roostw were too high causing foot bruising. I adjusted coop, roost and boxes to 18". Gorgeous work on your homestead. Kudos from Northern AZ.

[@williej3831]

I would have someone clean out that purple pooper too. Who would want that job. Fantastic for you. Great video as always.

[@tigerguitara]

It’s been a while since I’ve checked in on you and the progress is amazing! Your homestead is incredible ❤

[@sunflowerfina1]

Hiya from London. Re the chicken coop- Maybe allow them to use the garden area too to fertilise the space. 😊

[@tanyacouchman6534]

So I guessed the chicken garden was the fail, just because it's not done. One thing about it, it's serving a great purpose for the chickens. And when the time comes it will be so neat. I agree the house takes priority and that's more important. That's going to be so epic when that day comes and you walk through the door and your in your house. Finally thank goodness for good ole dad 😉 Between him & Jonathan & all of the helping hands you'll get r done. I enjoy all your content thanks for sharing

[@donnapauley8183]

Your homestead has just grown and is Beautiful! I’m so sorry the Cara de caca didn’t work! Itnis so pretty though!! Good luck guys!

[@BrightestBlessings7899]

I grew alot of Yellow Doll watermelons last year. They are amazing!

[@judelarson846]

Tomatoes - salsa and a canning hint. Tomatoes can often ripen --- erratically. They do not seem to operate on a firm schedule. Pick them as they ripen and toss them in large freezer bags as you go - no need for any prep aside from rinse off if dusty. Then - when you are ready and the tomatoes are all harvested - take them out and thaw. They will peel like a dream without blanching and then you process using what ever recipe you want. This makes life a lot simpler and allow you to plan. They freeze nicely and will stay stored like that for months so you can can in cooler times. Size and type do not matter.

[@juanitakauffman6336]

Thanks for the video. Makes us realize the things you have accomplished so far.

[@biddiemutter3481]

12:53 would it be possible to raise a couple of geese with the hens, with a large bowl of water for them to paddle/ wash. To act as noisey guards?

[@TinyShinyHome]

We have livestock guardian dogs now as a result of the neighbor's carelessness

[@veronicabass5333]

Another great video. Ya'll do great work, so upbeat, and silly, funny, and adorable. 😊❤

[@hayleydwyer1469]

Loooved this recap and update!!!

[@nancyhubbard221]

Thank you for sharing all these projects with us. Nice summaries of each of them, including what did and didn't work! Love your openness and honesty. I had wondered whether Casa de Caca was being used or not, so that was good information. Hope you can figure out how to make it workable. Porta potties aren't fabulous, but thank goodness they exist! As always I love your come what may, we'll get it done attitudes.

[@ruthlward3240]

You should of really had two a/c units on your airstream, but you are correct about the power usage. The mini-split was an excellent idea.

[@phillipErskine-jk1jt]

Hey if you do a low rise bed and put hardware cloth on top in the chick space you can have fodder all year long in the chicken space because they will not be able to scratch it up. Plus the bugs it will attract for the chicken is as you know a win win. Landscaping timber high low because you want them to us it but want to keep the roots.

[@veeemit9719]

You guys this was a great tour/update!😊

[@jo-ellenbass2261]

Awww! So sad about the Casa de Caca. But I don't see it as a total failure. You learned a lot from it, and the building is beautiful. If that is all that failed, I'd call that a win. Looking forward to the berm and swale walk through. And, of course, more house build.

[@janwinters9181]

You talked about your outdoor shower and said you wished you covered it. Is it the size that an old satellite dish could be used to cover but still let in some air? Love your channel and really enjoy your banter. Love from Snowflake, AZ

[@milohobo9186]

This seems like a perfect place to build my dream solar kitchen with parabolic solar cookers and solar ovens galore

[@Beth_Agnes]

What I know about elevated southern Arizona, the fall & spring are the best time to grow stuff. The summer here is the shortest season in my experience (Santa Cruz County)

[@dancingwithbears9015]

It seems I can't comment??? Because I didn't "join" for $5/mo ?? Might just be a glitch.

[@josh300]

Hey guys! Your story has always inspired us, and is very informative about different techniques and situations in your homestead. We started our own project in Mexico, in a similar weather as yours. What has been the main issue of the Casa de Caca? We have been through different dry toilets, some were good, others not so much. Can you share a few specifics about your issues? The system we use is a simple bucket with diverter for urine. It has never given us issues, even gives a forest like smell to it. Keep growing and sharing your experiences. Success to the Shiny Tiny homestead!

[@TinyShinyHome]

We'll be sharing more when we do the full update :)

[@christinecoe1827]

You should mosaic the wall where cloud digs. Pretty mosaic, rocks, marbles or something.

[@latifaagius39]

You could put a beautiful foldable or panel oriented teepee style roof on the shower area. Japanese style is light. Weather proof, dismantles, stores easily. ❤️🙏🏽

[@SabineSontheim]

I would love to know what exactly went wrong with the casa de caca? Is it completely unusable? If so why? How you plan to fix it? If its unfixable, just dig the barrels out and use it as a live/storageroom? Its a nice room overall and has a sink in it..

[@TinyShinyHome]

We'll cover all that when we re-do it...

[@pamim7902]

Oh love, you guys had no idea that the Casa de Kaka wasn’t working. I thought because you had people coming in and out you needed the purple box. Good luck can’t wait to figure out how you fixed it because that like to do that I mean, build our own composting not work on yours.😮🤣🤣

[@funnywolffarm]

Have yall tried the plywood trick in the chicken run? You wet down an area of earth, put plywood over it and next morning flip it over and the chickens feast on bugs. Might sustain you for a little while.

[@latifaagius39]

You could put a beautiful foldable or slidable to stack in 2 places , in winter unfold/ summer fold. panel oriented teepee style roof on the shower area. Japanese style is light. Weather proof, dismantles, stores easily. ❤️🙏🏽

[@kimberlyllamas5804]

I say take all of the toilet things out of the building and turn it into another living space. It's already built!

[@patrickrussell1888]

Yah, and maybe have an old-fashioned wood outhouse with a lime pit. Our family did that when we homesteaded for a summer in eastern Sierras during the mid-50's. LOL😊

[@sevenonfive1968]

I wouldn't say Casa de Caca was a failure... ( I have promoted this idea to soooo many people so far) 😂😂😂, it's a work in progress.. and has our Tiny Shiny Family ever not been so optimistic!!! We will make it happen.. 🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@sharonrhoads2461]

You will have to build a cellar after you finish the house for all those canned tomatoes. ;)

[@JustMe-s6s4m]

Were you able to check into those free water generating panels that Cochise County is apparently giving away? I saw them on another Cochise County KZbin account and messaged you because with 6 people, numerous anumals and gardeny, you can never have too much water.

[@TinyShinyHome]

They're actually pretty big and kind of hard to integrate into what we've got going on currently. Maybe one day!

[@jameseacobacci2923]

Hi there, Keep up the good work; you have created a unique experience, lifestyle and provide a resource with merit. Regarding the ‘Casa D’ Caca’. May not be as you intended, but hardly a complete failure. You still have a nice structure, with water collection, that can be converted into… (Fill in the blank) As I see it: it’s an opportunity to remodel into a proper bathhouse, flushing toilets (2-stalls?) and indoor showers (2?) with plenty of hot water, a couple sinks, mirrors and a split mini heat-pump for year-round comfort. Could be other things… but that’s my vote. May be well after the house is done, or may be a decent side project. Look at the support you got for the Goat Shed. Maybe some of your future workshop guests would be willing to pitch in? I understand the added cost, work, septic system, etc. (shower water to irrigation, toilets to conventional septic system) But what a real plus for the family, and, guests, etc. It’s not a failure it’s experience… I have lots of experience. 😊

[@jameseacobacci2923]

Actually, maybe double stalks is a bit optimistic, maybe just 1 big ‘conventional’ bath house.

[@mothermedicinemusic]

You folks are Rock Stars❤