The truth about Owning a Land Rover Defender

This video recaptures our experience in the last year of ownership. We have put on 12,500 miles in that year. There were a few issues, we take some time to talk through what was done in this past year. We leave it up to you to determine if the Land Rover is Dependable. Can a Defender be a reliable vehicle? We talk specific to the 90 in a couple areas.
#Landrover #Defender #90 #offroad

[@lbco5229]

I’ve had my Defender (P-400, 4-door) for 2.5 years now. Zero problems. Totally reliable and a joy to drive. I love it. Sold the Porsche Macan for lack of use. Kept the 911.

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

Good choices!

[@YoshiV819]

Funny, thinking of selling my 21 Macan S for a Defender. Not for lack of use tho, 40,000 miles and 10 states in 2 years. Think I'm the only person on Earth that actually uses their Macan. Just want to go farther off road!

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

@YoshiV819 Macans are a great vehicle. Almost bought one in '17. Would definitely be a dramatic vehicle change for you!

[@ggolds5]

@@YoshiV819 The Macan is notoriously reliable. The LR clearly not so much. I hope whatever you chose you love it.

[@ryanjcoon1]

Do you still own P400? Any issues with ownership?

[@michaelpalmer4624]

Ive had my 90 XS P400 for 3 months now and I absolutely fucking love it. Smooth, comfortable & fast AF. I'm super happy

[@lbco5229]

I’ve had my Defender for a year now. Absolutely amazing vehicle!!

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

Sure is!

[@adkc19]

I've had a P400e for a year, absolutely nothing wrong with it, perfect, very comfortable and love it

[@joshowens2219]

Only been a year. Everything starts to go wrong right around when the warranty is up.

[@adkc19]

@@joshowens2219I don't agree, and, I've had RR , RR Sport, the old Defender, Freelander, and, all have been at least as reliable and much nicer than than the ML and X5 I also had over the years. My wife runs a year old RR Sport now and, I'm very happy with it.

[@honestjoe632]

Interesting what you mentioned about the perceived unreliability. There really needs to be a better metric for measuring the reliability of a vehicle…

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

Totally agree!!

[@adventurefuel5172]

I’ve watched all your Defender vids as I’m seriously considering one. They have confirmed both my fears and hopes. I’ve had a Gen 1 Disco that was 100% trouble free for 170k, and a Range Rover that was a bit “persnickety” from day 1. It’s such a roll of the dice with LR. If it’s good for the first 10k, keep it forever. If it’s trouble, flip it and run. That’s the position I’m taking. Thanks for the detailed information.

[@TheWorksofJGray]

Did you end up getting the defender? If so how’s it going so far ? I’m seriously considering one, cross shopping with more reliable brands but I’d feel like I’m sacrificing looks.

[@justSTUMBLEDupon]

That makes sense! It is sort of like rolling the dice with them. I want the defender so I’ll guess I’ll take a chance and if it has major issues year one, I’m out 😂

[@anthonyinglis4078]

I have one, a few very minor issues. If you buy then make sure you always have a LR warranty. Don't buy if you can't afford this yearly cost

[@adventurefuel5172]

@@TheWorksofJGray No Defender yet. It’s still an itch I have, but I love my Raptor, and my trailer just work together perfectly. A Defender means starting all over with a build.

[@adventurefuel5172]

@@anthonyinglis4078 Maintenance and repairs are one thing. Reliability is another. As a suburban transport, a warranty is fine, but You cant afford to have a truck get sketchy on a trail way off in the middle of nowhere.

[@pv2870]

I drive a 1998 TDI. It made it home after hitting a concrete barrier at 50mph. No airbags or warning lights to annoy you, even with the engine torn off its mounts. Doesn't steer. Doesn't brake or accelerate. Noisy, smokey, uncomfortable... Love it.

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

Man that sounds like a killer ride. I'd love it too

[@user-sn1xf7vj1r]

😅👍👋

[@tolitsdterrible4785]

4 years now and I never had any such problem with my Toyota. In fact, zero problem. At such price, I think that's very disappointing.

[@daviddaly1257]

Which Toyota are you comparing this to? The high end Toyota's have there problems too...🤔

[@2006beriberi]

😂

[@bonjovi1354]

​@@daviddaly1257yup like clogging of sand and all in air filter or on some filters on lc300s ... Aftermarket is very limited ... Lc70 80 200 has steering issues also and many but very minor issues some of their heating , fans infotainment systems r dead ... 😂 Lol

[@dinosehic4158]

Toyota are reliable but boring to look at 😆

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

Thoughts on '24 land cruiser?

[@ggolds5]

Ive had 3 Land Rover Range Rover products. None were reliable. The Range Rover Evoque 2016 was just awful. However, I LOVED them. Ive had everything. From new Vetts to 4runners. I have a Jeep Rubicon 4xe with 20 k miles and its been perfect. 20K miles on any of the LR's had tons of issues. I WANT a Defender. Like a hot x girlfriend. You never get over how much you loved having her, but unfortunately she was the least reliable person in your life, and she's LONG gone thank G-d. I WANT a Defender.

[@dave206p3]

Yeah great video. I got my 2022 defender 90 base model with the 18” steel wheels and I take it off-roading quite a bit, love the thing, turns on a dime in the city or off-road. Did get a crack in the windshield and all windshield are on backorder so who knows when I’ll get it replaced. You guys did the best review of the 90 thanks!

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

I was told by the oem windshield supply that they are telling people three month, but they really have no idea. Crack on mine spread rapidly so went with the knock off.

[@olliepopAMV]

The speaker situation is 100% correct. A software update awhile back fixed it mostly.

[@msh441]

My dad just bought one, right after I grabbed ‘23 4Runner TRD Pro. Love them both. Looking forward to trails ahead!!!

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

Good pairing! Enjoy them both.

[@isaiahjohnson2933]

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE DETAILS INFORMATION!!!!!!!!!👍🏿👍🏿

[@tatianad4855]

Everyone advised me against buying a LR Disco 4, I did not listen, I bought it 7 years ago, done 100.000km and I still love it. I get in front of the steering wheel to relax. Nothing like the rolling quality of a LR. I do little off-roading, but even in motorway quality all season tyres it has been brilliant on mud or snow, as the electronics and differentials do all the work (ok on rocks one has to be careful with standard tyres, but it is still superbly comfortable). And it can tow a building and be loaded with a household! The defender 90 will be my next car if I decide to downsize. Otherwise the Defender 110 is the real successor to the Disco. Brilliant cars.

[@3204clivesinclair]

How many visits to the repair shop since ownership (be honest)?

[@alexandermtweve2578]

LR know, maybe better than any auto maker how to make great offroad response systems, even in crappy tires, they perform amazing off the road

[@tatianad4855]

@@3204clivesinclair I suppose you mean besides the annual service so ok, I will be honest, about once a year. In the very beginning I had a stupid problem with a sealing rubber band on the windscreen, I had a replacement job on the front wheel system that was under warranty (caused by serious potholes), and two sensor failures (spare tyre pressure sensor and a fuel sensor, which was worrying but was a false alarm, and was caused by local diesel quality). Other than that, the heating windscreen was great in the beginning but has lost its heating ability in a couple of spots. That’s about it. I don’t consider it a lot, in 7 years and 100.000 km. But yes, service is costly and some parts need more frequent replacement due to the sheer weight of the monster (break pads and tyres notably). I cannot say how the car would behave if I did a lot of harsh off-roading, but this car is in my view one of the first real SUVs (i.e utility background evolved to offer also serious comfort). I was looking for the towing capacity, so at the time of purchase I tried a Toyota Land Cruiser (the simple, not the 100), which was comparable in price, but both my daughter and I got seasick in it (!!!) and a Mitsubishi Pajero, which was much cheaper but pathetic on the motorway. I did not want an American car (not a fan of Jeep, been in a couple and I don’t enjoy them) and I don’t think there was any other passenger car with this towing capacity in Europe. Voilà.

[@onegod4009]

I’m really thinking of getting the 2022/3 defender 110 x diesel , my mrs had the discovery sport 2018 hse luxury was lovely to drive but at 30 000 km started losing power after the service it felt good as new again but after a 5000km power loss again Land Rover said it was the batter 👀

[@ryanjcoon1]

What issues have you. experience with LR4 ( 4 Cyclinder)?

[@seanstack180]

ah geeze, I have my ordered defender being built right now. Hopefully they fixed these issues on the 2023's! That said I had similar issues with my 2018 RRS that is being traded in- most of the issues were minor annoyances that were fixed right away. Land Rover customer service is some of the best in the biz!

[@jeffmullins8999]

You guys are so great for this and the other Defender 90 videos. I just got my 2023 Defender 90 S - 4 cylinder and have a couple of hundred miles now. Love, love, love this vehicle. My wife may even be a bigger fan. You helped me make the final decision a while back by your well-detailed descriptions and comments on the 90. I also have the white color with the two-tone white roof. I added a few items that I highly recommend (the divider trays for the front and rear parts of the consoles, an aluminum trim that overlays the "Defender" stamped on the inside gate, step rails, and a black aluminum license frame from LR). I also changed the tires to the Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac 255/55/19 which lowered it 2 inches and gave it a nice aggressive look without road noise. It also has the Windsor leather seat option in "light oyster" that compliments the inside well. This really gives it a luxury feel (but beware if you are not a clean rider although it has guaranteed color protectant). Absolutely would buy this again and again. I agree also on the coil springs. I just traded my LR RR Sport with air suspension and I think the Defender actually rides better and without the worry of maintenance down the road. Previous to that I owned a Jeep Wrangler and cannot stress the major difference in the two. I drove away with the sticker price of $64k and will never regret it. The dealer said people saw it hit the lot (even though I built it and had my name as "sold" on it) that people were begging to buy it before I picked it up. Again, you nailed the reviews dead on and I am a fan for life!!

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

Awesome glad your happy with your purchase! Appreciate you taking the time for the write up. That is a big part of what makes this enjoyable! I was told by the dealer locally "that thing is rolling gold currently"!!!

[@gl897]

great feedback! Cant wait to get my Defender 110 here in South Africa. Takes about 6-8 months in the current climate, built / assembled in slovakia and sent to us here. Great video as well. I was also glad to wait a while so they can sort out some kinks

[@jeremygaynor2410]

How many ‘trivial’ issues are acceptable for $120k australian?? naah get real ! - yes it looks good but its size and the air suspension is another unreliability issue and your guff about a daily drive and ‘apps’ just don’t wash! Thats what i call trivial !! Gas as you call it (petrol) is a major issue in Australia and the poor backseat is a disaster given the cost!!

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

What vehicle do you enjoy Jeremy?

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

I agree. It would be great if the issues were sorted. Once they do get sorted, I am sure it will be just in time for new ones!

[@mikeymike9118]

I have a 2020 D110 P300 that rides on the 18” off-road tires on steel wheels. Steel is real and these wheels look great. In 18 months (11,000+ miles), my D110 P300 has been reliable with zero mechanical issues. There is a paint drip on the B-pillar but it is only seen when the door is open and you look for it. I consider myself lucky. This is comfortable ride that can go anywhere, anytime in a manner that eludes most vehicles. The P300 (2.0l 4cylinder) engine makes a pleasant sound at low speeds and is relatively quiet at highway speeds. It sucks gas, but that has more to do with the Defender’s steel-intensive underpinnings. Steel is real (and heavy). Cannot recommended this vehicle enough.

[@davidlythgoe8478]

12 months and just under 6,000 miles. with mine. Could sell for a profit but really not sure what I'd want to change it for. Love it...

[@MIZUNOMP60]

My wife wants one but the 4-door. I've done a lot of research on them and there's a lot to like. How has reliability been for you? I know people complain about how poorly built these can be and can have some infotainment and some electrical issues but are they really as bad in this regard as the internet leads you to believe?

[@davidlythgoe8478]

@@MIZUNOMP60 I've had no problems whatsoever with mine in twelve months. Had problems with the old Defender and Discovery = and I've had a few. This Defender is brilliant.

[@MIZUNOMP60]

@@davidlythgoe8478 awesome, great to hear thanks!

[@supremeleader7264]

@@MIZUNOMP60 I also have had the 110 for 7 months and it’s been amazing. About 4k miles so far but I’ve had no issues. Ride comfort and drive is so smooth

[@christianbolt5761]

I love the Defender and Bronco, but all the issues steered me to a 4Runner.

[@pastoryoda2789]

Great Choice and also FJ Cruiser are really nice cars

[@newstuffsucks...5754]

Good choice

[@Luke-qs2cg]

4 runner with its own issues Toyota bros never want to talk about. From differentials needing replacement nice and early, steering columns getting all bent out of shape, general shit fuel economy, no power for a vehicle that size, people that put big tires and rims are always coming in for wheel bearings, etc etc. Toyota bros just don't bitch about this stuff as much as others. They actually think their cars are going to last a half million miles with no maintenance. So they service them as such as well. One of MANY reasons Toyota's value keeps falling through the floor.

[@Wanderfresh]

4 Runners have horrible gas mileage.

[@megatrondecepticon3348]

Have any of you ever had your engine fan continuing running with laud sounds after you turn off ur defender?

[@ScottChristiezone]

great, honest review. Well done.

[@andrewg9236]

Great review guys, the 90 will always be a unique vehicle, 👍

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

It sure will!

[@williamguillIII]

That's a nice review of your wife's vehicle! I love everything about these Defenders. Going off road, the 2 door is the one you want to have though.

[@JJ-Bond]

my brand new 110 x had a loose steering wheel clicking evey time turning around the corner or resting hands on the wheel

[@DavesIneosGrenadier]

Minor stupid silly things that were easy to fix??? It is supposedly a robust off road vehicle. In Australia it is very easy to find yourself 2,000kms away from the nearest dealer so those minor silly things can become a real problem.

[@farzana6676]

That's why you buy a Fortuna in Australia.

[@goodfodder]

JLR - v1.0 products always have teething problems as its a low volume manufacturer, you can’t compare them to high volume high budget companies, you have to expect that for exclusivity.

[@farzana6676]

@@goodfodder The German luxuries don't have those problems.

[@goodfodder]

@@farzana6676 Sorry however in my experience they most certainly do and e.g Porsche make more 911s than JLR makes defenders, not to mention their much higher r&d budget

[@SeaJayBelfast]

That's fine, you'd obviously stick with something simple and less refined in that case. The new Defender has a new place in the market. Maybe that suits you, maybe it doesn't.

[@ZWAmundson]

You guys happy with tbe 19inch black wheels? I spec'd mine the same but am waiting delivery. Have read the options for 19inch rims is pretty limited.

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

Have zero complaints about the wheels. It fits this spec really well.

[@ZackSimone]

Depends what you are looking to do. I got 19s, but that’s because I was uninformed. I’m planning more rock crawling and off roading. So I’ve just gotten new 18 inch rims. To allow more versatile tires like the KO2s. Since to your point, 19s do limit the type of tires you can get / use. Looking back that’s probably the only change I’d make to my original order would be 18s. Vs the 19s. Just to save me cost in the new rims. I got a 110 p300.

[@vikingtractor6065]

I love the Defender. Glad to see one with tires that have some sidewall.

[@CLStech]

What feature on the aftermarket windshield provides that iridescent look?

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

We are actually putting a video out next week that talks about the windshield and drama surrounding it. Stay tuned!

[@oaktree5975]

The most beautiful car on the road bar none.

[@dudarenkochannel]

guys glad to see you again! thank you for your expierance! I am owning defender s 2022 p300 110 7 seats already more than half year! the same problems with driver seat(! dealer ignore this issue at all ! the same problem with driver speaker , dealer could not find problem!( quality of assembly is not perfect...BUT : love this car all my hearth and could not imagine on what I can replace it)! driving this car in California and my MPG near 15MPG...((and price on fuel in Costco 6$...now I in Minnesota by the work and spring is fantastic!) we moved from Minnesota one year ago and missing this amazing state! now Land Rover defender in real investment;)!

[@billybob1511]

Wow that's a bit thirsty?

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

It is hard to get away from that brick shape driving down the road thing.

[@daveduthie2125]

How do ya get gear in the rear? Maybe ok at shops but towing!Do you have to unhook the boat to access??Show stopper for me,ps. All manufacturers seem to be lacking easy rear access.

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

Good towing capacity. But yes, dependant on your trailer that could be annoying!

[@victorzavala3401]

I just got my defender 2023 brand new in June 2023. Today my steering wheel froze and I get an alert “lane assistance not available”. Also, screen goes black very often, right door makes a noise when I open and close. I feel this car will start having a lot of issues very soon!

[@wudznutt6732]

It's strange how when JD Power reinforces certain buyers ideas about how good the vehicle that they want is. That it has few problems and longevity overall, but when Power comes up with their opinion that certain vehicles ( Rover in particular and Jeep to some extent) are undependable and subject to shortened longevity and costly problems, JD Power is no longer getting it right.

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

I have not been a fan for a long time. Everything started to make sense when we purchased a handful of new cars over the years and being observant to their surveys that showed up in the mail.....

[@Salsgarageadventures]

Just an fyi, coming as a former dealer technician, writing that a bolt was stripped out on our storie helped get more time from our tickets. Basically warranty times wouldnt pay enough so we would have to make an excuse to get more time out of a job. I wouldn't take that description seriously as in reality it probably never had a stripped bolt. The tech just wanted to get paid more for the job.

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

I do understand your statement. However with the issues that were occurring, meaning the speaker being loose. As well as the seat bracket being loose. I do not dismiss the fact that there could have been a stripped or not fully torqued bolt. I would not necessarily disagree with what you said either. Appreciate the comment.

[@CrueLoaf]

I had the 'sand' noise on my 110. On a windy day, at a certain temperature and a certain speed. It was very intermittent. Haven't heard it for a while but I assumed it was normal. £155 to fill my 110 with fuel!

[@hhanger1]

we have a 2019 BMW X5 ;and it had multiple computer display related issues. Some have never been resolved after multiple attempts. It was a new system and it simply wasn't ready for primetime.

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

Arrgggg the Germans!

[@Reko_89]

I absolutely love my Defender! Best SUV I’ve ever owned!

[@keithfitterer6899]

We have a 2023 model and have had trouble with it shifting from drive to neutral at stoplights! Trouble getting it back into drive!

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

Why are you trying to get into neutral at stop lights if you don't mind me asking? The ZF transmission is proven awesome across multiple manufacturers. I bet that is software.

[@keithfitterer6899]

@@PerformanceOnWheels the defender is automatically doing this , we’re not shifting it our selves. The dealer stated it was a transmission problem with the computer program. Everything operated by chips.

[@frank8040]

Good to see a new video. Thought you may have called it a day

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

Minnesota winters tend to scare us away 😧. However for now. We are back

[@frank8040]

Fellow Twin Cites resident here so I feel your pain

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

I'm over it

[@ggolds5]

Do you still have the LR 90?. My Jeep 4xe lease is over and went back to the leasing company. First time ever I returned a lease vehicle rather then just trading it in. The residual was too high. Jeep was Perfectly reliable. So much for Consumer Reports.LOL. Back and forth with the LR dealer and they still aren't doing anything at all to make me feel like I'm getting even a tiny bit of a good deal. Waiting for prices to become a little more within reason. I refuse to pay MSRP on anything even though some of the LR's on their lot have sat for almost a year. That's insane. They still won't do anything to make me feel like I won't be getting ripped off.

[@sunshinedaily6399]

Why didn't you open the rear door and show how you've used the space (or lack thereof)?

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

Subscribe and check out our video.... Is the defender 90 practical..... You will have to watch and tell us how Grandma Ida is doing.

[@rockkauffman7973]

Awesome validation for why I ordered my 90 Defender…I’m all about in “town driving” this vehicle has not disappointed me yet…Perhaps my only complaint is Everybody is checking me out…because the car is so beautiful…🌞

[@rippinmachines]

How do you like the defender vs the L322?

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

That is actually a hard question to answer. Good question......if the l322 did not have the known issues.... Man I just really don't know. Let me stew on that.

[@frankcouper9377]

Bought few RRs 2008 -2010. They were all plauged with reliability issues. Wouldn't buy another Land Rover product. Styling is on point though.

[@ukaszmielcarek2325]

I’m wondering how this white parts on sterling wheel are holding a after this 18 months?

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

They were great!!! They are they same texture as what is on the dash it kinda rough. Another note. If you live in a cold climate that part is super cold! So it does not get touched a lot, assuming you have the heated steering wheel.

[@yvonnes8701]

Does anyone know if they’re still coming out with the LR Defender 80 Junior?!

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

Therer has not be mention yet of it not going through. Should be 2023.

[@StephenFogarty2023]

It will happen Hopefully released by late 2023. 🙏🏻

[@harriettkelley3240]

Excellent video. I love my 2021 Defender 110 V6. My baby is a year old. I love it so much even more than my son and hubby do who were the ones who wanted to make sure I test drove one. I have had a few hiccups but all resolved quickly. Howard Orloff in Chicago is awesome.

[@caseyjakemorris]

Had to re read this, at first I though you were saying you loved the Defender more than your family. Thought “damn, must be a hell of a ride” lol

[@harriettkelley3240]

@@caseyjakemorris well some days I might. At least I have a great ride to get a break from them. 🤣🤣

[@caseyjakemorris]

@@harriettkelley3240 well said!

[@StephenFogarty2023]

Glad u r enjoying your Defender I presume it’s the P400 ? This motor is a 3 litre straight six cylinder. It’s not a V6.

[@cliffordr961]

Thanks for the honest review. 👏 $58K for a vehicle chock-full of Build Issues? And the vehicle doesn't even have a Power Driver Seat??? 🤯. Sorry but No Thanks! JLR is famous for poor quality and your experience proves it.

[@Superdada]

You guys seem like some nice dudes. Great review.

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

Well thank you. You seem like quite a nice guy yourself😀

[@brettknoss486]

It's interesting about the infotainment. Tata could serve a real niche if it outsourced tech support and provided assistance to independent mechanics.

[@justSTUMBLEDupon]

So it’s been 3 years now. How’s it going?

[@davidhunternyc1]

I love the Defender 90 and it would be my first choice of car. I was wondering about quality control and whether or not the loose screws and replacement windshield is more than minor to me. For this price the fit and finish should be perfect. Then again, look at the fit and finish on Tesla's. I'm glad you gave us your opinions about the rear seats too. I thought they would be spacious and comfortable but I was wrong. The Defender 90 is a big car, way too big for to be simply a 2 +2 and I consider the rear seat problem a major flaw. I hope Land Rover figures out a way to make it more roomy back there. Also, are the rear windows stationary? The rear windows should at least be able to slide open. I would imagine the rear passengers would feel somewhat trapped even with the amount of light flooding the cabin. I would hate to spend more money for aftermarket sliding windows. The optional sunroof is not enough to create an airy, comfortable rear seat experience. I like the look of the Defender 90 more than the Defender 110 but I might be forced to go for the 4 door. The Defender's 2 doors are super-cool though. Also, the gas mileage is abysmal. 17mpg isn't acceptable. I don't care how cold it is. What ever happened to the 4 cylinder hybrid that makes 398hp and gets 71mpg? Even then, if it's a plug-in hybrid, how will that help people without a garage? Hopefully the 2023 Defender 90 has the hybrid engine, better rear seats, sliding rear windows, and better quality control. Let's go Land Rover! You can do it! Thank you for this video. Stay awesome.

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

Windows are stationary. I agree, even a vent would be nice. It is cool sitting back there with the roof being glass as well. I think there easiest solution is to put the rear seat on a slide (like discovery sports). A. It would lift the seat up another inch or so B. You could slide it back when you want more leg room. Or slide it forward when more storage is needed. If you passengers are small the rear seat conversation doesn't really need to exist. It would be if larger folks are sitting back there on a regular basis.

[@davidhunternyc1]

@@PerformanceOnWheels The sliding rear seat is a brilliant idea. It would solve a lot of issues. I bet you could do this aftermarket. You’ve got great visibility on your channel and you should make another video showing all your suggestions on how to make the Defender 90 better. Land Rover needs to know. Other car vloggers had their voices heard and manufacturers listened. Much of this could be customized after purchase but it’s just more money. Might as well get it right the first time. The only thing which can’t be exchanged is the engine. Land Rover has been promising us a hybrid for a few years now to no avail.

[@daidavies6210]

How can Replacement of a Windscreen be a Minor detail ?

[@randomguy_2469]

the 110 is big enough for you then

[@rayban8680]

Great comments. I love the Defender 90, but after watching vids on how difficult it is to access the rear seats, so with two elderly parents I think I’d have to go with the 110. Some of these issues these gentlemen are talking about aren’t really that minor, so now I’m having second thoughts. I really hope Land Rover will get these things fixed, because it’s such an awesome vehicle in the way it looks, the off-road capabilities mixed in with the luxury aspect. I wonder if buying a certified one with around 20K miles on it might help to avoid some of these factory issues, because perhaps the initial owner had them and got the majority of them fixed. Still want to wait for the car markets to normalize as much as possible though.

[@billz4795]

so where is the defender 80 ??? i'm waiting !!!!! would love to compare to the Bronco Sport which seems to get very good reviews. i will be in the market

[@davidlythgoe8478]

Bit of an update on my D200 90. Now at 11,250 miles and two and a half years old. No issues and still love it. Possibly replacing it for a new one soon. Oh and if you're considering one try to get on one of the Defender Experience days run by LR. Just done one at Peckforton Castle and really enjoyed it and learned a lot. I'll still leave it for the car to decide what drive mode to select though.

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

We enjoyed our Land Rover experience as well. We documented it in a different video.

[@davidlythgoe8478]

@@PerformanceOnWheels This was a dedicated Defender Experience but I have done some Land Rover Experiences in the past. Well worth it either way.

[@dunmail7744]

As a person who has owned my Series One Land Rover for 55 years and my everyday Range Rover Classic 300TDi for 23 years, both going perfectly, why do you feel the need to change a 2.5 year old vehicle that has only done 11,250 miles, with no issues, for a new one? I am interested in understanding the reasons why people do this.

[@vanghost4life]

Dude,what size are those tires and where did you buy them? I will be taking my Defender in to address the seat,speaker and windshield . So far no problems with my screen. This issues I have had was removing and adjusting the headrest. My Defender 90 is for two people only. I had the dealership pop my backseat out to lay it down flat. Now I can haul more on the inside. This is one of the coolest rides I have owned lots of people giving me thumbs up while driving and when I at Costco for gas people walk over to inquire and take a peek inside. Have you seen the two plates to add to the back of the tailgate if you want to take the rear wheel off. I'm considering taking my wheel off to save on ⛽. Finally mine is Tasmin Blue with the white cap. Thanks for the video. Yes my other vehicle is a Mercedes Sprinter converted to a camper.

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

Thanks for checking in!!! Glad you are enjoying yours. Great vehicles for sure! Tires are factory on ours.

[@tedfragulis]

Great video guys. Subbed.

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

We appreciate that!

[@cjdowndemocrats6746]

We are considering a 130 but we were surprised on cost of ownership with standard maintenance. We were quoted 2800-3800 a year.

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

Seems steep but also does not suprise me. I would of guessed closer to half that. I remember my dealer saying first annual maintenance around $1200. They do fluctuate.

[@hennerdierks6410]

Besides also having the crackling sound and some creaks I think the most annoying thing on my Defender are the anemic backup lights. I love the design of the lights and it was probably one of the first factors I fell in love with the vehicle so quickly. But the position / strength of the backup lights in combination with the position of the backup camera requires me to backup at night by ear only. Thankfully there is an aftermarket kit I got that helped with that but the factory lights are horrible.

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

I have noticed a handful of new cars that have horrid back up lights at night. My new BMW included.

[@davidlythgoe8478]

You're absolutely right. The reversing lights are dismal. A dab on the brakes helps a bit. The sensors certainly help

[@golfinguru11]

Lmao I have the same issue on the speaker next to my ear in my 90. Never bothered to fix it, it comes and goes. Part of the charm really.

[@MotoM1234]

Have had an evoke, LR4, range sport, and Jag F-pace.. have had very minimal problems combined…. Contemplating keeping Jag post-lease or taking delivery of the new defender 110….

[@ryanjcoon1]

Did you end of getting 110?

[@airport4173]

landrover, the PRINCE ANDREW OF THE CAR WORLD.

[@jre617]

What engine is this? Maybe I missed it. I wish someone would explain the 4x4 parameters.

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

This is the p300 the 4cyl. What do you mean the 4wd parameters? It is all time. There is a locking diff that can be engaged through the terrain response. The terrain response setting helps the computer know what your up against and disturbes power and torque accordingly.

[@jre617]

@@PerformanceOnWheels AWD systems are not the same. Many are FWD until slip occurs then can only send up to 50% rear. Subarus do better in low traction because they can send up to 95% front or rear. And what is the default ratio? Some are FWD only, some are 50-50 and performance oriented models might have a RWD bias, like Grand Cherokee SRT defaults to 35-65. So, it makes a difference, and I wonder how the Defender works. Thanks.

[@pale4980]

Finally a real world review. This reliability thing is such overblown bull. Had a Discovery Sport and a Evoque over 6 years. No major issue ever. never got stranded. Small things got fixed with service intervals. Just like any other car. To most Old Defender owner who hate the New Defender - I remember when the Old Defender came on the scene to replace the series 3 and series 3 owners said it's not a real Land Rover because it doesn't have the split windshield anymore. LOL!!! I really like the new design. I feel like Wrangler, Bronco and G look so old already. I know that's part of the allure for some people and like these cars, too, but I think JLR did a great job offering something different and modern, but keeping the boxy shape. The only reason why I haven't bought a New Defender yet is because they dropped the ball big time on the EV version. Personally, I'm done with the ice cars. Rivian picked up the ball big time and created what should have been the new range/defender with the R1S, but they are very pricey to get into. Hoping some other boxy, off roady option will come online soon.

[@pale4980]

@NOYB Googlepuppet lol you Old Defender guys are a crotchety bunch, aren't ya. We'll pick this back up in 20 years, when JLR, then a subsidiary of Tesla, will reveal their Defender 3.0 and all the New Defender guys are gonna complain how that car has nothing to do with the nameplate. Cheers!

[@Valisk]

​@NOYB Googlepuppet Check out the 'real man' here. Bet you've got suzzies on under those jeans.

[@ghettomist1575]

@NOYB Googlepuppet I think you are right. I am impartial. I have never had a Land Rover but am looking for a 1st gen disco. I think the defender had a specific purpose. It was built to be used in harsh conditions, easy to fix, and modifiable. The new one is a good car, but it just doesn’t do what a defender is supposed to. I definitely would not buy such a complicated car for harsh use. Idk Land Rover just isn’t Land Rover anymore.

[@smurfy1543]

Rivians are also… tiny.

[@Tastewithnewdrinks]

Amazing review.

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

Glad you enjoyed it. Thank you for taking the time to comment! We appreciate it!

[@keithfitterer6899]

We had this Land Rover defender,2023 model, back to the dealer for the shifting problem and still not fixed!! Taking it back in next Monday, may 9th, for the same problem! The vehicle shifts from drive to neutral on its own when at a stop sign or red light. Again on its own!

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

Your the second person who has said this... interesting

[@bentyson5168]

Is it shifting into neutral or turning off and shifting into park? There is a powertrain control module update to fix a start / stop 'restart' problem... tell your dealer.

[@keithfitterer6899]

No, it’s not turning off. It’s just shifting from drive to neutral when you stop and it doesn’t happen all of the time. It’s very sporadic when it happens. Thank you for the reply.

[@keithfitterer6899]

Bobby Rahal Land Rover solved our problem with our Land Rover by installing a software patch for the transmission that is a computerized system. Ours was the second trip back. That’s Bobby Rahal of the south hills here in Pittsburgh.

[@Lar308]

I have been driving toyota Landcruisers since 2006 and they are so flawlessly reliable that even the niggly faults you described put me off. Its all very well praising the dealer when the vehicle is under warranty but what happens when it expires. My current Landcruiser is 6 years old this month and not one thing went wrong with it - just regular servicing. Admittedly I have only done 30,000km in those 6 years as I have other vehicles but it was the same with my previous two landcruisers. Id love a defender like that though - although I am thinking the longer one looks just as good now and is more useful. I will test drive one and see what I think.

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

But here you are...... watching a Defender video. Because life is boring without a little mystery or surprise. 😉. We appreciate your comment.

[@mrbryguy5831]

With this market and everything being on back order and this price point. I love the look I’ve seen a few on the road and got interested but I can’t deal with going to a shop more than once a year. I don’t want a daily back and forth I would off-road this thing lol I’ll wait and hopefully they used market makes this worth it later

[@bbatts7222]

I am also concerned with realibality of my new Defender 90. I'll make a final decision on keeping it long term when the warranty runs out in 2026. So far I love it.

[@jrc2858]

2016 defender rear windows open. I am surprised nobody reviews have complained the new defender rear window is fixed

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

This cross my mind...... especially in the 90 when in the back seat.

[@jrc2858]

I totally dislike the new defender 90. In the older generation defender 90, the back potion had bucket seat on each side, so you even remove them and carry a lot of stuff, like for camping. The new defender 90 added rear back passenger seats without window open, who wants to feel clastrophobic by staying there in a long trip?

[@theprada2126]

Still an amazing car the true value in the tech and the way of the off road capability is great

[@johnchae]

dope music, guys.

[@PQV-8898]

My close friend is a Land Rover service manager at a local dealership and she told me to stay away from LR's. She said it's been nothing but nightmares for her. Enough said.

[@anthonyinglis4078]

Still happy to take the wage each month whilst trashing the brand though.

[@volvo_3877]

I don't understand why these people work for car companies but completely trash the brand and hate it with a passion

[@TheAthavanleon]

I love JLR - But still not acceptable for car to go dealership 3 - 5 times after paying 50K...

[@michaellamberti9787]

The key to Land Rover quality understanding is the correlation between the worker, soccer and the pub.

[@roymadethat]

I have a jeep wrangler and it’s having suspension issues and other stuff so looking to get rid of it. Looking to get one of these and also have read the unreliability complaints as well as this video. Kinda rethinking my choice. Would you guys recommend it as an upgrade from a very flawed wrangler? 😅

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

Amazing vehicle. I miss it. There I'd a roll of the dice on experience. Expect the worse and you will enjoy it regardless!

[@roymadethat]

@@PerformanceOnWheels how worse exactly if you don’t mind expanding a bit? FYI (jeep has had new off-roading tires, new brakes, check engine light on thermostat issue, suspension issues. So I’ve pretty much experienced the worse lol and if it’s anything like that……😳

[@roymadethat]

@@PerformanceOnWheels your experience would weight a lot as I actually went yesterday to see two but had second thoughts 😆

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

Did not like it? Why? Thoughts on Bronco? Gx 550?

[@roymadethat]

@@PerformanceOnWheels too many reviews online of unreliability this and that. So I’m caught in the middle. Bronco and Gx 550 are great don’t get me wrong but I’ve never had a Land Rover before. (I have driven a range, one that is 8 years old and not a single problem). Do you think it is a certain year or type of trim, etc, that people are talking about when it comes to reliability or if they add on stuff later like lift kits or off-road wheels when they say that it doesn’t maintain well? Because in my head it’s a luxury brand and they wouldn’t be in business if they have such a rep thus far, especially with security detail for the queen of 🇬🇧

[@ps1hagrid84]

our defender is coming within the next month, p400 110 se. sure hoping we didnt make a mistake with the air suspension. my dad and i highly advised my mom to order as such, but im wondering if that wasnt the right move? then again, there is warranty and the extra comfort.

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

Time will tell

[@StephenFogarty2023]

Great video guys. Really good review. It’s a fantastic vehicle. I think u would hugely regret selling it, if u did do this. Why pay full RRP, or over, and wait a long time for the next vehicle ? In 12 months time, the semi conductor shortage problem should finally be over. 🙏🏻 Once this happens, more supply of vehicles, will finally mean some discounts off RRP will be finally available again.

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

I don't disagree with anything your saying. Not convinced we are going that route yet. Appreciate you checking in.

[@brandonunknown7396]

@@PerformanceOnWheels I drive the 110, never loved a vehicle until now.

[@austinjohnson4599]

Cadillac CTS-V?

[@okunba1]

I'm on my second defender. First 2022 broke down second day I had it. Dealer got me a new one and had to wait another 3 months for my new X to come in. Has 411 miles on it and been in the shop for almost 2 weeks now. Might be looking at Toyota and lexus...

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

Ohhhh! Snap! You have to explain the issues please!?!!

[@okunba1]

@@PerformanceOnWheels Bought my first X and was delivered to me in December. Was out buying my now fiancés ring. I unlocked the car and got in and the instrument cluster said something like "hold the fob beneath the steering wheel...fob not detected". Did that and the car wouldn't start. Long story short, it was towed to the dealer and they had no answers. So they told me they would buy it back at MSRP and got me a new one a few months later. During the time before it completely didnt register the fob - it was turning off in the middle of traffic when we came to a complete standstill. Yes! I understand cars built this day in age turn off and back on (stop/start), but no...the whole car would turn off and we would have to push the start/stop button again to turn on. Sorta concerning when you're in traffic on the highway or at a red light. As for the new car, the over the air updates dont work, and I got in a few weeks ago and "Emergency brake and lane assist not available" was displayed in the instrument cluster. The engine light came on at one point, but disappeared. Anyway, the dealer still has it, and they say that a part in the headlight needed to be replaced. Soooo that's where I am at right now. First time owning a Land Rover...debating what to do.

[@karipintakivi9153]

@@okunba1 I have a 11+ year old Toyota Prado J150 with 260000 km on it. Zero problems, normal service only. I'll get my coat...

[@jh9992]

My neighbor has one with thousands of dollars of aftermarket upgrades. It is a 6 month old truck; already has an electronic failure with one of headlamp clusters not working.

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

W

[@michaelj.kastner5165]

leta hope the engine doesn’t have stripped out bolts

[@timphoto83ec]

I thought this may replace my Disco 4 but the rear storage is terribly cramped. My 110 Defender ......real one......is such a nicer cabin to be in than this new LR. It may get some new LR owners who like the romance of owning a "defender" but long term owners like me (25 years) will look at other brands. What a shame.

[@colins5142]

Hahahaha did you guys record this in lakeville down by airlake airport? Maybe we should do an off-road comparison against my lifted LR3 :)

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

😁. Great idea.

[@colins5142]

@@PerformanceOnWheels I’m right in apple valley so don’t be shy 😉

[@darren5160]

How about trying an Ineos Grenadier or a Rivian for your next car.

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

I absolutely love rivians

[@lbco5229]

Grenadiers are not yet for sale, and may not come to the US.

[@darren5160]

@@PerformanceOnWheels Me too. They have amazing ground clearance, water wading and torque.

[@scandinavia6271]

On the JD Power scoring; I would NEVER use this as a purchase guide for my type of vehicles: 1) Obviously, a Toyo Yaris will have fewer issues off the assembly line than a Defender. Defender is a far more complicated vehicle. Want bullet proof reliability? Buy a Yaris or even better - a bi-cycle..Point is that LR ONLY make complicated 4x4 off road vehicles. 2) “Issues” like the ones you describe is really not a show stopper for me - they will not leave me stranded and will easily be fixed under warranty.

[@claudecharette7985]

Great video,your next vehicle should be the Audi RSQ8,it seems to be an amazing SUV.

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

We had a friend that just had one. We missed the opportunity to check it out.

[@ProjectFairmont]

Why not a BMX X5 M50? Complete apples and oranges. I have the aforementioned vehicle, and my wife a Defender. Couldn’t be more different. The Defender is like a domestic full size SUV in terms of it being more like a truck. The Audi, BMW, Porsche SUVs are like their sporty, luxury sedan brethren, albeit taller, and can tow. The BMW is more refined, but is it better than the Dedender? Nope.

[@rugu6869]

When you compare the price of a First Edition Bronco to the cost of the Defender, it's not reality. I priced up a new Defender 110 vs. the Bronco 4-door (I need the rear seats for the family). As spec'd the 110 was $80K when I got everything I wanted. When I priced the Bronco, it was $59K (loaded Badlands). I'm sorry, but that's a HUGE difference. I am ordering a new Bronco when the orders are opened for the 2023 model year. I LOVED the old Defender, but at this point, if I were really serious about getting a new Defender, I'd wait and get an INEOS Grendadier. As for the reliability issues, JD Power and Associates bases their information from surveys. If more people complain about a particular car, they get dinged in the ratings. It's a "perceived quality" by the person filling out the survey (yes, I work in data analytics). I don't really pay attention to them all that much. My 2000 VW Golf that I owed from new and drove it for 235K miles was fantastic! A 2000 VW was NEVER considered the benchmark of quality, yet, my car was stellar.

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

Good write up! Thanks. I would still argue that a "base" or low optioned Defender would be an overall more enjoyable vehicle than a loaded Bronco. That is if the intent of the vehicle is daily driving. That base or low option would be near that loaded Bronco $60k point. I have filled out a couple of the surveys that are sent out when a new vehicle is purchased. I don't think the way the questions are asked clearly gets an owners true thoughts about the vehicle out. If people are basing vehicle decisions on the consumer report as well as jd power survey outcomes I think a lot of people will be missing out on some vehicles they truly want vs. what they settle for.

[@rugu6869]

@@PerformanceOnWheels I agree 100% regarding the JD survey questions. I have filled out a couple as well and questions are difficult to get a full sense of how the vehicle is actually working or not working with the wording and the canned answers they give you as options. As for the Bronco, it's going to be an everyday driver, however, I don't really need the plushness of a more conventional SUV. My wife has a 2022 X3 and my fun car is a 911. If we're doing LONG hauls, we'll be in one of those two. The kicker for me really is the ability to remove the doors and roof of the Bronco. I had Jeep Wranglers in the past (YJ"s) and just love the freedom of removing everything and having fun. While I do like the Defender, it's just not the best choice for me. I can see the appeal and I do believe they did a very nice job with updating an icon, it just falls a little short as it's not rugged enough for me. I would say LR made the right choice as they need mass sales of vehicles rather than niche.

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

You make perfect sense to me! You also have good choices in cars. Previously owned a rangler as well. Understand and agree with the freedom comment. Appreciate the conversation. Enjoy the day.

[@motodimolotomashoene3321]

Y didn't you record the issues like you are recording this video

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

What?

[@graemepeterson1522]

My Jaguar XF-S is the most reliable car I've owned in 23 years of driving, nothing ever gone wrong with it. It's been more reliable than my previous BMW, Volvo, Toyota and Honda's. Will definitely be buying another 😍😎

[@douglascfrench466]

I love my 110!

[@secretsquirrel2]

Pretty appalling quality, even before considering the price. Most car makers figured it out decades ago and yet Land Rover hasn't.

[@sad_wrangler8515]

Why even bordering with Land Rover, always waited for a LR to buy, but their reliability as bad as 2 decades ago and nowadays one has options like the Bronco which can be driven daily without problems.

[@shinOIchan]

Almost all new car these days, especially brand new model, got issues. It depends on dealer if they are reliable or not and take the crown.

[@levelazn]

great content, can you guys get a diff mic? tons of noise!

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

We bought a new set of mics after this video

[@Olph1]

How is this mistaken for the bronco?

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

🤷

[@milaventurasprod]

TFL had one longer?

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

A 90?

[@milaventurasprod]

@@PerformanceOnWheels hahaha in this case, both longer in time and size! I stand corrected! How do you feel on a long trip tough?

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

In the front seats great! Back seat is for those you don't like.

[@milaventurasprod]

@@PerformanceOnWheels just like any old 4 wheel drive. Sounds good to me!

[@johannoren9977]

Have a 2021 D5, rattling near one of the roof glasses, dealer had to remove the inner roof and guess what - loose bolts around the glass… It feels so not OK when you have paid 75 kEuro

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

Ouch! Yeah when you take the cost into equation it can be frustrating.

[@frankm6110]

yeah and down here for any repairs not covered by warranty its AUD$205 per hour or about USD140per hour of labour. and you have to wonder if all this nonsense in build quality is being deliberately done.

[@thisandthat8686]

Please don’t reuse the music

[@oldcargeezer]

No issues whatsoever with my D250 Commercial after 10,000 miles used all day every day in my business. Base specification with a few options and the steel wheels. Couldn't want for more.

[@Jocoast1]

The Bronco is not even in the same league as the Defender. And no green bubbles. Great job guys.

[@kash2298]

I came for Minnesota license plate that’s it. I love Minnesota.

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

We have quite a few MN plates in our thumbnails.

[@1227_Washington]

Just an fyi. Your mics should be clipped on the outside of your hoodies/jackets. That'll sort the audio issues in future videos.

[@PerformanceOnWheels]

We just picked up some new mics! Appreciate the feedback. The ones in this video had beyond served there purpose.