The Truth About Selling Builds

my stance will never change: if a service itself doesn’t promote predatory tactics and is not selling a scam (false product), and every buyer gets the product as advertised, it is ethical
i removed all “predatory” aspects, added checks to ensure highest build quality, and all 230 vouches were satisfied and content as they got what they paid for, therefore build stat selling after day 3 was ethical by these definitions
audience is the internet there is no control over the age check ever, proof is you literally need to be 18+ to use Paypal or Cashapp (real $$$), so what is most important for me is ensuring what is advertised isn’t evil, which it wasn’t
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[@nogo]

my stance will never change: if a service itself doesn’t promote predatory tactics and is not selling a scam (false product), and every buyer gets the product as advertised, it is ethical i removed all “predatory” aspects, added checks to ensure highest build quality, and all 230 vouches were satisfied and content as they got what they paid for, therefore build stat selling after day 3 was ethical by these definitions audience is the internet there is no control over the age check ever, proof is you literally need to be 18+ to use Paypal or Cashapp (real $$$), so what is most important for me is ensuring what is advertised isn’t evil, which it wasn’t

[@zoenohead6382]

Your right if you give a service in roblox for IRL money it isn’t a scam it’s bming 💀

[@Eyezer7894]

I see what is being said and it's true but it just leads into the buyer getting some entirely generic build everyone uses. I mean sure it's good if you're a dumbass who doesn't do research on anything being made. Similar with the GearUP video, I mean it works but it does a shitty job at best. Could've just done the research the long way and got better ping speeds. This 12 minute video wasn't it (Watch time is about to go crazy)

[@ve6ga]

not an ingame service...loophole not against the rules.@@zoenohead6382

[@ve6ga]

if ur confident about not being a dumbass that doesnt research anything, apply for expert role in dwb and ping @v6ga@@Eyezer7894

[@aquatix5273]

@zoenohead6382 its not a service in roblox its a service over discord in buildmaker website not owned by roblox

[@Kat-fs1oj]

bro is yapping for 11 minutes im playing at 1.75x and hes still taking ages

[@thedeepiscallin]

real

[@someoneontheinternet7772]

he leaked his email and name (unless both are nicknames)

[@raoulking1114]

ur cooked

[@Eyezer7894]

More watch time

[@Utetheisa-Coloptera-Ulgari]

@@Eyezer7894 opposite

[@zoenohead6382]

So at the end of the day bro is a bmer with extra steps 💀

[@solarbotv2789]

well the thing is he didnt bm at all u clearly didnt watch the vid wtf lol

[@thecomet653]

Most comprehensive deepwoken player:

[@bluesapphire9354]

​@@solarbotv2789he was irl trading, horrortm is an idiot and always has been and now bc of him they cant take action because he said "its fine i guess" wake up bro

[@adogewithwifi1652]

@@solarbotv2789ok sure you can say that but he’s literally abusing a loophole to not class it as a black market from a moral point of view this is an even worse black market because atleast with a normal black market you can actually get things

[@Eyezer7894]

Yes but to them it's legally BM'ing

[@user-ik2nh2dt6g]

I can’t believe Nogo is no longer with us. The world has lost a passionate and charismatic figure in the world of online gaming. In honor of Nogo, we celebrate the joy he brought to the gaming community and the enduring impact he left behind the world of deepwoken.

[@mohzarasharaya479]

The answer is, YES. And before all the imbecillic attunementless lft clonetrooping nogo fans try to defend him, do you genuinely find paying 5-10 bucks for the most UNORIGINAL build worth it? Even as a beginner who could easily find many of those for free IN the builder creator discord?

[@Eyezer7894]

The buyer is rightfully scammed

[@izzyakinuc]

Buyer beware. It’s like buying something you know would be bad.

[@Eyezer7894]

@@izzyakinuc Obviously

[@aquatix5273]

There are literal thousands of players who have zero god damn clue how to make actual good builds and make what they want. 70% of the builds sold were custom requests and not clonetrooper

[@mohzarasharaya479]

@@aquatix5273 Not even, also if you watched nogos last stream, he literally admitted to getting builds from others to sell off. Can you guess what those builds were? The same plain attunementless med / azure flames med / heretic sutra dawnwalker curved and so on, peak clonetroopery

[@AshAethuda]

he was NOT cooking with this one

[@marlin4393]

Liar liar pants on fire 🗣🔥🔥🔥

[@Sho-no8ij]

oooh that's gonna hurt🥶🥶🥶🥶

[@thesolo1303]

On a serious note I think this is very stupid I don’t understand the idea of gaining financial gain from most CHILDREN for a Roblox game build? What happen to the time when people like KZbinrs would simply showcase builds and try to mainly make cool builds not necessarily busted builds for chime. And this is simply a waste of time why? Balancing happens regularly so imagine paying 5 dollars or whatever for a build just for it to be gutted in a weeks update I find this is very scummy and unnecessary from first place.

[@morisser]

shut the fuck up lil puss if u have a skill issue buy if not then sit

[@xst0vie786]

Greed.

[@thecomet653]

ok but people like it, u can literally just cry

[@Eyezer7894]

Greed runs within the planet and if the buyer gets scammed it was rightfully so (It was their fault to begin with). There's 1 or 2 things to learned out of this; Don't click with what ya' see "OMG BETTER BUILD ADVISE I NEED" and the loser buying this shit can just get better at the game by playing and using their doo doo turd brain. Anyways this scandel is there and will be there but it is not forced upon everyone to do.

[@boyoisREAL]

If everyone wants something (good build) and only a select few can provide it, then u got a possible business right there

[@phopi0001]

Hey guys its nogo here I bent the rules perfectly so I wouldn't get banned and scammed little kids for deepwoken builds!

[@boyoisREAL]

He didn’t bend anything he just asked the head moderator and he said it’s allowed what 💀

[@bluesapphire9354]

​@@boyoisREALit's irl trading and horrortm should quit already, he's legit hurt the game 10x more than helping

[@boyoisREAL]

@@bluesapphire9354 he told Lancelot to stop, but he didn’t ban it. It’s still allowed from anywhere else

[@OzzyTheCat2419]

"was it a scam?" yes, yes it was, you can literally just make the builds provided 😭😭😭😭😭

[@lexierdiaz6653]

more a exploit that a scam, you can technacly paint your own painting but some people still buy paintings off others

[@fbisurveillance2612]

You get the full product you wasted your money on, its not a scam, just a bad purchase.

[@unlimited3680]

@@fbisurveillance2612people just throw the word scam around its more of a ripoff than anything like buying something off a dropshipper

[@ThebestmanIVGaming]

@@lexierdiaz6653that’s tangible :/ Knowledge in a Lego game is not tangible

[@lexierdiaz6653]

@@ThebestmanIVGaming what about digital images or paying money for services such as a car wash

[@catassistant]

deepwoken 12 year olds after stealing their mothers credit card just to get the most generic attunementless medium shrine of order build

[@danimarshal8230]

True!

[@lolfoxmaster4870]

Watching this video in 0.25x is a torture method not even ancient China would be creative enough to invent.

[@adogewithwifi1652]

What in the meat riding is some of these comments 😭

[@entuire5582]

Kinda hypocritical considering you also made a comment that said “My respect for nogo after this drama 🫡”

[@thesolo1303]

Thank you nogo for telling us if it is a scam.

[@originalnoc]

I'm deeply saddened about hearing the heartbreaking news of Nogo's passing, a loss that was both sudden and unexpected. In a cruel twist of fate, it was a simple TikTok that brought about his untimely demise, leaving us in shock and disbelief, fly high, rest in peace my friend, you will be missed and never forgotten 🕊🥀

[@swiftskylanders0001]

Bro is more down bad than me cheesing chime lowest of the lowest buddy

[@TheeDeleto]

12 minute yap about nothing💀

[@GodspokenYT]

Yo deleto is that actually you from exodygen?

[@jen251]

literally just blackmarket LMAO DIDNT HAVE TO YAP FOR 12MINS

[@ykTris]

So selling knowledge is black marketing?

[@bluesapphire9354]

​@@ykTrisselling digital items for irl money is irl trading

[@justzorua4444]

Its not necessarily a bad idea but trading items in game would be more reasonable and doable than spending cash

[@bluesapphire9354]

yes. trading any ingame stuff for irl money (EVEN BUILDS 😮😮) IS IRL TRADING AND SHOULD BE PUNISHABLE

[@Wohlf]

can we just ban nogo? i respect him for his content i really watched a lot of his videos but what he is doing is insane $$$ for builds, guild coaching and (I ain't sure about this one) black marketing items? do i need to say more this is crazy Personally, I’m a day one Nogo hater This dude has tried like a million times to monetize this game and I resent each attempt Lancelot Guild merch Paid Buildmaking I’d argue even his whole KZbin channel is a grift. The guy got a name for being a top player, but can’t break top 10 now that chime boosting is bannable and elo resets more frequently. He regurgitates samey same videos with the same amount of clickbait. In rogue, I liked the youtubers who actually enjoyed the game yknow? Andehl comes to mind. Anyways yeah sucking $1.5k out of this community should be grounds for permaban and removal of his special privileges. Give them to someone who’ll add to the community rather than leech off of it. skibidi toilet I made $80 off selling builds

[@LyParts]

this comment just feels so nerdy to read, lord.

[@testtest-sl5nx]

it's scummy yes but he didn't black market and stopped when he was told to stop

[@Fxte.]

bro was top 10 like last week what you on?

[@Khanmans]

I mean, if you want to ban him for this, honestly, then the deepwoken builder and trading hubs need to also ban hundreds of other players. Just search for mentions: build In:trades, in Deepwoken Trading Hub, you find thousands of post-trading in-game items for builds. Build trading for items, and money has been a thing since verse one for pve and pvp. Nogo just did it in more of a public way, which is whatever I personally don't see as a big deal. He did it in a poorly regular way, but he just proved he tried to regulate it decently. A few bad eggs do not make the whole batch bad.

[@catassistant]

@@LyPartsnogo robots when they see something they dont like

[@Fxte.]

What coat is that?

[@iplaygames420]

yap

[@bluesapphire9354]

NOOOO HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT TO MY GLORIOUS SPLENDID RADIANT KING NOGORA22😭😭😭 HE CAN DO NO WRONG!!!

[@luck9454]

Only if they used GearUp 😔

[@rinne-shark]

Whats the aura or particles around nogos head?

[@kiyo6087]

Blood forged crown

[@Eyezer7894]

Out of all fairness I do believe the selling of (Build making as in knowledge or even coaching) should be allowed 100%. It should be noted that you the buyer is likely to get what you would recieve or get something that is entirely shit (You're scammed bassically and rightfully so). It's like something that you are able to do but you should take caution in similar to GearUP (I mean literally does this shit even work??? It does a shitty job at best from what was seen) End of the day, it's Roblox, anything could happen so far as scams and botched shit (Also buying coaching or even build advice on Roblox game's is fucking criminally insane) if you deadass buying build advise or even coaching just get fucking better at the fucking game lmao

[@ThatGiraffe550]

hes right

[@therealfrogpies]

preach

[@shoulda1724]

0:06 *yes it is*

[@adogewithwifi1652]

I can’t even comprehend what all these meatriders in comments are thinking

[@DoneThatSeenThat]

Nobody is paying for builds anyway lil bro, builds arent even worth ingame items only children and scammers will be posting builds for payments

[@bluesapphire9354]

lancelot made 1.4k off this shit

[@angad7771]

The virtual landscapes, once painted with Nogo's meticulous strokes, now seem devoid of the vibrant hues that once danced with life. As the waves of nostalgia crash against the shores of memories, the longing for his presence intensifies, creating a vacuum that cannot be filled by any other. His absence is not merely a void in the algorithmic expanse but a palpable emptiness in the hearts of those who cherished the raw emotions and genuine camaraderie he effortlessly shared.

[@kaimatsu.]

So we ignoring Lancelot

[@DoonyDoober]

In my opinion, if you’re paying for a build, you’re just taking the creativity that you could use for yourself and taking the time to actually make a build YOU like instead of buying a random ass metamancer build to reach 1000 elo. Just make your own build, that’s it dawg

[@angad7771]

In the quiet moments, when the glow of screens illuminates dimly lit rooms, the yearning for Nogo's voice, his laughter, and the cadence of his narratives becomes a symphony of collective sorrow. The magic of his words, the artistry of his gameplay, and the authenticity of his interactions are frozen in time, perpetually echoing through the corridors of cyberspace.

[@angad7771]

Yet, even as the ache persists, the legacy of Nogo lives on in the shared memories, the enduring impact, and the way he touched the lives of those who followed him into the digital abyss. He was not merely a content creator; he was a curator of emotions, a guide through the uncharted territories of the DeepWoken world, and a friend who, though absent in the physical sense, remains eternally present in the hearts of those who miss him dearly.

[@thedarling0002]

used to like this youtuber

[@Faroq.]

bro 💀

[@Sincro_1]

Its a scam bro you fr telling me you going to pay more what you buyed the game for ($5 - $10) for trash builds🤔

[@vultdeepwoken]

Trash?

[@Sincro_1]

@@vultdeepwoken from what ive (seen)

[@Sincro_1]

@@vultdeepwoken and hi Vult😀

[@GwwWgw]

​@@vultdeepwokenlil bro should of seen the build supaa bought, if im paying 10$ for that crypt build then i would see myself as a disgrace

[@massunoi]

Do you even know what a scam is? They pay for the product; they get what they paid for. If it’s not “good” then they made a bad purchase. That isn’t a scam, it’s just irresponsible spending.

[@HamidZabi-kr7dt]

I didn't wanna attend a yapping session

[@v01dless5]

I nogo, summon you Yappermohngara!

[@angad7771]

The comment sections, once adorned with a cascade of laughter and gratitude, now stand as silent witnesses to the profound impact Nogo had on each viewer. The sense of loss is a shared sentiment, a communal ache that transcends geographical boundaries and time zones. Friends, followers, and fellow adventurers are bound by the invisible threads of connection forged in the crucible of Nogo's storytelling, and the void left behind is a testament to the depth of the bonds formed in the realm of ones and zeros.

[@phantomgamer9059]

The yap session was soo long I fell asleep so basically from my understanding and translation for the yap they fumbled the bag and switch to a different service

[@Exotic-se5yh]

Ngl paying for a build is crazy "This build got me top 100 chime" like 😂😂😂 No way mfs actually buying builds wtf happened to deep

[@Eqiuxx_Qauntumm]

Personally i think its a little goofy i think that nobody should be buying deepwoken builds BUT i think if someone has the money and really does want to get that extra bit of help they should have the option too and saying that alot of the people in the community are "children" to me is just kind of misleading i know children are impressionable and i know there are some in the deep community but i think even they wouldn't be pressured to buy a build just cause a top 250 made it espically if your boosted i mean i have a friend who splurges on anything he finds intresting enough and even he knew that spending money to buy a deep build is crazy and thats comming from the same guy who bought brawlhalla skins for 10 characters (each of which he said he would main now he doesnt main any of them)

[@catto1021]

can we just ban him already i ion like him

[@NekoNoca]

Greed is the plight of man

[@Sen-vs5dj]

No one is taking time out of there day to make some random or even a friend a build for free.

[@Lolscoobs]

This is just bm with extra steps.

[@eliseymakarov6666]

no way agamatsu's twin scamming roblox kids

[@angad7771]

In the hushed corners of the digital realm, a lingering absence echoes through the hearts of those who once found solace in the ethereal depths of Nogo's creations. Nogo, the luminary of the DeepWoken community, a maestro of the virtual seas, left an indelible mark on the collective spirit of his audience. Each pixel of his videos was infused with passion, and every keystroke resonated with an authenticity that reached far beyond the confines of the screen.

[@adrenaline7686]

Moral of the story, dont buy deepwoken builds, just make one yourself

[@722hearts]

bag is bag

[@bluesapphire9354]

it does not matter what is bannable or not. selling digital things for irl money is generally not good. it's irl trading. if you were doing it for deep items it's completely fine, but when you leverage the fact that you are a famous well known guild to make desperate people give you money that is a problem and i do not understand how neither nogo, the lancelot members or even horrortm can't see that. it is shameful behaviour and should be punished.

[@LandonUhh]

okay

[@sakuyoi]

broke ngas tryna make banks selling deepwoken builder link with mid ass codes 😭😭🙏

[@mxlick2160]

12 min full yap

[@valgotron1416]

To be honest I see this as tutoring there's no problem tbh (other than the over payment😭)

[@Jason.1230]

TLDR: yes (I didn’t watch the video but it was no matter what he says)

[@stirplitinum5047]

he sells knowledge

[@bluesapphire9354]

he sells links...

[@1hourversion389]

do yall wanna buy my 100 charisma 75 intel 100 strenght build

[@Xydite]

king nogora

[@skdksksksjsk]

thank u so much my king for telling us the economic problems of deepwoken

[@tombayol6410]

I hope this ''selling build'' era is not gonna extend to a point where deepwoken will just feel like a game where people makes builds and advertise them only to gain money , in my opinion this kills any fun and legit ''enjoyable'' feeling when trying to cook a build or to get inspiration. I think selling stats is overall pretty unhealthy for the game.

[@KingzClaraYT]

Wallahi nogo u are cooked bro just give up the plan

[@detractor7072]

Me when people dont like me farming money of kids🥺🥺

[@somerandomguy3768]

People really spend money on a build that someone will make in 10 mins is crazy im in the wrong market

[@xicro2533]

ngl i dont even care if its bannable or unhetical i just find funny asf the titles some of you were using to advertise the builds 😂

[@izzgy1083]

Yes it is nogo

[@anaverageheir2836]

Ngl I would have participated too.

[@adogewithwifi1652]

My respect for nogo after this drama 🫡

[@_edited_]

10 dollars for a personalized build is overpay to the extreme, builds should be worth notes. Or at least a dollar if we're talking about reducing it from 10 dollars.

[@ve6ga]

so u want us to waste 10+ mins of our time for a dollar? when there are hundreds of people asking for builds 🤔🤔 slavework.

[@beefgaming5168]

hi world just came here to say the the dislike ratio is higher than the like ratio by over half, take that information as you will

[@IzzyPlayzGames.]

Amma hold it a buck 0:40 selling all thoughts in game items is 100% black marketing

[@coems255]

honestly if they wouldnt have shut it down so soon nogo coulda polished it and i coulda been a great thing

[@dojiio]

Hell naww no amount of polish is worth buying a DEEPWOKEN build. Theres alot of free build vids on KZbin

[@boyoisREAL]

@@dojiio You don’t only pay for the stats. You pay for the time and attention of a players experienced enough to answer all your questions and guide you thru the build making. Many deep players want their questions answered

[@adogewithwifi1652]

What in the meatriding

[@that551]

​@@dojiioevery single build on KZbin is absolutely garbage, poor optimisation and talent picks

[@derp__king6144]

@@that551 Thats a bold claim to make

[@RehipcLlib]

If you bad of pvp you are bad none build will save you

[@bluesapphire9354]

dont worry, you can buy coaching from lancelot ☝️🤓

[@lolnah1992]

​@@bluesapphire9354question for people who bought Lancelot coaching, does it actually help or is it a scam

[@doctorvoid2998]

12 minute YAP about NOTHING bro

[@ThebestmanIVGaming]

Bros expecting us to pay more than the actual game price for ONE build Kinda crazy Some builds are the same prices as a last wind Like wtf has this community gone to It’s gone down the drains

[@derekzhao1793]

Nogo is such a good person long live our glorious king.

[@derekzhao1793]

I agree

[@derekzhao1793]

I think he is a glorious king

[@derekzhao1793]

he is the greatest nogo on the face of the earth

[@wearelivingart4584]

what the glaze you replied to your own comment

[@derekzhao1793]

@@wearelivingart4584 wdym he is the best deepwoken player of all of time

[@emillic7976]

someone summarise it pls this is so much yapping

[@LeafsLie]

he says its not a scam and he followed the rules, but bros team was raking in 500 usd per day according to him 💀

[@vultdeepwoken]

@@LeafsLie There was so many clients overcourse the money added up.

[@emillic7976]

@@LeafsLie if its srsly about selling just mere deepwoken builder stats, this shit only works in NA LOL, nobody gonna pay for this in EU, mfs in NA dumb asf

[@bluesapphire9354]

tldr: "its not a scam bc i asked daddy horrortm and since hes stupid he said i could do this so no ban haha suck it mods and anyone who payed me lol xd"

[@bluesapphire9354]

​@@vultdeepwokenof course*

[@Zetsu180]

everyone overeacted ab the whole situation aint nun wrong with selling builds lol

[@OrdanKarris]

People in deep comunity laugh at me when i tell em i have 22, but atleast i got a job 💀 nogo please, don't become a piece of shit and don't do this kind of shit again, a job not only its ofc harder, but pays better and atleast you got something to do rather than being on a chair 24/7

[@Eyezer7894]

1 video with GearUP and the 2nd video with build selling and coaching, one-two many. Well people are probably learning 1 lesson or 2 from these videos (Someone has learned a lesson)

[@niveriancer7292]

@@Eyezer7894 They did not, the things they teach could be learnt by playing the game, and tbh, a build its whatever YOU want it to be, it may be better, it may be worse, but its not like stats are locked behind someone or something, anyone can do those builds so yeah, yes its a scam and i've seen you everywhere, stop meatriding nogo

[@Eyezer7894]

@@niveriancer7292 You can call me "meatrider" or whatever the fuck you wanna call me. Acknowledge this, Nogo shamelessly fucking posting some of the shittiest fucking scams to his viewers.

[@vociferous7008]

everyones just mad you did it before them xD

[@quiltgaming783]

I see

[@Kumari103]

nogo im gonna be real, this is bming with extra steps. on top of that your extorting kids mostly 14-16 for free money for things they could learn from youtubers like aga or nano

[@unlimited3680]

Bro do you know ‘extortion’ means 😭😭😭

[@AsianXDDD]

[@Abs0lute_Trash]

stop tryna defend the fact that you scammed kids

[@uzumaki-fox3603]

you doing too much to make it right you in that grey area that is all depending on how a mod sees it.

[@milo_yt6925]

Bro let's be real nogo, this gave ur guild a bad rep cos like selling build is a stretch first of all. Secondly u shut it down, thank God but like the builds will not increase their skill yk ppl say build vs build it's deadass skill vs skill

[@frostythesnowguy5756]

your like dislike ratio is crazy

[@Punk_Muffin]

his cc role should be removed at least he did this to make money no other reason u wanna coach or help the dw community fine but dont charge kids for it and act like ur doing some big favor

[@Eyezer7894]

Removing his CC ain't doing shit, Nogo will still be able to get watchtime and views just by KZbin and using tags (For you, Deepwoken, Deepwoken builds). It would be just as effective if his community was loyal viewers

[@Punk_Muffin]

@@Eyezer7894if banning him is too much punishment then they should at least do this. he wouldnt have access to the cc ps and that would be a big loss for him

[@Eyezer7894]

@@Punk_Muffin At this point just ban him. Marketed shitty things towards his fanbase/viewers. 1. GearUP (It doesn't work) letalone most software doesn't do shit to upgrade your connections or even computer. 2.Fucking build advice and coaching could lead into scamming for the young children who play the game.

[@xst0vie786]

just say it is scam under 10 secs not the whole ass 11 mins yapping for NOTHING

[@24arrian71]

Nogo I unsubbed because I think your a bad person

[@OzzyTheCat2419]

I also suggest you stop doing this (not for your reputation is already cooked beyond belief with this so who cares atm) for the game's sake if roblox mods saw this being allowed by mods and people who 'run' the game itself, they could easily misinterpret it and maybe get the game cooked because 'death by association' so, very stupid thing to do 😭😭😭

[@ve6ga]

🗣️🗣️

[@batslc]

I made a video on this before but imo, it's not a scam, nor is it BM, like I said before their providing exactly what they stated which was a Godseeker build. Though if it's worth it or not, Idk, I don't think anyone should be buying Deepwoken Builds but that doesn't change the fact that this isn't against any rules and no one should be banned

[@ThebestmanIVGaming]

Since the devs said it’s not bannable, it shouldn’t be bannable, But what it does prove is scummy behavior Builds the same price that Deepwoken is for

[@filmmma]

nano should come back, u literally bm for free and not get banned whats goin on

[@thecomet653]

Most comprehensive deepwoken player

[@filmmma]

@@thecomet653 Self intro bud

[@And7_]

naw 😂

[@Brzy_Cxy]

You guys were farming money off kids like it was stardew valley doesn't matter if its within the rules you still took money from kids. also the YAPP in this video god damn, I had to watch in 2x speed.

[@deepferris.]

yip yap stop trying to justify it

[@dannynguyen7607]

Hi

[@sipi5539]

whether or not it's moral or bannable this was just corny bro 😭stop tryna monetize deep like it's a minecraft pvp server

[@adictedbucci5549]

Get a job😂

[@jahni5285]

Sus