The TRUTH about SHEPPERTON DESIGN STUDIOS (SDS) Stormtrooper armour

An HONEST, UNBIASED and INFORMED opinion on the Stormtrooper armour supplied by Shepperton Design Studios (SDS) / originalstormtroper.com
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[@thx113875]

He’s actually stated several years ago on his website that the only original mould that exists is for the helmet. He said the body moulds don’t exist anymore. But yes that is on his site.

[@louisGauto]

other people have the molds made from the promotional touring suits

[@spitfiremark1a768]

I read about the court case brought by Lucas Film. Initially thinking it was the big American Vs the little guy. It was the opposite. He was making false claims about his work. Taking credit for other peoples designs and sculpting. Shame on him for duping so many fans.

[@TK-ff5kc]

I bought one of the first helmets based on what we were being told about "original" molds and some early pictures. Once these started showing up it was plainly obvious in our opinion "the die hard stormtrooper fanatics on the RPF" that we were being lied to. In our opinions the back of the helmet swoop wasn't even close to accurate and the ears had been resculpted and we're noticeably longer to compensate. Also none of the tell tale bumps and flaws in the original pulls were present.

[@RichieStormtrooper]

Definitely. The SDS helmets are even assembled weirdly.

[@OscarMicMusic]

i had one too. They are more warped than ANH helmets as well

[@gospyro]

Nice video! I just wish it had been made about 10 years ago when I, sadly, bought a set of SDS.

[@adrianrosenlund-hudson8789]

This is a really valuable video. I too nearly bought from this website. What stopped me was how simply wrong the armour looks on the model/mannequin, before i even gained any knowledge of Stormtroopers. The greaves look too short, and the plates look like they’ve been thrown on, for example. Then i found FISD...and learned...

[@RichieStormtrooper]

Excellent, man! Glad you found the forum in time too. Thanks for the feedback.

[@steveeddie76]

Could this be because the model is to tall for this armour ??

[@steveeddie76]

To be honest the best way to sell this type of armour is to use the right height model etc etc if ths model 6'3 then yes it looks completely wrong just saying there needs yo be a vid on this side by side of the two types or 4 .would be interesting if someone done a vid on this ,pick 4 companies and review the armour of the 4 together.😁😬🤙

[@RichieStormtrooper]

I've seen this in person plenty of times and it's much smaller than the original suits and just totally off in many areas.

[@mikeclamp4125]

@@RichieStormtrooper where can I buy a urate armour without having to make it my self

[@kirksanders883]

I took a hiatus from this hobby back about the time you started. I do remember the bells being the most accurate that I'd seen with the curved swoosh just like the ANH. I thought I'd heard he probably had something on the bells from the original, but I've missed the last 10 years in this hobby.

[@RD1138]

Sooooooooooo if not Sheppertons where else can I get accurate Storm trooper armor?

[@finnickrinzler8907]

He basically got hired because he owned a vac-forming machine. He may have had some slight input into the how the armor should be trimmed or assembled but he didn't sit there and draw out the design. He's a fraud.

[@oscarwright8864]

My grandpa designed the original helemet, him and Andrew were good friends and still are, I have two helmets signed by both, my grandpa is nick/Julian Pemberton

[@stfo4031]

​@@oscarwright8864 Can I have an autograph from your grandpa?😃

[@historex54tamiya]

SDS has NO linage as you say, and a great vid. I started in mid 90s, owned most of all helmets including Fallano, the first cast of original. Sds just copied on his history of vac forming, that’s all

[@RichieStormtrooper]

Thanks for the feedback and the confirmation. This stuff is on Amazon now and so many people are opting for the convenient option.

[@hisunholiness146]

I've been wanting to buy a stormtrooper armour for ages and im looking at getting the one from jedirobes, I saw Shepperton one and close to changing my mind and getting that one, ive changed my mind now

[@SubduedBeast]

Don’t get Jedi robes they’re even worse!!

[@SubduedBeast]

If you’re wanting armor visit www.whitearmor.net and visit their vetted sellers list

[@MyZippy13]

Didn’t he just pull the Helmets off someone’s mould. And he pulled the Hero helmets too after changing the stunt helmet?

[@thx113875]

No. He only has the original mould for the helmet.

[@melpate626]

well if not this place then where is the best place to buy a good quality suit??????

[@tk-3098]

Well to be honest if you see them in real there pritty damm close and some parts are better than the anovos tk. The main problem is that some parts aren’t assembled the right way. But with a few chances it’s 501st approve. So for the prise of a sds battel spec tk it’s more than good enough if you reassemble some parts.

[@charlesedison1310]

And twice the price. Bargain!

[@fishingwithpabs8391]

What would you recommend then?

[@0waffel0]

RS Propmasters or CFO (Cast From Original) only legit options for lineage pieces.

[@SanitysVoid]

Can you review the Authentic Props armor from Canada?

[@DrMacabre]

Are you referring to the Armor FX armor from the 90's?

[@TheMadmichel]

So where can I get a proper stormtrooper suit?

[@stuartdavies10]

rs propmasters in the UK

[@TheMadmichel]

@@stuartdavies10 lol already did got everything bought a selfbuild kit and all the trimmings

[@stuartdavies10]

@@TheMadmichel 😃

[@TheMadmichel]

@@stuartdavies10 yes? Lol

[@dandickenson3680]

Great article, Liz was my mother

[@MadDragon-lb7qg]

Ainsworth has claimed for YEARS he designed the original Stormtrooper.....he didn't! The late Liz Moore did! Brian Muir has been defending Liz's credit for over 40 years, and even Lucasfilm PRIOR to being bought by Disney has been trying to stop Ainsworth selling Stormie gear as he doesn't have the licence to. Now you have given us concrete proof......don't buy this crap!

[@StudioSmith]

did he though? i read on the site and it merely says he ¨created¨ the armor, i interpret it as he physically created it, not designed it.

[@MadDragon-lb7qg]

@@StudioSmith Ive seen him on another video,ages back, sculpting a Stormie Helmet from scratch, in essence trying to confirm that it's his design. If he wanted to be truthful, it should read that he made the suits from molds of sculpts made by Liz...and he doesn't!

[@stuartdavies10]

@@StudioSmith YES!!,...he did!!!!. Liz Moore the helmet,Brian Muir the body armour, end of story.

[@oscarwright8864]

@@stuartdavies10 my grandpa created the original mould for the stormtrooper helmet, he was a scenic sculptor at the time working at shepperton studios. His mould was not the first or last but it was the first that resembles current day stormtrooper helmets (the mouth piece was sculpted after the ash tray from one of his morris cars). At the time Andrew was making kayaks with his vac former and my grandpa, approached him with the idea of vac forming helmets. My grandpa never liked the idea of the starwars films and didn’t watch a single one of them, never pursuing the publicity like Andrew did. He has pictures of him and gorge, and as a bonus I got to work with Andrew for some work experience, the helmets and armour prices are rough but Andrew gets around that by saying they are movie accurate 😂, andrews a nice guy but maybe a bit misleading on his website

[@dandickenson3680]

Sorry Oscar your grandfather did not design the helmets…I would be very happy to meet him and get his story, I find it strange he has never gone on camera or website claiming to…

[@donovanhalstead2724]

Who the hell cares? It's a MOVIE... Nothing is real. All of these suits were hand made and all of them were weird and had individual strange and unique pieces. Some of the pieces were reported as being flexible as well and not made from the original material from the rest of the suit. You can see in scenes where the troopers were shot from the rear that some of the calf pieces were taped together with white gaffer's tape and some were flexible with others split open in the rear as the actor walked. There are also the original suits that were made and used as the sand trooper, the general trooper suit, and the hero suits that were constructed slightly differently. There is no ONE accurate suite. It's about having fun. This kind of arrogance is what led me to resign my 501 membership. Sod off.

[@charlesedison1310]

Because it’s intentionally misleading. If SDS marketed their kit as “unoriginal copy of a copy” I’m sure no one would care, but it also wouldn’t sell. SDS are using false advertising to dupe people into believing that they are buying something with direct screen lineage to the original film. Buying armour online is an absolute minefield and extremely daunting for newcomers, Richie is 100% doing the right thing here by bringing it to people’s attention.

[@stuartdavies10]

The point of this argument isn't really about one suit compared to another,most of the general public would just see a "stormtrooper" and would be totally oblivious to the movie accuracy or lack thereof and rightly so,if movie accuracy isn't a major factor then don't join the 501st in the first place,it's not like they hide what they're about. This argument is about an individual falsely claiming he actually designed the pieces,promoting the fact that he did design them and then making a living by selling something that was designed by someone else. Who the hell cares?....well Brian Muir cares and the family of the late Liz Moore care and those with a moral and ethical code do.

[@germaniack9522]

And what's your opinion about the Stormtrooper Helmets from Shepperton ?

[@h.l.westlake2587]

Excellent Your keen eye for detail and authentication are similar to mine. Any idea how to obtain a 100% authentic Trooper Suit/gear and helmet etc? Great work H.L.

[@stuartdavies10]

rs propmasters in the UK

[@ots8693]

I have this suit for cosplay reasons. Definitely not the best thing in the world thanks to watching your vids but my main problem with it is not overall how the suit is put together for the main pieces of the body armor (although I am a little short to be in it. Go figure.) It's the GOD AWFUL way they use to attach the belt on. Small edit: I did not pay a thousand for it, got it cheaper on Amazon for like 400 quid. Had to send the first suit I got back cause the front stomach plate was missing. Which was definitely an annoyance.

[@jangolis]

if you got it on amazon then its not the one from the website

[@locopoko6781]

i think you forgot the legs also

[@AntonioCT-7997]

Where can u get propper armor? Clone trooper or stormtrooper

[@1Loftwing1]

There hasn’t been any live action clone troopers until very very recently so there isn’t any “official” ones as of this minute

[@stuartdavies10]

Go to rs propmasters in the UK for stormtrooper armour, the real deal.

[@gabrielebernabiniPB]

Even the e11 blaster shepperton design is not well made . I bought and etsy 3d printed one and it’s way better

[@Rage_TM]

Ainsworth likes to claim a lot, and the fact that he gets away with it is beyond me. Saying he has the facts and evidence to prove something that has been proven to be the truth. It’s like he lives in his own world, believing that he created from hand the molds for the armor and helmet when there’s evidence of who made and designed it, and who was the original test fitter. I feel bad for anyone who could be that delusional and anyone who believes in his crazed fantasy. Thanks Richie for the videos, I’ll enjoy my RS set with pride.

[@C_Scorer_FX]

So do they actually make and use the original molds

[@RichieStormtrooper]

No. The marketing seems to me to be deliberately misleading.

[@andyodab]

No. The original moulds were sent back to Lucasfilm. SDS is a charlatan.

[@olivier3847]

@@andyodab even the helmet moulds?

[@Alexander-jd4ui]

Hi Richie. I have the opportunity to get a Shepperton Stormtrooper for 350 Dollars. Should I buy it?

[@RichieStormtrooper]

I personally wouldn't. It's a good price compared to the original price but you have to ask yourself whether you'll be satisfied with it or not. Join the FISD forum at whitearmor.net and ask for opinions on there. If you are serious about getting a really great kit, save your money and get something better.

[@Alexander-jd4ui]

@@RichieStormtrooper All right. Thank you:) Really helps a lot. I appreciate it👍

[@Richard-pl6pv]

Maybe you should visit andrews workshop which he happily lets you . Your see alot of evidence to prove you wrong . I dont own a suit from anyone but I think being part of 501st your following lucas standards of a suit . So why would they win an out of court settlement from lucas film if wasnt the original suit . Andrew will tell you himself certain parts have been changed over the years as over the years better ways to keep armour from falling off as your know this was a problem in the making of the first movie . So as a 501st member your not going to support his suits .

[@RichieStormtrooper]

You are terribly misinformed, sorry. In accordance with the court judgement replica prop makers are allowed to sell their suits IN THE UK because the design was deemed an industrial design and thus not/no longer covered by the respective copyright for sculptures. In the USA Lucasfilm still holds copyright. But that's not really my point. Ainsworth sells something and claims (or at least strongly implies) that it is made from the original moulds. Spend two minutes comparing (or just bother to watch this video!) and it's clear to anyone that this is nonsense.

[@cableguydan]

Sadly, Richard, you appear to have been duped by the SDS machine. I HAVE visited AA’s studio back around 2005 and 2007, before I realised what was actually going on. That doesn’t make his kits accurate. The proof is in the finished product - AA’s armour and helmets do not look like the original suits. Just out the two side by side. I’m afraid it’s as simple as that.

[@olivier3847]

@@cableguydan i thought at least the helmet moulds were original

[@stuartdavies10]

Richie's answer about the legalities of the court case and it's outcome is correct,any actual research into this would tell you the same!!!, the point of it is that this individual makes claims that are false and the 501st connection has absolutely nothing to do with it,these events occurred before the 501st even existed!. Liz Moore designed the helmet and Brian Muir the body armour,this is irrefutable as any real research into the subject would tell you.

[@dandickenson3680]

He also can’t visit America as he had judgement against him for several million