The Truth about Switching to a Projector! [120” 4K Laser Ultra Short Throw]

LG HU915Q CineBeam Laser 4K Ultra Short Throw Projector Setup & Review - is this 120-inch 4K HDR MONSTER better than my OLED TV?
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[@angeldeschain0]

My experiences is: the wow factor is there for the "first time", but after minutes/hours you realize that TV is better in every aspect except in size.

[@billschannel1116]

After years of living in a house with a large (for a TV) modern OLED and modern projectors I can tell you that everyone in the house as well as visitors prefer the projector. That includes the owner of the TV.

[@colors6692]

@@billschannel1116 Sure they did🤦🏿‍♀

[@angeldeschain0]

@@billschannel1116 totally relatable up to a certain point. When people see the 100 inch 4k screen they say wow. 'That's amazing', specially with animated movies. I don't speak my mind to tell them otherwise, I know that I really prefer the OLED for gaming and watching dark scenes. There's no comparison... Last season of Stranger Things I skipped the project and the same goes for the next Game of thrones. Greetings

[@dllemm]

@@billschannel1116 at least with my 1080p projector, my LED TV is significantly sharper. Is this not the case with 4k projectors? Are they equally sharp? Also reducing contrast once you're used to OLED is super difficult. It's next generation contrast.

[@Thetechchap]

Agreed

[@pinoytechdad]

Clicked the product link, and I must admit, that has been the quickest time I've closed a tab after seeing its price. But it's definitely gorgeous though.

[@theknightofdoom260]

How much? it is unavailable. Watched more fuck me closed the video.

[@chrishayes5755]

it's really NOT gorgeous. the color looks blown out and faded. switch between the tv and the projector and note the difference in quality.

[@MoMartz09]

I truly appreciate reviews like this. Honest reviews.

[@us3531mc]

Wow, the projector game has really come up in the past 10 years. Had this set up first with my home computer windows 7 and bumping image up with crossfired cpu and graphics card ( both AMD) also a tv tuner card. Did this for 5 years. Was just difficult to rearrange the room and then after a bit it required an tv turner card that had to be authorized by cable company. Eventually went to a 55" tv.

[@AtlantaGuns]

Love my projector with 120” screen got it right after the pandemic hit and it’s been a life changing experience. I sit about 10 feet from it and the center point of the screen is almost at my eye level. The immersion is just unreal watching movies and tv shows. Don’t need to go to the movies anymore. My next upgrade will probably be something triple laser UST with 150” ALR PET Crystal screen. Thx for showing us this setup. 👍

[@billschannel1116]

I enjoyed going to the theater UNTIL I got a projector. Now when I go the seats are less comfortable, the screen is smaller (in ratio), and the food is worse. And of course the cost. The COVID is the cherry on top of the theater experience.

[@justinbeamon6624]

You should check out the Formovie Theater. Supposedly the best UST especially for 3k

[@AtlantaGuns]

@@justinbeamon6624 I saw that review on projector website I’ll need to check it out in person. Thanks!

[@mnewm21]

@@billschannel1116 haha I only go to cinema now for comedy and horror movies as it is still fun to laugh and scream with 100s of other people! Blockbusters, well that's what my home theatre is for!

[@YanethChavarria-bn8sx]

If I sit from a distance of about 3 meters (almost 3 ft) would I be able to watch the full picture without moving the eyes? thinking about switching to the hisense px1 pro but the room where I want to instll it isnt so big.Thanks for your help.

[@AmitKumar-hf6ie]

This is good if you have a job which offers regular transfers. Moving a TV is always a hassle. It may break sometimes. Great option when you move too much.

[@billschannel1116]

Also, before she died recently, my mom and I spent a lot of time in hospital rooms or the hotel rooms connected to the hospital. She had macular degeneration and taking the projector was awesome. Can you imagine the difference between a terrible hotel/hospital TV and a high quality ultra short throw? Especially for someone with terrible eye sight? Like you said, they are really great for moving around. We've even done outdoor stuff for kids.

[@Hypagen]

I got my first projector and 120" big screen a few months before covid and the lockdowns...absolute perfect timing for sitting in watching movies plus a renewed interest in gaming. I bought steering wheel/pedals/shifter and car games are superb on the big screen. I started out just stereo...then went 5.1...then went 7.1. I've heard some good 7.1 movies but the best 7.1 I've ever heard was in the computer games on PC...very immersive! I'm only 1080p with my current setup but I think 4k would have to be my next upgrade. Thanks for the video. 🤓

[@vanessamonster5038]

I have the projector. Not into gaming, but for movies it is awesome. You can get special paint for a screen. The nice thing is that when you're not watching, it is just a blank wall instead of an eyesore. Getting good sound is key to the experience.

[@Cid_Hi]

how about energy consuming?

[@johnomegas]

I recently changed from a 43" TV to a 100" projector. In games its just okay due to contrast in the day (I have a very sunny living room), but movies look exceptional at night! I am a contect consumer with casual gaming and I am 100% satisfied with the change. Hope you like it for future as well.

[@billschannel1116]

Immersion is incredible on a projector. When I race or fly it feels great. And strategy war games will make you feel like your cheating and yearning for 8k. 😀

[@raulitrump460]

samsung makes 98 inch tv no need to sacrifice picture quality

[@billschannel1116]

@@raulitrump460 For me. I prefer larger than 100" pictures. And depending on what projector technology you go with vs what TV technology you go with the cost of the projector might be more or might be less.

[@matthasl4164]

Blackout curtains for the day

[@francescoXII]

@@Optimus514 that depends of how large is the place you’re installing it. 140” you’ll need at least 4 meters from the screen… most of Uk homes doesn’t have such large spaces unfortunately…

[@thedayofquicksilver6930]

I've had a 120" projector setup since 2009. Pro tips: make sure the screen's center is parallel to eye view from the couch, and 9'-12' is the optimal viewing distance. Black diamond screens make the image pop, even if you take the screen out in the sun, it will still look like you're looking at a regular TV. The black diamond also drastically increases contrast. Lastly, Epson makes the best projectors, at a competitive price, and has the capability to convert ALL 2D content into 3D.

[@phillylarkin.s1930]

Oled over projector all day . projector screens and dull and dark

[@thedayofquicksilver6930]

@@phillylarkin.s1930 you obviously have never had one. Mine is super bright, and doesn't wash out in light because of the type of screen I have. OLED is overrated, in my opinion, and projectors have no worries of burn-in.

[@thedayofquicksilver6930]

@@phillylarkin.s1930 P.S. you can't watch football, or any content, in 3D on an OLED.😛

[@billschannel1116]

@@thedayofquicksilver6930 I have my projector in the brightest room of the house (The living room) with no screen and it's usually in use during all of the daytime hours and a good portion of the night as well. If you time it right, there's even a time when sun directly hits the picture. My picture isn't dull nor dark.

[@pathway1]

@The Day of QuickSilver What is your whole projector setup? I'd like to try it

[@gamingwookie802]

As someone who lives in a pretty small apartment (and does not care too much about the finer details of the image), the projector absolutely wins out because it can provide an extra large screen without taking up so much space or requiring much setup. I bought the Anker Nebula Capusle II, a 720p projector for 600 USD a year ago and I've really enjoyed using it for both watching films and playing cinematic games that don't require split-second precision (like Red Dead Redemption or Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice). The projector is just the size of a beer can too (it's even shaped like one), and while it isn't a short-throw I can still get a huge image within a 2-meter range. Since I just project it directly on my wall with the blinds closed, the only extra gear I need are a couple of books to prop it up on my desk.

[@rob7297]

So if you were to imagine using the nebula in a 440 square foot garage with 0 light would it be recommended

[@richardloh8260]

How can it be ? Current display are paper thin and certainly do not take up the same much bigger footprint 🤔

[@CesarPeron]

If you live in such a small apartment, you can hardly afford to spend $7,000 on that 😅

[@zachryder3150]

This is pure cope. Any 720p projector in a room that is not dedicated to keeping out all light, with the seating probably being too close if it covered most of a wall would've looked like absolute dogshit. You made the choice to spend your money on a projector instead of a TV, live with it, but don't convince yourself you made the perfect decision.

[@scottfranco1962]

Its sweet. I have had a 120" wide projector setup since 2000 (yes, really). I changed out projectors once since then, still waiting on the 4k projectors. The ceiling mount is not a big deal if you know how, and if people are standing in the projector beam, they are usually blocking the screen as well. The daylight viewing got much better with the second generation projector, but (as you say), its much better with the curtains drawn, and I have done a lot to shut out light in that room (entry doors, blackout curtains, etc). I'm waiting for a true LCD solution for 4k, perhaps in vain! They are out there, but the cost is in low earth orbit.

[@123simenHP]

I bought a projector Xgimi Horizon Pro (120") 4 months ago where I have my 3060ti connected to it and I love it. It's not the best in the daytime, but for me, it's more than usable, at night though it's an insane experience. It almost feels like having a cinema at home.

[@bricaaron3978]

Why in the world aren't you guys buying blackout cloth? Blackout cloth is white---you can either seal off a window and rely on interior lights, or use a roller so that you can pull it down over the window, and then keep it tight against the wall with magnets to minimize light seepage. I got tired of having to wait until nighttime in order to play immersive games or watch movies. This should be done in any room used for movies or immersive gaming that has a window(s), whether one is using projection or a direct-view display.

[@Resosaur]

Great overview. The TLDR is if you care foremost about screen size, get a projector. But if image quality is your chief priority, then you shouldn't be looking at a projector anyway, unless $ is no object and you can spring for the best of the best. To achieve IQ approaching that of LG's flagship OLEDs, you'd need to spend between $30-50k on a top-flight projector. And even then, the black levels still won't be absolute black in order to achieve the (theoretically) infinite CR of the best OLEDs, and the response time (even with Game Mode active) will be higher than that of the best OLEDs. The average Joe may not be able to discern meaningful differences between the two display types, and ultimately may be over-wowed by the sheer size advantage of a front projection system, but if you're all about picture quality, the latest and greatest OLEDs offer the best bang for the buck as of 2022.

[@twoknife]

And then there is the fact that TVs just keep getting bigger. 97-inch OLEDs are just around the corner.

[@medavid16]

I won’t say how much I spent but I did spend quite a bit on a triple laser Samsung 4k HDR, with all the bells and whistles for screen speaker etc. it still does not compete with any of the top OLED tv. Still has that “washed out” look. For cinema/theater experience , then yes projector is the way to go. Casual news/cartoon/gaming, just get a TV for the same amount of money, you’ll be a lot happier. Agree with OP

[@Resosaur]

@@medavid16 Right, and impressions are often shaped by what you had before. Reducing contrast once your eyes are used to OLED e.g. can be a difficult transition.

[@bricaaron3978]

@@medavid16 *"Still has that “washed out” look."* I hope you're not viewing it in a lighted environment... I own CRTs and an LG OLED, and am very particular about image quality, but I would never describe my old W1070 as having a "washed out" look. Relatively, the constrast ratio and black level don't compete with CRT or OLED, but personally I would reserve the term 'washed out' to refer to an image that appears that way on its own merit, rather than just relative to another display.

[@mocheen4837]

I am fine with the 77” oled.

[@JFLTX]

Contrast is very important to me. Hard to step away from that once you get an OLED. Mini LED TVs are also good options.

[@ericmharper]

I have a 70" LG 4K tv in my living room but a projector in my bedroom, it's currently on its last leg but offers 120" at 1080p and the built-in speakers are incredible and it was only $200 so we are looking to upgrade soon and you've sold me on this UST from LG since I am already familiar w/ the LGOS and apps. Definitely learned a lot about the screen type so I am going to have to get one of those as well. Might take a couple months to save up lol but this is a dream setup. Great video, very informative, was also cool to see someone in the UK play an NBA game haha

[@Mide319]

“77 inches, i know what you’re thinking, it’s too small” No one was thinking about that 😅

[@billschannel1116]

I was, I always do whenever TVs come up. I've been in a house with a 14' projector and a large OLED. When we invite people to watch movies we always give them a choice after a demo of each. To this day exactly 0% of the people chose the TV. Not only that but the owner of the TV stopped using it.

[@dllemm]

83" OLED Tvs do exist, and some cheap large TVs too. So some were thinking it. 65" has been around for decades, many have since moved up to 70/75/77/83/85/etc.

[@Thetechchap]

😜

[@theyeshhh]

@@Thetechchap yeah, I thought that it was a 65 inch TV but was surprised when you told that it was a 77" G1, maybe it was due to the large white space on the top.

[@rat47]

That’s not a 77”

[@danw3735]

You were spot on when you said everything feels like an event. I loved my old LG 1080p projector until it died. I might get another one, just not this expensive.

[@Amor_fati.Memento_Mori]

How long can I expect one to last?

[@zoopa9988]

@@Amor_fati.Memento_Mori Usually, you can simply look for the lifespan of the projector or its light source in the specifications section before making a purchase.

[@JaccoSW]

@@Amor_fati.Memento_Mori Laser models generally have a life expectancy of 20,000 to 30,000 hours. Mind you that's almost 7 years on the low end if you have it on for 8 hours a day, every single day. By then you're probably looking at 8K or some new fancy HDR option anyway.

[@HyperMario64]

Optically, this appears to be an amazing engineering feat. I think there may be a lot to be done on the screen side, maybe playing with light polarity, to mitigate this issue with ambient lighting. The projection angle is so strong that very little ambient light comes from that angle. This could be leveraged in a smart way.

[@DoubleMonoLR]

The ALR screen he talked about does exactly that.

[@screen661]

Very good question. Now the optical engineering has been upgraded. For example: T prism technology, 93% of the real ambient light suppresses the screen.

[@michael-4k4000]

had the Samsung USTP and sold it after a year, did not like it.

[@TopCityGhostHunts]

I think it's a great idea but the graphics look like it using last gen console with a chalky screen

[@AndreaZzzXXX]

hello, huge fan of projector here. I bought my first projector 15 years ago with dvd player + amplifier + loudspeaker (5+1), I have a wall and I used a kind of special 'paint' for the screen/wall and this is a nice idea IMHO expecially when the projector is off. Some years ago I changed the DVD player and I bought a new Blu-ray player, both the players where 'SMART' so I have KZbin and all the apps. Five years ago I bought a new projector (Epson). My 'screen' is about 120 inch and, after all these years I can't watch a TV anymore without thinking 'hey is small' :-) I must say I don't play videogames, maybe this is why I am so enthusiastic about this. nice video, bravo from Italy 🙂 PS: I know the kind of projector like the one on this video, yes 'plug and play' is nice but I am sure you must 'calibrate' again every time someone move the beautiful LG HU915Q ... IMHO is bettter to install only once 🙂

[@kierenkd]

Impressed by how short the throw is. I would have gone bigger. My 1080p projector is almost floor to ceiling: its great. An added "bonus" is we are using it in the day

[@Gavztermeizter]

Doesn't that look bad? Aren't your pixels like 2 cm?

[@noizeemama3697]

Just switched this year from my 42" Plasma TV, which had an awesome picture, to a UST projector with a $1500 VividStorm screen. Yes, I lost the beautiful picture of the Plasma, but I love the immersiveness of the 120" screen. I'm floored with how bright my room can be.

[@noizeemama3697]

"The screen is just as important as the projector". Couldn't agree more.

[@rickeyantoine7950]

I have an Ultra Short Throw. We use it a few times a month and like it but prefer a regular TV 80-90% of the time. It’s great for big sporting events, movies with surround sound and watching music videos at night, but it’s more gimmick than something I’d want to watch daily. It’s a nice luxury to have though but would not recommend it for your main living area.

[@itsROMPERS...]

I had a large image projector once, and it was great because I could see it as well no matter what position I was sitting in.

[@Daivd1111]

You have convinced me that I can't afford neither... What I did is bought a roller stand for my 55 incher, and put it right in front of me, and it feels like a 120 incher

[@billschannel1116]

That's awesome. For years I used two displays with my computer. One was a standard projector with a 14' screen that I was about 8 feet away from and at the same time I used a 55" TV at Arms length. Now when I use anything else I find myself squinting. 🙂 At a physical rehab place I used an 82" touchscreen on a really cool looking rolling stand. It was awesome. I definitely would like to pick up one of those. I'm currently looking at a 65" QD-OLED for an arms length PC monitor. I would go bigger but that's where they top off at.

[@dllemm]

smart!

[@bronstet]

Yes, actually. Tou 1000% did the eight thing here. I did the same with my old Samsung 55" 4K JS9000 UHDTV but used an actual TV stand that had wheels on it. TV screen images are supposed to occupy as much of your FOV (field of vision) as possible yet everyone keeps making the same mistake and putting their TVs way too far back. I have since gone projector myself and donated my TV to a friend's needy family as they have 4 kids. They are all very happy now. 😊

Look at the used market. I got a 120" ALR screen and 4k UST for 1200 euros. The price of the setup I have now would by slighty above 5k when it was new. I don't see the difference between a used one and a new one.

[@Daivd1111]

Maybe the difference is in the life left, I recently had my 55 incher break on me, one of the backlight zone is dead, and to fix it is more expensive than buying a new one. But if you can get a cheap second hander and you don't care about warranty, that route is viable.

[@ftlaud911]

Have had a 1080p projector for over a decade. Still love it. Best setup imho is 65-85" thin TV close to wall and a motor projector screen in ceiling. Push a button and it lowers in front of tv when you want the big screen at night/movie. If your trusses are parallel to your wall. Otherwise mount to ceiling.

[@TheKitchenTechnician]

I have the exact same setup. Best of both worlds.

[@PixelBaller]

Such a great video. You talk so naturally and clearly.

[@theblueplanet3576]

Thanks for sharing that looks brilliant. I did not even know this type of projector exist tbh. I will add ust projector to my wish list now

[@tomdrakeification]

In 2018 I added a retractable 100 inch screen with a budget 1080p projector to my living room setup, which at the time had a 55 inch Panasonic VT65 plasma TV. I found myself hardly ever using the TV except for simple TV shows and was all in on the projector for gaming and movies even though the TV had significantly better image quality. Four years later I've upgraded the TV to a 65 inch LG C1 OLED, but that still doesn't get much use for gaming or movies because the 106 inch screen (largest that fits the room, and I'm sat pretty close) and Optoma UHD42 4K projector that replaced my first projector and screen are just gorgeous. Yes the OLED has better picture quality but the projector still looks amazing and the size difference can't be ignored. Love the TV but the projector is the first choice for just about everything. My projector setup was also much cheaper than the UST options and indeed the OLED - £1,200 for the projector, £250 for the screen, £50 for a long fibre optic HDMI cable, and about £25 for a ceiling mount. (For something of a best of both worlds, I have a 48 inch C1 in my office for up close PC gaming that fills even more of my field of vision than the projector does in the living room, but it's not quite the same as reclining on the sofa and still having a huge screen. Also not really suited to watching movies with others!)

[@billschannel1116]

Certain individuals in the comment section have been doubting me when I say that my family, my friends, and I always chose the projector when given a choice. I don't care what people chose, I just don't want people turned away due to inaccuracies like projectors need darkness, etc. I'm thinking about a QD oled for the computer but to be honest I wish they came in greater than 65" screens.

[@thcyprus]

Is it all about the field of vision? E.g. one room with 110" projection screen where you sit a bit further from the screen, vs another room which is a bit smaller and you sit a bit closer to an 83" OLED so that the viewing angle is exactly the same. Would the projector setup still be better? (assuming only 1-2 people would be watching, so room size wouldn't be an issue)

[@billschannel1116]

@@thcyprus i know your changing your distance but its worth noting that there's a lot of size difference between 82 and 110. The 110 is going to have 80% more area. But anyways while my projectors have always been much larger than my TVs, I do have experience using a 48 and 55 inch tvs point blank with just me. It feels different to me but I enjoy both situations. If your eyes are normal you can do a poor man's test by using your phone vs your TV. I can't really do that because my eye muscles treat far vs close different. Which is a shame because it hampers my VR usage. But if it feels the same to you than perhaps the TV vs projector would too. And it's worth noting that after you get a projector you might start wanting even larger screens. Literally my number 1 ask to my realtor was I wanted a large blank wall. He never did understand until I found a place where I could do a 14 foot picture. Now that was back before ultra short throws. Now it's both easier and harder to do large screens. Easier in that throw distance is inches not feet but harder because you can't start your vertical height at the baseboard with a ust. At least not right side up.

[@thcyprus]

@@billschannel1116 Thanks. A question: as you get bigger screens do you increase your viewing angle, or you sit further back to maintain the same viewing angle?

[@vinzzbe]

I own an Epson LS500 without an ALR screen and the quality is great, even under daylight conditions (except when sun is shinning directly on it). Even gaming works well on this device. I'm very happy with my purchase (bought it a few months ago)!

[@DC-tl5nr]

Curious to what you're projecting the image to? I'm considering picking up an Epson epiq vision ls300 but not keen on getting a ALR screen.

[@rontaumelscheibe]

have fun with this new equipment. sold my last TV....18 years ago. Since this time I'm using projector(s). What such more fun!

[@yeetskeet955]

For me starting out buying a cheap $60 projector for an all white bedroom was magical, I used it consistently putting live wallpapers up but was annoyed with the shadows from walking around, after buying a used vava 4k it is significantly brighter, shows up during the day and as far as display on my wall is a giant upgrade, it fixed the whole shadow thing and there really is nothing comparable to having a wall being lit up with abstract art especially when people don’t know where it’s coming from! I might have to buy a screen when I go to university but for right now it’s easy to move while I change rooms has been a life saver, the projection paint does help a little bit but ultimately I liked the white paint I used before and changed it back

[@michaelholopainen2822]

And if you go through the trouble of mounting it to ceiling it is even better. It takes no more room than flat screen TV. But the benefit a projector has over flat screen is : space or more accurately the lack of space it requires. With motorized roll up screen you can have the screen appear out of thin air to front of the window and disappear when you do not need it. But roll up screen absolutely suck with UST projectors. UST is really, really picky for the screen surface. Even tensioned screen will have waves and ripples in the screen pretty soon. And those are REALLY horrible for UST. And with laser it it so bight that you need grey low gain surface. Also the thing about Laser projectors they do never mention is that with the advertised 4 times longer "lamp" life than normal lamp projectors is not the life of lamp which in normal projector you can replace with few hundred dollar replacement lamp making the projector as good as brand new. In laser projector the "lamp" life is the life of the whole projector. You buy $25000 Laser projector which you get to throw away in 4 years once the laser dims in heavy daily use. As where lamp projector is running still running great after 30 years (like mine was) you just replace the lamp when ever you feel the image gets too dim.

[@ULTRAWIDE.]

Hope they keep refining and making these better. I’d love to get one one day however the response time and HDR/lack of Dolby Vision related issues need to be ironed out first. Going from OLEDs perfect blacks is something really hard to go back on.

[@GamezGuru1]

the black level looks terrible...

[@TerryFT86]

@@GamezGuru1 it's a projector, the screen reflecting the daylight itself giving you the idea of black lv is terrible. Not to mention he put extra lights in the room for video shoot along with the fact they just don't have a great viewing angle when there are other light sources in the room. But that's how it is with them, you play in a room with control lights or dark room.

[@bricaaron3978]

@@Optimus514 *"Anyone who buys a projector and watches it with the lights on, let alone the blinds open during the day, is being silly and wasting their money."* This kind of fact needs to be disseminated. The media (who generally work for the industry) certainly isn't doing a good job of it. Though front projection suffers the worst, watching _any_ display in a lighted environment is silly if one cares about immersion. As ambient light increases, our pupils constrict, which limits our ability to perceive shadow details, reduces contrast ratio, and destroys the ability to perceive one of the main reasons for buying an OLED: True blacks.

[@ollym990]

@@bricaaron3978 Even watching an OLED in a well lit room during the day isn’t much fun. Dark room is best no matter what.

[@bricaaron3978]

@@ollym990 That's right. Like I said, watching any display in a lighted environment is bad for image quality and immersion. Especially CRT or OLED, because you won't even be able to distinguish the difference between the black level of an LCD due to pupil constriction.

[@rruizproductions]

I have an Optoma laser at 100”. It’s perfect. Great with shades open and spectacular with shades closed. Vizio surround sound sound bar attached to a hdmi switch with audio extractor via toslink. It’s a great setup. Not a gamer but a sports viewer.

[@lieulieubear1407]

I just purchased mine on Amazon. I can’t wait to make this as my theater

[@kryptorick5120]

Another great thing with a projector/screen is that it can be very discrete. My screen is completely hidden behind a ceiling wood beam and it only rolls down when I turn the projector on. Even the projector isn't that visible between the beams. That means you don't have a huge ass tv looming over your living room constantly when maybe you actually only use it in the evening. Makes for a clean look.

[@whatsupbudbud]

That's the best aspect for this as opposed to a big ass tv. One thing I do think is that there should be some kind of a ultrasound dust protection as the lens is going to be clogged up with dust in two days tops. You can even see the dust there already in the video. Anyway, this device is totally not consumer ready which the price tag explains perfectly but, just like the ultra high end VR headsets that show life-like image, this will trickle down to affordable just like all consumer electronics usually does. And the best part is that it will be even better than it is right now.

[@kryptorick5120]

@@whatsupbudbud all true. I never noticed any impact from dust though. I'll clean my lense just to check

[@billschannel1116]

@@whatsupbudbud I've had an ultra short throw projector in a dusty room for about 14 months. It doesn't impact image quality. It's on the floor and in the path of dust coming from a vent. It's extremely sturdy and not something I worry about at all. We have a toddler who does everything around it while it's on. The screen turns down the moment something moves near it's beams. I haven't been able to have it hit my eyes and I've tried. The only part I worry about is the head of the HDMI cable plugged into the projector. I wouldn't want the kid to step on that but it's not a natural thing for them to do, and I don't worry about it. I only use one hdmi port anyways. The toddler LOVES the projector. She likes how she can walk right up to the wall and touch the picture. (We do not use a screen)

[@foolycooly3763]

I think a tv adds to a room. Like a piece of furniture almost

[@DJ_Force]

My home theater projects right on the wall. No screen to fuss with. I'm sure some purists would take issue, but with the lights out for movies, all you see is the image. I think it looks great. Also, given the density of the light, any microscopic dust grain on the lense will shine. That doesn't mean it affects the image.

[@ravekoremusic]

lol we know damn well it can't possibly be "better than an OLED TV" but good title, gotta grab them clicks

[@andry4313]

The clarity from it only being 2 feet from the wall is quite fascinating for a projector.

[@TheAr287]

I used projector only from 2009- 2013. Besides the fact that that particular setup required me to have blackout curtains only, I loved it when I was living in my bachelor pad.

[@MFRiley]

The immersion that a projector offers surpasses any TV IMO. I have an OLED, which I love, but the projector at my girlfriends parents house has converted me. I'll be buying a BenQ HT2050A soon. Are the blacks as deep? No. Do the colors pop quite as much? No. But the immersion that the big screen offers surpasses the TV easily. I never find myself wishing for anything when watching something on the projector, but I've often wished my TV was bigger. If you're able and willing to make your room dark when watching things, a projector is the way to go. TV's of course still have their place. In a brighter room, or at a closer viewing distance. But if you're trying to get the most out of a movie watching experience, buy a projector. You can't really comment on picture quality unless you've seen this stuff in person, videos will make it look way different.

[@sonobeno]

Nicely presented review. I have the ls500 without a screen as we seldom watch stuff doing day time, and it is bright enough that day time viewings are fine. Don't think a screen is that mandatory. I've tried a few projectors, he P2 and this one amongst them, and this tri laser proejctor still gave me rainbow effects which I'm unfortunately very susceptible to, so its LCD all the way for me.

[@zillaeffect]

I’ve had a projector for nearly 7 years and I love it still.

[@guychoo2]

Cool and précise, I like your style Sir ! Thank you 🤘

[@Ramiryoooooooooo]

Makes me wonder if some of those down sides would be fixed/solved with a better/more expensive projector. My only experience was with a super basic $170 projector that I expanded to it’s limits (roughly 300 inches), projected on an old white wall riddled with nail holes that I painted over with white out, placed on top of a stool on top of a table, using envelopes and books to level the image. So, yeah, your set-up for me would be like going from an Atari 2600 to a PS2 lmao

[@DoubleVisionSoundSystem]

I certainly prefer movies on a projected image, and not because of the size. Our eyes see the world through reflected light and I feel projected images feel more organic over tv’s, which are essentially like staring at a light source. I’m not so fussed about all the technicalities, because the way it ‘feels’ to me is more important than how it technically looks.

[@MartinNgugike]

very true and i think it protects your eyes in the long run

[@AnotherWatchChannel]

I game on a 175” screen…and yes TV has more backlight and it’s awesome…but you can’t ignore the level of immersion when gaming on a screen that’s floor to ceiling and wall to wall. It’s full immersion with your peripheral vision. It’s a addicting and so much fun.

[@robkov]

Great honest review! Thanks

[@JoshSher_]

I just always feel that projectors deliver more of a natural experience, even though they might not be as good as the tvs on paper.

[@ILooveeuuu]

I get you

[@Fedorevsky]

For sure! TV's look digital in comparison even with all the over the top effects turned off and viewed in ISF mode.

[@FREDIS-ev8nn]

Projector still doesn't beat TV. It's got its own place anyway. Great review as always Tom👍

[@billschannel1116]

For some people it does. You give me the choice on movie night of a 82" C2 or a 14' projector and I'd go with the projector. Now TVs are great, especially for close up action. I use a 55" at arms length as a PC monitor. Looking to upgrade to a 65" QD-OLED. I'd really like larger but that's where that technology currently tops off at. I used a really nice 82" touch screen monitor and it was fantastic but those are really pricey. You used to be able to "roll your own" touchscreen by adding a touch surface to any screen but sadly this is one place where smaller bezzles hurt you as they are made to be secured to the font bezzles.

[@dllemm]

@@billschannel1116 How big is your room that 83" isn't large enough? OLED is significantly sharper and higher contrast than projectors. Contrast means everything for image quality.

[@billschannel1116]

@@dllemm The living room is 12x15 and the family room is 12x14. We mostly live in the living room so that is where we put the projector since it's our preferred device. The OLED TV is in the family room, and the 55" is in the dining room on the computer.

[@Nostrildumbass]

@@dllemm 83" is peanuts once you're used to 130"

[@whitegoodman7465]

@@billschannel1116 55 inch at arms length, id go fckn blind.

[@MC-cl9wz]

Food for thought indeed. Thanks

[@trendyprojectors4743]

Thanks for the honest review!

[@Robstalobsta82]

I got a refurb optima cinemax p2 for 1500 and a CLR screen from ali express for 500. Honestly just as good as your setup in every aspect. I also agree the 50ms lag time kills a lot of gaming (for me mainly fighting games) and I look forward to upgrading next year to a lower lag projector as they come down in price.

[@phillylarkin.s1930]

It's a lie 🤣

[@JamieDelour]

@@phillylarkin.s1930 What is?

[@billschannel1116]

You got a P2 for $1500 USD? Man that's awesome. I tip my hat to you.

[@phillylarkin.s1930]

@@JamieDelour he said it WAS the truth

[@Robstalobsta82]

@@phillylarkin.s1930 yep it was on sale plus it was a refurb on adaroma. I don't know why that unbelievable, looks like you can find them right now for under 1900 brand new. These are dropping in price rapidly as newer models come out. This isn't a bleeding edge technology anymore.

[@ModernDayGeeks]

This is actually a great review! A little bit pricey, yea, but I do think its very worth it for a home theater experience but OLED TV is much more cheaper. Projectors might be better than TV but it all depends on your preference and situation. I do hope that they evolve this thing because its actually a cool experience, especially when you have a small apartment, you can save much more space without having a hassle of moving a huge TV around.

[@doc-holliday-]

No man. This guys video is absolutely awful if it gave you the impression that OLEDs are cheaper. You can set up a 4k projector and entire theater room with 120 inch screen for less than the price of a 65 inch OLED. That's including surround sound system and everything else you might need to set your room up to give you the best picture.

[@MrBatchy123]

I’ve got an 120 inch motorised screen off eBay for £60 and it’s 3D ready. Bought my display model projector from richer sounds and saved about £200. All in I paid around £700 and my cinema room is absolutely boss. I don’t use it that much but when there’s a big game on or a superb film to watch it’s amazing

[@nengizmo]

Well done Great production

[@gabriellestuart921]

I think Im going to go for one of the cheaper (£3,000) ones with 100' screen. Just more fun! I spend most of my time on my computer and only really use the main TV for films anyway so the 'event' feeling is worth it. The tablet in the kitchen and TV in the bedroom will be enough for just the news etc. Plus the Hisense ones I looked at had a 16ms response rate at 4k so perfectly adequate for gaming for my needs! Cheers for the video!

[@user-ki6id4vt8u]

Ok rich woman...as if it's your money anyway...

[@gabriellestuart921]

@@user-ki6id4vt8u butsore much? Because a woman has something you can't achieve? A decent job? Kindly go back to your cave and become extinct.

[@user-ki6id4vt8u]

@@gabriellestuart921 "Decent job" - you lack a brain, a mind, and the way you responded just reiterated that

[@user-ki6id4vt8u]

@@gabriellestuart921 Go back to your swamp ogre

[@d.c.billman760]

@@user-ki6id4vt8u Whiny, jealous little excuse for a man

[@donny_bahama]

My wife and I have a relatively inexpensive 65” TV that we watch in the daytime. The picture is very good, albeit rather small for my liking. In the evening (starting around dusk), we drop down our electric (non-ALR) 120” screen over the TV, take our projector out of the lovely wooden box where it’s kept, place it on the coffee table, and enjoy a fantastic cinematic experience regardless of whether it’s TV, a movie, or a sporting event.(We don’t do any gaming.) It’s the best of both worlds and cost less than $3000. I highly recommend this kind of setup.

[@sammy2nd]

God damn I was not ready for the time splitters split screen moment you just earned a subscriber

[@andyp123456]

This is a pretty high end setup, but I got a BenQ DLP 1080p short throw project for my previous apartment about 10 years ago for about £500 and it was amazing for watching movies, TV shows like Game of Thrones and playing games. I projected directly onto a white wall that had textured wallpaper, so was definitely far from an ideal setup, but it was great. The best thing about the setup for me, as someone who doesn't watch that much TV, and tends to only watch stuff or play games in the evening when it's dark is that there isn't a big shiny black rectangle dominating the room the rest of the time, which in a small room is quite nice, as it could be completely hidden away in a few seconds when not in use. It's also way easier to move a projector around, though you are limited in where you can put it if you don't have a suitable surface to project onto. TVs are better I think, but I just love the giant image for high budget TV shows, movies and some types of games.

[@mr.yonosenada]

I have a 120" regular projector screen in my studio and it works well enough with my long-throw 1080p projector. I can only imagine how much of an improvement this projector would be, but sadly it is totally out of my price range...

[@FEV369]

One of the problems with large screens and gaming is you end up doing worse because it's harder to see everything that's happening. You're head/eyes travel less far on a computer screen playing a FPS than a 120" screen. Just something to consider. I also wonder if watching movies has the same effect, IE two characters are talking but due to the large screen you only really see one at a time because of the separation, but the movie was made with the ability to see both's reactions at the same time.

[@HandleHandle123]

I disagree, eyes sense movement very well and having the thing your looking for be bigger is much easier, plus eyes are also very very fast and the time to look the extra distance is not that big of a deal. But I can’t argue 24 inch monitors are much cheaper 😂

[@ananiasurnake]

Thank you for honest review. That 50ms input lag on games is a show stopper for me.

[@ibnfahmi7372]

I’m thrilled to see the wallpaper I made on the thumbnail, you made my day before going to work. Question tho, did you got it from Wallhaven?

[@JacobAndJamal]

I recently switched from a 65in OLED to a 77in OLED , when I moved to a larger house . While obvious looking at it hindsight; the 77in still feels same as 65in because of the larger living room … To think years ago I thought my 42in LCD was a big TV 😆 . We’ve all gotten spoiled by modern Tech

[@VictorPoulin]

Close the gap and sit closer my friend

[@DC...]

150" projector screen will make everything feel small

[@andrewhite4431]

I wanted the LG 65" C1 until I saw the 75/77" TV's beside it.

[@jonnyram32]

I switched this year to projectors from oled also 120inchs love my awol 3500 it's not as black as oled but the size makes up for it.

[@romeoquintero6628]

Hey does that AWOL have edge blending.

[@YFTOUCH]

The touchsreen looks very amazy and comfortable!

[@emlacotibu4633]

great project for my family

[@Smellslikegelfling]

I think a projector is ideal for home theater, and the technology in these short throw laser projectors is awesome. But it makes placing a center channel speaker more difficult if you have a surround stereo system because the projector is blocking that spot. It also probably isn't ideal for bright rooms.

[@rK4n3]

​@@tinymitoIn general I believe you don't want to mount UST projectors from the ceiling. They're heavier than normal projectors and the ALR screens are only optimized for light coming from below. I believe many USTs don't even have an image-flipping option.

[@dnegel9546]

Put the center speaker on top of it

[@techsamurai11]

An interesting product because it can change dimensions and seems bright enough to be in a bright room. Wanna watch a movie, set it at 120 inches, want to watch tennis, set it at 60. Actually it would be great if it could more easily change the size. Also the screen has to match the wall color - with changing sizes you don’t want a border, you’d want some reflective transparent material/paint on the wall. This could be the ultimate tv especially if cost drops to 2,000. I might pick it over OLED especially if it supports 3d.

[@conchobar]

As someone who has lived with both. Size really does compensate for image quality. The only people I steer toward a TV are those who primarily watch during the day time, don't really watch movies, and spend a large percentage of their screen time (40%+) gaming. All others, would appreciate the benefits of a 100" UST over a 75" television. The new ForMovie UST is amazing for the price.

[@innocentrage1]

Welp I'm sold. Every reviewer keeps talking how good for movie is

[@melcrose]

Nreal Air glasses. I have a 120" screen in my pocket. I put the cats in the backyard and the image was PERFECTLY bright looking at a shaded white garage. These things are incredible.

[@lukerichards8094]

the tech involved with this has changed massively to what projectors were! fantastic piece of kit but too expensive

[@bingobongo1615]

Yeah projectors used to be pretty meh with image quality (at least your standard consumer ones) and were loud and got super hot. This looks much better. That being said - it was fucking tiring watching TV or do casual gaming on a super large screen… Heck for strategy games I still prefer my small PC monitor and at work I downsized from a super wide monitors to two small ones for more concentration and focus.

[@toltecarlos]

The light from the window really washes out the onscreen image. It would have been interesting to verify how the image improves by dimming the light from the window. Also, the light intensity from the laser seems too average, maybe with more intensity models the washing out effect could be greatly reduced. Maybe it's time for a lego-like modular and huge TV screen to arrive to the market because I'm not quite convinced by the projection TVs.

[@Kumodot]

have sure that over youtube and a camera you have like 50% of the real image quality. Even compared ti shooting a Tv. Projector is very good in person on modern projectors.

[@jesusprem]

I got what I'm looking for 😁😂.. thanks bro

[@BinJuice1630]

I have never seen a projector so visible in such a bright room, I am converted. I am absolutely doing this since I wont need it for gaming. I just need a big screen and the theatre experience.

[@shank2001]

There is no such thing as too big of a screen. I went from a projector to an LG OLED, and I miss the size like crazy, although my screen was 192" or 16 feet. Love the picture quality of the OLED, but thinking about switching back.

[@elduderino7767]

picture quality on those tvs are great... but sitting back on your couch you really aren't taking advantage of it as the further back you sit the less quality you are capable of perceiving however that isn't true for projectors, it's largely the opposite and a large screen at 4k from the couch i feel it strikes a much better overall viewing experience you have to get some light control for you projector room though, some block out curtains are a must, even if they sit on top of your current solution... sacrificing the picture quality during the day is a massive downside, you have to do something to mitigate that - for me it was easy as i only have one large window in my lounge room which is closed off by doors

[@thierryfaquet7405]

@@elduderino7767 you know you can just... move the couch closer. Free tip on you.

[@elduderino7767]

@@thierryfaquet7405 using the lounge room entertainment display as a personal monitor isn't going to work for 99% of people

[@thierryfaquet7405]

@@elduderino7767 who said anything about that ? Just push the couch a few feet/cm...

[@elduderino7767]

@@thierryfaquet7405 from a seating position of 4m away for a 70" tv you'll need to move the lounge 2 meters forward to get the same screen size if projecting a modest 140" screen

[@StreetComp]

Using Front Projectors with screens at least 96” feels much more like watching a movie in a theatre and no regular TV can replicate that. I’ve been using PJs for years now and theres just something about projecting the image in this manner that makes it far better, go ahead see for yourself. No idea if UST projectors work as well but they are very convenient.

[@billschannel1116]

UST projectors are a huge step up but they are more costly. But given you are a projector owner, I highly recommend going the UST route. You will not regret it. I've been using projectors since around 2003, and our UST blew our minds. It's also awesome for placement and people can walk through the room, and you can still turn on lamps, etc. It's awesome.

[@StreetComp]

@@billschannel1116 thanks for the info, I was all set to buy a UST for new home but I’m gonna have to wait now 😞

[@Mind_of_MATT]

Very good. I've been interested in the UST projectors for awhile. This one is out of my price range. If I were to buy one now I'd have to go with a single laser one at half the price of this LG. I'm currently using a 75" Sony that I plan to get .ore years out of but I will be keeping my eye on how UST develops & I can see going this route in the future.

[@JamesWilliams-gf8gm]

Looks good. Need to paint that ceiling with a low reflectance black though.

[@KnightMD]

I loved this video a very comprehensive review, and I was almost sold on paying that much for a setup.. Till you got to the refresh rate. Having shifted from a 133hz down to a 60hz laptop just to get a second screen (ASUS Duo), I immediately felt the difference and hated it. If I'm paying that amount of cash, there is no way in hell I'd pay it for less than 120hz. I do agree for movies and watching love games etc, it's unbeatable.

[@shivaprasath007]

I did the same mistake too asus zenbook pro duo😫

[@Strangepete]

Fun to see you here. What refresh rate do you play PES on for the last few years? I hear many have issue with high refresh rates in PES games. And do you play at 1440p?

[@KnightMD]

@@StrangepeteHEY! PES? Just 60hz... Too weak of a PC. Assist, I think it's capped at that. And only 1080p.

[@Strangepete]

@@KnightMD Thanks for answering. I play on a 1080p monitor and also a 1080p tv (good monitor and good tv just not 4K) but I do notice that with that DSR "dynamic super resolution" in nvidia 3d settings 4.00 (so a 4K internal resolution just downscaled to fit the image to my 1080 native screen) looks so much cleaner. Kits, logos and player models etc. look much sharper and not so blurry. But I like replays and cutscenes to be a steady 60 fps for that smooth broadcast look. Can't maintain that with my gtx 1660 so I hope to get a an RTX 3070 in a year or so. But inflation and the world ending is sort of being a nuisance. If you have a higher card try out what I said if you don't already know of it and let me know how it goes. So strange that 1080p looks REALLY sharp with a 4K internal output but native 1080p looks blurry. How annoying lol.

[@gotechakash]

No Tom! I would stick with Lg's G1 or G2 OLED Tv! 🥳

[@Thetechchap]

Yep agreed

[@mikemiller659]

Yep !!

[@scupking]

I have the classic BenQ HT2050. I paid $699 for it and a 100 inch screen for a total cost of under $1000. That was 7 years ago. The image still impresses me to this day. Granted it's in my light controlled finished basement. Today I would suggest the new BenQ HT2060. It has very good HDR performance, fantastic contrast, 120hz, fast response time and LED light source for $1,000. If you pair it with an ALR screen you could get about the same experience you are getting with that laser projector all for under $1500.

[@china_is_asshole]

Put the shades down with a dimmer layer and the room is popping with the projector screen 👌👌... If the eye doesn't notice that, the camera does👌

[@smileychess]

I had a nice 75” Sony with all the modern features. Then switched to a midrange Epson projector with 128” screen. I thought I would miss the contrast, but I haven’t looked back. It still supports HDR and 4K and I couldn’t be happier. And it’s way cheaper than these ultra short throw projectors. My entire project (including screen and long HDMI cable) was around $2,500.

[@kandiharper]

Which projector did you get? I’m also looking into a mini home theater project myself.

[@chrys9256]

I used 1080p Optoma projectors for over 10 years and I think they offer a much better experience than 1080p LCD TVs and it's not even close. When I decided to upgrade to 4K however I realized there wasn't a single projector within my budget (1500 euros) that came even remotely close to an OLED in terms of overall picture quality, contrast, HDR performance, refresh rate and response times. I would need to spend a lot more to get close and even then you're still making compromises. Going from 120" down to a 55" LG OLEDCX was brutal at first, not gonna lie, but after I rearranged my living room to sit closer to the TV and had some time to get used to it I definitely believe I made the right choice, it looks amazing. I will say this, if you're thinking about getting a projector don't do it unless you have a light controlled room with dark walls. Even an expensive ALR screen like the one Tom used isn't going to fully compensate for light reflecting off surrounding walls, which is quite obvious in this video.

[@billschannel1116]

I disagree on that last point. We went with a UST in a well lit room without a screen. We use it around the clock and love it. With both TVs and projectors your going to have the people who suggest dark rooms. That's fine and everyone is right but that doesn't mean that you shouldn't use these things in bright rooms. It's a bit like saying you shouldn't drive your car on anything but a highway because otherwise you get worse gas mileage, more brake usage, it's harder on the battery, transmission, etc.

[@chrys9256]

@@billschannel1116 I think a more proper analogy would be buying a sports car intending to only drive it on dirt roads or during heavy traffic. Nothing's stopping you from doing that, but you're wasting its full potential. If you're fine with a washed out image that's great for you, I wish I was so easily pleased myself, but I stand by what I said. A dark room is imperative to get the most out of a projector.

[@billschannel1116]

@@chrys9256 ... And a dark room is better for an OLED.... But these things look awesome at other times too. I think it's closer to my analogy. The implication that I am easily pleased is not correct and demeaning.

[@chrys9256]

@@billschannel1116 A dark room is better for an OLED as well, sure, but unless the TV is directly facing a window with bright sunlight coming through the picture quality is not going to be affected anywhere near as much as a projector image will. I didn't mean for what I said to be demeaning, but you said you're fine with using your projector in a well lit room without a screen, I'm not sure how that implies you have the highest standards. Doesn't that mean you're more easily pleased than someone like me who went through the trouble of painting his entire living room dark grey, added blackout curtains and installed a screen?

[@TriMuXx]

Seems like you jumped on the projector train when it was not capable, but modern projectors are and they no longer require pitch black rooms much less all windows covered with blinds. I get an amazing image with windows open and lights on with my projector. You may want to look at the Epson brand or just get a triple laser projector so that all colors are the same brightness instead of only having bright white and the rest of the colors are dim like other projectors do.

[@blissweb]

I've got a lot of experience with projectors over the years, and find that they can't be beat for the movie or event experience (e.g. Formula 1). I never watch "background tv noise". For me, movies are an event and should be treated as such. Anyway, at the moment I'm building a new system for a new house and it will have a drop down electric screen which completely disappears into the ceiling. Thanks for filling the void about the types of material for screen and the possibility of Ultra Short Throw, which I had not previously considered.

[@AnimationAndMusicTimeTunnel]

Its interesting, first time I've really discovered these to be honest in their newer setup, I had no idea you could get projectors where you can have them close to the wall and not have to mount them on your ceiling or anywhere else that could get people walking in front of etc.. so thats good. Also, I like how the HDMI's are in the back for firesticks or whatever as most apps aren't available on smart TV's and they're also sluggish to navigate. Definitely sounds like like you need a screen though but I've just seen some that come up from the ground which are pretty good. A little expensive though and from your review it sounds like they will improve but I can honestly see this being the way TV goes to be honest and it's good, as long as it matches the quality nicely for people 😊🙏🏼

[@KevL23]

I owned a lamp projector years ago , which was perfect for watching a old story movie. I enjoyed it. When big size TV became affordable, even just a led TV which is way better than a big money projector in any way but the size. But things changed when TV is 75inch big, projector is not that attractive anymore. Now just go for a big TV, you won't regret it, don't waste money on projector.

[@tobiasvuorelma2156]

Would be really interesting to see how this compares to the TCL 98C735 => 98" UHD 120Hz for less money. Doesn't quite reach 120", but probably a lot better in many ways. :)

[@michael-4k4000]

120" is so much bigger then 98"!

[@healer80]

Even on such expensive projector watching it during the day with sunlight never gonna be the same experience as on oled tv

[@YannMetalhead]

Good video!

[@markjacobsen8165]

I find 16×9 TV's so far to small for movies that are filmed in cinemascope 21:9 ratio. I would be very interested when they make a short throw projector with a 21:9 panel for my new place. My previous home had a custom 130"inch 21:9 screen for movies filed in cinemascope and the image size was re-adjusted for 16:9 viewing at 100inch 16×9 ratio via a remote control, exactly the sam as the movie theatre.. I did have black pillars on the side of the screen instead but JVC black levels are very good. I believe this is a better veiwing experience particular for movies.

[@WaffleShortage]

get a 21:9 monitor then lol. (i have one and it's fantastic and im never going back) or whatever the 'SUPER Ultrawide' aspect ration that's out now if you want to watch movies at your desk. i see the appeal for a projector for home movie viewing with company... but it does raise the question- "why aren't these projectors coming out of the box in 21:9?"

[@MaestroDK]

If you can sit close enough a 77" OLED will fill your vision just as well as a 120" projector image. 99% of the time we are max 4 and sit about 2m (6 feet) from our 77" OLED and it beats any projector image. Love the idea of a 150" projector image though but the price of top end projectors makes that out of the question for me.

[@Krazzar]

The calc is diagonal screen size in inches divided by 10 to give seating distance in feet to get 40 degrees field of view. 120" screen means 12 feet back. You can use this to make your phone have the same "screen space" as a 300" cinema screen by taking up 40 degrees of your field of view. That doesn't mean it's the same experience. I thought the same and consulted clients on this principle but found it actually isn't true and I have heard the same from others in the PJ world. I have a CX65 and a 120" screen with an Epson LS12000b, both in light controlled rooms at 40 degrees field of view. Even though the CX is technically better I prefer the PJ. There is a certain appeal that goes beyond specs. To get large format TVs they'll have to design interlocking panels to get in the home and that adds cost and complexity. In the PJ world traditional throw is where the performance is and $5,000 is the entry point for high contrast performance while $25,000 is mid-grade. JVC, Sony, and Epson are the main players. We're seeing a lot of movement in the $3,000-5,000 range with mostly USTs but at those prices the PQ is below TVs. All USTs currently trade PQ for convenience.

[@slashingbison2503]

6 thousand! Holy moly!! I was thinking 3k! Looks awesome though , I just don’t think you’ll ever get that oled 4K quality on a projector

[@Trolldatroller]

Okay am convinced am switching to projectors

[@blakestrother5122]

Honestly, one of the biggest reasons I want to at least switch from TVs to projectors is moving. These short throws seem so much more superior if you need to move. Any tv 55in and bigger just takes so much work to prep for a move so the screen doesn’t crack.

[@skinnypete1322]

That was a weird reason tbh, do you move every couple month? Just keep the box you got the TV in, and it's easy and safe to move.

[@blakestrother5122]

@@skinnypete1322 definitely not a weird reason at all but be judgmental all you want. 1. I have kept the boxes but even if with a 55 inch so you know how much real estate those boxes take. Because ideally you would want to not break them down and keep the inserts that are molded to your tv inside. It’s definitely the safest thing to do but if you live in a small apartment or even a house it takes a lot of space to store those. 2. Now add that you might have 3 or four 55 inch TVs in a full household these days. Yeah no thanks. Also what does it matter how much you move, packing them is a pain, if you don’t have the boxes it’s expensive to get them repacked properly, and large glass screens are just a liability in general. With these short throws you have all your smart features almost just as easily without the liability and inconvenience of a huge glass box.

[@HereWeGo0o0]

Wouldn’t all these percents change depending on league size, scoring settings and roster configurations? So what setup are these numbers based on?

[@whitehh15]

I would shorten the legs of the tv stand before I set a projector up to have the picture touching the ceiling. Nice review

[@kryptorick5120]

I moved to a projector and screen for my main setup years ago and never looked back. Gaming on a projector is ok, it's even good if your room can be made dark enough but a tv will probably still beat it by a bit, especially OLED ones. Just because contrast, brightness and pixel definition make any game more crisp on the backlit screen of a tv. But when you switch to movies or tv content, a projector is absolutely brilliant. Especially in the evening. Cannot be compared. Watching grandiose shows or movies on a 120 inch screen is an experience every time. Now if you have the $$, I'll tell you that a great setup, is gaming on a 4k LG Cx 48" (on a desk, I'm a pc gamer) and watching movies and shows on a 120inch screen and projector. Best of both worlds.