THE TRUTH ABOUT THE ANASTASIA BEVERLY HILLS SUBCULTURE PALETTE!!!!

[@cflowermakeup]

I agree some people are over exaggerating with how they dip into the shadow... still surprised at this palette tho. I think the brand should have atleast came out with a statement BEFORE it came out saying it's a different formula than the others and they are soft packed pigments and really pigmented so they wouldn't have had so much negative response.

[@MaggieMedusa]

cflowermakeup ingredients posted in the back of the palette for a reason

[@amandam120]

cflowermakeup iii

[@DivaFondaXXX]

Maggie, who reads ingredients unless they're allergic? Come on!! If you have to be a chemistry major to use a palette, that's too much work!

[@RenRen2453]

Maggie Mortis if you think the majority of consumers actually read ingredients then you are wrong. Also, no where in the ingredients of this palette imply that it would be pure pressed pigments, that is a matter of formulation technique that is unique and actually secret to every brand.

[@cherrycakes2866]

They did.

[@almassharifi7509]

You are the chef gordon ramsey of makeup lovers

[@IDontKnow-pf6en]

Almas Sharifi hahahahah YES

[@agnesiacarissa219]

Lol, no.

[@padelackles]

perfect

[@heroinechic1209]

Aw he's in his own category!

[@justlovecoffee]

you can use a better analogy 🤣

[@ivorypetalz]

I'm not gonna lie. ...I find the amount of controversy over this pallet very entertaining. The comment section of these videos should be used in some day time soap opera. But in all seriousness, since I don't own this pallet, all of these conflicting reviews seriously make me question spending money on it. I mean, both sides have a valid argument soooo....I just don't know.

[@VioletIceFire]

ivorypetalz i'm with you, its so pretty but I'm wondering if the brushes I own are soft enough and whether I have the skill for it

[@fairday2]

I bought the palette because I am too stubborn not to try, and I like the colors. I am careful, and find the colors beautiful, but I am careful not to get too elaborate.

[@hopeshelties]

I'm an average makeup enthusiast and so long as I use a light hand it is fine. The majority of the review videos drive me nuts. IMO it makes a lot of them look stupid, the way they dip into the product. Really? They're makeup gurus on KZbin and can't figure after the first dip in not to continue using it in the same manner? The reason they get so much fallout is they are packing a ton of product onto the brush. If you work in light, thin layers and just lightly touch the palette, fallout would not be all that bad. The palette is useable so long as you use common sense.

[@emeraldbeauty01]

I have this palette and yes it does have fall out but I’m always light handed when I apply eyeshadows and never had problems.

[@karolina.nojber]

this is my favorite palette, I really don't get all the hate..I'm not professional make up artist, and still create beautiful looks with this palette, and have almost zero fallout when I use shadows with light touch

[@alesiaklearti8054]

The patchiness and the oxidation is worse than the fallout.. I can deal with fallout.. But what do you do when you're favorite eyeshadow is so patchy and when you try to blend out the edges it just disappears.. I was so excited for this palette..

[@emieestere8054]

ALESIA KLEARTI and darkens in your crease :/

[@ipetzombies]

That's what I haven't seen anyone address. I don't care about fallout and yes of course certain colors will turn muddy if you mix them. But explain what the deal is with the shadows literally changing color on the lid? Even when they're alone and only one color is applied I've seen so so many people where it would be super dark in one or two little patches. It looks like the formula is sucking up any moisture on the skin and discoloring it.

[@Lulu-kj1qy]

I think we have to remember that the palette is going to the general public. It isn't made for MUAs and people will use the brush the palette comes with. The expectation is that it's going to be like the Modern renaissance palette which is easy to use and blend.

[@nikkiajoy]

Yesss!! Finally someone who agrees with me! I got SO MUCH HATE in the comments on my review because I said the same thing lol! You just need to be gentle with the palette and use less pressure... I also didn't have major dramas blending it. And of course when you mix yellow with green you're going to get a dark grey color!

[@LadyPhoenix7777]

Nikkia Joy shouldn't it yellow and purple? Yellow and green are next to each other on the color wheel, while yellow and purple are opposites. Granted, green tinted yellows tend to be... unpleasant sometimes.

[@lspbeautea4791]

Nikkia Joy hey nikkia! Love you so much! ❤️

[@sjrockzLLC]

Ugh..she's annoying and literally screams in her videos

[@VioletIceFire]

I believe you girl! But if its hard for a lot of people to use it...even if they are using it wrong, or using too much pressure....I think at this point with all the negative reviews its going to affect the sales of this product...perhaps it would be of best interest for the company to try redoing it again? Idk

[@FuriedHearts]

Nikkia Joy ......ummmm no actually when you mix yellow with green you get yellow-green. SMH. Mixing colors shouldn't turn them gray/brown. Unless you mix purple and green or something weird like that.

[@tatyanakucharick2600]

Please go watch Stephanie Nicole's video on this palette. I'm so glad Wayne is being honest and not trying to trash this palette like every other YT. So much misinformation out there it's ridiculous! Talc does not cost less than Mica. Talc is just as expensive as Mica. Mica is a mineral that has more shimmer in it. Talc is matte. So when ABH wanted to create "ultra matte" shades, ofc they have the use Talc. The palette was made in the US, where no matter what concentration it is in, talc must be listed as the first ingredient so consumers know it is in the ingredient list. That does not equate to it being the most concentrated ingredient. MR has more filler and binding agents in it, which means less pigment. It will blend out to nothing. Subculture has less fillers, more pigment. Pigment = $$$$$$. ABH is offering this palette, with less fillers and more pigment for the same price as MR. So no, you are not getting ripped off. It's a technique issue. You can't swirl your brush around these super soft shadows and expect it to blend well and not have fallout. You need to barely just touch your brush into the pan, apply a tiny bit to your eye, pick up a little more, blend. I have this palette, I have had NO issues with it, it blends beautifully and looks gorgeous EDIT: WOW! Thank you for all the likes and comments everyone, that makes me feel wonderful that we can all have respectful, peaceful debates about the palette. We are all makeup lovers after all! 🙏✌️❤️

[@tracyerose]

Tatyana Kucharick wish I could get this! I put my makeup on like she does ( hooded eyes), no windshield wiper motion just packing, and thought these colors were sooo awesome

[@tatyanakucharick2600]

Tracy Rose It's such a gorgeous palette! You should check it out at Sephora and see if it's something you would like. The colours are soooo out of my comfort zone but I've been pushing myself and I actually love what I've been able to come up with!

[@reilly9840]

yes yes yes everyone needs to watch stephanie's video!!

[@katiefitzgerald7031]

I'm going to copy my question to you because I think you could help me! Just watched Stephanie Nicole's video saying very similar things. She was talking about using a very light tough and In her tutorial she was patting the shadows on her eyes. Could we still blend them out with a fluffy brush in circular motions or would that create patchyness?

[@leyla3742]

Tatyana Kucharick that's not true ..u said no matter what concentration is in palettes talc must be listed first...that's just not true cause ABH's mordern renaissance the very first ingredient listed is mica

[@MisCoco85]

The problem I have with my palette isn't the fallout, it's the way the shadows turn to mud or disappear when I try to blend. I have used other pressed pigments and never had that problem.

[@tatyanakucharick2600]

courtney mitchell The colours are opposite each other on the color wheel, so when you use an orange shade as your transition and a purple as your crease, and don't use care to keep them separate, then they will combine to a grey color. That's how color theory works. I suggest carefully placing each shade on top of the others without blending them both into oblivion. I have this palette, I have had no issues with the colours getting muddled

[@Supertrooper_00]

Tatyana Kucharick Yesss. I want people to go watch Stephanie's review because she explains this and so much more about this palette. Watch Wayne and then go watch hers.

[@carliemorgan1871]

courtney mitchell that's because you're using the colors wrong. When you use a color that is opposite of it on the color wheel, it'll turn muddy.

[@MisCoco85]

Tatyana Kucharick I understand that. But I'm not trying to blend two colors, I'm talking about one color. The yellow, I try to use in my crease and it literally oxidizing on my skin and turns to this unappealing brownish yellow color. Same w Fudge, it turns gray. I know how to blend and I am quite good at doing my makeup. So I know it had nothing to do w a color wheel or anything, it's just not a good formula. I'm not hating, I am not returning it, I'm just saying that the issue is more w the performance of the eyeshadow. Plus, I think Makeup should be easily achievable by everyone, to a beginner makeup user to a professional. When u start getting into having to explain and give directions on how to use an eyeshadow just becomes a little much in my opinion.

[@StephBSanity]

Norvina said the yellow isn't intended to be yellow, it's a mustard shade. So it's definitely going to show up more on the brown side. I totally respect what you're saying! But it's a really bold palette, so I knew when I bought it that it'd take extra work to get really good looks out of it. I also noticed that clearing a space on the lid with concealer is an easy way to clean up the overall look, as opposed to layering. For me, the neat thing about the palette is that it inspires me to play more with colors, because otherwise I go for the same shades and same ole smokey eye. Even if this palette was SUPER easy to work with, I wouldn't reach for it for just an average everyday look. I'd save it for more adventurous days. Anyway, please don't take offense! Your comment just stood out to me and I've been obsessed with hearing both sides of the argument so I just wanted to contribute some thoughts.

[@JuJuBeanez]

Finally someone speaking up about educating about the truth instead of Everyone jumping on the hater bandwagon

[@itsmebiiitch]

Out of context but I love it when he laughs it's so heartwarming!

[@alleyj826]

I agree about the fall out but you didn't address how this palette blends and how it's oxidizing 🤔 I would have liked to hear your thoughts on that

[@Stopthisrightnow560]

alexandra s Notice how every KZbinr that raves about this pallette can only ever say "there's fallout but every eyeshadow has fallout and that's not a problem for me".

[@carliemorgan1871]

Kirstie Hampton that's because they all have fallout.

[@Stopthisrightnow560]

Carlie Morgan Not to that extent, they don't.

[@sparkyy260]

alexandra s a

[@TheMrsmartiekid]

Just watch Stephani Nicole then.. the only trusted reviewer, she addresses all the points from fallout, oxidization and blending,

[@Sarika897]

These types of video really do separate the MUAs with real, professional knowledge from the basic beauty gurus who are just trashing this palette

[@2901rulez]

I'll admit it: I HAVE FOLLOWED THE DRAMA ABOUT THIS PALETTE MORE THAN THE AMERICAN ELECTIONS

[@celestecelestial90]

Anna Oberthaler It's more dramatic than our last election. Our nation is more divided now with this palette. Oh the escalation. 😂

[@musabahmad3231]

I love ur comment

[@2901rulez]

Sana Rashid aww thank u ❤️

[@fayna319]

Best comment I ever read on YT!😂😂😂

[@tasyabond8662]

Anna Oberthaler win

[@Artbug]

*Then this is a problem of false advertising.* Norvina said in the promo for this palette that these eyeshadows were both "blendable and creamy" if ABH is going to tell their customers the palette is one thing, and then sell them a completely different product, I don't blame them for being pissed. She should have sold the product she advertised.

[@RenRen2453]

The Domestic Desi that is simply not true. False advertising doesn't simply apply to quality, but also to the accuracy of description of product. Advertising pure pressed pigments as typical eyeshadow palette IS false advertising, especially when the majority of their customers who are non professional actually EXPECT a traditionally pressed eyeshadow palette.

[@cherrycakes2866]

They are blendable and creamy worked with MR palette....

[@caseyknows]

Artbug Have you played with it? Its extremely blendable and creamy. Its a phenomenal palette if you don't dip your brush in more than once. What I see thats happening is everyone has their brush packed with enough pigment to create 10 looks. I barely put the bristles in and I'm good. This isn't a Morphe palette. You don't need to swirl a brush over and over. Just lightly dip it. This thing is intense and blends beautifully.

[@natmarquetti]

cali starlet MR palette has mica as its main ingredient. This one has talc. It makes a huge difference.

[@Rhi-rj3tm]

They are blendable and creamy when used correctly.

[@mslily3311]

Hey Wayne, the biggest problem with her pallet was the lines that occurred when layering other colors. It's the wierdest thing, Not sure what the issue is with that but it's also occurring with the Prism pallet. It does it when Jeffree reviewed it and it happened when I used it. Have you noticed that? It's more with the browns. I'm a big ABH fan.

[@dcat5817]

YES! Thank you! Another thing- maybe because i'm a water color artist- These are mostly complimentary colors! Taking nearly raw pigments and mixing red and green (mannymua) Or someone else who was reviewing- mixing yellow/orange/purple- Will create mud!!! Brown or gray!!! It's drving me mad! Just because it's eyeshaddow- it dosen't matter! whatever media- whether it be watercolor- colored pencils- makeup- the same rules apply! It's still just pigment and filler! This palete was intended to be used with the MR palete- not really as a stand alone. LEARN color theory outside of blue + yellow = green ladies! Don't beleive me?? Mix purple and yellow on your arm- blend. Tell me what color you get. Any brand. Do it. Thumbs up this. I'm tired of all these dumb reviews about muddy colors.

[@DivaFondaXXX]

To the general public(not artists), whatever colors are in a palette are meant to be used together. People think they are meant to be a set.

[@ipetzombies]

D Cat That doesn't explain why one single color applied alone is so discolored in certain spots. That's my question and it's yet to be answered. Someone will apply one color and it changes on the lids but only in spots. It gets super dark and looks almost like it's sucking up the moisture on the skin and discoloring.

[@zongbyrd]

D Cat I'm an artist too, and I totally agree. Purple and yellow will turn brown if you mix/blend them together. People get super ridiculous about something so superficial.

[@Nungy_]

Queen Of The Yaks The eyeshadow turns darker in certain areas of your eye is maybe due to wet spots. After applying your primer wait for it to dry or set your primer with your pressed powder. Then apply the eyeshadow. :)

[@ipetzombies]

Vicktoria Phanthavong I've seen it with people setting their primer with powder too. It's a weird one. :(

[@lollypop6155]

Ok, Wayne, but what about the bad blending people are complaining about? You're only giving a minor view on this palette. I'd be more willing to accept your viewpoint if you did a whole eye demo like other KZbinr's did.

[@Ac2091-x1f]

Lolly Pop I would think because people pick up too much product all at once,you need to work lightly and add so you can control the color and be able to blend better

[@tianapirozzi4529]

Lolly Pop i think this was more about addressing everyone dragging ABH for the fallout and not a full review

[@lotus_dream]

They use to much product.. since this is pure pigment... too much product, wet primer, etc. Can make it hard to blend... this is not a beginner palette... There is a different between a high quality palette that require skill to use and a crappily produce ones.. people are mixing up these two types...

[@Mirage238]

Lolly Pop I think Wayne got a good pallet. Some people say that a part of the pallets have come out wrong from the fabric

[@saifai]

Lolly Pop I haven't experienced the blending issues either. But then I've been using pigment eyeshadows for years. Same reason I've not had issues will fallout. Nor have the eyeshadows oxidized on me.

[@barbarabrooks509]

Will you do an eye look on it to show that it does blend good please ?? There are so many people making videos and not being able to blend the shadows to make a good eye look

[@SmiLeLoVeDaNce1732]

Watch Stephanie Nicole's review/demo. She does a beautiful eye look that is blended well and that stands out.

[@GlamPajam]

also kathleen lights looks great and super blended

[@kiwigirljacks]

I think they made a mistake if they did go with a pure pressed pigment. Because Modern Renaissance was so popular and so easy for everyone to use (pros and novices), they really should have stuck with that formula. EDIT: or at least been clearer that this was a different formula/application, not marketed it and set the expectation of a 'sister' product to MR - that alone would have saved a lot of grief for themselves and consumers.

[@venuss2000]

kiwigirljacks ~finally! a comment I agree with. If many pros are having a hard time "working" with this palette, what does that mean for the regular make up enthusiast/lover who doesn't have an hour or more to do their make up in the morning?

[@kiwigirljacks]

Mona W exactly. If the average person wants a pressed pigment that will mean a pretty heavy application with minimal blending.. which is absolutely fine if that's the look they want (as with Stephanie Nicole's review - heavy application looks awesome on her but wouldn't suit me and my crepey 46 year old lids lol), but many don't. I think ABH should have been clear before release that this was more of a pure pigment and it would have saved all this craziness ✌️

[@kieramcgregor]

kiwigirljacks yes!!! I felt like the modern renaissance was powdery but workable and not as bad lol! I thought it was gonna be the same formula. It would make sense lol

[@zain5502]

it sounds okay in theory but if you watch Stephanie Nicole's video on this she explains how you can't have the same formula for different colours because different pigments have different molecules

[@kieramcgregor]

Zain Al Khatib ah ok I understand, at the same time we shouldn't have to treat an eyeshadow palette like glass though. I mean what if you dropped it by accident your whole palette would be ruined 🙈.

[@christieyvette.7605]

Ok, well what about how they blend? Yes they are pigmented and have some fallout because it's a "pressed pigment" but you left out the most important part!!! Please film a tutorial with live blending

[@michelle8824]

i just asked the same thing. i need to watch something good on the palette.

[@VHGBeliever]

christivanity go and watch Stephanie Nicole's video. She shows them in 'live' application

[@christieyvette.7605]

VHGBeliever thank you, but I'm interested to see what Wayne can do with this palette. He's a professional makeup artist with years of experience and no shade to Stephanie, I just don't know who she is and wouldn't trust her opinion as much as Wayne's for me personally.

[@lindatannock]

christivanity I asked the same thing too. I want to see someone I trust trying to blend and apply it

[@michelle8824]

i just watched that video stephanie nicole did and it was REALLY informative, i even subbed to her. it's worth a watch. i want to see wayne do it as well!

[@MichelleDenise64]

Feverishly? OMG LOL

[@Elizabeth-jv6pz]

MichelleDenise64 I'm still laughing about that 20 minutes later in the middle of the library lmaoo

[@alexisdykes5634]

MichelleDenise64 Right! 🤣

[@liapastohrias697]

MichelleDenise64 Omg, I'm still laughing at his comparison to someone "masturbating feverishly."

[@ΔήμοςΜετεώρων]

Had to google it

[@lacndpc]

the fall out isn't the issue for me at all. i use your brushes and i have tons of experience with eyeshadow they don't blend well and the oxidize.

[@Sparky7775]

lacndpc Amen! I tried with primer, without primer, primer a powdered. Nothing worked. I tried for 4 days with different techniques and brushes all with the same results. I sent it back. Sadly.

[@Sparky7775]

Oops that should say primer I powdered

[@Supertrooper_00]

Jennifer Kegley What primer? Is your primer overly wet?

[@lacndpc]

Jennifer Kegley I'm disappointed too. I have been using different methods and primers and spent 30 minutes on an eye look and finally got it to look presentable but it just doesn't work well. I'm going to keep it for collecting purposes. But I wish I loved it.

[@alleyj826]

Agreed, I wish he would have addresses that

[@pauladeen4564]

*I LOVE HOW BUTTERY THE EYESHADOWS ARE.*

[@kelleylmiller]

lmfaoooo!!

[@heidi_dato8105]

-dies- lol

[@wendythomas9361]

Hahaha! Gold!

[@Jendollla]

rotflmao

[@ivychickering4473]

Paula Deen bahahaha made my night

[@CrazyIntensity]

Subculture ended up being my absolute favorite palette ever and really wish that ABH would do another version of it. Best fall palette ever.

[@njb1017]

Oxidizing and blendability though, Wayne?

[@kieramcgregor]

Nadia Jehan he's obviously not properly used it yet otherwise he would know the palette isn't good.

[@Tiddles1968]

You should also watch the review Stephanie Nicole did on this palette. Very helpful.

[@pastelpinkhoney]

There are hundreds of good eyeshadow pallets out there so I'm gonna pass on Subculture. Seems like too much hassle tbh!

[@sharleecoulton2472]

Nadia Jehan it's not oxidising, it's all to do with the colour theory, the colour wheel. Watch Stephanie Nicole's video on it, she explains everything!

[@ipetzombies]

Sharlee Coulton That's not necessarily the problem though. I've seen a bunch of people go in with literally their first color and even with it being absolutely alone on their eye, the shadow changes color in certain spots almost like it's soaking up ANY moisture from the skin or primer and leaving it discolored in places. For instance, someone placing one single color in their crease over bare primed lid, but there's a dark spot or dark line where the pigment is discolored. That's my question which nobody had addressed yet. I've literally never seen a product do that ever.

[@maheemarizal1590]

Wow I got my pallete today and these reviews on KZbin and Instagram are driving me crazy......Thankyou for the review and information ♥️♥️

[@BrittanyHairston]

Can you do a quick look using the palette?

[@ABBADABBS]

Okay so even if it is a pure pigment eyeshadow palette then maybe the company should have told everyone before it came out. They should have said this is a different palette use different brushes and use a light hand also don't mix certain colors together because they will turn to the color mud. I don't think anyone should have to relearn how to put on eye shadow for one new palette that has come out. The palette is beautiful and after using it with a light hand, using the right brushes as well as not putting certain colors together it is a nice palette.

[@DohMkay]

You open up the palette, stick your brush into it, and realize its very pigmented, that's it. You realize after just one use, then logic should tell people that they should use light hand. That's why Americans are so dumb, you have to warn and tell about everything to them "these eyeshadows are not for consumption and not for use in private parts, and use light hand, also do no forget if you mix certain colors you might get different colors". Smh.

[@kariiiinaxoxo]

DohMkay lmaoo girl. You are so right😂

[@prisonbreakd]

ABBADABBS opposite colors will turn grayish when blended together, that's just color theory in art. it's not that they don't blend well, they blend so well, the opposite colors become gray. that said, i don't see any difference between this or modern renesaince palette, the second one is just as powdery to me and blends the same. and it's unfair to say they should have use a disclaimer, every palette I have is a little different, for example, none of my Urban decay naked palette metallic shades can be used with a brush, I always have to use fingers if I want a really shiny outcome, not even a wet brush helps, and they a ton of fallout, the balm ones have no fallout, but I have to pack them up, Inglot matte shades are stiff and require more blending while shimmery ones are perfect etc. I am sad people are having horrible experiences, but the palette itself is not bad, it's just up to preferences, I think. And if you don't like it, ABH will return you the money.

[@LLLadySSS]

ABBADABBS and she was basically telling people they can't do makeup bc shes like oh yeah u gotta use the brush like this and not like this. BIIIITCHHHHH????

[@ABBADABBS]

LadyS if the palette is completely different then any other palette it should have come with a brush that can be used with the palette. There never would have been such a huge problem with this palette if she had stated before the release that it had to be used differently then most other palettes. I don't think it is a terrible palette I just think that before the release there should have been a statement explaining the palette. You know?

[@itsashleyknight]

Honestly my only gripe with it is that it's said to be modern renaissance's sister. But this isn't a sister palette. It's pressed pigments and performs differently.

[@amandam120]

Yes but have you used the 2 together yet? It's beautiful

[@lawyerlee]

My thoughts exactly. ABH set an expectation this palette was never going to deliver on, and that wasn't a good idea.

[@cherrycakes2866]

I mix the eyeshadows with MR and Subculture and it came out good... I didn't compare the formula because they're not twins... They're opposite in color theory and the whole concept is really cool to me. I think it's take more time but I'm sure after the next production and when it's pressed it will be fine :)

[@Embalmher-vo5ob]

Exactly.. sisters.. not twins.

[@hanahboo7474]

But MR is beginner friendly and this palette isn't ?

[@IDontKnow-pf6en]

the fact that you and +Stephanie Nicole agree on this makes me incredibly happy, and much more excited about this pallette coming in the mail soon!

[@eudloq4037]

the problems people have with this palette are a lot more on the blending and patchiness though

[@tatyanakucharick2600]

eudloq that's a technique issue. If you swirl your brush over and over in a super soft shadow, you're picking up enough pigment to do 10 eye looks. You need to barely tap into it, apply it to the eye, tap in again, blend more. I have this palette, I have had zero issues with patchiness or blending. It blends beautifully, the colours are rich and gorgeous. It's absolutely user error.

[@kimberlee533]

Fun&FlirtyWellPast30 do you have a silica based powder that you can try to blend the shadows out with? Silica is a good texturizer to use with mattes. I mean you shouldn't have to add something to it to make it work, but it's something you can try if you don't want to return it.

[@MsAntigonaki]

eudloq the fallout is an issue, too... I barely tapped into the shadows with my Sigma brushes and there was shadow ALL OVER the place.

[@colleendarley9019]

Tatyana, This was my experience as well. No trouble blending. Less is more with this palette.

[@caseyknows]

Agreed Tatyana. I have it and I have no issues with it. I apply it the same as you. Its definitely user error. I have a lot of palettes but this one has got to be in my top 3. If you know what you're doing with this palette the looks you can get out of this thing are stunning.

[@andyquilla]

I was waitin for you to review it, so much drama for a palette is powdery but if you know is pigmented just takes a little touch and thats it. Your one of my first original youtuber that i truly love 😊

[@ashleyartis4878]

Thank you, Wayne! I love your honesty and all your reviews ❤ I love this pallette, I think the colors are gorgeous and a nice change from all the warm reds, burgundy and orange colored pallettes

[@saragarcia1129]

I'm sorry, the second I saw this palette I knew it was going to be extremely pigmented, and I little tougher to work with because of the colors. But that is what drew me to it, I'm in love with this palette it's so beautiful and unique!

[@StephBSanity]

I agree with you 100%!!! Nothing about 14 bold, grungy colors would scream "easy, everyday eye look" lol I LOVE playing with mine and putting in the extra work. I'm glad you love it too!

[@tj9813]

sara garcia you can tell by looking at it. im glad to see the reviews of a few pros who love it.

[@DivaFondaXXX]

Except this is in CONSUMER stores. Everyone is just supposed to know this? No, only those in the know. Many consumers just want to buy and use. They do not know any of this. And this is why people need to stop blaming the consumer.

[@lotus_dream]

DivaFondaXXX lol just return the damn thing if you want to use it.. If the company refuse to give out refund then we have a problem, but they didn't. The consumers are not always at fault, but they are partially responsible to know what they are buying. I waited until the reviews comes in and buy it. I have never own any make up that i dont like...

[@dananezat]

exactly. it is common fucking sense. the outrage and victimhood is insane. they are soft, highly pigmented and should be treated as such like natasha shadows, viseart shadows, and so on. the trade off is the intense color payoff of unique colors....something that is hard to get in a blue or teal or mustard MATTE. it requiers a little extra work, yes, but the payoff is worth it. it isn't an everyday slap on in the morning and go type of palette

[@essentiallysammie5209]

I LOVE this product. I have used it probably 10 times now and have no real problems. I actually prefer the mattes to the shimmers. I have almost zero fallout. Use a light hand and fluffy brushes and you won't have issues

[@moriishida]

How about the blending issue? According to soooo many youtubers, these shades can not blend very well on eyelids :(

[@nakiasutton6552]

you could mix the same colors in paint... and you get brown. Watch the video by Stephanie Nicole. She explains color theory.

[@moriishida]

stephanie lopez thats my point, thanks love.

[@AB-rx8kr]

Shin Lee I think it kind of ties in to what he's saying..the more product you pick up (and the harder you press into the pan) the more difficult it might be to blend because it is so pigmented. A little bit goes a long way, and it takes the right brush/pressure to get the job done correctly. And i will say the next thing with 100% respect to beauty gurus, but there's quite a difference between a "guru" and a professional. a professional will be more likely to understand and utilize the difference between the types of pigments and the way they are pressed more properly than a self claimed makeup artist. Again, I'm not saying that gurus don't know anything because they are typically very talented individuals, but they might not be as aware of it as a professional. This is just my personal opinion and I could be wrong but I just thought I'd give my input :)

[@moriishida]

Aria Bodden yeah sure. But there are sooooo many pigmented palettes like ABH modern renaissance, still, which is easy to blend. Anyway, different opinions existed.

[@ladybugger76]

Not quite. Blendability depends on what the shadow was made with. This shadow is now loaded with talc, as ABH changed the formula. Talc clings to the eyelid, and absorbs oil and moisture. As a professional myself, I can tell you that pigment has nothing to do with blendability. It only affects saturation. What the shadow is using as a binder DOES affect how well the shadow will blend.

[@BurgundyandBlue1111]

Not just regular fallout, but kickup to the point of hitting pan on day 5, SUPER bad patchiness (color is falling off people's eyelids), creating muddy looks (yuk), product appearing to oxidize (literally changing colors during application).....I feel these aren't just "normal" palette problems. There is something wrong with some of these palettes. Perhaps its just certain batches that were bad and people who love the palette have ones from the good batches and people who hate it have a palette from bad batches. People with knowledge, expertise (professional MUAs), and product lines of their own had problems with this palette. I hope ABH is paying attention. It's not worth my $42 to conduct such an experiment.

[@caseyknows]

I've created 5 looks with it using every shadow. No issues. Blended beautifully. Didn't oxidize. I also don't use a primer. Maybe primers are oxidizing it?

[@jenniferreed8103]

caseyknows I have thought the same thing. Seems as the primers are changing the pigment.

[@m_santo875]

Um.. Okay where do you think pressed eyeshadows came from?? Its powdered and then its machine pressed. Christ! people just love drama i think. Do you eyes first? ﾊｧ━(-д-；)━ｧ…

[@BurgundyandBlue1111]

+Melca Santos If fallout was the only problem, I think there would be fewer complaints. It's WAAAY more than that.

[@thisisnancy]

You're always so honest and that's why I watch you!

[@MelissaAnnBeautyandSavings]

I recently picked up this palette, I was nervous at first to use it but have loved every look I have created with it!! Love this palette!

[@AngelA-jc4rw]

please do a tutorial then teaching us how not to get that weird blend and stop the color from oxidizing!

[@sax1286]

WATCH SN'S REVIEW FOR THE TRUTH

[@sugarinmywounds]

Camilla Frederikke made a review where she found that the eyeshadows performed much better without an eyeshadow primer. You should go to her channel and watch it.

[@unfavored]

too bad it's impossible for some of us to use eyeshadows without in that case :(

[@melindamercier6811]

unfavored just apply a translucent powder over the primer and then apply the shadows. Any makeup artist worth their salt uses that hack to blend pigments better.

[@DaliaKhamis]

Miyako Fujisaki when you apply a pure color powder on a wet surface, it is ought to create that weird darker unbendable mess.

[@cinthiasalazar741]

I don't have this palette but please watch Stephanie Nicole's review for subculture...really informative

[@HereDiianas]

Cinthia Salazar Well I love her but also love other youtubers who are honest. Everyone is fighting over this palette but it seems that they did not receive the same palette. They do not perform the same. And when you have so many unknown customers who love your brand complaining about one product then you should listen because there is obviously something wrong with it. And if only makeup artists can use it well they should have sold it to professionals only.

[@LindahsxD]

This palette is basically to show who's actually the professionals and the amateurs. Haven't you noticed? Most of the people that gave bad reviews are mostly beauty gurus on YT and instagram.

[@iheartchewie]

Ok, but some of them are MUA's, and some just really love makeup and have gotten good at it and want to share their makeup creations with everyone. By that right, the "gurus" are your average consumer, and this palette was geared towards the average consumer, so it shouldn't be this difficult for the general public to work with this palette. They never marketed it as a pure pigment palette, or a Pro-Palette (for professionals), they marketed it as the "sister" to MR, a consumer friendly palette. All they said was "it's different", they didn't say anything about applying the pigments a certain way, using a certain type of pressure when dipping into the colors or the best way the blend them. They only said anything about it after the fact.

[@Msjsw74]

I've always been curious if Wayne is a true professional MUA. Like I've never seen his name in any print or visual credits. no work on other clients besides himself and/or friends

[@Neenerella333]

myfashionkills I agree that most of us don't need these crazy palettes every time a new one comes out. I rarely love all the colors in them. I like to see them swatched and applied by gurus and pro artists alike. I can tell when they seem to be blending for days to get the smooth transition(less blendable product). I can also tell if the color is not paying off immediately(grabs onto the brush, but is invisible when applied). I love Wayne, but I wish he'd do more closeup tutorials instead these commentaries. Especially on models of various ethnicities, colors, face shapes, skin compositions. For instance, I follow Jackie Aina, though we are different colors and ages, we have similarly shaped eyes and skin composition. I'll never do the Full Coverage Glam on myself, that she does, but it shows me how the products behave.

[@iheartchewie]

@myfashionkillz Um, I already said that the KZbin/ig makeup "gurus" were not professionals, and that they're just regular people who love makeup and like doing tutorials. Therefore they're also your average consumer. Not sure why you're coming at me for that? As for makeup brands NOT gearing their products towards the general public, that's just bullshit. Nobody NEEDS any of it really, but there are millions of people in the world who simply love makeup. And guess what? They're not all professional makeup artists! But they're who the majority of makeup brands sell to. Do I need or want to use every single color in a particular palette I purchase? Probably not, but that's not the point. If brands like ABH were only selling professional products to professional MUA's they would only be making pro-palettes, and you'd need to be a licensed cosmetologist to purchase it. I do agree that people shouldn't just blindly buy something without doing some research on it.

[@sax1286]

not ABH's fault if people are dumb and their skills sucks ass.

[@aishah0511]

But they don't BLEND nicely and that's the biggest issue

[@aisyahadilah2279]

Aa'ishah Sheikh-Ahmed because the shadows are so pigmented that they dont blend as well. You should watch stephanie nicole's video

[@caseyknows]

They do though lol

[@oliviaaugustynowicz666]

but it shouldn't be like that - Modern Renaissance worked like a dream no matter how much pressure you applied.

[@bellamia2005]

Mine has blended just fine and in fact better then most my shadows. Lightly does it os the trick.

[@Ethan.downunda]

Have you ever used the palette yourself? If you did you'd know that it does in fact blend well. Or are you just regurgitating information from a 'guru' ???

[@HeavenWhispers25]

Been waiting for your review!

[@virgofairy88]

I have the palette too and I love it. The only color that releases more pigment is fudge but I finding using smaller dense brushes (just pat once) will give you plenty of color. Blending is tricky but if you layer a lighter color on top it’s easier. It just takes some time but it’s really not a bad palette at all.

[@shelleypoo76]

Had it been explained like this, I'm guessing a LOT of people would have been ecstatic to receive this palette because they would have understood the VALUE of the product. When it's sold as "the sister to modern renaissance", people expect to use it as they did modern renaissance, and using it the same way creates excess fallout which causes people to think the palette is shit. That is the fault of Anastasia for not properly educating it's customers on what to expect with this product, and how to use it.

[@pastelpinkhoney]

shelleypoo76 exactly! And the Modern Renaissance is probably a lot of people's holy grail eyeshadow pallet so receiving something totally different would definitely upset people.

[@palacsintakat]

the colors don't blend and react with eachother to make weird colors

[@vanessasanchez3458]

palacsintakat because most of the colors are on the opposite side of the color wheel

[@palacsintakat]

lol no. A light shade + a medium shade does not equal a darker shade. That is not color theory, that is a chemical reaction. Try mixing red and light yellow with paint and tell me if you get dark purple lollll

[@carliemorgan1871]

palacsintakat yes. If you mix opposite colors on the color wheel, they become muddy/neutral. This goes for everything of color. This is basic painting info

[@palacsintakat]

The most common is the light yellow metallic and the medium red making dark purple. Tell me how they make dark purple instead of an inbetween shade like I've seen 9000000 times with people mixing yellow and blue or pink and green

[@reilly9840]

what color do you expect to make if you mix green and orange

[@frankieschmidtnj]

Thanks so much for posting this, I hate to see a product torn down unfairly. Love that you were smiling through it as well. So sweet. XOXO

[@SkinnyHeifer]

What about the patchiness?

[@pimpindymepiece]

SkinnyHeifer watch Stephanie Nicole's video about patchiness - the way she applied it produced no patchy look

[@SkinnyHeifer]

Isa I've watched a crapton of videos that had horrible patchiness. Can't be a fluke.

[@carliemorgan1871]

Alyssa Kidwell it's because ppl have different application techniques. They just dont know how to apply differently.

[@pimpindymepiece]

Alyssa Kidwell yes, I never claimed they were lying. All I suggested was to watch Stephanie's video- listening and watching how she applies may help ppl try another technique to avoid the patchy affect. I'm Not buying this palette, ever, but I still watch the reviews to compare

[@amandaf9653]

SkinnyHeifer I have this palette an love it I've had no problem with it being patchy at all I used smashbox 24hr photo finish eye primer all three time an set it with my kat von d lock it powder an I haven't had any issues yet.

[@sophiekilmer5828]

That doesn't explain why the shadow actually blends away, watch xsparkage

[@alexisarrizon6799]

oh my God! I love this palette. it's really beautiful I am totally aware that they are pressed pigments and are more powdery than a traditional eyeshadow. They also have insane pigmentation. I noticed many of the naysayers that tend to be complete rookies at cosmetic Artistry and have very little skill and knowledge of how to work with such a product. thank you for explaining this.

[@katattack2050]

Yay!!! You are like the second person to say this! 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼

[@lizettegaines]

😍😍😍 Thank you for your awesome review in the eyes of an artist.

[@soniasohi5013]

I absolutely respect your talent, videos, and ability to tell the painful truth in a matter of fact fashion without coming across as mean or a bully. Your channel is what keeps me on KZbin.Thank you for your generosity in sharing your knowledge. Keep up the good work!

[@Jennifermwb]

Modern Ren kicks up a lot too. My issue isn't the fallout or the powder kick up. I am more worried about the weird blending and the patchy application that is happening for a lot of people.

[@HappywifeTaylor]

Lorac shadows are extremely powdery. I still love it. I'm still going to use it. I'll pass on this palette though. Great video.

[@JBCori452]

Happywife Taylor totally agree and I'm obsessed with Lorac shadows. I just hate these colors.

[@YannaMUA]

I have the Lorac palette and this one. Yes the lorac is powdery... but this one is waaaaaay worst. At least the lorac doesn’t disappear when you try to blend out the outer edge.

[@burcuyilmaz6459]

I love your review! You're always so honest and talking about the most important content: techniques! Keep it up!

[@monaamor7514]

This is way i love your videos and reviews .. you really understand makeup and you know how to deal with it being a true makeup artist.. unlike other youtubers and girls from Instagram Keep up the good work 😘😘

[@amythomas0202]

Don't know if it's my phone but random patches of your skin looks a little yellow🤔🤔🤔

[@user-lr6yh7po4n]

Amy Thomas you're not alone I see it too it may be the saturation.

[@TracynTaane]

Amy Thomas for me too and I'm on my iPad,

[@amymcgovern1921]

I'm so glad you made this video as I'm having this with other palettes. It never occurred to me to try different brushes or a patting method to reduce fall out! Thanks so much!

[@Moca-Mist]

Hey Wayne! So I generally agree with you about 99.99% of the time but this time, were at odds. The fall out to me, though problematic is the least of it. Blending these eyeshadow were an absolute horror. There isn't enough emollients in the products so these eyeshadows can blend properly. Anastasia never had an issue with pigment. They're mattes are awesome so who told them to fix something that wasn't broken? The masses that predominantly purchase these pallets aren't makeup artists doing runway shoots. It's everyday people who genuinely love makeup. And when a "makeup" product needs a user guide on how to use it, there's a problem. When was the last time, Natasha Denona or Charlotte Tilbury had to release a statement on how to use their shadows?...despite the fall out. No one has ever complained about their shadows blending. The fallout with Anastasia's palette is just insult to injury, the main issue is the product blending. Hope you have gained better understanding.

[@memegbutterfly]

Let's see you do a look with it. Cause fall out didn't seem to be the only issue people were having with this one. I can only assume that the same people that got the first one thought they could use this one the same way because they were not told until later that you only need to lightly dab your brush in them via an IG story once the shit hit the fan. Just saying!

[@rotemp5838]

But as Samantha Ravndahl said in her review, why would ever go so heavy handed into a palette, let alone a new one you've never tried before? A general rule in makeup is go in with a little, you can always add in more. Every shadow behaves differently, even some in a same palette might have a completely different feel and application. Tap in your brush gently, go on the eye with a little bit. Needs more? Just add it. As an MUA that uses many brands of eyeshadow, I can tell you that with any shadow, going in with too much product will result in patchiness and in blending difficulties.

[@caseyknows]

I'm more in shock about all of these beauty gurus going so heavy in and not thinking "oh maybe i should be more light handed, these are pigmented af" than I am about the Subculture palette lol. I have the palette. Its beautiful. Performs beautifully. I almost want to get another one before they press the shadows harder honestly.

[@aprilcarney558]

Thank you for this review. You're the best at explaining this palette!! My modern renaissance does the same thing. I love your channel!! Hope you're feeling better!

[@lbo6050]

Wayne I'm sorry, I adore you but the fall out isn't even the issue IMO. These shadows *dont blend, they're very patchy, some don't even stick to your eyelid in places and some colors blend away to nothing*

[@sax1286]

WATCH SN'S REVIEW FOR THE TRUTH

[@PinkKoalas]

Lisa Boliaris yes that's the issue! We can deal with fallout but bad blendability? No we can't..

[@GlamPajam]

she liked it though

[@Kitkat-bk8pe]

sa x Stephanie Nicole isn't the be all end all

[@Kitkat-bk8pe]

JUST GOING TO LEAVE THIS HERE FOR PEOPLE WHO WANNA READ IT! "Hi, I'm a cosmetic chemist. Going to put this here for everyone (inaccurately) repeating Stephanie Nicole's opinion on this palette, or for those who have a phd in eyeshadow from the university of youtube... I'm kinda just done with consumers lecturing each other on why this palette is working as intended. It's not. This was not marketed as a "pressed pigment" palette, and really, all eyeshadows can be called "pressed pigments" if a mfr wants. It's a marketing term, because guess what: all pressed eyeshadows are pressed pigments. But I'm getting ahead of myself. Stephanie Nicole is lovely, and she does work with pigments in nail polish, but some of you have twisted her opinion into an odd platform from which you, yourselves, are trying to speak with authority on this formula. As BN pointed out, Stephanie was sharing her opinion*, which she made pretty damn clear in her video. She also *did not say that there aren't problems with this palette or even that she necessarily thinks it's good. She told people not to buy it until they can test it out. She also has her biases and misconceptions, because she is a human. There's a lot of back-splanation going on amongst consumers, saying that ABH intended xyz as a reason for what a train wreck this palette is, but the reality is that no one knew anything about how different the formula is, or how gentle you have to be with the shadows, or how badly/differently they blend, or how they change color on the skin until AFTER the palette was released and people had problems. ABH did not release this as a "pressed pigment" palette with disclaimers about how to use it. There have been palettes released by other brands that are actually called "pressed pigment" palettes--the Urban Decay Electric palette is one--and they do not behave like this. Seriously, I challenge anyone to find a large brand palette people like that was made this way on purpose that does not have some kind of disclaimer. Idk if any exist, period--disclaimer or not--because products as bad as Subculture rarely get released (and the fact that some people like it does not mean it's not a fucking disaster--trust me, everyone who works in a makeup lab is studying this train wreck rn). So this has nothing to do with the term "pressed pigment". Also, "pigment" isn't just one thing, and different types of pigments require different accompanying ingredients. Stephanie mentioned this in her video. If you're going to speak as a false-authority on pigments, you might want to learn what pigments actually are. The problem here is two-fold: a lack of binding ingredients (which are not put in eyeshadows to dilute them or make them cheaper--they're put in eyeshadows so that pigments, which do not naturally hold together, cling to skin or blend well on their own will hold together, cling to skin and blend well), and the extremely soft pressing. Those two things make for excellent swatches and terrible eyeshadows. Stephanie Nicole said outright that part of the reason she doesn't personally have a problem with the palette is that *it already suits the way she does her makeup*, and that people should not need to learn a new eyeshadow application technique to use a palette. Telling people not to use this palette the way they use every other palette because blahblahpigmentblah is absurd. That is not the palette working as intended. It's ABH doing damage control, and people, for whatever reason, rushing to defend them. This probably sounds very rude, but many people are presenting a misinterpreted second-hand opinion as fact here, and since this is my actual job on which I'm an actual authority, I'm over reading so many comments from laypeople speaking as authorities on eyeshadow formulation. I find these people rude af. You're not an expert. You don't know what you're talking about, and I find it offensive that on every single video there are like 20 of you giving a bunch of made up reasons why people who don't like the palette are wrong. To say that ABH didn't add "a bunch of binders" to preserve pigmentation belies a deep lack of understanding of how eyeshadows work, and in particular the types of eyeshadows with this formula--talc and oxides, essentially--which desperately needs binders. You know that "oxidation" people keep talking about? Yeah, that's not oxidation. That's what happens when you apply talc and oxides to the skin without the right accompanying ingredients. To address complaints about the swirl tests, it was to demonstrate how loosely pressed the Subculture shadows are compared to MR and other palettes that are considered "powdery". It makes perfect fucking sense. This channel destroys cosmetics every week, so if anyone was going to do it, it should be them. And also, as BN pointed out many times, this palette IS NOT PURE PIGMENT. Pure oxides, which is what most of the pigments in this palette are, are a fucking disaster if used on the skin alone. So yeah, sorrynotsorry, I'm just effing sick of this shit. Let me reiterate: repeating something from someone who sounds like they know what they're talking about does not make you an expert. Give ABH your feedback and let the actual cosmetic chemists work it out. FWIW, I wish ABH had done a stellar job with this palette, because I am sick to death of companies requesting the same 3 brown eyeshadow palettes. Sorry for the repeat comment, BN. I have to keep up with the "consumer conversation" for work, and I srsly want to rip my eyeballs out." THIS WAS NOT ME BY THE WAY

[@Rowina18]

THANK YOU so fucking much for this! Jeez, it was driving me absolutely nuts to see people on IG grinding away product from this palette and then reviewing it badly. Gosh, I can't believe how idiot some so-called "influencers" can be. Thanks Wayne! ❤

[@mynameisjorick3998]

Claudia_des_champs most people don't like it because of the huge amount of fallout, the way the color comes out is kind of different and patchy, and doesn't blend beautifully ...

[@Rowina18]

Jorick Sabugo yes, but Wayne is right: pressed pigment also does not blend seamlessly. I have the Urban Decay Electric palette, which contains only pressed pigments, and they also do not blend. So, what I'm actually trying to say is: either you're a pro, like Wayne, and you understand a product and judge it for what it is, or you're just an IG "influencer", and you really don't understand a product and just expect it to work the same way as any other palette out there.

[@Nour.001]

Claudia_des_champs IG gets me so mad, it's just a bunch of girls thriving for attention..

[@brookemelton6788]

Claudia_des_champs I am so careful with my palette and it's amazing!

[@EddyTheBetty]

Claudia_des_champs omg yes! When I saw some reviews my first thought was why the hell are they rubbing in so hard. Like of coarse there's gonna be fall out. Nicole Guerriero was the first I watched that said it wasn't bad and she got bashed for it and now Wayne. Good for them for keeping it real!

[@caydee9188]

24 hours in and I am obsessed with your videos... binge worthy! I have been a little sick so I have watched tons and tons... I never hardly ever leave comments but you are so happy and funny - your channel is "really really good" 🤓 I got this pallet for my sister in-law and she is an artist. Cracked me up that she grabbed the pallet and swatched on paper first😂😎 She loves the subculture pallet and created a beautiful look. AGAIN Love your channel. I am ordering your brushes today and I am so excited. 😆😆😆 I think I will get her a set too... for Christmas. I hope you have a beautiful day sir, you have made mine much better.

[@flaviap0479]

What about the blending? Or that "all star" shade oxidizing? Some people are saying that it only happens when it's mixed with another color or being applied over concealer, but that's ridiculous for one and secondly I have watched a couple of tutorials where that wasn't the case and the color completely changed. I'm just curious to know if you have tried them on your eyes and what was your experience with them?

[@Stopthisrightnow560]

Are you kidding? For that money you shouldn't have problems with fallout, blending, or oxidising. You just shouldn't. Other companies create pallettes that don't do that and they're cheaper.

[@amandam120]

It doesn't oxidize though. Many of these youtubers are just not real makeup artists and don't know what they are doing

[@ashleymonahan8299]

amanda maynard I've watched professional makeup artists work with this palette who have had it oxidize, not blend well, and overall just look so shitty. Even the owner of the company admitted to issues with the palette.

[@lolitabubbles26]

I've seen the issue. It's usually corrected by using a primer that isn't as wet. MAC pots and Urban Decay primer potion both work with the palette.

[@vanevanewong]

Then don't buy it.

[@MsVivid21]

I received my palette on the 28th of July and just used it today ! The swatches were beautiful and the fall out ...well it's not the first time I have gotten fall out from other shadows ...but besides that .... this palette is super pigmented and blended just fine I posted a picture on my story on IG today @vividj_mua super close up 😉 anywho It's a great palette !!!! Appreciate you Wayne💜💜💜💜

[@beautifulsimplicity9498]

Yes!! Thank you! You're my hero! I have not tried the pallet as I can't get hold of it, but i have been watching these people swirl their brushes and it is grinding me. Does not matter what product I am using, I pat with the brush first to see how much fall out there will be and how much product comes onto my brushes!! Thank you for your honesty!! ❤️

[@VasilikisBeautyTips]

I can't wait to receive my palette and create amazing makeup looks with it. The formula seems fantastic! Can't waitttt!

[@jennym007]

The voice of sensibility thanks Wayne. 🌸🌼🌸

[@allaboutthestars5365]

You are such a well spoken professional.. I've always enjoyed your reviews and just your channel in general is so helpful! Keep up the good work 😊

[@MelissaSue]

I understand what you are saying, and I appreciate your reasonable explanation. I also agree with you. However, I have seen several videos about the horrid results of blending these shadows. I understand shadows can get muddy with too much layering, but the colors of these shadows appear to be distorted when blended together, so extreme that the color and finish of the blended result does not reflect either the original color or finish of the pre-blended shadows.

[@Supertrooper_00]

MelissaSue PerfectRed Go watch Stephanie Nicole's review. She tells you why would they wouldn't blend properly and why they would become muddy

[@AllthePrettyPurses]

Um...these are not pure pressed pigments. The first ingredient listed on each shadow is talc.

[@susiflores4277]

Love you for being so honest and apparently knowledge in regards to pigments! Thank you for being the first one putting it out there and demonstrating other eyeshadow palettes! I love my palette I only pic up tiny amount a color payoff is amazing!

[@lindaloualou]

I just used this palette for the first time today and while I like the look I created, these eyeshadows are patchy and not up to par with the other ABH shadows I have. I don't agree with the statement that matte shadows are hard to blend. Viseart, Natasha Denona, Marc Jacobs shadows to name a few blend effortlessly. While I appreciate the pigment of the subculture shadows, something is missing in the formulation that would make them user friendly. After all, isn't that the point that your average person is able to use them?

[@Midorigan]

That is the least of Subculture's issues.... Patchiness, oxidization, it is just a mess. Also, if you are going to spend 42 dollars for a palette you have to treat like a special ray of sunshine just go to the drugstore, spend 6 and just work that instead. Yes, it's super pigmented but in an eyeshadow palette blendability is way more important than pigmentation. Just my humble opinion, tho.

[@cynthiav7984]

I have so much respect for you Wayne!! Always so honest and straight to the point!!

[@jaydizzle4854]

I feel the same way. There are many ways to work with this palette and if you get to know it a little it's a killer palette. People keep saying give us something other than a useless boring highlight palette or the same warm neutral red eyeshadow palette that I have in every brand. Abh came out with something visionary and some are being so over the top negative. I love it and all it's temperaments lol

[@britneeleighton]

Jayde Marquez I am in love with these colors. Had been waiting for these colors, especially the peaches, yellows, and teals together. Oh, I was so excited! I, however, want eyeshadow. I will be honest, I am not experienced enough or rich enough to spend $42 on a palette that has a learning curve. I want eyedhadows that I know how to use in colors that I love. So back to my little MUG wishlist I go.

[@jaydizzle4854]

britneeleighton I mean to each their own. What works for me won't work for the next person I've achieved gorgeous looks. I'm just saying I don't mind putting in a little more work for it. It's like that boyfriend that none of your friends like for you and your mom and dad wish he would just get lost, it may be a dud but it's my stud😍😂

[@ludoedica]

Totally agree with you, Jayde! The problem is professional make up today became so accessible that even total illiterates started claiming that the brands "owe" them something: a "perfect" eyeshadow palette, liquid lipstick, poreless skin foundation or whatever other innovation in make up. It's sad that people who have nothing to do with real make up work in the industry are given the floor to determine what is a realiable product and what isn't. The professionals though have different opinions - even in the film industry or theater palettes like this can be used for various looks that involve thinking out of the box. Instagram make up looks do not require such creativity... And don't forget that make up has never been for collectioners only. It's primary use, particularly for professional products, is in the industry. We, the amateurs, can only be thankful for having make up democracy today - all make up can be bought freely by anyone. There' re no secrets to products. But please, be respectful to professionals! They know a thing or two better than us. ;) It's not all about our own illiterate egos!!! :(

[@pastelpinkhoney]

My problem is calling it a sister palette to the Modern Renaissance, so everyone was expecting the same kind of shadows. If the majority of people buying it can't make it work and struggle with it because they aren't MUA's then in my eyes that's a fail. I'm glad I haven't purchased it.

[@judithjones1800]

Wayne, I love you, your honesty, humor, intelligence, spot on reviews, and so much more. You are an incredible person. Please keep on doing these videos for people like me who appreciate the excellent information you give (I dearly hope you get sponsors). I am at a loss as to why you wouldn't.

[@madelineenright6896]

It seems like the issues with this palette are less about the kickback, and more about the oxidization and the way the pigment isn't sticking or blending on skin

[@jbuggy67]

When I have a product that produces a lot of fall out, I put the product on my brush, spray my brush with setting spray (lightly) and then apply the product. No fall out!

[@juhiberi]

June Pixton I do this some of the time as well!

[@jessicafischer9865]

I just wanted to say that I've been watching your videos for YEARS and I've always loved your professional opinion. You're knowledge of how to correctly apply makeup is evident and super appreciated. I could watch a thousand different gurus tell me the same thing on a product, but you're genuinely unbiased and also consistent in the quality of videos you put out which are always so educational and have taught me more than any other KZbinr/makeup artist so thank you so much ❤️

[@Cherylebreaux]

Wayne, I have the utmost respect for you. My problem is that if this is a pure pressed pigment, why call it the sister palette to Modern Renaissance? Why not explain to the consumer what they will be getting instead of leading people to think they were getting a MR type product but with different colors. We all know that formulas change from color to color but this is a completely different formula than their normal shadows. If they came out with something new and innovative or just different from their norm, why not put up some educational tutorials or even put the right brush with the palette? It just seems shady to me that they rode on the coat tails of the Modern Renaissance success by marketing it the way they did.

[@netapp5486]

Why didn't you use it??? To make a Look? To show how it can be used as opposed to those other KZbinrs who are all saying it's shit.

[@karenfine5234]

I watch you because of your honesty! Stay honest Wayne. WE need much more of that in this world!

[@personman666]

thanks for the educated second opinion :)

[@andiaddimando7180]

One yt'er looked as though she completely hit pan with one use.. wonder what the heck she was using .. a knife brush?!

[@bellajean6672]

do you mean Alissa Ashley's video? That horrified me D8 I wonder the same thing. I know she went back into the palette a lot, also, but idk! Maybe it really was a bad batch :(

[@andiaddimando7180]

Bella Jean it was actually another girl.. I mean IMO a little dramatic to see that much fallout

[@rayanthonyrojas5542]

Wise man! Love that you're making a great point about pigments and the fact that they need to be handle cautiously. Def a fan of yours long term. Some of the bad reviews seemed petty AF for beauty enhancers who should be able to handle different challenges accordingly

[@1a141036]

If "pure pigments" blend like shit then.. sure

[@venuss2000]

1a141036~ Exactly! My Urban Decay electric palette doesn't do this...so ?????

[@BeausSnapback1]

Wayne, what do you think of the blend-ability of the eyeshadows? Saw a lot of youtubers saying that they are really hard work when blending xxx

[@jessicarose9687]

LOVELOVELOVE how you just get straight to the point and say what you think, FINALLY a video I can trust xx

[@rachaeljones4731]

I've been saying this over and over again and people just blow me off! THANK YOU WAYNE GOSS! This is not a beginners palette.

[@agnieszkader8603]

so can you show us how to use this palette? It seems to be soooo patchy., unblendable...

[@christaleesawyer9831]

I love you Wayne. I'm so glad I found your channel. I love how open and honest you are 💕 Hugs from Ontario.

[@tazzie2shoos]

I respect your opinion, but to really convince me I would love to see you actually applying this palette to your own eyes with no edits, I have not seen one good look with it yet.

[@nataliar9983]

O think people gets it. But how do we use it? Even the youtubers who liked the palette have creepy eye makeup. They say don't put pressure and they seem to do it and still doesn't look good. I haven't seen not even one good eye makeup.

[@leekitten]

NATALIA ROJAS Check out: atleeeey. She did an amazing eye look from this palette. It was her tutorial that made me want this palette.

[@emieestere8054]

Lee Kitten6 me too, great eyelook except my palette was a total mess. Horrible!

[@trishadrozdowski3798]

+Lee Kitten6 this, her look made me buy this.

[@megan7086]

Samantha Ravndahls looks were good. BEAUTY NEWS were both wearing it in their video today and it looked good. Atleeeey's looks we're beautiful. Watch the right people

[@babietam]

Lee Kitten6 I just saw atleeeey's video cus of your recommendation! I think the shadows were so patchy! Especially at the outer corner... I don't think any of her look would've worked without false lashes...

[@serinahaupe7182]

I recently tried this palette and LOVE it. Wish I would have tried it sooner. Yes, I agree that this applies just like every pressed pigment shadow I’ve ever tried, but it’s not hard to work with if you are prepared to treat it like the pressed pigment that it is.

[@karfitness]

I will change the name of the palette from Subculture to THE UNTOUCHABLE