The TRUTH About The Mirror of Erised | Harry Potter Film Theory

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Today Ben dives back into the Wizarding World of Harry Potter to try and solve how the mirror of Erised works, how it was invented, Who invented it, and why it's just as dangerous as the deathly hallows!
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@jasonmanchur2703
@jasonmanchur2703 Жыл бұрын
So if Cadmus created the mirror first then the stone, then I think he also created the archway in the Department of Mysteries! First the mirror to see his hearts true desire (kind of checking to see if he could eventually get over his lost love). Second the stone to try and bring her to him. And third the arch to take him to her.
@ginnyjollykidd
@ginnyjollykidd Жыл бұрын
That's plausible. And indeed, sad as it is, the veil claims Sirius Black, proving that the veil is a gateway to death.
@hk-4886
@hk-4886 Жыл бұрын
I think scb have a theory from a few years ago that the threes Peverells all created an item before they created the hollows. The first brother created the mirror and as a means to get what he saw inside he created the wand. The second brother created the veil and to access the dead he could hear through it he created the stone. The third brother created the pensieve and while using it he realized how convenient it can be to be invisible so he created the cloak.
@Cameraman407
@Cameraman407 Жыл бұрын
1. Boggarts 2. Thestrals 3. Dementors
@Cameraman407
@Cameraman407 Жыл бұрын
Jason - I was honestly thinking that too.
@Esterferreiradecastro
@Esterferreiradecastro Жыл бұрын
I think they made a theory on that like a few weeks ago
@TrensGemini
@TrensGemini Жыл бұрын
I'm rather ashamed to say I haven't cleaned my mirror in years. It reflects badly on me.
@ked49
@ked49 Жыл бұрын
👏 👏 👏
@ftbllguy2515
@ftbllguy2515 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@juliajohnson4080
@juliajohnson4080 Жыл бұрын
😂
@naomisrandomness8223
@naomisrandomness8223 Жыл бұрын
I have parents that had us clean all the mirrors like every month. They weren't even really dirty
@rubygracemoseley8144
@rubygracemoseley8144 Жыл бұрын
Good one 👏🏻
@goodsamaritangaming1997
@goodsamaritangaming1997 Жыл бұрын
The fact that this came out at the same time as the "If Neville were the chosen one series" makes me wonder. Im not talking about in this new scenario, but heres a thought. Do you think if Neville looked into the mirror in the original lore that he would see his parents like Harry? His parents arent dead, but they can't be the parents he needs.
@ForeverDegenerate
@ForeverDegenerate Жыл бұрын
Neville from the beginning of the book? I could see that. Though, if I had to guess what Year 1 Neville's Greatest Desire was, I would say it wasn't for his parents to not be vegetables in a hospital. No, I would think it would be similar to Ron's Greatest Desire. I think Year 1 Neville's Greatest Desire was to make his parents proud; to become every bit the Wizard his Father was and live up to his Father's Legacy. I believe if Year 1 Neville would have looked at the Mirror of Erised, he would have seen himself as a powerful and confident Auror, if not Head Auror. But I think Neville is the poster boy for why the Mirror of Erised is so dangerous and bad. Neville would have never gotten anywhere close to being a confident Auror if he had seen it in the Mirror because, as Dumbledore said, he would have just wasted away staring at the Mirror. But because Neville never saw the Mirror, he actually achieved his heart's greatest desire. By the end of the series, he had become a very confident wizard who fights against dark magic. He had, basically, become an Auror, just without the title and pay. But also, through his journey, he found a new desire: Herbology. And I think that's the true danger of the Mirror of Erised. The Mirror of Erised locks you into what your current heart's desire is. In doing so, it prevents you from discovering new desires. One of the greatest strengths of humanity is our adaptability and flexibility. The Mirror of Erised locks the viewer into one course and, thus, robs them of their adaptability and flexibility. Or in other words, The Mirror of Erised robs the viewer of their humanity.
@Septimus_ii
@Septimus_ii Жыл бұрын
I think not quite the same, but similar. For Harry it was simply the presence of his parents and extended family that he really wanted. For Neville it's his parents specifically being active patents of him - more about the actions
@anastasialarchanidou8239
@anastasialarchanidou8239 9 ай бұрын
I don’t think Neville would have found the mirror since Dumbledore would have never given him James’ invisibility cloak
@whitneyj9080
@whitneyj9080 Жыл бұрын
As soon as you mentioned "a gateway to the dead," it actually made me think more about the veil in the ministry.
@aaa-dk6jr
@aaa-dk6jr Жыл бұрын
Same here :)
@isabellarust3476
@isabellarust3476 Жыл бұрын
They have a theory about this too! Awhile back they made one about how the second brother may have made the veil as well
@AleksandraKloc
@AleksandraKloc Жыл бұрын
@@isabellarust3476 indeed i believe it does exist I think it was something like "the veil explained" around 6 years ago
@ObsessiveGeek
@ObsessiveGeek Жыл бұрын
They even use the exact same quote, specifically focusing on the word “veil” in that theory too.
@ZCisCool
@ZCisCool Жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing
@w0t3rdog
@w0t3rdog Жыл бұрын
Would be really interesting meeting a boggart. Like... how many people are actually aware of their greatest fear? How do you quantify fear? How many actually have a THING they are scared of, rather than let's say being ostracized, alone, abandoned, never receiving their Hogwarts letter etc. How would a boggart even try to become something like loneliness?
@Roozyj
@Roozyj Жыл бұрын
Maybe friends or family giving you the cold shoulder? I guess most abstract fears have physical components to them. Like, I'm scared of death and loneliness and losing control, but those can be manifested in a lot of ways. Natural disasters, illness, people ignoring me...
@yaroslavpanych2067
@yaroslavpanych2067 Жыл бұрын
1st: boggard does not target the greatest fear, it targets any fear that current victim is aware of. 2nd: loneliness? IMO, you are afraid it, only if you have it. So it will probably transform to yourself. But more interesting question would be: how exactly you fight it, how exactly ridikkulous make it laughing matter!
@natanoj16
@natanoj16 Жыл бұрын
About half a year ago I realised exactly what would be shown due to it coming close to home. The death of a specific loved one. Basically the same as Molly
@PhilBagels
@PhilBagels Жыл бұрын
That's a question I've always had. In the book, the fears are always of some concrete thing. But there are many other fears. And what if your greatest fear is a desk with papers on it?
@yawninglion1677
@yawninglion1677 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm scared of heights, I have no idea how that would translate into a Boggart or what a Riddikulus would do.
@redbeard5939
@redbeard5939 Жыл бұрын
SCB: We have a theory about who created an ageless magic artifact in the HP Universe. Fans: It's the Peverells isn't it. SCB: It's the Peverells. ... Fans: Never change guys.
@m1xd2323
@m1xd2323 Жыл бұрын
I think it would make for a lame story if they did in fact create all those ageless artifacts, especially because if they were THIS good, it would've been more widespread and they would've gotten credit in modern times for it. I have no problem with Dumbledore's theory that the brothers created the Hallows, but i believe it makes way more sense to think that the Peverell's simply observed/studied those ancient artifacts (the Veil, the Mirror and the Pensieve) and took inspiration from them to eventually create the Deathly Hallows, which in itself already is an absurd feat.
@edopronk1303
@edopronk1303 Жыл бұрын
​@@m1xd2323indeed!
@kaylapounds1359
@kaylapounds1359 11 ай бұрын
@@m1xd2323 not necessarily, because each brother has reasons for inventing them. But even if they did it doesn't take away that other inventions didn't come from Peverell's; the sorcerers/philosophers stone, the deluminator, brooms, any number of different creatures.
@whalefall413
@whalefall413 9 ай бұрын
@@m1xd2323 the main reason this happens is because that's the only likely conclusion with the information we have. If there was more lore about other great wizards with (as powerscalers like to say) the appropriate feats, I'm sure they'd be more than happy to choose someone else. At the end of the day they're making theories with limited evidence. And theory channels can't just say "maybe someone the lore hasn't revealed made the thing". I'd say it's already impressive that they can provide some evidence with somewhat reasonable assumptions (though I do think some of their theories don't quite manage it).
@MavenWalsh
@MavenWalsh 5 ай бұрын
LOL. Exactly. Everything leads back to the Peverells for SCB and their fans. Except that they don't. Not really.
@GamerLoggos
@GamerLoggos Жыл бұрын
Personally I think the mirror was even more dangerous for Harry than Ron. What Ron seen in the mirror was possible, he could use that image as inspiration to one day acquire that desire. Harry on the other hand can never have what his heart desires. The only way he can see his parents at his side is gazing into the mirror. The fact he comes back night after night shows how it had already sunk its hooks into him but Ron didn't return with him again.
@TheCiller10
@TheCiller10 10 ай бұрын
What Ron saw in the mirror happened, with thanks to umbridge
@matteoairaghi790
@matteoairaghi790 Жыл бұрын
I LOVED the theory about the creation of the Mirror, Veil and Pensieve. Can't wait to watch this video!
@ginnyjollykidd
@ginnyjollykidd Жыл бұрын
I would add the book that records all the names of witch and wizard candidates for Hogwarts. And the Sorting Hat. As much as we know about these artifacts, and the fact that they were around much later than the veil, mirror, and pensieve, we still don't know much about them.
@nondominis4359
@nondominis4359 Жыл бұрын
@@ginnyjollykiddexcept we do know that the sorting hat at least was created by the founders. It’s directly mentioned in one of the books that the sorting hat was Godrick’s. Idk about the book and quil, but those are also most likely created by the founders.
@AleksandraKloc
@AleksandraKloc Жыл бұрын
@@nondominis4359 actually I believe that there is already theory about that on the channel. I am not sure but i kinda recall that while Sorting Hat was Godrick's invention, the Book and Quill were Helga's.
@jonathankelly5353
@jonathankelly5353 Жыл бұрын
So, if defeating the mirror requires sadness or sorrow when shown the thing that your heart desires most, would that explain why Harry was able to "defeat" it and get the sorcerer's stone in the first book, since what he most desired was his parents but this caused great sadness because they weren't really there (and having the sorcerer's stone wouldn't bring them back, so he wouldn't want to use it, allowing him to get it from the mirror)?
@MerkhVision
@MerkhVision Жыл бұрын
Yes! That’s exactly what I thought after the video as well! Shame they didn’t bring that uo
@ForeverDegenerate
@ForeverDegenerate Жыл бұрын
@Jonathan Kelly It's much simpler than that. And it has nothing to do with Harry "defeating" the Mirror of Erised. Dumbledore actually tells us exactly how Harry acquired the Philosopher's Stone. And it has everything to do with the enchantment that Dumbledore himself placed on the Mirror: "Only the person who wants to acquire the Stone, acquire but not use it, can actually retrieve the Stone from the Mirror." Yes it's really THAT simple. Harry's only desire, at that point, was to prevent Quirrell from getting the Stone. He never had any desire to actually use the Stone. That's why the Mirror gave it to Harry. Because he satisfied the requirements of Dumbledore's enchantment.
@dustinmaxwell259
@dustinmaxwell259 Жыл бұрын
@@MerkhVision They didn't bring it up because they don't know. They're just throwing around wild guesses.
@dustinmaxwell259
@dustinmaxwell259 Жыл бұрын
No, Harry was able to "defeat it" because Dumbledore had designed it so that only soemone that wouldn't want to use the Stone would be able to retrieve it. That makes for a very short list, with possibly 3-4 people at Hogwarts matching that criteria. These guys are just guessing at everything. Sometimes they have solid theories, sometimes they're so far off the mark it makes my head spin.
@Dawid23_Gamer
@Dawid23_Gamer 10 ай бұрын
The despair due to the thing you see is a defence against the mirror in general, because it's a reminder that what you see is not real. I think it's similar to boggarts in the regard that simple laughter does not destroy it and simple sadness/despair wouldn't break the mirror, but pure anguish would probably incinerate the mirror if this theory is true.
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz Жыл бұрын
I always find it funny that Harry has a deep meaning desire and Ron wants to win the house cup
@ariannasantina
@ariannasantina Жыл бұрын
to ron it had meaning bcause he came from a big wizarding family and being the youngest boy too he alway got handmedowns, etc, never had anything he could call only his coming from such a big family.. he wanted to make a name for himself and have his own big accomplishments and attention on him whereas in his big family he often got lost in the shuffle. Its why you also see a bit of underlying jealousy sometimes with Ron and Harry where harry instantly stepped into the wizarding world getting lots of attention and fame, Rons desire makes sense when coming from the perspective of a young boy being overshadowed and lost in the shuffle. (but yea it is a bit funny at surface level like silly ron just wants to win the cup and be head boy at school lol)
@anastasialarchanidou8239
@anastasialarchanidou8239 9 ай бұрын
Also, unfortunately trauma in such a young age can mature you prematurely. 💪🏼👊🏼
@elementsfanfics3859
@elementsfanfics3859 9 ай бұрын
To be fair, it isn’t really just the house cup. Ron was the youngest Weasley boy. Bill was a successful curse breaker, Charlie was a dragon expert, Percy was prefect and later worked in a higher position in the Ministry of Magic, and Fred and George were two of the most popular kids at school due to their mischief and positions on the Quidditch team. Even Ginny was special in a way; she was the only girl. Ron doesn’t see himself in the mirror as just holding the house cup. He’s head boy, captain of the Quidditch team, and (most importantly) CONFIDENT. He doesn’t just want to win some trophy, he wants to stand out. To be worth something.
@ked49
@ked49 Жыл бұрын
They finally completed the trilogy. First the veil, then the pensive, now the mirror
@audiobookcentre1780
@audiobookcentre1780 Жыл бұрын
Omg were they created by the 3 brothers just a theory 😮😮😮
@ked49
@ked49 Жыл бұрын
@@audiobookcentre1780that is what they originally thought, the swapped the brother for the mirror from their original theory
@coolnerdlll6053
@coolnerdlll6053 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if it's possible to theorize about people's Mirror of Erised visions and their Boggarts, similar to theorizing about Patronuses. I think Snape's Boggart is a shampoo bottle. It's "pretty obvious".
@madikytta4764
@madikytta4764 Жыл бұрын
This is fantastic
@blackpoe66
@blackpoe66 Жыл бұрын
I feel like Snape's boggart is something he's already seen in person: the love of his life with his greatest enemy
@ked49
@ked49 Жыл бұрын
@@blackpoe66no, her death.
@adrianabenyusova2614
@adrianabenyusova2614 Жыл бұрын
​@@blackpoe66 Its a joke
@GubbiGap
@GubbiGap Жыл бұрын
This would be such an awesome video!
@JockenN
@JockenN Жыл бұрын
A huge flaw that always bothered me about Dumbledore's set up to get the Stone. "Only someone who wanted the stone but not use it could get it". If Quirrel wanted the stone not to use, but to give it away (to his master), it should still have worked for him.
@jypsridic
@jypsridic Жыл бұрын
giving it to his master is using it, just not for it's function
@Miss_Myth
@Miss_Myth Жыл бұрын
I've always thought the same!! The argument that giving it to Voldemort was still "using it" never clicked for me, although someone gave a different reason that did make more sense - to me, at least - the idea was that, since Voldemort's essence was within Quirrel, and Voldy was the one who wanted to use it, that created a barrier to Quirrel actually obtaining the stone. He gets halfway - sees himself holding it, like Harry does, rather than seeing himself making the elixir of life or handing it to Voldemort - but he's not able to get to the finish line and pull it from the mirror.
@NansJns
@NansJns Жыл бұрын
Well, Voldy couldn't actually touch the stone in the state he was in; Quirrel would have had to make the elixir to bring him back.
@conormurphy4328
@conormurphy4328 Жыл бұрын
Also I can’t believe that anybody who would try and get the stone for Voldy would be pure enough to not have a small part of themselves that would like to use the stone for themselves. Maybe people like Bellatrix or Barty jr but if wanting to give it to Voldy so he can use it counts then that stops them as well.
@ThreadBomb
@ThreadBomb Жыл бұрын
Ever since I've read the first book, I've thought that Dumbledore's explanation of how Harry got the stone was a lie. It doesn't make sense for several reasons. First, as @JockenN pointed out, Harry didn't want the stone for himself, but neither did Quirrell. Second, Erised is an enchanted mirror that shows what you desire. That's what it does. So how is it also a safe that can only be unlocked by the pure-of-heart? That's a totally different function. And how did Dumbledore put the stone in the mirror? Either you can just insert objects into the mirror, a function which somehow no one else had discovered (and surely a lot of people would want to go into the mirror, or else pass messages or objects into it), or else a spell was used to make the mirror serve a function for which it was not originally intended. So I think Dumbledore used a spell to hide the stone in the mirror, and set it so that only he, Harry, and perhaps a few trusted others could retrieve the stone. The reason he _lied_ about this is because he didn't want Harry to know he was the Chosen One yet.
@imjustelm
@imjustelm Жыл бұрын
this was such a brilliant and heart-wrenching theory. the second Peverell brother’s desperate search for a way to bring his beloved back hurts in all the right places, and everything he possibly created in his many attempts to do so is just so sad. my favorite theory yet!
@steveschritz1823
@steveschritz1823 Жыл бұрын
That’s a great point about the Mirror and boggarts. There’s nothing in the books about just how long a boggart lives, but since they’re non-physical like a ghost they might very well be immortal and if magically harnessed in a device like the Mirror i could see them staying forever.
@azyfloof
@azyfloof Жыл бұрын
13:04 "Using something somebody loves against them, I don't know what's worst than that" That was deep,and hit oddly hard 😮
@AbstractlyDelen
@AbstractlyDelen Жыл бұрын
House- hat stall of Slytherin and Hufflepuff Patronus- Sloth Boggart- I was recently bit on the face by a dog I was pet sitting, so seeing that dog lunging at my face is probably my boggart right now Mirror- me on my animal sanctuary, finally happy, cuddling all the animals I’ll rescue, not a care in the world
@malcolm32
@malcolm32 Жыл бұрын
This also explains why Dumbledore had the mirror and how he knew the Peverell brothers created the hallows. He had been collecting and studying their other inventions.
@madikytta4764
@madikytta4764 Жыл бұрын
House: Hufflepuff mirror image: my own wedding boggart: being alone and helpless
@ked49
@ked49 Жыл бұрын
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@brandibastian4193
@brandibastian4193 Жыл бұрын
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@SnarkNSass
@SnarkNSass Жыл бұрын
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@anonymousguy7005
@anonymousguy7005 Жыл бұрын
Patronus?
@ked49
@ked49 Жыл бұрын
@@brandibastian4193auto correct sucks
@CrimpyPlate
@CrimpyPlate Жыл бұрын
Gonna be honest, I prefer the theory you guys made a while ago indirectly addressing this. Where, yes, the Peverill brothers made other, more rudimentary versions of the hallows. But there, it was the first brother, Antioch, who made the Mirror of Erised, Cadmus who made the veil in the Department of Mysteries, and Ignotus who made the pensive. The mirror shows you your hearts deepest desire, and the Elder Wand is a way to achieve that desire. The veil is a one way trip to death, and the Resurrection Stone is a way to bring someone back from the dead (duh). The pensive is a way to go back into the past and exist completely invisibly, and then cloak allows you to do that in the present.
@zesley101
@zesley101 Жыл бұрын
Haven't even started watching yet I know this video will be great. Easily my favourite channel on YY
@stickfigtree
@stickfigtree Жыл бұрын
Didnt you theorise that the mirror was created by the same brother as the elder wand? The mirror to show you what you want, and then the tool to get it?
@jonasfilmstudio
@jonasfilmstudio Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I guess they’re two separate theories
@CommadoreGothnogDragonheart
@CommadoreGothnogDragonheart Жыл бұрын
Hey, this got me thinking about the Cloak of Invisibility and how it was made. What if it has Thestral hair woven into its fabric? Think about it. Dumbledore was able to see through it because he saw his sister die.
@insertclevernamehere1186
@insertclevernamehere1186 Жыл бұрын
Unlikely, otherwise it would be a pretty useless cloak. Besides, Snape couldn't see through it despite being a Death Eater for many years. Also, Dumbledore had been studying it for quite some time and likely knew how to recognize it. Though, it may be a blend of Demiguise fur and Thestral hair...
@bushrak2247
@bushrak2247 10 ай бұрын
This is explained in the Fantastic Beasts book. The demiguise is a magical creature that can make itself invisible when it feels threatened. The invisibility cloak itself would be made of demiguise hair.
@jb888888888
@jb888888888 Жыл бұрын
Ron got his heart's desire in one of the later books didn't he? Or close to it anyway. He was a prefect and might have become Head Boy if he hadn't dropped out between his sixth & seventh years, and he was on the Quidditch team and won the cup, even if he wasn't captain. Won the House Cup too.
@NRSessions
@NRSessions Жыл бұрын
New video idea: A theory on why Voldemort and his crew didn’t just cast Avada Kedavra all at once during the Battle of Hogwarts. They should’ve easily and instantly won that fight.
@emmab4587
@emmab4587 11 ай бұрын
I'd say it has something to do with how taxing it is to cast an unforgivable curse. People don;'t just throw them around,, it's that thing where you have to mean it and have a specific level of carelessness for humanity. Though I guess some death eaters would've been able to get there. Okay now I do want a theory video
11 ай бұрын
Also, they where a bit of political party, they didnt want to kill off all wizards, only a few
@purplegoose971
@purplegoose971 11 ай бұрын
I think it’s because that wouldn’t have made it so exciting. There was a lot more suspense going on in the battle of Hogwarts that probably wouldn’t have happened if Voldemort just started with Avada Kedavra. If everyone just throws around Stupefy, Expelliarmus, etc, there’s more suspense. I think in both the book and movie there’s more suspense about who wins
@kaylapounds1359
@kaylapounds1359 11 ай бұрын
Because of the chaos. Spells would be flying everywhere, potentially bouncing off each other, which could kill their comrades.
@abraham2172
@abraham2172 10 ай бұрын
Voldemort wanted to defeat and rule them, not to murder them. The reason he started the battle was to get Harry out of safety. If he wanted them all dead, he couldve easily done so after the battle when he brought Harrys presumaly dead body back to Hogwarts.
@definitlyarealperson7041
@definitlyarealperson7041 Жыл бұрын
I already know this video would be amazing! Love your channel!
@Jan_Koopman
@Jan_Koopman Жыл бұрын
I love this theory. I also loved your theory about the unforgivable curses. I would love to hear more from you about the cration of the Hallows and their prototypes.
@danielsantiagourtado3430
@danielsantiagourtado3430 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video as always! Your Theories always make my day!❤❤❤😊😊😊😊
@thegoatshead
@thegoatshead Жыл бұрын
I consider myself a connoisseur of deep Potter lore, but this boggart trapped as a mirror theory blew my mind. It has been a kind time since that's happened to me! Keep the deep cut content coming!
@indigoopal8417
@indigoopal8417 Жыл бұрын
"Instead of showing you the thing you fear the most, it shows you the thing you love the most... that can be just as dangerous" The opposite can be said about both. Boggarts can be good if you decide then and there to vanquish your fear once and for all. The mirror could be used for guidance, or something to work for and keep your eyes on. I love how in the series objects aren't just bad or just good, they're all of both. It depends on the person to take it to one extreme or the other.
@SweetSlytherinGirl-Jennifer
@SweetSlytherinGirl-Jennifer Жыл бұрын
Y'all never cease to amaze me with the creative theories you come up with. 💚
@danielsantiagourtado3430
@danielsantiagourtado3430 Жыл бұрын
Your videos always make my day guys!❤❤❤❤❤
@imsotired40
@imsotired40 Жыл бұрын
12 year long fan here! Hi! Love the channel and it's the main reason i still have/use KZbin haha I remember you guys talking about the pensive and veil before and I think they theorized they were created by the brothers. They also talked about the unfortunate curses being created by them. Now the mirror too. Perhaps also the hallows. My point here is that it'd be really cool to kind of combine all of the 3 brothers theories into one big theory and explore them.
@nathancase6485
@nathancase6485 Жыл бұрын
I love the science of magic these two put into words. Its one thing to say ''the wizard did...'', but the carlin brothers tell us a bit more of the how and why.
@jonasfilmstudio
@jonasfilmstudio Жыл бұрын
Wow! You keep making me get goosebumps EVRY TIME I realize where your theory is leading! How do you manage to do that?
@danielsantiagourtado3430
@danielsantiagourtado3430 Жыл бұрын
Keep up the amazing work!😊😊😊😊😊
@Lovesmusic0218
@Lovesmusic0218 Жыл бұрын
Love your videos SCB keep up the amazing work ❤❤❤
@chimera5588
@chimera5588 Жыл бұрын
Looking back on your original video on who created the Pensieve, the Mirror of Erised, and the Death Veil being the creators of the Unforgivable Curses I actually think that Antioch would have created the Death Veil to somehow discern how to truly make someone dead. That would align with him creating the killing curse more so than the mirror would have shown him just knowing the spell and using it.
@benjeffries2610
@benjeffries2610 Жыл бұрын
Yeah! Unified theory of Potterdom
@chimera5588
@chimera5588 Жыл бұрын
@@benjeffries2610 Now that I think about it, to truly conquer Death is more fitting then discerning how to truly make someone dead.
@the808songbird
@the808songbird 7 ай бұрын
Ok that line ending with "maybe that's just ridiculous" was beautifully written. Mad props
@karamullins1162
@karamullins1162 Жыл бұрын
Always love watching your theories, i have been watching your videos for a long time you guys are amazing and hilarious
@bluelemon243
@bluelemon243 Жыл бұрын
Here is a theory of mine i just thought: ollivander have an horucrux First, the ollivander shop is open gor more than 2000 year, it of course can be a family business but for such a long time it seems almost impossible i think, also its seems to work well with the tineline of the first person to make horucrux It can also explain why voldemort didnt kill him after he failed to explain harry's wand, act of mercy he usually doesnt show yo anyone who isnt a death eater, he cant In fact it may even explain why voldemort kidnap him in the first place, which always felt weird for me because when he did that, he didnt knew his wand and harry's wsnd shared core (which is weird but a fact i think) And it can also explain what ollivander ment when he said voldemort made horroble but great things Opinions ?
@audiobookcentre1780
@audiobookcentre1780 Жыл бұрын
Interesting who do you think he killed and what is the horcrux
@ked49
@ked49 Жыл бұрын
@@audiobookcentre1780his pet Phoenix
@blainbryan3244
@blainbryan3244 Жыл бұрын
I feel like the mirror would have been made by the first brother. He would have had the vanity to think of something like this. You know seeing yourself in all your "Ture Glory", and maybe finding the easiest way to get to that point or at least what that would look like.
@AdrianChazz
@AdrianChazz Жыл бұрын
Perhaps, the same way a Boggart is defetead by not fearing what you fear... the mirror is defeated by not wanting what you want... Hence the usage of it to conceal the Stone. He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named can't help but want it. So, the mirror would never budge to him.
@edopronk1303
@edopronk1303 Жыл бұрын
Yes! Great idea!
@AliciapTexas
@AliciapTexas Жыл бұрын
I have no Idea where you and Jonathon come up with these theories! It's incredible! I never thought about how that could be possible, but when you say it, and basically spell it out for us, it totally makes so much sense! (Can you tell I was born blond? LOL Luckily, my hair darkened into a brown ) Can't wait for more theories and more of Neville's story.
@balbert24
@balbert24 Жыл бұрын
I love this theory and it's the second time you guys presented it. To me this is Canon that the peveral Brothers created the Hallows and the mirror, veil, and the pensive
@ObsessiveGeek
@ObsessiveGeek Жыл бұрын
These three objects need a name similar to The Deathly Hallows so henceforth I bestow them the title; The Binding Truths. The major difference with these is i personally believe all three brothers created all three of these objects, though it was a different brother leading the way towards its creation. The eldest brother took the lead in the creation of the mirror to better see into his potential future. The middle brother took the lead in the creation of the veil to better see beyond his present. The youngest and wisest, took the lead in the creation of the pensive to gain insight into his past.
@boldbearings
@boldbearings Жыл бұрын
Carlin Bros knocking it out every time. 🔥
@micheax48
@micheax48 Жыл бұрын
I don't know what it was with this video but Ben just dropped the best intro to any video I have seen in a long time! :D
@MumboJ
@MumboJ Жыл бұрын
SCB: "Who created ?" Me: "It's the Peverell brothers again, isn't it?"
@SGomez
@SGomez 9 ай бұрын
I have no idea how you guys come up with these that is so amazing I was so shocked I never knew what that phrase meant written on the mirror until you said it it was just basically English but backwards
@avationmusic
@avationmusic Жыл бұрын
The video quality looks sharper! Did you guys get a new camera/lighting array/improve your colour grading? Keep it up Bros 😎
@Hp_pjo_twilight_hungerGamesFan
@Hp_pjo_twilight_hungerGamesFan Жыл бұрын
Idk how I have not subscribed until now I watch your channel so much
@saltyclampirate7397
@saltyclampirate7397 11 ай бұрын
One thing to consider is that in the chamber of secrets, when Harry looked into the mirror he did not see his family but a way to defeat Voldemort. He cared more for dealing the man that killed his family than seeing his family instead.
@pramodzachariah7190
@pramodzachariah7190 Жыл бұрын
Motto of the supercarlinbrothers If you don't know who made it, it must be the peverell brothers
@ked49
@ked49 Жыл бұрын
I mean they can’t be proven false
@audiobookcentre1780
@audiobookcentre1780 Жыл бұрын
I think that is what I think all the time
@jamesfry8983
@jamesfry8983 Жыл бұрын
What ive always wanted to know is how did the stone end up in the mirror in the first place.
@ObsessiveGeek
@ObsessiveGeek Жыл бұрын
The answer: Dumbledore
@stephanietory5619
@stephanietory5619 Жыл бұрын
That's an interesting theory. Thanks Ben.
@benwatkins7912
@benwatkins7912 Жыл бұрын
Great Video! Theory suggestion: Who did Filch confiscate the Marauders Map from?
@ForeverDegenerate
@ForeverDegenerate Жыл бұрын
If I had to guess, I would say from one of The Marauders during their final year at Hogwarts. Seeing as they were leaving Hogwarts, ostensibly, for good, there would have been no need for them to keep it. Also, the Map being a Map of Hogwarts specifically, they probably figured it would do more good to future students at Hogwarts than with them. Also, they, probably, figured their kids would go to Hogwarts one day and, being their kids, would, more than likely, end up in Filch's Office at least once. They, probably, intended to tell their kids about the Map. And I had to put money on who messed up and got caught, I would put money on Sirius Black. Why? Because as everyone who knew him from back in the day have said, he was the reckless one of the group.
@matthewbrick7539
@matthewbrick7539 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful analysis! Thank you!
@jonahlstrom4753
@jonahlstrom4753 Жыл бұрын
Nice one! Would not of thought of that connection .
@Nebula_o7
@Nebula_o7 Жыл бұрын
wow this was timed perfectly with my dinner for me to eat it to
@EzekEyes
@EzekEyes 9 ай бұрын
Forget my house, patronus, boggart, and what I see in the mirror. I want to see what my polyjuice potion would look like
@crimtanecreature8903
@crimtanecreature8903 Жыл бұрын
I've come up with a What If that I think would be very interesting. "What If Harry Potter Was A Squib". Would Dumbledore know when he was a baby? Would he tell the Dursleys? Would the Dursleys treat Harry better knowing he wasn't magical? Would Dumbledore still bring Harry to Hogwarts to learn about Magic and teach him to defend himself? Would Harry still have some of Voldemort's powers such as parseltongue? Would Harry still get a wand and would his original wand choose him?(Even though he wouldn't be able to use it). Would it be public knowledge that "The Boy Who Lived" was a squib? Would Harry still be put in Gryffindor? Would Filtch be kinder to Harry cause they're both squibs? Would Harry have more Astronomy, Herbology, History of Magic, Potions, Care of Magical Creatures, Divination(Maybe?) or Study of Ancient Runes classes instead of classes that involve using magic. Would Harry be taught how to fight without magic like with a sword, using potions or having pet magical creatures? Would Harry still go into the chamber of secrets and save Ginny? Would Harry still runaway from home and call the knight bus or meet Sirius? Would Harry still need to save Sirius from the Dementors? Would Harry still be enter into the tri wizard tournament? Would Voldemort still take Harry's blood and return? Would Harry be able to save himself and Dudley from the dementors? Would Harry still be allowed at Hogwarts when Umbridge becomes Headmistress?
@nightflame389
@nightflame389 Жыл бұрын
Peter would probably find out and Voldemort would try to go after Neville instead
@starblitzz7283
@starblitzz7283 Жыл бұрын
Stop spamming this comment
@crimtanecreature8903
@crimtanecreature8903 Жыл бұрын
@@nightflame389 Nobody would know he's a squib, not even his parents.
@crimtanecreature8903
@crimtanecreature8903 Жыл бұрын
@@starblitzz7283 No. I want to see the Carlin bros take on this and see what they do with the story. I won't stop until I see them make a video on this topic or see a reply from them so I know they've seen it and I can stop.
@prabkunvar10
@prabkunvar10 Жыл бұрын
​@@crimtanecreature8903oh my goodness....ur such a child!
@RandomPersonProbably
@RandomPersonProbably 5 ай бұрын
10:30 Aye y’all finally (kinda) talked about the Thestral/ deathly hallows theory! You guys should really make a dedicated video about it.
@HannahEvansOfficial
@HannahEvansOfficial Жыл бұрын
Love your videos
@lucifersdevilishdetails.
@lucifersdevilishdetails. Жыл бұрын
Question. What would the alternative Harry in your what if Neville was the chosen one would see in the mirror ?
@ked49
@ked49 Жыл бұрын
His family and him as quidditch captain
@mtgdragons7515
@mtgdragons7515 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this theory. Its logical so you could well be right about it. Keep up the good work :)
@edgarleft
@edgarleft Жыл бұрын
In a previous therory, you thougth that the first brother made the mirror of erised and the second brother made the Veil in the department of mysteries.
@ozzywidd7209
@ozzywidd7209 Жыл бұрын
Somthing I can't help but think over is how magic would work in a vacuum
@nathanbanks5155
@nathanbanks5155 Жыл бұрын
You actually made me think of a different bogart-related question. Are they naturally hostile? Is their ability just a defense mechanism, or can they do serious harm. I know they can kind of emulate a dementor's kiss, but would they actually succeed in getting the soul?
@edopronk1303
@edopronk1303 Жыл бұрын
Ooh, good question!
@AgentMarcx
@AgentMarcx Жыл бұрын
Kind of like your video on the Knight Bus being a transfigured Zouwu, I like the idea that some magical artifacts were created using magical creatures.
@timgravierjr.4241
@timgravierjr.4241 Жыл бұрын
I wonder... If a person's heart's desire is to know what his/her heart's desire is, would he/she see the Mirror of Erised in the Mirror of Erised?
@ObsessiveGeek
@ObsessiveGeek Жыл бұрын
Then they never find out what it actually is though
@brandonl2555
@brandonl2555 Жыл бұрын
It feels like these videos are just getting reduced to “here’s an old magical object and since most people only know the 3 brothers, let’s say they did it”
@Geist1337
@Geist1337 Жыл бұрын
SuperCarlinBrothers theory starter pack: 'Cadmus Peverell made everything'
@jamessmithson-br7rm
@jamessmithson-br7rm Жыл бұрын
Oh yes, thank you oncoming weekend. Another SCB HP theory!
@n00bxl71
@n00bxl71 Жыл бұрын
13:40 Ben: "But who knows. Maybe that's just..." My Mind: "...A THEORY! A FILM THEORY!"
@noelle_reads_alot
@noelle_reads_alot Жыл бұрын
13:39 I can’t be the only person who thought he was gonna say “ who knows maybe it’s just a theory A FILM THEORY
@rebekahscorner3367
@rebekahscorner3367 Жыл бұрын
I like that analogy of dating, it was my husband who got me into Harry Potter(I wasn’t aloud to watch it as a kid) and we grew closer because of it. I’m a hufflepuff and he’s technically Slytherin but he would have chosen griffindoor Edit: spelling
@petrichor499
@petrichor499 Жыл бұрын
Slizerlin?
@ariannasantina
@ariannasantina Жыл бұрын
lol so your husband is basically Harry? (the hat wanted to choose Slytherin for harry , thought he would make a good Slytherin, but harry 'chose' to be in Gryffindor and the hat allowed him to choose their own fate.)
@unLargoEtcetera
@unLargoEtcetera Жыл бұрын
When he said "maybe it's just...", I was expecting him to continue with "...a theory... A FILM THEORY!".
@ChocolateJ3sus
@ChocolateJ3sus Жыл бұрын
I like entertaining the idea that the invisibility cloak had the same limitations as thestrals. Just Harry sneaking around the castle completely visible to anyone that has seen death.
@Zukasaproductions
@Zukasaproductions Жыл бұрын
Gotta be honest, showing you your family you lost is an almost garantuee to make you cry.
@emafolo
@emafolo Жыл бұрын
I thought you guys did a theory where the pensive, the veil and the mirror were prototypes for the Cloak, the resurrection stone and the elder want respectively?
@SinaCupcake
@SinaCupcake Жыл бұрын
i think the way you can achieve what the mirror is showing you is by being indifferent to it, e.g. harry got the philosopher stone because he was indifferent to it and did not intend to use it
@danielrhouck
@danielrhouck Жыл бұрын
Some of this sounds like Harryʼs reaction to his Patronus lessons. Part of him didnʼt want to stop having the visions the Dementors gave him because his worst memory was also his only accessible memory of his parents. And I just realize *as I type this* that if heʼd actually mentioned that to Lupin, Lupin would have borrowed Dumbledoreʼs Pensieve that year to show Harry more memories of his parents.
@MithrandilPlays
@MithrandilPlays Жыл бұрын
I love y'all's theories that the Veil and Pensive are also proto-Hallows!
@amberbradshaw1461
@amberbradshaw1461 Жыл бұрын
Nice pun at the end, brother.😂
@UnknownRaccoon.
@UnknownRaccoon. Жыл бұрын
I think this is very possible and I think a way to defeat it would be realizing that that thing is something you cannot obtain which could lead to despair and sadness
@romansilva00
@romansilva00 Жыл бұрын
8:05 so having a headlamp comes in handy? Badumtsss Hahahahaha!
@elizabeths.3634
@elizabeths.3634 4 ай бұрын
How about a video on who created the time turner, how and why?
@howlin.wolf.murphy
@howlin.wolf.murphy Жыл бұрын
U could theorize Harry’s hearts desire was to die to be with his parents …. Foreshadowing his fate
@Black-Swan-007
@Black-Swan-007 Жыл бұрын
I think we need two other videos on what the other two brothers created first before their Hallows. Very interesting!
@ObsessiveGeek
@ObsessiveGeek Жыл бұрын
If only there was three powerful objects that all reveal inner truths
@Black-Swan-007
@Black-Swan-007 Жыл бұрын
​@@ObsessiveGeek Yeah, if only! Sarcasm aside, what objects did you have in mind? Clearly you've thought of something and if you say that the pensive is one of them I'll wring your neck. Do you really think there is only ONE pensive in existence? Dumbledore collects rare things but he can't have collected ALL OF THEM.
@ObsessiveGeek
@ObsessiveGeek Жыл бұрын
@Black-Swan1989 The Mirror, The Veil, and The Goblet. . . Only kidding The Pensive is the last one. 😝
@ObsessiveGeek
@ObsessiveGeek Жыл бұрын
@Black-Swan1989 Why not? Rich old eccentrics tend to have more resources to find valuable/rare items in real life too.
@user-cj7wk3ww9u
@user-cj7wk3ww9u 9 ай бұрын
I've recently understood, that if you only see yourself in the mirror, you are the happiest person in the world. Who knows, maybe the mirror on your wall is actually the Mirror of Erised, enchanted to look differently...?
@Harry-Hartmann
@Harry-Hartmann 7 ай бұрын
A Very Good Video 👍🏻
@christianmarshal6117
@christianmarshal6117 Жыл бұрын
I discovered that reverse spelling myself about 5 years after its publication while revisiting it. I was trying to figure out how theses words would Ben be pronounced and noticed some of the letters seemed to be in the wrong order, like the s following the h in wohs and then I started to notice some of the words were words in reversed so I decided to tru writing out the whole thing and was intrigued by my discovery. Then I immersed felt horrified and guilty because I realized I had written in my sister’s book without thinking but she didn’t care she was just likewise intrigued by my discovery and congratulated me.
@AHufflepuffAndASwiftie
@AHufflepuffAndASwiftie Жыл бұрын
Didn't you guys do a video like this before?? I seem to remember something along this subject . . . 🤔
@rkcpek
@rkcpek Жыл бұрын
My patronus is a squirrel on coffee darting around in the middle of traffic causing car accidents.
@dragonprinceaemond
@dragonprinceaemond Жыл бұрын
loved this vid 🤌🏻🤌🏻🤌🏻
@greenling.
@greenling. Жыл бұрын
As much as I love the SCB's theory videos I wonder whether there is any artifact left that they haven't explained yet as the three brothers' inventions. Maybe Harry's glassess 😜
@theycallmejodamo
@theycallmejodamo Жыл бұрын
I know this is a movie detail, but I also think there’s a link between the Mirror and the Veil. Because the Mirror looks like a gilded version of the Beil. So maybe there’s something there as well
@kambrieearl4299
@kambrieearl4299 Жыл бұрын
The Peveral brothers casually being responsible for 90% of the magical artifacts in the wizarding world
@rrrob19
@rrrob19 Жыл бұрын
I think once they should make a reference to MatPat’s outro. “But Hey. That’s just a theory. A Harry Potter theory. Wait, that’s not ours.”
@General12th
@General12th Жыл бұрын
Hi Ben! Nifty theory!
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