The Truth About The Studiologic SL88 Grand…

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John Mike

John Mike

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@Johnmike
@Johnmike 2 жыл бұрын
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@jonathanbobo722
@jonathanbobo722 2 жыл бұрын
As a pianist and producer, I tried the SL88 Studio at the store and HATED the feeling. The action felt very clunky and dead. It felt almost squishy like the hammers where hitting up against a foam strip or something. After trying both at the store I sprung for the Grand and I have never regretted spending the extra money.
@benallen5967
@benallen5967 Жыл бұрын
Couldn’t disagree more. MAJOR difference between the two. Huge. Definitely worth the money for the Grand.
@christiankennedy2212
@christiankennedy2212 Жыл бұрын
I paid the extra $500 for the Grand because I already got to try the TP100 in the Arturia Keylab 88 Mkii (same as in the Sl Studio), and it felt like a slug's ass! The TP40 in the Grand (like the bed in my Kurz 2700) has way more snap from the hammer mechanisms than the Tp100, making it much more comfortable for doing rapid synth stuff. 100% worth the extra money.
@JohnSk82
@JohnSk82 Жыл бұрын
I have a K2600X and I was about to get the SL grand because I need it for more live gigs and stuff.How do you find the actual response compared to K2600X / K2700 ?
@itshsilva
@itshsilva Жыл бұрын
Bought my SL88 in March 2021... today I found out that it died, out of nowhere. I tried turning on only via USB, and then through 9v/1A, nothing happens... I disassembled to check only the main board, and I see a red light turning ON when I'm using USB power, but nothing happens on the screen. I'm very sad about it.
@miso4life
@miso4life 8 ай бұрын
I have the same problem with Numa X Piano. It died today - after 4 months !!! After power on - buttons do not react or they react but it takes 5 seconds and piano has no sound. Totally frozen. Out of nowhere.
@marcelmaes5275
@marcelmaes5275 Жыл бұрын
Although I played my whole life on wooden keys, I never really understood the discussion about wood or (weighted) plastic. I think plastic can be manufactured to have the same weight as wood, but it's more the top layer and the hammer construction that really counts. Thank you very much for pointing things out.
@revp01
@revp01 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve tried most of the weighted key controllers through the years. Purchased 2 SL88Grands. Very pleased with them. Studiologic found a good compromise with this one. 4 zones, adjustable curve, decent software editor, great weighted feel, under 50 lbs in weight, multiple pedals, midi i/o. For the price, it’s really hard to beat this one. I’ve paired it with pianoteq and am very pleased with it.
@TheTerracide
@TheTerracide Жыл бұрын
The keys on the grand are also a lot longer in the inside. That means you have much more control on the velocity making it much more dynamic
@cinco.octavas
@cinco.octavas 2 жыл бұрын
Great video!! But wrong info bro! The sl88 don't have wood keys...the keys are plastic made... they only have a slim piece of wood, decorative wood...so they won't last more because of that. The structure is made of plastic... you can find many pics on the web...fatar tp40 wood is the model of the keybed!
@Johnmike
@Johnmike 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I know...I actually had this in the video originally...but cut it out in editing because I felt it would've made the video too long...because I went off on a tangent talking about all the different types of keybeds lol...but I'll be doing more vids with this board where I will be talking more in-depth about the keybed...
@michaos1
@michaos1 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, plastic is waaay more durable and moisture-resilent, so i'm happy that they used wood for decorative purposes only. Had VMK188+ back at home and loved the keybed (Fatar TP40GH - no stupid wood). The action felt very close to lighter upright pianos. I also didn't like Kawai VPC1 keybed for the fact they used more wood and keys were heavier and slower.
@alexr71
@alexr71 Жыл бұрын
With the TP-110 and the TP-40 series, Fatar has abandoned wood due to the deformations intrinsically linked to the material. The special plastic used to replace the wood has the same density and the same weight, and does not make you regret the previous material. Always remember that Fatar (or StudioLogic) keyboards are state-of-the-art handcrafted products, manufactured and assembled in Italy by hand. No Chinese crap! Even the plastics are designed and molded in-house in the Recanati factory. Each keyboard is calibrated by hand, through a long control process, in such a way that it's perfectly matched to the midi hardware or sound modules in which it's inserted.
@DojoOfCool
@DojoOfCool 2 жыл бұрын
I own the SL 88 Grand and love it, but I want as much of a acoustic piano feel as possible and think this one has it. I would like to try the Studio model at sometime to compare. Also like to check out the StudioLogic Numa X Piano GT which is suppose to be a even better keybed and be a full keyboard with sounds not just a MIDI controller. Thanks for all the informative videos!
@Johnmike
@Johnmike 2 жыл бұрын
that one is on the list as well...for me the closest feel to real is the VPC1 but it's $2400! lol
@nhaezer5121
@nhaezer5121 6 күн бұрын
SL88 Studio is one of the worst action I've played on a weighted keyboard.
@BrandonKraemerbk
@BrandonKraemerbk Жыл бұрын
I have the SL73 Studio and I like it... I don't love it... and the thing I like about it the least is... it's loud. The keys have a lot of bounce and the mechanism is just loud and clunky. So my question is... is the keybed in the SL Grand quieter?
@johnsuggs7828
@johnsuggs7828 2 жыл бұрын
I've played both and the wood keys do give you a different feel. In my opinion it feels more like an actual piano. For me, I don't need to spring for this version to own in my personal collection, because I'm not a pure piano player. I come from more of a engineering, rounded midi music creation background. So this would be over kill. For someone who is a pure piano player, this in my opinion is worth the it. Compared to some of the other 88-key weighted controllers in it's performance class, it's much less of an expense. Kawai VPC1 - 2400 Kurzweil PC3A8 - 3900-4000
@Johnmike
@Johnmike 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you on this...I would only spend the extra $500 for the grand version if I am a Pure Pianist....otherwise...95% of the population is going to be just fine with the Studio version...
@mollykeyzz8330
@mollykeyzz8330 4 ай бұрын
As a pianist l can tell on your fingering dexterity pls l would love to know your favourite fingering exercises????
@jonathanbobo722
@jonathanbobo722 2 жыл бұрын
I recommend trying both at the store if you can, before you decide on your purchase!
@BlackBirdTokyo
@BlackBirdTokyo 2 жыл бұрын
Been thinking about the SL73 but have heard so many issues around key failure. Have you had any issues?
@Johnmike
@Johnmike 2 жыл бұрын
Had one for 2 years…haven’t had keys to fail…they do “click” a little bit…but I also don’t gig around with the board or move it around a lot
@wilkopiano
@wilkopiano 2 жыл бұрын
Studio logic grand i am told by piano man chuck he had to really mess about with the velocity touch vectors when he midi’d up to a nord stage3 for the piano sounds AND same for keyscape vsts to get the right touch balance and if thats not granular enough then we have a problem. Or problem for those who just want to plug and play. Eg ive not had to mess with the Komplete kontrol s88 at all whilst midi’ing up to a nord or keyscape
@ispianist
@ispianist 2 жыл бұрын
I own the numa x piano GT. Is the same thing. You gotta upgrade the firmware first on the keyboard. Also the touch withing the internal settings. Is very customizable. I love the keybed way more than my cp88
@madisonsinclair5123
@madisonsinclair5123 2 жыл бұрын
@@ispianist wow, that's some endorsement. I've been going back and forth about whether to track down a quality used Kronos or go with the numa and vsts. John makes a strong argument for not getting locked into a synthesizer.
@ispianist
@ispianist 2 жыл бұрын
Madison Sinclair Yeah the Numa is been adding new pianos. They sound good not as good as the cp88 but it definitely does the job for playing live. Just beware when you use the daw via USB audio and use vst as USB. Your sound will have glitches. I didn't like that but I guess the USB is not powerful enough to do both functions at the same time.
@madisonsinclair5123
@madisonsinclair5123 2 жыл бұрын
@@ispianist hey, appreciate the reply. Is this glitch common among keyboards or specific to the numa?
@ispianist
@ispianist 2 жыл бұрын
Madison Sinclair Well the numa Flagship has its own DAW. You can use the keyboard to record music when use logic pro and or other music software. I am not sure if you are familiar with daw hardware. You should be fine if you are only using vst and external daw.
@KandMe1
@KandMe1 5 ай бұрын
Just got a Studio SL73 delivered this week. I love the feel. It’s a dream to play. Good to hear this. I have an 88 key but it’s a Roland. The Studio Logic is absolutely superior than the Roland, it’s a FP10. It is playable but the feel and output quality of sound is another level far above the Roland. Mostly been using sax and trumpet samples of Korg iM1 AUV3 App on iPad. The SL73 Puts out a much better result than the Roland by far. And the Aftertouch on SL73 is excellently playable, it brings out a superior sensitivity. I have 2 other keyboards with Aftertouch and this is the outstanding one of the 3. Roland is just a little cheaper and no Aftertouch. For the price the StudioLogic are way out on another level. A bit heavy but Roland’s are heavier and I like the formfactor more and also the 3 sticks rather than wheels seem better to use. The SL Studio is a dream to play compared and that is no exaggeration.
@joemegguh9298
@joemegguh9298 Ай бұрын
Just bought one 2 minutes ago with the magnetic plate.
@fuglbird
@fuglbird Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your excellent reviews. I'm appreciating them more and more each time I watch one.
@cozypiano4469
@cozypiano4469 Жыл бұрын
What is better for orchestral arrangements? Sl88 studio or Sl88 grand? I want a grand feel if sl88 grand has the same quality in playing the other instruments like violin, cello strings .. etc
@JamesSmith-j3p
@JamesSmith-j3p 3 ай бұрын
Had a question about the midi keyboard. What does soft,medium,hard and fixed mean? Was thinking about buying one. I'm about to take piano lessons was wondering what that mean.
@neelenpatten2959
@neelenpatten2959 7 ай бұрын
Would you say that the keys are heavier than the Arturia Keylab mkii 88 keys? Some users say Arturia Keylab mkii 88 has very heavy keys, so much so that you get tired when playing it! Does it happen with this one too?
@musicman102357
@musicman102357 Жыл бұрын
Those wooden keys and feel make all the difference if you play Classical Piano, so for that alone its worth the extra $500. No doubt I would like the feel better on the VP1 but not for an extra $1400. With that said my SL88 is being serviced because of an issue when I play the G4 key hard it wont sound again for about 5 seconds, soft touch no issues . The guy at the service shop did what he needed but could not figure this out so he had to call Studio Logic . Its still under warranty. Upon research I saw one other post on Reddit with a similar problem but no solution was posted. If I had to make one criticism it would be you have to really adjust the velocity curves to play fast repeated notes on the same key , such as in Angry Young Man by Billy Joel. I did not have this issue on other weighted action controllers I have played.
@beefing313
@beefing313 Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the honest review. Thanks 🙏🏾. I’m going with the studio.
@jonathanbobo722
@jonathanbobo722 2 жыл бұрын
The Grand is definitely a better board if you can manage to scrape together the extra $500.
@maxheadrom3088
@maxheadrom3088 Жыл бұрын
John, I got the Arturial 88 MKii but my mom did not like it that much. She rather play on her 1949 piano even though I got some speakers and even subwoofers. I heard the keybed is different on the Grand - not only the wooden keys. Do you think - from a pianist point of view - it's worth to buy the Grand or should I just sell my car and get a VPC1 from Kawai? Thanks! Oh ... where can I hear your music? I really like how you play!
@amitev
@amitev Жыл бұрын
The piano sound is great. What software are you using for VST?
@Johnmike
@Johnmike Жыл бұрын
Peculiarsounds.Com
@brunolacerda4611
@brunolacerda4611 6 ай бұрын
How does the keys of SL Grand compare with Numa Gt?
@rachelleannekaaihue925
@rachelleannekaaihue925 Жыл бұрын
I apologize I am not a tech savvy person. For this keyboard, you absolutely need a laptop to produce sound? This keyboard cannot just be plugged into speakers? I assume it doesn’t have built in speakers. Please correct me :). I am a classical pianist wanting to purchase a keyboard I can take to gig with!
@tuneunleashed
@tuneunleashed 4 ай бұрын
It’s a midi controller it has no sounds just a great Keybed and that’s about it. You need external sounds either from another keyboard, laptop, mobile electronics or a sound module.
@Yhuntermusic
@Yhuntermusic 2 жыл бұрын
Great review my guy!!!
@Johnmike
@Johnmike 2 жыл бұрын
Yes sirrrrrrr! Thanks rev! ✊🏾
@LeeNashMusic
@LeeNashMusic 2 жыл бұрын
I read a lot of negative comments on SL88Studios Keys making clicky/plasticy sounds and even single keys failing to work, so I am sceptic about getting it. Don´t you have any of those problems with the SL88Studio? The Grand version I think isnt worth it for the extra price for me. Maybe looking at the Kurzweil KM88, as it has a ligther keyfeel, as you say in your review. I porobably want to play in percussions in my DAW, so maybe a ligther keybed is better? So hard to decide.
@Johnmike
@Johnmike 2 жыл бұрын
Personally haven’t had keys to fail…however the ones in the middle have become clicky…km88 is a cool choice and definitely has a lighter touch
@miguelangelcrimson5670
@miguelangelcrimson5670 Жыл бұрын
Do you know how to configure the 4 midi channels in Cubase 12? Thanks
@ispianist
@ispianist 2 жыл бұрын
I own the studiologic numa x piano Gt and also the Yamaha CP88. The Yamaha has a great action but is not close to the key action of the studiologic. Just feels more organic and smoother.
@AbsoluteMusic_Man
@AbsoluteMusic_Man Жыл бұрын
I’m on the fence about either Studiologic Numa X Or the SL 88. It’s personal preference I’ve had midi controllers for years I think it’s time to buy a board with sounds at a reasonable price! Yamaha and Nord to expensive. I need the afertouch smh if the newest Modx plus had it I would definitely jump on it 😂. Either way I won’t go wrong with either boards! The keybed is so important. So I’d still have the best of both worlds. What’s your opinion on the piano sounds?
@ispianist
@ispianist Жыл бұрын
@PEEKempowered I am going to be honest with you. I am not that crazy about the piano sounds. It gets the job done I guess for live music. But the key action I'd say it has the best key action on a keyboard that I ever played so far. I haven't tried the Kawai ones yet. I had played Nord stage 3, kurzweil, yamaha cp300, yamaha cp88, yamaha motif xf8, and many other boards and no one gets closer to the key action of the Studiologic numa x piano GT. I am not sure about the regular version without the GT. Haven't tried that yet.
@AbsoluteMusic_Man
@AbsoluteMusic_Man Жыл бұрын
@@ispianist thank you for the honest feedback, as you said there are a lot of other options out there some of which you haven’t explored yet. Yea I was not to impressed with the pianos demos myself, but nothing beats the action on the bed. Our guitar center here don’t have any of the Studiologic boards AT ALL which is sad because I can’t play it myself! But you can bet your money on it they’ll have Korgs, Yamahas, Rolands, and Nords 🙄 so with that being said the reviews I read for the Studiologic Numa X Gt were phenomenal mostly all good. So yea being able to adjust the sounds on a fly is a great feature having the Numa X for sure for live sets. I’ve played on numerous amount of boards as well, but from what I researched that keybed is something special so thank you for your input I’m going to grab the Gt version, maybe they’ll come out with better sound expansions in the near future. But honestly I have a full arsenal of great Vst’s including Keyscape, Pianoteq, Garritan CFX Concert Grand, Ravenscroft 275 and more so not worried about the piano sounds I’m good lol. I appreciate you to the fullest ✊🏽. So for me I’m a gospel musician and having aftertouch, a great keybed and an awesome feel is what a lot of these boards are missing. I can be classical, jazzy, and neo soul ish. So I’ve made up my mind lol.
@ispianist
@ispianist Жыл бұрын
@PEEKempowered That's what I do with my studiologic. It does have a great interface where you can select and play to 4 different midi zones. You can mix midi and the internal voices. That such a great feature. I personally use vst. Keyscape is my main one. The mix of the studiologic key action and the keyscape piano makes a perfect blend.
@AbsoluteMusic_Man
@AbsoluteMusic_Man Жыл бұрын
@@ispianist bro I can not wait until I get my hands on it. I’m glad I stumbled across your comment that caught my attention lol. Man I was thinking hard today about what board I was going to be purchasing. I’ll let you know when I grab it and finally be able to fall in love with it ✊🏽. Definitely going to be game changing for sure.
@Nordwrld
@Nordwrld 6 ай бұрын
Sir I just bought the sl 760 yesterday.what cables to I need? 🙏
@towjam2359
@towjam2359 2 жыл бұрын
John Mike, how does the action on the Studio compare to the M-Audio Hammer 88 Pro? I'm looking for a piano action but as light as possible without falling back to semi-weighted.
@Johnmike
@Johnmike 2 жыл бұрын
I compare these two head to head in this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJbcpYGlq9lqh6M&t
@towjam2359
@towjam2359 2 жыл бұрын
@@Johnmike I remember watching that and came very close to pulling the trigger on the Hammer. Do you happen to know if that's the same keybed that's in the newer Hammer 88 Pro?
@Johnmike
@Johnmike 2 жыл бұрын
@@towjam2359 same Keybed but it’s graded action
@Johnmike
@Johnmike 2 жыл бұрын
@@towjam2359 same Keybed but it’s graded action
@Brandon_Conquers
@Brandon_Conquers Жыл бұрын
I love sl88 only thing is one of my A flat keys stopped working
@eyalcarmi3984
@eyalcarmi3984 Жыл бұрын
Hi John, thanks for doing this video. I also watched your Roland A-88 mk2 review video. I play my acoustic piano Yamaha U1, which I like the action feel (and sound) very much. 1. Which midi controller keybed did you better like, the Roland A-88 mk2 or the Studiologic SL88 Grand ? 2. Which of the two midi controllers, in your opinion, better mimics the acoustic piano ?
@dragonstone6594
@dragonstone6594 2 жыл бұрын
On the topic of customizing your controller. Is there a way to paint the keys to glossy black? And get the look of the Akai MPK Mini Mk3 Black Edition?
@Johnmike
@Johnmike 2 жыл бұрын
That would be dope…but I also think it would be very tedious as well…
@ghostfallen
@ghostfallen 2 жыл бұрын
Tedious is right. I did that with one of my Rolands and reversed the key color. You’ll have to disassemble the keybed, key by key, once you’ve removed it from the board. Then sand the finish off the keys then you can paint. Looked pretty cool when I was done, but I’ll never do it again.
@lbamusic
@lbamusic 2 жыл бұрын
How is this wooden action compared to the Kawai VPC-1? Is the VPC-1 worth the difference in price = $2400 vs $1500?
@Johnmike
@Johnmike 2 жыл бұрын
Comparison coming soon! 😎
@lbamusic
@lbamusic 2 жыл бұрын
@@Johnmike looking forward to it..thanks
@christophertheproducer4186
@christophertheproducer4186 2 жыл бұрын
I just bought one hour ago thanks for feedback
@jordanbrant6648
@jordanbrant6648 Жыл бұрын
Mr. John Mike can you please share a video on how to fix the keyboard velocity on the Studiologic SL73 ??? It comes out so soft and dim but my Arturia keyboard plays perfectly except it’s not weighted! This has been driving me crazy. Please help!
@soundtreks
@soundtreks 2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever tried the RD 2000?
@Johnmike
@Johnmike 2 жыл бұрын
yes...ive actually used it on a few projects...Love the feel...hate the piano sounds
@mollykeyzz8330
@mollykeyzz8330 6 ай бұрын
HI john pls which is better in keybed btw slgrand and native mk3 88
@SureFeelsGood
@SureFeelsGood 4 ай бұрын
how about vs the novation sl49 mk3 key feel?
@mollykeyzz8330
@mollykeyzz8330 3 ай бұрын
does anyone knowa how to factory set slgrand power went off on my laptop during an upgrade of frimware and everything not turning up anymore
@javierquilis
@javierquilis 2 жыл бұрын
Nice review. I have both of them (SL Studio and SL Grand). Best quality: SL Grand. Best investment: SL Studio.
@Johnmike
@Johnmike 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree!
@johnnylong2023
@johnnylong2023 Жыл бұрын
and in terms of feel /keybed???!! its a major differences?
@cozypiano4469
@cozypiano4469 Жыл бұрын
What do you mean by best investment? Is the Sl88 grand has lower quality in playing another instruments like cello, violin, strings..etc??
@tuneunleashed
@tuneunleashed 10 күн бұрын
@@cozypiano4469best investment due to the FACT that it’s a cheaper product and you get the exact same other than the Keybed
@mawulikp
@mawulikp 2 жыл бұрын
I bought the SL88 studio after watching your review. But I can't use the aftertouch even though it is on in the settings. Please, Can you make a video about how to use the sl88 Aftertouch feature with Keyscape, or Kontakt, or analog lab v ? My main Daw is ableton, but I also have Komplete Kontrol.
@Johnmike
@Johnmike 2 жыл бұрын
Dope! I'll be doing some in-depth videos with these boards soon! Stay tuned!
@mawulikp
@mawulikp 2 жыл бұрын
@@Johnmike thank you so much
@butchdresser6928
@butchdresser6928 2 жыл бұрын
Hi John, Another excellent review.Looking forward to your in depth review of these boards. I bought an SL88 Grand just based on your review of the SL88 Studio and I absolutely love this board. Although like you say, I was looking for the piano feel more than anything. I have an acoustic piano in my family room, but like to have this in my office where its accessible as I'm more apt to sit down and play. I would like to see some in depth on setting different programs and velocities etc. I also have a mixface and not 100% on how to make them interact like they are supposed to. Once again thank you for your informative reviews. Your my go to when I'm looking for how-to's or reviews on new gear.. Your The Man !
@Johnmike
@Johnmike 2 жыл бұрын
Dope! And yes I will be doing some deep deep dives really soon!
@EricKelley1
@EricKelley1 Ай бұрын
Love ya man. We all all have musical backgrounds. I got the SLgrand. Love it. It reflects an actual pia o action
@Johnmike
@Johnmike Ай бұрын
@@EricKelley1 yup!
@borisengelspro
@borisengelspro 2 жыл бұрын
You uploaded this video at the exact same moment this question appear in my mind 😅 thanks 🙏🏻
@Johnmike
@Johnmike 2 жыл бұрын
lolol NICE! You're Welcome!
@madisonsinclair5123
@madisonsinclair5123 2 жыл бұрын
John, have you considered trying the Studiologic Numa X Piano GT? The sounds in it are rather ordinary, but the unique and incredibly user-friendly color coded control system, which can control external midi sources, would make a great controller for live performing.
@HybridMusicians
@HybridMusicians 2 жыл бұрын
The Godfather of midi keyboards! ✊🏾
@jadarriusgibbs5523
@jadarriusgibbs5523 11 ай бұрын
Bro what is the black chord
@passsacaglia
@passsacaglia Жыл бұрын
Thaaank u! I have the VMK188+ as my base and a Nektar lx25 but need a more bringable piano for live stuff. Feels the SL88 Studio would be the best^^
@m_r__r_o_b_o_t
@m_r__r_o_b_o_t 2 жыл бұрын
You are a great player. Where would I get started to play like that?
@Johnmike
@Johnmike 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Grew up playing in church! So just ALOT of that…but check out videos from my guys Deyquan Bowens and Sean Wilson Piano here on KZbin…
@m_r__r_o_b_o_t
@m_r__r_o_b_o_t 2 жыл бұрын
@@Johnmike Thanks man. Will check those out! Appreciated.
@JCox964
@JCox964 2 жыл бұрын
Ironically I was going to ask your demonstration on this . I’ve owned the Grand for quite some time & own the SL73 as well. Both are great. Grand , I did get from a vendor for heck of a price though 😂😂😂
@Johnmike
@Johnmike 2 жыл бұрын
Dope!
@peter-kx9lf
@peter-kx9lf 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, How do you think this compares to the Keylab 88 MkII?
@Johnmike
@Johnmike 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty much almost the same Keybed…dynamics feel a little bit better…if I had the choice purely on feel..No software no control…I’d go with the SL
@awakenwithoutcoffee
@awakenwithoutcoffee 8 ай бұрын
I got mine (SL88IGrand) last week and I have mixed feelings! the keys still make quite allot of mechanical sound although they do feel "good" although a bit artificial/mechanical compared to my real piano (iBach upright 1910).
@ageshero
@ageshero 2 ай бұрын
Someone really needs to tap the Desktop stage module market, I can’t think of a single device that does Korg/nord abilities on a tabletop.
@edrumsense
@edrumsense Жыл бұрын
Hi, I have the SL73, and every... EVERY one who played it says that the keys are too heavy, even heavier that any steinway, I have plans to open the keybed and shave some weight out to make it lighter. is the SL88 as heavy as the SL Studio?
@Johnmike
@Johnmike Жыл бұрын
Pretty much the same action
@wootube
@wootube 10 ай бұрын
I tried the SL88 Studio and found the action unplayably sluggish and spongy. Returned it and got the SL88 Grand and it's WAY better. The action was lighter/faster yet somehow more solid too. Feels a lot more like a real grand piano. It's too bad because the SL88 Studio is a fantastic price, but the difference was not at all subtle for me. One was downright unusable while the other is quite enjoyable! (I wish I coulda saved the money instead haha)
@jordanrazowskymusician8178
@jordanrazowskymusician8178 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid.
@thomaspaul311
@thomaspaul311 2 жыл бұрын
It's not what I wanted to hear but you gotta respect the truth. Great ninja vid. Liked.
@Johnmike
@Johnmike 2 жыл бұрын
🙏🏾🙏🏾
@butchdresser6928
@butchdresser6928 2 жыл бұрын
Hi John, Quick question for you. I have the SL88 Grand and studio one..all my standalone programs like keyscape, pianotech etc the sustain pedal works great. it doesn't want to work in Studio one on any vsts..Wonder if you ever ran into that problem? Thank You
@maxheadrom3088
@maxheadrom3088 Жыл бұрын
Dude, as long as you play some music while telling the truth then I'm ready to receive the truth!
@GavinskisTravels
@GavinskisTravels 6 ай бұрын
Your vids are excellent, thnx!
@CharlesEDarko
@CharlesEDarko Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@Bishop_Grimm
@Bishop_Grimm Жыл бұрын
Thanks a LOT, I bought the studio 👍
@Septienjr
@Septienjr 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video! I also have a brand new vpc1 and have been considering buying a sl88 grand to replace a mint condition korg trinity prox but I’m having second thoughts if it’s worth replacing my trinity prox with weighted keys and those beautiful sounds. From the price perspective I’m not happy swapping a 90s $3200 trinity for a $1000 sl grand. Anyway, really looking forward for you to compare in depth your vpc1 with the grand both being marketed as piano replacements. Thank you and keep up the superb work you do!
@alextreme98
@alextreme98 2 жыл бұрын
Damn bruh, 01:40 vibbin made me sub to you
@Johnmike
@Johnmike 2 жыл бұрын
🙏🏾🙏🏾
@aefonta
@aefonta 2 жыл бұрын
I was really after a Studio SL 73 but I have seen many videos about the clicking keybed… (kzbin.info/www/bejne/oaiqdoCQndBkqqM) Also I use to have a Nord Electro 4 HP with the same keybed (Fatar TP 100 L/R) and I had the exact kind of problem with the keybed… Could you share you’re experience with the use and keybed maintenance of the Studio SL? Thanks for your videos.
@Johnmike
@Johnmike 2 жыл бұрын
yea now that you mention it...mines does have a click to it...not as bad as in that example...but it def isn't as "tight" as it was before...but I don't travel it a lot or use for gigging...so it doesn't get a lot of play outside of studio work...id imagine if I was traveling it or giving it more I might have more of an issue
@aefonta
@aefonta 2 жыл бұрын
Got it, thanks for your feedback! I’m sure using it for gigging so… I’m checking a light 88 as a Casio PXS3000 since there aren’t much 73 keys options out there.
@BlackBirdTokyo
@BlackBirdTokyo 2 жыл бұрын
@@aefonta curious if you go with the Casio. I played the PX-S3100 today and it was lovely. Had a pitch wheel too. But worried if it will have issues as a controller. I am looking for something to run virtual instruments in the studio and lite enough to play in the living room when I need a change of space. I was very close to buying the SL73 but reviews on the key issues later on have kept me away so far.
@aefonta
@aefonta 2 жыл бұрын
@@BlackBirdTokyo Hi. I haven’t bought any weighted keyboard yet. I’m also checking on the Casio CDP S(110/360) since the keybed is similar. I want the weighted keyboard to control pianos from my Nord, but it is not an urgent matter. I will post an update if anything comes up.
@cyclehavenbanks9851
@cyclehavenbanks9851 Жыл бұрын
Go grand or may as well get a semi weighted cheaper model, Cheap weighted keyboards are a no no for me personally. I've tried many before and its not worth trying to save the money.
@johnwalter564
@johnwalter564 Жыл бұрын
You didnt even prep that metal before you painted it . That hurt to watch..
@tbip2001
@tbip2001 Жыл бұрын
Ive got a studio and its an awful feel. Like playing in pudding. I did have a high end kawai digital upright and the wooden action is that is my benchmark. Ive never felt anything as nice as as real as that in a digital piano. From now on its kawai all the way
@EricKelley1
@EricKelley1 Ай бұрын
Love your channel, but I disagree with your assessment. I'm a pianist. I also have both the grand and the studio. The grand action is graduated. The studio is not. That means the grand simulates the weight of the hammers on a real piano. The studio doesn't. Oh I love my studio sl88. It's great. But for people like me who's primary instrument is a Yamaha C3. The SL88 GRAND IS AWESOME and well worth the money for a keyboard controller.
@malekkinos
@malekkinos Жыл бұрын
The studiologic SL88 grand has not wooden keys. It is just a cosmetic thin sheet of wood, glued on both sides of the plastic key.
@alexr71
@alexr71 Жыл бұрын
With the TP-110 and the TP-40 series, Fatar has abandoned wood due to the deformations intrinsically linked to the material. The special plastic used to replace the wood has the same density and the same weight, and does not make you regret the previous material. Always remember that Fatar (or StudioLogic) keyboards are state-of-the-art handcrafted products, manufactured and assembled in Italy by hand. No Chinese crap! Even the plastics are designed and molded in-house in the Recanati factory. Each keyboard is calibrated by hand, through a long control process, in such a way that it's perfectly matched to the midi hardware or sound modules in which it's inserted.
@malekkinos
@malekkinos Жыл бұрын
@@alexr71The problem is not the plastic but the fake wood.
@williamdiffin28
@williamdiffin28 Жыл бұрын
The Studiologic SL88 Grand keyboard feels solid enough, but doesn't always register a tone at low dynamic. But the layout of the connectors and the interface is the worst I have ever seen. The power button and all of the connectivity is behind the music stand (which you have to buy separately) so you can't reach any of it whilst sat at the keyboard. There are three little controllers on the left of the keyboard which are just in the way if you never use them. There is a pointless LED screen with a control knob and buttons directly between the foot of the music stand and the middle of the keyboard, which only serves to pretend that you have any control over the keyboard's settings, and otherwise is again just directly in your way when you're trying to read or annotate sheet music. And worst of all, you don't have any control over settings like velocity curve or foot controller function, unless you plug a laptop into the USB port. I thought that all of those functions would have been present on the built-in LED screen, but they're not. The LED screen just divides the keyboard into four, which function I will never have any use for. And then you plug in your Win11 Laptop, download the software and run it, and you get a 'Connection Failed' message. And then there is no support from Studiologic but to suggest that your USB cable is at fault and might have damaged the unit. How many times has a USB cable ever been at fault? And a faulty USB cable could only present a danger to the very lowest quality equipment. And then there is no community support but for a wobbly mobile phone video on KZbin with commentary by someone who barely speaks English, explaining which settings you need to change that weren't in the instruction manual and which will fix the problems that people commonly have with connecting the keyboard to a laptop. And then you change those settings and get exactly the same error message. The Studiologic SL88 Grand is the worst keyboard I have ever seen. It is a con. A nice-looking set of keys, but a controller with execrable layout, totally inadequate functionality, and intrinsic design faults that make it practically useless. I hate this instrument and I can't wait to get it out of my studio. Don't take any notice of this charlatan; he's obviously paid to sell this utter crap, and I fell for it. Don't make the same mistake as me.
@propmaster101
@propmaster101 2 жыл бұрын
Y pay 1000 dollars for a board with NO SOUNDS?? Y’all crazy😂
@tuneunleashed
@tuneunleashed Жыл бұрын
Why 2k+ on a board with sounds you won't use? Rather pay a board with no sounds why I can chose the sound of my choice without relying on the manufacturers that take decades to update their sounds. Yamaha still uses sounds from 2003 on their montage why spend another 5k on it lol
@zirantej1916
@zirantej1916 Ай бұрын
Hey! What the stand that you using? Thanks!
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