The Truth About Vinyl Flooring

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How will your new vinyl flooring hold up against temperature changes? In this video we conduct a hot/cold test and reveal the truth! Be sure to leave your questions and comments below. For links to purchase the products in this video CLICK SHOW MORE ⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇
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@HomeRenoVisionDIY
@HomeRenoVisionDIY 3 жыл бұрын
I know vinyl is hard to find right now, but for everyone thinking about their kitchen renos down the road this Truth is for you. Cheers!
@AmysArea
@AmysArea 3 жыл бұрын
What about in the bathroom??
@HomeRenoVisionDIY
@HomeRenoVisionDIY 3 жыл бұрын
perfect!
@valentinek.t3327
@valentinek.t3327 3 жыл бұрын
About to install my kitchen island. I want to use my roto hammer drill to make a path for just one wire/conduit to island vs using a jack hammer.
@valentinek.t3327
@valentinek.t3327 3 жыл бұрын
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY Is that a bad idea?
@billmccluskey6294
@billmccluskey6294 3 жыл бұрын
Will be doing the kitchen later on but not this year.
@Griffolion0
@Griffolion0 3 жыл бұрын
"If your house gets to zero degrees, or 250 degrees, might I suggest you move." This is the kind of sage wisdom I subscribe to this channel for.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY
@HomeRenoVisionDIY 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@BillWalters77
@BillWalters77 3 жыл бұрын
LOL!!!!
@BlackMan614
@BlackMan614 3 жыл бұрын
If you have a second home which you winterize the plumbing for the winter... it WILL get to 0 degrees centigrade or lower.
@cz982
@cz982 2 жыл бұрын
This really made me laugh
@aauden5930
@aauden5930 2 жыл бұрын
this is stupid. u cant get any results from a half our test
@stephenmiller6690
@stephenmiller6690 3 жыл бұрын
I retired after over 40 years in commercial flooring. This video is so on point. All true and all correct. Keep them coming.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY
@HomeRenoVisionDIY 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers Stephen
@Josh.1234
@Josh.1234 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah hard to tell what's happening, the framing square wasn't necessarily level.
@ManageableRapTactics
@ManageableRapTactics 3 жыл бұрын
They were photoshopped in post to be the same size
@brianbaldino3496
@brianbaldino3496 7 ай бұрын
what would cause a High Density SPC Core Vinyl to develope a crease at the end and seperate with a gap? it's from engineered floors.
@christinebidwell6262
@christinebidwell6262 3 жыл бұрын
I love how you give it to us straight, no bs. I'm doing a remodel of my bathroom and you have helped me so much. Was nervous about doing it myself but, you are a great teacher and helped my confidence. Thank you for making these videos.
@Studio271
@Studio271 3 жыл бұрын
@7:00 I have a manufactured home in central Texas, and I installed ~800sf of SPC vinyl planks (3.5mm Deco brand with "uniclic technology") in the main living areas a year ago. We lost total power for a full week during the big freeze in Feb 2021; the flooring contracted and came apart enough to create lengthwise gaps ~5mm in a few places, but luckily when we finally were able to warm the house back up, it all came back together cleanly and still looks great!
@michaelolive5070
@michaelolive5070 2 жыл бұрын
But this video states "we just proved it. SPC vinyl does expand or contract" . 😁
@alp2ccc138
@alp2ccc138 Жыл бұрын
​@@michaelolive5070This video proof absolutely nothing. Those vinyl amd porcelain they all arw prebaked anyway. Do moisture test.
@michaelolive5070
@michaelolive5070 Жыл бұрын
@alp2ccc138 I was being sarcastic 😁. I would NEVER take this poster's advice/recommendations on anything. He's a legend in his own mind though.
@PusaStudios
@PusaStudios 3 жыл бұрын
Another Canadian KZbinr making us proud... Doing it right! 2 big fans from Montreal
@HomeRenoVisionDIY
@HomeRenoVisionDIY 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers to Montreal!
@bobdobbs7828
@bobdobbs7828 3 жыл бұрын
I thought Quebec seceded from Canada?
@JasonBechervaise
@JasonBechervaise 3 жыл бұрын
@@bobdobbs7828 they tried, but didn't succeed.
@markhoffman
@markhoffman 3 жыл бұрын
Great information Jeff. Laughed when you said... "Don't go online, it's a lousy place to get information" ... Watching this video online. ✌️
@danielhammer7148
@danielhammer7148 3 жыл бұрын
What’s for dinner tonight? Vinyl flooring again!!
@HomeRenoVisionDIY
@HomeRenoVisionDIY 3 жыл бұрын
with a side of pizza and saw dust!
@EDBailley
@EDBailley 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@HomeRenoVisionDIY
@HomeRenoVisionDIY 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers Prophetess!
@EDBailley
@EDBailley 3 жыл бұрын
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY Cheers Jeff
@guyfournier
@guyfournier 3 жыл бұрын
Good one Jeff! I remember the blank stare I got when I told the same thing to the salesman that told me to put a transition at my doorway. My temperature hardly varies at all, so, why worry about it. Another thing that I love about my vinyl plank is how resistant it is to my dog’s claws or water from the snow that comes off our boots.
@edawadezz
@edawadezz 3 жыл бұрын
as a younger contractor i must say jeff, love the way your passionate about good solid building advise no matter what the topic. cheers to ya!
@NunYaaBizz
@NunYaaBizz 3 жыл бұрын
How old are you
@HomeRenoVisionDIY
@HomeRenoVisionDIY 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers my young friend. never stop learning!
@User-pb8pd
@User-pb8pd 3 жыл бұрын
I'm going with vinyl flooring, I'm so tired of cracked tiles in my 1930s house since the floors bounce. Vinyl is more forgiving and flexible. Thanks for the video. Also if tile gets wet and you can slip and fall.
@alexl6433
@alexl6433 3 жыл бұрын
I just installed 800 sq ft of SPC for my basement and absolutely love it!!!!
@HomeRenoVisionDIY
@HomeRenoVisionDIY 3 жыл бұрын
well done!
@Nemonyme
@Nemonyme 3 жыл бұрын
Any chance you can do a pros and cons on tankless water heater (especially for people living in cold weather cities)? Cheers on your amazing channel, - A neighbour in Montreal
@jarodolsen8955
@jarodolsen8955 3 жыл бұрын
Tank less water heater is going to save you money over a tanked heater in such a cold climate. However, you will need a high btu unit because the ambient temp of the water coming in is just above freezing (winter time). Hope that helps.
@tardonator
@tardonator 3 жыл бұрын
Depending on how cold and where you are, tankless is usually more expensive per gallon than water heater tanks. Tanks can use gas which is cheaper in the US for heating than electricity. There's also heat pump based heaters that are even more efficient and cheaper. There are gas tankless heaters which may be a viable in-between for you. The worst and least efficient would be electric tankless water heaters.
@AlexIliev
@AlexIliev 3 жыл бұрын
I was expecting you'd measure the difference in the length of the planks. There is more potential to see a measurable difference there, compared to the width.
@nickglover
@nickglover Жыл бұрын
Wood mostly expands and contracts across the width, not the length. There should be minimal change along the length of the board.
@notimportant3686
@notimportant3686 8 ай бұрын
@@nickglover but this isn't wood, it's vinyl, so if it expands it's equal in all directions
@doug590
@doug590 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate this test, although I was curious to see the measurement on the other dimension. I will be doing over my floors in my RV in the near future and now I know to search out SPC core! My RV being stored outside actually sees massive temperature swings. Thanks for the awesome Vid!!
@HomeRenoVisionDIY
@HomeRenoVisionDIY 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Cheers!
@TimothyLarson
@TimothyLarson 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see this, I'm installing ~1,600 sqft of SPC vinyl plank flooring in my house now with 1/4" expansion gaps around all walls but no transitions between rooms which is not recommended by the manufacturer (MSI) but I was thinking expansion shouldn't be a huge issue since I keep my home heated/cooled to the same temp year-round. This makes me think I should be ok.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY
@HomeRenoVisionDIY 3 жыл бұрын
It is going to be awesome Cheers!
@tdbone35
@tdbone35 2 жыл бұрын
If your floor has issues then you cannot file a claim against the company itself. ALWAYS FOLLOW THE MANUFACTURERS GUIDES. Now he does have some good points.
@jonk8600
@jonk8600 2 жыл бұрын
@@tdbone35 You really think they are going to honor a warranty claim? Cmon. Those warranties arent worth the paper they're written on. Even if so they cover material only, not the labor. Which is the cheapest part if you have a few boards buckle or get damaged. The labor to get to those will be many times the material cost to disassemble and reassemble the floor.
@mikescott7123
@mikescott7123 3 жыл бұрын
I am aware of a few situations where the flooring would experience temperature extremes ranging from -45C to +45C, such as using it in a travel trailer, or in a seasonal cabin that would sit unused in the winter.
@mikemill4519
@mikemill4519 3 жыл бұрын
Been watching jeff for years, funny and down to earth 👍
@isabelle3365
@isabelle3365 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. After watching your video, it confirms our choice, and we bought the 156 boxes of vinyl laminates to cover the entire floor of the top floor of our house.
@steve_main
@steve_main 3 жыл бұрын
I love you Jeff... 6:55 "If your house gets to 0 degrees or ta 250 degrees, might I suggest that you move" hahahaha! I have been saying this for years and every expert floor sales man says "nope you're wrong" told them to do this exact experiment and educate themselves. People love canned responses and if you just say you need an expansion gap for everything its easier to remember and teach. What this really is is lazy education.. Close enough information that if you error on the side of caution it all works, no need to remember anything else. I have always laid my LVT and LVP right to the drywall and have never had an issue yet and if it ever did expand 90% of the time it has space under the drywall!
@francksaysana
@francksaysana 3 жыл бұрын
Jeff is the best :-) I now install vinyls in all kitchen and bathroom. Plus is not messy and painful compare to ceramic when is time for demo. Plus vendor warranties are 25 years or even lifetime
@HomeRenoVisionDIY
@HomeRenoVisionDIY 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers Frank
@117moose
@117moose 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jeff
@BradStevenson-oy2tt
@BradStevenson-oy2tt 6 ай бұрын
The product you're reviewing is definitely a good product type for areas that go from extreme cold to extreme heat. Which is something New Zealand known for. Heatpump (air conditioner) cant always keep up with our ten seasons in one day whether or compensate for how cold it can get even though the suns so hot that one corner of your house has turned into a greenhouse. There's not too many corners that can be cut when installing flooring in NZ. Even the climate can be different 30mins up the road. As good as the product is for most conditions the movement in them should still be accounted for. With skirting boards off, and a 3mm gap I've had no problems. Basic rule with them is go under whatever you can, don't cut the main field in too tight, and then you'll get away with cutting in the odd bits here and there tight without issues. Video is on point, and reliable information like usual.
@leoq4498
@leoq4498 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting experiment but it would'nt it have been better to measure the expansion/contraction lengthwise? A 2% expansion would be very significant in 30 feet, but barely noticeable in the few inches you tested.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY
@HomeRenoVisionDIY 3 жыл бұрын
vinyl does not have a grain so it would have the same growth potential in each direction. you can always try it for yourself. Cheers!
@leoq4498
@leoq4498 3 жыл бұрын
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY not because of grain, but because expansion is more noticeable in a longer distance. Great video by the way. Regards!
@ruffryder13
@ruffryder13 3 жыл бұрын
Leo isn't saying that the growth is different in different directions. He's saying 2% expansion/contraction is less significant over a short distance than a long distance, like wall to wall. Measuring the longer distance would produce more of a change in dimension, and be more informative.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY
@HomeRenoVisionDIY 3 жыл бұрын
I get it however 2% over 20 ft is still not what you will see in a hot room.
@michaelolive5070
@michaelolive5070 2 жыл бұрын
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY scientific data that informed us of both the thermal AND humidity co-efficients of expansion of various flooring materials would be informative. The biggest issue with (wood based) laminate is water, and to a much lesser degree moisture, exposure. So in this regard vinyl is superior to wood laminate.
@GCraigmile
@GCraigmile 3 жыл бұрын
Thank You!! I just installed this in a bathroom Build. 👍👍👍👍👍👍
@HomeRenoVisionDIY
@HomeRenoVisionDIY 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic!
@marriedGary
@marriedGary 3 жыл бұрын
Also loving the electrical tape bandaid.
@robreiser7242
@robreiser7242 3 жыл бұрын
Loved the video and test. Please keep them coming for anything
@gregdaniels3347
@gregdaniels3347 3 жыл бұрын
You needed to show us the long edge!
@JC-dz6qo
@JC-dz6qo 3 жыл бұрын
Why?
@johnmurphy9688
@johnmurphy9688 3 жыл бұрын
@@JC-dz6qo to see if the planks get longer in length. He only checked them ,width wise.
@steevejuneau7134
@steevejuneau7134 3 жыл бұрын
@@JC-dz6qo I never had an opening gap witdth wise, but a couple length wise.
@readerchick1
@readerchick1 3 жыл бұрын
This doesn’t have a grain direction. If it’s going to expand or contract, it’ll do it all over not just along the length.
@steevejuneau7134
@steevejuneau7134 3 жыл бұрын
@@readerchick1 Exactly, that's why we need to compare length wide. Assuming 1/64 inch of dilation per foot, width wise for 6 inch the width will vary by 1/128 inch, which is hard to see. However, lengthwise for 3 feet planks the dilation will be 3/64, almost 1/8 of an inch, that's considerable. That's why long edge never gabs. The dilation is less and there is 36 inch of material to keep the planks together. However, the short edge, the dilation is much bigger and the quantity of material to keep the planks together is much smaller.
@abduktedtemplar
@abduktedtemplar 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for putting your number out there for call in help during the Texas freeze. I almost listened to your advice to turn off my main line, fortunately only the pvc pipes by the water softener in the garage busted.
@billbovee1705
@billbovee1705 3 жыл бұрын
This is excellent as always - Thank you 1000% Please create a gutter DIY video.. I need to install 'em and want your take! You Rock bro!!! I watch all your stuff first - You and ProjectFarm
@mattv5281
@mattv5281 3 жыл бұрын
Wood expands and contracts mainly just because of changes in humidity, not so much temperature. But it's still attached to the house, so it won't shift much relative to the subfloor.
@alphaohm4837
@alphaohm4837 4 ай бұрын
In my opinion, it’s OK to freehand if you have the eye for it and steady hand and you leave expansion gap of at least quarter inch. This depends on how much flooring you’re putting down (a hall way 4 feet wide or ballroom) it could be more. Remember, it’s not natural wood expansion .
@mmmviv
@mmmviv 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your videos. They help me make informed decisions and have a better knowledge base when I talk to handyman or contractors. So valuable
@dubCanuck1
@dubCanuck1 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Just doing my basement and wanted to do vinyl simply for water resistance and no seam puffing.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY
@HomeRenoVisionDIY 3 жыл бұрын
nice
@danieljensen1465
@danieljensen1465 3 жыл бұрын
Great video but keep in mind span limitations are recommended for specific products based off of their tendencies to expand and contract in the manufacturers testing. No expansion gap and each board swells 1/32 of an inch over 64’ and you’ve got 2” of movement. Again some vinyl can do those large spaces but others can’t. Amongst LVP, WPC and SPC there are varying qualities and blends of polymers that affect this. I work in the flooring industry and have seen plenty of vinyl plank installs fail because people felt like their floors couldn’t expand and contract. There’s always the gray area between what it says you should do and what you can get away with, but you usually never find out you took it too far until it’s too late.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY
@HomeRenoVisionDIY 3 жыл бұрын
did you miss the video where we show there is no expansion?
@danieljensen1465
@danieljensen1465 3 жыл бұрын
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY I saw the video and honestly it looked like there was a bit of expansion man. Try it again with calipers and take a look. I love your content and have used a lot of your advice in the past, but like I said I’m in the flooring industry and to reference my above comment have seen many failures in different vinyl planks from expansion. I’m not trying to hate just converse :) Honestly I’m kind of upset with myself that after all these years my first big comment might come across as negative lol, again love the content been watching for years.
@sh1pp
@sh1pp 2 жыл бұрын
​@@HomeRenoVisionDIY If you had put the hot one in the middle you would have seen that the square did not sit evenly across all of them.
@nonanaracing
@nonanaracing 10 ай бұрын
@@sh1pp yes you are correct...But there is 250deg temp between the boards, not 10, 20 or 30 deg which are normal temp ranges, so the difference in movement would be hardly anything
@car_ventures
@car_ventures 3 жыл бұрын
I have vinyl flooring (the complete vinyl composite, not mixed with wood) continuous across all of the downstairs (seamless end to end, no gaps at doorways etc). Some parts see direct sunlight, some parts are a in colder spot and some parts have fixtures sat on them. No issues. The only times I've seen a floor warp is on wood laminate when there has been heavy water spillage that wasn't cleaned up.
@davidparker2173
@davidparker2173 3 жыл бұрын
That was extremely helpful, and miraculous timing. I need to think about becoming a member. I am just so cheap, though maybe I am penny wise, and pound foolish. I'll just keep watching the free videos till I fathom the $60 yearly membership is a safe enough bet to start with.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY
@HomeRenoVisionDIY 3 жыл бұрын
things are about to change. membership is about to save you money. Cheers!
@thomasdickson35
@thomasdickson35 3 жыл бұрын
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY Uh oh, what does that mean?
@dragonrider9051
@dragonrider9051 3 жыл бұрын
I remodeled my grandmas bathroom from your build advice, now her friends want me to remodel their's for them. My wallet doesn't know to thank you, or my back cursing you.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY
@HomeRenoVisionDIY 3 жыл бұрын
That is awesome! your back will get used to it. Cheers!
@alisongoldsberry8062
@alisongoldsberry8062 3 жыл бұрын
Curious, how do you charge?
@chriss4739
@chriss4739 2 жыл бұрын
Lifeproof installation instructions show 1/4 gap required. Have you considered the structure itself expanding and shrinkage, not the flooring planks itself? I will be adding a gap. Also that oven experiment, well that's a dry heat and humidity is what causes materials to expand not just heat. I enjoy your channel and you have saved me quit a bit of time and money. Thank you
@HomeRenoVisionDIY
@HomeRenoVisionDIY 2 жыл бұрын
No worries Chris. vinyl flooring has now been proven to not need transitions for up to 10,000 sq ft of install.
@CaliGhost
@CaliGhost 3 жыл бұрын
I've remodels 2 Bedrooms and made an 8 x 12 Modern shed/Studio. Great explanations and I love your Tips/Tricks you give. Thank you for making these videos
@HomeRenoVisionDIY
@HomeRenoVisionDIY 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic!
@cenkaetaya
@cenkaetaya Жыл бұрын
Why not show how much they expand length wise?
@delhume2691
@delhume2691 3 жыл бұрын
Great job! It is wonderful to hear truthful information.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY
@HomeRenoVisionDIY 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@BaconPowderful
@BaconPowderful 3 жыл бұрын
Not questioning results here for SPC vinyl. Don’t extrapolate to other flooring materials. For example, Lowes own brand of composite decking expands and contracts a lot, especially the dark “planks” which get very hot (and long), even in Canadian summers! Before installing on a hot, bright day, measure the length of a 12-ft plank early in the morning, then again mid-afternoon after it’s been baking on the deck support system. Then figure out how to deal with movement and with trim at plank ends.
@portnoithegroundhog
@portnoithegroundhog 3 жыл бұрын
A fun science experiment is to see what happens to super-cheap (no core to speak of) floppy vinyl planks when you heat them up to make them lay flat again after sitting under an oven foot for a year. Thanks for showing something that works better.
@knotmaggot9588
@knotmaggot9588 3 жыл бұрын
We are fortunate to have a local manufacturer of SPC flooring close to us (I intentionally excluded the name to avoid any issues but will happily provide if prompted by Jeff). Comes with an underpad attached, was simple to install and straight cuts we done with a speed square and shard razor knife (more difficult cuts were made with a circular saw or rotozip/dremel). Hard to beat less than $2.50 per square foot for a basement, ESPECIALLY since it's perfect for the worst case scenario "water event".
@TheTerminator1919
@TheTerminator1919 3 жыл бұрын
Soo they should make LVP's for the garage since they can withhold a variety of temperatures?! Weight is a different issue of course. Sorry for the many comments I blame the moonshine. Cheers!
@parascalemodels
@parascalemodels 3 жыл бұрын
Jeff says " Seriously though, Stop going online to get your information"...does this mean I should disagree with what my eyes just showed me? LOL thanks for the post Jeff. KUTGW
@HomeRenoVisionDIY
@HomeRenoVisionDIY 3 жыл бұрын
LOL, Cheers!
@RobotMowerTricks
@RobotMowerTricks 3 жыл бұрын
lol my thought exactly! But I assume he means forums :P
@JohnAndersonIV
@JohnAndersonIV Жыл бұрын
I get what you are saying, but am still entertained that I just watched a video online for information about vinyl that concluded by telling me that the Internet is a terrible place to get information about vinyl.
@MWilliamsVTGrrrl
@MWilliamsVTGrrrl 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for product testing! Love your bandaid 😉
@HomeRenoVisionDIY
@HomeRenoVisionDIY 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@CarlosSantos-zd2ho
@CarlosSantos-zd2ho 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to demonstrate👍
@robskully3539
@robskully3539 3 жыл бұрын
We love vinyl flooring .... back in 2013 we did our whole house ( 26’ x 42’ ) with 12’ roll stuff from Armstrong. Sadly when we added our new 26’ x 30’ addition they already discontinued the style we had. So we went with Cortex vinyl click flooring. We like vinyl because we have dogs and cats and it is much easier to keep clean. We are now adding a 12’ x 16’ 3 season porch and will with vinyl click stuff again. We found some nice stuff at Floor & Decor :-)
@OrganizeCreateDecorate
@OrganizeCreateDecorate 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all your wonderful videos. I love your honesty and straight forward videos. I'll still stick with real solid wood or strand bamboo for looks.
@jocelynmilazzo2890
@jocelynmilazzo2890 3 жыл бұрын
I just bought spc flooring for a park model trailer rated for + 60 to - 60 there is no heat in the winter. I was told it is the best flooring for no heat.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY
@HomeRenoVisionDIY 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool!
@dartagnantaft5918
@dartagnantaft5918 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad this test turned out like it did because I've already bought $1200.00 of vinal for my daughters basement bedroom. I chose vinal because of one of your other video. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us.
@seabass22
@seabass22 3 жыл бұрын
We were looking at vinyl flooring probably right before you posted this
@derekeden9688
@derekeden9688 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly they love to talk about the expanding and contracting... I've installed every type of flooring for about 6 years now and the only problem or "call back" ive ever had was with bamboo... Never would I ever suggest bamboo for any home. Hardwood such as solid hardwoods yes I wouldn't install it to tight but vinyl such as cortech which in my opinion is the best, never ever have I had a problem. Honestly vinyl is the best and now days it looks so much like real hardwoods why not spend the little extra money
@HomeRenoVisionDIY
@HomeRenoVisionDIY 3 жыл бұрын
Is cortech from floor and Decor?
@thetipsyrabbit5758
@thetipsyrabbit5758 3 жыл бұрын
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY I used to think bamboo would be so awesome...until I viewed a condo I was thinking bout buying---the floor was a gaping mess.
@syednaqvi2740
@syednaqvi2740 3 жыл бұрын
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY I'm pretty sure Nucore is floor and decor. Coretech is really good quality, but expensive. Nucore is also nice! Have it in my house. Anyways, thanks for the videos Jeff! Youve helped me a million things over the past couple years!
@Booswap
@Booswap 2 жыл бұрын
I wish more information about how good vinyl was out there as it was hard finding an easy answer like you have just done. I was definitely getting mixed up with laminate. You sir are amazing.
@katjones4840
@katjones4840 3 жыл бұрын
Your kitchen is super pretty!
@pdannysan13
@pdannysan13 10 ай бұрын
I have installed vinyl plank flooring. We love it. My question is how to finish it next to wall? Should I put caulking between the wall and the plank? I am talking about the part that will be covered by th3 baseboard. Same question relates to baseboards? Should I glue it to the wall? Or to the vinyl plank? Logic tells me to glue it to the wall.
@TheTerminator1919
@TheTerminator1919 3 жыл бұрын
Jeff's doing a scientific experiment! Yes! Truly this is a solid informative video.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY
@HomeRenoVisionDIY 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not gonna wear a lab coat or anything but I figured people need to see it in action in order to believe it. Cheers!
@johnnyyi9027
@johnnyyi9027 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! You answered what I needed to know!!! Much appreciated. 👍
@Stingerrray
@Stingerrray Жыл бұрын
Damn Bro. It Expands / Contracts length wise not side to side. And is the info your giving not "Online"? Thanks for the video.
@johnjr.placzek8368
@johnjr.placzek8368 3 жыл бұрын
You started off on the right track. And in ways your mostly right Then gave some bad info. I represent a flooring manufacturer (one of the largest vinyl flooring companies) who also has to go on warranty claims. We do our own testing and define product limitations in the warrany and install instructions. We look at these specifics when determining a warrany claim. Do not make it easy for us to deny a claim. Listen to the install instructions because if something goes wrong and you did not... it's your money.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY
@HomeRenoVisionDIY 3 жыл бұрын
HI John. I call BS. I have yet to have a flooring company ever take responsibility for their product. all they do is make fake rules and then use excuses on site as to why it was the installers error.
@johnjr.placzek8368
@johnjr.placzek8368 3 жыл бұрын
Flooring manufacturers can not warranty against Stupid or bum installers. Too many times accommodations are made to the home owner for a poorly installed floor, allowing the installer to get off the hook. You are the kind of guy that puts diesel in a gas engine and tells the manufacturer the car shouldn't be so sensitive. Viewers, this is why it is so important to hire a qualified and professional flooring contractor. Amatures such as this guy beleive Rigid Core flooring can be installed over sub floors with minimal prep. If a flooring installer does not mention the amount of prep needed... Run... but it's your money when the claim is denied for shoty work. Some installs would be much better suited with glue down product. But clowns like this wont recommend this as they are not capable.
@michaelolive5070
@michaelolive5070 2 жыл бұрын
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY used to manage a lab that tested for carpet stain warranty claims. In some cases, customer paid for one product but a cheaper product was installed by retailer. In other cases, carpet manufacturer did not put stain chemical on carpet at even close to required amount. That said, legitimate claims were covered. Most warranties require professional installation. Having your cousin do it while he's laid off his bartending job usually doesn't fly.
@sebastiantoplician1093
@sebastiantoplician1093 3 жыл бұрын
New subscriber here Jeff! Loving the videos. I'm a big DIYer and my wife has been learning a ton as well. Looking forward to seeing what else we can learn through your channel. Cheers! :)
@HomeRenoVisionDIY
@HomeRenoVisionDIY 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!
@sh1pp
@sh1pp 2 жыл бұрын
I do like real testing like this, but I also like the tests to be structured carefully. Improvements to this test I would have like to see would be any combination of a) the same test (qualitative) side by side with one of the other products you are saying has a problem with expansion and contraction, b) an actual measurement of the difference seen multiplied out for dimensions of some common room sizes. If it is too small to measure, measure it lengthwise. Without the structure you can ditch the test because in this video we just had to take your word for it that the other materials expand and contract more and that the vinyl expansion and contraction was small enough it wouldn't matter. I love your vids and trust your opinion, but when Physics tells us all materials expand and contract with temperature change and you want to prove it using I test I would like to see you do as good a job using science as you do explaining how to DIY.
@hashman27
@hashman27 4 ай бұрын
Excuse my ignorance but don't we also need to check the longitudinal length of each plank? If we are only talking millimetres, you're more likely to see an effect in the longer plane. When you buckled the plank at the beginning of the video, you did it in the longitudinal plane, but when you measured the planks, you measured in the horizontal plane.
@MrAlexthecrazy
@MrAlexthecrazy 3 жыл бұрын
What where you measuring for an observable expansion/contraction? You should measure the difference in length of the long length of the plank.. no?
@javyacosta6404
@javyacosta6404 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, my name is javier and I'm currently working on my 3rd fixer-upper home, your videos have been so helpful. You explain things in a simpler easier to understand manner. I'm a huge fan. I was looking around the internet for a backsplash match for my kitchen and the one in the background of this video really caught my attention. Do you mind sharing with me what the name or manufacturer of that kitchen backsplash. Blessings
@Michael-osas
@Michael-osas 3 жыл бұрын
I like your hot to cold demo. Who would have thought 👍.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY
@HomeRenoVisionDIY 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@roliks
@roliks 3 жыл бұрын
Great information! Love the videos! Keep up the good work even in these difficult times!
@HomeRenoVisionDIY
@HomeRenoVisionDIY 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Will do!
@DragonflyAcres2022
@DragonflyAcres2022 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jeff for the great information.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY
@HomeRenoVisionDIY 3 жыл бұрын
You bet!
@jeradbanyan4825
@jeradbanyan4825 3 жыл бұрын
You have a license to use those bandaids?
@dustman96
@dustman96 3 жыл бұрын
Ummm... maybe you should have made sure the surface they are on is flat and level, then used the square to hold them perpendicular to the surface, then used a level to look at the difference, or better yet use a measuring device to get a before and after measurement. A 32nd of an inch apiece over 20 of those is a lot. The point of your video is that this stuff expands and contracts very little, which is true, but please use a meaningful test.
@pixiemermaid
@pixiemermaid 3 жыл бұрын
I like your blue kitchen ... What color of blue (and what brand name paint) is your kitchen walls and cabinets and what vinyl flooring color is this! ?????
@MrCoalcracker79
@MrCoalcracker79 3 жыл бұрын
Jeff, Love the electricians bandaid on your finger. Lol Cheers!
@HomeRenoVisionDIY
@HomeRenoVisionDIY 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers Jay, still working on my house!
@notimportant3686
@notimportant3686 8 ай бұрын
did he really just put a straight edge over the locking mechanism?... measure the lengths of the plank... that's what would cause the buckling, if the planks expanded, not just the locking mechanism what was the point of this?
@Vvrei
@Vvrei 3 жыл бұрын
I know you said SPC would not buckle but what about a home that is winterized for six months in Michigan? So, no heat whatsoever for six months. Thanks. Great info
@HomeRenoVisionDIY
@HomeRenoVisionDIY 3 жыл бұрын
no heat means you will have minor issues no matter what you choose. at least vinyl is the lowest rated for contraction.
@TheTerminator1919
@TheTerminator1919 3 жыл бұрын
Karndean looselay LVP flooring....no worries about expansion! High quality stuff.
@steve_main
@steve_main 3 жыл бұрын
Jeff is that Caesar mix, Tabasco and Worcestershire sauce @ 9:13? True Canadian!
@judycosman6666
@judycosman6666 3 жыл бұрын
Have seen a few of your informative videos BUT still have a question! We are still in the research process between vinyl and laminate flooring for a kitchen. The question is: 1) in an older house there is sheet vinyl down. 2) we prefer a 12mm laminate with a 2mm attached backing with an AC3 or AC4 rating. 3) the manufacturer claims we can install directly over the sheet vinyl. Please advise that we don’t need a further underlayment OR do we take up the sheet vinyl and use an underpayment. Hope I haven’t confused you as much as I am!
@SashaFierceVermont
@SashaFierceVermont 2 жыл бұрын
“SPC” stands for? Is this the product/class of products also referred to as luxury vinyl plank? Just found your channel and am learning with each video. Excellent presentation and language, keep up the great work!
@georgebush6002
@georgebush6002 3 жыл бұрын
I am unsatisfied with this measurement setup. An inside corner square referenced on the side of the plank would be a better choice in general for checking for gaps, but especially if the planks expand and contract similar distances as no gaps would be seen just by checking it with a strait edge since the planks were ordered by temperature.
@stevenme1258
@stevenme1258 2 жыл бұрын
This guy’s the best! Thank you sir.
@dantelasalle586
@dantelasalle586 2 жыл бұрын
anyone here have experience with Coretec Stone? (thank you for all these videos by the way, much appreciated)
@danf-gg4lk
@danf-gg4lk Жыл бұрын
Having several pieces heated and cooled, putting them together and measuring lengthwise would be interesting.. I've been beating myself up over flooring in a cabin where outside temps go from 10°-85°F. The internet and warranty instructions are an awful place to get a straight answer.
@timothysexton7621
@timothysexton7621 3 жыл бұрын
Jeff learning lots from your videos. Just started a kitchen remodeling for we had a leak from the dishwasher and the previous owner had the laminate with mdf backing and a foam padding under it. The padding absorbed all the water and went into the living room underneath the flooring. Letting it all dry out now. Removed all the sub floor in the kitchen for it was old and they originally had 1 foot vinyl tile glued down. What a mess. Will be doing what you said. Main 1/2 plywood is nailed down so I will screw down by all the nails. Put down new sub floor with staples. Like to install the SPC Vinyl you put down in your kitchen but not sure if it is in my budget for we have to do the living room as well. Looking into windows from a outlet near Kingston Ontario Wait for the Ikea Kitchen to go on sale. Once that is purchased will look at joining so I can get more advice, not sure which level I will need to get. Want info on my remodel if I took some pictures for a review and suggestions. Thanks for sharing your work.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY
@HomeRenoVisionDIY 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Timothy. If you are looking for a great deal on windows then hold off for a couple weeks. I am arranging so that my viewers can get my pricing on windows. this will be a huge savings and we are announcing soon. Cheers!
@DuncanAtkinson
@DuncanAtkinson Жыл бұрын
why did you not compare lengths!?
@johnrga
@johnrga 3 жыл бұрын
Why would anyone give this a thumbs down?
@dfs7979
@dfs7979 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jeff can you do one of these flooring videos on carpet? I need to buy some carpet without being ripped off. PET, Textra, Nylon 6 - does it really matter? Is my $5.50 sq/ft Nylon plush going to be just as worn as my $2.75 PET plush after 10 years? Short pile, high pile? What about pads... are the expensive "memory foam" pads just a gimmick? How much does face weight and yarn density matter? Keep up the great work!
@michaelolive5070
@michaelolive5070 2 жыл бұрын
Fyi. Not all nylon is the same. Nylon 6-6, better than nylon 6 for long term durability. Stainmaster a quality product with historically good warranty support. May be different if no longer Dupont but now part of Koch Invista portfolio.
@michaelolive5070
@michaelolive5070 2 жыл бұрын
To a large extent, you get what you pay for in carpet. High traffic areas need a high quality product. Research online studies, not youtube videos.
@michaelolive5070
@michaelolive5070 2 жыл бұрын
Face weight and density are both important, as is the fibre type. Density more so as weight can vary depending on weight of backing and pile height, which can muddy direct comparisons.
@BL423R
@BL423R 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do the same test for WPC please
@ktwingstrom
@ktwingstrom 3 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU! I'm SO SICK of everyone saying vinyl expands and contracts. IT DOESN'T!!
@shane250
@shane250 3 жыл бұрын
You have no idea how many arguments I get into because of this topic. In Canada, the only floor expansion you'll get inside your home is from humidity, not temperature. So anything vinyl won't need any room for expansion. even if you're crazy and go 37 degrees in summer and you set your thermostat for 13 degrees in winter, a 24-degree change won't do shit for expansion/contraction.
@chadleschasin2893
@chadleschasin2893 Жыл бұрын
It’s not just the floor that expands and contracts due to thermal it’s the whole building assembly….. it’s why buildings made from multiple buildings materials will always leave expansion and deflection gaps be it expansion gaps in drywall finishes or wall assemblies everything needs room to move and humidity has nothing to do with those ……..
@shane250
@shane250 Жыл бұрын
@@chadleschasin2893 Everything needs room, except for plastic (vinyl). These will contact\expand maybe 1mm for every 100m of flooring. Take a plank, measure it in room temp, then put it in your freezer for a day and measure again, then heat your oven to 50⁰c and put it in there for an hour or two and measure again. I guarantee you that you won't see any measurable change. Now for wood flooring, if it's -20⁰ outside, and 25⁰c inside, with 45% humidity, the wood will expand, while the entire house will contact a little (from the cold exterior), so you might have a problem. For LVP, you can leave a 2mm gap and you'll be fine.
@leebannister3759
@leebannister3759 3 жыл бұрын
That oven trick is interesting. I wonder if there is an application for that process, maybe over transitions from inside wood sub floor to outside living space on concrete.
@blLLaBong
@blLLaBong 3 жыл бұрын
Your channel is therapeutic
@southerncomfort971
@southerncomfort971 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jeff, but with all flooring it needs to be installed properly, I had hired a company to lay our floor and less then two years later we have a few corners and edges popping up, They are not yet so high that they are trouble spots for walking or cleaning but i am afraid they will become that way much faster now since they are showing. i have been searching for a way to fix these on the web and so far havent seen anything that i would trust. following up with the manufacturer is too late and the installer is not around either. Lucky us!
@novarocker247
@novarocker247 3 жыл бұрын
Just install your floors in the summer and turn off your AC.... right? No issues and dont worry about expansion gaps.
@Jeff-if4id
@Jeff-if4id 3 жыл бұрын
SPC core, hell ya!
@HomeRenoVisionDIY
@HomeRenoVisionDIY 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers Jeff!
@123456789qwerthy
@123456789qwerthy 5 ай бұрын
What about the length? Cuz longer so can see better if the length difference
@1monagale
@1monagale 3 жыл бұрын
Where is the “show more” link for the flooring
@xephael3485
@xephael3485 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have examples of ceramic tile floors and dealing with expansion there?
@HomeRenoVisionDIY
@HomeRenoVisionDIY 3 жыл бұрын
ceramic is crazy. we will cover that one of these days!
@dennisjackson170
@dennisjackson170 3 жыл бұрын
Tile cracks for one reason ! Movement with the substrate. If you apply directly into plywood . There is a 95% chance that it will crack. Porcelain is dimensionally stable. Don't listen to this guy. He claims to know, and knows only enough to be dangerous to consumers.
@xephael3485
@xephael3485 3 жыл бұрын
@@dennisjackson170 well it also cracks if you drop a hammer 🔨 on it 😂🤪
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