THE TRUTH: Dr Martens "MADE IN ENGLAND" 1460 - 6 Month Review

[@RoseAnvil]

🙌🙌🙌 Thanks for the shout out! Great video as usual my friend.

[@LISA75_]

THE DIFFRENCE between doc now and then, you could get a pair of docs in the 90s for around £50 and if you got the kids sizes they were cheaper. I know because i got my first pair of DOCs 1460 from the army and navy store they were a uk 5 and £39 .Docs are just a brand now they dont care about the product they are selling they have quadrupled the price and halved the quality.

[@vlad3060]

Was a 25+ year purchaser of Doc Marten products but could no longer justify the price. Solovair quality and variety is what made me a fan of this style of shoe/boot all those years ago.

[@mael3527]

Just bought mine, had to go shopping and walked for 40min with them straight out of the box for the first time and they where perferct; felt like walking on cloud, not a single pain for the whole walk, i love them already !

[@lriper4702]

I bought solovair boots and I have to say to everyone who wants to buy a pair, that the shape of them has nothing to do with dr martens! They are completely different boots in design. I also want to mention that the soles of my solovair 11eye boots lasted exactly the same as my MIE dr martens, 7 months.

[@candshoes1890]

We are in the prime of the doc marten drama. And all of these videos are amazing

[@barryking3714]

Yep they're excellent. I'm after a pair of Solovairs now.

[@littlesammyf7380]

It’s a shame because they are a lovely looking boot but they wear down for you so quickly. Happy Christmas to you and Mrs DR, thank you for all the fab reviews and helping me pick my boots this year 🎄☃️🎄

[@Supersyncopation]

Used to wear Doc Martens when they were decent , quite a long time ago now. Far better ways to spend £180 unless money is not an issue for you.

[@steelmango]

I've found rubbing coconut oil into the boots works a wonder. Breaks the boots in faster and cleans the leather. I coat the inside of the boot heavily aswel as the outside. Let them dry and then rub the dried oil into the leather further. You'll have to buff the shoe occasionally before wearing them as you'll have "white dry oil residue" but no other way to have a quick wearable comfy boot.

[@caspar_gomez]

Of course there's other ways

[@itsthecharlz]

Your voice is so relaxing!

[@nathandrum47]

Love that you and rose anvil are buddy’s now!

[@lriper4702]

Yes, they are two buddy’s fighting dr martens...

[@ncc74656m]

Super happy with my Solovairs, even if the company can't always manage to send the correct item to you.

[@tsedor614]

Michael Strange has she let you touch it yet?

[@blueband8114]

6mnths and very worn sole, for £180. That is enough to put me off. I'd want at least 2 to 3 yrs.

[@simoncrawford350]

Blueband 8 especially when the leather top is still in bloody good nick!👍

[@benharrison8975]

Sole will last plenty long once they am worse smooth. I have three pairs of vintage boots 8years old still plenty of sole left.

[@terrortorn]

@CrazyRussianShow Too true. You can get at least the same quality in boots at half the price. Prestige pricing for fashion values.

[@benharrison8975]

@crazy russian show I have never slipped in DM’S I have a pair that are over 20 years old that are completely smooth on the bottom that I still wear. I haven’t ever had a traction problem.

[@benharrison8975]

@crazy Russia show I’ve owned one pair of Cat boots in my life they were so uncomfortable they ended up in the trash after a month of wear! I would agree that dr martens are not snow boots . But most of your other claims appear to be opinions. A true good pair of boots can cost $400-600.

[@blackflyingfox3365]

I found a pair of made in England Dr. Martens on sale for $180. I was going to get Solovair boots but they were $220. So I went with the obvious choice. They gave me a blister so I went and bought some big and tall diabetic socks. Diabetic socks are thicker than regular socks. I wear 2 socks on each foot to put an extra thick layer between the boot and the blister. I have no more problems with blisters or discomfort while walking in them. To me this is the best way to break in new boots.

[@BoyanGeorgiev666]

Yeah, the sad truth. I have the 10 hole cherry reds from before 2013 and they have nothing in common with those new ones with the paper thin leather and soles that wear out within a month. Hell, two years ago I bought a pair and within six months they literally looked so beaten, that I couldn't believe it. And mind you, I have other pairs, so they go on rotation, not wearing them everyday. luckily, we have Solovair - the black greasy leather is a gift from the heavens. And we also have William Lennon boots - now this is something on another level. Easily the best boots I've ever worn. And you can customize your pair as you wish - all kinds of leathers available.

[@MogulDesigns]

Own 3 pairs of Made in England DM, but looking forward to giving Solovair boots a go in the future 👍

[@t-wrecks6060]

Jay Torres how are they holding up? I just ordered an oxblood pair last night!

[@MogulDesigns]

Comfortable... But, the soles do wear down fast if they are your daily wear. I tend to mix it up wearing different boots and shoes to extend the life of the soles on my DMs

[@M82RKY]

I'm gutted I didn't research on Dr Martens more before buying the 101s in Butterscotch. They look awesome but the creases are atrocious probably due to being made overseas but the soles are better wearing than on this video with the x design. I just had a pair of Thursday Captains delivered to UK from the states and you definitely need to check these out mate if you like a good boot.

[@MogulDesigns]

Guessing they might use a different rubber compound for the made overseas DMs. I know for a fact that leather is nowhere near as durable as the made in England DMs. On the other hand Solovair boots looks to have a more durable rubber compound for there boots and sell replacement soles while still keeps the soul of the original design. I'm sold!

[@Crash.7434]

On the inside of my dr martens made in England, where the double loop is on the inside, at the end it came undone. This is on my left boot on the right side and on the other side also in the same spot. Is this something I should worry about? If so where can I go to get it fixed?

[@xJuliaGrimesx]

Rose Anvil really did an awesome job taking them apart! Now we know whats behind the Brand ;)

[@leandracohen4047]

Rose Anvil said that even Solovair are not that perfect and even Reg Wings. I actually couldn't find any of his videos where he actually says anything good about any brand.

[@wesleyharding6076]

I was MASSIVELY disappointed with my made in England 1460 cherry red Docs! I had Docs when I was a kid, and not only did they last years, but they were relatively cheap too (if anyone out there is old enough to remember Alexei Sayle's song "Dr Marten's boots" on The Young Ones TV show in 1982, it contained the line "and retail for only nineteen pounds, ninety nine pee") Many years later I bought a pair of Asian made, oxblood 1460s and loved them....for about three months, until the soles on both boots started coming off! Splits started appearing along the line on the sole where the colour changes slightly, and just got worse and worse until they were unwearable. The uppers were still great though, and had mellowed to a really nice colour. The box said they were "Inuck" leather, which I think is the same or similar to Pascal leather. So, I shelled out over £200 of my hard earned money on a pair of Made in England 1460s in cherry red. I loved them, at first. The soles stayed on and didn't split anywhere. The same can't be said for the uppers though! I polished them religiously with Dr Marten's own brand polish (which I also think is overpriced garbage) but cracks started appearing along the line where your foot flexes, just back from the toe. The cracks got worse and worse and turned into splits! Not only that but the heel cap (which is basically just thick cardboard!) cracked and disintegrated as well. It was lockdown at this point so I couldn't take them back (I didn't have the receipt anymore either). I was furious! What a rip off! What a waste of 200 quid as well! I wished I could take the soles off my Made In England boots and put them on my old Asian made boots, but most cobblers (if you can find one anymore) won't touch Docs. I love how Docs look though (and Solovair just aren't quite the same. I want yellow stitching!) So, I've just bought a pair of Thai made 1460 Ambassador Pascal leather Docs in Cashew (which is a lovely reddy brown colour) This is Dr Marten's last chance!!! If these soles or the uppers split, that's it! I'm never buying Docs again! ok, rant over!

[@jester5ify]

There is a guy YT that refurbs dm's, cant remember the name sry...

[@zerorez4960]

. SO ? , WHAT HAPPENED ? 😮

[@kfung4]

used to be my favorite brand back in school, still like the looks of it, but didn't find it as comfortable as brands like redwings

[@grahamhill6479]

Going back to the skinhead era of the 70's when I was in my teens, if I'm not mistaken the sole of the Doc Martens boots was a little thicker unlike the sole of the pair in the video.

[@MrToddy31]

Thanks for taking the time and posting. I really enjoyed your review. Keep up the good work and have a fab Christmas. 🎄

[@ten10strips85]

Good review, and thanks for it. I remember the quality diminishing in the nineties though, in US at least. I had a pair of Underground boots with steel toes and those lasted six years of daily wear, had them resoled twice. Great boots, don't know if the company is still around or not.

[@BBme]

I still have my 1994 10 eyelets doc worn for 2 years every weekend when it was a big trend. It was very durable but took months to break in. Before break-in, it has bad comfortability, and even after break-in, their comfort level is still far from other boots. If further compared to sneakers, Doc lost hands down. I still occasionally wear them once in a few months but they are still the same less comfy shoes.

[@Benzyl]

Kind of miraculous that the inner heel reinforcement hadn't split already leading to the usual outer tear proceeding up the back and along the stitch line.

[@Benzyl]

I've worn DM's since the 70's and I don't think the heel lining ever made it much past a month before starting to crack, it's a real race between the outer heel leather starting to tear because of that and the bald spot on the front of the sole splitting, always.

[@ViolinChick5]

I can’t speak for their wear, but I can say from experience that Doc Marten’s quality control and customer service is terrible. I splurged on the Horween MIE boots. They arrived with a large bump under the insole in one boot- clearly a defect. I contacted customer service immediately but it took them over a month to offer a “fix”. They offered to ship me new insoles…which would not have fixed the problem. So I asked for a straight up refund and shipped the boots back. I’m planning to take the refund and either buy some Solovairs or hunt down some vintage 90s DMs.

[@leadinglady19]

ViolinChick5 WOW... id be so pissed. Was about to jump the gun and buy a MIE pair from the online store but after reading this, I’m gonna pass. Thanks for saving me my money

[@maxbig9021]

vintage 90s DMs ! MIE before 2003 from eBay - only solution !

[@attilavarga1152]

Did you consider adding halfsoles to your boots? A good cobbler can sand down the pattern just a tiny bit, and glue a sole protector on. When they worn, you just ask to replace it. This is possible with many of rubber soled shoes, and this is also possible with the heel too. A good shoetree can help a lot with the wrinkles on the vamp, it does't allow them to became too deep. This leather is coated with plastic, so it will crack inevitably, (because leather care products just not soak into it properly, and the coating also prone to cracking). I think you should buy something with a better uncoated leather.

[@nikkingman]

Excellent recommendation... except you didn't make an actual recommendation.

[@JimsonMakes]

Yes defo a very narrow last on these. I was born in the 60s and have worn DMs much of my life and I have to say that the soles have always worn down quite quickly. The leather on the Solovair is more like the original DMs, the MIE leather is slightly thicker (on my boots anyway).

[@-----REDACTED-----]

It’s great to outsource the production so production is less expensive but quality stays the same and consumer prices are lowered accordingly. Problem with docs is that the quality fell, thus prices rose accordingly (and were likely increased beyond that).

[@Starthclyde]

My mom gave me her old uniseex Docs she got from her mum when she went on vacation back home in the late 80's early 90's, There still in the family and my son is next up to wear them, that is fucking quality

[@Squillaempusa.]

"Obenauf's heavy duty leather preservative". I haven't tried it on DMs yet, as I've just recently ordered my first pair, but have been trying other products on my good boots such as Danners for years. Decades really. This is the best leather product I've tried.

[@olgi2068]

I know the comparison is difficult and it also comes down to personal preferences, but I have to say that I think the DM are overpriced for what you get. I wear Red Wing shoes on a daily basis and frankly for 100-130€ more you do get a lot more. Look at a an Iron Ranger or a Blacksmith, you clearly get a much better construction and quality. Excellent review! I highly appreciate how objective and informative you are. Thumbs up.

[@PT111111]

I want to buy another pair of Docs but I just can't get over those thin as soles compared to the old school lugged commando soles that Docs used to have.

[@ZackBlackMusic]

PT111111 I bought the ICON 7B10 Steel Toe Utility work boot. Yes, they’re made in China, but with a soft leather and thin lining, real safety rated steel toes and a thicker lug sole, I feel they’re the best value and you get more boot for the money.

[@lriper4702]

Dr martens are much more comfortable as they used to be. And this is because of their new soles. They don’t last as long as they used to, but it’s like walking on air.

[@PT111111]

@@lriper4702 I don't remember the old sole being uncomfortable. It's a cost cutting exercise, pure and simple.

[@saudakar9004]

@@lriper4702 lol you are a bot

[@Benzyl]

Only ever got the commando style sole once but it didn't seem to last that much longer.

[@liljuanito123]

I like your shirt, what brand is that?

[@utharaptortrex]

I have a pair of regular Doc Martens. When the soles start to get flatspots i'll get my cobler sand them flat and glue sole protectors on to extend their longevity!

[@toltec13]

Dr Martens soles needs the durability of the American Red Wing boots! When I was a kid, my dad had a clothing shop and he sold Santa Rosa Boots. Those Santa Rosa work boots were made in Santa Rosa, California using thick bullhide and built like a tank! One popular boot was the 6 inch boots with see through gummy soles. All the boots were factory leather conditioned so the wrapping paper and sometimes the boxes would be oily. Never did one of Santa Rosa boots came back to my dad's shop for lack of quality control. The only problem was that people didn't oil the leather and it began to crack. The life expectancy of those boots were, depending on the environment, around 4-5 years if worn daily on 8 hour shift. Customers would come back with their boots all beatened the hell up and compare the old boots to the exact new ones for brand, style and size. They wanted to be absolutely sure they purchased the identical pair.

[@gobanito]

I've had my oxblood 1490 MIE since 2007 they've been put through a lot of mileage worth of walking throughout the years, punk shows, rain, dirt, and mud, they've held up well for all that time. And the leather is still tough. The soles on the other hand have understandably worn down. Nevertheless they are still serviceable and I plan to wear them until they fall apart. Judging by how long my 1490s have lasted, its going to be a long wait until that happens.

[@omnivorace]

The sole problem is enough for me.

[@LunaRose1312]

Yup premium price for worse sole,

[@vladimirolujic6637]

I had them once in elementary school and never again because of the pathetic quality soles. Even though I like the looks of some models, I'm always hesitant and decide against because of the soles. They're just too soft and wear out fast

[@fuckgoogle3516]

I wear docs for construction and the icons sole is better than red wings

[@Crash.7434]

@@vladimirolujic6637 they never had kid sizes until recently, so how did you wear them? Unless you grew up in the 2000’s

[@BosworthMcG]

@@Crash.7434 some kids have big feet yo

[@SausageFingers420]

Re: the Wonder Balsam, I'd recommend using it on the inside leather as per the website's recommendation. Definitely helps with break-in. Oddly enough, I found the width of my MIE 1460s to be fairly generous. I normally wear US size 11.5 EEEE (my feet are really wide) and I find my size 12 Doc's pretty darn comfy.

[@eburoviccelt]

I got a 1 year warranty and same balsam. I see it as an investment and I hope It will last long and will give me a comfortable boot. I bought it today. And I think also 2 year warranty for the sole.

[@dufferdude1205]

I was in the military in the 90’s and our boots had hard leather. We,I would put them on and go for a walk in the ocean. It would mess up the finish, military needed a shine, but they buffed up fine. We,I were able to get them comfortable real fast.

[@AldenJ1308]

So I own a Pair of DM Made in England 10 hole and a pair of Solovair standard 8 hole lace Derby boots and I like the DM better. -Lighter on the foot. -Toe is flatter and gives a better profile -The two tone of the Quilion Leather cannot be understated. It looks really good after breaking in a little -The Solovair is All black and the stitching is dark grey so it looks like an all black boot which doesn't look very appealing -The leather of the DM feels nicer and is a more muted black. More of a matte black vs. the Solovair glossy black (atleast from the one I got) I've got about 100 miles in mine and haven't seen any significant wear on the soles. But I also dont drag my feet at all really. TLDR: DM has a better profile, Is lighter, Looks cooler after broken in.

[@sfrenchy5943]

Hope your well, What do you use on your oxbloods polish wise to give them a nice look and protection ? I also have the made in englands

[@jamescorbett3611]

Thank you for this - I have these boots too and the leather creased badly and thinned in 2 areas even when well cared for with mink oil and regular cleaning routine.

[@martinlowery3859]

Having worn Doc Martens since the early 80's when they were still English made and before all the bizarre colours came in and they became a fashion thing as opposed to a functional, hard wearing boot I am dismayed that people are even considering them as a contender against proper all leather Goodyear welted boots which are available for the same sort of money. My last pair of 1460s literally fell apart before my eyes within months of purchase and the quality of materials was terrible, horrible corrected leather which was cheap and nasty, even the insoles were crappy plastic which curled up and dried out...just budget tack. Don't waste your money on these boots , they have had their day and there is so much more out there if you care about decent shoes and your feet. If you like airwair type soles try Rydale boots, only 35 quid and my pair are into their 3rd winter and are still going strong, make DM's look like the joke that that they are now. Better still spend a bit more and get some Loakes or Trickers or similar and you'll have boots that will last a lifetime and actually get better with age.Rant over.

[@maqsoodhassan8978]

What is your opinion on solavairs?

[@balintkiss8741]

I managed to find a doc that was made before they switched to the Chinese factories. Gotta admit it, they are though, thougher than all my Chinese docs.

[@SidorenkoAaron]

Solovair used to make the soles of DM. Now they make their own and they are great!

[@Alexander.Christian-0612]

Breaking in the easiest in my opinion: laces as tight as possible, use every 8 holes. No oil treatment or something. Just wear them regularly. Start for very short time: a walk of 15 minutes around the corner or so. Use good hard wax to polish, sometimes liquid shoe polish. When the shoes are new your feet shouldn’t move a millimeter with laces as tight as possible. Break in through wearing. Mink oil and other strange stuff can change the leather permanently.

[@misterquintus]

Altbergs Ledergris Xtreme and a hairdryer works very well. Perhaps you would consider a resole/rebuild, while Brian the bootmaker does astonishing work, I've heard nothing but great word about Yorkshire Sole in Bradford if you want to keep it British.

[@vintageswiss9096]

He paid $180 for a pair of boots and after only 6 months he needs an $80 resole? This shits garbage...

[@Snooty-Cow]

I’ve seen wildly differing pictures of the Oxblood colour. Is this a typical representation of the colour?

[@samwiederspan8823]

Hey Devin, I know I’m late to the party but, I noticed a couple of things about the Made in England’s as well, I normally wear a 9.5 US but, my size 9 Made in England Docs fit like US 9.5s. So they run half a size bigger. I have narrow feet so the width works for me and sadly why Solovair’s won’t work as I have heard they run wide. Cheers. I dig your content and RoseAnvil’s you guys Rock....

[@hannsrhinesdale9769]

I'd like to ask the same, question, I can't find any info on wether the coated leather (in this case on my Solovair 8 hole derbys) even "accepts" any oils or balsams. It isn't permeable, is it? I guess after it cracks you need to treat in somehow, right? My coating of my older Martens cracked but the leather split as well.

[@TristanJCumpole]

Is it actually coated though? My understanding of corrected leathers such as Quilon is that it is 100% leather but the show surfaces are ironed smooth - for want of a better description - and then buffed, sometimes with faux natural hide patterns pressed in. Smooth corrected leathers just have a finish that doesn't seem to be improved with polish until they are broken through. My Solovair Astronauts are very much like this.

[@hannsrhinesdale9769]

@@TristanJCumpole Thanks, I'm not sure if this is exactly the case with the 8 Hole Derbys and 1460s, though. I researched a bit and on the NPS website (on the "about us" subpage) they talk about a "manmade coating" finish for their hi-shine leather shoes. Are Martens Made in England boots using the same smooth/hi-shine leather? Because youtube user Rose Anvil used Mink oil to break them in and it obviously had a huge effect!

[@TristanJCumpole]

@@hannsrhinesdale9769 I'm sure that high shine is that sort of lamper look rather than Quilon or smooth leather. The latter may have a coating, yes, however I'm mostly certain that actual Quilon is a "natural" corrected than a coated leather. I may be wrong. I think I'm going to apply mink oil to my DM Wincox (smooth leather I believe) and Solovair Astronauts since it's winter here in Finland. We'll see how that breaks smoothed, potentially coated, leathers. To be fair, I'm really gassing for some greasy leather boots....much easier maintenance, and you get what you see. I hope that Quinlon isn't being farmed out, because that would truly make DMs one more level worse than they are now.

[@Benzyl]

The glossy ones are certainly immune to any surface treatment I've ever tried, like patent leather, impenetrable till it's way too late.

[@graememorrison333]

Docs (Airwair/Solovair etc) were really designed to be stood in on a factory floor for hours on end, and not really for walking in. That's why the soles wear out so quickly and are rubbish for grip on outside surfaces. (We used to have sliding competitions in them on icy playgrounds back when i were a lad because they were so crap!). They never really were a serious boot tbh and are essentially now just a fashion item for young middle-class women and ageing lefties.

[@jonnyreggae100]

The soles wear out quickly because the rubber isn’t as hard wearing as it used to be. Back in the 70’s and 80’s they had a deserved reputation for being hard wearing but useless on a building site or hill walking

[@edk2221]

I have this exact Made in England model (Oxblood) and love them. Like you’ve said, I worry about the soles wearing out. For what they cost, I’d hope they would have lasted much longer

[@omisan771]

I wish they would just make the regular 10 eyelets boot with commando soles like they did back in the 90s. Right now it's a novelty thing that comes once in a while or on funky "Jadon" boots made for goth kids or what not.. The regular DM sole is terrible and outdated. The very least they could do is make the grooves deeper.

[@tobiaspieringer1653]

I have had, and still have my pair of standard 1460s in smooth black for about 4 years now. In my expierience what absolutely kills the boot is that the fabric and the top leather layer on the insoles start to delaminate, which causes the leather to slip forward and form a bulge exactly where the bone of your heel ends, which can make it painful to walk in the shoes. Shame that they dont offer new insoles, my toes almost dug through them by now. The other problem i have is that the soles wear off, but as far not as much as yours do. I also expierienced the cracks in the toe area, probably caused by working in the supermarket for a month, all while bending down and flexing the boot in exactly this area. But other then that, they held up perfectly, been to concerts, wore them almost every day, also in winter, rain, and mud, brought them to india as rainboots. No leaks, feet stayed dry.

[@plinkbottle]

Looks like my boot wear patterns. Heavy wear on the side of the heel calls for replacement boots too quick. The more wear, the more tendency to walk on the side of the foot.

[@skoot2u]

Cherry Blossom Oxblood works well for me and the shine is great.

[@benwaddington2475]

picked up some solovair dealer boots today....they seem more "grown up" than DMs. High quality aura like stuff from cheaney and others

[@Trebor-gw8lt]

Wow.....quite a bit of wear on the outsoles after only 6 months. Do you walk on sandpaper?

[@douglasdalen]

Do you think the fracap m120 boots you reviewed almost two years ago would be fit for winter? Are they warm enough and could they withstand snow?

[@mrgt3201]

They were very popular way before the 90s.

[@LunaRose1312]

From like the end of ww2 right

[@LunaRose1312]

They were popular with the working class from the 60s onwards 80s they blew up

[@LunaRose1312]

@Max Paine absolutely, skinhead right here got cherry red 1490s lol

[@foka.3kai]

@@LunaRose1312 whats the meaning of skinhead in english? In german neo nazis get described as skinheads

[@synthguy7774]

The docs in the 90s were much better and I stopped caring about the docs that are being sold nowadays. However, when I saw the Solovairs, it was a kick in the childhood since they looked more like the boots that made the docs great in the first place. It turns out that Solovair was actually a company that was contracted by Doc Martins from 1959-1996, which I would consider their iconic period. When Doc Martens decided to cut ties with Solovair, instead of Solovair closing up shop and selling their machines, they stayed in business and remained as a time capsule while Doc Martens started to slowly cheap out production, and finally, around the mid '00s, they manufactured oversees, where only 1 percent of Doc Martins are actually "Made in England." The only thing I'm going to miss is the iconic yellow laces that made the docs so iconic. But other than that, I'll be getting a boot that's more like the great Doc Martens as opposed to the Doc Martens nowadays.

[@soldierloz]

The 1980’s MIE line were superb. If you can get a new old stock pair of them you’ll be set. Sadly in the 90’s they sold their soul. Never been the same since - even the new MIE range. I wear Grinders now.

[@guitarmemoir]

I do the initial break-in by hand while I am watching TV. I just work all of the areas until the original stiffness is gone. Takes about an our per boot. It is easy to feel the difference when it becomes supple. Once I have done that I feel they conform to my feet better/faster, they are immediately comfortable and it prevents those annoying creases. Those creases will split on the Made in China Docs sometimes ime, so to me it is obligatory on MIC docs. But it saves the day aesthetically as well. All I want to see is the form of my feet. lol I bought two pair of Dr. Martens x The Who 1460 (MIC)- England size 9-last summer. One fit perfectly the other was super tight. Not too consistent. If they fit really tight I use a hairdryer and the balsam to stretch them out. Sometimes I will force a golf ball into areas that need to stretch to conform to my feet. The tight pair took a LOT of effort to break-in/stretch, over a couple of days. But they are my favourites now. I love my Chinese Docs boots, but my MIE Kudus and Brogues weigh more than the MIC boots. So that says something to me even as a layman. PS Great vid.

[@Bobby8270]

Just ordered a pair. What polish do u use for polishing them. Thanks.

[@garryfilby7217]

Polish I use timpsons cherry red and brings out a wonderful shine as well as protection I guess any good quality polish will do though

[@harvevision]

Just an FYI: Dr martens no long offer "Hard Life" greasy leather replacements for those who have the for life guarantee. They only offer the poor quality, basic 1460 "Smooth" styles.

[@sergiointerior]

Hi there! Dispite of the sole, you prefer docs or solovair?

[@borjasaz6611]

Hello, I have a question about these boots. I have two pairs, and although they are my size and my feet fit in OK, when I walk seems that the heel is not well gripped, and my toes touch the point of the boot. I had to use insoles that make smaller the room in my heel, so my toes don't move. Did you experience something like this???

[@fraac]

you could try mink oil on the inside to soften the leather

[@dringytube]

Hi .. I’ve recently started using coconut oil it has an amazing softening effect on leather if you haven’t tried ide reccomend it ..

[@lawrenceramone6336]

Same type that you use to cook?

[@dringytube]

Lawrence Ramone yes that’s right just warm it up and rub it in

[@maxbig9021]

@@dringytube ..... in ? Where in ?

[@erickt1974]

Planning on getting pair but have no idea on sizing. If I wear a 11 in the Asian docs should I size up to 12? I've got wide feet and all

[@sputumtube]

The chap you mentioned in the vid (Rose Anvil) reckons mink oil is excellent for the leather on smooth Dr Martens. Here's a link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gXTQfatrZr1-jNk Also, it's worth remembering that they can be re-soled (shouldn't be necessary of course but with the leather lasting longer than the sole it may be worth it to some).

[@mkn.567]

So I ordered a pair of Made in England 1460 oxblood boots from Dr. Marten. Everything else checks out, but there is one weird thing. The back of the tongue doesn't say "Made In England." It says "Dr. Martens, Docs." Is that a new thing?

[@stonefly514]

Leather Genie is the one. Beeswax based and nourishes and protects leather. Super easy to use and good for softening too!

[@carolinemackey8000]

It sounds harsh but after it was clear my feet wouldnt break in the heel of my MIE boots, I took a 7 oz hammer to them. It worked like a charm and I havent had problmes since nor did I cause damage to the boot.

[@antonyross9957]

,the boot is not broken in yet but the soul is done, looking at yours after 6 months i think i will puncture a pair in 4 ! put them on soak them in the bath and wear them till they dry. what costs a new soul fitted£ now , i am looking to buy a pair , would you buy another !

[@jasonrouse6912]

I feel Solovair are the Docs from the past. They're worth checking out to replace your Docs made in England

[@M82RKY]

Those soles are crazy mate after six months😳 Are those the Vegan leather? The brown tab usually suggests the vegan range but I may be wrong😂 Try out Renpour Leather Balsam to restore and sink into the leather, excellent stuff and goes on all my leather footwear and accessories like belts and watch straps.

[@Alexander.Christian-0612]

Don’t forget to use wooden shoe trees. These boots probably didn’t get them. But really thick and durable leather at all.

[@BroonParker]

Rose Anvil recommended mink oil to break in these. Any thoughts?

[@okoluet]

I find out that there are different soles, even at the made in England... there a actually 2 different types. Made in England and The Original - Made in England. The Shoes you review are the Made in England which have the weaker sole compared to the sole of the The Original - Made in England.

[@mikeogden5256]

10 hole MIE are My personal favorite

[@IsSeraProbleme]

Would you have a recommendation for this style of boot?

[@TristanJCumpole]

Dr Martens will not resolve their poor sole issue on the basis that it is built-in fixed product lifetime. Once the sole goes, you are again in the market for a pair of boots. A happy owner is no longer a customer in their mind, quite likely. On the subject of leather care, I've found that using a non-silicone containing polish does wonders. Avoid Kiwi Parade Gloss like the plague! Silicone-containing waxes seem to accelerate the leather degradation whilst providing a nice finish in the short term. On my Burgundy DM 1490s (and other DMs, Solovairs) which are similar to Oxblood, I've found that the Saphir Creme 1925 polish in Mahogany is a really nice complement. I certainly think that trying these out and doing a comprehesive experience breakdown as with your boots would be really nice to hear. Incidentally, I've actually started to darken my Burgundy 1490s with black Saphir polish to give them a bit of an antique sort of look. Once the pigments bed in, going back to Mahogany brings out a rich deep red with darker patination in the creases.....

[@lesliechiang1710]

I am surprise how the sole is worn after 6 months. I still have those old martens which last me at least 2, 3 years of daily use.

[@dainjarouz]

You wear those without insoles? I was under the impression that the MIE don’t come with insoles, you have to put your own insoles in. I have an older pair that killed my feet until I put in an insole ...

[@peterrussell8409]

Mink Oil to soften them up, balsom is really for weather protection

[@JimmyTwoShoes94]

If I wear a size 10 in redwing boots what size would i get in a MIE doc marten?

[@DrTech-pw2cu]

Put the leather conditioner or oil on the inside of the boot if it will not penetrate the outside of the boot.

[@zedspoint4614]

Mine got quite a bit of wobble on my left shoe as well. I find it annoying but not enough for me to do a tedious return processing

[@LacieCrazy]

These days they regularly have that wobble in that spot. It's a shame and I don't see why it needs to occur. With pairs from the 80's you can sometimes see where they have gone over that area again, just to flatten out the wobble.

[@TristanJCumpole]

I take it that's an Epiphone SG behind you?

[@lv2465]

Do you still have this pair?

[@RecklessFables]

I used to wear 1461s to work, but the soles were making the cost of ownership too high.

[@aboodalbaqshi194]

Can you do a review on solovair but the cherry red ones.. Thanx alot

[@fraac]

love your full life reviews

[@evaDsselesU]

Hi, i own a pair of 1460s made in Laos (on the tounge LAO PDR). I wear them 90% for the past half year, since august. I walk in them to school, to work, daily 5-7 kilometers, and my soles are very light worn just on the 'grain' pattern and the front toe area of the sole is little bit rounded. They are like new. I'm a normal tall 85kg guy so the wear isn't from the weight of the owner. Your walking style is the main reason that you wear off the sole.... My 2 cents. Anyway, very nice and informative video, keep up the good work. :)

[@dragonlover2085]

"Made in England" nowerdays doesn't mean the same as many years ago. I own a pair of Doc's thats nearly 30 years old. Made in England, of course. I love these boots, they look really good, even after this long period of wearing.

[@benharrison8975]

True , I have a 24 year old pair of DM’S that are in better shape than my newer made in England boots.

[@jiamingyan7901]

I'm wondering what you guys gonna do with those worn out boots, the uppers are pretty descent, I believe they can last years but they are hard to resole, isn't it too pity to just throw them away?

[@DevonReviewer]

In the UK we can get DMs resoled... my experience with most modern DMs (not MIE) is that it would not be worth the investment in resoling.

[@matttherrien9608]

@@DevonReviewer I'm thinking about getting a pair of 1460 Pascal Cavalier MIE, they're on sale through to site. Granted they are quite the investment. If I take care of the premium Horween Leather I like to have them re-soled two or three times. They want $315 Canadian, which I suppose is okay for quality, comfort and fashion.

[@marktoon3392]

I had this exact pair of boots. Within weeks, they developed a weird bubbling/raised area on the toes (happened with two pairs), and within the year, the leather had worn through on the front where they creased and the leather had split on the side. Utter shit.

[@toddkrump4520]

Thanks for the video But just like Red Wing and many other brands they all cut back on quality. Sad

[@markanderson3870]

I love Docs, but in 2021 there's no point. Doc soles are a deal-breaker. I bought Solovair 11-holes and the leather is better, the soles are wearing much better, and they're more comfortable. Solovair are basically more Doc's than Doc's. They look exactly like the Solovair Doc's they made way back, which I quite like. Good enough for me!

[@matttherrien9608]

The top of the line English made Docs withe the Horween Leather look good enough to invest in. That is if I can re-sole them as I've read I can. Going to call some cobblers in my area to confirm. Will still buy Solovairs ass well.😉

[@claymationwaves]

I wore a pair of made in china ones for years and they were amazing.. I also saw Jeff tweedy with a pair in 2007 that were sooo nice

[@minerforjob32]

douglas jardine quality became shit around 2012

[@maxbig9021]

@@minerforjob32 The R Griggs Group Limited, headed by Dr Martens founder Bill Griggs, has been acquired by Permira Funds for £300 million. The deal will be completed in January 2014.

[@xlartanislx]

The tread on these boots are what really irks me. Why make a boot that you cant resole that wears out so quick? I wish they made these boots with the ben z sole as opposed to these regular treads as the ben z has way more tread.