THE TRUTH Of Genshin Impact's NEW Wish System

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@RavenShugo
@RavenShugo 4 ай бұрын
That's not miscommunication from Hoyo. That's deliberate tell of half truths to make them look good and make a hype for a mental toddlers who are their fanbase. Same with artifact crafting - they made such a big deal out of it and acted so hyped and happy on livestream, while fanbase blow bubbles from their mouths and what we got? Limited till balls system, that many will forget exist in few months.
@lactoseman
@lactoseman 4 ай бұрын
hoyo: here you go guys! 4 years of horse manure! hoyobots: OMG DELICIOUS hoyo: thank you for being loyal sheep *crocodile tears*, now heres more horse manure topped with a little whipped cream! hoyoshills: GENSHIN COULD DEVS LISTENED 🗣🗣🗣
@Links-ghost
@Links-ghost 4 ай бұрын
That’s the most illogical shit I’ve ever heard. So they purposely made the system look WORSE than it actually was… to make themselves look good? Sure man. If this system carries over between banners then it’s more beneficial than a flat 5% increase imo. And even if you somehow disagree with that, the consolidated 5% increase is still better than how it was before. There is no negative there
@backpackpepelon3867
@backpackpepelon3867 4 ай бұрын
They even got dawei out with his crocodile tears and all. Their dedication to scamming players is pretty amazing tbh.
@RavenShugo
@RavenShugo 4 ай бұрын
@@Links-ghost I would prefer 55/45 from the get go, than a whale exclusive mechanic, that you will see maybe once in half year as a normal player. And that's generous, cause maybe you get it in a year.
@Kota-sk8sl
@Kota-sk8sl 4 ай бұрын
@@RavenShugo it’s not a whale exclusive mechanic, please learn how probability works
@drmigi
@drmigi 4 ай бұрын
Basically they just added a new animation when winning 50/50 lol
@Anika9691
@Anika9691 4 ай бұрын
That's what I have been saying since day 1 💀
@MegaDuke4life
@MegaDuke4life 4 ай бұрын
No because you wont see it every 50/50. You can win the 50/50 without seeing capturing radiance
@mmogemu02
@mmogemu02 4 ай бұрын
its not winning animation, rather increase your chance by 5%. So, you still can lose on 55%/45%
@herculesburgess6773
@herculesburgess6773 4 ай бұрын
​@@mmogemu02 Exacty
@IchigoMegumin
@IchigoMegumin 4 ай бұрын
i love the new animation 😀
@streetcrash9
@streetcrash9 4 ай бұрын
Did Hoyo lie? Technically no. Did Hoyo use deception with math? Big time yes!
@tundra2861
@tundra2861 4 ай бұрын
Is the joke on us for believing genshin could be improved?
@arkcanon1282
@arkcanon1282 4 ай бұрын
Yes
@joemahoma
@joemahoma 4 ай бұрын
They got away for 4 years why improve now
@zowie.nvermind
@zowie.nvermind 4 ай бұрын
Unfortunately there's people out there who thinks they are going to be respected as players now
@ahmedmubarak751
@ahmedmubarak751 4 ай бұрын
This is better than straight up five percent increase tho
@RafaelBanks69
@RafaelBanks69 4 ай бұрын
it's hilarious how people are trying so hard to interpret this negatively. The reality is that the system as it is now is significantly better than how it was described by hoyo. Instead of having a flat increase to the rates where you can still lose every 50/50 for the rest of eternity; there is now an additional pity system added on top of the 50/50 which means that even if you are the unluckiest person in the world, you will eventually be guaranteed to win the 50/50 after losing a certain amount of times. Not only is this a significantly better system that how it was described, it also reduces the randomness which would be present in a flat 5% increase because it allows you to plan your pulls around guaranteed radiance pity.
@laineysays
@laineysays 4 ай бұрын
It's so funny that people would prefer 5% increased probability of winning over a guaranteed win😂
@CaitSithNo2
@CaitSithNo2 2 ай бұрын
It's hilarious that people didn't read any patch note or dev note even until now.
@GESHU_L1N
@GESHU_L1N 4 ай бұрын
Reject Genshin Mauvika, embrace Changli the true Pyro archon 🔥 🔥
@kascimo
@kascimo 4 ай бұрын
We thought Genshin Could but Genshin proven us wrong
@Legend0077-g6z
@Legend0077-g6z 4 ай бұрын
😂😂
@Averageguy1221
@Averageguy1221 4 ай бұрын
We've been bamboozled
@herculesburgess6773
@herculesburgess6773 4 ай бұрын
Kascino No one care if your first in this comment my guy no offense ^^
@kascimo
@kascimo 4 ай бұрын
okay FU with all due respect^^
@John_II
@John_II 4 ай бұрын
Good analysis. I would echo your thoughts at around the 6:00 mark. In version 4.0 to 4.8, any time I wished for a new Fontaine character or an archon I lost the 50/50. That's Neuvillette, Furina, Venti, Navia, and Clorinde. I got Arlecchino at hard pity (wish 180, after going to 170 pulling for Neuvillette). And then for all the non-Fontaine characters, they landed early or I won the 50/50. Yae Miko landed on wish ~70 (maybe it was ~80), ditto Xianyun, and Hu Tao actually came on wish ~40 (maybe it was ~50). So my win/loss ratio for 50/50s in Fontaine (version 4) was 2 wins and 5 losses. That's worse the theoretical odds because the odds of losing multiples in a row isn't 50%, then 25%, then 12.5%, then 6.25% and so on. At some point it's so technically UNLIKELY (although not impossible) that you just don't believe it. I would also note that in version 3, when I was pulling on the limited banners for basically the first time (I started in 2.4): I had a better run with pulls... and I think that's because these were my first limited banners - I was getting double pulls on my first three standard banner wins: Kazuha/Keqing, Albedo/Qiqi, Zhongli/Jean. I don't think I ever hit the 50/50. I got Raiden and Ayato C0 with only 120 pulls later. I think this is meant to encourage you to pull - because it gives a false impression of the odds of winning... so you keep pulling and spend (more). Slowly but surely the odds have been getting worse and worse until now, when I basically need 180 wishes banked to make sure I get one copy of the character I want. My last two new characters being: Arlecchino who came home at hard pity, and Nilou was like wish 173 (7 shy of hard pity). I'm convinced these results are deliberate. I just can't prove it because it's only my experience and maybe the general numbers do not reflect this experience. However, if I was designing a slot machine, this is exactly how I'd do it. Win a lot early and then slowly decrease the odds to worst legally allowed ones to hook the player. It's basic psychology and a rudimentary analysis of slot machines reflects similar patterns are used to hook the player (gambler). I haven't even touched the sunk cost fallacy and "in for a penny" type thinking. Nothing wrong with pulling or spending; Genshin's beautiful world, music and characters shouldn't be free; it cost $700,000,000 to make (and counting) but you need to be informed. And I highly recommend anyone who spends money on a gacha game MAKE A SPREAD SHEET of how much you spent, on what day, on whom/what banner. See if the e.g. $50 you spent actually made you any happier. Ask yourself did you even get the character you wanted? Was Diluc's outfit worth the $15? (of course it was... don't lie :P) What's your running total? How much do you spend per month / per year? Have you hit your spending limit? And so on... Take the emotion out of it, you need something to stare you in the face in situations like this because gachas/slot machines are designed to hijack your brain so you don't think rationally. Of course, everyone's finances are different. I don't know what you can afford. But your spreadsheet will.
@luutio9000
@luutio9000 4 ай бұрын
Or you were simply lucky at the beginning of the game... and now you have a streak of being unlucky. Personally havent been lucky ever in genshin always hard pity and always losing 50/50.
@John_II
@John_II 4 ай бұрын
@@luutio9000 You got a point there.
@GeneralChrisGaming
@GeneralChrisGaming 4 ай бұрын
TL:DR you need to lose 3 50/50 to guarentee 100%. In other words ur going to win 1 50/50 about every year.
@mandalorian3354
@mandalorian3354 4 ай бұрын
lose 50/50 the guarantee is still there
@GeneralChrisGaming
@GeneralChrisGaming 4 ай бұрын
@@mandalorian3354 @@mandalorian3354 no, wrong u have a 5050 if u lose and the game take note u lost the first 50 50 next none guarantee is still 5050 but now u have 1 point. If u lose now its 75/25 with 2 points if u lose its 100/0 with 3 points than it resets. 50/50 - 0 50/50 -1 75/25 -2 100/0 -3 Reset
@GeneralChrisGaming
@GeneralChrisGaming 4 ай бұрын
Stop deleting your comments cause now ur stupidity is spamming. Learn to listen its, u have a 50/50 if u lose and the game take note u lost the first 50/50 as a oh u got unlucky next none guarantee is still 50/50 but now u have 1 point this is game saying you unlucky. If u lose now its 75/25 with 2 points if u lose the next off pitty is now its 100/0 with 3 points than it resets these chances and your guarantee pitty. 50/50 - 0 points 50/50 -1 points 75/25 -2 points 100/0 -3 points Reset If a FP2 plays their cards correctly they can infact get two limited time 5 stars if they lose their 75/25 and is now on 100/0 as now they can get 2 guarantees in a row.
@xdragon2k
@xdragon2k 4 ай бұрын
Which is why they gave us that free 5-star choice so you are not losing out on a standard banner character that you would have gotten in the old system.
@GeneralChrisGaming
@GeneralChrisGaming 4 ай бұрын
@@xdragon2k nah they did that bec wuthering wave gave us a 5 star selector as damage control for all the problems and people loved it. Mihoyo decided to one up by saying every year but I know kuro will do something bigger
@mohammadamaan3140
@mohammadamaan3140 4 ай бұрын
Its better than 55/45 tbh as someone who lost 50/50 6 times in a row it really saves me some mental straining
@RafaelBanks69
@RafaelBanks69 4 ай бұрын
exactly, this is significantly better than a flat increase. even with 55/45, you could still lose that 55% every single time.
@Nirabayl
@Nirabayl 4 ай бұрын
THIS! The capturing radiance system is meant to help those players who keep losing over and over again, which makes the system actually even better than how it was advertised. Players are just mad because if you have average luck, you will mostly be unaffected by this new system.
@gintobitim1611
@gintobitim1611 4 ай бұрын
Yup.. just like critrate. There's really no difference between 50% and 55%. A guaranteed after 2 failures is actually better.
@Artonecy
@Artonecy 4 ай бұрын
BRO STOLE THE STIOORG INTRO SONG
@mtscsealer
@mtscsealer 4 ай бұрын
your intro song O U R I T R O S O N G
@cherozkiahyusof4902
@cherozkiahyusof4902 4 ай бұрын
Oit Art where your natlan video
@kascimo
@kascimo 4 ай бұрын
Expected🤐🤐
@gunjitkumar
@gunjitkumar 4 ай бұрын
OUR intro song
@razornad1299
@razornad1299 4 ай бұрын
The cult is build diffrent …. It doesnt matter how many time they get scam, abuse or lie …. They will still throw their money to their cult …. Hail hoyo daddy
@Icegaze039
@Icegaze039 4 ай бұрын
Idk don't know how to feel about the fact removing the last 3 words of your comment makes it applicable to way to many things in society nowaday...
@Clourie
@Clourie 4 ай бұрын
First 50/50 mean nothing. It only matter if u lose the first 50/50.
@SolVulkan
@SolVulkan 4 ай бұрын
This feature might be better long run as a safety net, we're not Mtashed after all. but Hoyo dropped the ball explaining it.
@lencina3608
@lencina3608 4 ай бұрын
Yes keep playing genshin, you get exactly what you deserve. Gotta thank genshin players on the end of the day, if it wasn't for genshin we wouldn't have great gachas like WuWa.
@KriskaLariska146
@KriskaLariska146 4 ай бұрын
"Tnank you, Da Wei" huh, genshin players? Lmao
@GarySlayer
@GarySlayer 4 ай бұрын
ROFL 3 years and only won 5050 once only fkin once. And people complaing why genshin/gacha is hated.
@Koulechov
@Koulechov 4 ай бұрын
who would've thought.
@halenlozano5240
@halenlozano5240 4 ай бұрын
Just use 1 pull button rather than 10 pulls it will save you more, base on my experience I get higher chance to get early on single pulls than the 10 pulls and on 10 pulls 90% of what you'll get will be junk weapons on the other hand single pulls sometimes gives me 2-3 4star characters or weapon on ten single pulls.
@luutio9000
@luutio9000 4 ай бұрын
It doesnt matter btw. The odds are still same xd.
@Primarina.
@Primarina. 4 ай бұрын
6:44 is so true. back when i first started playing HSR, i saved a few months worth of stellarjades as a new player and my first ever 10 pulls, I pulled firefly immediately. my first 5 star character! definitely made me want to play the game more
@bitboss1385
@bitboss1385 4 ай бұрын
and that why i keep my expectations low, im not disappointed because i never hope for anything 😂
@gunjitkumar
@gunjitkumar 4 ай бұрын
It's actually the 10% chance of getting the 4th Wish Animation 😂😂
@liquidefreet
@liquidefreet 4 ай бұрын
It's for people like me that had lost coinflips 12 times in a row over 2 years of playtime. They're trying to get that player retention however they can. I won't change anything for me, it will make me win coinflip maybe one more time a year than beofre at best lol. Cursed seed account is real.
@limkorvey1929
@limkorvey1929 4 ай бұрын
Its not that english is difficult for them because during the stream they refused to explain anything while the entire community were trying to figure out this new bs pity system and until now its still hard for people to proof it because well u have to whale or pull alot to see it happen.
@KreythosDK
@KreythosDK 4 ай бұрын
The only thing this doesn’t account for is people who don’t upload thier wishes to this site, sure there is a high amount of pools but if it’s the same number of people posting the pulls l, the numbers aren’t likely to change
@Lew98765
@Lew98765 4 ай бұрын
The problem that make it a scam is that they didn't market it correctly They presented it as a way to "save you from losing the 50/50" The thing is that it doesnt because you have to lose it at least once for capturing radiance to be able to trigger Thats how everyone learned it was a scam because no one got it when losing their 50/50, I see it being usefull for whales or very unlucky players I assume it resets when you win so its really if you lose several times in a row, but do we know if it also reset when banner changes ?
@htet2002linn
@htet2002linn 4 ай бұрын
Wait it reset? You mean it reaet after each 5050 win ?
@Lew98765
@Lew98765 4 ай бұрын
@@htet2002linn yes it does normaly because its made to prevent losing 50/50 several times in a row First tirst time its 50/50, if you lose next is guaranted, capturing radiance cannot happen the first time After the guaranted the Capturing radiance will get added to the rates, so the 50/50 become 75/25 If you lose again then next is guaranted as usual At this point if you have lost 50/50 two times the captured radiance set the rates to 100% you cannot lose, but it takes to losd 2 time so that you cannot lose the third And yes again if it counts losing several times in a row it do reset when you win which doesnt count the guaranted one, its like a second guarantee system
@luutio9000
@luutio9000 4 ай бұрын
Isnt that just how it works? It saves you from losing too many 50/50 in a row. What is btw better than just having flat 55/45.
@Lew98765
@Lew98765 4 ай бұрын
@@luutio9000 its not necessarily better than 55/45 because you have to lose several times in a row for it to apply, on long term this just prevent losing many times in a row but the average is still gonna be 50/50
@luutio9000
@luutio9000 4 ай бұрын
@@Lew98765 Its still better for majority of players and lot better for unlucky players. Ofc wont affect you if you are lucky but then you have no reason to cry anyway so... This way its better for everyone rather than being better for lucky people.
@dn32585
@dn32585 4 ай бұрын
my 5 stars drop in the 70's every time. 90% of the time it will be the banner character. I really dont even understand when the 50/50 is supposed to be cause its always the same for me. if i dont have enough to get to the 70's im not getting any 5 star. I have either lost every 50/50 or is the 70s spot my 50/50 and i won most i dont know.
@Noobster474
@Noobster474 4 ай бұрын
This is official, Genshin is finally removing the Gacha aspect from the game to make it as FRIENDLIEST as possible for everyone! Soon, people will realize that Dawei is ready to clear this Gacha genre of Trash and Cheap copies of Genshin
@ste---ny4lh
@ste---ny4lh 4 ай бұрын
I have lost over 3 50/50s in a row, so this is in a way better than a 55/45 flat
@theRaika
@theRaika 4 ай бұрын
My understanding behind the new wishing system is, when you are on a 50:50 and triggering a 5* pull, you have a 55% chance to trigger the special "lucky I am him" animation. The 55% chance was never for an increase in the original 50:50 but is a separate system that may or may not trigger on a 55% chance to grab the guaranteed. The 55:45 going around was people's misunderstanding. The underlining mechanics of hidden pity if you lose the 55% chance on the new system is completely fair on hoyo, as just like the soft pity on banners (may trigger 5* at 76-78 pulls) was never stated by them themselves but was figured out by players.
@zenockami
@zenockami 4 ай бұрын
In razor speak if your on a 5050 lose streak than you will proc radiance
@Ren_rz
@Ren_rz 4 ай бұрын
Atleast understand before you hate on it, it was never made to increase the odd of winning 50/50s but to reduce the odds of lossing more then 2 50/50s which is far better then just flat put increasing the chance to 55/45 because then wouldn't change anything if your luck just sucks you'd be even more depressed about your ass lick that even with increased odds you lost. If you lose first 2 times you lose the 3rd will increase you're odds to the 55/45 you lose again and then they just take pity and make it a guaranteed so in the ginal scenario assuming you're luck just sucks ass you'll have 3 guaranteed in a row
@1Apex_LegendProMaster007
@1Apex_LegendProMaster007 4 ай бұрын
It's more generous now while WuWa is 50/50 which is bummer
@Coffin_House
@Coffin_House 4 ай бұрын
This is honestly confusing for me, but very interesting.
@etherealnight1722
@etherealnight1722 4 ай бұрын
Watch this vid to know what it feels like to whale but still keep on losing. kzbin.info/www/bejne/p52QmXibgamshqcsi=uu6_ujTYft2nhN_L The guy basically lost 50/50 6 times in Itto character banner and 2 times on Itto weapon banner. A total of 8 times if I'm not mistaken.
@oyfum2638
@oyfum2638 4 ай бұрын
When ate you going to cover pokke and Iyo drama?
@Carnagee2208
@Carnagee2208 4 ай бұрын
i have lost 2 50/50 back to back before 5.0 , so can i get the 75/25 in this banner or no
@abelingaw5070
@abelingaw5070 4 ай бұрын
I have a C6 Qiqi which is enough to know that GI pity system is sht.
@laineysays
@laineysays 4 ай бұрын
Mine would have been c8😂 i just lost to her again in Nilou's rerun. While Jean, my first 5* from version 1, is still c0.🙂
@Sao0011
@Sao0011 4 ай бұрын
my Qiqi is freaking C12 😂
@laineysays
@laineysays 4 ай бұрын
@@Sao0011 That is insane😅😭i wish they come up with other items in place of it, like an option to convert it to more useful stuff like fragile resins or billets even, anythingggg.😂
@Sao0011
@Sao0011 4 ай бұрын
@@laineysays I don't think anyone notice. Hoyo switch Character banner ( 50/50 to 100% ) to old weapon banner ( the one with 25/75 , 50/50 then 100% ) for those who remember. Weapon banner need Fate point. Remember what Fate point is? every time you lose 50/50 , it goes to become 1 fate point so until you lose 2 times the 3rd time will be guarantee for the weapon you choose. Now , they listened to their shills and change the weapon banner to 50/50 While Character Banners....go figures it out by yourself and compare to the old weapon banner ( the one with Fate points )
@laineysays
@laineysays 4 ай бұрын
@@Sao0011 Yup i remember and the weapon banner before they introduced the 2 fate points system, is simply the worst of all. In those versions i had no interest at all in pulling for a limited weapon. I only started pulling on weap banner when Shenhe was released.❤️
@ymullaney70
@ymullaney70 4 ай бұрын
LMAO! That is so not fair... that can't be called 'skill issue' if WE can't do anything to fix it! 😂😂😂
@xdragon2k
@xdragon2k 4 ай бұрын
So the new term now: 50/50, then 75/25, and finally 100%. Also, the higher rate resets if they win the 50/50 or 75/25, right?
@zukodude487987
@zukodude487987 4 ай бұрын
I dont understand the issue here. Its 55/45 and at the end its still 55/45 so its true and nothing false. This is a nothing video, we say its a problem, but then say its not. Its a 55/45 rate, but its heavily back loaded which just means that this effect rewards long term players more. Considering weapon banners improvement and this together its overall a win.
@pandan__
@pandan__ 4 ай бұрын
This is why I hate consolidated probability because there is always a caveat to it. Mainly because a small group of hoyoverse players that knows nothing about probability like to spread misinformation to inflate their gacha rate saying the rates are 1.6% and not 0.6% and how unlikely it is to reach soft pity. If they knew anything about basic statistics they would know about 2/3 of players will reach soft pity and that the consolidated rate evens out in the long run after hundreds of pulls.
@williancandidodesouza5030
@williancandidodesouza5030 4 ай бұрын
In guenshing i never won a 50/50 and i have never won a early 5 star on the rate up banner always hard pitty
@pandan__
@pandan__ 4 ай бұрын
@@williancandidodesouza5030I understand how you feel. I lost 8/10 50 50s in HSR with the majority of them past soft pity before I eventually dropped the game. On the bright side, it’s more difficult to lose 3 and impossible to lose 4 50 50s in Genshin now.
@dan2800
@dan2800 4 ай бұрын
I started playing then I stopped decided at random to play did a ten pull I got diluc on beginner banner I didn't know anything about it I didn't saw the rates so I didn't think it was anything special then again didn't play for a long time and got back into it in 3.7 and after some time a realised oh crap that ten pull was lucky AF but still my genshin luck is terrible AF I'm rn sitting at 38,46% 50/50 winrate on character out of 13 50/50 I won only 5 so far and I'm a dolphin I would say BP with welkin and once or twice a year a top-up meanwhile in HSR I'm killing it with 78,57% 50/50 winrate I mean 58/42 where out of 14 50/50s I won 11 and I'm completly F2P for LCs 4/4 while 3/4 being early and for character banner 9/16 being below 74 softpity
@zefriam6885
@zefriam6885 4 ай бұрын
Basically you can't lose 50/50 3x consecutively cause the 3rd time will always be 100%
@tetraavalon3664
@tetraavalon3664 4 ай бұрын
Definitely a whale mechanic. I don't think I've ever lost 3 50/50s in a row. The fact that winning a 50/50 breaks the streak is peak hoyo.
@luutio9000
@luutio9000 4 ай бұрын
Yeah but then there are those who have lost 50/50 10times. You are just lucky af so stop crying xD.
@tetraavalon3664
@tetraavalon3664 4 ай бұрын
@@luutio9000 stop projecting lmao.
@luutio9000
@luutio9000 4 ай бұрын
@@tetraavalon3664 what? The fact is that its not just for whales its for unlucky players. F2p or whale. Its better this way
@tetraavalon3664
@tetraavalon3664 4 ай бұрын
@@luutio9000 I agree that it helps unlucky players, but you'll only see that every 6+ patches lmao.
@SirSaif93
@SirSaif93 4 ай бұрын
Can we just confirmed Genshin Could never is staying on and will never gonna go 😂
@j4nk3n
@j4nk3n 4 ай бұрын
If you are the most unlucky whale alive and you would of lost every 50/50 and go to 80+ every time, you can now get c6 80+ wishes early 😂
@DarkSpiritslayer
@DarkSpiritslayer 4 ай бұрын
this system is kinda made for me … cause is lose pretty much every single 50/50 … Q_Q i would have activated the new „garanteed 50/50 win“ multiple times already … -_- i play since launch and i think i only won like 3 50/50s (1x Kazuha, 1x Ei, 1x someone else cant remember) so far which is absolutely terrible i already calculated multiple time how low the odds are for me to lose so many 50/50s (in a row) and i think im already under a 1% chance of it happening to lose so many 50/50s … but somehow i manages to achieve this near impossible task >_> my friends already make fun of me cause i will need this new change guaranteed … multiple times in a row Q_Q
@DarkSpiritslayer
@DarkSpiritslayer 4 ай бұрын
yes just checked my history i didnt track some info but my last pulls: but in my last pulls i lost 5 50/50s in a row >_> (1.) lost 50/50 (cant remember who i got - i think Jean) -> guaranteed Yoimiya -> (2.) lost 50/50 (useless Dehya...) -> guaranteed Furina -> (3.) lost 50/50 (useless Dehya again ...) -> guaranteed Navia -> (4.) lost 50/50 (god damn Tighnari ... i hate him) -> guaranteed Chiori -> (5.) lost 50/50 (Jean) -> guaranteed Arlecchino i really should quit gachas with this kind of shit "luck" / skill issue xD
@HenriettaThera
@HenriettaThera 4 ай бұрын
696 Ratke Islands
@darylz1497
@darylz1497 4 ай бұрын
perks only for those who can afford it. Me personally? Genshin doesn't deserve my money anymore so whatever i get i go with it.
@WastedTalent83
@WastedTalent83 4 ай бұрын
Im not talking about the new system because im disgusted . but im talking about the 50/50. for my personal experience there is no bad or good luck in this system. You just need to play enough time for it to even out. My personal example. First 2 years of Genshin, i barely lost any 50/50 at all. You would think , that's lucky" Well , no its not, because after the 2 years, i've been losing 90% of the 50/50 , and only sometimes getting the banner character, its slowly getting even with the luck i had at the start because its 50%.... So if you're unlucky now, just keep playing later on you will win most of the 50/50. Sure some people need MORE time to even out or less, but it will surely even at some point, just play another.... 10 years XD
@angeloguerra5606
@angeloguerra5606 4 ай бұрын
Hoyoversee is allergic as fuck for three things: good skins, QOL upgrades with decent/no downsides and clear communication
@tronskye7756
@tronskye7756 4 ай бұрын
I quit genshin after 3 years of playing and I never once won a single 50 50, yet in several other gacha I started playing shortly after starting genshin I won several 50 50 in those others, in the end I got tired of how the whole game is, raiden, zhongli, venti those were some of my most hated banners, no archon banner whatsoever I quit and gave up on hope of ever getting an archon oil n that game, the last one i got was arlecchino after losing a 50 50 as well, and I questioned myself wtf am I disturbing my mind over this game coz truth be told in the other games yeah I wouldn't win all but in like 5 banners I'd win 50 50 on like 3 of them but genshin 😢 that a game I had to leave for the sake of my sanity coz even the other aspects of the game itself don't give me any incentive to play it anymore just bunch of lie and false Hope's for the biggest part like the new artifact system and now this wish nonsense
@Kota-sk8sl
@Kota-sk8sl 4 ай бұрын
It’s 55/45. This conspiracy theory that it’s actually a stacking thing and blah blah blah comes from a few people who used the paimon website wish tracker to gather data. The problem is less than 50k people use that tracker lmao.
@Kota-sk8sl
@Kota-sk8sl 4 ай бұрын
Correcting myself before someone else does, now the paimon site shows 102k users…that’s still a fraction of the tens of millions of monthly Genshin players lol
@alavien
@alavien 4 ай бұрын
ppl like this youtuber will always bitch ;d its normal ;x wuwa simps now are more scary than genshin simps ;x
@zenockami
@zenockami 4 ай бұрын
I’m who this system is made for btw I never win 5050s so this is good for me I lost 10 5050s in a row😢
@Chinwe94
@Chinwe94 4 ай бұрын
So in other words its like Tower of fantasy pity system, except there is no inverse which as someone who went through that experience, I will take it but won't lie is misleading what they marketed
@laineysays
@laineysays 4 ай бұрын
It's much better than how it was marketed tho
@wikidpsycokilla
@wikidpsycokilla 4 ай бұрын
Im pretty sure this guy is talking out of his ass. He gives no source for his statement that capturing radiance will hit 100% after multiple losses. Nowhere did Hoyo state that the probability for capturing radiance to trigger scales with losses. They directly state that when you lose the 50/50, there is a chance for it to trigger, and if it does trigger the result of the 50/50 gets thrown out and you get the character anyway. It is NOT a second pity, it is a totally separate roll, meaning you can still lose every 50/50 without ever triggering capturing radiance, while at the same time there is a chance of triggering it every time you lose. When getting a 5 star there are now three different outcomes, two of which result in getting the correct character, and the existence of this third outcome only increases your chances of getting the character by 5%.
@blackdragons8168
@blackdragons8168 4 ай бұрын
Maybe I am just being to pessimistic but why are we assuming that this new pity will carry over to other banners? This system might really only be useful to unlucky whales
@tramy_kun_gaming4713
@tramy_kun_gaming4713 4 ай бұрын
genshin still could never
@yuujilee2778
@yuujilee2778 4 ай бұрын
I still don’t get it, if u lost ur first 50/50 isn’t that the next s will be the certain up character?why now what I heard is like u losing 50/50 will become more often… only this come into my mind
@kotowaru0
@kotowaru0 4 ай бұрын
I'm not sure how much the chance of triggering radiance truly is to know how many times you have to lose in a row so it becomes guaranteed to trigger, but the idea is something like Lose>Guarantee>Lose>Guarantee>Lose>Guarantee>Radiance it could also take more or less losses before radiance activates, so yes, you still get a guarantee after losing the 50/50 and then after the guarantee you are once again on a 50/50 chance, if you have lost many times in a row and lose once again, radiance might trigger if during this chain of losses you actually win a 50/50 i guess the chance of radiance would reset (I'm guessing it will reset cause on the livestream they advertised the radiance as a way to help unlucky players, as in, players that always lose their 50/50)
@yuujilee2778
@yuujilee2778 4 ай бұрын
@@kotowaru0 then why would need that capture light to lose 50/50 at the first place? after we lost 50/50 then the next s will the 100% uprate character isnt it? i tot it would be in this ur first within 90 pulls u might lose ur 50/50 then in this 50/50 we filp one more coin the is capturing light 55/45(so what’s the chance for triggering capture light?) so what’s the changes? Why do we need that capturing radiances at the first places? I don’t follow the concepts that hoyoverse trying to making losing 50/50 is a normal things… don’t get me wrong, since honkai impact3, do I hate hoyoverse/mihoyo? Yes do I love mihoyo?Yes, want me to spend money on hoyoverse? Get us real goodies I rather buy foods for homeless shelter and I call it well money spent …
@kotowaru0
@kotowaru0 4 ай бұрын
@@yuujilee2778 just to be clear I'm not defending anyone, I just want to explain how I understood the system. To make a long story short, the only idea behind the new system is to make sure people never lose like 4 or more 50/50s in a row, only that. It is not meant to be a flat increase on the chance of getting a featured 5 star all the time, but rather only if you have been unlucky enough to lose several consecutive 50/50 in a row
@jhonnhey454
@jhonnhey454 4 ай бұрын
I think after 4 to 5 years of Genshin their Weapon Banner should be no 50/50 or 75/25 lol their greediness for Money is Bottomless SMH...add HSR LC Gacha too 😂😂😂
@sudiptaday7875
@sudiptaday7875 4 ай бұрын
Damn didn't know the channel that claimed up using other people's drama still uploads
@danielhisham7110
@danielhisham7110 4 ай бұрын
Its more like a whale system tbh, not really a scam for those who understands it but it is a scam for those who are blind and cannot read😂😂
@aziz-nationalhaq6511
@aziz-nationalhaq6511 4 ай бұрын
Did the devs themselves say it or explained it how it works?
@Anika9691
@Anika9691 4 ай бұрын
​@@aziz-nationalhaq6511not on livestream they didn't
@Averageguy1221
@Averageguy1221 4 ай бұрын
They advertised it like your chances have been increased Or like Genshin Players called it "F2P Saviour"
@JPS13Laptop
@JPS13Laptop 4 ай бұрын
@@Averageguy1221 I mean at least you can technically have the chance to get the limited character more often now.
@Averageguy1221
@Averageguy1221 4 ай бұрын
@@JPS13Laptop isnt like 50/50 first then if you lose its gonna be 55/45? And if you win that then ur back to 50/50?
@SnowWolfK
@SnowWolfK 4 ай бұрын
Genshin being Genshin again lol
@kasmichan
@kasmichan 4 ай бұрын
so is there proof that there are players who actually lost all 50/50 chances without triggering the radiant wish? like let's say 4 50/50's and still lost?
@williancandidodesouza5030
@williancandidodesouza5030 4 ай бұрын
The 4 one in a row os now inposible tô lose as It woud be the 100 garante New sistem, and It would bê higly unlikely as the 3 "50/50" is now a 75/25 chance, and this sistem os probably a Second triger If you Lost the original 50/50
@kasmichan
@kasmichan 4 ай бұрын
@@williancandidodesouza5030 i see..good then
@Bullminator
@Bullminator 4 ай бұрын
Palamena is more hot pyro archon than genshin one. She steps on monsters to kill them.
@MayFive55
@MayFive55 4 ай бұрын
I dont feel Genshin was improved 😂
@k-BlazeWW30
@k-BlazeWW30 4 ай бұрын
well guaranteed system stil exist so no one cares about this one unless your totally the most impatient loser ofc
@alavien
@alavien 4 ай бұрын
srsly u can be wuwa simp but why u cant even admit that natlan is great improved weapon banner is good and this video misleading ppl only .. first 55/45 its not ok and later its ok? geez men go play wuwa no one forcing u to play genshin i dont get it whats your problem x.x?
@Links-ghost
@Links-ghost 4 ай бұрын
Hoyo did not miscommunicate. People just don’t know what consolidate means I guess. This same wording has been in their banner descriptions FROM THE START to explain the 4 and 5 star rate with the hard pity included. The consolidated rate is higher than base rate because it accounts for the guarantee. It is the same thing here. A consolidated rate of 55% does not mean a flat 55/45 to anyone who knows what consolidated means. No offense, but the irony of you asking if English was too hard was not lost on me. Stop calling it misinformation, stop calling it a scam, stop trying to blame your own misunderstandings on others. And once again, the irony of KZbinrs/content creators calling out hoyo for “misinformation” is not lost on me. I know it’s the KZbin game, but some of these thumbnails man
@Orange-d3i
@Orange-d3i 4 ай бұрын
stay angry, thanks for featuring genshin on your contents.
@herculesburgess6773
@herculesburgess6773 4 ай бұрын
Orange-D3I ......................
@herculesburgess6773
@herculesburgess6773 4 ай бұрын
Orange-D3I Why you guy's have to say little negative thing's?........
@Orange-d3i
@Orange-d3i 4 ай бұрын
@@herculesburgess6773 maybe ask that to the CC and the video creator. It's just hilarious seeing them angry.
@alavien
@alavien 4 ай бұрын
hes always angry xD thats his problem lol xD
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