THE TRUTH: Ontario Target vs. Non-Target Universities

Sorry guys. I meant that in November of 2020 (not 2019), I landed my first finance internship.
TLDW:
IMHO: Go where you’ll be happy and you will thrive
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[@novembero4769]

Honestly dude I LOVE U! U always make the best videos that make some impactful points, and just overall provide me a new perspective on how to look at things :)

[@itswynette]

AHHHH! TY! This is a new perspective for me too. It has changed the way I think. It does not make sense to let anyone or ANYTHING (even your school) define you. You make your own successes!

[@athangraham3982]

Great video. Definitely agree. The school that you go to doesn't define how you will do not just in the finance world, but in general. Those sites like Macleans are just full of publicity and those ratings are just numbers by the end of the day. Just want to say thanks because your videos have helped me a lot through my application process this year. Keep up all the great work you're doing at mac!

[@itswynette]

Yes! Not just for finance, but for anything - software eng, medicine, etc. Thanks for all your support Athan! Happy I could help :D

[@emilycooper4673]

Thank you for this video!! I’m currently in my first year at DeGroote and I was really unsure at first. I’ve loved watching your videos and they have helped convince me that I made the right decision.

[@itswynette]

Emily!!! You are so welcome. I had the exact same dissonance when I first started. You picked a great school and I will be here to help you! Add me on LinkedIn or shoot me a comment at anytime. Happy to help my fellow Mac student. :D

[@emilycooper4673]

@@itswynette Thank you!! I’m looking forward to (hopefully) being on campus next year!

[@itswynette]

@@emilycooper4673 100%! Please stay in touch.

[@davinsoro8582]

I feel like god just blessed me with this video. I have been thinking a lot about this recently and I’m trying to decide between Laurier bba and Ivey hba. I really don’t like 2+2 and lack of co op at ivey, but I keep telling myself it’s better simply cause it’s a “target school”. I think what you were saying about going somewhere you’ll thrive has been something I’ve been subconsciously feeling. Thanks for making this, I feel like my choice is a lot clearer now!

[@itswynette]

DAVIN you are absolutely welcome!!! University should be fun. Both schools are fantastic - so go where you’ll enjoy the ride!!!

[@LeechUFC]

The 2+2 at Ivey is actually pretty neat because it helps you transition better and if you make it a 3+2, even better. Plus if you go dual with a co-op program like (i believe) engineering, that’s a major plus. I know guys in third, fourth year working at Goldman Sachs and Google at Ivey

[@itswynette]

@@LeechUFC Good point! It's certainly a great option for those that are into that.

[@davinsoro8582]

@@LeechUFC ya I think it’s like what she said about finding what works for u and where you’ll be able to thrive

[@taranvirsekhon1896]

@@davinsoro8582 haha dude ima laurier bba grad who works at google now hopefully you chose the program.

[@mattt1624]

This makes me feel a lot better about choosing Mac commerce over laurier bba. Thanks!

[@optimusreimz4593]

Needed this video😄 Current Grade 12 right who's applying to business and I'm exactly what you've described - I care about starting salary, rankings, etc. Gonna be thinking a lot after this. Too bad I wasn't able to tour universities cause of the pandemic :(

[@itswynette]

I'm so glad I could help. Just remember the ONLY question worth answering: "Where will I be happiest?"

[@user-in8sp9xs3e]

Yo how's it going? I'm applying in grade 12

[@acbsco]

No idea why I stumbled across your video as someone who already graduated but 100% agree with you that students should choose a university they see themselves thriving at instead of focusing on rankings. I think the same can apply for job hunting too - smaller firms or lesser known companies can sometimes pay more and give you a better experience. Graduated from Laurier BBA in the middle of the pandemic and I think I turned out fine :) you end up working with all the Ivey, Queens and Rotman kids anyways after you graduate so might as well save the $$$ going to a more lowkey school.

[@itswynette]

Thank you so much for this detailed comment. I am sure many viewers will find calmness and confidence reading this. Everything does work out! It is all about doing things you like and what makes you happy. Money will follow. I’m very happy I chose Mac and it sounds like you are very happy with your BBA @ Laurier :)

[@freeetrialll386]

Hey is there a lot of math used at degroote? Lowkey worried I’m so bad at calc and functions

[@itswynette]

Nope! Don't worry about it.

[@sociopath9931]

Great video🤟🏻btw could u make one video taking about what to ask during coffee chat/networking plzzzzz

[@LeechUFC]

Agreed. Connections mean more for that job than any business program will do for you :(

[@itswynette]

Yep - you just gotta go out and make them!

[@fazalahmed5480]

Hey could you tell me what’s the difference between a MB and a MBA in McMaster?

[@FromTorontoCanada]

Good perspective Wynette and thanks for the shout-out. ;-)

[@itswynette]

“NO”

[@anushkaganesh7731]

Beautifully put!

[@leakim8153]

I'm still waiting to hear from ontario business schools & was worried about literally everything you mentioned here.. especially how reddit keeps saying western and queens are the best for business lol. Deep down I know that I don't really click with both schools. I needed honest insight & this was so helpful. Thanks!

[@itswynette]

Omg I also didn’t click with either of those schools. I didn’t wait to admit it either. Really just go where you’ll be the most comfortable. School should be fun after all. Lmk if I can help in any way!

[@leakim8153]

@@itswynette Aw thanks! One question, do you remember when you received your acceptances for most schools? I'm freaking out rn haha

[@itswynette]

@@leakim8153 My first one from Mac was in late Feb. Rotman around March. Western Ivey in May.

[@leakim8153]

@@itswynette ah i see. thx for letting me know :)

[@earth2sar]

hey wynette, i'm soon hoping to be accepting my offer for social sciences for psych, i was wondering if you knew anything about the difficulty level of the math course(s) you need to take for psych? math is not my strong suit and i didn't take many math courses in high school so i'm super nervous about it.

[@itswynette]

I don't think the math will be too difficult! You should be fine :)

[@dianaodunze6358]

Thank you so much for making this video. I got into Rotman and AEO as well but I decided to go to Laurier. I’m still in my first year, and I lose sleep because the ranking of my school is in my head. I’m constantly asking myself if it’s the wrong choice, however, this video really made me feel more confident.

[@itswynette]

Diana, I am SO happy to hear that. I lost sleep also. Channel all that energy into your school and finding co-ops. You got this!!!!!!!

[@zainella9679]

Hey! I'm actually a first year at Mac as well for Bcom, and I wanted to ask if you have any tips on learning to network and to put yourself out there? Thanks!

[@itswynette]

Feel free to message me on LinkedIn @ Wynette W

[@freeetrial8033]

LOL u just caught me red handed...i was just staring at reddit forums and ranking for like 2hrs...thanks for the advice!

[@jennynhinguyen5060]

Hey Wynette! Great vid btw it's been so helpful watching all of your videos. I'm really considering my offer to Business 1 at Mac and I've heard that a LOT of students wants to go to law school after they have finished their Bcom degree at Mac, which is really making me worry because I just want to continue focusing on business after I finished my Bcom, so should I be worried? Also is it possible to pursue an MBA at mac after you finished Bcom? Thank you so much btw you have helped me a lot with my supp app process all the way until now!

[@itswynette]

Hey Jenny. So sorry I missed this. Tbh, I do not know many students who want to pursue a law degree after. Mac has an accelerated MBA where you can get your MBA in a year straight after your undergrad!

[@Rebecca-jg7wm]

Hi! I’m thinking of applying to uft for their management program (not Rotman, just the individual program). Although it’s not a business school, would it still be ok if I wanted to get into the finance industry?

[@itswynette]

It definitely depends on the type of finance jobs. Front office finance jobs would definitely prefer Rotman over an individual program. If that is your goal, I highly suggest you apply to Rotman or another school offering a B.Comm (perhaps one mentioned in this video).

[@Rebecca-jg7wm]

@@itswynette Alright, thanks! ☺️

[@adnanalam5699]

I'm actually willing to come canada for my undergraduate and I'm really confused about choosing uni. Your channel helps

[@itswynette]

Thank you!!! Please lmk if you have any questions :)

[@nylagottlieb8137]

such a good video!!! hope all is well with you :)

[@itswynette]

Hi Nyla!!! Are you @ mac rn?

[@nylagottlieb8137]

@@itswynette Hi!!! i’m not, i actually ended up choosing Laurier and i love it!!!!

[@itswynette]

@@nylagottlieb8137 amazing!

[@nahlaalam9477]

Hello, I got accepted to a few business schools.for.this fall including mcmaster and I had personal Questions to ask you, is there any way I could contact you?

[@itswynette]

LinkedIn @Wynette W.

[@nahlaalam9477]

Hey I cannot send you a message on linkedin. Can u accept my connection on linkedin? My.name is Nahla Alam

[@manveersingh9952]

Hey I’ve got offer letters from mcmaster uni(bcom) and Laurier bba program which would should I opt?

[@itswynette]

the one you'd be happiest in hahaha

[@shalomekundayo]

Heyy. I just got admitted to McMaster and I watched your off campus housing tour and I’m struggling with my off campus research. I just want to know if there’s anywhere I can contact you for help and tips about renting an apartment. Thank you so much.

[@itswynette]

LinkedIn @Wynette W

[@michaellai2672]

Can’t agree more

[@noahdemill1707]

Rotman rarely accepts transfer students anyways. At least that's what it says on their website.

[@ES-sv1gu]

You are absolutley right, the degree is nothing but a ticket to get into the industries, but nothing else. I am from europe and I am enrolled in the master‘s programme in business at one of mcmaster‘s partner universities (I will hopefully come to mcmaster for an exhange semester). My uni is ranked between 60th and 75th in some european business school rankings. Since we have some quite „elite“-business schools in the country, rankend in the top 10, my uni has the reputation of being a pretty good business school, but not among the outstanding ones. But in the end, I am working for one of the most popular companies in my country alongside with people from elite-business schools like Harvard, Bocconi, HEC Paris and Copenhagen Business School (I know the european ones are not that well-known in north america, but you can compare them to Ivies in the field of business). And in the end nobody im the business world cares where you‘ve studied, especially after a few years of experience. I don‘t remember talking once about universities with my colleagues. So the degree is your ticket to get in, your attitude is what will bring you further.

[@itswynette]

Thank you so much for providing this fresh international perspective!! I really appreciated how you spoke about how ppl don’t really care about where you went to school in the working world. I also plan to go to exchange to Singapore @ NUS. Please let me know if you do come to McMaster for exchange. It is a fantastic school and I would like to discuss this further!

[@ES-sv1gu]

@@itswynette Many thanks for your kind words! And McMaster is my top-choice for the exchange, so I am really hoping, that I will get a spot. It seems to be an amazing university and I would be thrilled to go! I will be informed in 2 weeks, so let‘s see - it also depends on tje development of the pandemic of course. But if I go I would love to have some discussions with you! When are you planning to go on exchange? If I would get a spot at McMaster, I would come in in fall. Would you still be in Hamilton then?

[@itswynette]

@@ES-sv1gu I am planning to go on exchange next Winter. I will be in hamilton in Fall of 2021! Pls do let me know! V excited for you!!

[@itswynette]

@@ES-sv1gu any chance you are coming in winter 2022 semester?!

[@ES-sv1gu]

@@itswynette Hii, thanks a lot for checking! I decided to take a break from uni since I really hated online-lectures and also didn‘t want to risk being then in lockdown or whatever during exchange. So at the moment I am working full-time and will continue with my masters once the world gets back to something close to normal again…😅 and hopefully go then finally on exchange. I hope everything is good on your side? Did you go to Singapore?

[@sanjayrajakumar8179]

Timothee chalamet sent me here :)

[@POVFootball_TV]

I have to disagree. As someone who has worked in various "target banks in Canada'", i observed that the majority of students who get an offer are those from target schools. Yes, it is possible to get a co-op placement at a reknown company with a "non-target" background but it is much more difficult.

[@itswynette]

Sure, it may be hard, but not impossible. That’s just the point I wanted to illustrate. Thank you for sharing your thoughts in a respectful way!

[@meeramukunthan6115]

timothee chalamet sent me here

[@itswynette]

Yeah he did!

[@mohitanand7191]

Great video. Keep it up! I’m currently in Y1 at SSB if anyone has questions I’m open to help. Wynette helped a lot when I was applying. I’d love to do the same. I’m also still learning so if anyone has any tips for getting internships as a Y1, would love to hear it and connect! Good luck.

[@itswynette]

I love this support! So happy to see it.

[@albertn.1742]

Hey! I appreciate the kind gesture! How are you liking the program so far and how's the environment/social life?

[@mohitanand7191]

@@albertn.1742 Program is good. Lots of things going on and ways to get involved. The work is definitely demanding though as you would expect. The environment is very good, people are willing to help, you ask any upper years for stuff they get back to you and make time, just great overall and not toxic in any way. That’s been my experience. The social life is not what it would’ve been due to covid of course but it’s better than I expected. It also depends on who you are, some people are very social and some not so much.

[@teammantra9829]

Omg I hope your talking about schullich and I would love your help. Do you remember the conditional offer? Esp for English and advanced functions on what grade you had to mantain? Also when did you receive your offer

[@mohitanand7191]

@@teammantra9829 Hey, I am talking about Schulich. In terms of my conditional offer I think I had to maintain a mid 80s to keep the offer and the core courses like calc and English had to be above 80. I got my offer around first week of March or later February. If you have any other questions lmk.

[@mattsciamanna9478]

R u in managerial accoutning

[@itswynette]

Yes, why?

[@bayshen]

thinkpad 🤤🤤🤤😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

[@dracolnyte]

I thought I was going to get triggered coming here to watch this but I was wrong. For reference, my undergrad is from a target, had FT work exp in CM, then returned back to school to do my MBA at Mac. With my prev work exp, I definitely crushed Rotmans/Schulich/McGill during summer recruitment for the jobs I got interviews for (lost one to a Cornell MBA though). But for the really coveted jobs, such as IB or MBB, they don't come recruit at Mac at the MBA level. TD and BMO only would take one student from our co-op program per term but does not even post CB jobs on our Oscar+. I saw your profile and can say you are definitely impressive and would have made it at any school or program, so the bonus for you here I guess is savings in tuition and time to do the extracurriculars you want. But I have also heard that Mac is a target school for Scotia because they aren't competitive enough to recruit at the other schools (you'll know what I mean once you start your summer along with the other interns). If you can break into FO at the other four banks, or even American banks, within your next three work terms then I would say you have undoubtedly proved your point.

[@itswynette]

Will definitely try! Always up for the challenge. I also want to thank you for writing the comment. It’s awesome to hear about your background and experiences. I will stay positive in my future job search. Thank you for your support. I hope your career is going well also!

[@dracolnyte]

@@itswynette Yup, got my return offer in hand from Big 5. Good luck in your future endeavours.

[@matthewcassar881]

Non-target talking about how targets don’t matter?

[@itswynette]

yessir

[@joybroz6438]

What about Ted Rogers at Ryerson

[@itswynette]

I've seen Ryerson students on LinkedIn break into fantastic jobs. They have co-op as well. I think Ryerson's location is also a huge advantage for landing internships.

[@bhumikashelar8860]

a video in comparison of University of Alberta ndd McMaster University 😇

[@mattt1624]

This makes me feel a lot better about choosing Mac commerce over laurier bba. Thanks!

[@itswynette]

Welcome to Mac! You will like it!