@@sonteguh I said not that much because I have seen WAY worse than this
@sonteguh7 күн бұрын
@@LancerEnkidu 💀 i can't think about it
@sonteguh7 күн бұрын
Saitama is universal+ at minimum. Can be Multiversal according to current statements
@Sparkmaster95 күн бұрын
Alright, let’s clear something up. Saitama isn’t about galaxy-level, star-level, or even universe-level power. He was created to be above any level - he's a satire of the whole concept of power scaling itself. Saitama's existence is a massive "NO" to the entire trope of endlessly escalating power levels. Saitama was never meant to be put up against Goku, Superman, or any other character in a serious sense. His purpose is to mock the idea of these infinite power-ups and transformations. In a world obsessed with growth, struggle, and intense battles, Saitama already "won." He reached the highest point possible before the story even started. That’s why he's bored and feels no excitement in fights - because there's no one left to challenge him. When people argue about whether Saitama is "galaxy level" or "universe level," they're ignoring the point of his character. Saitama doesn’t even want to be part of this game. Power scaling and the endless "who’s stronger" debates are exactly what he rejects. He’s not interested in proving himself because he already broke the rules of his world and left the competition behind. He’s a reminder of how ridiculous and pointless that "strongest hero" race becomes. If we’re talking seriously, Saitama’s real "power level" is beyond any measure or label. He’s not bound by the limits that other characters are. No matter how strong others get, Saitama is designed to remain a joke that can’t be beaten - because his true purpose is to show how silly it is to chase infinite strength. So when you keep dragging him into these debates, you're missing the whole point: Saitama's character is literally built to laugh in the face of power-scaling itself.
@ShadeSlayer19113 күн бұрын
I kinda like that.
@BarbarianXD2 күн бұрын
Not an argument
@Sparkmaster9Күн бұрын
@@BarbarianXD argument?
@AzwaadGD6 күн бұрын
Saitama's strength depends on the plot because opm is meant for Saitama to win whatever happens, so if you scale Saitama in his anime way then Saitama is boundless infinite tier and beyond the concept trans dimension, but if you scale him through feats, Multi galaxy + Low 5D
@powerscallingfiend5 күн бұрын
I scale based of feats and statements .People who actually read that fight would know that Saitama and Garou had exponential increase in io .The serious square punch wasn't thing the moment the narrator showed the graph. Add in the fact Saitama became way too strong for Garou and also merged with himself .Empty existence alone should be obvious and Saitama outscales Void .
@ilkeribrahim65415 күн бұрын
People dont understand the character of Saitama. His strength its not based on feats and power scaling. He is designed to be unbeatble character no matter whatever you throw he will get no damage and he always outpower the other character and defeat him in the end. He doesnt need to destroy the universe to prove it basically you just know that if he neded he can do it, but its not required in the plot to do so and beacuse he doesn't need to power up or something to show us. You already know that he is the strongest no matter what.
@buckettrap5 күн бұрын
narrative based powers like you described only work in his verse not outside of it. Then it becomes based on feats.
@ilkeribrahim65415 күн бұрын
@buckettrap Well you cant bring any character outside of their verse in anyway . If though you bring them still it's about the character not the verse. Verse is different.
@elzoz1O203 күн бұрын
Exactly , people make fun of opm fans when they say those words but they can’t face the truth .. he just can’t be beat.
@im_susthesussymanКүн бұрын
@@elzoz1O20 yea
@tranhien65267 күн бұрын
I would say Saitama base is multi galaxy, but the void of the squared punch contains low-ball 10000 galaxies (bootes void), so one serious punch of Saitama obliterated 100 galaxies (low ball)
@ya_got_cooked7 күн бұрын
nerfed, blast send that serious punch into another dimension so the energy is clearly weakened
@sonteguh7 күн бұрын
@@tranhien6526 Saitama base how. Saitama doesn't have any forms lol. Also it's scary to think that punch is nerfed by Blast
@tranhien65267 күн бұрын
@@sonteguh Saitama base means before the growth rate
@mymomhatesme36977 күн бұрын
@@ya_got_cookedSaitama and garou clashed equally that means the forces should be cancelled or atleast reduced by 99% that means it could be 1000000 galaxies too
@SuperKamiGuruu2 күн бұрын
Both garou and saitama tanked being in the epic center of the SP²
@Z.TORNADO5 күн бұрын
I am the Truth Opm fans: bro look saitama feats Sneeze 90% Jupiter mass , tank gama ray burst attack ( multi soler system+lvl attack) without any single stretch , grab hyper space get above 3d structure , immune any type of disease , much faster than speed of light , never get kill not even scratch , break all universal logic lol , learn time travel ability (1st attempt) Reason : remove all human limitetion , take moon kick without dmg again , infinite statmina ( look all saitama fight ) never get tired , 2 finger can lift whole planet if saitama wanted ( garou vs moon fight ) Db fans : bro look goku feats (i means only statement and thearoy , overwank ) BrO dazenshu scaling hevean , goku shake whole universe ( universe? Lol beerus vs Goku can't even show any star destroye feat but universe almost destroye some how ) Goku base is multiverse lvl reason : trust me bro ( base goku barley lift 40ton ) , almost die by tiny laser without ki durability of goku barly reach building lvl ( ooo wait laser is multiverse lvl 🤓) Goku strongest attack barely reach star lvl lil (i means multiverse lvl attack ki control excuse ) Durability of goku : every fight almost die ( 3time get killed ) Cancer > goku ( wow multiverse lvl durability omg) Goku speed : ( yes this time goku have actual feat ) mui much faster than speed of light even faster than Time Actual feats of goku Goku Powe up shake planet: db fans omg multiverse lvl Goku power up shake planet and shatter few 10to 20m rocks ; db fans omg multiverse lvl + conclusion : Saitama: actual feats 👹 Lore 👹 Fraud Goku : actual feats 🧐? Lore 👹 , excuses 🤓 , statements 🤓 , overwank 🤓 , fan theory 🤓, Note ( losers always make excuses )
@SuperKamiGuruu2 күн бұрын
Beerus and goku do destroys stars, planets, and asteroid belts. Saitama solos DBZ tho
@EmptyVoidsolosDragonBallverse7 күн бұрын
Fr, w video 🔥🐐 Saitama is already 5D, everything in the verse doesn't scale to him and doesn't reach him
@SuperStar_47 күн бұрын
Empty Void 5D, Saitama more than 5D, High-Complex Multiverse.
@VerseLoom7 күн бұрын
Boundless Saitama
@SuperStar_47 күн бұрын
@@VerseLoom 💀💀💀
@chimpxi6 күн бұрын
@@VerseLoom no fiction are Boundless lmao
@VoidExtensionedits7 күн бұрын
Thanks i can use this to my future debates
@mattmetawolf86347 күн бұрын
What’s funny is I’m having a back-and-forth with someone right now wants to play Zamasu a.k.a. Goku black along with Goku on a multi-verse level saying that those two are completely equals which I’m guessing he never watch the black mark considering black handed Goku and Vegeta their asses and they were not comparable by any metric at best you could say Zamasu had a time ring which would make him Universal plus but without that ring he’s pretty much on a universal scale especially merged together but he swears up and down that black is multi but here’s my thing did he actually even destroy any universes in his timeline leading up to any others? , Or did he just destroy the life within that universe and then go on the run cause , I bet the only people he killed was Goku his family and that’s assuming he didn’t just stop there and kill the entire timeline full of Z fighters wearing Goku‘s face‘s I know it seems like an unrelated topic however compare that to the likes of Saitama they swear up and down he could never catch up! , But it’s funny cause it’s never replicated again on the black arc or any other arc after that😂 yet again dragon ball is outer
@VerseLoom7 күн бұрын
Hahahah ! Bro just destroyed them ! 😂
@mattmetawolf86347 күн бұрын
@ The funny thing is I’m just hyper focused on what they said it’s not like I’m only purposely trying to unravel it to get a gotcha but to be frank this is the same people who believe that the The world of the Kaioshin pretty much each individual Kai has their own individual universe infinite scale which if that was the case then buu saga Goku and every other remaining Kai in universe seven should already be at universe level correct? I’m assuming they’re not just actually galaxies are within a portion of the heaven round which seems to be connected to all universities and timelines so if I’m being honest it seems like it’s just a higher form of reality for each universe more than it seems like it’s independent with its own space and considering it’s tethered to the heavenly realm and the The mortal universe has more so a dimension not in the sense of the universe but in the sense of a portion of it along with beerus who has his own and side of the heavens so overall the more you think about it the more inconsistent a lot of the cosmology tends to get which is why I find it funny how it all unravels in on itself when people try to go for higher scaling
@sonteguh7 күн бұрын
@@mattmetawolf8634 lmao 😂 but How big do you think the scale of afterlife and Kaioshin is in dragonball? Does it relate to the outer meta scale that says being "existing beyond life or death concept" what do you think about that?
@mattmetawolf86347 күн бұрын
@ it’s clearly not above life or death considering the afterlife is in the name afterlife OK let’s get that out the way before we continue any further in terms of its world it can be copy and pasted into a different timeline like the future trunks timeline for starters it’s so beyond concepts right that it’s still bound by Time where it can be copy and pasted with the same king yama Who met Goku at a certain time of his life but if we’re playing on this whole outer concept right that I know a lot of people love to paddle why is it that for an outer structure it doesn’t have every version of Goku that has died I mean let’s think about it right you would think that king Yama would bring up the fact that there have been multiple other versions of Goku in other timelines who have been to the afterlife within the six time lines that each version is a copy and paste of that doesn’t seem to be consistent with the outer narrative that a lot of people are going with , not to mention as inconsistent as that is at best it’s more of a complex structure if anything for the multi-verse if I’m being generous but make no mistake that’s a very loose statement for me because the way I see it is it’s more of just a multiversal structure at best A very very low multiversal/ universal structure that makes up that big orb in the center so it doesn’t really transcend time not really it’s more or less a victim of being its own copy of an iteration like all of the other six were Goku was dead and if a being known as the Omni king who is also linked to being that high can be duplicated then it pretty much tells you everything you need to know about the structuring of the rest of the verse if the top-tier who is supposed to be loading over everything just kind of is able to be duplicated by time
@atg5707 күн бұрын
@@mattmetawolf8634The Fact that Goten was Born and grew up While Goku was in Afterlife is Death of Afterlife being beyond Space and Time Argument
@BiteVideoEdits2 күн бұрын
Saitama hax might be the most broken thing in new gen anime. "The exponential growth.". Cosmic garou and saitama were equals in the early fight. Saitama starts havin finite jumps in his strength and stated by Garou "Its like his power is growing infinitely" then later he said "Then I'll copy him infinitely" . But Saitama exponential growth caused saitama to grow so powerful he could even one shot cosmic garou. Saitama Exponential Growth is literally transfinite. As Saitama strength was growing exponentially with Garou copying him infinitely.but saitama still havin finite jumps. One infinite is not faster then another infinite unless if we talking about transfinity where different numbers of infinities exist. Saitama can be scaleld Outerverse with hax as his exponential growth is transfinite.
@chimpxi6 күн бұрын
Saitama should be uni+ Also why i think Void has a clones because he looks different now? Weird to think if his real body still hiding outside causality because he want to see how strong Blast really is. As a db fans i get this theory from Granolah when his clone fighting Goku then the real one slam him. Nothing to do with it but I found it interesting tho.
@VerseLoom6 күн бұрын
Ig, Ev is higher than Granola
@chimpxi6 күн бұрын
@@VerseLoom higher what? Scale or dimensionality?
@DominicRuiz235 күн бұрын
We all know Saitama will eventually defeat god so we can preemptively scale him above god
@neetaiims74275 күн бұрын
Galaxy is high ball for saitama. Who are saying he is low uni/ uni or above that are just glazers who doesn't know how to scale.
@VerseLoom5 күн бұрын
Lmao ! He ain't galaxy level; limitless with context is High universal and he Transcended Space Time in 4D context ; that's why he's Uni+ ; galaxy level Scaling is Downplay
@neetaiims74275 күн бұрын
@@VerseLoom he ain't transcend time or space . You all are just glazing him. He is galaxy level at best.
@VerseLoom5 күн бұрын
Well ! Nope ; that's bullshit scaling by Vsbw
@powerscallingfiend5 күн бұрын
@@neetaiims7427He literally did by moving backwards in time
@Z.TORNADO5 күн бұрын
@@neetaiims7427 4d universe go learn scaling or stop downplay
@ibrahimahm3d6 күн бұрын
Uni+ or low multi I think Garou is Uni maybe Uni+ Edit based on feats alone because no one accepts statements from OPM for some reason
@chimpxi6 күн бұрын
@@ibrahimahm3d Garou is not even universal
@LancerEnkidu7 күн бұрын
Honestly i don't agree with the "infinite strength" logic. Because what he has is infinite potential not infinite strength. Because if he had "infinite strength" even his touch will have infinite strength because infinite divided by any number will still be infinte. It is also not like there is a barrier or force like in other verese that prevents this from happening. Nor are there any entities that mange such things from happening. Maybe it can be chalked to his "gag" logic but there is not enough proof for that to certainly be the case. Overall i will say he could be multi Galaxy- Universal (due to zero punch) not higher yet. He does have the potential to reach that level in between fight due to his infinite potential and rapid growth rate. Only EV has shown feats higher than that. But well i will wait for the videos after the next chapter to know if anything changes
@VerseLoom7 күн бұрын
Well it encompasses both ! He can grow his strength as much as he wants that is what limitless strength/Infinite strength
@LancerEnkidu7 күн бұрын
@ScalerEcho I suppose that might be the case but the key word here is "might" we don't know for certain yet. That's why I chose that multi galaxy- Universal scale
@De-Enforcer7 күн бұрын
Limitless strength is more precise
@Professional-Hater-No.17 күн бұрын
Could you not change your Channel's name FOR 5 MINUTES!
@cli19v5 күн бұрын
Ok thats cool and all but he doesnt beat goku
@VerseLoom5 күн бұрын
Yeah ! He can one shot Zeno Sama
@Sparkmaster95 күн бұрын
@@VerseLoom ᗜˬᗜ
@TheRealMahitoe2 күн бұрын
Saitamas only weaknesses are comically funny things like slipping on bananas or getting scratched by a cat Basically, Charlie Chaplin is the only character that can defeat him
@BarbarianXD2 күн бұрын
Yeah he's 4D
@SuperKamiGuruu2 күн бұрын
Saitama stomps
@Memo-cp2mt7 күн бұрын
W fr
@-strgnokia-7 күн бұрын
Fr w ❤️🔥 Echo
@MetalKnight07 күн бұрын
Use your own voice please, this robotic voice is very annoying
@MusicMysticMT5 күн бұрын
Clearly fan boy who doesn't understand the concept of limitless or infinite strength... it just means he can grow infinitely stronger but is not infinitely strong....if he was infinitely strong the manga wouldn't show a graph of how he grows stronger than garou dude your logic and understanding of the manga is poor " PLUS TO MANIPULATE TIME AND SPACE DOESN'T MAKE YOU UNIVERSAL"
@VerseLoom5 күн бұрын
Infinite strength or limitless strength with context is automatically High Universal 💀 ! Ask your mom , surely I told her
@MusicMysticMT5 күн бұрын
@ScalerEcho the manga confirmed he's grows exponentially stronger without limit rather than having infinite strength it means like anybody else he has to push himself to get stronger and not just infinite power like you understand it but it's fine my guy I provided a link but then again you won't watch it cuz saitama fans are generally ignorant
@MusicMysticMT5 күн бұрын
@ScalerEcho if he's power was infinite there wouldn't be graph to begin with in the first place the graph takes away the whole concept of him being infinite
@VerseLoom5 күн бұрын
The graph doesn't take away anything Dumb ; that's the proof his power is infinite
@MusicMysticMT5 күн бұрын
@ScalerEcho okay dumbass I'm not coming Back to this channel anyway u should thank the algorithim for it to cross my path 😂
@cjcj48617 күн бұрын
This video is good thank you for uploading this ya one punch man solos he has Infinite Strength infinite power infinite speed infinite stamina he does not get tired he's a gag / parody character why don't people understand that quit trying to put saitama in power scale you can't measure his strength it was stated by boros in the anime season 1
@VerseLoom7 күн бұрын
Infinite strength caps at high uni unless it shows absolute type of infinite
@cjcj48617 күн бұрын
@@VerseLoom there is no level cap to saitama strength it has no limits that's something where people need to understand no Galaxy level no none of that boros stated in the anime even Garo stated in the manga saitama is strong in infinitely strong that's what Garo stated this video don't seem so bad
@VerseLoom7 күн бұрын
Well, I'm following Vsbw method, so it does for me ! @@cjcj4861
@cosmic-c6t7 күн бұрын
@@cjcj4861false under nlf
@callisto17967 күн бұрын
@@VerseLoomnot when the cosmology goes further above that