The Twisted Story Of Michele Neurauter

[@JB-ec7tz]

“Yeah, she’s in my apartment” that tone switch was so eerie. She went from choking out her words to so matter of factly saying that wow.

[@katehack1677]

I got a chill when I heard that too! I'm sure the police noticed immediately too. Women generally don't hang themselves (or shoot themselves for that matter). A red flag in itself.

[@Ms.Laterholmes5253]

That was just like a scary movie of a sociopath that makes you feel like, the hairs on the back of your neck are standing out something is not right. Of course she wasn’t crying either alligator tears a song was standing in front of her

[@michellealloco1015]

Me too

[@karenmayer4600]

OMG, I was thinking the same exact thing, 🥴

[@jomoland]

Holy crap! Right???

[@kyloforshaw8400]

I can't imagine the little sisters mind with this. Her mothers death. Her sister and dad did it. I'd never be able to get over that. I hope she's doing okay and has a good support network.

[@GypsyRock]

🙏🏾

[@aleisaetheridge8682]

SAME ,What a piece of trash this so called Father was ,He destroyed his family for his own sick pleasure r whatever it was ,what a creep ,I hope they never saw him again after he was sentenced .

[@Gameboy-Unboxings]

I can't imagine Michele's horrible, terrifying death that she endured.. that's who I feel sorry for.

[@realdeal2283]

Very well said Kylo. I agree 💯! I pray she finds peace

[@AshJae]

Doubt it. Life is cruel

[@SamanthaVimes]

Wow, the mom protected her daughter from beyond the grave by documenting the abuse so the control the husband had over their daughter was established independently.

[@4bibimimi]

Kerri betrayed her mother ultimately, and she didn't sound manipulated on the phone with Lloyd knowing full well what he did.

[@kadeelacayo4806]

Where was that information in this video ???

[@onthursday1599]

@@kadeelacayo4806 17:46

[@Redhactv]

@@4bibimimi When you're conditioned and groomed to follow a leader like a cult leader its hard to not sound like you also wanted it too. He formed her to be loyal to him. The mother did her best to protect her regardless of this. She knew that she was being made to go against her mother... She was the best mother to ever ask for, she knew these kids were being conditioned but still did her best to ensure she documents this so that others know what she did. The therapy for the kids will be terribly sad.

[@Ariannauk1]

@@4bibimimi coercive control is killer Lloyd spent their whole life psychologically controlling his family

[@bc8796]

The fact that she helped in her mother's murder and then in the end her mother ended up helping her get off on a lighter sentence. She better be happy that she was writing down all that abuse that they went through. That's just terrible. It's one thing to distract your sister and stuff but to go into help drag her body..... And then throw her over the edge... I'm not going to deny that she was definitely taking advantage of by her father but to do that to your mother and just be completely on board with it and everything is just awful.

[@sarahh6106]

I agree. At the end of the day, she knew right from wrong and there's no excuse for her behavior. I know the guilt of what she did will haunt her forever.

[@TheDramacist]

She sounded like a psychopath on the phone when faking tears but immediately getting over it 4 seconds later. She might be born that way, but it sounds like her dad's behaviour made her into a nutjob

[@alsmith9853]

Pure sociopath, like her father

[@texasgirl6000]

@@sarahh6106, probably not she's a narcissist.

[@IwasBlueb4]

shes a psychopath, im sure

[@tdeits]

“I was told my mom killer herself😭😭😭” Is your sister with you? “Yea😁”

[@janedoeseph]

Red flag # 1: absolutely no one suspects a loved one’s suicide. Her ex saying he wasn’t surprised by this, and then continuing to disparage her character, is a beacon to say the very least.

[@kimberlyoldschool]

Exactly. Family members tend to be in denial, they throw away suicide notes, they downplay a history of depression. Even if the victim had serious mental illness and/or previous suicide attempts, family members don’t want to believe, at first, that this actually happened. They would also still be distraught that it _did_ happen. This guy sounds like he’s just telling someone the plot of a movie he saw.

[@mirakron7235]

@@kimberlyoldschool g

[@IwasBlueb4]

he is so disgusting

[@hahano9586]

You've clearly never been in a family with a history of mental illness and suicide then, because suicide is genuinely how half my family will go, guaranteed. Already partially there.

[@tessaelto1472]

@@kimberlyoldschool Omg. They throw away suicide notes? That is just heartbreaking.. The last words of someone feeling so helpless and distraught thrown away and ignored.. Ugh I'm so sorry and I hope you break the cycle ❤️

[@jessicataylor7174]

I understand everyone reacting to the daughter's phone call because it was blatant but the thing I found most chilling was her father speaking to the police in the car (starting at 3:10 ). His ex wife, mother of his kids had just been found dead and he is jumping right in with undermining her as an adult ("tantrum") and speaking about her ability to kill herself without a shred of compassion. It felt like excuses and setting a scene. Everything about it was so devoid of emotion, the look in his eyes was cold AF and there was something domineering. At 3:35 when he says, "She was just completely out of control" the little nod and way his eyes narrowed chills me to the core.

[@paradisesunprincess]

She was his EX WIFE , not wife. Exes are exes for a reason. He doesn't need to sound distraught.

[@froggirl0]

@@paradisesunprincess She was also his WIFE at some point…any human capable of compassion would feel something or at least be taken aback by that kind of information. The immediate undermining and berating of the deceased person is what makes the situation fucked.

[@Stillpril]

@@paradisesunprincess he was beating her

[@katherinedobias7499]

It felt like he was enjoying this

[@sheilarogge2461]

yea, he is full of shit....lying his ass off.

[@ANU99313]

The way she laughed and smiled with her father on the call! What type of daughter is she?! Not a ounce of regret in their voice at all! At the end betrayed her father too as if she didn't help him at all.

[@FenixintheDark]

There's something very wrong with the kid, if she can be complicit in the crime of murdering her own mother, and then losing all emotion when she says of her sister; "Yeah, she's in my apartment." I'm willing to bet she inherited the gene for sociopathy from Dad, because she didn't even realize how chilling that would be to hear.

[@qwertyuiop-ke7fs]

Absolutely. People are blind though.

[@DeathMetalDerf]

The level of manipulation by Lloyd on his daughter is disgusting. I just don't know what else to say about it. It's just gross. I'm not saying she's innocent. She knew what she was doing is wrong, that's why she caved instantly upon questions from the cops. I hope they both never sleep well ever again for what they've done.

[@TheDramacist]

Wish we had seen some examples of the abuse from all those papers the mother kept

[@melaniemann4873]

The daughter who. Helped her father drag the body I think will end up taking her own life as I don’t think she will be able to handle all the feelings that will hit her as she gets older

[@DeathMetalDerf]

@HWD’s Legacy she very well might be. They do say there's a genetic component to that kind of thing, although the nature versus nurture argument is still very strong in both directions. I wonder if her father was the key that unlocked her inner, pre-existing psychopathy, or did he mold and work her into the shape of monster she eventually became. Ultimately she's 100% responsible for her own actions and going along with her father is her fault, but still I wonder...

[@elizabethsohler6516]

@@DeathMetalDerf Not entirely Yes in theory she is fully responsible for her actions and knows. right from wrong. However, she had been dominated and manipulated by him from earliest childhood. To me, her father is more culpable than she is.

[@panonymousbloom5405]

@Sleep Paralysis Demon I'm sorry but this is quite malicious. A lot of people involved in murder have less empathy for their victims than they would otherwise, and the "pretending to be emotional but not being able to keep it up" is quite common. Not all people who do horrific things are sociopaths. Not only that, if she had a "thing" for her dad, I'm betting it's because she was groomed. He trained his daughters to look up to him, and resented the mother. Then he threatened to kill himself. Which would not only manipulate her emotionally but also further antagonize the mother. "She's making me do it for money". Furthermore, you don't know what was in the documents. It's weird that she got such a short sentence, considering she's an adult. Maybe it was bad enough to shook up the jury.

[@loveforeignaccents]

Wow, what a change of tone from her uncontrollable sobbing voice to her matter-of-fact "yeah, she's in my apartment"... think I know who was responsible for the death already, but we will see...

[@elayna3312]

Picked up on that too lol

[@grayhatjen5924]

Even though I've heard the clip previously, it is STILL jarring to hear. And to think that she thought she'd done so well (going by her follow up call to her father.) No, kid. You fooled nobody.

[@jxn1056]

Yes!

[@musicbabe90]

She sounds like amber heard on the stand

[@vanamandaa]

@@musicbabe90 I agree!

[@florence.5088]

1 to 3 years is really not that much considering she was an adult and consented to helping her dad kill her mom. She could have stopped the plan at any time and she didn't because she was a willing accomplice 😕 The plan literally couldn't have worked without her, she was an accessory to first degree murder...

[@campbellgriffin6396]

I would say yes in a usual circumstance but manipulation does crazy things. The abuse and manipulation were documented so it's not like she made it up. Thats how these big cults and stuff form where people do insane things they wouldn't normally do. It can take years for this stuff, but since she was this guys kid, it makes sense. She really couldve been doing it because she was just doing what she thought was morally right. Her morality was corrupted by him by a lot. I don't know her personally so maybe she is a bad person, but she could've just been dealt really bad cards so she went along with what she thought was good.

[@Jane-Roe1126]

undue influence

[@DaBaltimoron]

But she's just a widdle girl, the bad man made her do it

[@killbillfanaquiahora]

@@campbellgriffin6396 With all of what you stated taken into account, do you really think 1-3 years of incarceration is appropriate when you step back and look at all of her complicit actions? I personally think she deserved a lot more time given her age and her willfully evil decisions. Especially since there are many people who come from a household where one or both parents are verbally/physically abusive, manipulative, criminally negligent, etc, but they dont get the same breaks after committing crimes much less serious than murder (accessory to/conspiracy to commit).

[@CaptKPinksies]

Clearly you've never had narcisistic parents, nor do you understand the court system (she took a plea deal).

[@okay5488]

You didn’t deserve this, Michele. She sounded like a lovely person.

[@kalkidanhailu8563]

It is cause she is dead I don't think she was that perfect

[@helloworld2784]

I really appreciate True Crime channels that respect people who were kiIIed. Some of them will even go out research deep and dig things because they should be remembered as humans. These people were kiIIed and their murderers and anyone in the internet can say anything they want because the person is not there to defend themselves or say the truth. She doesn't deserve this and people in the replies are sad, saIty, in denial, and pathetlc.

[@okay5488]

@@helloworld2784 I’m shocked at how horrible the other comments are. Thanks for being kind hearted.

[@DesertVox]

ONLY she STOLEN the man's house and kicked him out, with help from the regime. Any sane person won't accept this kind of 'law'.

[@hannah3146]

@@kalkidanhailu8563 she was still a loving mother that got away from her abusive husband. Then his daughter let's him in the mom's home. Also helps move the body and lie

[@danielbrown1724]

Poor baby Michelle, such a light amongst a dark cloud of a family. I’m sure she felt obligated to stay and take Lloyd’s abuse in order to protect her babies, but little did she know, he would manipulate one of those babies and turn her against her mum. RIP beautiful lady, I could tell just by her smile that she was full of light and love.

[@sparklypoet1454]

so beautifully said. Agree with you 100%

[@bridgetmonica31]

She could have got a good lawyer, she could have got evidence of his abuse many do with secret pin cameras, recording words etc as well. As it certainly sounds like she had years of opportunities..It's so strange, especially from a educated lady, idk..It's so terrible these men like this, holding women captive..and it is mainly women..It is weird though when these couples post photos and gush about how wonderful they are etc..I realize she did not, but many seem to do that.What I have noticed is people who constantly go on fb etc and gush,brag about their amazing hubby,wife..they're usually the first to divorce, and the ones who are private , quiet, they do not.

[@pramilalamsal7806]

@Abby why do you say so

[@Kailandra29]

@Abby says the person running around on other comments trying to guilt them for voicing empathy for the family. What's your deal? You OK?

[@princesspanda12012]

@Abby she was a good person and didn't deserve to have ended up with such crap husband and kid

[@BassSpy]

I can't get enough of the video clip of the dad getting trucked on the roof. He was obviously putting on a pity party and had no intension of actually jumping, being that he's a complete narcissist.

[@awh5069]

I’m right there w/ you! I actually laughed out loud! 😂

[@BassSpy]

@CORKY Like getting waylaid from a blindspot.

[@crowmedicine3890]

Exactly. That was fun to watch.

[@Hakuj1nn]

@CORKY lol looking at your comment history did you make this account just to leave hate? You’re killing me bro so funny😂😂😂😂

[@M1985-]

*intention

[@sunshineandfinishlines45]

Lloyd was a “regular” at a restaurant I used to work at in NJ. He would come in at lunchtime with a woman (girlfriend/co-worker?) and was always over-the-top smiling at her, holding hands, etc. When I’d say, “May I take your order?” He’d reply, “Give this beautiful woman whatever she wants.”, leaning down on the counter to gaze at the woman. It was weird. They’d sit at the table, longingly staring into each other’s eyes, always smiling (to the point that it was uncomfortable). He wanted everyone to see that he was “Mr. Nice Guy” They came in quite often. I first heard about what he had done on an episode of Dateline. While part of me was surprised, it definitely made sense.

[@SheezFubar]

Just from the info on this vid, my conclusion is he's definitely a Narcissist. They seek out a certain kind of prey on purpose. Usually, the more docile or obviously on the rebound type are their main choice. A Narcissist's typical or usual 1st move is the self praise and making themselves appear larger than life, grandiose or hero of some sort. 2nd is a close 1st as well.... Love bombing.....where they make their prey feel like a Queen/King by showering with gifts, learning all their favorite things like food, places, material wishes, etc, so they can make themselves appear to be the only one who cares about them, protects them, understands them. This is what he was doing to the female in the restaurant. She would've been his next victim had he not been caught. After the Love Bombing comes the true nightmare.

[@justthestresstalkin2482]

@@SheezFubar you nailed it !

[@laurendika8607]

Dude it was probably his daughter 100 percent incest relationship

[@joylives_4her668]

In my humble opinion the daughter got off waaaay too easy. Inspite of all the manipulation she was old enough to know right from wrong. I say this because I'm one of those people with a very twisted mother. She always treated me differently than my brothers since very young. It affected my life severely and still I never wish her any harm whatsoever!! So no. If she had a mother like mine she probably would've killed her herself without the father...🤔

[@LazarusSpeaks]

I personally believe that if it was a son who did this, he would've gotten the maximum time

[@joylives_4her668]

@@LazarusSpeaks You're probably right on the money!!

[@joylives_4her668]

@@BFNLEO Im so sorry you went through that. My mother didn't want girls. For that alone she rained on my life. I came to think there had to be a reason but I just stopped caring...

[@akshay9602]

Courts are always biased towards women.

[@joylives_4her668]

My same situation. I grew up while dressing for school she would say:,I wish I only had boys,Had I not had a girl I would 've kept having boys,I dont like having a daughter. Like if I was a painting on the wall. As if that wouldn't hurt me because to her their was nothing wrong with the constant barrage. I mean it was continuous from the time of my understanding till like yourself I became numb and just stopped giving any Fs!!🤬😡 I have a boy and a girl and never differentiated between the 2. Thx God and love them both very much! They are grown now and NEVER would I have done that!

[@Sckvictor]

Now, this is what Narcisism looks like. This dad is obsessed with admiration and adoration that he ignored his family's happiness and well-being for his own selfish ego.

[@Bambotb]

Demonic

[@thelunchlady8276]

@@Bambotb Hey now, don't bring demons down to this guy's level.

[@bridgetmonica31]

True.. I bet he loved ballet class as what's the bet the ladies there went on about how he was good looking.

[@kalkidanhailu8563]

I don't think Michelle was so perfect you can clearly he love his kids

[@kalkidanhailu8563]

I don't think Michelle was so perfect you can clearly he love his kids

[@jenniferwellman5311]

The father never would’ve killed himself, narcissists never kill themselves. Her mother saved her life, and her life in prison. Which was extremely short, it would’ve been longer have they not had that evidence.

[@davidlancaster8152]

crazy family dinamics

[@leahflower9924]

Exactly he probably was amused by the police tackling him lol he let everyone think he maybe had a soul

[@MegaToti26]

I agree! Too coward to do it!

[@GlitteryGhost]

They do. Narcissists have a way higher rate of suicide than the average person and usually their narcissism is comorbid with anxiety and depression. Their whole delusional grandiosity stems from low self worth and insecurity in the first place. The ones who feed off pity and sympathy and use it as an abusive threat suicide more though.

[@Godlovesuse4real]

She’s as guilty as her father is. So I don’t have any remorse for her at all. She should be locked 🔒 up for life. Disbelief 🫢 in my part. Prayers for the family.

[@chinchillamdgamer]

Children learn from their caretakers. She learnt to lie and manipulate from her father, and got his sociopath traits from him. She was a teenager but still, can you imagine the amount of influence he had on her while growing up??

[@carolsanders3979]

I agree with you daughter is just as guilty she has no remorse she doesn't sound like she ever loved her mother very disconnected from her mom she talked about it like it was nothing to me the daughter is a narcissist .

[@MrTeamGuy]

There was one case where guy with autism got manipulated for his obsession into killing. He got life in prison. As he should, as this girl should have. IN the end if you're part of the killing, you're not fit to live among civil people. It's not always fair, but the system is there to keep dangerous people away (I don't believe it ever was to rehabilitate)

[@breadpilled2587]

As soon as he called her issues "tantrums" I knew he was involved.

[@faykouri1162]

Like father like daughter, she wasn’t punished enough in my books!

[@michellebaca1024]

I agree! Cannot believe that’s all she got!

[@wickedlee664]

You have multiple books!?

[@priscamolotsi]

I agree with you!

[@grantgillikin4382]

@@wickedlee664 I damn near did a spit take reading your comment. Morning coffee was about to be on the walls 🤣🤣

[@bjc4204]

She certainly got off, evil ass.

[@chippewaguy4193]

The daughter got off way way to easy. Scammed the system into think she’s a poor helpless little girl.

[@jdonnelly7354]

"too" easy.. "thinking".. 😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏

[@ArthurLivesOn]

Girls live life on easy difficulty.

[@KendallM0219]

@@ArthurLivesOn I would beg to differ on that statement.

[@chippewaguy4193]

@@KendallM0219 they most certainly do live life on easy mode. Especially if you are an attractive girl.

[@TheVampirePredator]

She showed in her conversation to her dad she’s an expert liar and manipulator herself. The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree and the next season’s crop is always better than the last.

[@suzannep8371]

An abuser and an enabler. This goes on in families throughout the world and this story highlights how events can take a sinister turning.

[@gatdemun]

That totally opposite vibe when she says “she’s in my apartment “ give me chills.

[@MatildasMama]

i haven’t watched but the cry-sob-cry followed with the cheery ‘ya she’s in my apartment’ = girl YOU’RE guilty.

[@Spencerlayne]

It always amazes me when people go guilty to avoid the death penalty, but yet they were going to kill them selves before they got caught.

[@vikzytoria]

If he had truly wanted to kill himself, he would have. That was all for show.

[@brycepriar3185]

He was never going to kill himself

[@dmreddragon6]

Suicidial feelings can come, and go. Also there is the being in control of this one aspect in your life...choosing the where, when and how of your death.

[@deez2569]

Cowards.

[@samyram5471]

It’s all about control. They want to be in control of how they die, they don’t want someone to have the power to kill them. Ya know?

[@DoubleAplusJ]

She was given a lesser sentence but her entire life will be tainted and dirty because of her father. The moment that her mental health improves enough to really understand what her mother endured from them, her terrible end and the self serving way her father manipulated her need for his love, she's going to have an entirely different lifetime full of emotional damage to try to deal with. I feel like this should be a warning to all women/men staying in abusive households for the sake of their children. It can and will destroy their lives as well.

[@juanitarichards1074]

The mother didn't stay with the abusive husband but escaped as soon as she could....and he killed her anyway. If you think leaving an abusive man is the beginning of safety you're dreaming. Often leaving them is the beginning of the real nightmare, as in this case.

[@TheDramacist]

Block it out and denial for life. That's how most cope.

[@lauren9004]

EXACTLY

[@cynthiadavid5282]

Very sad twiisted case

[@DoubleAplusJ]

@@juanitarichards1074 I lived for most of my life in one form of abuse or another, I'm no stranger. My abuser was sentenced to 20 years in prison for the abuse they were able to prove and it wasn't close to being everything. What I said was pointed and purposeful.

[@tatianaflores1926]

Yikes. Crazy indeed. Rip Michelle. Thanks for sharing her story with us.

[@amandaloveless4369]

I love true crime videos like this that show different clips involving the case. I’ve seen a lot of true crime channels that have someone sitting in front of a camera talking/explaining the entire case. This was really well done. I subscribed.

[@curtissmith5469]

Jason,you have an awesome, mysterious voice for the stories. Enjoyed this one like all the rest and it goes to show how even blood family can't be trusted. Already looking forward to the next one and in the meantime will make sure I've watched all the ones previously. Awesome job!!👍

[@nmarkert01]

The Barry White of True crime

[@GoodLawdBeerus1417]

If Jason and The Raven from EWU did a collab narration it would be the best thing ever. Both smooth af

[@Case-DawgYT]

Love the respect you give all victims and family of all involved. #Respect You guys are the best!

[@janetspell1396]

She sure went from crying to literally straight up “ok” on that 911 call. Creepy.

[@dsm.lovesoutside4496]

It's very nice you recognize the deceased prior to each episode. 🙂

[@krisdiane]

Abuse victim or not, the daughter doesn't need to be a part of society. You can't just help kill someone and then be like, "well, I was a victim too," and go free. Death row is literally full of abuse victims. 🤷‍♀️

[@TeeB7]

I agree

[@shady8099]

Must've had a good lawyer. Like 90% of murders are abuse victims, she ain't special. Crazy she got such a light sentence after acting so unremorseful.

[@Psychoanalytical87]

I just want to say a HUGE thank you for these video's. I've been watching them for a few days now and it's really helping me with my depression. You're video's are so well put together! 🙏🏽💙

[@dirtydavis8308]

Damn, never seen a biological daughter and dad kill mom before this one. No way in hell the daughter should have gotten only 3 years in prison. That’s the most disturbing part of the whole video.

[@gb_120]

I got the sense that he had some kind of incestuous relationship with her. Almost like she was his favorite because she worshipped him, and he enjoyed that control over her. Like a creepy “daddy’s girl” fantasy brought to life here. Sick. This girl doesn’t need to be back in society either. She definitely has too much in common with her father, such as inherited psychopathic traits…probably why they got along together so well. “2 peas in a pod.” And psychopaths only work well together if they have a common goal…which in this case was to get rid of the mother, like a piece of trash, for monetary gain. Maybe even some jealousy on the daughter’s behalf, due to her twisted delusions which were further fueled by her father. This is why I believe in the death penalty for these types of remorseless offenders, as well as sterilization. They say “survival of the fittest”. Sure psychopaths who successfully complete their crimes catapult themselves up the “food chain”. Because they don’t waste their time worrying about the well being of others, and experience 0 shame when carrying out whatever necessary to get ahead in life. Look at politicians lol. That’s why I’m simply suggesting that those of whom are caught should be removed off the earth, so that their warped genes can slowly die off. Their character defects are incurable, and are always only dangerous to the overall population.

[@danallefloyd5784]

Okay, I'm glad someone said it.

[@AmyraCull]

I agree it’s weird the way he talks to her too

[@gb_120]

@@danallefloyd5784 😅

[@tradeladder146]

I think your post makes you very Creepy indeed.

[@riku9392]

criminal bad so therefore eugenics good ???

[@clarrisamariee4745]

Okay I haven’t finished watching it but the way that the ex husband was talking about Michelle was suspicious. He tried to make her sound unhinged and suicidal. That’s never a good sign.

[@stephaniegonsalves2263]

I thought exactly the same!

[@clarrisamariee4745]

@@stephaniegonsalves2263 haha you must watch true crime 🙂

[@cindybeaton2103]

It's like Takoda Collins father. Talking about his dead son the way he did!

[@clarrisamariee4745]

@Abby still didn’t need to be murdered

[@clarrisamariee4745]

@Abby so you just wanted to point out the wife wasn’t an innocent victim?

[@curioustruthteller8510]

That dad essentially made his daughter, Karrie, choose "me or your mom" which is NEVER ok. The amount of abuse those girls endured at his hands and mentally wasn't understood until Karrie literally partook in her own mothers death. THAT shows how evil and manipulative their father was their entire life. I still don't know if her sister will be able to forgive Karrie for taking their mother away. I know I couldn't.

[@animalworld5296]

no amount of manipulation would turn a person to be this evil. she was giggling with her father about it afterward, she had no remorse. she is as evil as her father, the apple did not fall far from the tree.

[@Bambotb]

The mom was probably evil herself

[@sisillewellyn8174]

Exactly. Karrie was old enough to know right from wrong, unless she has a very low IQ, then perhaps she could be manipulated easily.

[@gringo6797]

@@animalworld5296 I couldn't agree with you more! No amount of manipulation would turn a non evil human into helping with the most despicable thing imaginable !!!! What a pair of CUN+$!!!! 🕊RIP

[@bjc4204]

@@animalworld5296 I absolutely agree. Evil lil bih.

[@DroneStrike1776]

I hope the guilt is ripping that daughter apart and nothing comes out good in her life. The way she talk is pure evil. She had zero remorse.

[@GLamoRousCooKie]

The daughter has been abused and brainwashed her entire life by her father. He manipulated her into helping him by convincing her he's going to commit suicide. I find it odd how you have a lot of harsh words for tha daughter but none for the actual murderer and domestic abuser? Huh? That's very peculiar.

[@allisonjames2923]

While it seems like she got a light sentence, she was used, abused & brainwashed by her father. I wish she’d been sentenced to a psychiatric facility for deprogramming rather than prison, so she could actually have some of that damage be undone

[@thekenzieandkenna]

@@GLamoRousCooKie still no excuse to murder someone.

[@IwasBlueb4]

Well, if u know she has zero remorse, u should also know, that she will NOT feel guilt

[@IwasBlueb4]

@@GLamoRousCooKie Drone didnt need to speak about the evil father, cos he got what he deserved, whereas the EVIL daughter did not

[@realdeal2283]

This happened local to me so this hits closer to home than usual! It makes me feel just that much sadder knowing a woman, a mother, a person was suffering in silence like this! I wish she didn't have to be murdered this way... Anything but this

[@chdessert]

Her tone completely changing within seconds of her 911 call gave me chills.

[@sophiapeters8206]

This story hits a little too close, the description of Lloyd and his treatment of his family sounds nearly identical to my own father. This case is absolutely disgusting! I'm especially appalled by the daughter's involvement

[@redangel500]

I’m so speechless. This mother lost her life for nothing. May her souls Rest In Peace 🙏

[@savannahraebecnel]

i don’t know how i just found this channel but im so happy. all these videos will be watched.

[@janedoe2605]

I believe this is similar to Suzanne Morphew case. That sob’s girls knew, at least the older one knew what was going to happen to her mother. But they were smart about it.

[@texasrefugee7888]

My ex-husband was a covert narcissist who used the children to punish me for leaving him. He turned the children against me and alienated them from me almost to this point. I don't know my son or daughter. And they don't know me. They were totally brainwashed and completely because his mother did anything for her little Johnny and spent years and thousands and thousands on lawyers to have him hound me, the children. They were trained to look for dirt on Mommy. Mommy can't do anything right she's crazy she's a psycho and a liar and all kinds of other stuff they still believe. And I've stopped trying to change them I have no contact with them.

[@shannajohnson9031]

@@texasrefugee7888 your comment resonated with me so much. I’m going through this same thing myself with my kids’ father. It’s the most mentally torturing thing I’ve ever dealt with. His mom pays for lawyer fees etc. and I’m just at a loss on what to do anymore. ☹️

[@janedoe2605]

@@texasrefugee7888 I am truly sorry for what you had been and still going through. I am furious behalf of you. I dont have enough words. I wish I could ease your pain. If you dont mind me asking, when you look back were there any signs of his behaviour? Red flags? That you realize now or you underestemated then.

[@FirstLast-vj2sr]

This made me so sad. My mother is so valuable i cant imagine doing something like this, pure evil. Poor lady she seemed like a good person too.

[@FirstLast-vj2sr]

@Abby and her daughter who was brain washed by her evil Husband was a good daughter to her??? There is NO EXCUSE FOR SUCH HORRIBLE CRIME. SHAME ON YOU FOR TRYING TO DEFEND WHATS NOT DEFENDABLE.

[@samo2172]

Michele looked like such a beautiful and kind woman, she deserved so much better. I could never understand how someone could do such a thing to their own parents, their own mother! I would ride or die for my mother despite her flaws. This case is so heartbreaking. R.I.P. Michele

[@sweetie523]

can't get enough of this channel! Thank you

[@rebeccaxo1218]

Some people really should be locked up and throw away the key. They're vile ☹️

[@ce6ej]

I know this video is 4 months old now, but your “recent surge in support” is because of YOU (Mr. Narrator). You’re AWESOME at what you do… 👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻

[@robotaholic]

In the beginning of your uploads, I like how you take the time to give condolences to the victims, their friends and family for two reasons. Of course because they deserve it, but also it helps my tiny brain to keep track of who did what to who- lol ps love your channel and the introduction theme loops actually loop in my mind when I'm hung over really bad lolololol

[@WobblesandBean]

This is why women are afraid of men. This guy manipulated his teenage daughter into helping him murder her mother. I do agree that she got off WAY too easy, but the simple fact is, this man told his daughter he was going to kill himself if she didn't do it, filled her head with all sorts of lies to make his daughter hate her mother, and toyed with her emotions for months. He is pure evil, and if not for him, that poor woman would still be alive today.

[@macewindu4442]

Ever hear of the series "Deadly Women". It's a great true crime series up to season 14 now. Plenty of manipulative women turning family or friends into their tools fir murder. Although women murder less than men, they tend to kill less directly than men do. Favoured methods include seducing another to kill, anti freeze, debilitating substances etc. In summary men and women can be evil and manipulative, but generally men are more direct and more kill often.

[@mitunacaptor9819]

@@macewindu4442 don’t know why guys feel the need to throw a few women out there to make it seem equal . Women’s fear of men are totally and completely justified cause men are more violent also bigger .

[@macewindu4442]

@@mitunacaptor9819 I agree men are more violent than women in general, hence the 2 lines I clearly mentioned "Although women murder less than men" and "generally men are more direct and kill more often". In no way did I "make it seem equal". In this specific case the man is a horrible example of a human being manipulating his own daughter from a vulnerable age to commit an unspeakable act. His actions were akin to grooming. Each case must be judged on it's own merit however as there are exceptions. It is mostly men but not always men.

[@thatsonyou6093]

@@macewindu4442 ok yes but nobody said its only men just so many of them that women and women presenting people are scared of them

[@GabrielAKAFinn]

@@mitunacaptor9819 I wonder what other biological differences men have from women

[@asamatteroffact9247]

Thanks!

[@dkg2434]

These are so well done, the music the narration everything on point. Appreciate the content 🙏🏻

[@agent7461]

The way Karries voice changed right off the bat when asked about her sister was so obvious! I absolutely loved the football tackle!! It was great!

[@bouytb]

I have never been so fascinated by true crime documentaries like now for one obvious reason : narrator Jason 🙌

[@Le60o]

I thought it was particularly thoughtful that you expressed your sympathies to Michele’s family before diving into such a sad story .. you spoke for me as well 🙏🇦🇺

[@rosewater3]

Wow, they're vile and soulless! Listening to the daughter on the 911 call and then talking with her father chilled me to the bone 😱 The dad is a manipulative narcissist. The way he groomed his daughter is utterly sickening. When he told his daughter he was going to kill himself because that was the only choice left, reminded me of my dad saying that same exact thing to me, the day before my Mum took her own life. This case is shocking, devastating and heartbreaking 💔 My heart goes out to the victim, her 2 other daughters and loved one's. 🙏💗🕊️ On a happier note, Mazel Tov to The Fear Files on reaching 300k subscribers! Your channel consistently puts out compelling content! I always look forward to watching a new upload 🙂 Much love to all❣️ ✌️💙✨

[@amethyst5538]

I was just sitting here scrolling through these comments and thinking how thankful I was nobody else had experienced a father that manipulative. 🙁 Internet hugs about your mom. Sounds like you've been through the ringer twice or more.

[@rosewater3]

@@amethyst5538 oh goodness 💗 🤗 hugs happily received and right back at you 💞 Thank you for your kindness and warmth. You're a GEM 💎 Oh the life I've had... I've been told by many a folk that I should write a book... Hmm 🤔 ✌️💙✨

[@lindalucia6334]

Thanks so much for this upload. It’s a long and daunting job but we are all grateful.

[@Kat-sg9dl]

Congrats on your new milestone:) And all coming your way. So refreshing to see a great channel growing and not pumping the ads and patreon 300k now happy to be here to see success for you up and up🙂

[@renee1961]

Thank you for the video. This is So Heartbreaking! 💔💔💔💔🙏🙏🙏🙏🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️ Rest in Peace Michelle

[@samanthameinhardt884]

I love this channel 💕 and I wish you could do some longer stories! Always a fan 🙂👋🏼

[@joeframo3347]

Man I'm telling you it gets crazier every minute thank you for sharing 👍

[@benmcreynolds8581]

Got it's scary how we can get so brainwashed.... That tapped phone call is so eerie. Just how the Dad controls his daughter...

[@newlin83]

Now this is horror that should give you chills. Imagine all the warning signs that the family law judge saw and ignored. I ultimately blame the family law judge in their case for botching this to an extreme degree, that judge should be in jail along with the father.

[@azureavocado5195]

The moment I saw Michelle’s picture… I just wanted to give her a GIANT HUG. _Now, I know why._ RIP 🕊

[@benringenberg2394]

If you catch this, just found your channel, and I love it. Well done my friend.

[@ohaiClemmy]

This is some of the craziest shit I've ever heard.

[@allisonjames2923]

The cold callousness of the daughter & ex straight after Karrie spoke to the police is astounding. Not a drop of remorse. And he coaches her without hesitation.

[@lisalynnmarie2448]

Holy narcissist! The twist in the story I wasn't expecting. How could any "father" ask their child to help kill their own mother, let alone say it's "me or your mother?" Paraphrasing there. Unbelievable. I'm sure Kerry has been in a living hell since that day. I hope she now understands what her dad did to her and hope she can find peace within herself. That's one choice I'd never make, no matter what.

[@loveforeignaccents]

Yeah, dad sounded sketchy from the get-go.

[@Sick_Boy]

I feel for the friend that found her in that haunting, horror movie-like pose, first thinking she was weirdly standing motionless, then seeing her hanging...😬😳

[@Steviemarie502]

I was thinking the same thing. You can't get more selfish than that. Then the fact that the father had been abusing and manipulating his ex wife and daughters for years! His daughter was set up to fail no matter what happened. Don't get me wrong, she shouldn't have helped and she should've told someone what her dad was saying he was going to do. But I can understand how and why she felt that she had to go along with what he said.

[@msjessm80]

I agree Stevie Hayes but once she heard her Mom yelling, forget it. Then helping toss her over. Sad. That's really taking it to the next level.

[@luckiestunluckypersonever4278]

@@msjessm80 I totally agree with you.

[@eddiemoore6962]

Finally a story I haven't heard before. Great work.

[@Giantshredder]

Daddy was definitely into his daughter. Gross.

[@CMimsz]

Because it may be true. Their is being involved with your children... Then their is being way too involved to know you can trust your daughter to kill your ex wife.

[@princesspanda12012]

@Abby because you know them personally?

[@Aliciapaige777]

The stories are amazing. I’m a huge fan of this podcast. I’m so glad you’re telling the stories for all of these victims you’re doing a great job keep it up I’m a super fan for life💛💛💛

[@billding7073]

I knew a narcissist prick like Lloyd and hired him as a foreman in my contracting business back in the early 1990's. He had two teenage boys that worshiped him and cowtowed to him. He and his sons had a run in with one of my clients, said nothing about it and I heard nothing about it for several weeks. When I finanally got feedback from my client that my foreman had showed up with his sons threatening the client and damaging his property. I fired him immediately. He and his sons were later arrested for felony battery and property theft ending in all three getting jail time.

[@kayb8211]

I'm in the middle of giving up smoking (weed) I'm 5 days in and feeling it. I haven't slept since last friday 🤣 anyway I was up last night catching up on a few videos I've missed recently, thanks for getting me through this tough moment in time. Love the videos and the way you tell their stories! Your voice is great for story telling 🙏 I love the true crime community on KZbin- it's an awesome place to be when you are lonely 💜

[@brianfreer4942]

Hang in there...I'm 13 days in...it does get easier...

[@simianflu]

hope the best for u, stay strong !!

[@kayb8211]

@@brianfreer4942 I really hope so 😆 I didn't realise the withdrawal would be quite this bad!

[@kayb8211]

@@simianflu thank you 🙏

[@aurorincorporated]

It’ll definitely get better, the first few days up to a week suck (- if You were into it heavily) , but with awesome crime shows like this one it’s almost like a breeze. =) imagine how good it’ll feel in a month when all those darned dopamine levels and things get back into balance! (-ps, some more nice things to listen to: dr Andrew Huberman’s podcast and while You’re at it, mr Jocko Willinck. I’d be lost without them).

[@rhwinner]

Thanks for keeping the stock video reels to a minimum and using actual footage whenever possible. Nothing ruins a documentary video post more than stock video clips. Best of luck, and thank you for the great content!

[@user-bg6qg4rh1b]

Creepy how her voice changed so quick on that phone call😨

[@ktat01]

My gosh… nobody deserves to go out like that. The betrayal…

[@donna_carver]

Greatest Narrator! Thank you.

[@Sophie_Anne_21]

She's sobbing and can't get it out and then the huge shift to "yeah in my apartment" was so disconnected holy sh-

[@bott3849]

I work in Corning and live in the local area. This is a quiet town so this was a shocking story.

[@weedhound]

In upstate New York in general, crime has risen extremely unfortunately it’s everywhere going on here

[@eyewheelphindyou5003]

It really irks me when people think they're SOOOOO smart & cunning enough to get away with murder, but fucking straight up ruin their cover story with the first phone call to the police. Like it happens every time.

[@kcrow430]

Yep

[@sandycartwright5808]

Love the narrator voice, calming in tragedy! Please audition for Dateline!!!!

[@lisasisserman7452]

I am so excited countdown!!!

[@Lightthebeam1980]

You do an excelent job deep diving into cases

[@RUN9mm]

Stoned to the bone and ready for this 🤖

[@melissagottlieb3381]

Me too! Let's go...

[@K-a-n-d-i-s]

Wish I was stoned fml lol

[@artanuspaintus6229]

Glad im not the only one

[@TexasDebBoomerBabe]

🕵🏻‍♀️ready 💚

[@SchoobieDoo]

i’ve found my kinddddd

[@MariaLopez-tx3mj]

TFF, awesome and eloquent job, as always 👏 Much much love ❤ your way from Houston Texas ❤

[@leneo1731]

Holy crap. I knew parents could have control and power over their children but this is insane!!

[@_am.ber_]

Great video! I am really digging your style!

[@MrHusang23]

Love the voice of this narrator, also the signature music!

[@1Gibson]

Narcissism narcissism just as deadly as a psychopath. 11 yrs did i live in fear, abuse of all sorts and my children having to deal with hearing the verbal abuse. Finally free of it all and my children in my care soley and life is peaceful. Doesnt stop the bad dreams of myself and kids from time to time thinking he came back, but then we wake up and know we are safe. Bless the poor sister and all that mother had to endure.. funny how society says speak up about abuse, but when one does, its shruged off... till its too late.

[@upshitcreek998]

This very easily could have been me! My ex almost had my kids turned against me in the very same way. It’s a good thing I decided to take my chances with leaving him when I did. I had I waited much longer he would have won I’ve four girls. LADIES don’t stay for the Children.. MEN don’t stay for the children the older they get the more brainwashed they become. It took a year for me gain their trust and respect it was painful and felt like the longest year of my life… go when they are young… just go when they are young

[@thatsonyou6093]

Im so sorry, i wish you all the best!!

[@upshitcreek998]

@@thatsonyou6093 thank you I’m doing amazing now! I’m remarried and happy and being loved in the way I deserved to be loved all along. Don’t get me wrong, I hear “I’m so stupid” in my head a lot still and “omg I just backed into a car he’s gonna kill me” but then I remind myself my husband is NOT that guy.

[@truth_serumm]

If it was a son that helped instead of a daughter he’d be locked up for life. Truly is a woman’s world

[@hanniefrei]

As soon as I heard the 911 call I knew who did it. You'd think someone who committed a crime would be smart enough to ensure she wont get suspected st least not immediately but she did it just seconds in speaking with 911.

[@welsh.truth.dragon3914]

WoW that switch of voice was chilling. Don’t know what has happed yet only up to this part. But that switch was eerie

[@robotaholic]

Can you even imagine having a conversation with a sibling about the murder of one of your parents and how you intend to go about it. Just the idea of that is absolutely insane

[@marykrampitz7623]

I just found your channel and love your content. Just subscribed and can’t wait to binge watch past episodes and looking forward to new content 💝

[@prettyuglysupernovarudegur2310]

Wow I can’t believe this I’m sure micelles would’ve sold her life insurance policy in exchange for her life . So said . Poor women .

[@jennamarielovesjesus12]

Wow, that young lady only got one to three years for help killing her mother with her father, I don’t care if she was coerced or not , she’s a murderer