"The Two Marxisms" Losurdo's Western Marxism Study Group (Session II)

[@atwarwithdust]

Anyone know the date of that Engels letter to Marx in which he wrote that ‘middle-class socialism will put the workers to sleep’?

[@emancipations]

It was to José Mesa in 1891 wikirouge.net/texts/en/Letter_to_Jos%C3%A9_Mesa,_March_24,_1891

[@zolo2036]

hopefully Baidou comes through with that correspondence

[@avantgardeparti]

conrad talked about the paradox of soviet union redemption of imperialism which meant that the ussr was basically doing a reverse-empire. where can I dig more on this? any sources to read?

[@joeyrufo]

1:30:02 yes! Just because you're not necessarily part of what Marx would've considered the "proletariat" doesn't mean you're not BEING PROLETARIANIZED!!!

[@Barklord]

There's an interesting master's thesis (below) that seems to be getting at the problem you mentioned in the opening minutes. I found it helpful to explain why I had no class awareness and no language for it. Both my dad and grandfather were past commanders of local American Legion and anti-union Reaganites. Rowan digital works: AGAINST THE CLASSES AND THE MASSES: THE AMERICAN LEGION, THE AMERICAN FEDERATION OF LABOR, AND SQUARE DEAL AMERICANISM IN THE 1920S -by Gregory S. Hopely

[@StephenSchleis]

Thank you

[@IvoNeto1949]

4:10 you are describing adorno

[@emancipations]

@@IvoNeto1949 woah hadn’t considered that but it makes sense

[@Cyberphunkisms]

JESSICA COCO IS ON POINT

[@joeyrufo]

1:34:08 OMG! I have Goldner's book _The Two Marxisms!_ Goldner was full of it! His prophecied "nightmare Marxism" has not come to pass! Quite the opposite, in fact! 👀💀