The Uberti Bisley Cattleman Blackpowder revolver

[@jeffersoncarlisle3125]

I like the Bisley look. Watching you shoot it allowed me to see how the grip fits in the hand. Very interesting, thanks! I bet the previous owner was drinking when that front sight job was attempted.

[@johnzx6r]

The Bisley grip works better than you think it would. It's hard to describe, but when aiming the pistol it just seems to hang there. You don't really have to put a lot of effort into gripping the pistol - It just naturally fits your hand and you just need a light hold on it. For something that looks so weird, it's amazingly effective. I don't know what the idea was behind that sight. I can't figure out what range it would be sighted in for. With how high it was shooting at 25 yards, it has to be sighted in for close to 100 yards. I'm not sure of the reasoning of sighting in a relatively low powered black powder revolver out to that range.

[@jeffersoncarlisle3125]

@@johnzx6r Neat about the grip. I bet the pistol was already shooting a little high and the person thought that lowering the front sight would help. Nope, it still shoots high. Take another shot of whiskey and file her down some more...still a beautiful gun though...would be worth it to have a professional put a new sight on it!

[@jeffersoncarlisle3125]

@@johnzx6r hey, I was looking on ebay and there are some front sights that might work called "Pair Sure Hit Revolver Sights." Looks like they fit over the original sight and are maybe JBweld-ed on...I would post a link but that wouldn't be allowed here.

[@johnzx6r]

@@jeffersoncarlisle3125 I looked these up, and it seems like they might do the trick. I'm going to place an order for them today - thanks for the tip!

[@jeffersoncarlisle3125]

@@johnzx6r cool! Not very cheap but probably way more affordable than a gunsmith! ....I just received the shotgun bead for my "home made" 1851 Navy snubby....still waiting on the drill bit and tap.

[@jimmybritt9537]

The guy must have sighted in for 100yards 😂🤣🇺🇸 Sweet piece , really like the bisley style 👍👍🇺🇸

[@blackpowdershooter44]

That's a neat adaptation of the Bisley. Enjoyed the video!

[@johnzx6r]

Thank you, sir!

[@blackpowderfirearmenthusia3194]

Good looking revolver, too bad about the front sight, but that can be fixed pretty easy, still a great revolver, I love that it has the look of a cartridge revolver but is a percussion revolver. Thanks for sharing.

[@johnzx6r]

Thank you. I was able to purchase a replacement front sight for this. Now it is just a matter of installing it. Hopefully I'll have this working the way I want it to soon.

[@blackpowderfirearmenthusia3194]

@@johnzx6r awesome, maybe we could get a second video with the new front sight.

[@NOOBKIAtv]

We need a Bisley update!

[@johnzx6r]

Unfortunately nothing really to update. I did buy a new front sight for it, but I have yet to get it installed. Someday.

[@Naidyonov7]

I think the Front sight was shaved for quick draw reasons. Smaller chance of it getting caught in the holster, so the owner most likely used it for shooting from the hip only. Ngl i think it looks better this way but it does effect the aiming badly. It reminds me of the Colt m1860 front sight, wich is more smooth looking than the big front sight of the SAA.

[@tonysalecki]

Some people file front sights down for faster holster draws and instinctively shoot, like off the hip. Front sights are braised in and can be replaced. Also, change your nipples to Slix Shot nipples. Slix shots are ported larger and have side vents. That way the blow back doesn’t push spent caps back into your action

[@adriannyasia]

At my uncles passing back in 2000, part of his belongings (which my mother inherited) included one of these Ubertis. Been in storage ever since. I haven’t able to find any info on it as of yet. It has a 7” barrel with a 3” cylinder. No markings at all only a 44cf by the trigger guard. Any info would be appreciated. If we can’t find any info on it, I guess we’ll just destroy it or turn it over to our local police department. 🤷🏼‍♂️🫡

[@susanmenegus5543]

Nice revolver.

[@gregsr1]

the cap problem is common on colt percussion guns. the gun is probably set for 50 yards

[@charlescomly1]

I think the previous owner was confused about what they were doing.

[@johnzx6r]

I still don't know what distance this was zeroed for. Considering how high it shoots at 25 yards, according to my calculations it will still be quite high even out to 50. Maybe 100 yards? But why in the world would someone zero a percussion revolver to that distance?

[@michaelconquergood9556]

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[@michaelconquergood9556]

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[@alanspring8462]

Nice

[@robertbarker5802]

What an odd duck of a gun. Neat though. My best guess at the sight was someone wanted either to fast draw point shoot to point of aim or it's the old aim at the belt buckle to an extreme.

[@johnzx6r]

That's a possible explanation. I still can't think of any other possible reason they would want it to hit so off at any practical distance. Playing around with one of those ballistic calculators, from where the bullets were hitting at the distances I was shooting, as it stands now it appears that the point of impact to point of aim would be 150 yards!

[@StevenMMan]

So I personally have been a big fan of the Bisley style grips. Now when it comes to this particular revolver I'm not a big fan. I owned one of these (standard frame),and it's not for me. I have been a Remington guy for too long. For me it is about the ease of loading. on a side note I now have all of my test molds for all 3 calibers of cap and ball revolvers. 8 different. 31 bullet, 4 - .36, and 8 different for the .44. For the .44 there is 4 choices for Remington/small colt, and 4 choices for the Ruger/walker. If you're interested I can give you more information and pictures.

[@johnzx6r]

I am also a Remington fan boy, but I'm kind of liking these things, so far - warts and all. Sounds like you have been putting a lot of work into this. I am very interested in what you're working on.

[@SlickSixguns]

Not really a fan of the percussion cylinders in a more modern wheel gun

[@johnzx6r]

I don't really disagree - these are more or less designed to be a solution to a problem that shouldn't exist. Unfortunately, there are jurisdictions where it's difficult if not impossible to own the cartridge firing version. I live in a not so gun friendly state, and it's difficult to get an SAA clone here, but something like this is much easier to acquire. Not ideal, but sometimes you have to make compromises.

[@SlickSixguns]

@@johnzx6r agreed I personally am just not a fan of them, but thank you for the review

[@ronaldkennedy2401]

it seems to be the predecessor of the uberti 1873 cattleman.for some reason they have 2 barrel length options.a 5.5 and a 4 5/8.its not convertible either.its supposed to be the percussion version of a colt 1873 single action army.its a good looking gun but the reason I won't ever buy one is that instead of a loading lever it sports a faux ejector rod.it looks like that version has the same.do videos more often.that goes for you too slix sixguns.

[@johnzx6r]

After posting this video, I found out a little more about it. The Cattleman name is apparently more recent. These were at the time labeled as Avancarica, which apparently means "muzzle-loader" in Italian. I assume this was to differentiate these from the cartridge firing versions of them. No loading lever on these - this comes with a (now useless) ejector rod, so the only way to load this is on a separate loading stand. Video was getting a little long, so I wasn't able to get around to mentioning that. I'm trying to put out more videos. I never seem to have the time to do the things I would like to do!

[@tehpurplepills]

obviously, cartridges are just better, period. but if you're going percussion, this is basically the only (modern) looking one ive seen. ( as modern as a 150 yr old+ gun style is) The single-action look is better looking and a bit thinner than the loading lever percussion style, IMHO.

[@egomaniac8510]

Unfortunate about the sight. My guess is you could replace it or build it back up. My uberti new army has a very high front sight. Which is the second reason I bought it. It has reviewed as a close to point of aim .

[@johnzx6r]

I did pick up a new front sight for it. Now it is just a mater of getting it installed.

[@paulparkinson1379]

Makes me wonder how far the site filer was trying to set the sights for, was it 300 yards or something?

[@johnzx6r]

I have no idea. I know it would still be way high at 50 yards. Maybe 100? But why would you sight in a percussion revolver for that distance? Makes no sense to me.

[@scottscheuerman6170]

It probably be cheaper to get another barrel from Taylor or a Uberti distributor and change it out

[@johnzx6r]

I have given thought about going that route. Right now, a new barrel is about $130, and I'm not sure if the front sight is already installed on it. I don't think putting a new barrel onto the frame is a task I'd be capable of doing, so that means I'd have to send it out to have someone install it for me, so there is another added expense. So I'm not sure yet what I want to do about this.

[@scottscheuerman6170]

@@johnzx6r I would ask before purchasing but that’s the easiest way to get it fixed you will have find someone with a barrel Vice or get one if that barrel isn’t too tite you can use a cut 2x4 in the cylinder window

[@johnzx6r]

@@tehpurplepills I picked up a new front sight for it, now I just have to find someone to put it on for me! They must not have made the Bisley models for very long. Not too many seem to pop up for sale.

[@justme1125]

They was probably shooting it at 50yards that why it's shooting to high

[@johnzx6r]

I had thought about that, and that might be the case. I may try it out at that distance, just to see if that is indeed where it hits to point of aim, but I think I will still get the front sight replaced. I rarely have reason to shoot a blackpowder revolver at that distance.

[@CapnSchep]

That’s a shame about the front sight ..

[@johnzx6r]

It sure is :(

[@claytonalexander9105]

you could at least clean it up a lot better. or Dixie gun works and VTI can sell an original blade sight or brass stock to shape anew one.

[@stevenharrington9174]

Creepy guy

[@kennethhamby9811]

This a supposed copy of a gun that never existed. All colt Bisleys were cartridge pistols.

[@quickturn66]

The 1873 cap and ball pistols were mainly brought out for the European market because it’s almost impossible for them to have cartridge guns and with it they can have the 6 shooter seen in all the westerns.

[@StevenMMan]

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