The Ugliest Jet Fighter

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The Ugliest Jet Fighter
Sea Vixen

[@PhlyDaily]

What is your number one ugly jet fighter? Yak-17 is a close second for me or even first lol

[@g36c58]

Hi

[@enchantedviperh1288]

Mine is u

[@oddball1999]

ugly? u wot m8?

[@hybr1dmeteor]

Could you do a video on the f-8 crusader phly?

[@Unclechokey1995]

Ugliest is the Me 262

[@PiersLawsonBrown1972]

Due to the size of the radome, if the cockpit was traditional tandem layout, the pilots view of the carrier would be obscured during landings, so it was offset to the left giving the pilot much better visability. The radar op had no need to see outside the plane so sitting him lower makes sense although was probably not too nice to fly, a bit like the Canberra PR 9. So ugly, kinda, but functional.

[@Altimoo]

Glad to see someone else answer this. A lot of offset cockpits are intended to bolster runway visibility.

[@Roboticwhale19]

Thats what I thought. pretty neat

[@greg5435]

If that is the purpose of having the offset cockpits, why not put the pilot on the right so they can better see they towers on the carrier? It would make more sense in my mind for it to be on the right rather than the left. Anyone have a good idea on why they put him on the left rather than the right?

[@loganholmberg2295]

its also an all weather? night fighter so putting the radar operator in a compartment on his own has advantages.

[@ach3909]

@@greg5435 Very simple. There is little need for the pilot to see the Island of a carrier. But the pilot ABSOLUTELY have to see the Optical Landing System (those set of lights that tells him if he's on the correct glide slope on landing) which so happens to be positioned on the port side of the flightdeck.

[@bdc96]

The Sea Vixen is actually a really good plane. Just wish it had guns lol.

[@bigmanjaffers]

In real life it is so beautiful I promise! Also is massive compared to its forebears lol

[@ollilaine6763]

If it had guns, it would have a higher BR in-game so it's a good thing it doesn't have guns.

[@othnielmcfarlane3612]

@@bigmanjaffers i used to hate the way it looks, but now its one of my fav planes

[@humantwist-offcap9514]

I adore that plane

[@detectivepatchouli8266]

i wish they put the buccaneer in 8.7 or 9.0 at least instead of 9.3....

[@blaket1491]

Phly controlling his breathing for the G's has me cryin 🤣🤣

[@efethecaptain6]

I have never realized it, can you give some time stamps ?

[@bjoran83]

14:35 here you go buddy. 😆

[@FillyCheesteak]

Heya Phly, phor my phiphth vehicle request, I ask that you take out the Phrench AMX-50 Surbaissé, but there is a catch! You must *only* use HE. It should be an easy challenge, as there is a 6 second reload, and the HE penetrates 39 Millimeters of Armour. Good luck, and have Phun! (Day 42)

[@Laconianarms]

funniest comment i've read today, but keep up the ph-s inconsistency is dreadful

[@legoguy8881]

Keep it up

[@destroyerarmor2846]

I've been busting up light tanks with the HE👌

[@indogen2198]

Yeah vive la framce

[@Stiggy_Sped]

I didn’t know it was possible to comment in lisp

[@agustinf1372]

Imagine him in DCS Like a kid in a candyshoop

[@BOTiTTE]

I would love to see more sim play on the channel

[@fundeath712]

Best episode in a long time. Man actually hit us with the War Thunder ASMR.

[@AmbeanWambulance]

Omg ikr!! I normally don't like asmr but phly is really good at it🥺

[@Crater_Stiig]

Best WT gameplay

[@GatoConBotas403]

Fun fact: the Panzer IV’s turret is offset from center by a couple millimeters

[@mateuszk887]

My inner perfectionist is literally crying right now.

[@thesittingacheroraptor7565]

You have reminded me of this fact, may your woes be many and your days few

[@efethecaptain6]

@@mateuszk887 Well, your body, inside and out is not symmetrical either, so don't worry about it

[@GatoConBotas403]

@@thesittingacheroraptor7565 bruh

[@Mystic-Midnight]

@@efethecaptain6 I am simply built different and perfectly symmetrical other than my heart.

[@bobselser3950]

Might not apply to the Sea Vixen but often when you see an asymmetrical cockpit canopy it's to improve the pilots vision for take off and landing.

[@clintonjfox]

Genuinely love your enthusiasm and kiddish enjoyment of RP’ing a scrambled carrier launch. Never change sir.

[@ollilaine6763]

FYI: the Red Tops have extremely high drag so you can't yeet them from far away like they actually have much shorter range than the AIM-9Bs.

[@bruhmomentum2901]

They have pretty much same range as aim-9b, but it still better than aim-9b with those 16g it has.

[@ollilaine6763]

@@bruhmomentum2901 You can test them in a test flight. If you launch the Red Top from over 2,5km away behind the MiG-15, it will not reach it. An AIM-9B would reach it.

[@bruhmomentum2901]

@@ollilaine6763 This is funny since it did reach it but its prob because i launch them from higher alt because vixen aint no dog fighter hes a zoom and boomer except 2,5km range (they almost always hit their target from high alt and oh boy i know that i bought vixen)

[@ollilaine6763]

@@bruhmomentum2901 From a higher altitude, it uses gravity to keep its speed up for longer. At a high altitude, the high drag becomes more difficult to notice due to lower air density.

[@bean2349]

Hey phly, I have a vehicle request. Because of the new update, custom loadout filters allow the saab-105 and sk-60 to become much more potent, as they can carry missiles, bombs, and gun pods at once. 8.3 sweden also has a lot of variety, and 7.3 is pretty fun as well. Of course it can be pretty frustrating at times, but I would love to see you try. There is also the new swedish spaa that you can play at 8.3. Thanks for the consideration!

[@ImAFatCheezIt]

Saab105G with 4x1000lb bombs and 2 guns or missiles guns and bombs is amazing, the new SPAA also has Leopard 2a4 hull with composite so it's well protected and fast

[@molstad182]

@@ImAFatCheezIt best loadout is 3 1000 lbs, 2 missiles, 1 gunpod

[@laplthelullemann]

16:09 I sure as hell wasn't expecting Phly-ASMR today, but I'm all here for it!

[@darkshadow7709]

I was looking for this comment

[@djcoote76]

The Sea Vixen was an all-weather fighter with a huge radome on the nose. Deck landing requires a good view, so the pilot was put to one side of the fuselage so he could see the carrier round the radome.

[@nuttyjawa]

been watchin Phly for YEARS and YEARS - teh ASMR at the end had me in sticthes, love you Steve

[@slow2serious860]

Fun fact: Red Tops are bugged rn, they completely run out of juice after about 3 seconds of flight. Not as in "no more burner" juice, but "can't catch up with a vampire".

[@Ben-ru3xb]

Phly not even 2 minutes into the video: 'egg is symmetrical' wat

[@poisonarc]

The Sea Vixen has RADAR slaving so that's super helpful and in theory it can now all aspect a AB jet. You may also be able to use Red Nose rockets as a sort of 'gun' and/or as a sort of 'flare'.

[@atzenbachcs1735]

I love your dedication when you rammed that guy. That’s the best what you could have done for your wingman there. Thank you for your service. Amazing scene… probably my favorite from the last years

[@rileybaddock5883]

so im not the only one that likes to roleplay a fighter pilot while everyone is grinding 😂

[@jamessadler5847]

The prototype had 4x 30mm Adens. Production types also had retractable microcell 2in rocket pods.

[@tomaskoupil5994]

Hey! I like seeing more of Air RB content! Well done and thank you. Cheers

[@alphawolf6214]

you were talking about strong engines without afterburners, i suggest you to try out the Etendard IVM, he is really fast and have insane guns and maneuvrability

[@chrissugg968]

One of the worst Sea Vixen accidents was when one disintegrated in flight at Farnborough Airshow in 1952, whilst approaching the crowd from the front. The engines, being heavy, continued moving forwards and fell into the crowd.

[@adamrousek2200]

The F-104 is now at 9.3, which is ridiculous. The only thing that can challange it at that br is the Mig-19. Anyways great vid Phly!

[@darktemplardelta268]

It's one of those jets like the mig 19 where decompression is needed rather than dropping the br

[@marcusborderlands6177]

104 is at 9.3, but the hunter f6 is at 10.0 and the new hunter is at 9.3 as well... with flares and 9p's what has this game come to?

[@darktemplardelta268]

@@marcusborderlands6177 actually those missiles on the new hunter look more like a copy of aim 9js which makes it even more rediculous

[@sgthop]

@@darktemplardelta268 9Ps are just export 9Js.

[@neuropathical]

yeah im sure the f104 with 2 aim 9b's and horrible turn is gonna do really well at 10.0 or something

[@ondrejhalaska656]

Thank you for suggesting to create RWR switch control, hopefully they consider it. It's been bugging me like crazy cause I really enjoy higher tier Air RB but after a while that RWR is soooooooo annoying!

[@simonduval8886]

Man, phly humour was elite in this one lmao

[@TheOnePercent00001]

Your hurting its feelings. Lol nice content Phyl, keep it up

[@blockstacker5614]

It is beautiful and nothing can change my mind.

[@frokeswinter]

Tried the vixen once when it was in the warbonds shop. Love the turning performance and once you learn the redtops, they are crazy consistent for its BR. Even won multiple 1v3s because of its engine performance

[@SkySweeperSyn]

Attempt 5 - Please play the SAu 40 tank destroyer. It's one of the strangest looking TDs in the game and I love watching your french-tank videos!

[@dukezero5074]

Also now that Air RB has a lot of modern ground AI, which includes Gepards and stuff, not only is the RWR constantly beeping you're also getting locked all the time! It's so annoying haha

[@beerandpolitics5699]

love your bob ross side at the end when you turned the volume off XD

[@-Poldo]

I have been watching you for a few days and when I see your videos I instantly want to play the game

[@dilldoe1991]

Red Tops have some of the shortest range for IR missiles it’s literally equivalent to something like an SRAAM or R-3S reaching maybe a bit more than 1.5km in some scenarios

[@ignacio1171]

Ramming is a lost art because of the repair costs 😭😭😭 I remember a time when once you ran out of ammo, *you became the ammo...*

[@justinpallies]

The sea vixen is gorgeous the rio seat was lowered because his job was "supposed" to be watching the radar and monitoring weapons systems. They were trying to keep it more aerodynamic

[@MemesOfProduction69]

"everyone is doom grinding and I'm just roleplaying with myself." perfectly encapsulates how I play Warthunder lmaooooo

[@W00taSaurusR3x]

Nice RWR video. Thanks Phly.

[@sidbell1747]

It's not surprising to hear how many sea vixens were lost in accidents. One the most famous Air show crashes in the UK happened at farnbourgh in 1952 with a prototype sea vixen.

[@Unteal]

This gonna bea great vid!

[@lukefeaster6607]

The sound of silence and no more beeping lol

[@alexbou7966]

I personally think it's a gorgeous aircraft, even with the cockpit being off centre. Gives it charm.

[@Limey5.0]

I seem to remember reading that there was supposed to be a Sea Vixen FAW3 that incorporated a gun/cannon. The Navy had already decided to replace the Vixen with the Phantom. Killing the idea before it left the drawing board. One of these with a gun would have been epic. Like a fleet air arm F14

[@thecowboyfromcali]

5:23 I'd really love to know how you do some of this stuff with the radar. WT doesn't really like to explain what everything does or how it works, or how to manually select targets using the interface. And 7:00 yes. The American F-104A fights at 8.7 a lot since it's only 9.3. It gets a downtier a LOT since the A-10 and F-5 platforms dominate the 10.7 range, but it sits just outside that uptier threshold, so it prefers to get downtiers with the Sea Vixen, G91, and F86. The Italian F-104G suffers the same BR threshold, where it likes to downtier more than uptier based on how many premium players there are at those BR's and it being just outside the next rank. It's especially bad compression now that they have 16 person lobbies.

[@peterwoods474]

Sea Vixen had two trays of unguided, spin stabilised rockets under the nose in addition to the Red Top missiles. Originally had Fire Streak for astern attacks on Russian Badgers.

[@deruebermolch9300]

Only the faw1 had these since the cooling equipment for the red tops was located in these trays.

[@U_Jelly]

14:32 Reminds me of that old g force tutorial with the premium chika in like 2013 lmao

[@Casual7646]

I've unlocked all the UK tech tree with this thing, I love it

[@AgeOfHeroesOfficial]

when he's trying not to say "butter face" so he just says we know XD, great video!

[@Promitheos]

Love the realistic G breathing roleplay action.

[@LuskiiTV534]

Phly we need you to make a tier list of planes an tanks in war thunder.

[@Albus_Rex]

As someone with a lot of experience putting bags over heads, I couldn't agree with you more Phly.

[@imbored6953]

“Woah woah… Missle?” Had me dying

[@Lewd-Tenant_Isan]

Phly the F-104 is at a better BR than it was before, but you will still mostly fight planes with missiles and flares. That being said I would LOVE to see play the Starfighter again!

[@-Karnage]

I need more PhlyDaily ASMR. seriously.

[@taliwaholi5597]

PhlyDaily ASMR for your viewing and listening pleasure

[@SFCDaddio]

I legit thought this was a cursed thumbnail, and then a user mission. I am in awe at how this was in someone's mind goblins.

[@FALLEN_THANE]

Damn, fly really calling the Vixen "Foxy Lady" ugly.

[@kaveman6143]

Radar operator was seated in the hole due to the original radar screen being quite dim. Also, the pilot was offset to see better for landings.

[@Eagle-kp7fx]

I love the vixen, so glad it gets attention

[@dustylabrodor2096]

I love the sea vixen. it was my first british top premium and i dont regret buying it bc it carried me from like 7.0 to 11.3 air rb in the british tech tree

[@Bitchesgivehigh5s]

Same, took me forever to learn. But once i got it, its my SL grind. I hate it gets uptiered to Harriers and 104s. The flares annoy me.

[@dustylabrodor2096]

@@Bitchesgivehigh5s yea took time to learn but its great

[@retrotrooper3957]

I totally agree with you, except for me, the vixen got me from rank 1 to rank 4 Britain air so far. I tend gravitate toward unique vehicles so it’s no surprise that I love the gameplay and have no regrets buying it

[@Bitchesgivehigh5s]

@@retrotrooper3957 Best jet you’ll play. You will play a high of 104 and Harriers and a low of flareless dog shit. Play it like a strike craft, fly in, get to 5k and dive in and don’t look back. Lead missile and you will be the savior of the day. So not stray from that strat. Do not let enemies talk shit to you in chat to change your mind. Bomb if you want, but take 4 Redtops and expect 1/2 kills per load out, you’ll learn that you can watch a whole battle unfold and you will save a lot and Change the battle immensely. Fly a head on but bail much sooner than expected. You can out climb a lot. But if you need to, lead them back to the airfield. Do not feel like a bitch. It’s all about you and nothing else. Do not turn fight and do not fight alone. If you know you have support, let the emery thing they have the fight, you will help them with your speed and climb rate. Vixen is great for many thing in this game.

[@spiruish]

Beautiful aircraft, all the pilots loved it, the asymmetry is cool.

[@alastairstuart5800]

Its a two seater but the weapon operator didnt need to see out... It was lethal because the plate didnt 'eject' properly so at the pilot punched out, the navigator would punch THROUGH, or more accuratly, flatten INTO.

[@MrGrimsmith]

IIRC one of the principal problems of the Sea Vixen was that the high tail plane would still before the main wing leading to an unrecoverable loss of control at high AoA, something that was highlighted in the test flights of this and similar designs at the time. I'd have to check through my books but I *think* it was one of, if not, the last high tailed aircraft used in a combat role by the British military. AFAIK they never fitted guns to the aircraft, one of the points of the design in fact was that it didn't use any.

[@audunskilbrei8279]

-Is there room? Pulls up the war thunder x-ray -Definitely room.

[@roketsnail34]

nobody: that radar operator / radio operator in the coal hole in the sea vixen sipping his tea:

[@riyko3283]

That beeping haunts my every moment.

[@AcidicThought]

Kind of funny, when you first took off and asked if that guy was on afterburner, that was Tankenstein.

[@TeraMrByte]

That ram out of nowhere was hilarious

[@mrdr33mmx]

the volume in the last game of the video made me feel like I was watching golf XD

[@Nova-ns8vr]

Hey Phly you Need to play more often without the Sound. That’s Relaxing somehow.🤣🤣

[@VAD3T]

Hey Phly, You should fly out the Hunter FGA.9 or the Hunter F.58 since they are the same thing but the F.58 is just broken at 9.3 and would be nice to see some more love on the hunters and they are great planes when not versing all aspects

[@IsaacH69]

The French Char 2C with the 75mm is in the game now!!! You should do a video on that, since you did on the 155mm version‼️👀

[@j.a.l.m.8388]

The reason for the cockpit is that the second in command needs darkness to operate his radars better

[@Starkogi]

The ghost missile just…LOL. Also RN rockets are a “good” alternative to having guns. If you can get behind someone they usually give you broadside when you start shooting rockets. It’s great.

[@sully_gamer9299]

Keep up the good content 👌

[@tsd_ju7084]

Phunk! ... I've got a Phly in my room somewhere... I can hear it!

[@IXO20]

That Garand Thumb reference at the end was top notch

[@vgames1543]

It actually looks quite unique and cool in my opinion. Gotta get it somewhen.

[@OddBawZ]

12:36 I can't believe you fell for the old rubber band missile tactic! SMH, Steeeeeeeveee!

[@OddBawZ]

OMG YOU DID THE OUTRO SONG!

[@shinlucario]

One of the more famous ones that was lost in an accident was the 1952 Farnborough Airshow disaster when the prototype of the Sea Vixen the DH.110 broke up while performing a maneuver. Debris from the plane crashed into the crowed of spectators, killing 29 and injuring 60, at the time it was the deadliest airshow disaster in history till the Ramstein air show disaster in 1988.

[@bfletcher9678]

The sea vixen is unironically one of my favourites in sim. If it had drop tanks it really would be an awesome plane to just loiter in.

[@guaporeturns9472]

I think it’s absolutely beautiful

[@johnmaddox1712]

this actually makes jet tiers look fun

[@crazedfeel5775]

That thing is actually a good cas plane with its custom loadout !

[@bravotroopergaming9122]

Phly, you must apologize to this beautiful plane. The asymmetry is what makes it unique and beautiful. I personally love this plane as everyone should, but I manly love it for its unusual design and shape lol keep up the good work!!!! P.S. please play the American FW-190 A-8

[@akeverday7]

I like the War Thunder ASMR when he turns down the volume

[@thedude5449]

So fun fact, the cock pit is offset due to an engineering draft error that the manufacturer didn't question and put into production.

[@farmcat9873]

This thing actually rips it up in its BR range especially when at your own BR or get down tier its strong AF. The F-104 is pretty strong these days seeing how it faces Jets that cant even get close to its speed.

[@MrEsphoenix]

There was a prototype with nose mounted guns. Gaijin said they wouldn't add it because it never saw production. We now have the Yak 141 with "Assumed" weaponry if it had left the prototype stage, but that's just standard Gaijin double standards.

[@efethecaptain6]

It's ORGANIC, that's the new trend, cmon man keep up.

[@danywany9144]

the sea vixen was my first premium, and I love it.

[@SpriGgEx]

the canberra & the Buccanneer xD And then you have things like Vampire and Venom the total opposite ^^

[@Jaegertiger]

Sea Vixen operation timeframe... from 1959 thru 1974. It had a higher than average loss rate and was deemed to be too expensive to operate. Hence, its retirement.

[@Ben_Kimber]

Hey Phly, the Uncle Tom needs some love, as I don't think I've seen in on the channel yet. It would be great to see a video doing ground rb with the Mosquito using those rockets. Similar situation with the Red Angel rockets on the Wyvern (the fins fold out when fired now).

[@adamlinden5940]

Apparently red tops were supposed to be all aspect for supersonic targets or something like that

[@krisspradlin715]

It's room and visibility for carrier landings.... so you can see around the huge radar.

[@sarcasualindividual]

I've been using the Sea Vixen as a team mater support plane , where I identify a teammate woth 1-2 enemies on their tail and drop in from high altitude and get behind the pursuer(s) launch a red top and rocket my way back to space. Typically i. Wont get followed at 8.7 - 9.0 because of how fast the Vixen gains altitude.

[@immentallunstable111]

I literally grinded out most of british tech tree with this thing by just running from enemies and turning on their 6 when they break out of pursuit. Gotta say, it's a great plane but one has to be careful with red tops cause despite their huge explosive mass and blast radius, it doesnt always kill when hit. And shooting them at ranges greater than 1.8km is not advised, especially if you're chasing someone and you both go at > mach 0.9.

[@Rorywizz]

I did the same, they have pretty good Gs for it's br

[@immentallunstable111]

@@Rorywizz true, though not always enough.

[@squidwardo7074]

its a good grinder but you have to play it in a really boring way to do well

[@ColorFilmArchives]

Haven't been keeping up with your videos in quite a while, been subscribed for years but sort of fell off so to speak. Don't know why I ever left haha, like I remembered before, great stuff.

[@blackhawk47k56]

Phly i think we need osme more additions to the war thunder rule book..... and i do remember you talking about that for quite a bittttt good video nonetheless

[@_SBRacing]

Never thought I’d see War Thunder ASMR 😂