The "UGLY TRUTH" About Drawing PRETTY GIRLS Only

[@hollybrownvideos]

I think most artists have a preference in a body type- but the “pretty girls” thing often is a specific girl and also specific poses. Idk I think it wouldn’t be as much of a problem if I saw these girls at different angles, with backgrounds and props ect. It makes the girl less of a subject and more of a character. There is no personality in “girl” so just drawing that with nothing else seems kinda bleak.

[@dawrushesin]

i agree, its not the girls that's the problem but the impersonality of how they're drawn. why draw a person at all if you're going to draw them with the same amount of character as a bowl of fruit? it's objectification.

[@eloisenewman3814]

So true! That's why I appreciate Guweiz's art. Yeah it's still pretty girls but it's also story, and different poses and angles, and interesting backgrounds. I think that's what it takes to make a career drawing pretty girls; expanding on other skills alongside it.

[@Vizible21]

Sma does art in a nutshell

[@tappydani9378]

I feel this so bad sometimes on Instagram. Problem is, I worry I’d be guilty of this too. I wonder how you show “character” without something over-the-top a la Harley Quinn.

[@gregorycomey3281]

I'm annoyed how handsome men have way more variety when compared to beautiful women when portrayed by most artists. Like actual shape and body type...

[@luperdrgz]

Yeah There’s very little variety for how people draw pretty girls

[@Cellardoor_]

Yeah definitely. I know Michele didn't mean for this to be a socio-political topic but it kind of is. A lot of the pretty women that are drawn are viewed from the male gaze which comes from being raised in a patriarchal society. Beautiful women don't just look one way. They can be all shapes and sizes.

[@vicenteisaaclopezvaldez2450]

It's because men are factually more pretty than women. I'm kiddin, of course: I'm just very gay.

[@joannelee5574]

THIS FR!! I feel like with men you get your Miguel O’Haras and Peter b Parker’s, who have very different shapes and features but both are HUGELY popular, especially in fan art, for being attractive (just the most recent example to come to mind lol) But I feel like female characters just have such a narrower spectrum where they’re still considered attractive, and they tend to be extremely similar in facial structure and shape, which I just personally find lame considering (especially with animation and cartoons!!) that there’s SO MUCH ROOM for exaggeration and experimentation, they just tend to exaggerate the same features compared to male characters (ex. “Doe” eyes, small nose, similar face ratios, etc). Ik blizzard is an actually terrible company but Moira from OW was one of the most memorable (HELLA attractive imo lol) female characters in recent to me and I just love how refreshing she was in the genre

[@tappydani9378]

I feel it’s more a societal thing than an artist thing. The conversations among friends at school, among family at the restaurant, are where change starts. We are already making progress with convincing men to appreciate a wider variety of bodies and faces, but there’s still more work to be done!

[@sarcasmandfoxes]

I think what maybe doesn't help is that a lot of artist use pinterest for references and it seems to push certain aesthetics to you even without you interacting with those pins so then people end up drawing the same things over and over again that and the instagram algorithm pushes the "pretty person" art more than anything else

[@quit3118]

For me, I get alot of sonic or alt art-

[@adish1401]

Exactly! I have always noticed people around severely overusing references... Like, to a sick degree.

[@fryeonaga]

I always use pinterest for references, and it takes a bit of digging in order to get a reference that matches what im looking for. Usually its filled with aesthetic pretty girls, so i cant really find other body types or options unless i do a whole exploration just for a few good pins. Its pretty frustrating since pinterest has some really good stuff, but its hidden under lots of pins that dont seem to fit as a good reference for what im aiming for.

[@LilChuunosuke]

Completely agree. I use Pinterest for refs all the time. Even though I've started looking up candid photography for references (trying to improve at drawing more expressions, characters interacting with each other & their environment, etc) I will STILL get recommended a ton of generic pretty girls doing a neutral thousand yard stare directly into the camera

[@ShaiLai]

Pinterest is an algorithm, it'll show you what you want to see. Save more diverse pins and they show you more diverse pins. My Pinterest shows me girls with different features/aesthetics so maybe start digging a little

[@pythagaros7352]

This can also lead to same face syndrome. I find that doing quick scetches and exaggerating features helps to diversify the type of people I draw.

[@glint6070]

Everything you said was right (atleast I think so). The backlash is probably because people prefer pretty illustrations (in general), so as a kneejerk reaction they just reject the entire message without listening

[@mewTripled]

Ahh yep. It truly is a hot topic!

[@Aeiouaaaaaaaaa]

This is such good timing, I’ve been reflecting on this myself since drawing pretty things is a habit I’ve built up all my life - I’ve been working on growing past this for years now because it genuinely feels more authentic to me, but I still have a long way to go. Recently I set the artistic goal for myself to draw more honestly, rather than simply drawing beautifully. Thanks for bringing up the topic, this was a great video!

[@mewTripled]

Thanks, I'm glad it resonated in some way, and I hope you're able to achieve your goals! :)

[@sanashandholder]

coming from someone who was fixated on manhwas and webtoon art styles because of conventionally attractive characters, some people seem to get really defensive when valid points are voiced about the reality of drawing pretty girls. i think your videos are so insightful from on industry pov and i’m sorry some folks immediately project what they *think* you’re gonna say without even listening. this is a generalization but i’m just gonna say it- based on my experience, a lot of these defensive people come off as incels to me... they’re enraged by even the suggestion that diversifying one’s art beyond drawing generic pretty girls could benefit them because they twist it into the notion that people are “policing” their art. like c’mon dude, draw whatever you want, no one is holding you at gunpoint. i can enjoy lovely pretty girl artworks while simultaneously pondering how the lack of variety in the definition of pretty woman speaks to larger societal problems and sometimes artistic limitations. and tbh i do agree that artist’s aren’t obligated to worry about other people’s self-esteem if they’re exaggerating proportions since people online also need to be less impressionable. like you said, it’s nuanced!

[@サリエリ-q5g]

It's just that a lot of people actually !blame! artists for drawing only pretty girls. People who got offended probably didn't watch the video and assumed things

[@beccak8166]

I subbed. This was a very respectful way to send this message too: youre limiting yourself if you only draw pretty people. Its easy to make a perfect, perfectly symmetrical face. But its hard to make unique, even ugly features in your own style and make them look plausible and cohesive. If you look at the greats of ages past, you often find studies of "ugly" people that inform their anatomy and enhance their work. I think a lot of people feel called out by this one; a lot of us fall into the trap of drawing within our confort zone!

[@LunaArtGallery]

For people looking to grow their social media platforms or professional work, drawing the same "pretty girl or boy" face in the same poses, isn't really going to help you. The art work is lovely, but it's boring, making it more likely for people to dismiss you. "I've seen this a 100 times whats make THIS image so special?" It can suck to hear that as an artist, but it's a hard truth. Usually I find the most popular of artists are ones that are able to set themselves apart from the crowd, you can easily recognize their work. As for the professional side, being flexible aka draw in multiple styles, is a necessity, you MUST be diverse. If you want to keep drawing "pretty" people go ahead! But I encourage anyone to branch out into textures, animations, backgrounds, linework (etc) anyway to make your artwork more unique. Experimenting and learning is always a good thing.

[@pop_rox]

I LOVE this message because it's always so sad to see people limiting their artwork to just one face or look. There are so many different body shapes, nose shapes, eye shapes, hair textures, skin colors, hand poses, clothing styles-- just limiting yourself to "pretty girls" can limit your ability to create interesting characters and diverse stories that it's sad to think that some people are taking offense to this kind of message. Like guys come on, if you wanna draw pretty girls, that's fine! Michelle said it herself at the beginning of the video. Have fun! Do what you want! Explore your style! So many genres of media have profited off of pretty aesthetics (ex. Sailor Moon, Maison Ikkoku, Disney, etc) but also know that there's a whole world of styles to explore and there's more than one definition of "beautiful"

[@Erika-ce7ps]

oof! The beauty standards one hits…I’m half Filipino (and THANKFULLY I had/have a good support system) but I briefly was unhappy with how tan I was and even looked up ways to lighten my skin 😬 I’m sure there’s many reasons for it, but I’m sure the fact that the art styles I really loved at the time had all the characters with paper white skin…

[@sodakhanart]

Oh no! This makes me sad especially because i find Filipino people SO SO BEAUTIFUL!

[@zayndesign]

Was no one gonna mention just how gorgeous Michelle is rn??!!? Love the style and look, its not often talked about just how much work that can go into putting a video like this together and look amazing doing it. I especially liked the part at 8:20 - 9:20 , there was beautiful wording there and I definetly wrote it down myself for later. Experimenting and knowing well just how much your art skills can actually be applied in different areas of production would make you alot more hireable. I love drawing pretty girls as a default setting in my brain to warm up, but theres a whole world of possibilites that I often see artists close themselves off to trying to draw. Awesome videos as always.

[@adelinastaya]

As an artist, I started drawing largely only men. Yes, my "men" were generally quite feminine and if I showed my art to anyone, they'd think I was drawing a woman. That, and the fact early on in my art journey I had quite a bit of "same face syndrome". I had to figure out how to make my "men" actually look like men, and figure out a way to draw actual women. Generally that requires work with face shapes and right placement of face features. Nowadays it's instinctual to me. I just know I'm drawing a man, and even if my men still have a lot of feminine features, you can tell they're men. I hope so, at least.

[@sodakhanart]

Totally agree! Honestly, I recently stopped following and even started blocking artists who ONLY draw people who SOCIETY thinks is pretty.

[@Znerpznarpy]

i thought my style was boring and blank when i first joined the art comunity, and then i started making character desings, i realized how far i could go with a bit of study and practice. i discovered how to style my characters for chibis, matching various colors, different props etc. so, heres a tip: explore yourself! you can d way more than what you think you can. dont be scared to try.

[@Moonleii]

this video is really helpful and made me realize branching out is good! i mostly draw ocs and scenery but doing new things will help me improve :D

[@mewTripled]

I'm glad the video helped in any way! I hope you have fun in the process of learning too!

[@mismiserables]

I'm new to the digital art thing and I do only draw pretty girls. I feel like a big part of it is my skills aren't really at the level to draw other things. I want to draw characters with in scenes that tell a story, I want to draw more dark or gory stuff, but I always worry that I won't be good at it (and that people won't like it). I'm going to try to practice more and push myself out of my comfort zone. So I agree with what you said. I do think this will make the art I post (and don't post) more fulfilling for me.

[@Klynkha]

I’m fine with drawing pretty boys too.

[@hankhumble3552]

Don’t worry, the only habit I have is drawing ugly girls

[@SinShady.]

Most Twitter artist. Let’s all be honest.

[@housemouse4209]

Oh such things always bother me so annoyingly. It’s why I don’t engage at all with most popular KZbinr artists. I find it sad and very limiting, to me, such practices almost carry a claustrophobic feeling with them, as if there’s only this one type of person that’s allowed to be portrayed. Very well said, thank you for the video. :)

[@ChantelleArts]

I love that you touched on representation too, it's so important for artists to portray different body types and ethnicities 👏

[@willexcel]

"Some artists" - looking at you SamDoesArt.

[@brandondelgado7731]

I love looking into French animation and comics as well as Italian comic books for variety in styles. Spanish comics too

[@rainaamyliaart4111]

Btw thanks for the insight❤ as a viewer and an amateur artist I feel neutral about these things. For me whatever suits anyone's tastes and goals helps them concentrate on building their career, they can focus on that. The world is a huge place filled with all kinds of people and worldviews so it's no surprise to find conflicting opinions in the comment section. I appreciate the suggestion for branching out 😊 Keep up the good work 👍

[@pandapuffzee8255]

I have this problem, but with looking to new things I also find beautiful or lovely (landscapes or pets or subtle shades in fabrics atm) and try to add it to my art work.

[@Ace0fHeartzX3]

First and yes, this happens. Sam Does Arts, one of my inspirations in himself, because of a TLOU fanart he made, he has been getting a LOT of backlash. It really makes me feel upset, because not only Sam, but many other people are doing this. It’s upsetting, really.

[@SinShady.]

Wait so he’s been getting backlash for what exactly? Just drawing girls?

[@Cherabreena]

@@SinShady. He drew a Disney-fied version of the actress playing Ellie. People got upset because his Joel actually looks like the actor, while he completely omitted the appearance of the actress and instead chose to "prettify" her.

[@gregorycomey3281]

@@SinShady. His drawing of Ellie does not look like the actor that portrays her in the show, while the drawing of Joel does. Sam just has severe same face syndrome for girls and that's why I never cared much for his art despite how refined it can be. Kind of unfair how he's like the only guy getting criticized for a very common thing among artists, male or female.

[@HeyyyJude]

@@gregorycomey3281nobody should be getting criticized for drawing what they want with their own talent and time. If they ask for critic, sure but otherwise that shouldn’t be a thing

[@hel2727]

maybe a bit off-topic, but hello fellow ace

[@emanul4773]

Same-Face Syndrome Any% speedrun.

[@alekzi4032]

I know many artist who regrettably gets trapped into only drawing pretty girls, because they say they don't get the views and likes they rely on if they post male drawings. Me personally tho, I only draw pretty furry cat femboys. But I want to practice drawing more canines too.

[@BeRebornGtag]

That's worser💀

[@Leyichen-pe2wg]

"pretty furry cat femboys" That's music to my ears! I love drawing "femboys" too, or just young males that are more feminine.

[@adammaguire5596]

Your videos are incredible! Lots of information and very well put together, thank you.

[@snowfoxxie]

Agh I’m sick of seeing girls that look like Disney/3D animated characters doing the same thing and only the face. Makes me scroll past no thanks-I love characters or characters with interest.

[@paluxyl.8682]

Many years ago I have train almost 2 years long at least 2 hours daily to draw many different things like humans , animals , creatures , objects and backgrounds. Now I know what I like to draw and what I totally dislike ..... I don't really like to draw brackgrounds , objects , plants , machines , male superheros , ugly creatures , horror stuff , old people , children , too cartoony characters , chubby people , avarage looking people or dark sceneries. I get easy bored if I draw animals , many european funny looking comic characters (Asterix , Tintin , Smurfs , Werner , Gaston) , some manga styles like Studio Ghibli , faces with too many expressions , good looking males , diverse looking characters. I think everybody should draw the things that he or she likes the most ....... even if this means that some things would not exist. I doubt that someone would make videos about : - The "UGLY TRUTH" About Making Piano Music Only - The "UGLY TRUTH" About Making Rap Music Only - The "UGLY TRUTH" About Making Electronic Dance Music Only - The "UGLY TRUTH" About Making Heavy Metal Music Only - The "UGLY TRUTH" About Making Reggae Music Only Art should be enjoyable to do for the artists and not be forced by the job or the society.

[@RainbowChips91]

This is why I need art school. Because I only know how to draw some things. I need to learn how to draw out of my comfort zone. Thanks for the advice. 😊

[@shakenobu]

Thx a bunch, really needed to hear this at the moment

[@Waspinmymind]

I also find that a lot of backlash is from people who enjoy the status quo’s and find thinking outside of it or what it promotes to make them uncomfortable. A lot of pretty girl drawings have one body type and pointing that out will make people mad. Because they never considered it before and now they feel bad. Of course none of them will bother to question themselves on why.

[@tamaramarieida]

I am very much so noticing this in my self - I always liked to try lots of different styles of "pretty girls" but definetly can feel how limited I am in drawing men, different features, and even dynamic poses. Really wonderful video !! Love the idea of a shit book (;

[@queenofpents3442]

True. Drawing only pretty characters limits your ability to really evolve as an artist. You get stuck in same face syndrome too. Drawing charcaters in a variety of appearances is actually extremely fun.

[@mentally_neglectful]

The first person that came to my mind was Samdoesart lol

[@jbkhan1135]

This definitely is a thing. I would also add that I think this crosses the gamut though and is more about drawing "pretty people" in general. There's also a bias toward drawing men as hugely muscular and heroic; it's rare to see more "normal" men in concept art as well. I definitely agree with you though on your points, not contradicting your video at all, just wanted to add that as something people should be aware of.

[@davidzaslavsky2076]

For me personally I am currently working on a game projects with five characters (all male). So while in terms of people it is dudes but for the project I had to get better at making backgrounds and items.

[@MajeedaArt]

I never thought of beauty standards while drawing as a child nor adult I never compared myself to my fantasy portraits I simply wanted to escape my reality and have fun, one of my very first drawings as a child happened to be female as I naturally gravitatd towards drawing females I couldn't help what my brain wanted to draw at that age, but I realized over time if I want my work to be marketable and sell I'll have to switch things up, aside from this my human anatomy skills are rough and all the technical aspects of improving creative anatomy skills began to give me anxiety hence I'd over think every detail and I started avoiding drawing all together therefore I switched my style as I don't have as many years to spare on hyper focusing on technicalities. I have to be able to produce content I need to create work that I may be able to sell one day soon but for me drawing pretty girls was never about promoting unrealistic beauty standards or comparing my own appearance to a made up peice of art I simply enjoyed drawing what I drew, I grew up watching Sailor Moon and Studio Ghibli and Disney I also grew up watching Hanna-Barbera Cartoons etc and I wanted to create similar characters, but now that I'm an adult I realize we really have to have our stuff together to be taken seriously especially with A.I. on our heels. I don't think I'll make it in terms of working for a big art studio but I might be able to earn an income via creating my own art products and growing my online presence, though I have to be honest things haven't been going great thus far and I'm becoming less optimistic about my odds in this field but who knows I might be able to turn things around with a bit more time ☮️🎨❤

[@AphroditesCreativeChronicles]

I agree completely! Thank you!

[@sketchinsquad]

Yea u always gotta draw out of ur comfort zones good video

[@minteelemon1514]

May I ask? Since you mentioned about getting a job in the animation industry and being a storyboard artist, do you have any advice on how to start a portfolio for that specific field? And what to do and not to do with you portfolio? Thank you XD

[@flam_central]

As an artist I don’t draw only pretty girls. Because nothing I make is pretty :,)

[@usubenidango]

The "amplifies beauty standards" part is SO TRUE tbh so many times i've felt insecure about myself when comparing myself to these perfect genshin impact girls i see everywhere online... and while i know it's not really the artist's fault, it really made me reflect how my work may have an effect on others.

[@JoJoboiWav]

If you compare yourself to fictional characters made to be unarguably beautiful I don't think the problem is the characters

[@wheretao6960]

​@@JoJoboiWav facts... not everything has to be photorealistic in terms of portrayal

[@JoJoboiWav]

@@wheretao6960 Comparing himself to characters only works in the context of working out to an extent

[@wheretao6960]

@@JoJoboiWav I can agree to an extent, but still gotta keep in mind the unrealistic bits where there are 14 yr old anime boys looking roided n jacked asf like bro is supposed to be doing his algebra homework-

[@snubnosedmonke]

are you really comparing yourself to anime girls? pixels? 😭

[@luguidubiela1654]

I love that I don't have to watch your videos with 2x the speed because you already talk in a reasonably fast faced manner lol

[@pythagaros7352]

Does anyone else see the girls in the first picture as Sam, Alex and Clover?😅

[@eroane84]

Aaahhhhh❤❤❤❤ Thanks Mew for this topic as my artstyle needs for me to draw all sorts of body types and guys in my artstyles too!!!😊❤❤❤❤❤❤ I ❤❤❤❤ your artstyle too!!😊❤❤❤

[@peterxyz3541]

It is! Drawing or (cosplay) only pretty people is a crutch

[@pyeitme508]

Yep 👍

[@HeyyyJude]

Some of these critics are strange and putting the burden of hundreds of thousands of people’s own self-worth on an artist and their hobby?? These people have friends, family, a life outside of someone having fun drawing characters. The better advice would be to tell those individuals to seek help within their circle or even professionals that will give them better advice

[@fuzzydragons]

Drawing the same thing over and over again can get boring, and there is so much variation in people, you need to practice all kinds of shapes and ethnicities

[@SUTAZZZ]

This is so true

[@genehen6495]

The main issue with drawing only pretty girls/guys is that I just dont think they are pretty. They aren't attractive, they aren't cute, they aren't nice to look or interesting - if anything at all I find them off-putting and uncanny. They don't look like people and the things they have that resemble people aren't any part of humanity I have any interest in. Ultimately, though - i don't give a shit WHAT people draw or find interesting. If more people genuinely like the "pretty" super smooth feminine guys/girls then its a good thing its so popular, I guess. I just kinda have doubts thats the case, given how diverse human interests are and how frequently what being 'pretty' means changes in any given culture. I kinda think people just like ''pretty'' stuff because they are expected too rather than exploring what REALLY makes them tick... ...like slightly older men with scruffy beards, whose crows-feet next to their eyes smile just as obviously as their mouths do. Maybe they've gotten a little roughed in their life, maybe they care about other things more deeply than their appearance, maybe they have learned not to care about what other people think - but they are genuine and open and do their best to make the most of anything life throws at them now. They've been humbled by too many things to care about pride and just want to enjoy having people around for the time they have left. I'd take 100 of those over another smooth-faced high school boy with effortlessly good makeup. But thats just me. I'd KILL for more art that emits that sort of vibe, but overall I want artists to draw what makes THEM happiest. Drawing things you dont care about makes the artwork feel off to everyone else, too.

[@HoneyPupcakes]

i was honestly hoping youd talk about this more in-depth bc this is an issue im especially passionate about as someone who doesnt see much representation for myself in media. i think its less of an idea of drawing "pretty" girls as it is drawing conventionally attractive ones. one glaring example of this is the fact that artists like this rarely, if ever, draw fat characters when i've seen SO MANY beautiful fat women out there! its the lack of variety more than the fact that everyone is pretty. you can make people pretty while still making them look distinctive from each other!!!

[@cybersekkin]

I think you have a better nuanced position this time. I still think the charge is too steeped against fantasy and escape that many draw pretty women for. It reminds me of this quote, "What class of men would you expect to be most pre-occupied with, and most hostile to, the idea of escape? and gave the obvious answer: jailers." C.S. Lewis recalling a conversation he had with J.R.R. Tolkien. I think the basic premise is great though, be careful not to get stuck in drawing only one thing and draw many things. It just hits me as too focused against drawing pretty women as an unnecessary point and you just stick to the "draw many things, in many ways" point and avoid being ensnared in all this.

[@williammclean6594]

Aka Ross draws.That's all he draws. I don't know why he's so popular. I think all his art looks boring. All the girls that he draws like the same as well

[@234edog]

I just want to draw more cute guys because I feel drawing cute girls is a cliché now. No hate on those who do stick to that path. but for me personally, I want to challenge myself by drawings uncommon subject matters (that and the visual art sphere for cute boys is lacking). It's insane how few female male pinup artist exist while the rest slave away, drawing mediocre girl standing in a void art. If you want to stick to drawing girls, try to change things up at least. do different presentations, styles, compositions. do something.

[@Snaaaaap]

I don't know about "pretty" girls. It's a drawing, so they'll always end up being some level of pretty, lacking the imperfections of real life unless you are going for photo realism. But if you are talking about same face, same body shape and proportions, then I agree. But when it comes to stylized stuff I don't think you have to necessarily make drawings that reflect people in real life. That just seems to be a thing with certain companies trying to raise their esg scores. Most average people don't look for that or connect with a character's appearance, but their personality and what they stand for. Most characters historically are drawn with an ideal to inspire others to be their best selves. How many people decided to get in shape because of son goku from Dragon ball? So yeah, diversifying your skills is good, but unless you are trying to get hired as a professional for a team or project you can draw what you want and just have a portfolio on the side showing your full range of ability. I mean, sure I'd like to be able to draw with the range of say miyazaki of studio ghibli films. I'd say that's my ideal. It really does come down to the genre, context and what the story is about that will determine the characters you will make. At the end of the day the story you're trying to tell matters most. If the story is genuine it will resonate with the audience no matter what it looks like. Ex: before one piece got popular in the West most arguments was that it was "ugly" with the character designs, but once people actually read it and get into the story that doesn't bother them anymore or they grow to genuinely like them because of their characterisation for the most part.

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[@artistaladesen]

Well drawing pretty girls is the most trending art thing, and it is searched by people. So most of us won t give up drawing these girls, in the end every drawing and artist is different and has an unique way of drawing. plus, it s so relaxing drawing girls

[@user-4xislb]

Even artists hate fugly people? Like everybody else? It's so over for me bro.

[@lyxthen]

Yeah the issue is that the definition of pretty girl is too limited. All girls are pretty. Big W for nature. W. Is for women. I know it sounds like a joke but genuinely. I love guys too ofc as a guy myself I think we are awesome. But also women. Idk maybe I think all humans are beautiful. That'd be poetic even.

[@briansydnor4331]

Thanks so much for the video. IMHO, the key to things as potentially problematic as exploiting implicit or explicit gender norms in our art (especially as a crutch) is being clear on WHAT we're doing, and WHY we're doing it. This practice of...[sigh😑]...thinking...is sadly not the norm in our community. It's also not CURRENTLY the norm with A.I. image generators. Go figure. So if we're trying to buy ourselves a few more years, we could maybe put more thought into our art than the PrettyGurlVomitter9000...

[@martynaspyra9]

Maybe the reason that many people missed the point of your video was the contradictory statements included in it. If someone is hurting their own career by only sticking to one specific subject and style of their art, then hating them surely isn't the right emotion here? In the previous video, you also mentioned how you hate artists who bash other artists for their drawing skills. It's confusing how then you proceed to bashing other artists for their thematic choices (regardless of how they affect their career and personal development)

[@mewTripled]

I'm not sure where I came off as "bashing people" through the tone of my video. My channel in general discusses pursuing an art career, especially for those who are art students who are serious about landing a professional gig in the art, animation, and comic industries. I've already mentioned that there is nothing wrong with choosing to draw pretty girls if that's what you prefer to do. I even listed the pro's of drawing pretty girls from 1:54 -3:30, as I myself have once been in the place where I only drew pretty girls. However, as somebody who is in various art industries and have seen how people select candidates for potential roles, I'm just providing my knowledge of what can potentially limit people from landing on their goals, if pursuing an art career / having art career options is what they want. I don't know how many times I have to reiterate that there is nothing wrong with drawing pretty girls as a hobby or even for a career if you are able to find one that allows that. However, the truth is not everyone will be able to land a job drawing pretty girls only, and I think it's fair to let people know that truth so they can know what to do to move forward and do what is best for their art career.

[@martynaspyra9]

@@mewTripled Yes, but that's where the contradiction creeps in - the new video is clearly set in a different tone of a caring and considerate advice (which is the content I follow you for!). However, the previous entry was enveloped in the list of things that you think are wrong with the art community. And with nearly all of them being great and extremely valid points, like calling out immature behaviours, etc. suddenly hating someone's personal *harmless* art choices was the odd one. I hope you can see my point.

[@mewTripled]

@@martynaspyra9 Thanks for sharing your point, I can see where you are coming from. I apologize if my previous video came off as "hateful," as I can see how the title in itself makes it come off that way. To clarify though, I do not hate someone's choice of drawing pretty girls only. It's all about the intent behind it. If you are able to pursue your goals and are happy doing so, I'm happy for you! However, I can also see when an artist wants to pursue something else like becoming a storyboard artist, but their habits from drawing pretty girls ONLY could be a hurdle in the process. Some art students may not see it as a hurdle, and remain frustrated as to why they can't land that storyboard role (or any other career). That entire process can be frustrating as an artist trying to make a living, and that is just why I personally have a distaste to drawing pretty girls only. I am sure all artists have things they hate, love, like, dislike about certain things in the world of art, and those are just mine. I feel the way I shared that opinion was able to balance both my honesty while also providing help and advice for those who do feel like that is an obstacle in their career that they need to tackle. I hope that makes sense!

[@peachesandcream22]

MewTripled wasn't the only one pro who talked about "pretty girl syndrome" in art communities. Mohammed Agbadi also discussed this topic, much earlier than Michelle. She wasn't bashing someone, as an artist myself, I personally see "pretty girl syndrome" as a problem. Many beginner artists try to get away from this. It's a fact the most of beginners often stick to "pretty girl syndrome" cause pretty anime/videogame girls are popular on such sites like Instagram and Tiktok. It's literally the ONLY way you can get popularity as an artist on such sites (yeah, algorithms suck). When we discuss this problem, we don't put the fault on artists cause they're actually the victims in this situation. The fault is always on stupid algorithms and audience which is addicted to anime girls and PRESSURES artist to always draw mainstream. I want to draw a lot of things but sometimes, I feel like I'm FORCED to draw pretty girls, I'm not against them, but I just don't want to draw only them.

[@deleted_handle]

I only draw pretty guys

[@weasel4454]

i have a similar problem except it more like feminine men and it doesn’t help that i have terrible same face syndrome no matter what i do , i can barely draw body’s and mostly do busts when sketching but when i do i tend to give the men i draw typically feminine body’s with slim waist large-ish hips .it’s either that or extremely cartoony very boxy body’s and chibi like faces with no real defining features . learning to branch out is my goal , but my highschool art class doesn’t actually teach you new things it’s almost only making pieces and some art history which serves us no real purpose because we don’t study it we just write our opinion on the pieces . (sorry for the paragraph, most of this is just a rant about how lack lustre my art class is as i have learned more on my own and with youtube than in my art class .)

[@exileisland2675]

It's funny cus of course the weirdos who only do art to make fap material are gonna get triggered by a woman.

[@cathychen3173]

Drawing pretty girls at nauseam can box the artist in what their conception of a women has to look like in order to be drawn. "Ugly" features like a nose with a hump are often consciously or subconsciously deemed not beautiful enough to be represented. That's good for the conception of beauty for the artist nor their audience.

[@starlight-j956]

I love the idea of a shit book ☺️💕

[@tsunami1707]

Can ypu have an art carrer only drawing animals? Can you specialize in being a creature artist? Because i cant draw people im trying to learn but its so hard.

[@PyraDraculea]

Absolutely, but probably not as a production artist in the animation or video game industry. I've definitely heard of people who made a living doing pet portraits or painting racehorses or stuff like that, and I know of a pottery shop that has a fairly big portion of their sales as decorative carved fish and whale plaques and bowls/mugs etc. painted with fish and whales. It will of course be a tougher career path and you'll have to be an entrepreneur and be good at marketing etc. to find that niche audience, but other people have done it.

[@scribblingjoe]

I draw ugly guys.

[@Kyleology]

People are allowed to draw whatever they want. If you don't like what they draw, look at other drawings.

[@ShabreaChandler]

That would be the common sense thing to do but clearly as you can see people lack common sense and just want to complain about everything it’s so annoying

[@pyeitme508]

Well what about dudes?😅

[@Jules_Pew]

What seriously doesn't help is a certain demographic who say that they will walk out of a life drawing class if the model is male.

[@JoJoboiWav]

beauty standards don't matter in art, you're just supposed to draw what you think would look fine, not what wouldn't hurt some mf's sensibility

[@aurerixa6379]

Fr 😂

[@misxa6344]

Draw whatever you want, but this is for people looking to work in the art industry. Not diversifying your skills will make it harder for you to land a job.

[@JoJoboiWav]

@@misxa6344 I know but If you end up drawing shit you don't like I would hardly see this as a dream job, just a chore among others

[@skullseeker3013]

P.S. Ill be honest , God like characters inspire me to loose weight, and be better me , I'm very fat person n I d9nt need to see fat ppl in games, cuz I already got me lol

[@cjadams9658]

Pretty girl artists are just as bland as hyper realist artists that drew women with some fluid on their face. It’s nice to look at but super lazy!

[@Zeldas_Stars]

I draw me and my friends Minecraft characters, one of my friends only makes "pretty girl" ocs , like he refuses to even make guy ocs (he refuses to make guy ocs and all his ocs are just hot women and thats it) . I have a really huge diversity of characters but i will say i draw guys a lot

[@shrippie-4214]

I can't help but laugh everytime she says pretty girls a bit repetitive not too good at writing lol I like drawing pretty girls low key my comfort zone although lately I've been drawing more and more modest and with different proportions/shapes, I've drawn like three or four guys in the month I'll draw some more dudes decent at it despite not practicing it

[@Chia_Mochia]

While I know this is specifically for people looking for work in the industry, I just want to add my two cents. You don't have to draw diversity if you don't want to. I used to beat myself up for this because people would say things like "oh, I wish art was more diverse/inclusive!", but I couldn't draw that type of stuff, and frankly, didn't want to. I would put myself in a box and not try out different lighting styles, color styles, body types, etc. Then I realized that I don't have to be diverse if I don't want to. Sure, it's nice to branch out and not draw the same thing once in a while, but I don't have to work towards it if I don't want to. I am now, though, since a thing i'm working on requires it, but it it's not always needed. So basically, don't beat yourself up for being diverse, and just have fun! I know the industry is different from everything and all, but I just wanted to put this out there. The industry shouldn't decide what you can and can't draw.

[@Araanor]

But but... they're pretty

[@CJ-uj6wt]

I'm actually the opposite. I'm bad at drawing pretty girls because I don't draw them that often.

[@danraz0rArtworks]

Basically just don't draw what you want but draw what people needs.

[@Uterr]

But come on, for real, you were talking about trying to drawing not exclusively pretty girls, but illustrated this vid with mostly pretty girls, and rest was pretty male/older characters. I did not got the point then.

[@Kelly-pr8lz]

6:02

[@wolfiewolf1794]

yeah but you know what lady: if you can draw pretty gurls; you can pretty much draw anything.

[@halcyon.x]

This actually isn’t the case for most artists. Even professionals have trouble with same-face syndrome (the pretty girl artstyle in this case). She’s trying to say if you don’t practice the skills, you won’t have them.

[@wolfiewolf1794]

@@halcyon.x yeah w.e. cool work halcyon

[@snowfoxxie]

Umm no. Very much not I’m afraid. You are only able to draw a single thing, and often only a face without realistic proportions or anything that resembles an actual face. I’ve seen pretty girl artists try and draw a realistic self portrait in my art class- they really struggle even though it’s “in theory” the same thing. I applaud them for trying to break their own mold and attend art school though! We all need to find ways to extend and challenge ourselves.

[@wolfiewolf1794]

@@snowfoxxie what r you talking about. you sound ill-informed.

[@ryanjones6827]

Um ok

[@sansnom5269]

Let's all draw ugly things. People will surely love it 😂😂😂😂 Don't worry, Karen, Tumblr has your back. They are working hard in drawing the worst character designs known to men. It's very ""'diverse""" 😂

[@mewTripled]

I just love how me wanting to have a conversation encouraging people to be capable of drawing anything defaults me to being a Karen x'DD

[@veronicalala300]

I mean if u want to make let's say a comic with a pretty girl protag, u will probably need to draw bg characters that look different- you could just have it all be pretty girls if u wanted but it doesn't hurt to be able to draw something different

[@sansnom5269]

@@veronicalala300 In the video, the definition given to "pretty girls" is very vague and, at the end, doesn't mean anything. It ignores that in certain genres everything,as a rule,must look pretty, young and handsome. So much to the point of glittering. It's a visual choice. It's like complaining that in a story about power levels everyone looks muscular. In visual arts, the more you conceive a point without any textual clue, the better you get at it. So yes, romance girls will all look pretty. That's the point.

[@LassieRoad]

Man why are you still here if you don’t like her content😭 It’s super clear that you haven’t watched the video at all, and judging by the past comments you’ve made, you’ve been going at this for a good few weeks (maybe months?), using the same insult because you cannot think of anything else to say. Get a life instead of commenting how she’s a “Karen” because she’s giving tips out for people who want it goddamnit

[@veronicalala300]

@@sansnom5269 its ok to focus on one type of subject, lots of great shoujo stuff out there or action series but the video addresses artists who want to work in the industry, and to do that ur opportunity will only increase if you have the skills to draw all kinds of people. She said there are people that get hired by game companies only to draw pretty girls and good for them but everyone won't get that chance

[@Vivid_pixcel]

I for many years wanted to draw but never got into it enough to get over the initial barrier to entry. Then, as I became more comfortable and understanding of my gender non-binarism, i started drawing pretty girls to express that. Because i'm too old to make significant gender changes, in my mind, and I dont want to half way it because I know how uncomfortable it makes some people. I know thats my own preprogrammed transphobia, but I live with that fear because my family instilled it in me. So my outlet for all things feminine became drawing pretty girls, And a wonderful outlet it ihas been! But as i've progressed the last few years i've gotten to the point where yes, i'd like to go professional with my art. I now face exactly some of the things you mention in this video- However, i feel uncomfortable drawing outside of that box because it has become a representation my femininity and I fear drawing something else will distort my self image. And, also, part of the way I wish to go pro actually poses another problem- I dont draw them pretty ENOUGH. I try and stay rougher and sketchier because I know i'm rough around the edges. I dont have the fine ability to render true beauty but I need that for some of my goals! I'm sorry if thats a bit of a wall- It was a bit of an emotional purge for me. I guess my point is yes, sometimes it is a crutch. But not always an art crutch. It is the only way for me to put beauty and prettiness out into the world. I wish i could myself, but i'm a realist. And the comfort that that comfort zone provides might be a healing space for some.

[@mzam0]

I think it's important to separate what we draw for the purpose of becoming professional and what we draw just for ourselves and our own satisfaction. If you want to make it your profession, I can't really think how you could do it drawing only pretty girls.. Would be very difficult, and living out of art is difficult enough. Also, I think there's no reason not to keep your femininity in your art even while drawing different topics 😊

[@babyblouie]

It’s never too late to transition/change gender expression! Bring gnc is not just a thing for youngsters, there are many older trans folk. There’s no such thing as an age where you can’t be yourself anymore

[@ww3196]

​​@@babyblouie Agreed! It's never too late for you to transition. And fuck other people and their discomfort. It's your life and your body, and I know people are very hostile towards trans and gnc folks lately, but you should do what makes you happy. And if you recognize that these ideas (that it's too late for you, and that "half-waying" it will make others uncomfortable) are just your internalized transphobia, then you should take the next step in unpacking the transphobe within you. I'd recommend finding or forming a community space of older trans/gnc folks! They're not commonly represented in queer spaces nowadays, but that doesn't mean they don't exist, or that they aren't present in queer spaces already. And I think a sense of community and kinship with people like you could help you feel seen and supported.

[@beccak8166]

This is a really great perspective and helped my understand you better! I will say though as an ugly woman: ugly women are feminine too. ❤

[@ki2348]

@samdoesarts @kooleen