The Ultimate Ancient Roman Iceberg Explained

[@ilovekenshi]

Legendary recommended pull

[@MSemiba423]

i need more thug hunter videos

[@Lyndiloo]

Considering this is nearly 4 hours long, it's shocking how many times you said "that's a story for another time" or "I don't have time to talk about all that in this video"... This must be what blue balls feels like.

[@idiottalkshistory]

LOL. If I really talked about everything as much as I wanted to this video would probably be upwards of 20 hours! Eventually though I will cover everything I talked about in more detail so stick around! :)

[@tomstutz2645]

No this is arguably worse!!

[@Yourmomma568]

If you want that, you could try the history of rome. However, I like these deeper looks at specific things. I'd like a series perhaps. Each of these topics could be their own video.

[@Kiszpanable]

Author of this video shouldnt be listened to. He commits many mistakes like saying alexander the great was greek in first seconds. Rediculous

[@tomstutz2645]

@@Kiszpanable alexander the great was a greek

[@TheEruditeCritic]

Falling asleep to music 🚫 Falling asleep to 4 hours video about Rome 👍 Incredible video man, keep it up!

[@CrisisMoon7]

Went to sleep, woke up with the video still playing Edit: I meant to say “nap”

[@fatstar111]

I'm goofing my head off on smack and it's just perfect I'm half listening and when I tune back in it's always something interesting

[@large1318]

@@fatstar111come on bro, get off that shit

[@mikerayzo1550]

Saame 😂😂😂

[@carlosrobertosatobermudez2643]

20​@@fatstar111

[@-nekaw3913]

Same

[@WorsteBrooike1900]

Man just casually drops the best rome video i have seen in a while.

[@williamroberts3719]

Take a shot every time he says “I can’t get into this too deep or the video will be too long”

[@relaxedsack1263]

Named my cat Cicero because Cicero is also my favorite Roman. Despite his arguably inglorious end. He was the model statemen,

[@idiottalkshistory]

Cicero has always been my favorite Roman! Glad to know I'm not alone!

[@jacko9293]

Marcus Aurelius is my goat. Cicero is close second.

[@Cwilley0624]

My favorite Roman is Julius Caesar and he wanted Cicero’s respect so badly and was once moved to tears by Cicero and changed his mind about recalling an exile

[@bluebum7408]

Getting a cane Corso and calling him Caeser

[@stevenpartin9208]

Lucius Marcius Septimius

[@JannekeBruines]

While I am painting my kitchen green you are telling me all about Rome. Thank you for this awesome video 😊😊

[@postholer]

Watch out, don't get distracted. Might end up with late 2nd pompeian style walls instead XD

[@calvincoolidge5943]

I was surprised that the 12 tables were so low. In Poland, we learn about it in the first year of high school.

[@idiottalkshistory]

Interestingly, I didn't hear about the 12 Tables until college!

[@tlip3480]

Pullo, back in formation!

[@jamesthepatriot6213]

Best show ever!!

[@Mofi357]

13!!!!

[@kieran596]

THIRTEENTH

[@TaeSunWoo]

How Titus Pullo ended the Roman Republic-type beat

[@haydenwhite6882]

Bro really thought he could slip George Washington in with Caesar and Alexander and we wouldn’t notice 💀 Washington is nothing compared to those two

[@sunisshiningiceisslippery]

Washington beat an empire with a bunch of farmers you kumquat

[@thiago292]

There's more to a great general than winning battles. George Washington kept his army together for years in what seemed to be an unwinnable war, it's something that most generals in history wouldn't be able to do, not even Alexander the Great who, by the end of his campaigns, was hated by his own army despite winning every single battle.

[@JesusSalomon-q2x]

There’s a reason why the old adage “live long enough to see yourself become the villain” is so popular. Washington quit while he was ahead, refusing to take on the role of king when offered, and refusing to run for reelection after two terms. He was a good man for this reason, no doubt, but Alexander the Great and Julius Caesar were men who were in power far far longer than George was and their legacies have withstood the test of centuries. Im not saying George wasn’t an admirable man, but if we’re comparing Apples to Apples, only time will tell if Washington will be remembered as Caesar and Alexander are remembered thousands of years later. I personally don’t put them in the same boat. Julius Caesar particularly left a legacy that will likely in some way shape or form last as long as humanity does. Caesar (whom I’m most familiar with) quite literally became the most powerful man in Rome both politically and militaristically. Was he hated by the Senate? Towards the end yes, he was killed by them, but the people loved him so much that when the senate tried to strut around like heroes for killing Caesar a bloody civil war broke out.

[@thiago292]

@JesusSalomon-q2x not to be that guy, but George Washington actually spent more time leading America than Caesar did Rome. From Caesar's election to Consul in 59 B.C to his death in 44 B.C he spent 15 years in power (I'm including his time leading the troops in Gaul) From George Washington's appointment as Commander in Chief of the Continental Army in 1775 to the end of his presidency in 1797, he spent 22 years in power. Not included in this: Caesar term as Aedile and Praetor (which would add 2 years to his "power") and George Washington time as a Virginia representative (which would add almost 2 more decades to his "power") Edit: this is also longer than Alexander the Great was in power. His reign only lasted 13 years, believe it or not.

[@joangordoneieio]

Nice! I think about Rome way too often. TY for the sources! Subbed.

[@KingKendrickTheGod233]

Same except instead of rome it’s Kendrick Lamar

[@pecare9595]

This is actually an amazing video! You just earned a new subscriber

[@CALISUPERSPORT]

Thank you for this, it was a great way of introducing me to a number of highlights and stories from Rome's history that I'd never heard of. I quite like how it switches around between time periods as well.

[@SeeingBackward]

22:50 I've always found the explanation that 'foreign languages sounded like gibberish' is the origin of barbaroi or barbarophonoi to be deeply unsatisfying, but I feel like there is a more logical possibility. For instance, the traditional explanation does not explain why 'bar' is the syllable used to represent gibberish. But it is a well-known phenomenon that as civilizations urbanized, people started introducing themselves using the pattern of 'name from place' or 'name job' or even 'name, job of place', etc. More nomadic civilizations have tended to be more likely to use the naming format 'name, child of name, child of name, child of name, ....' Given the groups the name was applied to, especially opposite the direction opposite Rome, one could imagine how it seemed to the Greeks that every time they met a man from the eastern end of the Mediterranean that he introduced himself as 'name, bar name, bar name, bar name, bar...' and they'd start to the nomadic middle-easterners as "those bar-bar people"

[@sabbytheslothcat6663]

Instantly subscribed when I saw your sources section in the description!🔥🥵💕

[@bobbyokeefe4285]

I'm disappointed you didn't include the "Jesus was Caesar" theory of Francesco Carotta,maybe you are not aware of it?If not,hey it could be an idea for a full in depth video for some other time.

[@idiottalkshistory]

Wow I have never heard of that. I can tell I'm about to go down a rabbit hole!

[@a51raider]

Theory is not based in reality that’s why

[@juelzsantana1075]

that sound wayyy to absurd to be included in this iceberg. people want to learn real information, not some weird niche theories

[@DonnyKirkMusic]

@@juelzsantana1075 I don't mean to disagree, I just feel like the idea of the iceberg is also to add fringe theories to the bottom of the iceberg, but things kind of got lost along the way so now the bottom of the iceberg is not all "this game is personalized" or "X event never really happened" type of made-up conjecture.

[@a.nobodys.nobody]

​@@juelzsantana1075.... you don't understand what an iceberg is in this context. Absolutely that is something that would be well-suited for the bottom of an ancient rome iceberg.

[@noteniceu]

Good ole 4 hour lecture in the depths of KZbin. Thank you good sir.

[@Kr55991]

Wtf I was watching Naruto theories and woke up here 😂shi fire tho 🔥

[@Asherrr-q4p]

Real I was watching some videos about Naruto filler and woke up to this

[@magustacrae]

Great job on this video! Thoroughly enjoyed it 😉👊

[@marvelfannumber1]

15:42 I don't know how it would be hard to argue against that claim when Rome, far from "never returning" to the possession of the emperors, was returned only like 60 years later, and then the empire held the city again for another 219 years (about the same timespan as the time between Napoleon and today).

[@idiottalkshistory]

Fair point about the 60 years later thing, the Byzantines did come into possession of it around 535 after the Gothic War. I should have noted that. But after the Lombard invasion of Italy in 569 it is seriously hard to argue that the Byzantines controlled anything in the city. Nominally they held sovereignty over the area but practically it was controlled via a combination of the Pope, the Franks, the Lombards, and the Byzantines on the side. But fair point I really should have noted that!

[@marvelfannumber1]

@@idiottalkshistory What makes you say that? The Popes still required imperial approval after being elected up to Pope Benedict II in 684. The Exarch of Ravenna arrested the Pope on numerous occasions and dictated foreign policy against the Lombards. Not to mention that Constans II straight up visited Rome in 663, and moved the capital to Sicily during his reign. I think it's pretty hard to argue the empire did not have control of Rome, when the emperor was able to visit.

[@idiottalkshistory]

Fair point. This isn't my main area of focus so I will definitely defer you to as it seems you have a much better grasp on the situation than I do!

[@LlamaArmy]

Thanks for the video and how long it was it's perfect for listening to while at work

[@DanA-n1w8t]

Top quality work bud. Thanks

[@cutsqwishsqwish3724]

Great video thanks for all your work 😁

[@MeanderingSlacker]

How did Rome fall? Next Topic: Sacred Chickens Me: How did Rome not fall sooner

[@BrainDamageComedy]

nice one. thanks for the vid. really enjoyed it, you've made this super interesting.

[@mikexstad1121]

Loved it. Subbed.

[@Michael-Douglas]

The term "Imperator" in ancient Rome did not mean "emperor" in the way we understand it in modern English. Instead, it referred specifically to the head of the army, similar to what we would call a "commander-in-chief" today. Augustus, the first Roman emperor, preferred to use the term "Princeps" to describe himself, which means "first citizen" or "leading citizen." Over time, later Romans began to use his name, "Augustus," as the title for what we now consider an emperor.

[@nameunknown007]

Commander in chief, first citizen, leading citizen all are telling me there’s no one above him, so that’s equal to emperor? Unless he wasn’t ruling, in which case he cannot be first citizen?

[@zanlooney343]

5L of wine? Sounds like a good ol' Australian Goon Bag.

[@randyschulte1475]

Goon bag???????

[@pointfrogg]

A WHAT?!

[@hannahbethohman]

​@randyschulte1475 ,be glad you don't know what a goon bag is

[@oioioioi992]

😂

[@derealization_]

WHEEL! OF! GOON!

[@Carry-f2j]

Love the long format stuff

[@fleedoop7404]

I absolutely love your videos, dude. Your voice is very soothing to listen to, Your style of writing is informative yet easily digestible and your knowledge of my favourite period of history is deep and dense. Finding this channel was like finding a diamond. And I can't wait till you blow up in popularity. I would usually agree that going deeper into topics is better than the surface level. Initially when these videos came out. I didn't like the separated iceberg stuff yet. Now all the videos are collated into a 4 hour video. Not only is it easier to sit through- It feels like the topics are interconnected. Bravo dude once again can't wait for the next one.

[@haroldkrolgor118]

i love this, keep it up!

[@MS-gl1iw]

Pliny’s story about Scipio Africanus reminds me of the story of George Washington stopping a mutiny just by his presence.

[@helpyourcattodrive]

Amazing … listened to over and over.

[@xcxralpinkx-mt2hg]

using berber for amazigh people right after explaining that it's a slur is diabolical i loved the video. keep up the good work.

[@nevernerevarine8071]

Great video!

[@lomiification]

im just hoping at some point theres a "pronunciations" part of the iceberg, at which the modern soft latin Cs get replaced by the roman hard ks, for kikero, dakia, kaiser, etc instead of sissero, dashia, sea-sar etc, in the voiceover

[@alittleofeverything4190]

Damn, who's in early? This channel is going to be big one day.

[@JaManHonderd]

Woke up 30 mins into this video after sleeping, now i am watching the whole thing. Warra recommendation

[@gustavspuke6463]

Excited to watch

[@austinhogan1299]

Looking forward to the Cicero video!

[@npickle54]

Very good video

[@ryanrich6734]

Loved the video, here's one for the algorhythm

[@malahamavet]

as a romanian is simply impossible to accept the ottomans as the succesaors of Rome. My entire country was concieved whith the common ties to the romans, while people seacked independence from the ottomans. I have nothing against modern turks, its juat that as someone from the balkans i cant condone the ottoman empire, which i see as an invader, not diferent than the austrian and russian empires who also interviened in my lands history. I wouldnt say the state of romania is a roman empire, but i can say that we have more motives to call ourselves romans or descentants of romans than the germans or turks or russians, which in my perspective were large empires who just wanted to pose as romans

[@flamingarrow7]

Great video

[@braixy642]

We have a saying here which states that if you're deeply fascinated by historic ages like for example the medieval ages or ancient rome, then that's because you lived in it during a previous life.

[@kennethschick4304]

1:15:30 ULM MENTIONED!!!

[@Farticle]

Really great video. Only thing I didn’t know was the Palmyrene Empire. Probably because reading about the crisis of the 3rd century and after just makes me depressed.

[@markstreeter4419]

Who the other person who watched to the end with me ??? Great vid btw 👍

[@garycunningham2600]

Went to sleep. In my dream in Ancient Rome I pulled out my phone bc it wouldn’t stop talking and then things took a turn south.

[@tokevarvaspolvi8999]

Take a shot every time you hear "we will likely never know" or "that's a story for another time" or something to that effect. Report back.

[@weaselhack]

feeling a bit sus about this one. gonna bump Cost of Glory Anabasis tonight i think. Shout out Sertorius, shout out Sulla, and huge props to my man Pullo!

[@Curlyhowardfan]

Interesting how I found this video when it already had 476 views.

[@Mtioo1]

Short videos are always nice 👍

[@Chichimoco420]

Very cool, man

[@fufutul3258]

Rare KZbin recommendation W

[@nogoodhandlesavailable]

I have a hard time taking the term BCE seriously. I have to remind myself what it means no matter how much I hear it.

[@murrloc1859]

I grew up in Mexico , Puebla . It was a really small village , we played matutena and zapatito azul , canicas which games with marbles and stones some idk the real names but they’re Roman games which idk how that small village which is basically a dessert end up with those games

[@zo9238]

The Spanish most likely as an extension of sorts of Rome

[@Historicalbattle100]

good job!

[@pinkpanther4291]

This video is a banger

[@Luzeru362]

Finnaly peak content

[@KingKendrickTheGod233]

Kendrick Lamar is peak

[@ancientgirl-999]

the piano in the background reminds me of my beautiful bf

[@Archived_Rem]

The final ending fcked me up because your right,,,,

[@BiskitBaron1921]

Rare KZbin W, this video recommended.

[@ledyamuche6721]

your voice kind of sounds like honest

[@billygoods22]

Underrated Roman history moment: When Livy rizzed up Augustus Baby Gronkus

[@TaeSunWoo]

11:11 no one and I mean no one called it that back then. Don’t fall for the Germanic propaganda. Eastern Roman Empire or if you wanna get technical, medieval Roman Empire since the west was busy being either fragmented af or failing successfully as the Holy Western Roman Empire Great vid btw though, I feel like I’m the rare mad lass that wishes this 4 hour vid was like a part 1😂 another 4 hour one is coming later 15:51 Justinian and Belisarius: “bruh.” 52:06 ok, I get what others are saying. It gets old after awhile, just be like “I’ll deep dive this subject later” or something 😂 1:54:04 brother. It’s like every week at this point a power that be, celebrity or KZbinr gets outted as a pdf.file 1:54:43 okay, you saved some face there

[@KingKendrickTheGod233]

Kendrick Lamar is a rapper

[@elihyland4781]

2:54:47 "arms have been taken beyond the shores of Hibernia"-Juvenal what an achhhhhhhingly beautiful phrase im so happy i watched 🤘

[@honestlydontknowwhatimdoin8405]

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[@littleqb]

45:45 idk I like the fact the greatest nation came from the idea of a shewolf to take pity on the infants. That's a crazy thought ain't it!

[@alfredcommentary]

"Idiot Talks History" *is extremely not an Idiot*

[@josephaurelius5567]

Scipio Africanus is the goat, Hannibal would have made short work of Caesar if he faced Hannibal at the same age, maybe any age. Him and Fabian single handedly saved Rome

[@kwando472]

This man said "I can't go to deep into this" more than emperors have been killed.

[@alessandrorossi1294]

The constant use of “B.C.E.” instead of “B.C.” woke me up

[@roughrambo1000000]

I got this from my recommendations.... I think Spotify is sharing my listen history again because I literally listened to the entirety of Mike Duncan's The Fall of Rome

[@Hallowedplaylist]

This video is always here when i wake up

[@pantognoostees]

Could you add a jingle to your videos? It'll do you wonders

[@elizabarry4]

Ahh yes, pupianus. My old friend from Latin class

[@Browncheeze]

Thank you KZbin algorithm Now I can eat 🙏

[@ThePSaco]

Whats the background tune in 32:10?

[@orfeas_chr]

Started watching to fall asleep stayed up because it was interesting 😭

[@KingKendrickTheGod233]

Kendrick lamar

[@nathan584]

Woke up to this at 5am

[@Iowan3-0]

9:10 Looks like the Greeks forgot to copyright their religion lol.

[@jacksonhobbs2303]

At ~6:10 you say 509bce but the video displays 590bce

[@michaelhawkins7701]

When I hear the name lucertia I think of assassin's creed brotherhood is it the same lucertia

[@conrad9557]

I watched this till the end

[@countdowntorevolution9986]

why tf has everyone suddenly started calling consuls, "consoles"???

[@idiottalkshistory]

To be 100 percent honest with you, that is how I've always said it and have always heard it pronounced. Maybe that's because I'm from the south? I don't know! How do you say it?

[@atillanandorfuri3343]

I belive the proper academic pronounciation goes something like *HE WAS A CONSUL OF ROME!*

[@tiredidealist]

"The East was mostly Greek, but they were still Roman." "The HRE was German, so it wasn't really Roman." "Also, conquest triumphs most things." Lmfao

[@sweetreamer5101]

I leave this comment to please the great god Algo. May his blessings be upon your channel.

[@carterghill]

If the Eastern Roman Empire can still be Roman even though it's culturally Greek, then the HRE can still be Roman even though it's Germanic.

[@ElainaMeade]

Well one was an actual continuation the other was just a deal between a pope and Charlemagne

[@carterghill]

@@ElainaMeade Your point being?

[@59tothegrave4eva]

my brother in christ, the eastern roman empire was literally the same basic entity just with the lack of the west that augustus founded, does the western united states collapsing no longer make the eastern united states the united states? no the united states stays the united states

[@carterghill]

@@59tothegrave4eva You are passionately arguing against a point I didn't make. I'm obviously not saying the Eastern Roman Empire didn't exist or wasn't Roman. If anything, I implied the opposite.

[@59tothegrave4eva]

@@carterghill the hre was created like 400 years after the fall of the west, the eastern portion of the empire never fell, making it the same thing augustus founded, just culturally different, but they acknowledged their heritage, they WERE Rome, i dont believe a state created after the collapse is the roman empire

[@dragoncaos7098]

18:05 What do you mean by Caesar? Caesar had nothing to do with the 2nd Triumvirate, unless you call Octavian Caesar? Even then it was Anthony that wanted him dead, with Octavian not wishing for his death and Lepidus being indifferent. 27:30 I think this part is a bit too much in favor of the "saviour Pompey" - I'd say it's pretty likely that Pompey would become it's own quasi-king title (remember, Emperor (or rather Kaiser / Tzar) is only the name Caesar in a different language) -> reason being that Cicero, when writing about why he supported Pompey, said that it'd be better if the new Tyrant would atleast have the nominal support of the Senate. 52:30 Whilst having the title of "Restitutor Orbis" by 272, he thus far only reclaimed the east (where he also got the title "Restitutor Orientis"). He only reclaimed the west in 274 from Tetricus. Anyways, love the rest and will be back someday for Tiers 4-10

[@VainFriggus]

Woke up at 3am listening to a guy tell me about Roman army crossing the Atlas Mountains

[@trichogaster1183]

maybe the successor of the Roman Empire is the Latin we learned along the way

[@Kiszpanable]

Octavian most certainly was not named like this most of his life. Most of his life he was called Cezar Augustus. Octavian is name given by nowadays historians just not to confuse him with his uncle- Gaius Julius Caezar, from who he got his name

[@th3s3us_27]

so glad somebody loves julian the apostate as much as I do

[@devindevon]

Why has everything suddenly become an iceberg?

[@vamborool]

Where did you get your background music from, if I may ask?

[@CestSam]

HS reference with the music?

[@big_dad9465]

4:06 A point id like to make is (and please please PLEASE correct me if I am wrong) is that that at this point Cesar was becoming to much of an issue. And by making him Pontifex maximus it barred him from being eligible for the position of consol. But indoing so gave Cesar the pier to declare which days were considered sacred. I.E. allowing him to kind of rig when votes would and would not happpen. Again this is a generally uneducated persons understanding. I would love to know more.

[@cornyhorsecornhorsington7522]

Excellent 👌🏻💯💯

[@calvincoolidge5943]

1:00:22 Charles the 8th? More like the VIII

[@idiottalkshistory]

Just got my Roman historian card revoked!