The Ultimate Bulls Team

[@jonnyarnett]

How would you rank the Ultimate Teams so far, Bulls, Bucks and 76ers?? In case you would like to see the other videos in the series, here they are. Bucks kzbin.info/www/bejne/aoivYYiVbcqKhNE 76ers kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6GogKiva7OYrMU

[@MusicGeniusInternational]

I would change Harper for Gordon. Otherwise I agree.

[@robertcarr9578]

@jonnyarnett what happened to chet Walker and jerry SLOAN

[@victorvelez8144]

-John Paxson over Steve Kerr -Orlando Woodridge over Ben Gordon

[@robertcarr9578]

CAPTAIN KIRK OVER KERR BJ ARMSTRONG OVER KERR JOHN PAXSON OVER KERR

[@kaelenali1276]

Same

[@hotmealsonwheels4738]

This team is terrifying. It isn't the offense that's as terrifying as the incredible defense they'll be able to provide across ALL positions. This is a team that very easily could hold opposing teams to under 90 a game while very easily scoring 110+ a game. Great team construction man, I agree whole heartedly with every guy you put on here.

[@quackmemes5410]

“All positions” Except at PG lmao

[@jalen3876]

@@quackmemes5410ron harper was a lockdown pg

[@jxmmykriminallive]

@@quackmemes5410 rose is actually an underrated defender people overlook that part of his game because of how many athletic highlights he had in his prime offensively but even after his injury he was no slouch on defense

[@quackmemes5410]

@@jxmmykriminallive he was pretty bad defensively dawg

[@hotmealsonwheels4738]

@@jxmmykriminallive Exactly. People never really thought of Rose as that good on defense but he actually was. You can't be successful on a Thibs team if you don't bust ass on defense. Furthermore, even if Rose falls behind on defense, you've got Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, Butler, and many others who can pull up the slack on defense. Again, this team is absolutely terrifying. I'd never want to come up against this team in a game. Haha.

[@tonevays]

As the last name was about to be announced, was expecting Ron Harper or Zach LaVine... great video !!!

[@danielmocorro4256]

Or Luol Deng

[@ryanc2115]

Not lavine😂

[@Safety_prodz]

Or Van Lier

[@markuspiMA]

Great team! :) I think Ron Harper would have deserved at least an honourable mention considering the fact he is also a great two way player

[@sidjones16]

Not in Chicago.

[@potionz1733]

@@sidjones16he 3 peated with them in 96 97 and 98. Basically did the same thing as Rodman but he goes under appreciated

[@Boss3Nate]

@@potionz1733 exactly! They don't win without Harper

[@sidjones16]

@potionz1733 Jud Buechler 3 peated too. That's not really an argument. Rodman had to guard Shaq, Malone and Kemp. The primary or secondary scorer. His antics got dudes more focused on him than the game. He led the league in rebounds. Although he barely scored, the defense had to focus on him the same as Jordan. Imagine playing great defense and forcing a bad shot or miss, and Rodman gets a put back or offensive board. Now you have to try to stop them again, which usually doesn't happen. That will demoralize a team. Ron Harper got to hit open 3s and only had to focus his energy on defense. He was arguably one of the first 3 and D players. Not the same as the 20+ppg, two way Ron Harper. Like I said, not in Chicago.

[@Sweeptheleg83]

​​​@@sidjones16he sacrificed offense to better gel. He didn't have to score 20 a game because they had Jordan. But that doesn't mean he couldn't. Do u guys not understand how that works? When you're on a really good team, you sacrifice to make it work. If he had to, I'm willing to bet Harp could still light it up. Think Bosh in Miami. Same thing.

[@christopherr3676]

So butler n jordan would be first father son team 😮

[@trollsworstnightmare3769]

Dammit u beat me to it

[@christopherr3676]

@trollsworstnightmare3769 sorry bud lol

[@Brbos06]

You know your stuff for sure Johnny. I probably would've included Ron Harper in the three man rotation over Ben Gordon for the defensive advantage. I also would've liked to have seen Norm Van Leir and Jerry Sloan get a mention since they along with Gilmore did fairly well in Chicago early on in the franchise. But all that said I really do like your list and I think it's well thought out and researched. Another great video👍.

[@GOODMuzikBoi]

Nice list. More honorable mentions you should have on your list is Kirk Hinrich, Jerry Sloan & Luol Deng

[@ikedatike2533]

Yeah those guys are super awesome and very underrated coming from a pistons fan!

[@ryanfitzpatrick6557]

As someone who doesn’t have much knowledge about past basketball (I recently got into NBA), I appreciate your videos

[@facelessandnameless]

This is my favorite series on this channel 👌

[@TheeKing7]

Same, really hyped for the Ultimate Pistons

[@justinswinehart5361]

I fully agree. Having gotten to see the Bulls, I can't wait to see the Celtics, the Lakers, and the Pacers.

[@hyabberhane]

Agree

[@SIGuy7480]

I think Chet Walker and Jerry Sloan should have made the honorable mentions but the team you put together is great

[@suncokreten37]

I would even find room in final 13 for both of them. And perhaps Norm van Lier too.

[@Time-To-Obligation]

Chet Walker should made the team

[@calvinthomas1007]

Those two should have been on the team

[@alex4833]

Oh man, this is quite an amazing team. MJ, Scottie, Butler, Rodman, Kukoc, Rose at his peak, etc would be intimidating and so tough to stop. Great lineup and choices. As you said, their defense would be solid. The offense would be great also and there are some great clutch players too. Awesome video. Have a good week, Jonny 😊!

[@catherinelynnfraser2001]

I love getting reacquainted with a Franchise’s history. I love this series ♥️👍

[@williamlee7672]

Ron harper was a great scorer during his Cavs days. Averaging 20 ppg. However he sacrificed this to play defence. He should be on the team. He can defend and score if he wanted to.

[@SportsLegendsGaming]

This team would be UnstoppaBull!

[@williamcorliss9664]

Wait till you see the Lakers.

[@williamcorliss9664]

Good one tho

[@radu_nedelcut]

You'll see yourself out 😜

[@FrokuBabayy]

@@williamcorliss9664 Pfft nobody is stopping a trio of Jordan Pippen & Rodman buddy

[@williamcorliss9664]

@@FrokuBabayy Shaq magic kobe

[@bortonshort3761]

I thought Ron Harper would rank higher... or at all, for that matter (at least as an honorable mention). Anyhoo, this series keeps getting more and more interesting!

[@3243_]

I agree with a person who posted that they would have replaced Ben Gordon with Jerry Sloan, as Sloan provided not only great defense, but also toughness.

[@bigblueboricua]

This series is great. Cant wait for teams like, lakers, celtics and detroit.

[@jeremybarnett3945]

I would’ve at least had Jerry Sloan as a rotation player. Maybe flip a coin on whether to keep Butler or Gordon, but Sloan would mesh well with this team and give even more defense. Great lists and reasons as always!

[@junglehunterpredator101]

Agree, I would take Sloan over Gordon easily. More size for better rebounding as well, and could play SG/SF. I value his intangibles that he brings over the playoff point avg advantage of Gordon.

[@3243_]

Sloan provided toughness as well as defense.

[@bladerunner7324]

Amazing serie, glad to see it being continued. Cheers from Brazil

[@lilfolkes]

The one I've been waiting on...... My Squad 🐃🌎👀🔴

[@kevinhouse4376]

Check out Chet Walker's yearly stats from '69 to '75 after the Bulls acquired him from the 76ers. I'm really surprised you didn't at least have him listed as an honorable mention. Happy that Bob Love was at least second team, though. Interestingly, throughout much of his life, Love lived with a debilitating stuttering problem (much like Bill Walton). Now I'm anxiously awaiting for my team, the Boston Celtics.

[@briansu6493]

This will be a stacked one!

[@stanakkerman2386]

Jonny, I love your content, and I love this series, but you really need to give some love to some of the Bulls from the 1970's. For Chet Walker, Jerry Sloan, Norm Van Lier, and Tom Boerwinkle not to get honorable mention, not ONE of them, is ridiculous. Basketball in Chicago existed before 1984. At least you have Gilmore & Love in there

[@Rolo555]

Honestly it would be a better challenge if you could only pick a player once per team. Example Lebron is picked for the Cavs, but you can’t select him for the Heat. Edit : Steve Kerr over Jerry Sloan?? Idk about that.

[@faruquekhan3353]

But to be fair he is only doing it based on how well that player played during their tenure on the team. That is why Wade is not one of the player chosen.

[@anthonyv7910]

I think Kirk Hinrich should have at least made honorable mention... great video!

[@Narmorendil]

after doing all the teams, it would be fun to see a TIER/ranking list of them :D

[@Jutrzen]

Seems like a freaking hard task.

[@joshuas135]

I cannot wait to see the ultimate Celtics team!!!!

[@christopherr3676]

That teams gonna be deeeeeeeeep

[@gustavocavaca1757]

Behold: The best defense of all time. Just picture Bill Russel and KG together, it's scary by itself.

[@grog3514]

​@@gustavocavaca1757with McHale and Bird...

[@grog3514]

Do the rules allow players during different eras? Like do Celtics get a prime Bill Walton?

[@christopherr3676]

@grog3514 nah cos then you could throw shaq , pistol Pete etc in there

[@JPDG17]

This is such a dope series! At the end hopefully you can do a match-up (playoff tournament style) team vs team: see which team had the best of the best

[@randysandberg5615]

Don't forget Bob Love, Stormin Norman Van Lier, and Jerry Sloan.

[@justinallen1092]

I would have put LaVine at the backup 2 and Jimmy as the backup 3 but this team is stacked.

[@citrustron4474]

I’m really curious when Johnny gets to less storied franchises, like the Wizards, Hornets, and Twolves. It’s going to be a good opportunity to learn about some old players that I don’t know about 👍

[@nvm9040]

Jerry Sloan is the second best shooting guard in the Bulls history Bob love was good player back for the bulls in the seventies

[@wrongun43]

Nice work, I would have included Sloan, Walker and Van Lier though

[@hyabberhane]

Love the Bob Love appreciation

[@MrReese]

Can you imagine how good Rose could have become with the guidance of Jordan? And of course without getting injured. Rose was the kind of player that the Bulls franchise would have been able to build a new dynasty around.

[@kurtmagnus5243]

The only guidance that Rose would’ve needed was to be told that he needs a much more softer finishing with his moves. Just watching his landings gave me injuries.

[@Phoenix-pm2qr]

Jordan wouldnt help him at all. Phil Jackson made Jordan, and he would be the one making Rose even better

[@MrReese]

@@Phoenix-pm2qr Jordan was already a top 5 player in the league in his rookie season. Jackson made the Bulls 6x champs, but he did not make Jordan at all. Jordan played the best season of his career (and any career, for that matter) in 1988.

[@sideshowbobsaget8876]

​@@Phoenix-pm2qrWho was Phil before Jordan?

[@sideshowbobsaget8876]

​@@MrReeseThe bulk were already contenders before Phil took over. Jordan was the only Bulls player in his prime

[@thescarfguy]

The series is back!

[@kookurikapooh]

Loved the list. Would’ve wanted to see captain Kirk and Harper, even if they’re just honorable mentions.

[@bws0212]

Artis Gilmore one of the most underrated centers in NBA history...

[@yanncarduner4516]

A very stacked team which has solved his problems in the paint ,The A Train was awesome and Jooks had a solid career .Great defense,great scoring ,clutch plays .A nightmare for their opponents

[@cip7068]

Wow ! Just thinking MJ/ROSE/PIP would be so much fun to watch !

[@Bigski]

This is a great video! I didn’t see the first two in the series so, now I gotta go back and watch, lol! If you do complete all 30 teams you should do some kind of tournament/fan poll to see which one wins.

[@averyce2]

Jaw drop! No Ron Harper or Craig Hodges as Honorable Mentions?!?

[@rodmansdagoat]

Craig Hodges. Loved that guy before and during the first two championships. Among the Bulls’ best 3-point shooters you choose Kerr. Fair enough, you mention floor spacing as well. But for 3-point shooters, to me the legend is Hodges. And even between Kerr and Paxson as overall players and entitled playmakers in the Bulls the discussion is open and rightfully so. But for 3-pointers... man, Craig Hodges

[@03khel]

Jerry Sloan and Norm Van Lier should be included in the honorable mentions as well

[@eegrul1]

I do like the series. Series I would be even happier about will be brief history of each team, a chronological story about franchise ups and downs through the decades, of course told from the voice of my favorite youtuber ❤.

[@vittiriowashington5211]

I knew you would have A-Train at da 5.... salute

[@theidlegrower5455]

Also a great hypothetical Father and Son team. 😁

[@justinswinehart5361]

I can't wait for your video on the Pacers!

[@i.z.7878]

Much love from Croatia brother, glad you included Toni in the Röster🇭🇷

[@tmac731]

Great video Johnny Not having Luol Deng but having Derozan and Lavine is a bad move lol Rose Jordan Pippen Kukoc Gilmore Kirk Hinrich Big Ben Gordon Deng Rodman Noah Sloan Theus Walker Grant Love Starters Rodman is not in my starting lineup because lack of spacing for Rose and Jordan. Kukoc started in 1998 nba finals so he can contribute more with this lineup than Rodman with his shooting and passing. Gilmore is 7’2 and the most talented Center Jordan ever played with. Don’t get me started on the big 3 of Rose Jordan Pippen Bench Kirk is the all time Bulls 3pt leader so that’s why I have him over Kerr/Paxon. The baby bulls with Rodman is a dark horse championship team. 2007 Bulls with Kirk and Gordon beat the defending champions Miami Heat in the first round. This is the same team that pushed 2009 Celtics to 7 games, the greatest playoffs series of all time. Rodman and Noah in the paint means no layups/rebounds for anybody. Elite defense, rebounding, 3pt shooting and a shot creator. 3rd string I was in elementary school watching the baby Bulls so my bias of watching them is why they’re the 2nd string. Bob Love and Jerry Sloan have their numbers retire so they have to be in this team. I don’t know much about them so that’s why they’re on the 3rd string. As mush as I wanted to put Butler, Chet Walker gets the edge because he made more all star teams and played with Love Theus and Sloan. Grant is there for championship experience and toughness As a Bulls fan, Derozan does not deserve to be here especially over Luol Deng

[@CarbonCabron]

I was convinced simply by the combo of D Rose and MJ, the rest is super OP

[@BLI_80s]

Great to see some coverage of Bulls all-time players aside from the most famous 3, thank you for this

[@The_Yeet_Meister]

Keep the series going 🫡

[@zx9green791]

Love this series!!!

[@radu_nedelcut]

I would just like to support the continuation of this series with my comment.

[@steezsteezsteez]

I love this series

[@Peakfreud]

Only youtuber I never miss a video A D-Rose MJ back Court would have been insane, they may have broken their own 72 game record.

[@gavincampbell7488]

I can’t believe I’m a day late. How did I miss this. Another all-time team video? HELL YEAH BROTHERRRR 🫵😩🤙

[@unlimitedrange280]

Surprised u didn’t mention Jerry Sloan. Ik I’m not that familiar with his game but he was a 2x all star with 6 all defensive selections. Or maybe instead of Ben Gordon get a better scorer and shooter in Lavine Also was thinking somehow including Luol Deng, making even the lineup more stacked defensively

[@jonnyarnett]

Sloan might have been nice. I personally wouldn’t sub him for Gordon though, because at that point, I was more concerned with getting another 3 point shooter, rather than yet another solid defensive player

[@unlimitedrange280]

@@jonnyarnettthat’s fair but Lavine imo would’ve been the choice. Also I know these videos probably take long but it would be interesting adding a specific year- like 2011 d rose or 2022 DeRozan for example. Think it would be a cool idea but if you think that’s unnecessary then that’s fair

[@TheoBrownMusic7]

This squad is absolutely lethal. I could see them winning against an all time lakers or Celtics team

[@isadora6729]

Now waiting for the next

[@silvianosanchez8430]

Jerry Sloan and Chet Walker need to be on the list.

[@Hendrix.Robinson]

Who else clicked on this episode knowing 4/5 starting spots? Thanks Jonny!

[@kevinhouse4376]

I did predict Artis Gilmore would be the first-team center because the Bulls haven't had any other great centers in their history.

[@uncivilwaterboy0788]

Jonny when you are done with this series you should rank all these all time teams from worst to best

[@SportsLegendsGaming]

Great team Jonny, I just wish you had included the player picked by the Bulls in the 1966 NBA Expansion Draft, the Original Bull: Jerry Sloan

[@silent6898.]

Its awesome to see an all time team that includes both father and son

[@TellHerNothing]

Ron artest would have been insane on this squad

[@sidjones16]

Hinrich should've been at least an honorable mention.

[@leriasmichail9183]

Great video. Keep it going. ❤❤

[@mukaiba1]

The only people missing from the honorable mentions are Jerry Sloan, Norm Van Lier, and Ron Harper. Keep up the great content!

[@PeterAtkinson]

So glad you’re continuing this series. It’s awesome! 👍👍

[@acdcdave1387]

That's one seriously tough team, you got to keep this series going

[@vat_laaw]

As for the potential roster spots to honorable mentions, it depends if you plan to include duplicate entries. I saw Ron Artest listed, but when I think Ron Artest, I think Indiana Pacers. I know he won a title in LA and was hugely instrumental in that title, but he was a huge factor on those Pacer squads prior to Meta World Peace and the move. Saying that, it also brings up the Washington Wizards including Jordan in their ultimate team, even though Mike is the quintessential Bull. Interesting premises Mr. Arnett... good editing Mrs. Arnett.

[@cadecrusader]

Thank you Jonny!

[@gelatojack202]

Mad respect for adding Ben Gordon

[@lilblackmamba538]

This series is craxy in a good way! Out of all the teams just off the top of my head..... Bucks, celtics, bulls, Lakers, Spurs, Magic, rockets, wizards and sixers. I think if they all faced off im picking Lakers

[@Rodanguirus]

Not a Lakers fan, but yeah, they just may have the best all-time team. Opponents just shouldn't bother going into the paint against them. It says something that their (relative) "weakness" may be a backcourt including Magic, Kobe, and West (particularly on defense).

[@timtresch4848]

Not even listing Luol Deng as an honorable mention is crazy. I'd say let Kukoc be the backup 4 or really a combo-forward off the bench since you still have Grant, then you can have Deng as one of the deep bench guys. Also, I understand why you have Steve Kerr as the back-up PG, but really he doesn't do anything that Ben Gordon, or Zach Lavine couldn't do and both(especially Lavine) could bring more overall scoring, playmaking, size, strength etc. Gordon definitely played some mins at PG for the mid-2000s Bulls, and a lot of crunch time mins along side rookie D-Rose in 08-09.

[@ericfurst6091]

When finished, make a playoff video about the franchise teams.

[@entervman2011]

@Jonny, the only thing I had different was Tony Kukoc as the second unit SF. I also like John Paxon or BJ Armstrong coming off the bench.

[@jlrob85]

On paper it’s terrifying but wondering if in real life they might have too many people wanting the ball in their hands. Rose facilitating MJ and helping him out on D and scoring would be a great combo

[@onubucket3220]

Great team, didn't see Luol Deng though. Not sure if you forgot or just didn't mention him.

[@jonnyarnett]

Didn’t forget, just didn’t mention. I could have had him as an honorable mention though. The honorable mentions list honestly could have been much bigger with guys like Deng, Kirk Hinrich, Ron Harper, Bill Cartwright, Jerry Sloan, etc

[@florianpoulin7108]

Another idea : if you have to choose any Bull player of MJ's era (with the level they had at the time they played with him), Which one do you choose for starting lineup, 2nd unit, 3rd unit ? and how do you rank them by position. Do you choose R.Harper, Kerr, Paxson, B.J. Armstrong, Hodges ? Pippen, Woolridge, Kukoc ? Grant or Rodman ? Corzine, Cartwright, Perdue, Wennington, Longley, Parish ? Also curious for 80' Margic and Bird teams, and 2000' Lakers.

[@sidseverino]

I think it would be better if there's no duplicate players in every team. Only one team for one player. Rose MJ Pippen Rodman Gilmore Kerr Kukoc Grant Bob Love Noah Gordon Lavine BJ Armstrong REMOVE: Butler (Heat) DeRozan (Raptors)

[@streetsweeper8831]

Steve kerr over jerry Sloan is wild

[@elijahspeller6796]

Great team...I concur with some of the other comments... this is my favorite series on the channel

[@chrishedricks308]

One of if not the best 2 way team all time god this would have been dangerous if this team actually existed

[@MrDarknesstolight]

I was surprised that Horace Grant wasn't your backup PF

[@JonCom3dy]

I can’t wait for episode 31 of this series: The Ultimate Team.

[@dejanrancic7409]

Pretty much as expected roster. The only uncertainty for me was the starting center position, where the two standouts from my knowledge of the Bulls were Luke Longley and Joakim Noah, though I was sure there was someone more deserving than either of them (heard of Artis Gilmore, but had no team association for him). As for honourable mentions, while there are some standout names there, I don't see who they could justifiably replace from the chosen 13. This team is scary with both units and any other cobination of players. And Bucks and 76ers themselves are nothing to sneeze at. It's already very competitive.

[@Life-is-mid]

You should do a 2k sim with all these teams. Loving the series so far btw

[@jamiekelley4076]

Great video again! I love this series. I would be interested in wondering why you picked Kukoc over LaVine as they seem similar but with Zach having a higher ceiling. Also would absolutely love if at the end of this you put out a video of your top 5 ultimate teams you put together.

[@jonnyarnett]

Because fit. Kukoc has the chemistry with many of the Bulls on this roster, and yet another athletic scoring wing type player would have been a bit much, because this squad is flooded with guys like that. At a certain point, you need spot up shooters who are great at playing off-ball, and I thought Kukoc made more sense from that perspective

[@remulas13]

Fair comment but I don't think Lavine would fit in as well as Kukoc. Kukoc earned the respect of Jordan and Pippen and knows how to play as a role player on a championship team. As much as I love Lavine, he has only been a top scorer on bad teams. For a role player spot, Kukoc is definitely the choice.

[@deforestdelpech7528]

I think the better question is why Kerr over Lavine? Or Ben Gordon even. Lavine's the best outside scoring wing the bulls have ever had... right? And he's an elite slasher too

[@junglehunterpredator101]

Thank you for the video. Still thinking on my lineup as it's very difficult to choose the bench. I really wish we could hear Phil Jackson's thoughts on what his roster build would look like.

[@zahwanshiyaz]

YOURE THE BESTTT

[@deforestdelpech7528]

If you're looking for outside shooting, Lavine>>>>Kerr and Gordon he's within a couple percent of each, especially on catch-and-shoot 3s, but can do more than either. I mean, just imagine swaping Kerr with Lavine on that 2nd 3peat. Heck they might have gone far into the 95 playoffs with Lavine even.

[@grammysworld5449]

Still waiting on Adrian Dantley and Connie Hawkins videos Jonny.. Keep educating these people

[@chrisgermain3]

I love this. I have my own list, but I did one player per team, so LeBron for example isn't on 4 different teams. Rodman = Pistons and Butler = Heat. Deroan = Raptors I have Norm Van Leir. Jerry Sloan, Chet Walker and kirk Hinrick over Kerr. Loul Deng over Gordon. I may rethink Gordon. I may need some shooting.

[@remulas13]

Love the video and team you constructed. They might not be the most talented team but they would be one of last ones i would want to face with the defensive tenacity and sheer will to win (Jordan, Butler, Pippen, Rodman, and Noah would be a sight to see)

[@pharaohstatus9333]

now thisssssss is a team, love the defense

[@adrenalineunlimited]

For my bench, I'm going Rondo, Lavine, Butler, Gasol, and Noah. I'm taking Kukoc, Demar, and Korver in my reserves. I think that gives me a significant increase in playmaking while not sacrificing three point shooting and still giving a very difficult defensive look to opposing teams. Kerr might have accomplished more and Love might have been great in his day, but I definitely feel that between Rondo, Gasol, and Korver you make up everything they would have given you and then some.

[@quietlike]

During their years in chicago tho… not stats with other teams

[@adrenalineunlimited]

​@@quietlikegasol led the league in double doubles as a Bull, Rondo was leading Chicago to a playoff victory against Boston until he got hurt, and Korver shot 42 percent from 3 during his time on the team.

[@tigerlily5313]

If we're talking in their prime. Then I've gotta move Jimmy Butler to backup 3 and make Dwyane Wade backup 2. And have Derozan take Ben Gordon's place as the 15th spot. There's no way I'm not having the 3rd best sg of all time coming off the bench for MJ. I'd also love if you included coaches to these ultimate teams so we can factor in the style of basketball they'd be playing as a unit as well.

[@junglehunterpredator101]

Totally agree. Who's your #2 SG all time?

[@tigerlily5313]

@@junglehunterpredator101 The Black Mamba