I think you just saved a bunch of LT4 owners about a grand on some pie in the sky claims! Thank you for a great video!
@blackula027 ай бұрын
I love real results, not claims and assumptions by fan boys and companies.
@AngelRios259Ай бұрын
Great video and information! Im currently working on building my 22 ZL1 and i can say this video was very helpful!
@floridahighperformanceАй бұрын
Thank you for the feedback, glad you found value in it. We are set to release the second test where I add these to my heads/cam ZL1 Bad Punkn!
@unclemel82767 ай бұрын
I had the DSX lid, sold it and upgraded to the LMP lid. As far as sound in the car. DSX has a better whine sound, even at low speeds. IMO
@dansherwood98517 ай бұрын
I’m at 825 rwhp on my 17 with a ported lt4 blower, cam, upgraded fuel system, LT’s, pullies, TB, e60 so probably a good candidate for one of these lids so looking forward to ur next test.
@floridahighperformance7 ай бұрын
For sure!
@terryrutherford21146 ай бұрын
I have the DSX lid on my 2016 Z06. I have not dynoed but I didn't feel a seat of your pants performance gain. I still don't have the whine I would like, but it improved a little. My LSA engine had screaming supercharger whine. haha! Thanks for the video!
@floridahighperformance5 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@usacshaker17 ай бұрын
I bought an mpi lid for my zl1 strictly for cosmetic reasons for car shows. Noticed a bit more wine but no significant gains as expected. I currently have Roto-Fab non big gulp, 95 mm throttle body, and flex fuel and tune. Topped out at about 622rwhp. Great content! Looking forward to seeing what BAD Pumpkin does next!!!😎👊
@floridahighperformance7 ай бұрын
MPI is a nice lid for sure
@rommel-7777 ай бұрын
Brother, you are putting in the work! Wish I was in FL would def bring my Z to you thank you very much, keep up the amazing work and God bless mate
@floridahighperformance7 ай бұрын
I appreciate that!
@sneezinhatchАй бұрын
I built a 1 inch riser for my supercharger to get the lid higher, next Steve Morris makes a cathedral port style for the intake man does it help air flow and low iats, makes some good power to he sells bolt on big block supercharger kits
@oldschool62687 ай бұрын
Thank you for doing the test, you spent hard earned money that you didn't haft to spend. My 2018 ZL1 has a roto fab grey filter and borla Atak cat back, that's it, the car is about 18 months from pay off, once that happens it will definitely get a lid change in a magnuson 2650R, katech billet pump and a stage 3 cam in my 6 speed manual. working on getting my twin turbo chevelle on the road. 72 T56 magnum, LQ4 6.0 Stock rings low boost 12 psi or less, 2 borg warner S256SX 93 octane with M1 methanol, LS9 head gasket, ARP head bolts. So I have plenty work for now.
@floridahighperformance7 ай бұрын
Best of luck with the build!
@faithdunn64712 ай бұрын
I own a 2019 zl1 and did some modifications ... I completely agree with your opinion b4 you said it Thanks for showing people real hp gains
@floridahighperformanceАй бұрын
You're welcome. Lid test 2.0 coming soon...
@stamenblock7 ай бұрын
I have the DSX lid on my 2016 CTS-V. With the stealth package powder coat option for a more discreet look. I have not tried any other lids but couldn't be happier with the results going from stock to the DSX one. Whine alone was worth the money!
@floridahighperformance7 ай бұрын
There you go!
@Boost_Add1ct7 ай бұрын
Great job testing with as much consistency as possible! Look forward to the test results on the heads/cam ported blower set-up, I agree and think thats where the results will standout👌
@floridahighperformance6 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@dsmubz7 ай бұрын
Wow I've been trying to do this test for like a year, haven't had the time, thank you for your time, these tests take quite a bit of time to do.
@floridahighperformance7 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@billbassett84172 ай бұрын
Great video and information. I know that was a lot of work and the data and knowledge is definitely worth it. I hope you keep making videos like this for the people. Keep up the great work 👍 💪
@floridahighperformanceАй бұрын
Thank you - a lot more coming...takes a lot of time and money to produce these. Lid test 2.0 coming soon on my personal ZL1!
@ClaytonYatescarenthusiast6 ай бұрын
This is youtube! Dude best video on automotive youtube in a while. Keep this up and you're channel will blow up. Thank you
@floridahighperformance5 ай бұрын
Wow, thanks!
@davesteck7667 ай бұрын
I think it’s worth mentioning the DSX lid power gain listed on the site is compared against the 15-16 lid and NOT against the tall 17+ lid.
@floridahighperformance7 ай бұрын
Great info thank you for adding this point
@blg82342 ай бұрын
Awesome testing. Very informative.......but where's part 2? VERY curious to see if the lids made a difference on a modded blower. 🤔🤔🤔
@floridahighperformanceАй бұрын
Drops SOON...just finished my ZL1. Film LID TEST 2.0 next week and edit/drop soon after!!! It is coming. I am one man and run one of the busiest shops in the country.
@byronmcewen2927 ай бұрын
This is real deal content for lt4 owners. Thanks! Keep up the good work. What do you think is better jokerz or kong? Looking at ported blower 103tb and big gulp for my next round of mods. Any input would be awesome.
@floridahighperformance7 ай бұрын
We use both. Comes down to client goals. In my experience having tested both, Jokerz has more low end hit over kong on the lt4 stuff….i actually have a video on here where I test the Kong x port on a head cam zl1 and discuss the differences in powerband from x port to race port
@lsxfan47257 ай бұрын
Nice video, can you make a pull on the ported blower before the heads cam swap to see if there’s much difference
@floridahighperformance7 ай бұрын
I actually do that in episode 2 of my ZL1 (bad punkn) series which you can go watch on this channel
@shatz727 ай бұрын
Love your content and looking forward to part 2 with these lids. I completely agree with your opinion about seeing much better results with more mods.👍🔥
@floridahighperformance7 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
@myoneblackfriend31517 ай бұрын
I can't afford one of these, but I sure like them. Thank you for sharing your research. Maybe someday I'll get one. Don't hold your boost though.
@beelowssАй бұрын
Hello - this was a good vid. Have you made any progress with vid 2 after the modifications to the car you mentioned in this video?
@floridahighperformanceАй бұрын
My ZL1 is done...EP 3 just dropped. I will conduct the lid test 2.0 in two weeks.
@andrewg.21657 ай бұрын
This is your best video so far imo…I really didn’t expect those results!!!
@floridahighperformance7 ай бұрын
A lot more of this coming
@mjc35027 ай бұрын
One of, if not the BEST video ever on a subject. Amazing that you performed this test. I have been looking at a lid wondering if the results match their claims. Great video, thanks.
@floridahighperformance7 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@Nolimitv37 ай бұрын
I own a 17 ctsv and was thinking of doing a lmp lid but Dsx will do
@floridahighperformance7 ай бұрын
Whatever you choose will be better than the stock V Lid!
@MF-qq4dm7 ай бұрын
Been patiently and eagerly waiting for this one! The content Lt4 owners have been waiting for, thanks for the work Florida High Performance! Looking forward to this comparison on a ported blower 🙌
@trdtuner77 ай бұрын
Elite content! Can’t wait for the next test! May have to switch my LMP lid to save 10lbs
@TheRealMcCoy887 ай бұрын
Just bought the LMP lid mainly because it's the biggest and best looking one imo. Gonna powder coat it gold and slap that baby on 😎. I only have 2" headers and catless X-pipe, cai and an E50 tune currently making 700whp. Hopefully after I port the blower and do pulleys, cam and full E85 i can make well over 800whp 🤞
@floridahighperformance6 ай бұрын
Sounds fun! Good luck with the build.
@minni10945 ай бұрын
Good test, I almost bought a lid for my stock V
@floridahighperformance4 ай бұрын
Glad this helped...
@gimmethecarkeys7 ай бұрын
I agree with everything you said. More changes would be noticed on a max effort type build. Might gain 15-25 on a car that makes 800+whp
@gregsutton44386 ай бұрын
Do you know when you're going to have the next video on the modified with the lids as im holding off purchasing until i see the results! Thanks.
@floridahighperformance6 ай бұрын
We are currently modding Bad Punkn as we speak. Head/Cam/Race port on 93/MS109. We will finish tuning the car, and then will replicate this test again on that car and see if we get any changes!
@SuperCarSweden7 ай бұрын
Awesome info & video, I agree with your opinion for why not too much different. Waiting for your next experiment on your ZL1. 👍🏻
@floridahighperformance7 ай бұрын
Coming soon!
@Standyourground217 ай бұрын
Waiting for the high horsepower ZL1 test. Subscribed.
@floridahighperformance7 ай бұрын
Coming….
@samcase70457 ай бұрын
I really love your videos man…..you’re very thorough I want to bring my 19 ZL1 to you….im in NC I would like to discuss some things I want to do with my car
@floridahighperformance7 ай бұрын
Email me- I have a lot of vehicles come to me from out of state Sales@flhighperformance.com -Erik
@lonldrifter7 ай бұрын
Since my 16 cts v came with the smaller gen 1 lid. I upgraded to a DSX lid, but also added LT, Intake and flex tune. DSX and stock gen 2 lids cost about the same, so that too influenced my purchase. I will say, I couldn’t justify the $1,000 lids…
@floridahighperformance7 ай бұрын
Can’t go wrong with the DSX!
@thereissomecoolstuff7 ай бұрын
This was needed and well done. I had a prototype Gen 5 whipple with a flat vs normal top that they sell to the public. I was convinced it gave me .75-1 more psi of boost but I never got it on a dyno. Coming from C8 and want to get a ZL1. Is there any year you suggest staying away from? Good job. I enjoy your channel.
@floridahighperformance7 ай бұрын
Stick with 19+ ZL1
@thereissomecoolstuff7 ай бұрын
@@floridahighperformance thanks. Great channel.
@ByrdMan3927 ай бұрын
Im very interested to see the Orange ZL1 im tuned in 💪🏽
@floridahighperformance6 ай бұрын
Coming soon...
@Performance_Motorsports5 ай бұрын
I showed up late. I LIKED the comparison and professional content. Looking now for the Bad Pumpkin you tube video. New subscriber for my 2018 ZL11LE...great stuff!!!
@floridahighperformance4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much...BAD PUNKN coming soon!!!!
@ruru25005 ай бұрын
You'll get it if you keep at it. Gain some confidence, you got this! Really appreciate the info you provided here.
@floridahighperformance4 ай бұрын
TY
@Asizzle22ZL17 ай бұрын
As always you give great content. Appreciate the work you put it giving us common folks great info as we look into which mods will benefit us the most
@floridahighperformance7 ай бұрын
Glad to help
@NoLiftChris7 ай бұрын
Will forsure be on a standby for the next video
@floridahighperformance5 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@shadowopsairman15837 ай бұрын
Can you feel the difference in blind testing on the road with the DSX vs the others?
@floridahighperformance6 ай бұрын
No
@emperorbobarino7 ай бұрын
It would interesting to see this test again with a max effort on stock architecture type setup. See if there are any gains with the most maximized realistic test motor.
@floridahighperformance6 ай бұрын
Agreed...will conduct this test on my max effort ZL1 soon...
@JBsCars937 ай бұрын
Maybe I missed it, but did you say which lid you found increased blower whine the most?
@floridahighperformance6 ай бұрын
No discernible difference on the dyno as it’s very loud in the shop when doing pulls. A more accurate test would be out on the road…which I’ll do with bad punkn ZL1
@pimpnick49203 ай бұрын
I just put the dsx lid on my 18 ctsv. It has way more whine. I like that it fits under the strut brace. I would recommend for any v owners. Edit. I had a rotofab and a catch can on it for 20k miles. I took off the factory silencer plate from the lid when i did it. I could barely hear it. Now it's nice. Not too obnoxious like my friends trx.
@floridahighperformance3 ай бұрын
Thank you for the feedback!
@rollinwitjesc7 ай бұрын
Just a quick question…. Why jokerz over Kong? Just want a better understanding between the two, thanks
@floridahighperformance6 ай бұрын
Jokerz will make more low end boost and torque over the kong lt4 port - both will make more peak boost and hp…I run both depending on customer needs
@BurstIntoFlames7 ай бұрын
Did that stock lid still have that sound dampener piece in it? Maybe a give away of the lids you don’t keep on the car after the next video?
@floridahighperformance7 ай бұрын
Lid did not have the damper in it- client removed it prior to it coming to our shop….we might do a giveaway let’s see what happens!
@Grumpyoldman6662 ай бұрын
I’m assuming very similar results on a 2017 c7 z06
@floridahighperformanceАй бұрын
Yes
@archivaldosanchez75084 ай бұрын
I just purchased the dsx im doing it more for the louder whine
@floridahighperformance3 ай бұрын
Enjoy!
@cutitshaveit7 ай бұрын
Thank you for yoir honesty I appreciated. One question do you think with a soler throttle body and say dsx or mpi lid would have more improvement. Everything else stock except for burger filter thank you I'd appreciated when you can to respond thank you sir
@floridahighperformance7 ай бұрын
Probably not
@cutitshaveit7 ай бұрын
Thank you for response
@tmorales48367 ай бұрын
Great video, I learned a lot on this and I’m looking forward to your next video!
@floridahighperformance7 ай бұрын
Thank you
@djrr.zl17 ай бұрын
have you guys ever thought of porting the stock Lid?
@floridahighperformance7 ай бұрын
Nothing much to remove material wise- it’s more of how the air moves up, across, and down the lid into the ports I’d say….
@jwrice7437 ай бұрын
Amazing content, so much thought-provoking information.
@floridahighperformance7 ай бұрын
Thank you so much
@lindsaybrown92984 ай бұрын
Here out of curiosity looking to find lid with better flow and lower intake air temps on a z06 wich seems to be an issue
@floridahighperformance3 ай бұрын
As you have seen, there isn't one single lid that does the trick. Rather, I think they help along with other mods like larger HX, HX expansion tanks, etc...
@Trucker03083 ай бұрын
I had DSX lid 60mm upper 9.4 lower with a Kong Export porting on a stage 1 build, 416 stroker, Cam Rotofab big gulp and the rest and I’m telling you with that loud exhaust I still heard a good whine. Later I added methanol e85 Maggie 2650, 80mm upper same lower and I don’t hear a damn thing, but the power and efficiency that 2650 gives is second to none. Bottom line that stock 1.7 blower whether it’s ported or not will fall flat on its face after one good pull, don’t waste your money like I did buying lids and porting that little 1.7 and get a 2650, both Kong Performance and Jokers portem and if you wanna waste your money they make lids for those too.
@floridahighperformanceАй бұрын
agreed
@AverageTrackRat6 ай бұрын
MORE OF THESE! Get ahead in the LT world! More research for the LS1 / LSX aire to the throne
@floridahighperformance5 ай бұрын
A lot coming...
@jsteveholloway7 ай бұрын
Has he or any shop done such tests for a max effort LT4 2650 build?
@floridahighperformance7 ай бұрын
Coming soon….all part of my build series on bad punkn zl1
@918sonicsupra7 ай бұрын
I might have missed it but did the iats improve with an aftermarket lid?
@floridahighperformance7 ай бұрын
Not really- 100-103* avg through the pull….next test would have to be driving out on the road
@mjc35026 ай бұрын
If you ever dynoed a rotofab vs the rotofab biggulp?
@floridahighperformance5 ай бұрын
No but I can...
@mjc35025 ай бұрын
I would love to see the difference that you get. If it's worth upgrading or not.
@monster76497 ай бұрын
Just goes to show you how feel the oem factory lid performs gm knows what they’re doing when they put out a product
@floridahighperformance7 ай бұрын
Usually they do- not always. Remember- the original Lt4 lids on the V and the Z06 were trash
@SuarezJJ117 ай бұрын
I agree I think tho on a FBO 15+ psi bolt on car the gains on the lids will be shown more than at the stock boost levels
@joshgessinger45092 ай бұрын
Awsome video funny the cheaper lid did the best i love it lol!!
@floridahighperformanceАй бұрын
Lid test 2.0 coming soon....
@5harryb7 ай бұрын
Great video, keep them videos coming. Can't wait to bring you my C7 Z06
@floridahighperformance7 ай бұрын
Thanks! Will do!
@hoochiemama737 ай бұрын
Great job! Great content! DSX .....great product
@floridahighperformance7 ай бұрын
It sure is!
@LMBC6Brian7 ай бұрын
Thanks for doing this. And we all knew it was going to be money wasted.
@marklloyd41534 ай бұрын
For the money you would spend on those lids with labor couldn’t you get the same maybe more for that amount by modifying the stock lid by having it polished inside ? I don’t know for sure how far you could take the polishing with the stock blower system ? I would even be curious if the idea was pushed to polishing and porting the factory heads and reinstalling ?
@floridahighperformance3 ай бұрын
I think people like the look of something that isn't stock...that is main reason you buy a lid...the gains are so subjective...to each their own.
@sergioduran35457 ай бұрын
Great video Eric! 👏👏
@floridahighperformance7 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@jairomartinez19147 ай бұрын
which lid had the loudest whine?
@floridahighperformance6 ай бұрын
MPI seems to make the most sound out on the road
@Need4SpeedVette6 ай бұрын
Erik, great video!!
@floridahighperformance6 ай бұрын
Thank you
@thegoat42327 ай бұрын
Appreciate videos like this. Thank you
@floridahighperformance7 ай бұрын
Glad you like them!
@two4neto6 ай бұрын
I have a 2023 ZL1 and cant find the dsx lid for my year on there website. Is it not compatible?
Kind of an expensive mod for such little gain. It might help more on a stock car.
@boostedz06837 ай бұрын
Way to go DSX!! Stl
@andrewsmith55124 ай бұрын
Follow up vid?
@floridahighperformance3 ай бұрын
IN the works....
@barnettjk1237 ай бұрын
Very good video
@floridahighperformance7 ай бұрын
Thanks
@BIGHEN19767 ай бұрын
Great video thanks 💪🏿💪🏿
@floridahighperformance6 ай бұрын
No problem 👍
@bmere82827 ай бұрын
Great video
@floridahighperformance7 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@z06camaro3 ай бұрын
Thanks. Saved me 800bucks.
@floridahighperformanceАй бұрын
:)
@ATS-VRACING7 ай бұрын
Great video. 👍💪💪💪
@floridahighperformance7 ай бұрын
Appreciate it!
@Frozenv37 ай бұрын
Good content!
@floridahighperformance7 ай бұрын
Glad you think so!
@utahcountypicazospage54127 ай бұрын
Taller isn’t better? Dsx easy choice
@funnn95577 ай бұрын
Nice 👍🏾
@floridahighperformance6 ай бұрын
Thanks 💯
@Techangler657 ай бұрын
Like I say considering all things at the end of the day it’s dark
@floridahighperformance7 ай бұрын
Facts
@loganpenland65686 ай бұрын
Video is great not criticing one bit. But 100$ per hp or ftlb is steep!! Some were 200$ per ftlb whew. I think a good set of roller rocker arms would make a whole lot more bang for the buck
@floridahighperformance5 ай бұрын
Def not the best bang for buck....
@robertmontalvo5976 ай бұрын
So less than 1% horsepower gain absolutely not worth it
@mc-lc4sq7 ай бұрын
Sponsored by DSX
@floridahighperformance6 ай бұрын
Not even remotely sponsored by DSX - I paid for these out of pocket and spent $1000 producing this video- not including my own time and equipment use
@mc-lc4sq6 ай бұрын
@@floridahighperformance it made a big difference on my max effort stock blower zl1 compared to the dsx so looking forward to your next video.
@floridahighperformance6 ай бұрын
@@mc-lc4sq which one you running?
@lt1z3507 ай бұрын
So no wideband on the car don’t know that the lmp goes very lean and needs to be adjusted in the tune same on the mpi. Also the stock tune limits the hp to exactly 9-9.5 psi it has a boost bypass that opens when boost increases. I can promise you the lmp and mpi both make way more power on a fbo max effort car. A totally stock car on my tune makes 12 psi so also his claim of not enough airflow is crap. This is why you do not use these people to tune your car period he doesn’t even know anything about them. I just had a 4000 lbs bolt on car run 9.15@151 mph it will be the fastest when we get a little weight out of it and get better then 600 da. Don’t bother waiting on his crap I can’t tell you just doing a proper setup the two lids do make more hp. That 9.15 car makes 830whp bolt on using e70 and the lmp lid.
@floridahighperformance7 ай бұрын
I did have a wideband on the car- no major change in AFR on this set up between the lids- other combos may yield different results. The fact that you felt compelled enough to watch the video and then cope with your own insecurities as a man by posting negative things about my knowledge on this subject tells me I’m doing something right! -Erik
@JarredNoah7 ай бұрын
Extra crispy 💀
@floridahighperformance7 ай бұрын
@@JarredNoahOnly people doing worse than you will ridicule your work and efforts in life- not those doing better than you. Remember that.
@RRCoolJ-bq3pi7 ай бұрын
Erik welcomed all questions and comments. And this hater was too lazy to even ask if he had a wideband on the car. Yeah, he thinks his stuff is better no way in hell. Talk is cheap. He's just trying to feed his overrated ego....
@floridahighperformance6 ай бұрын
@@RRCoolJ-bq3piall questions and comments are certainly welcome- good or bad- just might not like my answer
@spencersmustache28447 ай бұрын
This video should be 5min long max
@andrewg.21657 ай бұрын
Sorry TikTok has fried your attention span…this was spot on what normal people need to see
@RRCoolJ-bq3pi7 ай бұрын
This hater needs to get a new passion. It's definitely not motorsports.
@Omar-wb3dj7 ай бұрын
Where's bad pumpkin!
@floridahighperformance6 ай бұрын
Coming!!
@stephenhodges69996 ай бұрын
Wish it included the Kong lid with these tests…..🤔🫣🧐