👌The ULTIMATE guide for setting up a double sided tumbler in Lightburn with your hobby laser!

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

*If you skip through this video, you'll MISS several really important tips and tricks!*

[@Pir8Gaming361]

I have lightburn and custom. Built a machine to my specs. What are the burn setting you used for your laser? FYI I blew my 5w laser neje and due to not buying from their shop I can't get it replaced or support. Now I have a 0.5w laser. Can you assist in the settings for lightburn using calv cold steel spray and rotary chuck?

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

@@Pir8Gaming361 The settings are in the video.

[@jasonfair5160]

Used this technique to engrave tumblers for my entire baseball team. Logo on the front, number and name on the back. It worked flawlessly! Thank you so much for sharing!

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

Excellent!

[@boardonthebayou6525]

Hi from Houma, La and from someone that is looking into the hobby and possibly even a little side cash. One of my hobbies is board games and I review them on my KZbin channel. One of the uses I was looking for was to make custom inserts and boxes for some of the games. I am torn on which one to get. Most of the comparison videos seemed to be paid for and lean hard towards their sponsor. You review like I do, straight and honest, give the facts and let the viewer decide. (Plus being a local Louisiana guy is a bonus, haha). I'm looking doing some tumblers. Definitely stuff like the multilayer signs and Mothers day sign. Really would love to engrave stone coasters, like slate or sandstone. And definitely would love to do portraits on wood and tiles. Those wood coins you made a few months back gave me tons of ideas too. Plus something I can grow into. I see there are 20w quad diode lasers coming onto the market and seems like a great entry. Between the Atomstack, Xtool and Ortur, (probably others). Is there really much of a difference in quality of portraits and engraving? Or is more on dialing in the best setting? Kinda leaning towards the Xtool due to RA2 rotary, enclosure and the extensions available. But it is on the upper end of what I'm looking to spend. But appears to be worth it. Any advise or a good shove to one side of the fence or the other would be greatly appreciated.

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

Not really. I love all of my diode lasers.

[@sicciful]

this was another very interesting video rich.we learned something new.

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

Great Luc! Thank you!

[@chacon5641]

Love what you do for the laser community. Thank you for your time it helps me and very short thousand more people! Thank you.

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

My pleasure, thank you!

[@Essentialvideophoto]

Hi Rich. Great video and great tip on how to simplify whole process . What a great feelings to be a Master of Universe with your work and knowledge about laser engraving and more. Thank you as always,

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

Glad it was helpful Bob! Thanks for the support!

[@jeffreycanfora1091]

Absolutely did it again Rich! Knocked it outta the park. I think once you got in the frame of mind of actually running the job half way into the video, that it brought up some great detailed information. My tumblers turned out perfect as far as alignments on opposite faces of the tumblers, and overcoming brand logos on smaller tumbler mugs was also something I’ll be up against. But because I didn’t know what to do about white space, the tumbler was a 3 hour job @ 180mm/m on 10W library settings for stainless which was the closest my library settings had available for the job. I didn’t like the big speed difference from converting mm/s for coated metal in laserbox. The white space part of the video was a great addition to the topic. Will be handy for larger cutting boards etc. 🙏🏼

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

Glad it helped Jeffery! 👍

[@yertelt5570]

Thanks for another great video. I was thinking about doing two sided shot glasses and was basically heading down this path, thanks for confirming my theory. I'm sure you know this but for other LightBurn newbies like me, you don't have to open a calculator to quarter your initial tool path rectangle, just type /4 behind the number you want to divide, LightBurn will do the math for you.

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

I use Lightburn as a calculator, but not in the training videos Yertel. One thing at a time...

[@yertelt5570]

@@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Makes sense, one topic at a time and don't overwhelm people.

[@raysalter6456]

Thanks Rich, I think I'll start with something easier 😊😊😊thank you for your time

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

Good thinking Ray!

[@PhilippinesDarrellCheeks]

Nice video Rich ! - Hope to see you soon in the Philippines.

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

Maybe this year!

[@guidoavidano5809]

Great job man! To speed up things you can enter substraction, addition multiplication and division directly in the writing field instead of opening the calculator...etc. See you next time!

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

Yes, I always forget that Guido! Thanks for the reminder.

[@paragonn22]

Once again, thank you! I'm lost without you! LMAO!!!! Seriously, you have saved me BIG TIME! THANK YOU SIR!!!!

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

Awesome! 👍 Thanks for watching!

[@waynerogers5485]

Thanks for the walk-thru on this. Very clear and concise. Good job.

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

Glad you enjoyed it Wayne!

[@philipdavidson6905]

I have a RA2 haven't used it yet this video is going to help, thanks

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

Welcome Philip.

[@lonniedupont]

Very informative. I need to get a rotary.

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

You should Lonnie!

[@merrillalbury8214]

The second one was clear and nice. The pink one looked good also but, as you said, hard to see.

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

They are hard to see Merrill, but I do love the rose gold!

[@jimmccall4599]

great video yoda, i have struggled with the logo on a tumbler. thanks for clearing that up.

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

Happy to help Jim! 👍

[@the369truth]

Another awesome video thanks Rich.

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

My pleasure!!

[@robmills4709]

Great video Rich, excellent results. Thanks for another roller video.

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

You bet Rob, thanks for watching!

[@snailturbo2028]

... and something I wanted to say to you sooo many times already - THANK YOU! 😀

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

No problem 😊

[@IanFlyinGremlinRCNZ]

Well that was very informative video, and you made it so easy to understand, I was able to follow so easy. One day soon I will get my roller set up on the laser, I am in the process of making the box for the 2nd laser, and then my 1st laser will be set up for roller, and 2nd laser for flat work.

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

Awesome, that sounds like a plan Ian!

[@Nolen702]

Huge thank you to LAhobbyguy this was very informative! Once again life saver for the beginner laser engravers!!

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

Glad it was helpful Brian!

[@paulwood2210]

Love your channel!

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

Thanks Paul! 👍

[@UncleRons_3D_Pub]

Thanks for sharing, awesome and informative video. Just wanted to say for those that may be 'math-phobic' the positioning could also be done by centering 1 graphic in the print area, centering the 2nd graphic on either of the ends of the workspace, then click both graphics and slide left or right until it is all within the workspace, without math, they are now 180 degrees our from each other

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

Whatever works for you Ron! I like having them exactly positioned.

[@williammckee4369]

great information again. very complete. thanks

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

Glad it was helpful William!

[@prekoysaus9658]

Hi LA Hobby Guy I love the Nurse life design can you share that for me I want to make my daughter that design she is studying nursing, thank you in advance.

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

This was over a year ago. I have hundreds of libraries; I wouldn't know where to start looking for it.

[@davidelder5399]

Another great video Rich! Thanks for taking the time to make such an informative video 👍 great job

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

Glad you enjoyed it David, thanks!

[@sonofabiker7283]

Thank you for your videos so so helpful

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

Glad you like them!

[@rickieboyd5769]

Another great informative video...Thanks!

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

Glad you liked it Rickie!

[@SunshineDesignsViera]

This is a great video. Thank you! For some reason I can’t wrap my brain around how to do a 3 sided glass. Any insight? Thank you.

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

I've never done one Erin, but the same principals should apply.

[@3DogsCustomEngraving]

Another GREAT instructional video Rich Could you please provide the link for your honeybed hold down pins?

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

They're free in my online store. engraveandcutfiles.com

[@kevinstrickland6314]

Awesome video! I'm over here trying to break put all sorts of formulas to get the other side positioned correctly 🤣 on thing I did find is doing round logos... make the width 10% wider to give the effect of if being round on the mug...I'm Still trying to figure out speed current running 3000mms/80%power and its still not giving a "shiny stainless" but more of an engraved metal look...using Atomstack stack x20

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

I usually use the 8-10% rule on tapered tumblers, but these weren't tapered very much. I was just off 1mm on the steps Kevin.

[@kevinstrickland6314]

@@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy you make it look easy, I will say that 🤙

[@TheRoadRoamer]

I thought your original video’s explanation was REALLY good, with the four boxes then getting rid of the middle two boxes. But then again I’m a Math guy. ;-)

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

Whatever works for you!

[@tiarerush1895]

Can you do a full wrap design?

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

I have done them. You simply size the graphic to the circumference of the tumbler.

[@tiarerush1895]

Thank you for replying. I've been struggling to get my 20w fiber and my roller tumbler to work with lightburn. The manufacturer help is atrocious.

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

If you need help with a fiber setup, Patrick from Lightsource,pro has paid one-on-one remote help. [e-mail]

[@Sou1Daddy]

Any chance you could make a universal test card for the roller? BTW hello, I have been watching and following your videos you are amazing keep up the great work

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

The UTC and be used on any material Scott.

[@justinhamrick1099]

So I was wondering where you went? I subscribed to your channel a few months ago! Where you helped us with lightburn and you have graciously gave us some files to play with. I work two jobs and I had to manually look up your name through search and seen the subscribe icon?

[@justinhamrick1099]

I didn’t delete it

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

KZbin does that to me too!

[@raider6511]

Do you have a video about the DEWALLIE Rotary?? The only video I found about it was from someone that didn't speak English so I couldn't understand what he was sayin.

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

My last video was with the Dewallie roller.

[@raider6511]

@@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Yes, but it didn't show the setup from unpacking to engraving with it.

[@tinarichardson8085]

I didn’t catch you explaining that you need to flip the design 90 degrees to match how your rotary is sitting? Sometimes you need to mirror the image-I don’t understand how to know when to do that.

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

When you run your first test you'll know. Most China rollers require the image to be mirrored in the rotary setup Tina.

[@TheAvproman]

This is a great video!

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

Glad you think so, thank you!

[@garthlemere3245]

I am not sure what I am doing wrong. My circle designs come out skewed really bad. Using D1 and roller that came with it. HELP

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

Skewed images means your steps per rotation are wrong in the rotary setup Garth.

[@dougbennett1275]

Thanks for another great video Rich. I use an Ortur Master 2 Pro with an Ortur YRR and suffer from slight slippage in the Y (rotational) direction. I tried your suggestion of "Fill Shapes Individually", but found that "Fill all shapes at Once" and "Fill Groups Together" resulted in a no unwanted movement in the Y direction, so less chance to slip. We've discussed it previously in relation to a separate issue, but I engrave wood and like a line after fill to really make my text and graphics crisp. This is where I suffer a slight mismatch between engrave and line. The problem is that Lightburn wants to complete the full engrave before starting the line and therefore the YRR rotates the work all the way back to the beginning before starting the line and hence sometimes a mismatch in the Y direction. I have been searching for a setting which causes the line to be burned immediately after a section of graphics or text letter has been burned. Other than putting each section or letter on a different layer, which is sometimes impossible, I can't seem to find a way.

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

I don't know of one Doug, but the speed on the move tab should solve the problem.

[@dougbennett1275]

@@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy I keep any settings associated with movement in the Y direction to quite low values. e.g. Accel' Y ($121). I leave my woodturning in the big heavy lathe chuck which I rest on the 2 rollers of the YRR. I prevent any movement in the X direction by a small magnet, so it's never going to fly off like a tumbler might. With relevant settings slowed down, I don't have much of a problem these days. I may get a stepper motor driven chuck device one day.🙂

[@jimmccall4599]

@Doug Bennett I had that same issue, so I went to the dollar store and picked up some double sided tape , I make complete wrap around the tumbler where it is not in the way of the burn. Once I have it on I run my hands around the tape so it's not so sticky works great

[@dougbennett1275]

@@jimmccall4599 Thanks for the tip. I've not tried the double-sided tape. I did try some spray glue on the rollers which helped. It's a shame we can't get Lightburn to do the line along with the fill, rather than completely before or after.

[@jerzy2732]

Dzień dobry, mam pytanie. Jak wyłączyć alarmy przy OLM2 Pro? Włączają się bez powodu. Good morning, l have a question. How to turn off alarms on OLM2 Pro? They turn on for no reason. l live in Poland.

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

$X on the console tab cancels the alarm, but you can't turn them off.

[@jerzy2732]

@@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Dzień dobry, dziękuje za szybka odpowiedz. Życzę powodzenia .😉😊

[@Unique4engravings]

Can this been done on a fiber laser i tried and it says im out of bounds with my rotary when i try double sided?

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

I haven't used the rotary on the fiber Britny, so I can't say.

[@Nomadic.A]

So if I'm working with a tumbler with a screw top lid, I line up the laser head with the mouth of the tumbler lid, and put the origin as right center? (piburn and thunder laser, design flipped 90 degrees different from yours)... thanks for this video... will be experimenting tomorrow - have 100 double sided to do so this will save a ton of time.

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

That should work for you Heather.

[@Nomadic.A]

About to send this to my laser, but the green dot is between the images that will be back and front of my tumbler. I'm having a hard time visualizing what you said about lining the image and laser head up with the logo (in my case the igloo logo = mouth of the tumbler). If the green start point end up between the images, wouldn't I need to find the center between the mouth and back of the tumbler?

[@Nomadic.A]

@@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy have to do a 90 degree turn to make it work, but got it.

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

Glad to hear it Heather! Yeah, different rollers will have different settings.

[@usafdummy]

Hey Rich would that also work with the Roller set up or would the numbers be different?

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

That was a roller setup Ken.

[@usafdummy]

😅Sorry, I guess I was watching the video to close cause on the rotary set you had chuck clicked. I didn't know if that made a difference, cause I was use a chuck and each side came out oval. Thanks

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

If the graphic is oval, your steps per mm are off Ken.

[@brockla9]

I was wondering how you engrave a tumbler one side of a 30oz yeti tumbler up top in the big area then, on the other side, down on the bottom where it would go into the cup holder? is it the same principle as the video above? thank you in advance

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

Yup, I did one that way in the video.

[@brockla9]

@@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy ok thank you

[@dennisreichert7688]

Hey if from Hammond LA. Can Lightburn be used with my glowforge?

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

No Dennis, GlowForge uses proprietary software.

[@therambler3833]

Hi i wanted to ask u i want to add a roller to my neje 3 max can i use anyone available like xtool i cant find anything on this Thanks for all your great video i learning lots from your channel

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

The xTool RA2 roller comes with adapters, so yes, you can use that one.

[@therambler3833]

@@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy thank u Rich

[@chrisbrophy2818]

I am using Piburn 4.0 with Omtech 60w mf. Do you need to find steps for each individual product and change rotation steps at each job or is there a way of setting the steps to change automatically. ie My steps for 30oz tumbler are 5100 while 20oz is 5250. I have tried changing diameter only but rotation is off unless I change steps. Do I need to calculate steps for every product I engrave with rotary?

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

You'll need to contact PiBurn for that question Chris; I don't own one. I don't have to change my steps per rotation on any of my rotary devices.

[@chrisbrophy2818]

@@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Thanks for the quick response I have reached out to Piburn support.

[@DavesCave]

Curious why the chuck is not 180° around on the rotary tool. If the tumbler was over the ‘bed’ you would not need the drill as a counter balance. I’ve no experience yet with rotary tools so there may be something I’m totally missing Great demo as always

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

Because it's based on the mm/min the stepper motor moves. The roller is setup this way because I do a lot of cups with handles.

[@HubicGaming]

Can a the ortur pro 2 sf 5.5 output engrave on tumbler well?

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

Yes it can.

[@HubicGaming]

@@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy thank you

[@23names]

I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO FIND AN ANSWER, IN THE LIGHTBURN, I WOULD LIKE TO SLOW THE SPEED THE LASER MOVES, WHEN IT IS TRACING/OUTLINING (LOW POWER) AN AREA BEFORE ENGRAVING OR CUTTING, IT MOVES WAY TOO FAST AND THE LASER HAS SLAMMED IN TO THE FRAME, ITS HAPPENED TOO MANY TIMES, LASER GRBL MOVES SLOW ENOUGH THAT I DONT HAVE THAT PROBLEM, HOW WOULD I SLOW THAT SPEED DOWN, I HAVE PUT OFF USING LIGHTBURN BECAUSE OF THAT, I HAVE ATOMSTACK A5, ONCE I CAN SLOW THAT SPEED DOWN THEN I CAN REALLY START USING LIGHTBURN, UNTIL I CAN FIND OUT HOW TO CHANGE THAT SPEED, I DONT WANT TO USE IT AND TAKE A CHANCE OF SLAMMING THE LASER SO HARD IN TO THE RAIL, THE LASER WILL BECOME DAMAGED

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

It's in the video. On the move tab.

[@23names]

@@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy THANK YOU, I SAW HOW TO DO THAT IN THE VIDEO AFTER I POSTED MY COMMENT (QUESTION), THANK YOU AGAIN, GREAT JOB ON THE VIDEO

[@P1stola86]

On a 10w laser, what speed (mm/min) and power do you recommend?

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

I don't recommend speeds and power. I always sacrifice one piece to run a power grid on.

[@P1stola86]

@@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy i have and they all end looking dark or matte. I have tried windex and baking soda and works great. Will also try isopropyl alcohol. Was just wondering a ballpark range or tip to make it easier to clean on painted tumblers

[@snailturbo2028]

Why dont you align logo to small squares by menu? Any Ctrl+Arrow keys work would be eliminated.....

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

Yup, more than one than one to do it, that's for sure!

[@Monztuh]

Don't you need to turn everything 90° if you're using a rotary? Or is it not needed since the rotary itself is turned?

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

It depends on the roller and the direction of the stepper motor Monztuh. Always do a test. I will usually wrap the item in tape and run the job at very low power to make sure.

[@Monztuh]

​@@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy ah ok got you. I have another question. Is it necessary to mirror the image option in the rotary whenever using a rotary device? Also is there any difference between the absolute coordinates current position and starting origin options when using a rotary compared to not using one?

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

It depends on the rotary and the position of the stepper motor. You use current position.

[@gopacktoo]

You could just enter /4 in your width and lightburn will calculate for you. Don’t need calculator.

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

Yes Tom, I'm getting old so I forget these things and many others during the recording! 🤪

[@texmextrol]

You can actually do the math within lightburn. In the width you can add /4 at the end of 188.496 then press enter and it'll give you 47.124. You can also do stuff like (10+5)*2 and it'll give you 30. I can't think off the top of my head why you would need the second option but as I was typing this I thought "Wait, can you do more complex formulas?" and you turns out you can.

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

Yes, I know, I'm just used to using the calc 🤪

[@rebeltaz123]

I like watching your videos, but the fact that your wife's name is Evelyn makes it that muhc better. So is mine :) Her nickname is Elevyn, though.

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

It's not a popular name Derek.

[@coulterjb22]

How do you setup a double-sided tumbler? Just kidding, great stuff!

[@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy]

Thanks for watching!