The Ultimate Guide to the Engineers Badge Exchange - Crossout Basics

[@grumpyhermit8657]

now why didn't you put in the coin value per badge of the crates which is kinda the whole point of getting the best value out of badges. .092 for purple and .071 for blue. which goes to show that statistically the best bang for your buck will always be to open a purple crate and sell the item. that being said this is also the best way of powering up for new players as if you are prepared when you open the crate you can reroll the result quite cheaply the first time to get a higher price item or more importantly a purple that you actually want to use as you then dont need to deduct the 10% market fee. after a while of playing crossout this will also be a good source for getting items for fusion. lets face it if you havent fused your seal you arent making the most of crossout lol

[@TCS23]

tbh, this video took me way longer than I expected so I just went with probability numbers rather than exchange value for the crates. Thanks for including those numbers in your comments, I'll be sure to pin it for everyone to benefit!

[@Rajdweep]

Yes good point opening the epic crate is most times more profitable thn rest of the ways

[@maxlordplayz5066]

Lol yesterday I just thought I will try to get the epic crate 😀

[@ericlewis3444]

blue is .0719, better than scrap but worse than batteries on week 0. purple is .0927 with a 60% chance to get up to .121, which is by FAR the best deal. and in this case, saving to sell purple crates is always the best rate and the safest route.

[@ericlewis3444]

also, you can't sell fused items and, in my opinion, fused items are quickly surpassed by better items that can be bought - so never worth it to me.

[@Derakon_]

This video is incredibly helpful and useful, and I think I speak for everyone when I say that you have our gratitude!

[@TCS23]

Thanks so much! 😃

[@Scaramouche122]

not really best way to get numbers is to divide money cost of item badge count and compair the coefficients

[@marklevensalor5078]

Well done! Thanks for doing the math for those who never looked into doing if for themselves. You earned at least one subscriber today. I'm a long-time player, with tons of scrap and copper. (Do your dailies folks!) I'm also sitting on about 80k badges. (Do your weeklies folks!) I generally don't open weekly or veteran crates as they really don't have anything for me. I have 50+ of each in storage. The only thing I ever really spend badges on are raid resources, which I don't farm anymore because I'm hoarding fuel now too. (Fill your fuel barrels folks!)

[@TCS23]

Awesome! I totally agree with your advice. Do what this man says folks! 👍

[@pwnzerelli]

good work man thank you, this game has such little info for new and mid range players, my favorite game still after all these years and really appreciate the folk in the community keeping it alive. See you out there, Pwnzerelli ps. not alot of info for vets too, i learning alot

[@TCS23]

Thanks man. I agree, there's not a lot of guides for Crossout available. I'm looking to change that, and also add some other content as well. 🙂

[@AGBRIELMO]

Keep pushing, youre the best crossout content creator by now!!!!

[@TCS23]

Thanks for the encouragement Gabe! 👍

[@commander_rex5673]

Just started playing Crossout 2 weeks ago and I absolutely love your builds. Keep it up! Having trouble figuring prices on console though

[@TCS23]

Thanks man! The process is the same, you just have to do your own math. If you follow the same method in the video it should give you the answer you need.

[@themelting9696]

What system you on?

[@commander_rex5673]

@@themelting9696 PS4, I figured it out. Now making a grand a week. Not much but kinda fine.

[@TCS23]

@@themelting9696 PC

[@outandabout259]

I watched one video. Then I watched this. Less than halfway through, I just had to subscribe. This channel seems like a perfect place for a beginner like myself!

[@TCS23]

Thanks! I'm glad you are enjoying it. 🙂 I have more videos planned, so stay tuned!

[@outandabout259]

@@TCS23 absolutely!

[@nah5511]

Nice vid man hope ppl see this, keep up the good work.

[@TCS23]

Thanks for the comment!

[@devontae7262]

Good bitmoji, I think if it costs more badges then it's a slightly better deal in bulk.

[@TCS23]

lol, thanks. Yeah, whatever works for each player. 🙂

[@hcmarcel87]

Thanks for this amazing guide man, appreciate it !!

[@TCS23]

Happy to share. 🙂

[@TheKOO4]

what we waited for :D Thx!

[@TCS23]

Happy to help!

[@JBRider]

I got a fuze drone last time i opened my crate -_-. Anyways Super informative video man i knew all this stuff was just lazy to do the math and tracking and checking items. You put in a lot of work into this

[@TCS23]

Thanks JB! That means a lot coming from you. 👍 also, bummer about the fuze drone. 😕

[@Gamer12666]

With math simplified like this and builds with tips on how to effectively run certain modes, as well as which modes make the most profit... how do you only have 955 subscribers?

[@TCS23]

lol, thanks man! I've been super happy with the amount of subs and support I have received so far, so it's all good. 🙂

[@themelting9696]

Because it's a bit late and the game is in a funky place, not many new players stay sadly.

[@dado_ii8540]

only exchange for ressources, when you get their max amount in the rotation, since you get the most for you badges then: 500 scrap metal or copper 200 wires or batteries 100 plastic or electronics

[@thijsverhagen1606]

Great video! Keep making them.

[@TCS23]

Thanks, I appreciate that! 🙂

[@Warsun-Warspike]

🍺Cool vid, thanks TCS23🍺

[@TCS23]

Thanks!

[@beesechurger9469]

Poor guy crunching numbers again. Glad he didn’t give up.

[@normundsozolins2391]

might be better to save up more engineer badges to get an item more worth per engineer badge than the resources to craft items. it does make sense since people need to have many more things to craft them, even having weapons of some kind to craft a rarer weapon. there is little difference in getting things faster because you have more effective eqiupment, so just save up for the epic container and don't let the overexcitement of your next upgrade on your vehicle make you buy the resources with less engineer badges required. you still can up your game by having a fuel barrel to give you an extra 0.25$ worth of fuel if you managed to survive, or 0.5$ with a fuel tank managing to survive. after 100 matches with your vehicle intact, you do get a 50$ from the fuel tank. if you make your very long use of the fuel tank after grinding a lot, you could probably profit with it. if you place your fuel barrel in a spot where it can't really affect your vehicle from blowing up, or hide it so it rarely even gets destroyed, i do see some use from it, and being more desperate to survive since you have a fuel bonus if you do, makes you play even better probably.

[@TCS23]

Winning missions with both fuel containers intact is the primary goal imo. Without that fuel you are really losing money when you play Raids to earn Engineer Badges.

[@normundsozolins2391]

yeah, especially if you don't get enough daily fuel to get engineer badges for this week.

[@TCS23]

@@normundsozolins2391 Exactly.

[@old-moose]

Very interesting! THanks.

[@TCS23]

Happy to share. 🙂

[@Sid8303]

Great content brother

[@TCS23]

Thanks Sid!

[@rogerp.2442]

Great research, keep up the good work. But now that you’ve mapped out the fundamentals, just use CrossoutDB if you’re on PC for up-to-date values and what is currently most profitable, it does the math for you. It might be a valuable thing to do a video about for newer players actually, if you haven’t spent the time doing the math like you did, the CrossoutDB can be somewhat hard to understand. It is very much worth learning how to use though.

[@TCS23]

Yes, CrossoutDB is a great resource for PC players, you should definitely make good use of it!

[@j.j._]

I love getting a "free" purple crate every 2 weeks. It really helped when i 1st started.

[@TCS23]

Indeed, I'm actually working up a new video specifically about that crate. 🙂

[@j.j._]

@@TCS23im not a fan of getting customization modules and range decor. I wish they would go back to giving out the simple blue crate. I think it was the miner crate.

[@TCS23]

@@j.j._ Yeah, it's just one less way to earn free money in the game. 😕

[@msrtaha6174]

that's good.. but which is better, spending the badges to get materials and sell them or buy the crate and sell/open then sell weapon?

[@TCS23]

That's what the chart is supposed to tell you. Generally speaking, it's better to sell the crate items than resources exchange items. Occasionally Electronics will sell for more but it depends on what the market values are for that time period.

[@_fank_7128]

idk, i dont really farm badge points, even tho its rly worth it, i really dont feel like going for them i often just trade them for a bit of scrap if i need it to craft anything

[@TCS23]

If that works for you then keep doing what you're doing. 🙂

[@evilsworshipper6797]

In the console store things cost much more (most epics cost atleast 500 and some can pass 1000) so i assume its better for me to get the crate rather than the materials.

[@TCS23]

It depends, you may have to do a little math, but you can use the same process I show in the video to be sure you are getting the best value. Prices are always fluctuating so their is no set value, this video is more of a gauge to go by.

[@jamesscott2092]

Hey you know in the badge exchange some have clocks and some dont, do all the things reroll when the time comes or only the ones with the clocks?

[@TCS23]

Hey James, sorry for the late reply. Only the resources with timers will be reset. The rest should remain in place.

[@jamesscott2092]

@@TCS23 Thanks!

[@dantheonwarshade8986]

Its a good idea to set the video speed to 1.25

[@savagegoose6018]

tanks for all the hard work

[@TCS23]

Happy to share. 🙂

[@jesseholloway7714]

Stonks

[@Marcell_Gallo]

Good guide, but you made a little mistake with the purple box. The Thunderbolt shotgun has also a bigger price, than the container itself, but you count as a cheaper item. So the result is 64% of the items are better than the container. It's almost 2/3 ratio, and if you opened something cheap around 200 credits, you can reroll for 1000 scrap (about 35 credits) at the firs time (the second and the third rerolls are 2000 and 3000 scraps, so try to avoid to reroll that much). All in all I highly recommend to open the containers.

[@TCS23]

You're right, good catch on the Thunderbolt! The reality is that market prices are always fluctuating, so this guide is not meant to be the final say in market values or probability. It's more of a reference to go by and to show players (especially on console) a method for calculating the numbers. Thanks for pointing out the reroll option as well! I'm just glad I didn't call this the "PERFECT GUIDE". 😂

[@Marcell_Gallo]

@@TCS23 😂 You're right, market prices are everything, but fixed. Btw the calculation method you use works perfectly. 😉

[@TCS23]

@@Marcell_Gallo Thanks man!

[@FormationFaceroll]

Just a nitpick here but when opening a crate what you're interested in isn't the chance to get a higher value item but the average price of all items included in the chests. Example: A chest is worth 300c, 15 of the items are worth 50c and 10 of them are worth 800c. After all market fees applied. The chance of getting a higher price item is: 10 / 25 = 0.4 = 40% so according to what was said in the video, selling the box directly would be better. What you're interested in however is the expected value of opening a box which is: (15 * 50c + 10 * 800c) / 25 = 350c so opening the box ON AVERAGE will give you more value even if the chance of getting a higher value item is lower than 50% These numbers are just an example and are pretty extreme I'm aware but I hope it proves my point. The chance of getting a higher value item is purely an indicator of risk. The expected value goes both ways, swap some numbers around and you get an outcome where the chance of getting a higher value item is more than 50% but the expected value is lower than the boxes actual price. As an addition, you can even factor in the cost of rerolling your chest outcome for scrap (IIRC that's a thing) into the expected value but my brain is too small for that I'm afraid. This might only be relevant if there appear outliers in the crates at some point that are far above or below the average. Other than that, thanks A LOT for the video, great work. Just thought this very minor nitpick is worth noting and looking at the prices it will only slightly affect the outcome anyways but might be important later in the lifetime of crossout.

[@TCS23]

Hey man, thanks for the feedback! I'm glad you broke down how to get the answer, I wasn't sure exactly how to go about it. I recently checked on the PF Crate values and they are a lot different than they were when I made this video, so I'm thinking about making an update.

[@EvanMoon]

It is so easy to just sit down and play the game winning scrap metal whether you win or lose and then you can sell it. Then save enough money can buy the pieces that you really want instead of building all the pieces that you have to craft in order to craft the final thing

[@TCS23]

Yeah, it's nice that there are different options for acquiring the items you want. 🙂

[@snugg1escat676]

Shouldn't you be using expected earnings instead of probability of a profit? What if the potential profit is low and the potential loss high. Eg you have a 60% to profit between 10 and 25 coins and a 40% to lose 30-100 coins. Expected earnings should account for that. PS. Do you have a discord server? I'd really want to join it

[@TCS23]

That's a great point! I'm pretty sure I have the data to provide that answer, specifically for the Pathfinder Crate, but after 2 weeks I didn't feel like working on this video anymore, tbh. 😄 I did set up a discord server, but it's not in use. I don't know Discord that well so it's on the back burner for now.

[@snugg1escat676]

@@TCS23 what I would likely do is program it into an excel spread sheet, then all you would need to do is input the market prices for each item. The dream would be for an API to input the prices for me. I could try help you with discord, I'm not the best myself but have a bunch of tech savvy friends.

[@TCS23]

@@snugg1escat676 Yeah, all my data is in Google Sheets with a few formulas to calculate percentages and what not. I really just know enough to get by, and I can easily forget it all if I don't use it in like a month. As for Discord, I'm still debating whether or not I wanna use it. I find it rather difficult to navigate and I'm not sure I wanna manage something I rarely use. I'll have to think about it.

[@JefersonHengler]

Scrap in PS4 is 12.50

[@oreosmith2862]

Good feature

[@TCS23]

Thanks! 🙂

[@Papascorch7969]

Jeez i play on ps4 and trying to play on my new pc but dam the price range for the the big purple cannon compared to ps4 is crazy since its like 600 there while pc its not even 300

[@TCS23]

Yeah, the price gap topic is a common thread on a lot of the videos I've posted.

[@tommyvice5463]

can u research weapons reload system(with engines and cabins bonuses) I tried porcs with colossus(20%) and omnibox(15%) porc´s 3 sec reload time should've been 1.95 after those double bonuses(-35%) but it seems like more than 2 sec) may be I´m wrong, but feels like more than 2 sec... Idk man...:D can u check it out?Crossout doesn´t giving us any accurate detailed informations in numbers (lazy b...ards), so thanks for nice explaining content & gl

[@TCS23]

Hey man, that's a great suggestion! Currently I'm limited on parts, since I'm primarily a free-to-play player. However, once I reach 500 subs I can apply for a promo account which would give me access to those parts and more content options. So we'll see how it goes.

[@polskistalker]

@@TCS23 if you have time you can search builds in exhibition. Often you can find exactly needed combo to test

[@TCS23]

Good point. I think I'll wait for now, especially since I have other videos planned for right now.

[@Deimos_Eris]

You didnt do a overhaul value for each badge units thats the most important thing to do and wich option as the most value

[@TCS23]

The values are always changing, so I decided to explain how to calculate these rates, that way you can decide for yourself what you want to exchange.

[@celestrianet4046]

pog

[@Retrad_]

your maths on the purple crate is off it doesn't account for how much profit or loss selling an item gives you if you have 90% chance to make 1 gold and 10% chance to lose 20, you'll lose money, even if you mostly make profits maybe averaging the items would give a better representation? EDIT: you make an average of 19 gold on the purple crate if you average all the parts youcan get from it, opening the crate will probably give you about 20 coins more than selling it

[@TCS23]

Thanks for taking the time to do the math and sharing the numbers! Making these videos takes a lot of time and it's easy to miss some of the details.

[@LikeTheEcho]

i save for epic container weekly.. just farm resources and sell the item inside the box.. ez

[@TCS23]

Nice! Yeah, everyone seems to have their preference when it comes to the badge exchange, I just wanted to show the available options.

[@gabrielionescu9816]

Best price its plastic !800 be 125 elect=88 c and 740 be plast200 =133c

[@grumpyhermit8657]

PS4 players..... wait what!!!!??? we pay triple those prices lol

[@cyanessence420]

So does xbox. A stack of scrap is like 12-15 coins.

[@LikeTheEcho]

save for thhe purple container

[@desert-killer1116]

Bro in PS4 the scrap sells at 11'5

[@TCS23]

Yes, console prices vary quite differently than PC prices. But if you follow the same method of math using console prices it will give you the answers you need.

[@desert-killer1116]

@@TCS23 Thanks! Like your vids

[@TCS23]

@@desert-killer1116 Thanks!

[@gizel4376]

wtf with the price, i never saw scrap so low, not even close to that, and when i look at all time stats, it's not, i get it, the video is old and outdated, but that have change a lot it's insane

[@TCS23]

Are you on console? that could be why. 🤷

[@gizel4376]

@@TCS23 no i'm on pc and when i look at all time average it's 6$ on sale and 5.95 on buy

[@TCS23]

@@gizel4376 Wow, yeah, I guess things have inflated a bit. 😂

[@Deimos_Eris]

Im really sorry but the video wasn't helpful but thanks for the video we need more guy like you to do good crossout tips video

[@TCS23]

I'm sorry I couldn't be more helpful to you.

[@XNastybudhaX]

The prices on PC and xbox are completely different. Xbox is way way way more expensive. Xbox just wishes we could have the same market prices as PC players.

[@TCS23]

Yeah, I hear that a lot from console players. I would change it if I could!