The Ultimate Gun Brown Bear / Grizzly Hunting

The Ultimate Guns For Hunting Brown Bear and Grizzly Bear. Alaska Bear Hunting With Grizzinator

[@tmut44]

I like the 300 win mag

[@LuvBorderCollies]

Very good comments. Haven't hunted bear but a lot of western So.Dakota well-fed mule deer. I totally 110% agree on bullet performance. I've not seen any advantage of "premium" bullets except take money away. Even old standard factory bullets may not open up and shock. Case in mind....243 Win with Rem 100grn soft point CoreLokt. Nice broadside at 200 yds, a tiny little 6mm hole going in and a .30 cal going out. Deer did not react but I knew I hit the lungs up front. So, I'm sure the Rem CoreLokt expanded like they show in magazine ads. My foot doc loves black and brown bear hunting. Blacks in northern Idaho and rest in Alaska. He takes a 30-06 because you find ammo everywhere for it. Something about an airline messing up luggage and leaving him without ammo. His second favorite rifle is the Savage lever action in 358 Win. He loves how the 358 performs on game. One more example to go with your bullet advice. About 24 years ago I read a story about a 30-06 hunter. He switched to 220gr round nose and he noticed right away the performance was much worse than his usual 180gr bullets. Long story short> the 220gr .30 cal bullets were too slow. Just poked holes.

[@robertgehringer6162]

I don't know who this gentleman is but he is spot on !! Not arrogant or "cocky" know it all arm chair expert Going to Alaska Brown/Grizzly bear hunting ??. Look no further just take his word for it !!

[@robertgehringer6162]

@@dalebenson6859 what do I call your rifle and choice of bullets ?? Answer is...a poor choice

[@montuckyman4982]

@@dalebenson6859 That cartridge is wonderful for bears. But why use a hard copper bullet on bears which are quite soft and generally easy to kill? Barnes type bullets can obviously kill anything and everything but your neutering that rifles damage potential? Sure, that hard bullet will penetrate very well but how far into the dirt do you want to shoot. Monos make narrow deep wound channels.

[@gregjennen2271]

Spot on. Monolithic bullets are leaving most of a cartridged killing effect on the table.

[@ronfleck2802]

Great info

[@rdaugherty52]

I see someone else commented on the Whelen I have 2 and love them I have a 375 but still like the 35 best reload with 225 grain corbon or partition at 2900 fps I added weight to my rifle and it right at 10 lbs at 100 yds it puts m through the same hole yep love it haven’t shot a bear though.

[@FernandoDuarte-xb6lf]

Thsnk you for your very helpful video, I live in bear territory, Alaska, and your video and comments are always very wise and helpful, I really appreciate it.

[@user-eg8hb8xt3j]

I like my 35 Whelen . 225 grain accubonds moving 2800 at the muzzle . I run 250 grain partitions as well. The accubonds give me 1800foot pounds at 500 yards and 3900 at the muzzle . It knocks the snot out of anything it hits . the rifle was built on a Remington 700 action , Wilson stainless barrel and a McMillan stock . It’s topped off with a 2.5-10x44 vortex hs . Weighs about 8.7 pounds loaded . I use this rifle for everything from deer to elk to bears .

[@gregjennen2271]

A 35 Whelen is an excellent brown bear caliber for close range. The bears don't know it isn't an H&H.

[@richardwest1952]

My offensive rifle is a 338 Win Mag and my defensive rifle is a 45/70 guide gun. I killed an 8 ft grizzly with the 338, it is plenty of gun.

[@robertgehringer6162]

Great choices IMO...the 338 win mag with a 250 grain lead bullet such as a Remington Core Lok is the ideal bear gun

[@gregjennen2271]

All good

[@patriciamunro493]

Foot pounds of energy is something I would consider

[@Swampytheroot]

So, 338 Federal or heavy 308 is undergunned? Just a question. Never faced a big bear other than with 1600fps 12 gauge solids

[@gregjennen2271]

A 308 is definitely undergunned do to the low velocity with the 180-200gr bullets. A 338 Fed or 358 Win have a significant velocity jump over the 308 with 200 class bullets. Neither I'd recommend as a primary but close up they both will dump a huge brown bear like a sack of shit. I've done it many times. With the fast follow ups it's easy to get carried away. Sometimes it's hard to rein yourself in when shooting a wounded bear at 10yds or so. It's important to know when they've had enough so-as to not sound like your storming Normandy. I'm not saying pouring on the lead is bad but it can appear radical if you're not someone who can exercise self control in the heat of it.

[@colin8477]

​@dalebenson6859 What about for bear defense? Given the fact people have stopped and killed grizzlies with handguns in 9mm, .38, .40, .45, with almost 100% success rate, wouldn't something like a 10mm carbine or a semi-auto 7.62x39 be adequate? Edit: I ask about 10mm carbine because in Canada you can have a 10 rnd magazine in pistol caliber but max 5 rnds of rifle caliber lol

[@YOURMOMCALLSME]

​@@gregjennen2271have taken 3 over the years with 30-30 single shot on each.

[@YOURMOMCALLSME]

​@@gregjennen2271 my prefered caliber for bear is 45-70

[@justinriley8651]

those are to light for grizzley bears! they will kill one for sure but if you miss place your bullet your gonna be in trouble! not much margin for error with those little guys

[@patriciamunro493]

I would recommend 175 grain and up

[@wilhelmkeyser5393]

I personally hate copper bullits and will never use them again. Sound advice he gave.

[@gregjennen2271]

People get emotionally attached despite the fact that they're essentially the worst choice aside from maybe a solid.

[@user-iw5ce9px3f]

338 Federal or 338 Win. mag ? How about 35 Whelen ?

[@gerardcorreale7760]

so what grain would you recommend for winchester 338 mag and type bullet in federal premium?

[@erickschmidt432]

Hard to beat the 250 grain Nosler Partition

[@gregjennen2271]

It depends. For close range tracking or near shots (inside 150yds) something that expands reliable but doesn't "pop". 225-250 accubond will shoot right through a big brown bear but still shed enough weight to do real damage.

[@gerardcorreale7760]

@@gregjennen2271 thnk you for ur help, very much appriciated

[@DEVILDOG1964]

.338 win mag 250 grain nosler partitions!!

[@andrefrank8270]

Clear stay alive stuff regards

[@Kinetic.44]

Accuracy > power. Every single time.

[@erichermann7553]

How about my 9.3x62 I love it

[@gregjennen2271]

Not the best choice for a primary weapon. Could be fine in the bushes depending on rifle configuration.

[@bigjon576]

​@@gregjennen2271lol how? Relatively long shots can be taken with the 9,3x62..

[@russellkeeling4387]

Great choice. This is just the kind of prey that rifle was designed for. A 250 grain bullet at 2600 fps is not just a close range rifle and has lots of energy at a distance.

[@johnbravo1005]

Good video. Get a camera stand. I was getting sea sick watching

[@jasonlopez4855]

I just like to take DPMS LR-308 to hunting brown bear's would be the smallest for me But I'm use to it.

[@solarlion144]

​@dalebenson6859 do they feed reliably in the wsm loads due to the taper angle?

[@gregjennen2271]

@solarlion Nope. Not really. They can be made sort of reliable but that's a chore. 358 Win in an AR10 platform is about as good as it gets.

[@solarlion144]

@gregjennen2271 ok Thank-you for the advise. . I'll look into it

[@solarlion144]

@gregjennen2271 what about 338 federal in an ar10?

[@gregjennen2271]

338 Fed is very good for close range. The bonus is ease of good factory ammo. 200gr bullets at around 2,700fps is perfectly adequate.

[@wilmamcdermott3065]

So my 338 lapua is a good caliber

[@JustMike2791]

All day and night. Your Lapua is more than sufficent. I carry for hunting a .340 Weatherby with a 3.5-9x50 Leupold using 225 grain Barnes TTSX which will kill a bear easily. However, if I'm in thick stuff, it's a Marlin 1895 SBL 45-70 with 300 grain hard cast rounds. It's an utterly devastating round to a bear.

[@montuckyman4982]

Yes. If you can shoot it well. That's the most important part.

[@gregjennen2271]

A 338 Lapua is fine. Not really a jump above most of the other 33cal magnums but certainly good.

[@mikegags9115]

Could I use a 300 RUM. I currently use a 190 grain Burger VLD

[@jameshunter3037]

no of course u cannot, the bullets just bounce off like spit wades from a straw. u must only use missiles or rocket launchers. all jokes asides. it all depends on what your hunting, of course. it depends on bullets, and most importantly, shot placement. if your hunting deer or pig, u really don't need a 300 rum. even for elk or moose or bear, (u may want a 300 rum because its most assuring) that is unless u like the assault on your shoulder. from the unnecessary recoil of the rum. no creature on earth is going to know the difference between a 300 rum or a 7mm rem mag if you hit them in the boiler room. at 300 or so yards a good old .308 from a semi auto or bolt gun will do what any magnum will do and save you much pain, along with saving you $$ on ammo or reloading

[@jameshunter3037]

best bullets are norma oryx, Nosler accubond, Nosler partitions, Nosler E-tip all copper. Barnes TSX or TTSX, Hornady CX, Federal terminal Ascent. the Berger bullet you mentioned are find hunting bullets but not my first choice. the animal that you want to hunt will differentiate what bullet to use. for example, it's not wise to use all copper mono bullets on bears, its best to use bonded core bullets, and keep the velocity around 2000 feet per second at the target for proper bullet expansion. most hunts are within 300-400 yards. the berger vld bullets are constructed for long range. which means they are unnecessary. u want a solid bullet to mushroom while breaking bones or whatever it hits. u can't go wrong with any bullets I listed. for deer a 110-150 grain bullet is enough. for elk a 150-200 grain bullet will work, same for moose. for bear a 180-250 grain bonded core bullet will suffice. remember this, keep the speed up. so dont push the shot too far for your intended target. on elk or moose u want a 1000-1500 foot pounds energy on target. for bison u want around 2000-2500 foot pounds on target. for bear it depends on black bear and grizz'. smaller black bears are much easier to stop. the older bears not so easy. bears never stop growing. for older black & browns, a .300 with 200-250 grain norma oryx bullet is what I'd use , or a swift Scirocco.

[@montuckyman4982]

Nope. It'll bounce off cuz it has more velocity than the 300 win mag he recommended. Kidding. Of course. A 230 berger would hammer em easily if you shoot it well.

[@gregjennen2271]

A 300 RUM with 180 accubonds @ 3,450 MV was my preferred rifle for many years. Inside 300 yards it was absolutely unbeatable.

[@gregjennen2271]

Berger bullets have a tendency to pencil through occasionally due to the miniscule hollow point. I'm fairly certain they expand by tumbling and rupturing, not necessarily mushrooming like a normal hunting bullet is designed to do. I've seen them explode, most common, roll and take on a banana shape and pencil through, least common. They're too unpredictable. Excellent long range target bullets bar-none but not a dependable hunting bullet.

[@christophervaughan7971]

So its my understanding that a .308 would be on the lower end but it would suffice. Am I correct for an Alaskan brown?

[@mattriffle8860]

Christopher Vaughan I’m thinking a 300 WM would be min.

[@exratic5908]

Maybe if you had it in an ar and could mag dumb, then maybe yeah

[@justsomeasshole7388]

If its a semi auto I would think so. I'd probably do a .4570 or 300 win mag. Dependent on brush/ open range.

[@edwardabrahamiii3742]

Dude ive seen a small 22 mag take on a small brown bear that was all ready on a hunt chasing after a small calf moose and im Alaskan we just happened to be where that calf moose was running the closest gun my brother was able to grab was his savage 22 mag the bear and moose was closing in on us that bear was closer then 100 yards my brother got a clean in and out shot thrpugh both lungs no joke but we also had w .308 an AR-15 thats what i carry my grandpa when he was young and was out moose hunting on the yukon mag dumped an AR-15 ON a charging brown bear and took its life better the bears life then his im Alaskan ive seen em shot at em im from the yukon lower end

[@mikemoore466]

300 Win Mag will get the job done. I have a Model 70 and it’s a sweet shooter.

[@user-zs3qb1fu7v]

I go bear hunting every year and I use a stick and alot of curse words thats how I get my bears they don't like it but there coming with me I don't play 😊

[@H43339]

You joke but actually what you are saying is true, some of the biggest bears in the world have been killed with a bow&arrow. All this talk about what size cannon is needed for bear hunting is ridiculous, shot placement is the key.

[@HowCommunicationWorks]

You’ll get better video if you face the window. When the window is behind you, you are underexposed.

[@benwilson5893]

Why not a 223? I heard they have 5 times the velocity of other rounds.

[@sundaesha5892]

223's are used for nail clippers for grizzlies

[@benwilson5893]

@@sundaesha5892 lol.

[@JustMike2791]

.223 will definitely take a bear down. It would need to be a semi auto with a minimum of ten round mag for me. A .223 round under the eye of even the largest polar bear would kill it on the spot provided it had penetration...

[@timothyprice9064]

I love my 223/5.56, being military, but you try to take it bear hunting people would think you were crazy. Heavy 223 rounds are about 75 grains, do you want to rely on an eye shot on a 1000 pound bear?

[@jasonlopez4855]

223 is not allowed on mule Deer hunting because is to small. I won't want a black Bear running at me and have at least AR-10 or good LR-308 or 6.5 Creed that's the smallest for me and a good scope. You don't want to shoot it where the bear can see you the bear will rush you first shot so I like 200 yard's out for safety. But use what the state allows you in caliber rounds as smallest rounds.

[@kristopherpacheco6155]

That rifle is a 338 federal?

[@joshuadeanb]

Yes. Standard LR-308/DPMS style in 338 Federal.

[@jasonlopez4855]

Ya run DPMS LR-380 with 338 fed. Top receiver

[@gregjennen2271]

338 federal is the minimum cartridge for close work. 358 Win is a bit better. The bigger bore diameters allow for a good velocity increase with the 200gr bullets over other short action .473" case head cartridges.

[@sasquatchrosefarts]

The guy is dated. Modern Copper "leaf" softpoints shed hardly any weight but open up like a flower. Ammo keeps getting better and better. You don't cut yourself or mess up your knife or your teeth from metal fragments.

[@robbyp3065]

458 lott works wonderfully 🤷

[@gregjennen2271]

Works, sorta.

[@H43339]

Overkill, you are not in Africa.

[@stan628]

Why is it okay to lose so much lead weight inside the animal, do you like lead poisoning your family. Best thing about copper bullets is no lead poisoning and on thick game, very useful for full penetration through tough hide, muscle and bone on the both sides. You need good velocity for the older design copper bullets but the new ones have greater velocity allowances. Not my opinion, what experts have said.

[@dgoodman1484]

And by experts, you must mean the marketing guys that profit from the sale of those bullets! Lead is more malleable than brass/copper alloys. That’s not debatable it’s just a fact. Once you understand that fact, you are well on your way to understanding which bullet to choose for thin skinned animals. Regardless of what the marketing teams and politicians will tell you.

[@simonsparks5738]

Expert = drip under pressure

[@gregjennen2271]

I can't resist, if your premise were valid there would be no living hunter's progeny. Sometimes it helps to ask yourself, does what I'm about to say make sense?

[@keithkillingsworth5674]

Why kill bears ?? Are they a threat to you ??

[@sharp1tres]

Why eat meat? Why eat plants? Are either a threat to you? They both were living

[@ramonfry9673]

Food or self-defense. I don't believe in Trophy hunting.

[@russellkeeling4387]

Because I don't like them any more than they like me.

[@isaiah3127]

Yes

[@ramonfry9673]

@@energizerwolf5574 If cinnamon, cacao, tea, coffee, avocadoes, or citrus fruits would grow where I live then I wouldn't either.