The Ultimate M.U.G.E.N. Iceberg EXPLAINED - Tier 1

[@DraziWDragon]

There's actually a darker history of the original mugen devs. they did a kickstarter type fund raiser, and it was for mugen to be a side scroller shooter game. however, it functioned better as a 2d fighter. gained a large following, and many people donated to the cause. The devs launched the engine for dos initially. then built a solid linux version, but was hard to create characters due to the major fan base being on windows systems. so they teased everyone with a working beta of the "mugen for windows". and asked for more money from the fans, to finish making the windows version stable. This is the dark part. After receiving a LOT of money from investors/fans. they just vanished. Took the money and ran. it was at least 6 months before someone reversed engineered the windows beta, and released the now, hacked open source code. after hundreds of characters were created, many game version compilations built, and the mugen scene blowing up, they was still no word from any dev. after about a year, people started making characters for their own custom build, and made them more stable and high frame rate than even the AAA titles of the era. They wanted to charge fans for these builds, on a "stolen" engine. THAT'S when the original mugen devs finally came back, and made a big stink about what happened to the windows engine. After fans fixed their windows beta, and made it a polished, finished game engine, ready to code easily by even average pc users. They wanted to sue everyone for the work everyone else did for them, and make everyone that used the engine, pay for the games they compiled. The mugen scene took a huge nose dive during this time. MANY great creators quit. which made Fake creators pop up everywhere. Stealing the works, and changing the credits to their names. MANY of the characters used today, that were ripped from REAL fighting games, are just stolen sprites from the original creators. stolen sprites became so bad, even the devs backed off, because they must've realized the case was pointless among so many cheaters. The devs got what they deserved, for stealing the donations from fans to finish the windows version to be stable, and bailing on them. I was there from the start of mugen. from the 3d side scroller idea/demo, to the downfall of the community. the number 1 site for all thing mugen, used to be "The Mugen Fighter Guild" which had countless creator pages, hundreds of characters from all over the world, to a meer shell of what once was. mugenguild.com. I myself quit, when this crap all went down. I used to compile full games for people. Became too much headache with removing the stolen sprite credits, and restoring the original creator's names back into their works

[@Daph-Pulse]

holy shit! im new to the mugen community, found out about it when i was 6 years old, im now 15, almost 16 and im glad that people still have passion in this community, but i wish i was there to see when mugen was at its peak, or maybe i dont, maybe its for the best at the current state it is now

[@FusionArmorX]

I remember when Elecbyte's last communication between the WinMUGEN era and the release of 1.0 was that they'd be back when "fighting games are back in style".

[@ash_urii]

this is a pretty good video, i've been doing mugen content for a long time and seeing people who share this interest with this game makes me smile ngl

[@dinosaurnerd]

I hope MUGEN archive's history of being a terrible site is on this iceberg

[@dinosaurnerd]

@IKugelBlitz_V MUGEN Archive has a long history of being terrible to newbies and other minor/major reasons.

[@tahaessonnoun9583]

​@@dinosaurnerdbut we can't say it doesnt do a good work at preservation and being a very good catalog

[@dinosaurnerd]

@@tahaessonnoun9583 Of course, it has a LOT of characters and stages.

[@Bogacb]

I registered last year Still waiting for mods to approve it

[@dinosaurnerd]

@@Bogacb Yeah, there's that and having to pay money just to download more than 5 GB worth of characters and stages lol.

[@sakarain]

24:51 I think it’s important to note Touhou has a large amount of fan content (and characters as stated in the video) Because fan created content is the backbone of mugen it was inevitable an overlap would have happened.

[@Leonidash15]

I'm a sucker for Trivia and videogame knowledge! Great video, M.U.G.E.N was something that interested me as a kid but I never really got down the rabbit hole!

[@jacobtheorangeyoshi8710]

Mugen is honestly one of those things I get super into again once in a while. It’s got a nice community and so much you can do with it. Making an iceberg series about it is really cool!

[@hoovy8081]

This is THE mugen iceberg video series, you are pretty talented and wish the algorithm to be nice to you.

[@sakarain]

Good video. I appreciate the youtube chapters/timestamps I like the random cut-ins especially since they feel necessary. Also I find whenever you can’t hold back your laughter when presenting the next topic is pretty funny

[@Biotear]

Touhou is like Warhammer. There's subtle and overt references everywhere, but you never think about them until you get into it.

[@sungazercyan]

Oh god that’s so real

[@sakarain]

7:46 I know it’s given how insane crossovers can be but wtf is that a fucking Hylics stage with Guts berserk and Utsuho touhou fighting?! good god Edit: LOL no way there’s an entire chapter/section on Touhou

[@LucasMartins-lm1ey]

Very good video :) I only knew that mugen was the ultimate crossover fighting game, but this video explained so much to me! Congrats

[@josebueno6323]

Hey there! I made those Saul and Huell edits you showcased at the beginning of the video. Its great to see my characters are bringing people enjoyment haha ❤ Great Iceberg im suprised I only just got recommended it now. Keep up the awesome work on your videos.

[@sungazercyan]

Honestly those are some sick characters thank you for making them

[@josebueno6323]

@@sungazercyan It was my pleasure Mugen has a severe lack of BB/BCS Characters 😂

[@XDeathwingSilenceX]

literally my favorite icebergs are the mugen ones, along ofc with a few theory ones and ones based on my favorite things like horror n stuff. but yea nice video dude keep up the good work.

[@mimismojo]

ayy, my BBD-R JUS is in here! thanks for using it!!

[@sungazercyan]

That is so sick, thank you for making it

[@Proidysweet]

This is surprisingly interesting and well-made.

[@someguywithalowbudget1320]

Damn even you here sheeeeeeeesh

[@Proidysweet]

@@someguywithalowbudget1320 I'm everywhere 😄

[@someguywithalowbudget1320]

@@Proidysweet bro thinks he's Christopher moon💀💀💀

[@someguywithalowbudget1320]

As someone who has mugened all over the place, I approve of your message

[@robcartre5779]

This was really enjoyable, i can't wait for the next part. consider me your 20th subscriber and 20th liker (liker, is that even a word?)

[@voliol8070]

Fun video, and good production quality! Looking forwards to watching the next one. :))

[@GroovingGamer]

Went from not knowing what MUGEN was to enjoying a 40 min video about it, very nice

[@1800PAlN]

as a person who loves M.U.G.E.N. (in theory) but can't be asked to download a bunch of shit to make it entertaining, i love this video also the OFF music...

[@arkaua]

Bro pronouncing it as "Mujen" instead of "Mugen" I can't 😭😭😭

[@Lastprogramer]

Saltybet is how i pass the time when I'm depressed lol

[@Iffyschatos]

Man this video was really good I can’t wait for part 2

[@sungazercyan]

Thank you very much, part 2 should hopefully be out soon

[@noxxyy]

@@sungazercyan looking forward to it! always a fan of these iceberg videos -especially when it's one with my dragon chars on it- . nice way to spend an hour or two tbh

[@Maceyoshiman]

That Dark Souls parry sound effect for the transition really scratches my brain.

[@Т1000-м1и]

This guy probably knows the most out of all iceberg people what he's doing but somehow this only got 26k views

[@kirbyisamazing.]

the most amazing thing i find about mugen is that you can put anyone and anything!

[@Kelswagsinandballin]

Subscribed because I also like m.u.g.e.n. as well!

[@madoka006]

whoa no crappy mic or bad writing and narration????? sick vid/channel! u earned a sub :)

[@SimonKorica]

A voiced M.U.G.E.N. Iceberg? Let's get it.

[@someonetookmynick]

I used to play this back in the 2000s with my cousin, good times :)

[@shi_no_kurai_kage]

Me: "can I still add characters I created myself?" Oh lord my OC roster is chaos if they are in M.U.G.E.N oh shhhhiet

[@jakecreighton9039]

Dude mugen is pronounced with a hard G as in “golf”

[@NyanOof]

Awesome video, btw do you know what the name of the stage at 4:35 is?

[@Suku919]

OH NAH WHAT is that stage at 4:36? that stage transition is so cool wtf

[@sungazercyan]

It took me a hot minute to find it again it’s Cyberpunk 2077 Night City 3D by tigregoods. That transition isn’t from the stage though that’s a mechanic The Melancholy has (which I think itself is pulled from Guilty Gear Strive)

[@Suku919]

@@sungazercyan Holy crap I didn't expect you to back to me in record time like that. thank you!

[@sungazercyan]

What can I say, I work for the people

[@Swagtfiy]

is that fucking worms ultimate mayhem music i hear in the background? UNIMAGINABLY based.....

[@StephenmilesHall-tz7hk]

I will be uploading more of my own mugen matches soon. Never heard of ice berg

[@jules5315]

Thank you so much for this dawg ❤️✊🏽

[@Jazztache]

Tecnically M.U.G.E.N isn't open source. It is abondonware, and there is Ikeman-GO as a fully MIT-licenced version of M.U.G.E.N if you want to play a heavily updated version of M.U.G.E.N

[@Cyndadogo]

Amazing vid! Perfect passionate content i was looking for!

[@Hondunu]

Why do you pronounce it as mew-jin instead of moo-gen? Anyways, nice video. I.K.E.M.E.N is also a nice alternative option. A dev is currently in the works of adding rollback to the engine itself. Also, check out some actual games made with it if you haven't already. I could give you more info if you would like.

[@sungazercyan]

Next part I cover more of the full games in depth like The Black Heart and Hyper DBZ and I think there's more in the next few tiers after that as well. Lots of really interesting stuff especially as far as IKEMEN is concerned. As for pronunciation it's just how I've said it since like 2008, I know the Japanese word is moo-gen but I've just never said m.u.g.e.n. that way.

[@Hondunu]

@Sungazer certain characters can do more than just the normal 12 palettes, something the POTS color select code works or something similar. I'm working on a game myself actually.

[@vidyabatter]

2:51 Huh, I think that's the TFGAF Baldi character I made years ago. Surprised to see it here.

[@nesaaliyah4821]

Are hi res sprites supported? Eg. The sprites from streets of rage 4? I’ve only seen retro pixel sprites used. That white thing at the 11:27 mark is the most detailed one I’ve seen in MUGEN.

[@sungazercyan]

I mean any sprites are supported but since the game officially only runs at a maximum of 1280x720 you can only get so detailed with them (so not true HD in this case). There are a ton of characters that are made from hi-res sprites, ripped 3d models and higher quality original art you just have to work around the limitation of the engine, no matter how high res the sprites are it's always gonna be squashed down to 720p

[@nesaaliyah4821]

@@sungazercyan thanks for answering!

[@SenGaming-105]

that white thing is isaac from the binding of isaac

[@Yagoshi300]

28:38 = Kula, K’, Kyo, Iori, Oswald, Ryu, Ken, Akuma, Orochi, Mizuchi and the Super Mario Bros: Are we a joke to you?

[@sungazercyan]

I think it’s more so the fact that it’s the one singular Donald that’s constantly edited. There’s probably more Ryus and Ioris but there’s so many different versions of them from different games and series I wouldn’t count them as the same kind of edits

[@andyghkfilm2287]

Aah, A-Bomb, my beloved

[@BSNull]

The Melancholy looks dope

[@bennie1079]

Hey did you know there’s a band named after you? And they made this really sick song called “threshold”?

[@sungazercyan]

Nah the band came first, I found that out like six months after I started using this name lmao. There’s also a species of lizard called the sungazer lizard I only found out about that like a month ago

[@bennie1079]

@@sungazercyan yeeaaah I know the band came first. I was just messin’ with ya

[@skeletoncrew2004]

I'm looking to get into Mugen, but I have a few questions for those who have used it. I know it's not for commercial use, but is it possible to export entire games and make a completely original fighting game to call your own? Or is it a platform that characters are added to online?

[@sungazercyan]

So outside of commercial selling of full games you can totally make original games you just have to release them for free. That's what a lot of the fangames are; just prepacked MUGEN installations. The next part covers some more original outings like Battle Craze and Babel Sword. A lot of these games end up being made in IKEMEN however, due to more features, a most consistent engine and the option to release them with intent of monetization

[@Enclave99]

BRO THE FIRST FEW MILLISECONDS BEING ROBO KY GOT ME HOOKED LMAO 🤖🤖🤖‼️‼️‼️🔥🔥🔥

[@Beemer64]

7:00 another good example is omni man in mk1

[@frickysuavve247]

how tf so I dl mogen I tried yesterday and was having a hard time bunch of errors all types of stuff I want the ultimate edition

[@danny3xeer]

omg x vs zero spotted

[@sungazercyan]

Absolute banger track

[@Etheran0]

I want to get into this but I’m not sure where to download, any advice on what places are safe to get it?

[@sungazercyan]

Elecbyte’s download page is still up for the straight up executables with full game screenpacks available on warehousing sites like the Archive or FFA. Otherwise don’t worry too much about safety as far as characters and stages go; anything containing malware is a) exceedingly rare and b) mostly only for winmugen. As long as you’re getting your source .exes from legitimate places then you’ll be fine.

[@Etheran0]

Thanks currently waiting for the day verification for mugen archive can’t wait to use it

[@Etheran0]

Well just got a probation after waiting 24hrs when I logged in for unusual traffic (didn’t use VPN either) any other place I can look for the game download I can’t find the download in the Elecbyte page

[@Etheran0]

Mugen archive IP banned me for no reason is there any other place that’s a good place to download from?

[@AleksandrCheryshev]

Крутое видео, Молодец!

[@BSNull]

Sup second or thrid watch, I wont promise a sub, because I am strongly for honesty, we'll see

[@rain2538]

16:16 what's the name of this screen pack?

[@sungazercyan]

It’s MUGEN Megamix HD

[@rain2538]

@@sungazercyan i think that's the wrong one

[@StephenmilesHall-tz7hk]

Does anyone else like fighting in handicap matches?

[@yeticoatabrigodeyeti160]

3:43 yo whats that stage

[@SebastianVazquezFerrero]

It would be worth to make a whole video about cheapies and then leave them out. The rest of the engine history is faaaar more interesting than that.

[@sungazercyan]

That’s actually a great idea. I think I’ll still leave the cheapies in this video but doing a whole video about them sounds super interesting. I’ll keep it brief in the iceberg though just some basic information

[@imperiallegionnaire8344]

26:26 probably unintentional but still funny

[@MikeTButler]

YES! MUGEN! PLAY BATTLE CRAZE!

[@kprojectskurt]

What's the intro song?

[@kprojectskurt]

Hello Kprojects from past, it's X vs Zero - Megaman X5

[@unknownkingdom]

Elecbyte was the NSA.

[@DanoRenovado]

Saul Goodman

[@zerobasedgod9291]

why are you a roblox baddie

[@sketchproductions756]

i was expecting mugen the roblox game but i shouldve expected this with the thumbnail

[@lemonov3031]

I don't know any games called mujen

[@ZaxTax-h8t]

I hate the way you pronounce it but respect your right to say it wrong.

[@ShinRyuful]

why mujen bruh its mugen

[@viciousjaw]

I could not find snoop dogg or kanye west

[@bazookaman1353]

Off ost detected.

[@reubenbailey7491]

Is it pronounced Moo-gen or Mooge-en?

[@friendformationbot]

its not pronounced mujen

[@Jay-f1q6t]

its not mujen its mugen just like it sounds

[@sbplankton_1999]

That's My mom birthdays release it.

[@Pax_Mayn3]

It's disappointing that nobody has made a game with a few hundred QUALITY characters and removed infinites/adjusted damage to balance it hosted a tourney. I picture a big community all voting on what to nerf/buff till it's as balanced as you can get it. The characters must also be quality and not look out of place, a bunch of neogeo/capcom characters. Then start playing online tourneys. It has the potential to be the greatest competitive fighting game of all time, but all i've seen in tourneys is jank. So much wasted potential.

[@SenatorArmstrong2018]

It really wouldn’t be M.U.G.E.N, then, it would just be…Generic Smash Bros Clone #85. I get the idea, but MUGEN is SUPPOSED to be random and unbalanced. Not all MUGENs are, obviously, but the charm of it comes from its chaotic nature. Take that away and you have a generic crossover fighter.

[@Pax_Mayn3]

@@SenatorArmstrong2018 For me that's not what mugen is at all, for me it's about match ups that don't exist in an official release, like Shermie 98 vs Street fighter 3 Hugo, Kof Vanessa or Heavy D vs Balrog/Dudley. Samurai Shodown vs Last Blade, etc. Mugen doesn't exist just to have terrible broken matches. It was made to have dream matches that weren't otherwise possible. With balanced characters it's no different than capcom vs snk 2 which has several different fighting game mechanics you can choose for each seperate character. Yeah it's funny to see Tom Hanks one shot every thing a few times, but people don't painstakingly recreate characters with all their frame data the same just so they can be 1 shot by omega giga sonic pikachu #23415. My friends and I played marvel capcom 2, then we made our own in mugen and balanced it, it was way more fun than any other fighter especially with 2vs2. Think of it like a bunch of legos, it's like having a bunch of tools like paint brushes, paints, canvases, etc, and then choosing the throw them at each other because it's funny instead of making something that's worthwhile and will last a long time. You don't have to follow the rules in chess or checkers, but that would entirely defeat the purpose and fun of the game.

[@juanherrera9851]

Seems like a good video but I couldn’t watch. You kept saying it wrong. It’s pronounced moo-gen, I know it’s spelt mugen but that’s how it’s supposed to sound like.

[@Im_Him_Fr]

L roblox avatar fr, but W video. Also, it's pronounced Mugen, not Mujin.

[@gravesdiseasev.2mugenwarz523]

Its unfortunate that you have made a whole video about mugen but there is no mention of the Kingdom of NEGUM ... The Land of The Strongest Mugen Players In The Existence of Mugen and The NEGUM Library ... The Largest free Character Library That Is Close To Surpassing The Mugen Archive In The Next Few months ... if You Don't Know About the Kingdom of NEGUM Your Research Into Mugen Is Lacking

[@robertredfield8873]

"mujen" wtf