The Ultimate Marksman Hunter Guide - Talents, Rotation, Runes, Pets etc.

[@marcelhenneberger3412]

Do you have a link for that weakaura?

[@korbinlindebrekke3637]

I know this may sound silly, but would that mp5 from a mana oil on the trident and eating a smoked sagefish for mp5 help solve your mana issues here?

[@MikeCareen]

Hey Sarthe - Any chance you can share your weakaura setup?

[@michaelac7320]

i found it online by looking for it sarthe sod weakaura

[@futuramaiscool92]

I’ve rocked ghost saber since I started wow over a decade ago. Love to see you recommending him, such a clean looking pet

[@zinxderobo]

That's what I immediately went to on SoD release! 2.0 cats are valid!

[@Corona0982]

Is there any reason why we can't use bears? They are 2.0 or higher?

[@BreackTheHeat]

@@Corona0982 Because they are Tanks, have a lot more stamina instead of str and agi

[@NeilyWins]

Sarthe, what weakaura are you using for the autoshot/castbar?

[@AaronMcGovern-s2f]

Yeah I want a link for that for sure looks clean and I cba moding

[@amandag5987]

Saaaame I’m new to wow and I really like the weakaura on this video. Pls link !

[@olaresell6791]

i think its called sarthe

[@Cre1235]

Do you have your addons/weak auras listed anywhere? How can I access them?

[@Jorge-lr7zv]

Did you manage to know what addon is used for cast bars?

[@araunanpa]

Hey man!! Nice content! Gratz! What's the name of the addon that shows the shots cooldown/casting?

[@Jorge-lr7zv]

Same question. Did you find it?

[@araunanpa]

@@Jorge-lr7zv no :(

[@grav1sh]

Mana issues are built around current BiS lists, you should be prioritising falcon gear with INT. Stamina is not needed. Also for Marksman their is a strong argument for feline mantel from SFK

[@grilledleeks6514]

Have fun dying in pvp with no Stam lol

[@grav1sh]

@@grilledleeks6514 i’m sure you can find the solution… equip a different set for pve from pvp

[@GraceUponGrace116]

@@grilledleeks6514 imagine not knowing about multiple gear sets

[@Rev0UK1]

if you aren't using flanking, you dont need a 2.0 pet Before you confuse people.

[@brewdie666]

Wrong, speed only matters for pushback in pvp

[@ikosian]

@@brewdie666why it’s wrong? Flanking strikes is based on pets damage too, so the slower speed - the higher attack dmg will be

[@DrunknBraindead]

​@@brewdie666wroong

[@warrensmith481]

​@@ikosianthat is true, but what's wrong is that you only want a 2.0 speed when using FS. In PvE pet speed doesn't matter (outside of FS)... faster speed only makes a difference in PvP.

[@ikosian]

@@warrensmith481 it would be wrong to say that speed doesn’t matter in pve , that’s it. Not when you have flanking strike

[@AcousticOlli]

is chimera shot even worth it? you are missing out on the BM rune for it which buffs your pets dmg and ressource regeneration buffing cats damage incredibly high. i checked all of the top DPS hunter on warcraft logs and nobody seems to be using chimera shot or aimed shot for that matter. the first hunter in the top 100 to use aimed shot is at number 21 but that must be pre scorpid nerf as well as he is running scorpid with poison doing the most of his damage.

[@DQime]

You must flip the two focus dumps on your pet bar. The left most ability takes priority. Thus bite needs to be first.

[@Staroy]

This isnt true

[@Goagubbe79]

Need that swing timer / shot timer / castbar

[@AvidShoplifter]

think it’s a weakauras but same i need that

[@Jorge-lr7zv]

Did you find it guay? Have the same questions. I’d love to have that cast bar

[@Goagubbe79]

@@Jorge-lr7zv nope.

[@silyoun]

What's the addon to make the frames for the character/pet look like that? I also like the middle cast bar as well with the 5 skills

[@TheSlashCry]

shadowed unit frames for pet/char frame, weakaura for the middle stuff

[@silyoun]

@@TheSlashCry you’re the best thank you

[@antoniolongobardi313]

name of this weak aura? ty@@TheSlashCry

[@twentytwo7707]

What's the reason for the macro command "noharm" at the targetenemy line? I'm a bit confused about this since a while. Think this command is only for friendly targets, isn't it?

[@Smuoc92]

can you link the wa for that weapong swing timer?

[@Sarthetv]

made a new weak aura last night to fix any LUA errors: docs.google.com/document/d/1NuaMpXF5ols8kp5rSiDRfbROM8on-QzrZVcOTj8iCWM/edit?usp=sharing

[@daninervo5717]

Not sure why @ 7:58 you say something about flanking strike resetting your raptor strike, it works the other way around. And theres no way to make the Raptor come after Flanking to insta reset Flanking, so not sure what you are trying to say there?

[@turtlebearau27]

He did get it wrong. You actually can proc flanking before Raptor, I have been playing Melee hunter since launch. It also means if you proc Flanking and get reset you could get FS>RS>FS in one GCD. Activate raptor and spam FS as you run in, the FS will proc first, then if RS Auto resets and you are spamming FS you will get the second proc then dip if you want to weave.

[@daninervo5717]

you get FS off before RS consistently?@@turtlebearau27

[@tinsparetfe5277]

hi , what addon do you use to see the white/red bar of the auto shot ???

[@Jorge-lr7zv]

Same questions. Did you find it?

[@tinsparetfe5277]

@@Jorge-lr7zv nopp

[@Leoshade99]

what about when u proc the haste buff, do you still aim shot or just arcane shot so that way you're getting more autos in?

[@OldAlexander]

what addon are you using for the cast bar?

[@zepharo]

Heya, just wanna ask, Does AP from Outlaw Sabre and Cruel Barb increase ranged dmg?

[@bloodyfisht6877]

if it doesent specify, it applies to both ranged and melee

[@datolicious4832]

What weakaura you using sarthe? Really clean

[@Slokeyz]

Do you have a video explaining your addon setup?

[@TheTCommander]

how do I get minor recombobulator as a horde player?

[@DomeAGnome]

@sarthe What about using Humar pet, you think ghost saber is still better?

[@trad5479]

Hello , good job on the guide. If you intend on weaving do you not apply the BFD Sharpening Stone so you get windfury or you think 2% hit is too much and you would skip on windfury instead?

[@peachwow2017]

The Sharpening Stone does not override Wild Strikes, you get both

[@Cogoxd]

@@peachwow2017that’s false

[@heatherbucci5356]

Does Multi Shot cancel the auto shot timer?

[@Veiljustin83]

no it doesn't. it just delayed it for another 0.5 secs as there is a hidden 0.5 secs cast time, so you can't move and cast at the same time.

[@marcdichmann1690]

hey man can u use a carrion bird? it can learn bite and claw and if i recall it as 2.0 attack speed?

[@BIacklce]

the ultimate hunter guide until the current class meta is completely undone in 2 days

[@AvidShoplifter]

what changed?

[@lee5771]

Just a question why are logs just not showing this spec? top spec hunters, like top 100 or so, just not using this setup, am I missing something?

[@Jsworld01]

what addon shows the timer for the auto shots?

[@Jorge-lr7zv]

Same question. Did you find it?

[@jamesbond6538]

why is it that you want cat as bm and wind serpent as mm? cause bm just works with bite and wind serpent does not profit? but there is nothing better than havin the bite rune even as mm or am i thinking wrong?

[@Jorge-lr7zv]

Please somebody tell me whats the addons he is using for the swing timmer? I getting crazy trying to find it. Please @sarthe end my suffering.

[@gromultimas2224]

You said minor recombobulator is required, but I really don’t want to go engineering. I’m enjoying LW/skinning and have made hundreds of gold. Can I I do this with just mana potions?

[@canyoufearme1]

No because you can only pot once, engineering will be more and more important the further we get in SoD.

[@forvicommits]

im a bit confused by the manacosts you saying on 7:12 . Multishot 90 mana Chimera 66 Aimedshot 68 hmm im level 25 and have learned all skills my tooltip says Multishot 65 mana Chimera 23 Aimedshot 49

[@forvicommits]

also your Weaving macro is the wrong order. you want to do Flanking first then Raptor strike deals 10% more Damage and also Raptor can reset the CD of Flanking strike

[@Naturetvz]

Great Video! Pre Gratz on 100k Subz

[@Sarthetv]

let's goo!!!

[@SENYA666]

I am using Skinning and Leatherworking rn. Both @150. Is it worth swapping Skinning for Engineering just to use the recombomulator? First Time playing WoW and your videos already helped a lot ^^

[@user-yo3cg9ev8y]

yes a lot of ppl swap to engineering later in the game

[@pa7764]

I would wait to pick up engi and either farm gold with skinning until you're ready to raid next phase, or pick up mining with the same intent except you can farm your own metals before swapping, next phase. Engi isn't that big right now if you have another green or better helmet. Mostly, engi benefit is an 8 stam helm atm, bombs will get a lot better next phase.

[@SENYA666]

@@pa7764 thanks for Help man :)

[@mirankasalo2050]

Which weak aura is it?

[@robinwarning8224]

where you have your UI? i need this, can i have it? :)

[@michaelac7320]

Do you have a link for your weakauras?

[@Shmudo1]

whats the macro for the mele weave - flanking strike>rapotr strike ?

[@reverse4308]

probably castsequence

[@KevinSedibeh]

Whats that weak aura?

[@tannervonstein3382]

do you have a macro to auto toggle on auto shot that WILL NOT toggle it off when hit again

[@TheSiddster]

/cast !Auto Shot

[@tannervonstein3382]

i take it back, i just didn’t watch far enough

[@faranir7640]

Sarthe please post the macro for FLANKING STRIKES

[@Vmpr666]

why does it being 2.0 matter? you said it didnt in the last video im very confused

[@jonasdahl2394]

if you have worse gear, is cat(ghostsaber) + BM spec + BM runes still viable? ofc no kill command since its only 1 dps increase right? anyone know?

[@nullratt7152]

Is there a way to look at all your macros?

[@Jorge-lr7zv]

Same question. Did you find it?

[@lukasschroder4873]

where can i find that Weakaura?

[@TheFaWeL86]

/cleartarget [dead] /targetenemy [noharm] /stopattack /cast !Auto Shot

[@silas9302]

Auto Shot 2 words

[@carlos...m2519]

Hello, excellent guide. I would like to know what addons you use. Thank you

[@Jorge-lr7zv]

Did you get answer? I have the exact same question. Thanks

[@jacobpowell-o5o]

The Rake is a rare in mulgore, its is the second fastest attack speed needs to the one from badlands

[@Midnightmunchies0420]

Do you use multi-shot on bosses as well? (on one target?)

[@tarikhansen165]

yes MS > AS

[@MatthewB-Kornafel-xv6oi]

Am I allowed to play the class the way I want tho ?

[@HansPeters1234]

Is that elixier of agility u have on at 0:59 ? (green potion) How do you get that?

[@AcousticOlli]

from the auction house. simple.

[@HansPeters1234]

nothing like that on ah on my server sadge@@AcousticOlli

[@AcousticOlli]

@@HansPeters1234 what server are you on? it´s called elixir of lesser agility and gives 8 agility for 1 hour. requires alchemy 140. it`s the best agility elixir currently craftable. you can also get scrolls of agility which give 9 agility but it`s not really worth it as they are pretty expensive.

[@ghostedbones6478]

Why would you ever grab Aspect Hawk and not get Trueshot Aur

[@cryteam-nico7139]

weakaura for this ?

[@FreshFowkz]

got the crossbow+trident last ID and deleting people in wsg, hyped to test it in bfd tomorrow

[@ActuallyVRB]

what scrtoll is best for the pet? str or agi?

[@Tiemooo59]

you can use both

[@jessikat6692]

Where is the WA link to download? ty

[@elie195]

the referenced pet video from yesterday still says WS benefits from kill command but this got changed. the comments mention it though

[@primal5435]

Why not Chimera shot first?

[@fsanfo]

Hi Sarthe, thanks in advance for sharing knowledge! I'd like to learn your macro that switches between explosion and chimera depending on which gloves you're wearing. Thanks again, peace!

[@Brewdie9101]

/cast Hands Rune Ability

[@fsanfo]

@@Brewdie9101 thanks very much

[@Danocaster214]

Well formatted, well scripted, well paced. Great video, thanks!

[@georgijestojcev]

hey, dont you think that with those talents, beast mastery kill comand and lion aspect are better?

[@soul_vicex]

they are better, MM just arent ready to admit it yet

[@user-yo3cg9ev8y]

bm is still rly strong, and even stronger then mm in a lot of cases, if mm can keep the mana up its even or a bit more dmg then bm

[@shin658]

can I use Echeyakee (with AS of 2.0) to replace the ghost cat, since it quite hard as horde to go to darkshore to tame it?

[@t1m0tee54]

It's the same and imo Echeyakee looks even better. However I went to Darkshore to tame the ghost kitty on my alliance hunter and there were a ton of horde hunters aswell. Everybody was chill and there was no pvp at all. So if you want the ghost one instead you should go for it. My recommendation would be to take a friend with you if you can so one can camp in one area while the other one is running around.

[@AtillaDaPun]

Yeah on Crusader Strike and only got ganked twice in the hour it took to get her to spawn. Taking a friend is smart advice, twas a nervous adventure when I did it solo lmao

[@matthieubouchard1902]

How to get this ui addons cast bar and stuff

[@mandog1086]

The Rake cat you can get outside Tbubderbluff has an attack speed of 1.20.

[@Mauuriitz]

Weakaura strings would be phenomenal !!

[@dhoff82]

Think feral or rogue better dps? Trying to decide on an alt for my priest

[@AristeidisMaratsinos]

Hey guys does anyone know if sarthe has uploaded the ui he uses in this video?

[@Jorge-lr7zv]

Same question. Did you find it?

[@juniornaja]

Poderia disponibilizar essa WA com is shots e cast bar ?

[@lukesmith41]

do you have to tame the rare wind serpent ? or can i lvl one ive had 2 other hunters kill it while i was trying to tame it and im about done waiting for it to spawn again ...

[@jdog1991fly]

You can just go to 1k needles and tame a lvl25 cloud serpent for the rank 3 lightning breath

[@lukesmith41]

okay thank you! @@jdog1991fly

[@Germ4ch]

i would love to play MM, but its WHEY to mana intense... gotta stick to BM since i pug all the time...

[@ObliteratorPvP]

This seems like so much more work. Just going to wait for assblaster to drop Bm is still doing insane dmg - I really Love MM but its just not viable without specific items. BM cna just roll in still hold top dps and that will do until the Xbow drops

[@Sarthetv]

isn't that also more fun? BM is still really good if you want to use that, you can still use a Wind Serpent, or a Craptor to pump with it

[@capnslapn2905]

BM hunters are my favorite to PvP against as a warlock, fear the pet and i win

[@ObliteratorPvP]

@@capnslapn2905 If we are talking PvP warlocks/mages would be my fav thin to go against just aimed shot chimera and i win

[@FreshFowkz]

btw when you melee weave you should always try to squeeze in a wingclip while you'Re moving out since it can trigger windfury

[@Boss-dk7cn]

Where is your weak aura?

[@boxofpears2]

what weak aura do u use?

[@Burlehmangus]

The second I saw how much dmg lightning breath was doing frontloaded, I smelled the nerfbat and immediately tamed a black ravaged mastiff for furious howl and went mm. Idk why more ppl aren’t taking about the wolf r2 furious howl is nuts for aimed…I’m also curious about taking the slayer talents over imp hawk

[@warrensmith481]

What has been your biggest aimed shot crit so far? I tried 5/11/0 all day yesterday and AS damage just felt so low... even without BM spec my Wind Serpents LBs were hitting way harder than aimed shot.

[@TMark.]

Furious howl in classic gives only melee atk power. I guess Ur melee would be happy

[@thecsslife]

Furious howl is bugged btw

[@Highlaw]

Howl doesn't really work as expected. It only affects white damage, but is still consumed on ability damage (without improving it) which means at least half the time it's wasted.@@TMark.

[@helljumper_]

@@warrensmith481 MM is VERY gear dependent, could be why your AS is weak.

[@DegenSocial]

Can you make a video on addons?

[@H-D-D]

Don't forget you can use flasks/elixirs/food buffs on pet too. Just use Eyes of the Beast, then while controlling your pet click on the item to use it

[@Goagubbe79]

Lol comon

[@Albertbs]

Wow, this is the first time I've heard of this, thanks.

[@jakubvohrna1715]

Anyone got that hunter WA?

[@itsmystorytillnow]

i need your melee weaving macro

[@Sarthetv]

I use this: #showtooltip Raptor Strike /startattack /cast flanking strike /cast raptor strike /cast mongoose bite

[@turdferguson4447]

Why not Lone wolf?

[@FiercedWoW]

Because lone wolf sucks. Pets easely do 40% of your damage. Cutting them and going for lone wolf, adding very little damage to yourself is a damage loss.

[@pabloalfaro3768]

Where can I find the weak auras you are using ?

[@Rimaku0]

Looks like the Cludes one, just modified with the new abilities

[@notlikethis1981]

So BM is now worse than MM? What happened?

[@FiercedWoW]

Nothing happend, bm is still stronger.

[@johnhealey9217]

😐 following this to the letter. Group kills so fast that I don’t even mana pot. Chillin at 140 dps. What gives?

[@ziadramman]

inb4 blizzard nerfs Aimed Shot

[@somehowrockingfloor3395]

zzzzzz I swear about to delete my hunter lmao

[@ReviloEbbet9923]

i want your wa´s , can you copy the string pls? =)

[@VishankaMC]

Can't wait for all this information to be useless when they nerf hunters again

[@Apostolnixx]

Kek 😂

[@anthonyzarfati3579]

lol

[@josuev4276]

why have an extra pair of gloves? just change the rune

[@kickflipyttv6388]

Still rocking top DPS as BM, i have the ring as well for the 1% pet dmg

[@kyojincat4031]

WHAT İS THE NAME OF THAT RİNG

[@HuffTheMan]

@@kyojincat4031 Signet of Beasts. Drops from Lady Sarevess. GL!

[@AegonThePomsky]

Signet of Beasts@@kyojincat4031

[@FreshFowkz]

i still think windserpents are busted, you dont need kill command, its an overrated rune anyway imo

[@gerold89]

I have the ring and it’s Garbo, pet goes up 1 point of dmg. There’s better rings than that

[@dubgaxD]

Im playing similar build as a hunter, but instead of going info hawk in talents i chose hunters mark, because i didnt see that hawks eye buff that much often. I can always use berserk as troll to burst a boss.

[@Jdkieddj]

Bro how can I get your UI? Is that ElvUI? Please send code!

[@DiscStockiable]

aspect of the lion rune is always better then master marksmen

[@chrishernandez1323]

Unless you have 2 hunters in our group. In that situation Master marksman + sniper training + bfd buff is better

[@zinxderobo]

Um... you can go MM anytime you want... The thing that separates it from BM? Idk it actually takes a tiny bit of skill?

[@doncorleone1720]

Skilllll lmfaoooo

[@andrewcampion8200]

I've run them both, and prefer the MM playstyle, but I would recommend ppl get most of their questing out of the way first b4 switching to MM because you'll be ripping threat off your pet instantly. You can of course run MM with BM rune which is better, but you're still going to have to do way more kiting than BM. Not always ideal when you're quest mobs are elite red.

[@zinxderobo]

@@andrewcampion8200 very true. The BM rune is very handy. Using it is a stark contrast to vanilla where there's no chance you won't pull off of your pet with an aimed shot. I thoroughly enjoy the flow of MM, you very much have to be cognizant of your mana which I also enjoy. I'm so tired of getting asked in every group since SoD launched "why aren't you BM?"

[@zinxderobo]

@@doncorleone1720 first off of you noticed I said tiny bit. Secondly compared to BM you actually have to pay attention to do the same DPS. I know everything's trivial for you cause you're wow's greatest player. I'm so thankful that you could take time from road fighting in AB to grace us with such an insightful opinion.

[@doncorleone1720]

@@zinxderobo wo ist mein geld

[@Rimaku0]

Ultimate means final, and with the rate of Hunter changes going out I highly doubt that

[@AcousticOlli]

as with most words they have several meanings. ultimate also means the best, the best achievable, best imaginable of something.. so maybe stfu or at least make sure you are right before trying to be smart.

[@Darkznator]

Good video. Pls Ultimate BM hunter guide with new nerfs ;)

[@mackabeats]

I'm not sure about using Aimed Shot as first in your rotation. First off you would want Sniper Training up when using Aimed shot and have more chance for a crit from it, also you want serpent sting active asap, so I would use Serpent Sting, Chimera shot, Arcane shot, then Aimed shot.

[@Whydyoudothis]

Arcane shot it’s totally terrible you probably should never use it

[@sonof2tards]

Arcane shot would never take priority over aimed shot. You’ll be waiting for auto attacks between serpent sting, chimera and aimed, by then you’d have sniper training. Arcane shot is terrible

[@huruh5819]

Remove arcane shot from you bars, it's a dead spell.

[@coolyeah6051]

HOW CAN u use ARCANE and AIMED SHOT if they share a CD! u trolling! and OPENING with AIMED SHOT is always the best thing to do cause no1 else is DPSing and u HIT the boss with a 3sec cast ability that will let u do the other shots b4 caming back on CD!!! just learn first comment later

[@Jorge-lr7zv]

Newbie question guys. Why is Arcane shot that bad?

[@Mistrudels]

Here comes the nerf

[@EemWas22]

the hunter discord said that MM chimera does 150 dps at max and can never beat bm in any fight ... they literally banned anyone suggesting MM lmaooooooooo

[@loganedwards5701]

Looooool

[@bronntoise]

Nobody got banned.

[@nickv3085]

Just making shit up again I seee?

[@KAZPERFOX]

Lol ONLY thing above MM hunt is rogue.

[@Naturetvz]

Whoever said that is wrong lol I’ve done over 200 using the spec Sarthe just covered

[@danielcrellin8143]

Hunter guide= pet does everything