The Ultimate X58 CPU | Intel Xeon W3690

[@hblankpc]

There's another advantage of the W3690 (and all other LGA1366 CPUs with unlocked multipliers) that I learned about after making this video. If you have a board with a locked BIOS, such as the one in the HP Z400 workstation, you can use Intel XTU to do some basic turbo overclocking from within Windows. It's not nearly as flexible or effective as proper tuning in the BIOS, but it might give you a reason to go with this or the W3680 over other options.

[@ahmeda.elmoniem7857]

can you please show me the best settings in XTU to overclock w3690 safely ?

[@hblankpc]

imgur.com/a/vQewo This is a good place to start, that'll give you 4GHz on all cores under load. I haven't spent a lot of time with XTU but on my system I could go up to 31x (4.13GHz) on all cores and still complete a Cinebench test. 32x on all cores crashed CB though. I tried adjusting the 1 core multiplier but it didn't seem to actually do anything, so I'd keep your multipliers the same across the board.

[@ahmeda.elmoniem7857]

u r right i did go up to 32x for all cores and it crashed with watchdog bluescreen erorr and i think 31x for all cores like the image will be the end of my OC but it is not bad at all actually it is great we r talking about 3.9 ghz !! the AC ORIGNIS recommended ghz is only 3.4 ghz !!

[@hblankpc]

Good stuff, glad it worked out for you!

[@folop86]

I have a hp z400 with a w3680 and a gtx 970 and its a monster in gaming, i used UTX and bumped the multiplier up to 31(4.1ghz stable)

[@Rubafix989]

The X5675 can be found for 36USD on Ebay. Its a wonderful product, reached 4.1GHz on stock voltages. It replaced an aging i7 920 and joined forces with my GTX1080. X58 will march on 2020.

[@qt5172]

im running a x5675 @ 4.4Ghz 1.30v stable. currently have a noctua CP12 14SE cooler which hovers around 84c during CPU stress test. Have a EVGA 240 AIO on the way, hopefully it allows me to push it further. Edit - got my aio installed.... 4.5ghz@1.32v full load is now 55c

[@LuisRamos-hk2in]

What motherboard are you guys using?

[@Rubafix989]

@@LuisRamos-hk2in hey Luis, I'm using a P6TSE from Asus. It gets to 220 BCLK, but running at 186 atm.

[@twizz420]

@@qt5172 HOW? I'm running a G1.Sniper with an x5675 and I'm running 1.395v to get 4.5ghz... And I keep getting irql BSOD's.

[@Herbert2892]

@@twizz420 Well, if he's telling the truth, he clearly won the silicon lottery and get an excellent overclockable chip. I wish to know which motherboard he's using too.

[@haegor]

Its 2023 and I'm running a W3680 on Gigabyte USB3 X58 with 24GB RAM. Been on X58 since 2010 and upgraded the CPU 920->960->3680. This PC was running the hot new Windows 7 when new and upgraded straight to Windows 10 where it remains. Been through many many video cards on this rig and yet its in daily use at 13 years old.

[@dubment]

depending on where you are, I bet that you would of had the money to get at least two now platforms for the power bill alone lol

[@TheColonelK1LL]

I have this CPU little brother, The W3680 overclocked to 4.54Ghz paired with a GTX1070 and games run great BF1 4K High 45-60 fps Destiny 2 4K medium 60fps at all times its old but its a beast

[@TheKanesi]

TheColonelK1LL what cooler are you running? If the system is still going 😁

[@711jastin]

i would recommend Noctua's 140mm heatsinks, those are designed exactly for high tdp cpu like xeons.

[@sealance]

What settings did you use in bios?

[@Krystalmyth]

Are you playing them at 4k? Why?

[@iZiG4me]

@@Krystalmyth he probably has a 4k monitor

[@TimmyJoePCTech]

I match your cinebench score with a x5650 and an AIO on an asus rampage iii gene at 4.4 ghz. I honestly think with the right motherboard and cooling the x5650 is the ultimate xeon as it achieves stable 4.4 ghz overclocks at 29 dollars on ebay, w3690s are still 150 dollars.

[@hblankpc]

There's a big difference between "ultimate" and "smartest buy". You've capped out your all-core multiplier already so unless you juice your BCLK a little more or enable turbo, you've squeezed all you can out of it. That right there highlights why an unlocked multiplier is nice; even if you can't realistically raise it past what a locked CPU can achieve, you still have the freedom to try, and at the very least you can do some really basic overclocking with XTU on boards with a locked BIOS. At the moment the X5660 is priced basically identically to the X5650, so the price argument doesn't hold up either. (eBay didn't want to show the trending prices so I can't confirm if that's normally the case) I have no idea where you're getting $150 for the W3690, the trending price is $110. Still not a good deal, but that's not the point.

[@waarky6310]

What are your temps Timmy?

[@MilesDeighton1]

He's in Canada. Prices 20% higher due to $ disp, also additional import duties

[@KRKATANAKID]

I have an X5680 running at 4.73GHz

[@DaFreshNetwork]

KRKATANAKID I was looking to buying a x5680 what kinda psu and cooler do u have to get 4.7 , I’m new to oc , I have a w3540 wouldnu recommend me to upgrade to the x5680

[@4x4forlyfe]

My brother-in-law gave me his old PC from his architect school days for free. Specs are Gigabyte EX58-UD4P Mobo, i7 920, 6GB RAM, 600 watt PSU, Antec 302 case, and a weeeeeeak Quadro FX 570 GPU. I immediately tore everything down and cleaned it from top to bottom. It was pretty disgusting. Found a dude online selling his GTX 970 for $90 and added a Samsung SSD. Just looking for 24GB of RAM now to complete the build. This is my first X58 PC build and man has it been fun so far. This video was pretty amazingly thought out and I appreciate all the testing you went through. Take care!

[@hoppstech]

I always enjoy when people go over the 1366 platform, since it's my personal favorite. This video was great and had nice b roll

[@IncenderyLemon]

Very nice video, It's always impressive how powerful these X58 builds can be.

[@mikem9536]

I love my w3690, I don't even bother overclocking it, runs all my games no problem.

[@jimmymoye5042]

Just had to stop "stop" your video right at 3 minutes just so I can tell you thank you for doing a comparison of the i7 next to the Xeon in your rig. 👍👍

[@psions555]

I retired my Xeon Bloomfield BOXX workstation in favour of a 9th gen HP workstation. The old Xeon system was unbelievable in terms of reliability and stability I've never stuck with a rig for so long with such good upgrade paths.

[@WebbTech1]

I literally bought recently the w3690 for my DX58SO system because of this video...for $60 on ebay. Thank you!

[@WebbTech1]

The Obseletist, what cooler do you recommend for overclocking at 4 gHz or more? I have a coolmaster g100m, and it does a good job at around 68 degrees, but during certain points in a game, the temp may spike to the 80's. Liquid cooler?

[@hblankpc]

I don't think you really need liquid cooling tbh, 4GHz in particular isn't very hard to cool even with the 212 Evo. I almost bought a Scythe Mugen 5 until I realized I needed an even shorter cooler for best compatibility with my case, so assuming your case isn't crap I'd get that.

[@WebbTech1]

@@hblankpc , yeah I had a "crap case". My whole rig was donated to me by my friend/co-worker, after I told him I was getting back into PC gaming, after a years and years. The rig was (somewhat is, though I'll explain the changes) a basic Cooler Master case, Windows 7 professional, 2 640GB HHD's (in Raid configuration), i7920, 8 GB ddr3 ram, a Gtx 970 Twin Frozer graphics card, stock cooler, 1 exhaust fan, but it did come with a Cosair 750M power supply. NOW: 16gb ddr3 ripjaws 1600mhz ram (XMP profile says it can be 1600 but in bios I have it at 1444hmz, 1600 is not stable, but that may require some configuration), EVGA Geforce GTX 1060 6GB SC graphics card (I have this overclocked at 1835mHz, really outstanding results!), the w3690 (of course!), the Cooler Master RGB G100m cooler which is on full speed (2500rpms), MSI 24 inch 144mHz curved monitor..and now I have the Silverstone Primera RGB case with 4 140mm fans, and with 2 140 mm be quiet! fans on the top inside of the case..all of which will be transferred over to this new case. I prefer right now air over liquid cooling. Even playing games now with my current upgraded configuration, I get excellent performance and temps...will be even better when transferred to the new case. Who knows though...I am happy with my configuration and it's performance. I already know about all of ideas that what I have may be deemed "outdated" when it comes to gaming. Everything though is super-fast, and I enjoy it. I may at some point swap the whole mother-board/cpu/ram configuration for an AMD/Ryzen build (ironically, I just saw on ebay that the DX58so, lga 1366 socket was going for as much as $150! There's something about this kind of platform for budget gamers/enthusiasts like myself!!) but for now, I am cool! And again, thank you for this video about the w3690, which sold me on this build! PEACE!

[@WebbTech1]

The Obsoletist, also...can you recommend how I can bring my DDR3 ram speed to XMP profile (1600mHz) in bios and be stable? I'll even include my email address here...not that I am lacking (really) in performance, but just like many enthusiasts, I want to get the most out of what I have. The ripjaw ram sticks are really awesome. Thanks!

[@hblankpc]

On my P6T setting the XMP profile automatically sets the QPI/DRAM voltage to 1.3V, maybe try that?

[@sirwes2924]

UT99 music FTW...

[@madhoshy9164]

Fckn Love this Track!!! So good he Put this in ! Remjnds of good old Times :)

[@secaarco]

Your work and knowledge is impressive. Keep up the good work!

[@Decco6306]

I know one thing, those older HP z series workstations like the z800 and z600 make an AMAZING budget build. i got mine with an ssd, two x5670s and 24gb of ram for $250. thats insane. the case is so massive you can fit anything you want in it and the cooling is great.

[@crazycraigy01]

havent saw any tests of X5675 VS W3690

[@KomradeShotabollokov]

Really enjoyed that (and the UT background), thanks for the video.

[@ryanrazer1]

Cool music and editing with it. Nice vid!

[@sr-fw7xk]

switch from 920 to w3690 today! huge difference and totally worth it

[@MineMineMelon]

One of your best videos yet! Great work!

[@noleftturnunstoned]

I enjoyed the hand held panning shots. Good effort

[@nawkwan]

I've been using the 990x for 8 years, which has the same factory clock speed as the W3690, and I am particularly impressed with the Xeon's (generally) lower voltage requirement(s). From my experience (and those shared by others), 4.6GHz on the i7 requires vCore of at least 1.5v. I have a stable overclock at 4.62GHz which requires 1.54 vCore.

[@opoxious1592]

I managed a stable 4.6Ghz on my i7990x wit a vcore of 1.4800

[@EvilMmM]

THAT UNREAL TOURNAMENT music ohhh how i missed that :(

[@Tutankhamun1333]

Back nearly four years ago i scored a Asus Rampage 3 Formula, Complete in retail box and 90% of boxed accessories for $115 Aud with postage and currently the second owner of it. Also got a Core i7 920 D0 stepping for $110 Aud with postage and today i STILL have them and the i7 is rocking a stable 50% overclock with 1.375Vcore. Also that C0 920 is a damn good chip as most never go past 3.8Ghz with that voltage so consider yourself lucky to have that chip.

[@herbertbrown8683]

Excellent video showed me more things I am learning about Xeon CPUs thanks keep them coming love the take on Xeon how it can be used in gameing

[@dominicskywalker]

The W3690 has support on the 2010-2012 Mac Pro. I’ll be putting one in my system

[@Knix6593]

Ah yes,this video was much better than the previous one, keep improving on b-roll!

[@kennyj4366]

I really enjoyed that. Seeing the first i7 preforming the way it was. It was gratifying lol. I had one of those as my main system up until 18 months ago. I still have it, well my son has it. We put the x5680 in it. We have it overclocked a bit, just under 4Ghz with 24GB of Ram. My son loves it. Thanks again for your video. 👍🙂👍

[@randomdaveYT]

Unreal Tournament!! Love it, still have it on every pc, and wife and I play it A LOT

[@PaulieVideos]

I am a simple man, I hear UT soundtrack, I like

[@albinargelius4508]

PaulieVideos oewss

[@waslos36]

You have a Yu-Gi-Oh card as profile picture?

[@HassaanALal]

This was an amazing video dude. Awesome and keep it up.

[@qwerty74]

Thanks for this! I was thinking about it too! Looks like I'm gonna settle for the W3680 since it's $40 cheaper.

[@mikem9536]

Depends on your motherboard, if you can overclock with the BIOS, then the cheaper CPU's make more sense, if you have a cheaper OEM motherboard (no BIOS overclocking), then the unlocked CPU's are better.

[@dsfaran6461]

W3690 vs x5690 which will give more fps in games?

[@ineligible2267]

I own one of these, absolutely amazing CPU. Not even a 1080 is held back by it with a small overclock.

[@suoyidl2654]

Let me introduce you to the pci 2.0 bandwith limitations (5%

[@dubment]

It would have been nice of you to include power usage figures, taking that in to consideration I'm sure that you wouldn't have been so enthusiastic about lga1366 since the power bill alone would have made up for the difference to get on a newer and more efficient platform...

[@tonyarzate90]

Is that the unreal tournament music?

[@oblivious.clairvoyant5284]

Oh duuude! UT background sound? its been well over a decade

[@zachsam9076]

wow!! you finally upload! grate job bro

[@c1nc078]

Reccomended to me 4 years after release and instantly subbed bc A XEON PROCESSOR B THE FUCKING UNREAL TOURNEY MUSIC

[@danielmandoki5376]

on paper the W3690 supports max 24GB of RAM, but you are using 48GB for testing. im a little confused

[@hblankpc]

Unregistered 8GB sticks didn't exist when the spec sheet was written, so at the time 6x4GB was the most you could have

[@danielmandoki5376]

@@hblankpc thanks man. Btw cool channel. Subscribed 👍

[@rameshraghothama8324]

If the board had a firmware update then yes.

[@samohraje2433]

X5690 user here. I've got mine recently overclocked from running it stock for almost a decade to 4.6GHz and i noticed that my CPU needs a bit lower voltage. VDroop LVL2 and 1.37V. At 1.36 it is stable in Ycruncher for a while but when the benchmark test switch to another instruction set i've got bluescreen so i set it at 1.37 and it is rock solid. 12 threaded beast. But my second PC is on 1155 Z77 mobo paired with 32GB ram and i7 2600K. That cpu is also hugely overclocked from max turbo 3.8 to 4.8GHz but i don't know exactly if i did that or it already was like that but after like 6-7 months i have to increase a voltage by clicking only once PLUS key on a keyboard and now i'm at 1.43V... i think the next cpu will be delided 3770K because it supports faster ram and has a better bandwidth. And 3770K at 4.5GHz is a bit better and faster and more importantly it runs cooler in terms of performance as 2600K. I don't have enough money to buy a new PC but i really don't need to.. i like old stuff. It is pretty much like a hobby, overclocking, tweaking everything in a bios to absolute peak performance. As For both PC i have watter cooling installed, the X5690 never reach over 67c and i found on Alliexpress better passive heatsink for north bridge ICH and VRAM for my motherboard. With water cooling so the power delivery for the cpu and crucial components stays nice and chilly.

[@SRNF]

Great vid. Hope you can answer these questions for me! Forums seem to be mixed on this but isn't the 48gb on x58 usability pointless? Does the memory controller even utilize it past 24gb? (I know you can it to register its there but does the x58's memory controller use it past 24gb? Secondly with the DDR3 pushed past 1600... Isn't it only capable of utilizing 1366 (Speaking of the W3690 ) Thanks, I am curious to upgrade more stuff on my x58 sli classified !

[@mikem9536]

Depends on the ram, x58 doesn't like dual sided ram if you're using more than 3 sticks, so it's easy to hit 24GB's using 3 sticks but if you want 48 GB's you'll need single sided ram.

[@Russkiman96]

​@@mikem9536 using gskill ripjaws ddr3 2rx8 (dual ranked) 1600mhz 10.10.10.30 xmp 6x8gb dimms working just fine on x58 boards tested on p6t-deluxe-v2 and on p6x58d-premium. Also x58 xeons and i7s support ecc but only low density ram. tested and can confirm on p6t-se mobo i7 920 running with 2rx8 ecc dimms. It will also work with ecc reg dimms marked with r e.g. (2rx8 pc3-10600r). can also confirm that high density ddr3 ecc reg ram will not work on consumer x58 mobo so anything including 4rx8 (quad ranked) in the name e.g. (4rx8 pc3-10600r). I presume that 4rx8 pc3-10600e non registered ecc ram wont work either in standard x58 mobo reason being is that the intel chipset will not communicate with high density memory similar to cheap ddr2 4gb dimms marked as amd only being that they are quad ranked/high density. Just fyi u cannot mix different types of dimms e.g. if i have normal 2rx8 pc3-10600 non ecc ram i cant add 2rx8 pc3-10600e ecc or 2rx8 pc3-10600r registered ecc ram to my system but i can chose to replace non ecc ram with either 2rx8 pc3-10600e or 2rx8 pc3-10600r ram as a upgrade. The speed of the ram used in my example doesnt matter what matters is whether its high density 4r(4 rows) or low density 1r, 2r (1 row or 2 row) 2r ram will not overclock as well but it preforms better than 1r ram which will overclock more as there are less access rows to strain the memory controller. The other important thing is making sure u dont mix different types of ram so keeping non ecc ddr3 L, U ,S (no indication) (2rx8 pc3-10600L, 2rx8 pc3-10600U, 2rx8 pc3-10600S, 2rx8 pc3-10600) separate from ddr3 ecc and ecc low voltage (2rx8 pc3-10600E, 2rx8 pc3L-10600E) and separate ecc registered and ecc reg low voltage (2rx8 pc3-10600R, 2rx8 pc3L-10600R) from normal ecc and standard ram.

[@CJBuzzy]

Hit me in the feels with the UT Facing Worlds track

[@sanderford6760]

hello The Obsoletist are u still active in youtube? thanks

[@hblankpc]

Kinda, I still read and reply to comments, and watch other videos of course, but I haven't had the willpower to actually finish any videos for a while

[@gaiustrollius9920]

This makes me miss x58 even more than I already do…I wish my mainboard didn't give up the ghost.

[@mikem9536]

The new ryzen's are a good bang for you're buck if you're not hung up on bragging rights.

[@mikem9536]

Like the 8700k... sure it's faster 50% faster than my system... but as it is my CPU hardly ever breaks a sweat.

[@gaiustrollius9920]

Well, sure it's good (My ryzen 5 1600 smashes my i7 920 at 3.5 GHz in multi-threaded tasks), but it doesn't have the charm x58 does.

[@shaunskii]

I miss mine too. I built two different builds and sold them both to friends who still are using them. Wish I kept my first one that had a w3690 at 4.5ghz in a Asus Rampage III Extreme mobo, 24gb of 2000mhz Dominators, and a Asus ROG 780 poseidon. All pieces have red and and black that match. He has since added a second poseidon for sli. The second build was a w3680 at 4.4ghz in a Asus Sabertooth mobo, 24gb of 1600mhz Dominators, and a refrence EVGA 780ti. Miss the platform alot. I would do another build if I were to find a sweet deal locally, but will probably look to a newer platform on the next build. X58 was just so fun.

[@LOL60345]

this just replaced my 960 after a decade.. having so much fun OCing

[@DaRyteJuan]

I love your slightly snarky delivery.

[@hikaru-live]

I have seen some Chinese sellers offering dual LGA1366 boards at $30 or so. Maybe you can make an episode with dual Xeon X5690 on one of those boards?

[@ArtificialNinea9]

Got my 990x to 4820mhz with 24gb 2140mhz cl9 ram, this gave me a cinebench score of 1110 multicore and a singlecore of 146 ;)

[@Thefuror38500]

Just for comparison, the much recent e5 1650v4 does 1200 cb in multi... thos 2011 chips are still awsome

[@jarule8065]

I also noticed that upgrading 4 core xeon (w3550) to six core (x5680) also increased my ram speed from 1066 to 1333 automatically. I think it may be that 4 core has 2 memory channels and 6 core has 3 or it may be something else. Bottom line - additional advantage of 4 core to six core upgrade is faster ram.

[@hblankpc]

It's not the extra cores that do that, Intel just specced up the memory controller on some of their 32nm 1366 CPUs

[@gruenkragena.z.4597]

X5650?

[@IwannaPC]

Great video as usual!

[@herbertbrown8683]

What motherboard would you recommend if I am just useing this CPU Xeon for gaming money is not a issue I like what I see so I like to build one useing a 1080 time but like a recommend on a good motherboard for this CPU thanks keep those videos comeing learning alot

[@hblankpc]

Going by world records on HWBot the best boards seem to be the Asus Rampage III or Gigabyte X58A-OC. Someone in Russia got their W3690 to 6.86GHz under liquid nitrogen on a Rampage III Black Edition

[@hookhandtech5567]

Good luck finging a 1366 motherboard for a budget friendly price...the chip can be found for cheap...no boards though.

[@SheepyChris]

Yeah, that's why he explains the entire price situation from 8:00 and beyond.

[@IncenderyLemon]

Where in the video does it say anything about this being a budget build?

[@TheColonelK1LL]

I bought my Asus P6T in an auction on ebay for $79

[@davebell06]

I got an i8 920, 16gb kit of corsair ddr3, a gigabyte x58 board,a corsair h50 and a coolermaster case for £130. I find you're more likely to get those X58 boards for better prices on local selling sites like gumtree/craigslist as opposed to ebay where everything tends to have a price markup.

[@konellin189]

I have got a G1 assasin, a sabertooth and a pt6 deluxe...each for under 120 euros....BUT they where in whole builds...I got 3 PCs, with i7920-930 and all the other stuff like ram and PSU etc....working system so do speak...so if you like to tweak around with a xeon build, search for PC´s and hope the owner dont know that they have precious motherboard inside....I ll keep the best fro the pc...than build one and the rest I sold again after all I managed to get 250 euros more out of it...

[@devilamv7279]

I Just Checked! Xeon W3690 is stronger than i5 3470,3570 and almost equal to i7 3770! :D

[@100500daniel]

So i guess its close to my i5 4570 oc'd @3.5 ghz.

[@imnota]

Equal to a 4770.

[@thepro08]

@@imnota faster than the 4770. I own both.... trully amazing hardware intel had 10 years ago..... faster than 90% of the current cpus....

[@arisupersnake]

@@thepro08 yeah my r5 2600 does 1430 cinebench at 4.2 ghz on a sub 100 dollar board.

[@arisupersnake]

@@thepro08 faster than 90% of intel's 0 progress made in 6 years rehash of sandy bridge u mean.

[@5abivt]

Great video. I have an oc 920 to I think 3.4 ghz. Would I see much of an improvement in Games going with the Xeon ?

[@SeñorDossierOficial]

Happy Holidays Obsoletist :3

[@DanielCardei]

Hp z400 owner. On 31 at 4.1 it crased after 30min. Staying good at 30 with 4ghz.

[@Adamgreen735]

YEEEESSSS....i just changed out my i7-920 for an x5675 but my msi x58 platinum is all locked up so abit of BCLK and shes at 3.9ghz....and it seems it doesnt want to go anymore....hyper 212 evo cooling, temps are at 24c at idle so heat is not the problem, maybe my ram which is only g.skill 1333mhz, obviously with the BCLK ur ram goes up too, so could be the problem, im happy at 3.9ghz, my i7 was at 3.8ghz, but now i have 6 cores 12 threads aswell. YEEEEEET!!!

[@Herbert2892]

Have you ever used VideoPad to edit videos? The layout of this Kdelnlive resembles very much VideoPad layout. I want yo know if its better.

[@hblankpc]

Nope, I switched to Davinci Resolve and I'm never going back

[@Herbert2892]

@@hblankpc] Thanks, i want to create a tech channel here in Brazil and im goint to test it.

[@hblankpc]

Best of luck! If you need any help hmu on Discord or Twitter or something

[@vld_zerx]

Hello, which is better, xeon w3690 or 5690?

[@Isaax]

But can it run GTA V???

[@hblankpc]

cease

[@hblankpc]

Someone missed the joke...

[@Isaax]

TheKungFuRobber Well, actually...

[@AlphazerstoererX]

Isaax but can it run Crysis? ;)

[@mikem9536]

Yes it can, GTA V loves cores and this has 6... Best way to get a cheap motherboard for these is buying a used Dell T3500 workstation (much better quality then their laptops/consumer products) from newegg and then buy the cpu from ebay... I lucked out got one 6 months ago for just over $200 canadian that had a w3690 already in it.

[@Transpower]

I have an old X58 motherboard with the i7-990X CPU. I would like to be able to do faster engineering calculations; I don't play games. Would you be able to compare the W3690 Xeon CPU and the i7-990X on the GeekBench floating point test?

[@jashelps]

They perform literally the same with those workloads.

[@abdullah522]

Man this or i7 3770k which one is better for gaming

[@maxmoko3577]

I use a Xeon5670 for like 2 years.I have no problem.Its great for content creation,consumes very low power at stock speeds ~80W TDP and overclocks like a charm 4,61 Ghz possible ~

[@gregorymaine9615]

The W3690 is truly the best LGA1366 Processor. I just built up a system with one on an EVGA X58 Classified motherboard, and paired it up with a RTX 2080 and 16gb of Ram, soon to be 24gb. I have not overclocked the processor or ram yet, however it can run Battlefield 5 with DX12 enabled at 4k ultra settings with ease, and delivers respectable, almost playable framerates with DXR enabled at 4k ultra though it's a little glitchy. Cost of the upgrade from a i7-920 was $86, and totally worth it!

[@opoxious1592]

I seems like thate the W3690 supports a max of 24GB of ram, while the other chips like the i7 990x supports 48GB of ram ( i have installed this ammount of ram). And some say that the Xeon 5675 and 5690 can even support up te 96GB of ram. For now 24GB is plenty for gaming, but it's nice that you can upgrade when nessecary. Some games are no recommended to have 32 GB of ram

[@gregorymaine9615]

@opoxious1592 not totally true.... I had the W3690 running with between 32gb and 40gb of RAM at one point before I retired it. The Intel spec page on that CPU disappeared for a while and now has a new one. I recall the old page listing 48gb as max.

[@opoxious1592]

@@gregorymaine9615 Ok, that's really nice to know. because my decision to choose for the x5690 was based for the fact that it could support a much higher ammount of ram. But it seems that also the W3690 can support much more than the official number of 24gb

[@DrQuin851]

I built my x58 back in '08 with an i7-920, gigabyte UD4P rev.1, 4 GB 1600 RAM and a raptor 500 GB HDD and it briefly housed an 8800 ultra before I went to a 9800 GT. All powered by a 1Kw BFG PSU. I still run that system with the exception of added SSDs, 24 GB triple channel ram underclocked to 1600 and now a 1070 FE. I just ordered a w3690 off ebay for $57 USD. Got another week till it shows up. I wonder what will give out first, processor won't support some new instruction set that games need or pci-e gen2 bandwidth finally not being enough. Here's to lasting through two more GPU generations before abandoning the x58 platform.

[@hblankpc]

There have already been some games like Journey that refused in the past to launch without AVX, though all such games have been patched to run without it AFAIK. Most likely scenario IMO is that 9th gen consoles will mark the end of X58's AAA viability

[@jigsey.]

I've a i7 940...would this cpu be a worthwhile upgrade

[@hblankpc]

Yes, the two extra cores and 50% more L3 cache help a lot. I'd go for the W3680 or X5675 to save money though.

[@B00h44]

I disabled HT on my x5650, that helped stability on high OC's (as threads < per core speed)

[@antares2323]

Nice video, I'm definitely subscribing ! And I have a question: I'm getting a new PC (my actual Core 2 Duo is really on its knees with basic usage) What do you think would be the best ? A Xeon W3680 on a Precision T3500 or a Core i7 2600 on a Optiplex 790 MT ? I can get both system for pretty much the same price (160 euro for the Precision, 180 for the Optiplex), I'm not really gaming on it, just indie game I can't find on my Xbox One (I'm gonna put a GT730 in it, not a gaming card at all, tho with the 12GB of RAM and the SSD it's gonna fly) I think the W3680 would be best because of its 6 core, but maybe the i7 would beat it because of its newer architecture, what do you think I should get ? Thanks, and nice video ;)

[@hblankpc]

The newer architecture of the i7 isn't nearly enough to beat out the 2 extra cores on the W3690, so go for the latter unless you care a lot about power consumption. The E5 makes things interesting though, it's slightly faster than the i7 and on the same architecture (so it still loses to the W3690) but it has an upgrade path to an even newer CPU with anywhere from 4 to 8 cores should you choose that in the future. TL;DR: best performance now: W3690 best power consumption: i7-2600 good performance now, best performance later: E5 1620

[@antares2323]

To be honest I don't care about power consumption XD Yeah I saw that ! For 180 EUR, I can get a ThinkStation S30 with a E5 1620 v1 with 8GB of RAM and a Quadro (don't know the model tho), and that computer supports up to 12 core, so yeah it's pretty interesting :D Thanks for your quick reply ;)

[@bdhale34]

Multipliers aren't locked downwards though, you just can't go up on a locked chip. Higher base clock + lower multiplier from my experience generally outperforms having the higher clocks on just the CPU. For example an i7 875k (unlocked of course) set to a 29x multiplier will get you up around 3.86GHz clock speed or you can leave the multiplier at 22x (the default stock upper limit for the 870/875k/x3470) and raise the bclk to 175MHz to get the same 3.86GHz clock speed, but instead of 1596MHz ram you get 2106MHz ram (if your ram can handle it otherwise you can just change the ram multiplier to get it closer to or in spec) and faster clocks on pretty much everything else as well so the performance isn't even really close.. 5-15% higher performance from using the bclk instead of taking advantage of the multiplier being able to go up. I've never personally found having an unlocked multiplier to be any advantage really since in the early days fsb was essentially the only thing you could manipulate to overclock a CPU so when black editions and X/K skus started appearing it was just meh to me as I still overclock on fsb/bclk more often than not even on unlocked chips.

[@Airbag888]

Thanks for the video. Can you please mention your room temp for your tests.. I see reviewers often forget to mention that and with my 30C+ room temps my results/expectations always are far from the mark

[@AndreKirsanov]

Purchased W3690 from ebay last year for 90€ My system: Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD5 Xeon W3690 @ 4ghz 48GB DDR3 1600Mhz (6x 8gb) 2x RX 580 8gb in Crossfire PCI-E NVMe M.2 ssd samsung evo PCI-E usb3 and sata3 card with samsung pro ssd Had I7 920 before. I think I can prolong my systems life for another 1-2 years. Have had this system since 2012. If you buy smart you can easily keep system for some time.

[@vladimir7838]

Xeon W3690 is still great chip

[@patrickwaterman4959]

great video bro, is the Xeon W3680 good for gaming?

[@Thefuror38500]

Same shit, and it's really good for gaming, but you have to get a good x58 board, and if too expensive... well just buy a b450 and r5 2600

[@mouaxiong8618]

What were the temps for the i7 920 with the Evo 212?

[@hblankpc]

I'm assuming you mean temps? Really high, under sustained load it was pretty much always in the 90s C.Don't remember idle or stock temps

[@hanakomisa]

_lurks quietly and sees that Kory uploaded a new vid_

[@hblankpc]

👀

[@PersianImm0rtal]

What is the difference between this and a x5690?

[@hblankpc]

W3690 has an unlocked multiplier, X5690 has dual-socket support and more instructions that are helpful for virtualization

[@oconel10dark18]

What you think about Xeon w3690 vs Xeon x5690, which one you think is better?

[@hblankpc]

I'm partial to the W3690, because of the unlocked multiplier that lets you overclock on OEM motherboards. The advantages of the X5690 are only really relevant in a server environment, or an enthusiast board like the EVGA SR-2.

[@sr-fw7xk]

i got it. it has crazy amount of overclocking ! really happy with it! old school muscle lol

[@boostergold9160]

Yes... thank you for this video.

[@Cactuspractice12]

What's the opening drum and bass tune?

[@Archangel96]

but will it run the witcher 3 on ultra

[@HeyImGaminOverHere]

I absolutely love my dual X3680s. The absolute BIGGEST issue with it is the fact that it will not boot into Windows 8 and up. It does however get 1500 or so in Cinebench R15.

[@hblankpc]

Is that because the BIOS doesn't support CMPXCHG16B? That's pretty lame if so, shame on whoever made that board

[@rameshraghothama8324]

Don't run anything above Windows 7 Ultimate.

[@mitchmcdonald8844]

Hi The Obsoletist. Enjoyed watching this video and i've got a question im hoping you can answer for me. I recently got a w3565 for $20 which should be here any day. I bought a Dell T3500 with a w3505 dual core @ 2.53ghz and upgraded to a free e5506 quad @ 2.1ghz. Paired with the gtx 750ti i can still do some pretty great gaming on the 5506 and i know it will be insanely better with the 3565. What im wondering is when im ready to purchase the final cpu for this system am i better with this w3690 or would i be better of with an x5687 quad @3.6ghz for gaming?

[@hblankpc]

The W3690 is better for modern games that scale well with higher core counts, while the X5687 is only a tiny bit faster in games that don't (since it's 133MHz faster). Personally, I'd recommend grabbing a W3680 and using XTU (instructions in reply to pinned comment) to overclock it, since you won't be able to overclock with an X series Xeon.

[@mitchmcdonald8844]

The Obsoletist thank you man much appreciated!

[@svstore1908]

Hi man can you make more videos like this but compare the old powerful CPU vs the New tech CPU with the same price range ? Great video btw, subbed !

[@Schattennebel]

X58 was always interesting for me but sadly unafordable. Until now, so I build a PC with an MSI X58 PRO-E, X5680 / W3680, Prolimatech Genesis, 24GB RAM, EVGA GTX 1070, MX500 SSD, all packed in a Lancool PC-K58 case. The X5680 works fine under 1,45V and is set to 3,8Ghz - 85° at benchmarks. Later I got a W3680 and want it to get 4,0Ghz but this time I would use a Kryosheet graphenpad. So far I am happy with that system.

[@420region]

What is better- x5690 or 3690???

[@user-kr3jv3is1r]

seems pretty equal cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Xeon-X5690-vs-Intel-Xeon-W3690/m16752vsm9677 look at things like price, overclocking...

[@makiseify]

10940x L3 cache is lower than 990x also base clock lower than 990x

[@ApSinghGaming]

Is it better then i5-3470 in gamming ?

[@hblankpc]

Usually yes. There are times when the 3470 will be faster (old games that use 1 or 2 cores mainly, or newer games that heavily use AVX instructions), but for the most part today's games will run a lot smoother on the Xeon, *especially* if you overclock it

[@tarekmahmudbhuiyan7368]

Does Xeon W3670 have an unlocked multiplier as well? I couldn't find any relevant info.

[@hblankpc]

It doesn't

[@ezwider4652]

What motherboard are you using

[@D-2-the-no]

i run a z400 series 2 board with a w3680 oc'd to 4.1ghz, 24gb of tri-channel hynix ram and a gtx 1070. it runs everything you throw at it. amazing cpu.

[@miatageekscott]

My set up is as follows, HP Z800 with dual X5687, 48 gigs of ECC RAM. 1070 GTX(200 bucks) SSD boot drive, and a PCI-E SSD from 2011( 75 bucks for 1.4tb) which is my game drive. I think between birthday and Christmas gifts, I have spent a total of 900 bucks on the system and will play most modern titles like AC Valhalla

[@ubxoldier]

Is it worth to go for X5670 on X58 against an FX 6300 on 990 Chipset? What's the advantage?

[@hblankpc]

An X5670 will offer way better performance than a 6300 (twice as fast when all cores/threads are used), but switching will mean you lose AVX instructions. Certain applications like H.265 encoding suffer greatly without it, and future games will probably require it. Assassin's Creed Odyssey for example required AVX at launch but that requirement got patched out, but Ubi might not bother doing that in the future. If you don't already have a board, don't bother going X58. Ryzen makes waaaay more sense for a new build.

[@ubxoldier]

@@hblankpc Thank you for the detailed reply. I had bought an I7 920 and MSI X58 recently, was planning to replace the I7 with X5670. I am currently using an FX 6300 and Crosshair 5 Formula, hence wanted to know if it is a good idea to replace it with the Xeon+X58 and gain some extra performance. I am building a new Ryzen rig as well, all components have been bought except the processor, currently the plan is on hold as Ryzen 3000 series would be released in few months. Good informative video btw, liked and subbed.

[@Z_Pavel]

why is i7 990x costs much more if it just a bit slower?

[@hblankpc]

It's all in the branding. "i7 Extreme Edition" grabs attention, but "Xeon" doesn't

[@benr4469]

please make a guide how to oc this.

[@dexsters5643]

Is a E5645 worth for 12$ X5690 for 25$?

[@hblankpc]

That's a crazy good deal for an X5690, I'd go with that even for manual overclocking

[@dexsters5643]

@@hblankpc Some guy randomy on facebook was selling alot of xeons from lga 771 to 2011-3 and the X5690 was in between for 20 euro and the other 1366 xeons were 10 to 15

[@dexsters5643]

@@hblankpcjust postage cost like 5 extra

[@hblankpc]

Yeah definitely go for the X5690, at that price you can use it for a few years and probably still resell it for a small profit.

[@dexsters5643]

@@hblankpc once i got the X5690, one of my friends offerent 250 euro for the cpu my rampage board and 24gb ram (non ecc) i had 3x8gb 2133mhz HyperX fury dimms

[@brianjoseph2303]

Just bought a x58 classified EVGA Mobo for 5 bucks at one of my auctioneer buddies estate sales. Still in box with all accessories. Got lucky there. I guess I need to get a Xeon now. Im in the middle of a ryzen build for my daughter. Looks like now I get to play as well. I would rather have her liquid cooled ryzen 7 1700x though. I payed 120 bucks for her Asrock x370 killer Mobo. Too bad gpus are ridiculous.

[@gregorymaine9615]

Heads up if you haven't already found this out, not all of the X58 Classified boards will support the Xeon chipsets right out of the box. I had to modify mine to get the processor to work by soldering some jumper pads on the board and preforming a bios update (honestly, the update was the hardest part of the whole project).

[@waslos36]

Can you make a overclock guide for this xeonW3690 please,

[@superstite21]

The x5690 can work on a dual cpu board.. like the dual cpu mac pro 4.1