The Unknown Truth Behind KTM's TPI!

[@KiwiYoshi1100]

Uniflow is a friend of mine. He is a very clever guy who comes up with all sorts of amazing engineering ideas from the TPI mention in this to making and selling engine/propeller reduction gearboxes for aircraft. A very decent and honest man who has my (and many others) utmost respect.

[@Kelly-oq9nh]

I just can’t believe that you don’t have 100s of thousands of subscribers. Your videos are so well done, with this maybe being the best one yet. Your research capabilities and organizational skills are outstanding. You are editing and presentation are top-tier. So well done ! Keep at it. Please. Cheers from Washington State USA.

[@guidohl9444]

Good on you for publishing this video. Classic case of big business disregarding the true creators. Neil is an engineering wonder of the world and the very least ktm could do is acknowledge his talent. And the gall to try and patent it as theirs for more cash! Bastards. Lucky TM were there to assist.

[@pauln6803]

It's not as predatory as you might think. It sounds silly but so patent applications are just to stop another company/individual from doing so first. KTM might well have known their application would be challenged, but at least that ensures they get to use the design licence free.

[@Shereefe]

This channel is overdue for going viral !! Keep up the good work young brother. PS love my carb’d 300. Especially in cool weather

[@jacobac42]

I'm kind of surprised that the process to develop the KTM TPI was such a large challenge. Might be a daft comment, but at the same time we had EFI in two stroke snowmobiles since around 1991 with the Polaris Indy 500 EFI. It used a throttle body fuel injection system with a crankcase inducted oil pump. Worked pretty well and was reliable, along with being relatively simple, especially considering the regular Indy 5 used a carb engine that was almost identical apart from the intake. Just seems like a very complicated way of doing things compared to other powersports applications that are quite similar.

[@howelllunn7989]

Or the development of two-stroke outboard engines, it's been happening since the '90's

[@tjroelsma]

It could be that the problem lies in squeezing the most power out of the engine. Snowmobile engines aren't tuned for the highest power, they're tuned for reliability. In the video it was already explained that heat is a problem and the heat rises significantly when you want to squeeze more power out of an engine.

[@thebros-br3to]

​@@tjroelsma Snowmobiles are manufactured 100% with high horsepower in mind. They went efi because they are making more power and it was harder to tune. Sleds see huge elevation and temperature changes drastically in one ride and that was what was causing reliability issues because of tuning restriction on carbs. If it wasn't about hp and just reliability they wouldn't be manufacturing these sleds with turbos.

[@tjroelsma]

@@thebros-br3to There's a difference between an engine being tuned for high horsepower and maximum horsepower. Altitude is always a problem with carbs, so they went with EFI, not to raise the amount of horsepower, but to avoid the drop of horsepower. Snowmobiles also use a CVT and for a CVT you don't want peak horsepower, you want optimum torque in the range where the CVT works the best, which is between 50-70% of WOT. Everything above that does increase the speed, but drops the torque, which is why snowmobiles can effectively pull heavy sleds, because in that midrange the engine delivers maximum torque to the CVT.

[@user-pp5or5og4k]

Kawasaki and Sea-Doo also had this technology in their personal watercraft 20 years ago

[@derNOZE]

Fun fact KTM also stole TBI. Yamaha used to make snowmobiles that used more or less the same technology as TBI. However, Yamaha's patent expired and so KTM could use it. greetings from Austria👋

[@719vol]

If a patent expires, and another company takes up the technology….that is NOT theft.

[@GIGABACHI]

@@719vol NAH, NAH, it's known as LEGAL theft.

[@719vol]

@@GIGABACHI ??? Motrin/Ibuprofen. Tylenol/Acetomenophrin. Edison/Light Bulb. Ford/Assembly line, etc, etc.

[@jackfrost8854]

To my knowledge Yamaha only had HPDI system on there outboards,never in the snowmobile world.Seem the system offered no benefit over a four-stroke.Hence why they unveiled the RX-1 in 2002...the rest is history

[@719vol]

@ HPDI injectors had issues at ultra low temps. Made it Not suitable for snow use. SnowTrax magazine documented this back in early 00s.

[@x_apollyon2822]

Being an early adopter of TBI with a 24' 300 EXC , I really hope this doesn't come back to bite me in the rear... Hopefully they have the tech figured out and we dont suffer any early adopter issues. Great video as always.

[@human1513]

Outboard motors like Mercury had injected 2 strokes almost 50 years ago. I converted a 300 TPI to TBI and now it is reliable. I did it just before KTM started to change the 300 XC 's to TBI from TPI. The KTM TPI 300's had approx. 10+ ECU maps over the years. And the throttle body air bypass screw was set differently on every year.

[@OtisFlint]

21 & 22 were reliable

[@human1513]

@@OtisFlint Big wrong!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I have a 2022 KTM 300 XC TPI it was a huge piece of crap. I know of many 2022's around the world that would seize. The largest dealer in my country had mine multiple times and could not determine why it never had power and would cut in and out when riding it. It cut out once so bad when they were test riding it that is flipped over backwards right in front of me. It seized at 7.4 hours. KTM replaced the crankshaft, piston & cylinder. I paid the labor. It seized at 7.4 hours again. Less than 6 minutes on it. KTM replaced it with a complete new crate motor and a new oil pump. KTM covered it all 100%. Then it ran like a different bike. After 2 hours I turned it into a TBI (before the 2023's came out with TBI) and to premix. It has been good now. I have been riding bikes for 40+ years, am a licenced mechanic, a control and instrumentation Engineering Tech and a mechanic tech. I could not find the problem. I do not have all the diagnostic tools the dealership has. I never heard from anyone what the issue(s) where that my or any KTM was having. The dealer told me they had more bikes with poor power also.

[@benfox8571]

Re-watching this... still impressed

[@benfox8571]

Thanks for this. Another great documentary! more please.

[@bigcatgarage7822]

The Emissions exemptions is a US thing. If they sell fewer than 5000 units yearly and have fewer than 500 us employees.

[@SaiTorrKalFas]

How does it work that Sherco, Beta, TM etc still can sell twostroke bikes in the EU though?

[@jimtitt3571]

​@@SaiTorrKalFasThere is a exemption in the EU for enduro and trials machines.

[@danielsinclair5328]

This video is so well done. I'm from New Zealand and I've actually met this dude, he is so so smart! He most definitely got ripped off!!!

[@suzuki06g]

Interesting video!! I have to admit that I'm in the US and I bought a 2018 250xcw TPI (the first injected KTM). On my first ride I thought that I made a major mistake, in simple terms it was slow. BUT, after doing what's known as the "idle screw mod", plus a medium compression head and ECU tune from TSP, it finally ran like it should. From there I thought that it was perfect.

[@noahthomas6407]

You know, Stihl released an 80cc two stroke fuel injected chainsaw a while back. It’s such a great saw, they definitely got it right. The power is great thru the whole power range and it’s smaller and lighter than other saws of similar displacement

[@Superdisco199]

Awesome video. My feelings were that ktm were reposnding to years of posts on bulletin boards in mid '00's asking for injected 2 stokes that would make them feel like 4 strokes. Ktm wanted to be first in market but had the fallback explanation of emissions if performance was critisized. Ktm struggled with any new tech like when they tried slipper pistons and split crankcase oiling (on 4 strokes). It was never going to go smoothly.

[@jpconard]

Why didn't they try TBI first. Seems more logical and easier and matches all other bikes and many cars still.

[@basementracer]

So I have the Te300i Pro from Husqvarna, that TBI engine is superb. She rips, she lugs, she idles. I also have the FE350 which I also love. I can tell you that with the advent of TBI, the low end torque is akin to a 4 banger. TBI is a god send and one of the best most important inventions in 2 smoke history IMHO. If you don't own a TBI bike you are missing out. It's just that simple. With TBI we have moved on past carbs, it is what it is.

[@johnnyreb86]

I have a 2019 tpi 300 and it’s the best bike I’ve ever owned. 250 hours and just started on its 3rd piston. Runs perfect, great mileage and no mixing gas.

[@gpaull2]

The 2018 carb models routinely go 200-300 hours on the first piston.

[@johnnyreb86]

@@gpaull2 I could have easily left the original piston in as it ran great, but the risk you run is the skirt cracking and dropping into the crank from the negative/positive pressure change every stroke. The manual recommends 80 hour intervals due to that, not ring wear or loss of compression/power. Plus the top end is cheap and easy to replace.

[@Mattbadger43]

What great videos, keep it up

[@KRANKiT]

Thanks mate!

[@jpconard]

I got ripped off on a TPI, sold it and got YZ250X, happy since.

[@chetmanley9781]

Yeah i’ve heard some horror stories with tpi. I’m one of the lucky ones. 200hours on the stock piston and i’ve changed 1 spark plug

[@ianjohnson5365]

If you get the opportunity to ride a TBI you should at least try it

[@willbohm6533]

My tpi has 140 problem free hours on it. Original everything. Best bike ive ever owned.

[@stacksmasher]

I was not sure TBI was going to be as good as a carb but holy cow it really makes a difference at 6-12K ft!!!

[@robertdixon4554]

What about the TPI injection that Polaris has been using successfully on their snowmobile’s for years before KTM ?

[@Nordspets]

Or the rotax e-tec system which started on outboard engines

[@chep5958]

Great content as per usual mate. Keep it up!

[@ShaneVerhoogt]

Great video brother 👍 Currently raining cat's and dogs down here in the land down under so my TE511 having some work done. I grew up racing two strokes but found them hard to manage, especially my KX500... I'm not the most gifted rider but i do look back and wonder how i would have gone on a KX450F.... I actually think i would have been a better racer on a four stroke. Keep up the awesome work, thanks mate..

[@kylenaudemotorsports8398]

One of the best examples of a Fuel injected 2 stroke had to be Evinrude's E-tec engines which made more torque and had smaller engines than 4 stroke outboards even to this Day!!!

[@PegahSye]

In Dominican rep we always had suzukis 125 that you just add oil in a side tube of oil, and the machine will blend it’s own gas and oil

[@Steveman61]

KTM mistreated their customers as paying test dummies with the TPI. But we were used to that from other models like the SD 990, 1090's etc.

[@ogasi1798]

you realise how popular the TPI was/is? Mistreated? hahahaaaaaaa

[@Superdisco199]

Been that way for years. 4CS/xplor, qtr turn fuel cap recall, different pds angles, xc4 motor, thr dry electric start.. list goes on.

[@chrischarousis3074]

KTM innovates and every brand that does that essentially does it on the back of its' customers... That being said LC8s were and still are amazing engines in almost every way. LC4 was the most powerful single up till today and still can be with a few mods and quite reliable for how much hurt riders put on it.Their dirt bikes for the most part are very rugged.LC8c is a very very good platform but suffers terribly from unreliability. Many times they're inexcusable but overall it's got it's crowd for a reason. I've put 5k kms in 2 months on a KTM 950 with 70k kms and it hasn't missed a beat, an almost 20 year old bike. Granted the service was terribly expensive for it but it's brought me more joy than bikes I had that were manufactured from 2010 till 2022 even...

[@hampusj6047]

Good video, but thanks more for the enduro tour sponsor I will definitely go there one day

[@Zt3v3]

3:48 , that is a 2005 300 EXC. 1st year for the cast finish on the swingarm, 1st year for the oval fame tubes by foot pegs.

[@Bearcats737]

meanwhile snowmobiles of all brands have successfully had fuel injection of some sort for 20 years now

[@dustinandtarynwolfe5540]

Snowmobiles which don't suffer from the same cooling issues as dirt bikes. Did you watch the video?

[@leftyeh6495]

​@@dustinandtarynwolfe5540they're actually harder to cool and stabilize. Coolant temps can fluctuate 100* up and down running from trail to powder.

[@gastonbelanger5346]

@ 83 yr’s old I have a 2024 KTM 300 TPI Erzbergrodeo, and a few days ago I spanked that puppy WFO for 18 mi up to the 10K elev on the Lands End rd Hill Climb race course to the top of Colorado’s Grand Mesa. That TPI motor has the grunt I want out of the switchback turns. My kind of Motorcycle…Ride now, die latter happy you did~~~~~~~~~~~Braaap!

[@captinktm]

What a brilliant video, I thought I recognised the trails and then realised it was Bulgaria where I now live. I have worked for KTM in the UK and they have invented very little. Just take a look at the cylinder heads on the RFS engine, now take a look at the early Husqvarna, later to become the Husaburg, maybe that is why they had to buy Husaburg? I have been riding bikes for over sixty years and fuel inject will never be as good as a carb. The first version of KTM's inject in their road bikes was (as delivered) dangerous. My last point is why does it even need to be on performance machines? Their emission's are not even calculable in world terms. Just smoke and mirrors, how much oil and how many rebuilds does the latest KTM 4 strokes need in a year, if you are to believe their own manual? Lets get all the trucks and aircraft converted to electric first. Do things that make a real difference.

[@dougfalstad5227]

I’m sure glad I’ve ordered a new Beta! The carburetor was the main reason to get it.

[@DieselNDirt_]

Excellent video, you earned a subscription mate 👍

[@petepedro350]

KTM jacked Husaberg. They stay jacken 😂

[@janisvinters8797]

In 3:53 explanation about 2T engine - forgot to mention - why fuel mixture need oil.. but oil need to be added to oil crank roads, piston etc. and when fuel travel true oil carter means it should oil those things in the way...

[@okok-oc4ko]

I thought thats how 2 strokes work, that part bothered me a bit. Made the video a bit unwatchable knowing the dude is a bit misinformed.

[@okok-oc4ko]

I thought thats how 2 strokes work, that part bothered me a bit. Made the video a bit unwatchable knowing the dude is a bit misinformed.

[@chanceycd]

I absolutely love my TPi but I also didn't get a first year model because of the issues people were having, now look! Guysvare getting 200-300hours on stock top ends

[@howelllunn7989]

Very professional video!

[@sorenkeeland7326]

14:34 rotary/brp actually had a preduction fuel injection 2 stroke in there etec system in there ski doo summit 800 models

[@tittan1500]

Also TBI 2 strokes have been incredible in snowmobiles for 20 years

[@stevebryant5299]

Thank you! Very cool Video - glad you pointed out Ossa. My Son has a Sherco 300 I have an older KTM 300 with carb my cousin has the new TPi ? The TPI seems mellow and kind a lethargic. It’s cool but not sure I have to have one yet! Also WTF are all these brands thinking getting rid of kick starters!! Ugg Elec start only - such a stupid idea! And I’m told some of the new FI bikes you can’t bump start? I’ll just keep my older bike thank you very much!

[@tittan1500]

Crazy skidoo/ Evenrude has been running DI 2 strokes for years they run great

[@CoolEyeColorado]

I love my 2021 TE250i Husqvarna. Amazing!

[@MrVonWilly]

When i bought my 2019 300 xc-w tpi, i thought the fuel injection looked very similar to the sdi injection used in ski-doo snowmobiles 2005-2010ish

[@KooLaidblue]

Could someone link or explain in detail the issue of cold water splashing on the expansion chamber please? I actually had ONE instance out of many where I crossed a cold river and my 300 tpi bike just suddenly died and after much time cranking finally started.

[@zp9898]

Was always curious as to why no one partnered with brp...thier snowmobiles burn clean and are fairly simple

[@midlan6]

From my view, TBI is step back in fuel injection technology. With TPI, there is virtually no gasoline in the cranckcase, which is good for bearings. And there is much more precise controlling amount of fuel that goes into combustion chamber. With TBI, if you close throttle, there still is some fuel left behind in the crankcase. I suspect the cost savings is he main reason why KTM switched to TBI from well established TPI. Now they don't need special cylinder with machined holes for injectors.

[@vladimirsamardzic963]

How you going to regulate temperature in cranckase and pressure without oil or gasoline that's whay they need transfer ports!!!🎯

[@midlan6]

@@vladimirsamardzic963 I didn't say you wont need transfer ports! I said you don't need machine the holes for injectors. Machining 2 holes on cylinder, let's say costs 50 USD. That's nice margin if you sell thousands and thousands units annually.

[@jedfroeming1041]

Weird all this hopplah about finally efi on a 2 stroke dirt bike. Snowmobiles started that in the 70s. Made it better in the late 80s. Perfected batteryless efi in the 90s and we were running 200hp 800cc na twins from 2000s on up. What took dirt bikes so long??

[@59901montana]

I have a '22 TPI Gas Gas EC300. It runs great! no complaints except that maybe it makes too much power for me to handle given my mediocre skills.

[@AndyHack10]

There's a common belief that fuel injection on a 2 Stroke is difficult, but it's not at all. The problem always was that everyone wanted direct injection, which is more difficult indeed. TPI (Throttle Port Injection) was the closest to direct injection, that's why they went that route. I never understood why simply replacing the carburetor with a throttle body was apparently not an option, especially since it allows a cleaner combustion. Now KTM did just that and it works miles better than the TPI. Overcomplicating things is often the biggest problem.

[@leftyeh6495]

Brp has the e-tec direct injection motors in a ton of things. Why nobody will license stuff and we keep wasting resources and raising unit costs to reinvent the same technology over and over is astounding.

[@Dh-de9op]

My god . Why they didnt just stick it prior to crankcase in the 1st place…

[@ryangreen1588]

Love the content!

[@plasticbmw]

I had a 2001 KTM 250sx carbureted and with no linkage....i wish i still had that bike

[@bigbrotherallstars43]

Keep up the good work!

[@ChrisHoffman-ed7pv]

For ten + years Rotax has had direct injection on there snowmobile engines, with great success. The technology is there. With direct injection there's 0 raw fuel in the exhaust, because fuel is injected into the cylinder after the piston has closed the exhaust port. Im sure Rotax has paton on it because neither Arctic cat or Polaris hace direct injection. But in time it will expire and hopefully other two stroke manufacturers will adopt this technology

[@Tsxtasy1]

This was a cool video, thank you!

[@ronengel4586]

Yamaha had direct injected two stroke outboards as did Tohatsu and Mercury in the 2000s but Evinrude were the first in the mid 90s although it was a troubled system. Then Brp bought Evinrude and brought out the etec system which was very successful plenty of power and very fuel efficient but then during covid Brp closed Evinrude down. Brp also uses that technology in Skidoos. Ps Mercury had port injected outboards in the mid 90s it was reliable but was not much more economical than the carby motors.

[@terrypikaart4394]

Early 90s for efi on snowmobile 2 strokes.

[@joelatkinson2080]

Another great video!!!

[@DanielHelc]

So if this is a great design for the enduro type (suffering), ahem use case, what would be your pick for woods, trail, rock, sand and mud riding from KTM offerings? :)

[@KRANKiT]

Well ... I personally have a Sherco carbureted 2 stroke and a KTM 450 4 stroke ... you can probably guess my preferences from that :)

[@nils0n239]

exc 150 tpi or 250 tpi are great for woods but if you want a do it all bike get the 300 tpi

[@craigdavies8099]

TM Racing, much better quality and no stupid air forks...

[@Blockbuster2033]

It really doesnt matter below the absolute pro level. Basically all bikes from the renowned manufacturers are really really good. KTM, Beta, Sherco, Fantic, TM, Yamaha, even Honda.

[@brother7238]

How does the bearings get oil? If its getting sucked after the bearings

[@westyorkshiregreenlaners3000]

Excellent watch 👌🏻

[@Backhurtsbad]

Great video, thank you !!!

[@The_Real_Fearless]

i have a ktm 150 exc tpi and love it

[@gt7500]

Similar to Suzuki, when they didn't recognize the Inventor of "their" "Full Floater" rear suspension design. Suzuki said that it was invented in house. But, the real Inventor was able to prove, in Court, that he was the Inventor. Suzuki had to pay royalties to the Dude, for units already produced, as well as any future models with his system. That system was lauded as the best rear suspension system decades after they had stopped production and had moved to an under shock linkage system. I would've had a hard time not going after KTM for some money! That would've set him up for life, if he would've proved it in Court.

[@johnwalker194]

The "catalyst" for fuel injected two stroke was emission laws ! See what i did there ? 😉

[@KRANKiT]

hehe :))

[@ValentinStupariu-k8m]

I hope to meet in Romaniacs Race. Good Luck.

[@KRANKiT]

Thank you!

[@Nordspets]

14:30 World’s first fuel injected 2-stroke MOTORCYCLE. Outboard engines and later snowmobiles in mid to late 00’s were way ahead of ktm.

[@zackk695]

KTM needs to repair all bikes sold with this and stand behind their bikes. I support KTM because of having 2 strokes but KTM needs to be the leader in making all pro racing fair. A bike that races should have to race its class. Example of it’s a 250 2 or 4 stroke then they race each other. This will bring back the 2 strokes because we know the 4 strokes will not being able to match up to the 2 strokes. KTM needs to get the AMA ruling changed back to the way it was with a 125 & 250 pro class and maybe even 500’s. This is where the sport will become huge. People can’t see these bikes ever so that’s a big issue. They need to get people to the local tracks to see the bikes. We need a ranking system for amateurs in every state just like BMX. To get people to t actually see the bikes up close they better get them riding close to communities so build practice tracks that are a calmer version of a huge race track. This needs to be in all parts of all cities which have middle class communities. This will allow people to drive by and see the bikes out riding. They also need new riders to be given lessons as well as be able to rent used bikes to ride till they can afford a bike. The 2 stroke bike cost cannot exceed $6,000. To do this they may need to speak with leaders such as Elon Musk and others

[@71.racing]

tbi have been done by honda, then tm take it over, now ktm try to showcase on it. :)

[@rkbyrd4432]

I just bought a GASGAS/KTM with TPI (2023 EC300), so this video has special interest for me. I love my bike, and was surprised to learn that it is really more of a KTM with "customizations" than a GASGAS. I didn't know the recent history until after I had bought the GASGAS. BTW, WTF is "homolugation?" It is mentioned in my Owner and Shop manuals, but not explained. Oh, and F*CK 4-Strokes!!! I'm moving from a tricked out 2001 Service Honda CR500AF to the GG-EC300...

[@RIPPERTON]

Ossa trials bike was NOT TBI it was CCI. Crank Case Injection. Go to my build thread on KTM forum titled CrankCase Injection on my 2020 150 EXC

[@luisloures7824]

Then you need to say everyone still the TBI from Honda EXP-2 in 1995

[@gotdirt66]

KTM saved the two stroke. for 20 yrs we wanted a EFI two stoke. The Japanese walked away while the Austrians listened to what their customers wanted. For that they have my loyalty. IDK, I look at Japanese bikes inferior to the Austrian steel

[@bullwinklebrown283]

My 2025 TX300 is awesome (tbi)

[@baldurivar]

2 Stroke EFI is not a new thing, it been for years in small aeroplanes, outboard motors and snowmobiles , even with Direct Injection in some applications.

[@aksuahkera4052]

Aprilia ditech and Piaggio purejet early 2000s

[@mclarenlewis7845]

Its kind of silly to think how hard they over engineered it initially.

[@gilgarza2903]

It's well known that "UNIFLOW" allowed KTM to copy his ideal. Where KTM failed BIG TIME was that KTM used a completely different ECU system which we all know sucked. BTW, TM introduced TBI first. No wait, it was Ford in 1986. 😂

[@guidohl9444]

Allowed? They claimed they "found" it and yes, it was there to be found but they never acknowledged it's origins but let the motorcycle world think they developed it. If they had done so they might have benefited from further developments Neil had underway. To busy chasing the $.

[@gilgarza2903]

@@guidohl9444 That's probably why KTM couldn't patent it because it was already out in the ethos of shareware. And yes, KTM are greedy bastards.

[@deepbludude4697]

I like it thanks!

[@bilboswaggens2975]

Snowmobiles have been fuel injected and also have had oil injection for literal decades. My 70s sled has oil injection for Peet’s sake

[@kingkong81icloud]

I would rather have a carb , I had dirt bikes with 2 stroke feeds ,I would not use them it’s better to just mix it your self

[@ogasi1798]

say what you like people: race history is race history - who owns it? KTM - wonderful video as usual

[@NSUGS]

Of course it's a wrench What sort of monster mixes coffee with a spoon I appreciate that! Cheers from Canaderp.

[@KRANKiT]

I will tell you that this monster is a high class monster. Also, that was not a spoon, it was a 21mm spanner :)

[@hightorrexplore4370]

HERE WE GO AGAIN ‘’CUT THE EMISSIONS’’ CUT THE POWER ..

[@longzee7259]

KTMs should be a lot better for the money.

[@thedailyruns6046]

#Justice4Uniflow

[@markilleen4027]

sports vehicles should be exempt from the emissions

[@rhyswilson123]

Had a 250 exc tpi 2020 dropped the bike started bogging. To many sensors on these bikes useless. ,carberreta ones are much more reliable.

[@manoliswec5674]

bimota v due?

[@26dato]

athena group did it years ago. plus dont confuse people on how it works good vid but.

[@dauriaroberto]

Carbu4ever

[@Lezsi2]

6:50 Which software?

[@neilhintz8785]

😁👍

[@matthewfleming4291]

The legend himself speaks

[@MagnumMuscle1000]

The more I learn about KTM the more it's obvious they are a pack of predatory unethical a holes, in my opinion

[@johnbecker5213]

all stolen from johnson/evinrude

[@johnmiril1818]

I

[@garytauber430]

I will never buy a KTM bike again

[@Najsnwjsbdn]

It’s crazy how ignorant people are. Making a KZbin video about something you have zero fucking knowledge of is absolutely insane

[@johnhouston3681]

Ktm owners are a glutton for punnishment. The more problem, the more they like them. they hate the bike but buy another pos because yamaha wont e-start their awesome bike. FI dont belong on a 2 stroke.