The Unnatural Vegan Doesn't Like Intuitive Eating- AND NEITHER DO I

The Unnatural Vegan Doesn't Like Intuitive Eating- AND NEITHER DO I.
In this video I review a video by the Unnatural Vegan on why she doesn't follow intuitive eating. I also talk about the reasons why I don't like intuitive eating either, and how it might not help you during binge eating recovery or eating disorder recovery.
Is intuitive eating for you? Maybe, maybe not.
Are cravings the answer to your eating problems?
Kevin
Original video by the Unnatural Vegan: Why I Don't Follow Intuitive Eating: • Why I Don’t Follow Int...
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[@ec3529]

I absolutely HATE the language used in the intuitive eating movement. Things like "if you don't eat what you're craving then you will binge later on". It is so defeatist. And I believed that bulls%&t which meant that I justified my binges post-anorexia and ended up further damaging myself and my relationship with food. It's pretty irresponsible, especially for people trying to recover 💔😞

[@KevinBurciaga]

I have less problems with IE than the language its proponents use. It's not just defeatist, but it's not true. I've gone months without former binge foods like donuts but that doesn't mean I will binge on them the next time I have them. Sorry IE made things worse for you. Check out my other videos. I offer another way.

[@TheDailyPin]

I too love the alcoholic comparison she makes! I forgot how much I enjoyed watching her. Thank you for sharing!

[@californianranger4163]

Dieting isn't evil like sometimes people need to lose weight or control their food intake if you're A binge eater or bulimic it's better you don't eat them atleast a ceasefire. There is normal food control we've had food restrictions forever.

[@KevinBurciaga]

Exactly. A ceasefire. Temporary abstinence until you get control of the situation. High-calorie foods only make recovery more difficult.

[@kidthateveryonethinkshasso1872]

“You can’t ignore science.” YES!!! I’m in 8th grade, but I do 11-12th grade science, and I love studying the human body! And I feel like the body positive/intuitive eating industries both ignore science.

[@KevinBurciaga]

Yes it does, especially food reward and the fact that some foods are better when they're not eaten, like trans fats and most processed foods.

[@amysho2192]

I am in the intuitive eating camp. I think if you have dieted all your life and your weight goes up and down, then you might see the benefits of intuitive eating. Also, for people that can over think and obsess over food and eating and weight loss, intuitive eating is VERY freeing. I can't explain it, but it's extremely simple. Feels so natural. One thing I really like about it is that your body is smarter then your brain--and knows what you need. If you are someone who can diet and feel good and keep it off, then I don't see a problem. But I do see many people who, like me, was kinda enslaved with the diet culture. I guess people just have to do what works for them! I feel people need to eat very nutritious foods, and I think maybe that's the only part of intuitive eating I could disagree with. At the same time, if I tell myself absolutely no junk food--that's when I want it! So...I'm happy with the intuitive dieting way...me personally.

[@KevinBurciaga]

It works best for people who just don't want to deal with rules, weight, calories, diets, and don't have any specific weight or fitness targets. It's a nice reset button.

[@cwb1400]

It worked for my until I reached my 40's. Sadly, it absolutely doesn't work anymore unless I'd be ok with gaining a few pounds a year for the rest of my life. I'm not. lol

[@teena4rl211]

Love your honesty Kevin.

[@ram-us7ri]

I've had my problems with alchohol and binge eating and bulimic behaviors and anarexia It's all the same to me Too much fun and comfort, too little consequence ( in my disordered mind) It's hard to really want to live a real life!

[@cwb1400]

Intuitive eating worked for me until I got into my 40s and then game-over! My hormones, metabolism and everything else no longer worked the same. I had to do a compete overhaul on how I eat. I absolutely had to cut back on portions and eat more of certain kinds of foods such as protein and fiber. "intuitive eating" has become a term for the fat acceptance crowd. You have to have a calorie deficient to lose weight and most people don't have the ability to eat intuitively. Many over weight people don't even know what real hunger feels like anymore. It's not realistic for most people.

[@cw9452]

Sometimes BMI is useful and does change the plan of care. I had hip surgery recently and have a bmi of 17, they had to do things a bit differently to ensure it was safe to operate.

[@amysho2192]

Have to add another comment--so with intuitive eating, I'd THINK that I'd want to eat chocolates and French fries every day. But an important part of the intuitive eating that people shouldn't forget is that you really have to see how the food makes you FEEL. I feel my best when I eat mainly healthy, whole foods. I can't JUST go with cravings. I have to also think about how I felt the last time I ate that food. Or, maybe just take a few bites and then I am satisfied. It's working for me and the most important part is that I am just FREE. Mentally free. No rules. And I don't want to eat past fullness or eat when I'm not hungry. This is what makes intuitive eating different to me and in my opinion, my best option.

[@KevinBurciaga]

Don't eat past fullness. Don't eat when you're not hungry. Eat foods that make you feel better (usually whole foods). Sounds like my philosophy!

[@LumikkiJa7rutlessia]

Does intuitive eating mean you also eat everytime you get a craving for something? If so, seems kind of dumb.

[@KevinBurciaga]

That's my understanding of it.

[@kidthateveryonethinkshasso1872]

Yeah, dieting is not bad. I mean, like, I haven’t had any junk food at all since, like, last August. I’m in recovery from Anorexia, and I did originally cut out junk food because I liked controlling my intake, but I just don’t crave junk food anymore. I never think about it.

[@KevinBurciaga]

Good. That's one reason I advocate a boring diet. The longer you go without it, the less you care about it.

[@Tontoquienloleation]

Maybe intuitive eating works for some people, but they shouldn't say it's the best diet in the world. Specially if you're obese.

[@KevinBurciaga]

Exactly. It's almost a cult for some people.

[@amysho2192]

Sorry, this is my 3rd comment. 😂 The alcohol--I feel it's both a mental way to cope but also their body is addicted to it. I will say that if I have been eating sugar nonstop, my body will ask for that. So...hmmm. You guys do have a point here. I think back when I was overeating and my blood sugar was crazy, I had to put rules on myself for about 3 or 4 days to level out my blood sugar. But once I get to this point, THEN the intuitive eating works best. Kinda takes me back to the point before I ever went on my first diet.

[@KevinBurciaga]

Exactly. You need to have rules first and then you can go intuitive.

[@Captainpast6]

It's the thinking in extremes that pisses me off. Intuitive eating again promotes the extreme behavior. Craving a goopy greasy Samosa? Great, stuff your face with it. It doesn't take into consideration various health concerns that pushed people into dieting the first place. It just calls "diet-culture" marketing. What if my physician asked me not to consume high carb foods or avoid sugary drinks? It's invalidating yourself call it marketing when the intentions behind that particular behavior was to reach a healthy weight. It's no different than the other extreme, not eating anything at all to lose weight. It's foolish. I so get the boring diet thing. Had honestly followed it, lowered my weight to the healthiest point. I only ate whole foods, unprocessed and home cooked simple meals and I loved them, I'd have laughed at what intuitive eating was promoting back then. Because I swear I hated cookies and cakes as I couldn't tolerate them physically. I just liked to eat simple food = Chapati + Lentils and maybe cooked some vegetables and that was it. Intuitive eating boasts of being a part of mindfulness related exercises yet it's completely against the basic principles followed by the actual mindfulness meditation practioners. The Buddhist philosophy always talks about letting go of the cravings, the impermanence of joy, letting go of sensual pleasure etc. The Buddhists avoid meat and they have a valid reason for it, climate change. If that's restriction, why they don't go on binging?

[@502gurl]

Omg i followed this non sense for 6 weeks and thought it was going great..i was actually making really healthy choices too and wasnt restricting sweets and allowing myself the "occasional" craving but they keep saying allow all foods and the more i ate sweets the more i wanted them and was not eating emotionally but could not stop because it tasted so good. And as they recommend... telling myself i can have it later didnt help 🤡 lol I like a lot of the principles individually but i have to reject the concept as a whole bc for me allowing all foods does not make sense..

[@ffiontill5924]

Can you share your thoughts on Trisha paytas’ video?

[@KevinBurciaga]

At some point! Coming soon.