The Unsettling History of the DC-10 (National Airlines Flight 27) - DISASTER BREAKDOWN

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[@catthewondahokulea6515]

Happy with the engine break down and relating it to the world, Thank you for the hard work.

[@sebastianaragon4574]

Can you make a video about United flight 232?

[@Eternal_Demise]

Truly thankful for your work, I love your content mate, havent missed a SINGLE video from you.

[@grzegoszszwajn8744]

plz do "pll lot 007" episode

[@paulkurilecz4209]

The United 232 crash is a fascinating story in consequential failures. The key thing that came out of it was the method for melting and casting the alloy for the fan hubs. As someone that I knew said, you will not find the cause for the accident at the airfield. It is some 20 miles away in a cornfield. That fall, after the crash, a farmer found a major piece of the fan hub as he was harvesting his corn.

[@lowellcrabb151]

I am a farmer who watched United 232 fly overhead shortly before it's crash in Sioux City Iowa. I remember telling my wife there must be something wrong because it was flying much to low. We later received a letter asking us to look for possible engine parts because we were in it's flight path.

[@marcleslac2413]

And did you find some?

[@lowellcrabb151]

I did not find the missing part. It was found about 40 miles away.@@marcleslac2413

[@stacked7476]

Yeah whatever. Don’t believe you. You’ve simply watched Air Crash Investigation and come on here with this story. What’s your name? I’ll fact check it.

[@RupertMumphrey]

@@stacked7476Yapper

[@joonoval]

@@stacked7476tough guy over here

[@President_Mario]

This accident reminds me of Southwest Airlines Flight 1380 that also killed one passenger in a very similar way to this one. The poor lady was also partially ejected but passengers were able to pull her back in. Unfortunately she still died from the trauma.

[@vixen4327]

I thought of her also...rip to both passengers

[@timmach05]

The victim on the Southwest 1380 flight was from Albuquerque, where National landed, both victims with similar fates.

[@joelsterling1445]

Same here

[@rottenhead8385]

I hate that incident so much!

[@RunawayTrain2502]

Aloha 143, BA 5390 & Sichuan 8633 are also quite similar.

[@vaclavholek4497]

I'm sitting in a KLM Crown Lounge in Schiphol right now watching this. Some might say I was sick or crazy to watch disaster videos whilst traveling. No, I'm not crazy, I'm an engineer who appreciates just how amazing aviation mechanics are.

[@jess500texas]

Same here. I was watching an air crash Mayday video while waiting for my flight to Vegas

[@KayleeCee]

These videos actually make me feel better about flying. The unfortunate accidents highlighted in videos like these are the reason that aviation is so safe today. The industry has taken its lessons from each one and has improved aircrafts, pilot training, atc, ground equipment, and so on.

[@panman2568]

Same

[@braddavis4276]

I WORKED FOR DELTA AIRLINES ✈️✈️ AND ALWAYS WANTED TO KNOW WHAT WOULD BRING THESE JET'S DOWN 👇!!

[@APR1037]

I thought I was the only one who was crazy enough to watch disaster videos while traveling. I find them interesting (with full recognition of the tragic aspect, of course). I would download seasons of Air Disasters to watch during my flights. I would just do my best to sit sort of sideways to the aisle so as not to scare any nervous flyers on board. 😂😂😂

[@samiyarossini]

Love the WTYP shoutout. And for fun: the DC-10 involved in the attempted hijacking of FedEx 705 (N306FE) was FedEx's final MD-10 to retire. That is probably my child's favorite airplane, a she asks to re-watch that episode of Mayday over and over again... lol

[@BobbyGeneric145]

Fedex retired its final md10? Those were my favorite planes to jumpseat on... The extent of the modification to take it from a dc10 to an md10 was astounding.

[@jacobdrummond3013]

I do hope she's of a reasonable age, as both pilots and the engineer getting brained with a hammer isn't exactly the Aristocats 😄

[@m1rrorshades]

yay Liam.

[@bearstarpresents2264]

Oh. Fight for your Life? Yeah. Great fight scenes.

[@StellaMurano]

I love how deeper and deeper you can go each time to explain the causes of the accidents including even constructional details! True profesionalism! Congratulations and chapeau bas 🌟

[@phantomf4747]

His attention to detail is on his video's is one of the best traits.

[@patientallison]

@@phantomf4747 *Her. Chloe is a trans woman (hence the voice)

[@phantomf4747]

@@patientallison him, her matters not. I’m impressed by her work and am a big fan. I see as people. I apologize for the assumption. Regardless, the content is amazing.

[@andrewdillon7837]

@@patientallison Thanks for that , i wondered ,,

[@sunnyfon9065]

How unfortunate it was of that passenger. May he rest in peace.

[@joelsterling1445]

Not on a dc-10 but the something similar happened on a Southwest 737 when a lady was partly ejected out of the plane (the other passengers and crew were able to pull her back in but were unable to save her) when the engine blew up

[@sunnyfon9065]

@@joelsterling1445 I knew that accident since one or few days after it occurred.

[@Powerranger-le4up]

George Gardner was the person sucked completely out of the plane.

[@marioxerxescastelancastro8019]

He is resting in the ground.

[@iwaswrongabouteveryhthing]

a captain half left a window cos the window screws were incorrect

[@ual737ret]

At the airline I flew for, there was a three strikes and you are out maintenance policy. If pilots had a squawk about a particular component on the airplane, if the repair failed for a third time the airplane was grounded until it was fixed permanently. I wonder if this policy might have prevented this accident. I guess we will never know.

[@beenaplumber8379]

Gawd, at the regional I worked for in the early 90s, we were one of the first and largest Embraer Brasilia customers, and if we had that 3 strikes rule, the fleet would have been grounded. They always had the same nitpicky problems, most of which could be deferred (some instruments, biffy dump system - redundant items and conveniences mostly), but they kept coming back again and again, rarely anything serious unless you're the poor ramp guy who gets a face full of used blue juice. We had a few ramp fires from fuel leaks on engine shutdowns - that was fun. Our maintenance crew was top notch. It's just that getting a new type up and running means going through a lot of those nasty little problems. I think the Brasilia turned out to be a fantastic aircraft, and so are its jet descendants. The pilots loved it, but they got to know our maintenance staff pretty well.

[@ual737ret]

@@beenaplumber8379 I flew the Brasilia during my time at a commuter airline. It was a good airplane but you had to fly it by the book and be careful with the props.

[@user-yt198]

2:44 I flew with this particular TK DC-10 a few months before its crash. As a young kid who had only been on Fokker F27, F28 and McDonnell Douglas DC-9 before, the DC-10 was so huge in my eyes. After the crash, I still remember shredded stuff of the passengers split all over the place being shown in the news. Most passengers were on board by bad luck (or by fate?). Due to some strike, their scheduled flights were cancelled and they boarded the first available flight from Paris to London, which turned out to be this accident aircraft.

[@joelsterling1445]

I think the incident you mentioned was Turkish 981 which crashed with all of them dead (346 passengers/crew) in 1974 because of a door which was loose and which blew off as the DC 10 was climbing

[@anacampanita21]

16:35 When I was in flight attendant training for the airline I was hired with, our instructors, during emergency training, split us into 3 groups and gave each group a scenario and had us prepare the cabin for the emergency landing. They gave us as much details as the flight attendants knew at the time of the incident, which isn’t much, and an EST of when we’d attempt the landing. I remember the instructors giving us vague details about our group’s scenario and I instantly knew it was UA232. I’ve seen pretty much every video that goes over the incident and read the incident reports on it. I’m always (for lack of better words) excited to see more videos on it. There’s something about that crash that really got to me out of any other accident. I don’t know if it was the pure dedication of the pilots to fight until the end or the fact there were so many children on that flight. Either way, I’m excited to see that video.

[@beenaplumber8379]

It'll probably never happen, but in case it does, thanks in advance for saving my life. As a dispatcher in the 1990s, I saw the kind of training FA's went through, and I was blown away by the standards they had to satisfy. You are the rescue crew, the firefighters, the first responders, and you and/or your fellow FA's deserve a lot more credit than you get for being the highly trained safety professionals that you are. And I know you'll fight as hard to save that obnoxious lush in 16C as you would anyone else. Hats off! ♥

[@senabecool7232]

Man, Douglas really released the DC-10 early just to compete with Lockheed's L1011

[@YDKJ07]

Reminds me of Boeing rushing to release the Max and Max 8 to compete with the Airbus A220 and A21.

[@AndreySloan_is_a_cnut]

@@YDKJ07 - The Max 8 does not compete with the A-220, that is a much smaller aircraft. It competes with the A-320 NEO.

[@TenorCantusFirmus]

And the L-1011 itself is an unlucky history of a product reaping much less than it deserved...

[@AndreySloan_is_a_cnut]

@@TenorCantusFirmus - Very correct, I’ve flown both and the L-1011 was by far the superior aircraft (though I’ll grant the DC-10 did fly nicely). Douglas engineering was inferior, one needed to look no further than the design of the entry doors - The L-1011’s was elegant simplicity, the DC-10 a Rube Goldberg nightmare.

[@Cynsham]

@@YDKJ07 the 737 does not directly compete with the A220. the A320 was created to directly compete with the 737.

[@darkfox2076]

Great video Chloe. Always super interesting and well presented and produced. Thanks for all your efforts to keep us entertained.

[@alexander7032]

I’ve been watching your channel for a long while and love the work you always do. One highlight of this for me was it wasn’t a full, everyone dies situation. I was under the impression that was the result all the way through and loved the suspense and fulfillment when it ended about as well as it could have.

[@richarderickson8840]

You should have told about the many survivors of United, and how the piolet's did a fantastic job of flying with just throttles to get to that airport. Yes the plane did crash, but many lived. Also the General Electric CF-6 family of engines is a work horse of aviation.

[@ki5aok]

Exactly. The deaths from Flight 232 were attributed to a policy with the airlines that children under 2 or 4 were not granted their own seat and, instead, sat on the floor in the row with their parents. It was also United Family Day, which was an event that allowed families to get discounted or incentive tickets for flights the day the incident happened, so there were a lot of families onboard. Had each child was restrained like they do today, the death toll may have been lower (there still would be people dying due to the nature of the crash and the plane splitting apart upon landing). People called it a miracle anyone actually survived it, as the pilots lost all hydraulics, thus they can only steer and balance using engine thrust. Japan Airlines Flight 123 also suffered a catastrophic loss of hydraulics, although that instance it was an exploding bulkhead from an improper repair 17 years prior and the plane was a 747). That plane had four survivors (likely would've had more, but politics between Japan and the United States, Japanese pride, or both got in the way). This flight was also cited as an example of how you properly do crew resource management, as there was no procedure available to guide the pilots on how to land a plane that has no functioning surfaces due to hydraulic leak in all lines.

[@jamesstreet228]

He's going to make the vid of that one in the future. But, yes Denny Fitch, an off duty UA pilot was onboard and it just so happened that he had practiced in the simulator extensively for this very scenario. Without him and the flight crews amazing airmanship none would likely have survived.

[@donnafromnyc]

​@jamesstreet228 God bless you in heaven, Captain Fitch.

[@Boneworm852]

You do an amazing job breaking down the technical aspects and jargon of aviation! On a related note, "Uncontained Engine Failure" is a pretty sedate way to refer to such a terrifying event.

[@fluxthelycanroc9603]

It's how it's described in most reports other than contained engine failure. Sounds more eloquent than just the engine fucking exploded.

[@Boneworm852]

@@fluxthelycanroc9603 the engine walked into the room and said "i frew up :("

[@spacecat85]

@@Boneworm852 engine spits out fan blades: "I helped!" srsly tho, a lot of descriptions of pretty nasty events get some very cool, calm and collected descriptors. kinda makes sense tho, if you gotta investigate horrifying stuff on-site, you prob wanna get some mental distance when writing the report

[@RatPfink66]

makes it sound like the engine let its hair down and threw a hissy. much much worse comparatively speaking.

[@gnarthdarkanen7464]

@@spacecat85 Still waiting for a preliminary assessment to read "... resulting in an unscheduled landing and disassembly." ;o)

[@auntbarbara5576]

Your videos delve into incidents that no one else seems to. Just when I think Ive heard all there is to know, this channel comes through with much more facts.

[@Graham-ce2yk]

I'd read about this accident in a series on aviation disasters published in Australia, the quote used to head the chapter was "If you pull that N1 tach will the autothrottle respond..." one of the most terrifying things in the book since it indicated that the crew were experimenting with the fuses, never a good thing.

[@bodkillinator]

Your videos are getting longer, deeper and more technical and it's fantastic. Keep up the good work 👍

[@scdawn8658]

Thank You very much for the extra care and time you put into this clip. Another excellent presentation. ♥

[@robertmcghintheorca49]

Incidentally, the accident DC-10, registered as N60NA at the time was nicknamed "Barbara". Not only that, but the plane's nickname would frequently be painted onto the fuselage, next to the National Airlines titles. While it's easy to think that they were just naming the aircraft after somebody like the American Hollywood actress Barbara Eden, National Airlines had a practice of randomly picking the names of flight attendants, and naming the plane after said person.

[@DisasterBreakdown]

I believe they changed the name to something else, sometime after this. This plane wasn't always called Barbara, I saw some pictures of it but I couldn't make out the text.

[@MrBsbotto]

Wow, great trivia, Robert! Thanks very much.

[@Nafeels]

I do appreciate the technical tangents about the turbojet basics, though, and wouldn’t mind more of them appearing in future videos. Can’t wait for the UA232 breakdown, which was just as tragic as it was heroic.

[@nyxqueenofshadows]

the details in this were really appreciated! and the editing too! great video, as always :)

[@PauperJ]

Thanks for the thorough and easy to understand explanation. How you narrate and explain each step is amazing. Disaster Breakdown and Green Dot Aviation are by far the best aviation accident channels. Thank you for your dedication.

[@panman2568]

God I love this channel. Dc 10 def had a polarizing history but my god was it a beautiful beast for the sky.

[@12time12]

You should make a video about the Focke Wulf aircraft that has a questionable history. It was mentioned in one video, iirc Mexico City. Could be good.

[@DisasterBreakdown]

Wow thank you so much for the Super Thanks! You're too kind! I'll look into it for you, that's not really anything I know much about but if I can learn something new about airplanes and plane history, I'll certainly have a look

[@H-cranky]

woah a $50 donation?

[@12time12]

@@DisasterBreakdown appreciate that. I found out got the name wrong, it’s actually Fokker 100 aircraft. The crash I was thinking of was when the reversers deployed mid-air in São Paulo, Brazil, shortly after takeoff. Can’t remember if it was your channel or mini-crash, but mentioned that the Fokker 100 series had a ton of accidents and that there was more to the story. Thanks again, keep up the good work. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TAM_Transportes_Aéreos_Regionais_Flight_402

[@DisasterBreakdown]

@@12time12 I got you with the TAM airlines incident, already covered it :) : kzbin.info/www/bejne/raqzhZmig7mEqsk&ab_channel=DisasterBreakdown A number of incidents with the Fokker 100 stemmed from a previous problem with the Fokker 28. I had been planning a big video on this looking at all the incidents but I have kind of ran into a wall with it. I might re-work it because it will be a fascinating one.

[@12time12]

@@DisasterBreakdown ah yes that’s where I got it, been super interested in seeing the follow up. Sometimes you can’t make things work and that’s understandable. Keep up the great work!

[@mdsx01]

I see the fire tanker version, the Tanker 10, basing out of our local airport frequently. Lovely aircraft, once I get my multi-engine Im gonna try to get on one

[@andrewtaylor940]

Regarding United 232. You know something truly dramatic had to be going on there, when Charleton Heston plays the Captain in the movie.

[@chriscool5869]

When I was waiting for this video to come out, I decided to look at some lesser known accidents and found this one. I wanted to recommend this accident, but apparently, you were first. Great job with the video!

[@stevewhalen6973]

My Uncle , a former DC 10 crew captain for the now defunct Eastern airlines, flew a 10 for a dozen or so years prior to his retirement. Me being an interested plane buff, I asked him what he thought about piloting the DC10. He said it was a great machine , generally quite reliable and also dependable to land with its optional and then newly evolving autopilot technology.

[@dex1lsp]

Honestly, you have the best tangents on all of youtube! Always fascinating and always informative! 👍👍 I also love that extra bit at the very end. LOL

[@pooryorick831]

I flew on DC-10s a lot in the 80s and 90s. It was a fine aircraft to fly. Flew across the Atlantic a few times. Never a problem bigger that a seat that wouldn't go back in the upright position. But there always was a worry. A couple times on takeoff I was thinking about the engine coming apart. Lucky for me it never happened.

[@damienray2286]

The DC-10 is now being used mainly for fighting wildfires here in the US. You can find tons of amazing videos of DC-10's doing pass-overs as they dump water over forests and neighborhoods. They slow down to nearly stall speed to dump to make sure it ends up right on target (lead to by a guide plane) and the amount of noise that it makes spooling up to not stall is both awe inspiring and terrifying

[@bobgreene2892]

We applaud your thorough and complete analysis. We subscribed. McDonnell-Douglas has an excellent record with military and commercial aircraftv, and as you point out, many of the worst incidents involved improper maintence or factors not reated to the aircraft. There were design flaws in the cargo door latches, and after the Turkish crash, it was sent back to the drawing board. The GE high-bypass turbofans apparently had resonance issues which were not completely resoved when the DC10 was launched. Basically, the DC10 had high potential, but not realized fully because of factors in the supporting array of suppliers and maintainers. 19:32

[@mkjirak]

Great video! I hadn't heard much about this accident before, so this was a treat.

[@sebastiangeorger5791]

One of the first flights I've done out of IOE on the 777 was with a Captain that used to fly the DC-10. He absolutely loved it and said there's nothing quite like it. He also flew the 747 as my airline retired their DC-10s before the 747s. He barely talked about the 747 compared to it

[@richardlouisnewman1064]

Excellent video. Looking forward to the United video as well, which I am sure will include the incredible, heroic actions of a man by the name of Denny Fitch, who sadly passed in 2012 with brain cancer, but on the day of the accident, along with flight crew of the crippled plane, accomplished the impossible. Heroes, all of them.

[@sydyidanton5873]

Another excellent, brilliantly researched presentation Chloe! It is great the way you break down the technical aspects to give more context. Indulge in 'Disaster Breakdown Tangents' as often as you wish. They are excellent. I now they would help a lot for those with limited aviation knowledge, but even with my experience I thoroughly enjoy them. I have no doubt there would be many others how would agree.

[@whoever6458]

Well There's Your Problem is the best! I watched that episode here on KZbin. Your channel is also awesome of course!

[@timelwell7002]

Another well-researched and well-explained video - thanks.

[@pinksoup9985]

Thank you so much for all the research and hard work! Brilliantly done as always!!

[@roryfriththetraveller4982]

unexpected WTYP shout out! nice, its a small world! really love your narration style, relaxing voice !

[@danabergman4052]

I know it's been a year since this was posted but I am a new subscriber. My father flew the DC 10 for American Airlines. He retired in 1981 on the 747, sometime in the late 70s. He had an uncontained engine failure climbing out of San Francisco at night. And the general vicinity of Knott's Berry farm. I have never seen a report on this, but I did read his incidence report. He said that only the cowling was left

[@86_beans]

You are kind to recommend another channel. Though I’ll wait for your expert review. Both yourself and Green Dot are by far the best channels for aviation engineering content. Keep it up mate.

[@j81851]

Impressive. I have flown a lot in the last 10 years being Platinum (100 hops per year) for 4 years and Diamond (140 hops) for an additional 4 years with Delta. I follow all the good YT channels and I must say yours is excellent! The level of detail, who dun it, how it happened and digging deeper down is very exciting and tremendously informative. Your assessment causes me to speculate the dirty mark on the DC10 was actually an engine and related manufacturer issue. Also engine containment, now a major deal must have just been a negligible thought back then. Jets fail, engines blow should they have just hoped for the best and not designed nacelles that would largely contain the failure? There is a video of the massive engine used in the largest airbus model that shows a purposeful detachment of a front fan blade (the very largest ones) at full power. The engine bounces around and the cowl does similar but for the most part stays together and contains the explosion. Wonder why it took all those years to get to that point. Again EXCELLENT work thank you truly a joy to watch!

[@andrewince8824]

My mother fly on a DC-10. 2 weeks later that same aircraft fell out the sky. My grandfather was groundcrew at Stanstead and lost his favourite spanner due to a DC-10. he accidentally left if in the cockpit while fixing the engineers seat. 2 flights later the cargo door decided not to door and his spanner was eternally lost. It wasn't long after that loss that the ground crews were put on alert due to said dodgy door.

[@stuartlee6622]

I miss National Airlines. I always enjoyed flying with them.

[@douglasdixon524]

I miss National and what Miami was decades ago. My parents both worked for National from 1950 to 1978.

[@rilmar2137]

I loved the inclusion of technical details, keep up the good work!

[@mikeymikey4186]

I was surprised by the mention of Well There's Your Problem I would love a plane episode with you on it! Tho your videos and the podcast have quite a stark difference in tone

[@ExperimentIV]

i’ve definitely seen chloe in the comments on some episodes!

[@00muinamir]

"Stark difference in tone" is an understatement, LOL. WTYP is barely-contained chaos (and I mean that lovingly).

[@CoMorbiditty]

That sure looked like a 1970s map. l know them well lol. Did you go to the museum to film that engine?? Kudos if you did!! Some very good investigatory work there. One thing l have noticed in a few of these disasters, is the cockpit crew never confirm anything with the cabin crew about what is going on outside the cockpit. They only have their instruments to look at..... if they had confirmation of a big hole in the plane or an engine on fire, then they would make the correct decisions.

[@sharoncassell5273]

There is better CRM now communication between pilots and crew.

[@kdawson020279]

I see a lot of DC-10s, but my job is on the airport campus in the Air Capital of the World. Still used in cargo ops, and since the Air Capital is the opposite of a tourist destination, we have lots of cargo operators.

[@brandoncooper1691]

Before I was born, my mother worked at Marian Health Hospital when United Flight 232 crashed in Sioux City, IA in 1989. She told me she worked an entire day preparing sandwiches, drinks, and any kind of aid she could provide to the victims of the crash. It was a DC-10 and luckily many passengers survived, and it makes me happy that my mom provided some comfort to the survivors at the time. 9 months later I was born, and my father told me that was one of the worst days she ever experienced in her life. I have visited the memorial in Sioux City several times, and pay my respects to the many of the survivors, first responders, secondary responders, and the many victims of that tragedy. I'm proud to know my mother, regardless of her position at the hospital at the time, made some sort of difference in one of the most infamous airliner disasters in history, only a couple miles from where I grew up outside Sioux City, IA.

[@AzovAzza]

Another fantastic video. Love your content, every time!!

[@roadwarrior1459]

The DC10 was so dangerous it even killed Concorde.

[@aussierob7177]

When mum and i booked a 15 day holiday in 1975 to the west coast of the USA, there were no direct flights to America. We had to fly from Sydney to Tahiti in a French DC8. After a 3 hour wait at the airport The final leg of the journey was a UTA DC-10.30, from Pappete to Los Angeles. I new nothing about the safety of this aircraft until many years later.

[@jackiehoward7300]

Hello, if you had the chance to fly either a DC-10 or an L-1011, which would be your choice? I remember the Sioux City, Iowa crash in 1989. I believe that more people could have survived if the aircraft hadn’t cartwheeled on landing. Technically, no one should have survived that crash. The pilots were very good aviators.

[@teapotmclaren]

20:45 - "Why| Why| Why did I wave? Why did I wave there?" hehehe Great video as always.

[@mylife1221]

I want to say I'm surprised I've never heard of this, but at the same time I can't really be surprised when United 232 also happened. There's no doubt it was overshadowed by 232 as they were both uncontained engine failures, just that 232 was more... "remarkable". I miss the trijets.

[@johnstuartsmith]

The more engines on an airliner, the greater the chances of a catastrophic engine failure. Airliners with two engines on the wing that can fly on one engine are probably safer than trijets with engines next to the rear cabin or up in the tail next to the hydraulics. I was a fan of the Lockheed L-1011.

[@mylife1221]

@@johnstuartsmith Same here, the L-1011 is my favourite plane.

[@almightysamwhich4203]

Great video as always! I'd love to see a video about Malaysian airlines flight mh17 it is a really interesting story that ties into the Ukraine conflict going on right now and was one of a few Malaysian airline incidents in the early 2010s

[@moonprincess500]

There’s apparently a criminal trial that was done back in November. All involved were found guilty of murder in absentia.

[@MissHaneul]

Another wonderfully detailed video, great job on this one Chloe! I admit, I hear DC-10 and my brain goes: "Oh no, which accident this time?" I will also check out that podcast after and see if I enjoy it. P.S. If it helps, I waved back. 😉

[@YDKJ07]

Great content as always. Pretty devastating damage to this aircraft. It's by the grace of God. That in all DC-10 that in which pilots were able to safely land their planes. Though some with unfortunately having a loss of life on aboard in the case of United 232 and national air 27. As I said previously that I use to have a die cast model of a revell American Airlines DC-10 when I was a kid. I probably also flew on one in my childhood years, though I can't say that definitively.

[@sharoncassell9358]

On another channel Air clips someone wrote a comment that their child did just that. The model and all. Dc10.

[@rudedog302]

The piece of the "Engine" that came off of the Continental DC-10, Concorde crash, was not part of the engine, but a piece of the engine cowling, the engine had nothing to do with that. I overhauled CF-6-6, and CF-6-50 engines, and over the years was present for some of the modifications to those engines, none of which were of a major type. Very good engine. I would be interested to know if the other instances that the engine had been removed for performance issues, if there were excessive vibrations associated with that engine.

[@birdbrain4445]

Love a good Disbreak tangent

[@BlairAir]

Outstanding production. Getting better all the time!

[@JasonReilich]

I flew on that plane for years back-and-forth from California to New York from ages 4 to 15 I loved that plane.

[@MILD-BILL]

THIS WAS INTERESTING.... I ENJOYED WATCHING !

[@stephanieparker1250]

I’m impressed with your pronunciation of American places, such as New Orleans! ❤

[@mirrorblue100]

Another fascinating and well told - albeit tragic - story. Thanks.

[@GERHARDUSLZAAL-cp7pc]

YOU are GREAT indeed.I am a university tutor but you ....just the way you present it....brings it to the

[@akwsterling]

I lived in Albuquerque when this accident happened. I remember seeing this plane coming in for a landing and I remember thinking why is this plane here. National did not serve Albuquerque so I had never seen them land in NM. I remember thinking something bad must have happened. How right I was.

[@kirilmihaylov1934]

Where is that Albuquerque

[@DisasterBreakdown]

Always interesting to hear from those who were there. Thanks for your comment!

[@Harald-MacGerhard]

My late uncle vere flying DC-10 as a captain for Scandinavian Airlines for more than a decade….. he loved, loved, loved the airplane ❤

[@uncaringbear]

I always dread watching new videos about the DC-10. It's always been one of my favourite planes but content creators go out of their way to put a spin on the plane's history that is less than objective. So I appreciate this video for not resorting to hyperbole and casting the plane in an unfair light.

[@Rupertbear27]

In November 1973, I flew on National Airlines Sun King Flight 001, LHR--MIA on my way to Freeport G.B.I. to join the cement carrier Coral Venture. The aeroplane was a DC10 Tail number N81NA "Renee"

[@ky7299]

I think that the part the Concorde run over was not an engine part but a part of the engine pod, a metal strip off the aft part of the pod. The DC-10 completed its journey uneventfully and the missing strip was noticed only after it had landed.

[@fauxpinkytoo]

Chloe, these are amazing videos! New subscriber.

[@helryon]

stunning video as always, chloe!

[@DisasterBreakdown]

Thank you so much!!

[@zacktong8105]

I had not been aware of this incident, but indeed it was disturbing in light of 232 later on. I never flew on any but can appreciate how badly their reputation was degraded.

[@bwc1976]

Holy crap, I didn't know the fragment that killed the Concorde was from a DC10!

[@andrewnajarian5994]

You really can’t blame it on the DC-10 though, I’m all reality, it was the Concorde that killed itself. It could have been anything that caused the tire to blow, including the fact that the Concorde was incredibly hard on tires on its own. The fact that a piece of its own tire damaged one of its fuel tanks and caused it to catch on fire is pretty inexcusable really.

[@glenrosarian2352]

Sounds like they should have scrapped that problematic engine and replaced it. It's great to see pics of those American Airlines DC-10'S again! The DC-10 did have some early cargo-door and redundancy issues but it was really a great plane.

[@kamakaziozzie3038]

Loved flying on the DC-10. In the 1980s and 90s I probably flew on it more often than any other aircraft during that period.

[@marinhopaais426]

Unbelievable that there were so many problems with the DC-10.

[@siwright1517]

best channel, well presented, beautifully narrated. keep up the fantastic work

[@DisasterBreakdown]

Thank you for your kind words!

[@SteveSiegelin]

To clarify when he says fans and blades are in the compressor wheel he means that there are rotors and staters. The rotors spin and the staters redirect the flow of are back to more linear flow. Standard blades are stationary. They are to take the rotation out of the flow and compress the air in a linear fashion.

[@bluecoffee8414]

I'm no engineer. But that plane always gave me the creeps.

[@jocelynharris-fx8ho]

It looks evil and sinister.😡🥺

[@damienray2286]

I get that a little bit. It's one of my favorite styles, but there are some videos of DC-10's that are now firefighting planes and the noise they make while spooling up from near stall speed after dumping at low altitudes is a bit terrifying

[@Springbok295]

An airline I, fortunately, had the opportunity to fly on from Miami to London a few times back in the 70s.

[@douglasdixon524]

My father was a pilot with National from 1950 - 1978, my mom a flight attendant. I miss National Airlines even now in 2023, 43 years after Pan Am bought them.

[@Dash8Q400Channel]

The DC-10 also played a major role in the crash of the Air France Concorde

[@yuii2493]

Which ended the Concorde era sadly :(

[@marhawkman303]

@@yuii2493 realistically... Concorde was.... in some ways genuinely innovative in terms of progressing aviation, and the world is a less interesting place without it, but... in some ways... It was a flawed design that was dangerous to operate. Which makes it even sadder, they hadn't managed to fix the known flaw before disaster struck. They knew what it was though.

[@maciekkra539]

Actually the official story is flawed. Concorde started veering off the runway before it ran over the supposed piece of metal. British pilot who flew Concordes elaborates on that accident more precisely.

[@Dash8Q400Channel]

@@maciekkra539 Whether it drifted or not I certainly wouldn't want to be taking off on a contaminated runway.

[@maciekkra539]

@@Dash8Q400Channel I agree, the French did a shoddy work either way. FOD on the runway and poor maintenance on one of the most beautifull birds ever taking to the sky.

[@isobot9376]

The dc 10 is a great airplane that is still flying with the military as the KC 10 or “the big sexy” Several have been retired recently as newer tankers are delivered but no one wants to see them go, they do there job extremely well and are overbuilt. Their aircrews love them, my niece flew them for years before switching to the C 17 There are also several converted to air tankers to fight forest fires, I was lucky to see one in action and it was unbelievable to see something so big fly so low and slow while dropping retardant. In high school My dad worked for National and I was able to fly all over the world on DC 10’s. Something not mentioned in the video but shown in a few of the pictures was the 30’s and 40’s series which were made to fly intercontinental, with more fuel tanks and to handle the additional weight a third landing gear was added right in the middle between the main gear. I got to fly every couple of months, anytime I had off from school I begged to go somewhere. This was after the cargo door/maintenance issues were worked out ( the doors were forced closed which damaged the locking mechanism if I remember correctly) so I felt safe even after one trip out of SFO which lost an engine with a pretty loud bang on the climb out and with the whole plane shaking, circled out over the ocean to dump fuel and made back to SFO :) the engine was completely shredded and they had to ferry it back to Miami with a skeleton crew as it was unrepairable. So great airplane, not so great engines…

[@frothe42]

The Lockheed L1011 was a more advanced airplane and those who flew them like them much more than the McDonnell Douglas.

[@R0Tl]

"Why did I wave there?" I'm sorry, that just had me rolling 😂

[@BlindBlue196]

Awesome video as always thankyou 😃

[@harvinscreates5973]

This video was amazing. Thank you.

[@Clementinewoofwoof]

The moment he said that the Concord ran over the DC 10 engine part, it was like having the realization of the killer was in the house the whole time

[@jeffreydeeds9225]

The DC-10 definitely had flaws, as all airliners seem to. I've flown well over 100,000 miles on DC-10s and never encountered any problems. I like the jet a lot, and it was especially comfortable in 1st class compared to other airliners of its time. As a passenger, my favorites all time are the A380 and 747.

[@sharoncassell9358]

There is a video about DC10 flight. No accident. It brings tears.

[@blerst7066]

One thing I don't understand is, if most accidents involving the DC-10 were unrelated to the plane's design, then what about its unusually high accident rates compared to its competitors? It's hard to believe that only the DC-10 got poor maintenance and incompetent crew.

[@Vincent_Sullivan]

Blerst; That is a very good question! I don't think there is a single simple answer to the question but I can think of several examples that would be a partial answer to the question. United flight 232 (DC-10) suffered an un-contained failure of the number 2 engine that damaged all 3 of the hydraulic systems which rendered EVERYTHING hydraulically powered on the aircraft inoperable. The result was a crash landing in Sioux City. Pan Am flight 845 (747) departing San Francisco became airborne late and impacted the approach lighting system at the end of the runway sustaining severe damage including 3 hydraulic systems. The aircraft managed to return for an emergency landing because it has been designed with FOUR hydraulic systems and the one remaining system saved their bacon... Another case that comes to mind is Northwest Airlines flight 85 (747) which suffered a hydraulic malfunction in the rudder system over the Pacific ocean which caused the rudder to make an un-commanded hard-over. Normally this would result in an immediate death spiral (like United 585 and USAir 427) and we never would have found out what happened - but the 747 had a "split rudder" where the top and bottom sections of the rudder were independently hydraulically controlled. The pilots were able to deflect the still working half of the rudder in the opposite direction to balance the the rudder forces and that kept them flying long enough to land safely in Anchorage. The pretty much inescapable conclusion is that of the first generation wide body aircraft (747, DC10, L1011) the 747 and L1011 were very solidly designed aircraft. The DC10 was designed to be the less expensive and earlier to market alternative so some design corners had to be cut. This does NOT mean that it did not meet the basic regulatory requirements of the day but it didn't have much redundancy ABOVE the required minimum. Extra redundancy above the minimum is nice to have when you are having a bad day! Remember American flight 191 (DC10)? The NTSB report basically blamed defective maintenance and incorrect pilot training. The facts seem to be that the the aircraft was flyable but entered a left wing stall when the left wing slats retracted due to loss of hydraulic pressure. There were no mechanical slat locks (not mandated by the FAA until 1982 but installed as standard equipment on 747 and L1011) so the left wing slats retracted reducing the lift of the left wing causing the stall and resulting roll. The pilot flying (First Officer) might have avoided the stall or been able to fly the aircraft out of the stall if he had known they were stalling but he had no stall warning stick shaker. On the DC10 a stick shaker for the FO was an extra cost option that American Airlines didn't want to pay for. As for slat locks that would have prevented the stall, Mcdonnell Douglas deemed installing them "unjustified". See the August 4 / 1979 NY Times article written by Richard Within. Search for "DC-10 Manufacturer terms slat locks unjustified" It is interesting reading and clearly displays the mindset that the DC-10 was a "minimal" aircraft and that anything that could be left off would be left off to reduce the cost and speed up the development schedule. The bottom line is that while the initiation of many DC10 accidents was not the fault of the aircraft the lack of something "beyond the minimum" in its design made it more vulnerable when things went wrong. Think of it as removing a few slices from the Swiss cheese stack. Fewer things have to go wrong before the situation turns into disaster. These are my opinions... other people are sure to have other opinions so let the discussion begin...

[@joelsterling1445]

Not true about the poor maintenance or crew part. Alaska 261 (MD-83) and Japan 123 (747-100) were not maintained properly prior to those 2 planes crashing. There are others but those 2 came to mind for me as I watched the video

[@michaelosgood9876]

The DC10 was the scapegoat for that Air France disaster. That accident lay with Concorde & that maintenence team. DC10 was a terrific aircraft for the airlines it served. Lots of 100000+ hour airframes prove this

[@kingssuck06]

Of course it was, europeans are very prideful. Air france never installed the recommended kevlar tank linings, but nobody talks about that. Also, if a small piece of metal can bring your plane down, you got bigger problems than the DC10

[@SinaLaJuanaLewis]

I was a child when I first flew in a DC-10 and I hated it. It wasn't comfortable. Then in the 90s I flew it as a flight attendant. It's just a not pleasant. It's better for cargo. 😧

[@davidhynd4435]

A passenger was ejected through the window?! That's horrific. Even partial ejection would have proved fatal, I suspect, because an aeroplane window is not a very large hole. Hopefully, he was deceased even before being completely ejected. It must, however, have been extremely distressing for the other passengers.

[@joelsterling1445]

That is what happened on a Southwest plane when 1 of the 2 engines on the 737 blew up and killed a passenger (who the others successfully pulled back in but were unable to save her) who was partly thrown out

[@colincampbell7126]

What an awesome channel, this guy rocks

[@annehersey9895]

I absolutely loved flying on the DC10.

[@sarahmathias9463]

I live in New Mexico, so this was very interesting story to listen to!

[@Gus1966-c9o]

The DC 10 was also the cause of the Concorde disaster .

[@Kehk-in-a-MiG]

This is like the only video covering this incident; I myself had to write a brand-new Wiki article on it last year. Thanks, man!