The Unsolved Mystery of the Killhouse | Roblox: Entry Point

[@Unofficial_YT]

FAQ: What about the Nightmare assault on Elite? | Even if you start on Elite, the difficulty will be raised to Legend anyway once the assault starts. What if only the Killhouse is a loop and the Nightmare is a way to break out of it? | I was originally going to include this interpretation in the video, but I ultimately decided not to. That's because "au revoir" means "goodbye until we meet again" which shows that the FL will meet Rose again. I also saw the Deposit alternate soundtrack as more evidence of the alternate timeline. What if the FL repeats the entire storyline rather than just the Killhouse? | There is no evidence of them doing anything other than the Killhouse, and the dialogue in other missions does not indicate that they've done the mission before. It's only the Killhouse that has these characteristics. Also, we know that the Killhouse happens after Epilogue anyway, so it's unnecessary to assume we are repeating the whole thing.

[@agram4030]

Unofficial, what if Killhouse is actually the Freelancer on drugs before the Black Dusk.

[@koimeme]

Damn freelancer high af

[@agram4030]

lol this comment blew up so fast

[@Undercover3267]

Wait i want to ask "on drugs"?

[@agram4030]

@@ricecastle4691 thats....what i said

[@bengamerlsyolo6788]

Can you imagine him seeing Jackdaw one last time before the Black Dusk seeing him all high af LOL

[@MauricioJara]

Man, remember when the only missions were the Killhouse, the Deposit, the Freelancer, the Financier, and everyone played in PVP Elimination/Deathmatch. Man, I never thought Entry Point would end up the way it did, which is so crazy! It's been such an awesome ride to see how the game has grown storywise.

[@orestisgeorgatos6725]

Dude go wayyy back Remember when there were no loadouts? Every class got their class items automatically and we got guns through the kill house armory? Man those were the days

[@orestisgeorgatos6725]

@glitchypug and not even shadow war. Just a plain old testing arena with reused assets

[@jaywebster624]

am sure there was back then there was only the freelancer and shadow war but worst

[@schlorts]

/unlock Jailbreak god everyone used to say that

[@bengamerlsyolo6788]

Unofficial basically telling Cishshato: *This isn't even my final form*

[@thehawk6837]

Cishshato releasing ANOTHER unsolved secret in the killhouse afterwards. "Pathetic"

[@ambrozoblak7371]

Have you ever heard of the channel STblackST?

[@sparrowEP]

@@ambrozoblak7371 wtf is that

[@ambrozoblak7371]

@@sparrowEP @Bengamerls Yolo's profile pic

[@SalmanArain-l6u]

​@@ambrozoblak7371I watch him lololol

[@kaptal]

It's actually so creepy since the story starts with the freelancer and Rose's afterlife

[@trulers8713]

Rose is your mission op in killhouse, maybe her spirit comes back to haunt the millhouse? That's why nightmare assult happens? Lol

[@Kriegter]

no. It's all a live action roleplay

[@theepicshifter1251]

SWAT when nightmare assault: Not bringing flashlights on our guns may have been a big oversight

[@TheMastermind7259]

My theori is that they survived and been training few days to make sure they have fun, because they are hiding.

[@Merc69420]

@@TheMastermind7259 I’m sorry but rose is confirmed dead as jackdaw probably got her body, and built her a grave with her in the ground, and the freelancer died in the black dusk

[@Onion-Bat]

cish watching the entirety of the EP community exploding after just changing the date of one mission

[@sparrowEP]

Lol #ripentrypoint

[@MrRobloxIndonesia]

This is like Ultimate Custom Night that Scott C. made for FNAF Ending.

[@skell6134]

Huh... yeah,same concept,infinite gameplay without end . ,

[@Deaderthanadoorknob2]

That was my same thought after watching this

[@PoisonIvory088]

Exactly what I was thinking

[@bobuxcmdpt]

I was thinking the same gosh darn thing!

[@tempest8882]

Idk it can someone explain it

[@captainzachary2477]

I think the nightmare assault is the freelancer after his death, and rose asking them if their revenge was worth it and if they didn’t do it they could have lived on. And now their stuck in this after life thing regretting everything they did in halcyon/Phoenix and what they could have done instead

[@cactusthecactus]

That's basically the epilogue lol

[@trulers8713]

I think that its rose talking to jackdaw, we can tell rose was close to the freelancer, and jackdaw got the freelancer killed in HIS mission for revenge against halcyon. "Just has to have your revenge" "you knew it would end like this" freelancer says "we both knew this was a suicide mission" implying that jackdaw willingly let the freelancer die in a shadow war that diddnt involve him/her.

[@cactusthecactus]

@@trulers8713 Rose was dead. She had no way of talking to Jackdaw. Unless you mean she was talking about Jackdaw.

[@trulers8713]

Ye, that's what I meant

[@Kriegter]

no, it's a live action roleplay and freelancer is just playing dead, the "dead" roleplayers have fun in the killhouse to wait for everyone else

[@guestb8389]

Here's an idea: The Kill house is the Freelancer in Purgatory due to them doing stealth on most/the final missions. They did commit some pretty huge crimes, but they've done enough good to warrant Purgatory rather than Hell. The Nightmare is if the Freelancer decided to go for loud: He/she has killed many lives, both innocent and evil, therefore they're forced to eternally fight swat teams for the rest of their existence. Sentenced to an ironic punishment for all eternity while Rose scolds them for trying to take revenge for her by killing more people who are just unknowing slaves of Halcyon.

[@whitefri2z]

see, that would be a good theory, if in the end of black dusk everyone didn't die due to, y'know, the explosion bringing the base down on their heads.

[@TugiDeg]

That's what I thought as well, you get bonus xp for not killing anyone in missions, which is also the requirements for Legend. You are not meant to kill anyone else except Halcyon Operatives or Phoenix Operatives. Killing guards or civilians like on The Deposit are mostly innocent, and have nothing to do with the war between Halcyon and Phoenix. Guards who are just working there and are civilians for the rest of the day. Also Th eKillhouse has old dialogue/briefing text and it says "SWAT" instead of "Aegis". Probably unintentional because Killhouse was the first actual "heist" (after the Freelancer tutorial). But might be connected to lore.

[@WillysStuff]

Well now that Concept is a thing, I believe that to be purgatory

[@JA_-bc2ic]

You can also only access the nightmare in loud, not in stealth so that makes the theory valid

[@somenerd8139]

This would be a good theory, but Rose seems to love loud, with her very happy when you go Plan B on Deposit, and with her killing Steel Cove in the Blacksite. It just doesn't make sense for her to be so mad at you just because you went loud. Harvey dying/not dying seems like a more plausible theory.

[@luqmanhakim752]

I have an alternate theory. Like what if instead of the nightmare assault being an alternate loop, how about it was the key to breaking out of the loop? We weren't supposed to end the loop. Rose scolded us because she enjoyed our "training" together. So at some part of the loop, the freelancer realises that the wires were black. We dont tell Rose. We experiment with the wires, and after doing what we were supposed to do, the nightmare assault begins. Thats also probably why its so damn hard. After we complete it, Rose feels sad that they wont be able to "train" anymore, for unknown reasons. The freelancer breaks out of the loop and goes to his final afterlife.

[@octupleodyssey]

Interesting, but this would break the loop for rose as well, so there would be no reason to be sad. Perhaps she's upset because she is the freelancer's closest friend which would make her an excellent "warden" and she's mad because the "prisoner" escaped.

[@JohnnySins-bp5wh]

5:42

[@skell6134]

Maybe he just got another loop but this time its Shadow War ? XD

[@idkillcommitsuicide6536]

HELL,Or heave,Since we fight the evil ones

[@skell6134]

@@idkillcommitsuicide6536 We not perfectly good persons too,u know ?

[@old_alexandermoroz8054]

The killhouse nightmare rose dialogue says "You had to have your revenge, Couldnt just walk away You had to know this is where it would have take you" which is also a fact for a theory of afterlife

[@old_alexandermoroz8054]

Ah and also refferencing guys who have theorys to your discord server is bad idea. All they will see is uhm... not affiltrated with EP like at all

[@SadCivilian]

ur pfp is gonna be in my dreams %100

[@bruh5299]

@@SadCivilian Even Director is scared of clowns!

[@shndowalt]

I think when the main timeline separated into two was when the freelancer chose to join Halcyon. Maybe in the alternative one, Phoenix makes him an offer. I'm pretty sure that the April First event had something to do with it. When Sparrow says "Phoenix could make a better offer", maybe Cish is hinting something. But, that's Sparrow, so you probably won't know. Maybe the freelancer betrays Phoenix and joins Halcyon, they might've helped Halcyon destroy Phoenix, which (I guess) is a reason why there is the alternative song in the deposit, which means Halcyon has won in the alternative timeline. Maybe Rose was with Halcyon the whole time and she betrays Jackdaw.

[@blackice7050]

thats a story I wanna hear about

[@ChosenPlayer100]

Alt music is just alt Nothing special about it Its like choosing a random soundtrack for you The only alternate universe is The Concept cause it doesn't exist in the main EP universe The only timeline u can change in ep is harvey's fate Whether he dies or gets imprisonment for the rest of his life Cish confirmed that operators & entry point are in the same timeline so they might collide with each other Whether that makes us breakout harvey (meaning sparing him is canon), meeting rose (making the theory falcon : a case study true), freelancer in a coma (making someone's theory true too) or just meeting jackdaw or sparrow (which is very likely if operators takes place after the events)

[@h_moment.mp4966]

My Theory: Killhouse: Freelancer dies in dedication without taking revenge on Halcyon Nightmare: Freelancer dies in epilogue after taking revenge

[@Murat36766]

How tell me why

[@h_moment.mp4966]

@@Murat36766 i dont remember i said this like 3 years ago

[@Murat36766]

@@h_moment.mp4966 k mate

[@nothankyou2151]

My theory: You're actually playing as fresh new recruits, you and Rose are dead, how is Rose's voice playing when she's dead? Easy, her voice was recorded before she was assassinated and thus it's played every time recruits do the training

[@tappotz1747]

but wouldn't halcyon be gone?

[@theepicshifter1251]

HalcyGONE

[@neoncatua5819]

@@tappotz1747 maybe phoenix just became next halcyon

[@coolperson7486]

Why would halcyon have a traitor as their commentator + they're gone

[@coolperson7486]

@@neoncatua5819 Pheonix's one job was to destroy halcyon. now that halcyon is gone pheonix is also gone.

[@iamsam-cu9rz]

Freelancer’s opening dialogue in the Killhouse makes me feel as if they don’t know it’s a loop. However, Rose’s dialogue has this really eerie tone to it. “And… here we are again.” Is NOT a normal thing to say.

[@santiaguo21]

I mean, in the context of the killhouse, it may as well. Imagine training the same thing every single day, you ought to see it as more of a grind.

[@nithsk]

I think its just rose and freelancer's hell. The only exciting things are just the occasional nightmare assaults rather then normal ones.

[@thatmofuka556]

They missed the opportunity in the nightmare timeline to add Never gonna give you up when rose says "you had to get your revenge?"

[@sparrowEP]

rick astley is here **loads in gun**

[@interstellardragonet8705]

7:36, I suggest my theory is..In this alternative timeline, maybe you kill Falcon early? Or something? Something that would've made a difference. Maybe never joined Phoenix? Who knows. Funny thing, my theory of why we respawn after dying is because we're stuck in some sort of loop, forced to do the missions over and over again, sometimes harder, easier, but every death is just like another day in the office. We come back and go do it again, like some sort of purgatory.

[@Can_ix]

"All the guns and bullets are fake." So this is basically just an Airsoft fight

[@blahblahlolololnmmbufur1793]

but they ragdoll after getting hit, so basically just a hardcore airsoft fight

[@theepicshifter1251]

Freelancer: Throws fake grenade SWAT who has to react: YEET

[@blahblahlolololnmmbufur1793]

@@theepicshifter1251 (gets hit by a million airsoft pellets) AAAAAAAAAAAA (fling)

[@theepicshifter1251]

@@blahblahlolololnmmbufur1793 oof indeed

[@vandujrgaming4340]

Rubber boolats are more likely

[@thedaranesianconfederation7221]

Unof, I read the wiki and I might have something to say. The player deceased on the day that the black dusk happened, but epilogue happens much later. The wiki also states that epilogue is a flashback, but the freelancer is dead. This means that either the freelancer knows, which is unlikely for reasons mentioned in the video, however this could also mean that the freelancer suffers from memory loss which would be why he doesn't remember anything. It wouldn't really make sense though because if the killhouse is a collection of our memories, then why would he forget the more important, more recent happenings. Perhaps rose talked him out of it when they first met, which would explain why rose said goodbye until we meet AGAIN, but if the freelancer has seen rose after his death, wouldn't he remember retribution? Because he could remember the blacksite which was much earlier since parts of it have been put into the killhouse... I'm just speculating at this point. Is it possible that the freelancer is training in this mission with what vague memories he has left in the hopes of getting the rest of his memories dead. If he is dead but somehow still able to interact with the world, did he manage to become back, making him alive, respawn?(because the gala is a real life canon location and that's what's used for the map) And how could he die in loud if he's already dead? And if he's dead, are the guards and swat also dead? Is that maybe the revenge? The revenge on the swat? But why the hell would rose be dissapointed in the freelancer if he wants revenge on the swat and goes loud because rose likes explosions? And the name of the badge: give me a real mission. Like, the killhouse is the least of a mission of all of them. It's literally just a part of the deposit but in the map of the gala. What if the real refers to... real life? And not a... post dead? Simulated? Hallucinated one? Or maybe the mission isn't the objectives you get in the killhouse but something else... Rebirth? Regain memories? Could it be that the nightmare is like an opposite of the real universe (with the killhouse?), where the freelancer decides to go to learn more about his past, but a during the mission, a shocking truth is revealed to rose about the alternate freelancer. And since it's the same character as the 'real' one, rose gets dissapointed in the real freelancer. If it was an opposite truth though, the opposite freelancer is alive. It could be that he abandoned the last mission, black dusk, to kill everyone who ever hurt him in the slightest? Is that the revenge? Did he kill jackdaw too? And all the swat? Did the alternate and main freelancer merge? Maybe the freelancer is just going there under hypnosis by rose and while he talks in his sleep, during the time he gains conciousness of the opposite freelancer he talks and makes both rose and him realise something horrible in the real and/or alternate timeline? Making the dream a nightmare? Inspired by unof, I'm going to write here, if you made it this far, make sure to comment #EntryPointWhaaaat? Have fun reading and sorry if I'm torturing you. Also I would have written this in the discord server but I'm underage for the place where I live.

[@justsomeboi532]

Man said a whole speech

[@hochuhleba]

@@justsomeboi532 "I have a dream.."

[@sourwinee]

dawg u needa chill

[@thedaranesianconfederation7221]

@@sourwinee imma be honest... i forgot I wrote this and when i pressed "show all", I did NOT expect this much

[@tanguanyu2364]

Everyone gangsta until they realize the freelancer is actually diavolo

[@atomwalkergt1125]

Oh shit

[@goldentoparican788]

The Freelancer is in Mob of The Dead

[@grequiem486]

Gangstar*

[@jesselukas55idontuploadasm21]

Infinite deaths?

[@justasteamplayer7542]

“This is a test.”

[@WillysStuff]

I like to think of the Killhouse as just a recurring practice session taking place at random times throughout the Freelancer’s time with Halcyon. So whenever I decide to play the game in chronological order, I just play the Killhouse before every mission where I am still working for Halcyon. On a side note I feel that the Concept map is some sort of afterlife, the Freelancer being forced to do a heist over and over as punishment for his crimes. That could explain why it is so similar to the other missions, because those are his experiences. Either that or he’s dreaming.

[@beatqueenofcrud]

I have a theory. The freelancer and rose are trapped there together, right. Well since we can't actually see where rose is, she could be being held hostage by some sort of demon. She and the freelancer are forced to repeat the normal killhouse. This demon created a route of escape that rose does know about, but if the freelancer escapes, rose is eternally destroyed and her existence ended. But idk what rose meant by revenge?

[@byteland_]

So here's my theory. The killhouse, are the thoughts of the freelancer before each mission and afterwards, this can be confirmed by the objects of each mission in the killhouse. The killhouse loop does, before Black Dust. The nightmare mode is the thoughts of the freelancer after the explosion, that is to say he survived the explosion, but he is in a coma, so the nightmare is the loop until he wakes up or dies. Rose's lines are the thoughts of how he acted at Black Dust. This is my theory.

[@byteland_]

And Rose is alive, since, she speaks in the thoughts of the freelancer and it could be she talking to him, but as the freelancer was in a coma he thought it was her spirit talking to him.

[@octupleodyssey]

Black **Dust** lmfao

[@byteland_]

@@octupleodyssey Ok sorry english isn t my primary language

[@atomwalkergt1125]

I actually wish this is true

[@octupleodyssey]

@@byteland_ its not meant to be mean, it actually had me laughing for a good while :P

[@Deaderthanadoorknob2]

Well, if it is a repeating nightmare being tortured by somebody when you did something wrong, it sounds a little like FNAF UCN

[@chrisnewfield4853]

Now that we do have the freelance heists: (Spoilers) It seems very plausible that the split in the timeline occurs based on whether or not you shoot Harvey. When Rose gets mad at you for having your revenge instead of walking away, that could refer to Harvey, when your choices are to shoot him in revenge for betraying you and be unable to fence the gold, or walking away from the gold and leaving Harvey to his con.

[@galaxyeliel]

i thought the same thing

[@quaneersstuff9107]

What if nightmare killhouse is just a limbo state where the FL is sent into a normal situation, a heist. But later on they slowly figure out that this is limbo and they are having the voice of rose as there thought voice. Brining them in deeper.

[@Tollmaster_]

Maybe its a purgatory

[@BirdBrainedBird]

UNOF: pointing out tons of small details seemingly being part of the story Cish: who didn’t intend to

[@Something-ff9cg]

2 possibilities: 1. The freelancer dies in black dusk. The Nightmare is the last memories they had before going to the afterlife. Either they got caught in stealth, or died fighting in loud (probbably chose loud) This actually raises a second theory, which is: - The main timeline may involve the freelancer doing all of the missions on stealth - The alternate timeline is where the freelancer does all missions loud, including Black Dusk. And Black Dusk didn't go so well. 2. In The Nightmare you play as Jackdaw. Had to take your revenge Jackdaw, hadn't you?

[@ddgaxelnilsson7855]

Here’s my theory about KH and NM (Killhouse and Nightmare Assault) Just looking at the name of NM, I think that this is some sort of Nightmare the freelancer has, or something they’re afraid of, and at the end, they hear the last sentences from Rose before she was shot by Falcon, and that of the Nightmare assault itself, is also just something the Freelancer is afraid of, such as an operation going wrong, ending with them dead. Of course, we, the player, knows that the sentences from NM is not what Rose said before she was shot, but the Freelancer might’ve never heard that conversation, and is now just imagining what Rose said. The Killhouse was probably their first training, and that is why NM takes place in KH instead of somewhere else. This is of course just a theory A gAmE tHeOrY

[@ddgaxelnilsson7855]

No problem Ahmed Mekkawy

[@jackdaw9975]

Unof: *publy the video Cish: *watches the video Cish: OH SHIT SOMEONE FOUND IT Unof: And it is not all...

[@Pinkpipola]

*Road to Revenge* Meet Rose Rarity : 1.0% (Impossible)

[@weplaythusgame3439]

I wonder how the HH2020 event ties into this. The 5th pumpkin destroyed said that the current event isn't real, and ??? has Jackdaw talking to the protagonist's grave.

[@KingEatsPants]

this is kinda irrelevant 3 years later but i didnt realise until now that one of the badges you get is called "Give Me A Real Mission" which hints at killhouse not being real. "Give Me A Real Mission - Complete "The Killhouse" on Legend without killing anyone or setting off the alarm"

[@fernandoestrada5539]

I have a theory, during a Halloween event, if you shoot all the pumpkins in the KH, you get teleported to a construction site where you have to fight a seemly endless swat assault,however it stops after a while and then you can hear Jackdaw speaking to you telling you that "Its done" and "The director is dead" and after that... Nothing. I think the freelancer then was finally put to peace. But thats just a theory, a game theory

[@OneRandomYoutuberNamedInvalid]

Updated: During The Halloween event, if you neutralize all pumpkins in KH You get teleported Into The Score Part 2 Where you fight A bunch of S.W.A.T assault, However It stops After The wave, and then you hear J-Dawg Speaking To MC telling The MC “It’s Done” And, “The Director Is Dead” And, No more text and silence, Then We Get put to peace, silence, and chilling, “ *But That’s a theory A GAME THEORY* “

[@huh6553]

Bruh i need to wait 20 sec for the ad

[@JimmyChow42069]

Just use a ad blocker( no money for offical ;( )

[@Wide_Freelancer]

I think for the alternate timeline where the nightmare assault happens the black dusk is the point of separation. The freelancer survives and kills Jackdaw, when he dies, Rose tortures them as a punishment for killing Jackdaw. In the epilogue cutscene the freelancer is wearing a disguise and he never uses a disguise in loud

[@awesomepuppy404]

what if the killhouse isnt actors, but instead a computer simulation?

[@noogidoo2217]

halcyons rich but not THAT rich

[@noogidoo2217]

also its not the future its around 2015

[@FoxenAround]

Plus, how does that train the operatives any better? (Going off of of the Killhouse was actually a training mission)

[@WhatIsThatThingDoing]

That's like a crazy theory I once had, what if they recovered part of the freelancer, sustained his mind in a coma while running them through mental simulations as a successor to the original Onyx? By they, meaning Steel Cove, or whoever the "client" was that Halcyon formerly took orders from.

[@gonnachangemychannel9449]

my theory since the canon is only black dusk being steath, killhouse is the loop with nightmare assault being the point of "doing what you arent supposed to" and how you get it is cutting every wire in kill house (as i remember), that turned off the power ofc but the "acting" became real and rose saying that wasn't supposed to happen basically says she knew it wasn't real and was acting when it ended the loop was going back to normal but the twist is theres an exit gap now from such bad loop distortion for example the exit is killing all pumpkins for some reason, or do something "you weren't supposed to" again and the loop broke, triggering the ??? event from halloween appearing in a construction site apperently above kill house or the after life is completely distorted spawning (seemingly) endless SWATs, once you survive long enough, they stop appearing and you can hear jackdaw saying your job is done, director is dead and hes proud of you, then you seem to flee by helicopter and exit the distorted reality into whatever other afterlife you are going in, most likely eternal peace

[@channel-wt3ff]

My theory is that the killhouse is a special place in purgetory for people who joined helcyon or used to be in helcyon. I just realised in the gala which might also be the redecorated version of the killhouse Rose mentioned that Wren designed all the props so this is proof that the killhouse might be a special place in purgetory.

[@The_Unknown_Agent]

I have a theory. What if the person your playing as isn't you, but instead it's jackdaws memory of a training session when rose was still alive.

[@master_mind422]

It's definitely a totally different person (which is yourself) because jackdaw trained rose he was the person giving instructions while rose carried out the operations and not the other way around (like in kill house) and jackdaw was also seen as an old man while rose is still young so it might indicate that jackdaw trained rose when she was a child and when jackdaw was young.

[@JotaIsTired]

about the thing of the killhouse combining elements from previous missions i agree with you, but in my opinion killhouse is the hell, hell of freelancer and rose, because from what i understand each of us has a diferent heaven and hell, and this is freelancer and rose's hell, completing the mission... for ever. and now going for the theory part, the nightmare assault is to like free rose's soul, since rose is the kind that kick the door and shoots in the air, if you end up completing nightmare assault rose is free in your time line, and about the halloween event, it's basically same thing but for freelancer, something else about that event i wanna mention, problably at the moment jackdaw come to talk with us he lets his eyepatch in the tombstone but i guess everyone already know about that.

[@jeroldchico7543]

Ok I have a 2nd theory: The killhouse happed in May 15-16 2015. Maybe the freelancer was dreaming of him doing a hard loud test- Killhouse nightmare. Then rose appeared in his dream saying that she is dead. Because once you are escaping with the loot in killhouse nightmare, she will say got your revenge? or something and at the end she said, Au revoir which means goodbye we will meet again. Maybe rose is saying that they will meet again at Heaven when the freelancer die. And rose is saying that in his dream because she is saying goodbye to the freelancer is his dream. R.I.P Rose, Falcon i will bring my squad to plant 24 C4 at u >:(

[@quoteofthevideo8801]

Theory: every time the freelancer is killed in a mission like the Deposit or Blacksite, they are put into the Killhouse loop, where they are forced to train forever pretty much. Possibly they are linked to alternate timelines where those other copies of your freelancer who become more skilled (Perk points). I'm quite surprised you didn't cover the hidden messages in The Gala, but I came up with a theory about them on my own. Maybe the messages are the reminiscence of other deceased freelancers who endured the nightmare assault and found out the truth of the Killhouse loop?

[@Litleo276]

Theory: the freelancer is stuck in the killhouse, but breaks out of the loop in nightmare. But then the freelancer goes to the Score, as portrayed in HH20. At the end of the HH20 mission, jackdaw says Rest in Peace, and I think the freelancer was finally able to rest

[@isgarbage1808]

Hold on cish says rose is not dead and the “kill house” takes place after “black dusk” maybe the freelancer lives or when the freelancer betrays halcyon it is a dream and the “withdraw” to the “epilogue”

[@eooh8027]

the freelancer is definitely dead because in the BD lock file it says that he's dead and no way could he survive

[@RinRin72769]

BITES THE DUST maybe?

[@bruh5299]

Cush doesnt watch Jojo I guess

[@legandfoxy1955]

I just thought of something. In the Gala rose said something similar to "the killhouse sounds better wren" (idk i forgot the exact words) this could be saying that the killhouse was an idea for training operatives but got changed to the gala. This could explain why the gala and the killhouse maps are similar.

[@thatguyinthegroup2728]

Can't wait to be doing Nightmare Killhouse and see Ryan with the S.W.A.T.

[@setin843]

What if the Freelancer is still alive but he's in something like a coma?

[@danielschons7691]

i aprove and garantee

[@RubyTerrarian]

Rose is disappointed in The Shadow War and the fact that you took revenge on Halcyon (Rose also punished Jackdaw for trying to take revenge on Halcyon by calling Steel Cove in The Lakehouse.)

[@Local_Lad]

the divergence is probably the time that jackdaw hired you. in the alt timeline you defended the base, you weren't attacking it, this explains why the drill is there and no other phoenix memories

[@Local_Lad]

also a note, the diamond drill would have been seen if you where defending.

[@teamkong9216]

I think Casciato might be a fan of Five Nights at Freddys. This sounds like an exact creepy, surprising copy. It's like a punishment for insane actions in life.

[@somerandomperson4586]

The only thing i can think about the divergence would be killing harvey or not. Was our morales to dispose those who wronged you or let go of it. Maybe thats why nightmare is loud only, we wanted to fight everything. Not sure just a random theory

[@danishjordan5081]

so Rose trap Freelancer into Time Loop *Korega Nightmare Assault Requiem Da*

[@iii_T3a]

I like to imagine the original timeline plays the normal Loud soundtracks during Loud and the Killhouse Nightmare timeline plays all the alternate soundtracks instead.

[@gazenmedia]

That moment where the timelines split was when the player chose to kill harvey or not. (or something to do with loud and steath, take your pick) this could also be hell, as rose seems to torment the freelancer in the nightmare, this also means all the people the free lancer is fighting are also dead. Probaly from the freelancer, halycon, etc.

[@AltWixben]

yeah probably cuz the story is unrealiatic

[@Deaderthanadoorknob2]

I just realized that all of the missions that take place when the freelancer is dead all are connected to the killhouse. Killhouse - It is the killhouse Nightmare Assault - It is in the killhouse ??? - Requires to shoot all the pumpkins in the killhouse

[@ChosenPlayer100]

Au Revoir just means Goodbye it doesnt mean they will both meet again its just a way of saying goodbye

[@rocky47251]

It literally means re-see but people use it as a farewell, and people only mean good bye when they say it, however it still literally means goodbye until we meet again.

[@REELWORKS12923]

my thoughts are that the split in the timeline is if wren kills you in dedication. (you know, a world where he skips over the one liner and just shoots)

[@ishigami4622]

"All the guns and bullets are fake" c4 and claymores: Am i a joke to you?

[@noahyuen7245]

The alt timeline could be that the freelancer was with phoenix from the start but at ashes joined halcyon and worked for halcyon and the black dusk is for Phoenix instead of halcyon (i mean the freelancer is defending the bunker against the phenix operatives)

[@steve1loI]

The kill house is probably an fever dream inside freelancers dying mind in the rubble of black dusk, It’s a collection of your memories, like rose being the announcer

[@semipsychoticgamer]

Idea: Everytime Finch finished nightmare assault, he/she always wrote Provenance on the walls with their blood from their wounds, and it saved for the next loop, and so on. I think you mentioned this but I quite don't remember.

[@romy.9548]

this man just answered the world's most hardest questions

[@madsinj4722]

There's actually a major divergence in the main story, it doesn't affect the normal story but it may be unlikely. During the scientist, there are two conditions where Rivera lives or dies, but the story goes on. It may affect, as Rivera's death would be the freelancer's responsibility.

[@SpacatoTT]

I like to imagine that the Kill house is just the Freelancer trying to fuse all his memories when dead, but the nightmare assault is him realizing that this imaginary heist wasn't real, and then wakes up on his purgatory

[@stripethecatsoldier]

i thought the killhouse was some kind of dream world since the naming of the nightmare mode (i get that it's pretty common when it comes to naming difficulties but nightmare isn't used in any other level in the game) edit: theres also a theory that rose is talking to someone else at the end of nightmare, like jackdaw or falcon

[@kamilslup7743]

i think that mission "The Killhouse" didn't even happened, because it's not in the Ironman mode.

[@ash-gs3qj]

Damn already been 2 years since this vid, entry point was peak man

[@The-Jam-Jar]

Maybe it's the freelancer's mind, playing it's last heist just in his/her mind right after they died, as like a final test? It has elements from every mission that the freelancer's done, and it's like it's flashing before their eyes, right before they die, as rose tries to escort the freelancer to the afterlife.

[@danishjordan5081]

But hey is just a Theory A *GAME THEOR-* **Thumper Noises**

[@superfnaf2948]

This my theory what if The Freelancer survived Black Dusk. And when Rose speaks it's just some old recording tapes and the nightmare is the Freelancer having trauma or a brain injury from the explosion or just a harder version that haylcon did.

[@bruh5299]

Congratulations! You made me scared forever

[@tlcheng2846]

you might already figured this out but i just got carried in nightmare and this sounds like a second part to rose's talk in the kill director legend stealth solo cut scene finished by jackdaw Kill house : "it didnt have to end this way" that cut scene : "what if there was another path for us"

[@britecan8447]

7:16 I think i may know where this PoD takes place. And thats The FLH: Departure cutscene for this reason: Once Harvey is shot after attemting to Blackmail the freelancer, TFL has 2 Options: Spare or kill Harvey; which either way teaches TFL the same lesson. This reason is (almost) the same as in Dedication Wren shoots TFL but is killed by Jackdaw and is given the task to *KILL* Halcyon but this is where things could get interesting: In FLH, it is (so far) never said what happens to Harvey after Departure on the EP Wiki, it is (so far) the players choice so heres what i believe: Killing Harvey: FL becomes sick for vengence and kills Halcyon without mercy. NMA Timeline. Sparing Harvey: FL kills Halcyon and dies with them but without firing a bullet *(remember stealth BD is canon and theres gold badges where you need to be pacifist where as in BD the bombs kill them. Not to mention theres no stealth alt soundtracks)* KH timeline.

[@mrgar4446]

Realistic Scenario: The Killhouse takes place in the beginning, and end. It happens twice. The beginning is the Freelancer, and in the end it's Jackdaw. The first time it's you, the Freelancer working for Halcyon in your training. The second time however, it's Jackdaw going back for revenge. We know that from the Halloween 2020 event that Jackdaw was incredibly hurt and destroyed by the Freelancer's death. An empire doesn't crumble in a day. Halcyon is still around from its loyalists, and those that were in power before the fall took charge in leading it. Jackdaw knew this and went back to the Killhouse location, which he knew, to kill the actors with actual weapons. Halcyon took advantage of this controlled environment to let out an all out assault on him to kill him. Rose is Jackdaw going insane from shock after all of the people he knew died in the Phoenix-Halcyon war. Rose is in his head. "Au Revoir" is Jackdaw about to commit suicide after doing genocide on the enemy for fifteen minutes. Again, Rose is jackdaw going insane. He decides to commit suicide after realizing that even rose would think that what he was doing was psycopathic. "Au Revoir" is Jackdaw preparing to meet rose in the afterlife after realizing that the mission will never be completed and there is no escape from the Killhouse. There is no afterlife loop, only insanity, Jackdaw, and the remnants of Halcyon.

[@notshiro6456]

What if the Point of Divergence is actually The Freelancer shooting Harvey????????? It would make sense considering the screen just goes black shortly after you shoot Harvey, same as the lights going out in the Nightmare assault.

[@tenseley9231]

The Time Loop might explain why we can replay old missions.(3:06)

[@silyster7590]

i am very late to this but here is my theory: What if the NM mode is simply the freelancer's nightmares before black dusk, it's them reminiscing about their time together before rose died and they were all in ignorant bliss and that their relationship with rose was much closer than we all think considering the fact the freelancer doesn't have many other friends. Also, what if guilt was eating up the freelancer during his time with Pheonix but the feelings of revenege were too strong for them to actually listen to their own selves, and that the NM/KH was their conciousness warning them about it through the form of nightmares/dreams? It would explain the non-ending loop.

[@Kriegter]

Acting to be killed? Playing dead? Damn hope there are no cheaters

[@luiskuci4721]

I got my theory of alt timeline and main timeline: 1.In main timeline when you play Ironman You will die in the end and destroy Halcyon the last mission is black dusk so nothing went wrong and its endless normal killhouse. 2.In alt timeline you end by joining Phoenix and last mission is The deposit, you have to interrogate the commander on the blacksite and go all stealth.You have to do it very well and in lakehouse you might find the files in lab and Pheonix never packs them to save them so you get to steal them all with the servers and I never got the alternate soundtrack in deposit but I think it happens in alt timeline by making you die after deposit because Halcyon destroys the Pheonix by files you got and that's the thing that went wrong that's the deceive.

[@ezra211]

Great video..... sheesh it gives me the creeps.

[@_Gam3r]

it would be interesting if this was some afterlife where you are forced to fight in the killhouse for all eternity as punishment

[@imagevalo]

I think that Rose's text in the nightmare implies that we never betrayed Halcyon for Phoenix (Jackdaw). While rose did so she is mad at us for not joining Phoenix.

[@MineSlimeTV]

I have no freaking clue and no idea about this entire codes and they almost scare me for what they are as I did not knew they even existed only thanks to this videos

[@Eve19373]

Maybe this is their personal heaven, allowing them to do heists without caring about revenge. And nightmare mode is just there to give them more of a challenge if they want it

[@sparrowEP]

the fact that i did nightmare first confused me on what was happening, i was trying to only do normal killhouse on elite ended up i saw a dark wire and then i saw another dark wire then i placed drill after then i was like: AYO WTF and went to google asaic and i was surprised. and then i decided to watch all the cutscenes and i was a little comfused during withdrawal i was like: what? wheres rose? i thought she was my mission coordinator.. nd then i decided its probably nothing. thanks for wasting your time reading this.

[@The-Jam-Jar]

I feel you

[@sparrowEP]

@@The-Jam-Jar ok

[@santiagomontiellaverde74]

the ambience of the nightmare killhouse make me remember to the killhouse and safehouse nightmare of the payday 2, but whit the twisted meaning of the UCN of FNAF, and that timeline theory ALSO make me remember about UNDERTALE genocide route, GOD THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS

[@hi_bran]

well, for my opinion.. i think the freelance heists will be a loud expansion.. because we already have night heists.

[@hyprostic]

What if the freelancer's body was never found after blackdusk? That could mean the freelancer is in a permanent coma or an extreme vegetative state and perhaps this is a very real nightmare for them. What if when they actually beat the nightmare the freelancer will awaken from the coma? Well its likely the freelancer died so this is a very thin and slim possibility. But I'll still put it out there, because maybe he's an a steel cove ICU ward.

[@WhatIsThatThingDoing]

Perhaps being used to develop Onyx successor models using what remains of his total experience, like a plot from the Metal Gear series.

[@hyprostic]

@@WhatIsThatThingDoing This is a really cool idea honestly and may have actually happened, it may also be a reason that he diverges from KH to NM. Like perhaps the new Onyx uses FL's mind as it is one of if not the best operative of all time and hence does something to cause a difference in reality (hence the lights going out) and Rose saying "Aurevoir" is simply a reference to him now being perpetually stuck in Onyx until he finds a way to escape. "goodbye till we meet again".

[@syntaxerr0r220]

what i think about this i think theres 2 divergences instead of 1. the first, i think occured when the FL accepted to join the ranks of Halcyon. then second, occured in the Dedication. in the alternate timeline, which i now call "Halcyon Timeline", the freelancer never joined Phoenix, or even get involved in it. they continue normal operations, and in the end Halcyon wins the Shadow War. triggering the Killhouse it may not make sense, since in the Dedication, Wren got orders to kill the FL there. but this is a timeline, you know what i mean? now the main timeline, which i call "Phoenix Timeline", is different. and i think this timeline is what triggers the nightmare mode. jackdaw got their revenge, the freelancer got their revenge, phoenix got what they wanted. they destroyed halcyon and then, after the freelancer's death, the nightmare occurs. (im not sure if this one is mentioned in the video) just like what unof said, this is an infinite loop. which causes the FL to be stuck, and i think in the phoenix timeline, the nightmare mode never ends at all, they just keep going. then the freelancer keeps note of everything, they then starts going insane, yet calm. they started writing "Provenance" on the wall, explaining why is there so much provenance text. and explaining why the freelancer didnt even bother to ask whats happening in the nightmare mode. either by guilt or the fact theyre going insane the THIRD timeline, which i call "Freelancer Timeline", is somewhat the same as Halcyon Timeline. the yfreelancer never joins Halcyon, or even Phoenix. They don't know anything about the Shadow war, and they continue normal operations as a freelancer.

[@Kriegter]

What if What if the whole thing was a liv action rp so no one is dead which is why rose and feelance is alive in killhouse training for the next airsoft event

[@Vanta444]

I was just playing killhouse and when it started it said "Welcome back to the killhouse. Does it feel like home yet?"

[@counter-terrordoge3335]

Remember that one time the Freelancer told Jackdaw that he was gonna have a long talk with him in ‘Retribution’ after it was all over? What if Finch killed Jackdaw as an act of ‘Revenge’ but he also completed Black Dusk in the alternate timeline? It would be understandable if Rose got mad if the FL killed her father-figure.

[@Gead_Hiver]

What if instead of the killhouse being the loop. All of it is a loop we did all the missions and now we are playing them forever. That would explain why we can play missions on demand.

[@Unofficial_YT]

Interesting theory, however there is no evidence of us doing anything but the Killhouse after our death, and only the Killhouse is "After Epilogue."

[@Gead_Hiver]

@@Unofficial_YT yeah I just thought about it. But the killhouse is redone over and over while the others have dates

[@soIzec]

Au revoir Ow revv wah

[@danishjordan5081]

*why i found this similiar to giorno / ger quote saying korega requiem da*

[@alexniccah]

This makes a lot of sense due to the freelance heists, the point of divergence is where the freelancer shoots their partner or doesn't

[@chrischan1244]

So basically the freelancer just dies and experiences a diavolo infinite death

[@jeroldchico7543]

I have a theory: The freelancer and Racheal aka Rose is just mistakenly dead. And they both rejoined halcyon Note: This is just a THEORY there are no evidence that this is true. Plus in the killhouse nightmare, Rose said, "Au revior" in French means: Goodbye