Breaking the Fourth Wall: The Paradox of Entry Point

[@bearimpaler101]

"Stop breaking my immersion" "stop breaking my rules" Harveys best line.

[@Vordstar]

"Player choice does not affect the storyline" Player: dies Storyline: nope you're not dead.

[@hippugamer6689]

w cish for making esc r possible

[@TheAnnoyedGoose]

@@hippugamer6689me messing up when getting gold badges: “alright, just put that gun to my head and… mission start again”

[@thecodestercraft]

rose with a beard breaking into a bank???? next level stuff

[@ExtraPrivatable]

Qq

[@contaminatedduck4959]

ae

[@CanadiansAreYummy]

ae

[@Error-qn2nj]

its probably rose's father

[@blackwatch2516]

your avater fits into this situation

[@greencrown8327]

There is also a dialogue in the setup which, if you kill someone, Harvey will say: "So you're one of the player that take out the manager in The Withdrawal?"

[@tf_is_this_shit]

You can't prove that

[@greencrown8327]

@@tf_is_this_shit If you have Freelance Heists then you can play The Setup and see for yourself and btw, The Setup is a stealth only mission.

[@MrSimon101]

@@tf_is_this_shitIt’s true, look through the wiki for proof.

[@canserpatient4207]

cish really do be calling everyone out doing challenges

[@bobbyjoey07]

Hello jiarrel

[@s0ms481]

Jezz that was harsh cish

[@denisgaming5739]

Then having no friends must be a challange , quess im a winner

[@peasant5063]

"Keep doing challenge runs." - Harvey

[@kakkupukki]

The Setup also had a dialogue, that goes like this: The Freelancer: Kills a guard. Jade (Or Harvey cannot remember): That guard had a family. The Freelancer: That guard wasn't real.

[@eimerhegel427]

Harvey: Okay fine, but you still broke the rules

[@Unknow680]

@@eimerhegel427 The Freelancer: Well it up to them if this mission get compilte or not if it fail this never happnt

[@thecatwasinuranium9881]

It was Harvey, jade's color is green. Yeah lol answering after 11 months

[@gome6412]

Funniest thing is that later he is the one who kills Dmitry, as he shot on Dmitry's side. Dmitry had a family.

[@alikemaldeniz1413]

That seems like dimirty instead of jade or harvey.

[@asquare9650]

"Stop doing challenges" Stop breaking the 4th wall

[@skell6134]

They just dont know pain of public lobbies

[@catgaming9369]

Wait. I have seen that profile Pic somewhere

[@gooseguy1641]

From what I can tell, Black Dusk loud would still work with the epilogue. Firstly, the elevator door is closed during the cutscene so no one is there to interrupt the freelancer if you are referring to the lack of any Halcyon operatives present. If you're referring to the text: "They know we're here. They've locked down the elevator[,]" I think that this is fine given the situation both loud and stealth. In stealth, Halcyon realized about the freelancer's endeavors either prior to or during the mission. In loud, I think that it is safe to assume that Halcyon knew about the freelancer's appearance, and still managed to lock down the elevator. The "They know we're here," part could have been more of stating-the-obvious rhetoric.

[@JS-uh3ms]

Unofficial meant that in epilogue, the Freelancer was wearing the disguise of an elite operative. That wouldn't be necessary in loud tho

[@gooseguy1641]

@@JS-uh3ms Ah, that makes much more sense! I can't believe I did not notice that before.

[@PulzeDevel]

@@JS-uh3ms technically it could be half stealth half loud

[@PulzeDevel]

Also something weird for BD is that you get a badge either way for legend

[@skell6134]

Dude,not dialogue breaking canon of Loud But Elite Operative disguise doing it

[@offandsphere6788]

I think this "diverge from timeline then join up again at a later node" is how the developers of The Henry Stickmin Collection avoided saddling themselves with _massive_ amounts of work. If we exclude Completing the Mission and Breaking the Bank, there are four complete games with three or more endings each-if _every single combination_ was taken into account, there would be whopping _180_ endings for Completing the Mission. Thankfully, Escaping the Prison and Stealing the Diamond all have endings that are super flexible story-wise, allowing the developers to completely disregard those endings and only focus on the combinations for Infiltrating the Airship and Fleeing the Complex. There's still some endings to shave off, as an ending like The Betrayed would really only make sense with the ending Rapidly Promoted Executive. One of my favorite parts of The Henry Stickmin Collection, though, are the fails, but that's still _nothing_ compared to the secret ending in Completing the Mission. Basically, the fails are like those "non-canon" strings that start off at one node but never connect to another. Except in the secret ending, the game breaks the fourth wall by implying that the fails created so many of these non-canon strings, so it "cleans up" all the strings and endings to make space for more fails and endings in the multiverse.

[@marcuscheng9413]

that's true.

[@captainzachary2477]

I found out that in the score solo. They break the 4th wall

[@aTf2SoldierMain]

You get it in legend, same.

[@StrvB-ng8kb]

Returning to it, BD loud can still be cannon since Halcyon staff might catch Freelancer's (or just Phoenix Operative in general for them) involvement either way, and stall the elevator to either investigate if you was doing stealth run or to take the protagonist out too if it is loud run.

[@goober23459]

Onyx boss fight in a nutshell: Some angry bald dude with an insane amount of health and a minigun

[@catgaming9369]

My name is heavy weapons guy.

[@halcyon4485]

Then I take him down with a basic f57 and iii a frontline :P

[@anonymously_]

@@catgaming9369 and this, is my weapon

[@yoapitas3point052]

I am heavy weapons guy.

[@realwhitegxroblox]

Cool, I’m learning science

[@NotAnAlex_Guy]

yes u r

[@saphingus]

Oh no hot man is here

[@Ciaobyebye]

Bill Nye the Science Guy

[@BlackbatsSince2019]

Forget physics, Entry Point role is the true science

[@YourLocalDeveloper0]

@@saphingusw h a t

[@beatqueenofcrud]

You forgot "You're one of those people who kill the manager in The Withdrawal"

[@kenshinrx]

Yeah lmao

[@skell6134]

I said already:We going LOUD,whats wrong with killing manager when we going loud ?))

[@beatqueenofcrud]

@@skell6134 lmao

[@skell6134]

@@beatqueenofcrud I still dont understand "stealth"thing everyone talking about))

[@claymcgranahan]

I killed the manger once and the guy with me was so mad he set off the alarm.

[@e.y.t1263]

I believe that it’s just an inside joke that cish did on purpose to troll us all

[@OscarDoesStuff-pz5dw]

thres more dialogue in the setup, one of them when u kill the camera guy it says that youre the type of guy who kills the manager in withdrawal, when the withdrawal mission is like years later and harvey never lived to see it

[@Lemomars]

not to mention that we can wear a gold mask and no clothing in public areas during stealth and we still get treated like normal sane civilians

[@ballsacsincorp]

Hm... This man is wearing a gold mask and is stripped down. I wonder what convention are they going to

[@ash-gs3qj]

Me: Wears welding mask and combat outfit Civilians: Wow, cool costume!

[@Adi_The_Gamer4158]

Well then why can't I hold a gun?

[@MrRobloxIndonesia]

At first FH, was kinda the same thing as TNH. But when Cish break the 4th wall, im literally hook.

[@miketheant1107]

What makes black dusk loud uncanon? The "They know we're here" line? When that was said, me and my friends said "Yeah, i mean, they SENT A GUY WITH A FRICKING MINIGUN DOWN HERE"

[@jownadel1526]

In the cutscene, you are wearing an elite disguise, which would not be necessary in loud

[@legion6211]

The onyx unit is cish saying don't escape I will gun you down

[@eimerhegel427]

@@jownadel1526 Probably Freelancer already brought it before the mission, but ofc they can't wear it because of the guard in front of the elevator

[@kedistan6701]

08:40 guard: ı cannot sleep without body bag

[@thatoneweirdo2221]

We need to make this game into a full steam game.

[@123thebigguy9]

Payday 2 copy strike

[@questionableargumentations1364]

@@123thebigguy9 it's not even like pay day 2 nor game play, missions, enemies

[@jotarokujo1435]

Yes, YES

[@jotarokujo1435]

You’re thinking of notoriety

[@thatoneweirdo2221]

It’s better than pay day 2

[@agente7202]

Everybody gangsta till the character get out from the monitor

[@randomboijustsiting]

i like to belive whenever you stray from the main plot story line aka how the events actually played out the characthers just break and realize that they are in a game and just break the 4th wall

[@Kriegter]

this further backs up my theory this is a live action roleplay

[@theguywhichismessingaround]

Fun fact: I was in a lobby with a guy which had a class called legend. He probably tought It would be nice to be perfect in any kind of mission.

[@BuilderB08]

Actually, there are theories that the departure choice changes the killhouse, killing Harvey makes it nightmare assault, not killing him is normal

[@gabemuldoon120]

In one of unofficial other vids about the mystery of the kill house he said that there was some revenge or mistake that Rose didn't approve of and decided to punish the freelancer.

[@mechanicalmacbook]

actually it's more of "hey freelancer pls dont help jackdaw" "no" "ah so helping jackdaw eh im making you camp in the same spot for like 1/3 an hour and since this is elite/legend you're dead see you in the afterlife" it's not about harvey it's about defecting to phoenix and actually working for jackdaw kind of thing and yes i know this is 6 months ago

[@ReconDVN]

@@mechanicalmacbook late but its 1/4 a hour

[@TeamSerendipity1]

5:38 Aidan Operative

[@mely5326]

Why did you even do that W h y But hey it's free content

[@rednova05]

I really thought that this channel was dead

[@ariel827]

Ladies and gentlemen, the Madpat of Entry Point, someone who points out the game lore that even the developer doesn't know exists

[@anlkurul8315]

I think BD loud is real ending because freelancer says "They know I am here" so it has to be loud For the lockdown at elevator, halcyon have to know the freelancer is there so it has to be loud. If they knew the freelancer was there, they would directly raise the alarm.

[@mangoto9473]

they found the last 2 bombs and locked the elevator

[@Acousticmf123]

They wore an elite disguise where why would u wear it in loud

[@bestdogshadow383]

@@Acousticmf123 Wait really? I thought that was just my characters avatar

[@Amfrenchhuhuhu]

in loud you get noticed immediately so why would the freelancer say that if he did loud

[@calzie4762]

Guard like MY BAG AND ME SWEEP

[@theguywhichismessingaround]

This guy sounds like a young matpat trying to find a cure from cancer at fnaf

[@haybale__23]

Hi Unofficial! Huge fan!

[@toastitis9752]

ok

[@Memezndreamz]

You ever realized suppressors give a damage boost as well as suppression making it pretty op as a hybrid modifier allowing stealth to be more easier to giving the player an easy way to one shot swat with a shotgun in lower difficulty

[@toastitis9752]

what.

[@Memezndreamz]

@@toastitis9752 you can modify a suppressor onto any gun and as long as it is concealed it’s good for stealth and for some reason it boosts the amount of dog per shot

[@deadperson6227]

@@Memezndreamz you can oneshot swat without a suppressor on any difficulty.

[@toastitis9752]

@@Memezndreamz amount of dog? also, you can still put suppressors into unconcealed guns and suppressors are made for stealth also shotgun is not good for the score since its no use getting close to the van, also getting like a choke is better for a shotgun because you'll get more pellets into the right place. one last thing, stats show up so it's easy to understand suppressors deal extra damage

[@Memezndreamz]

@@toastitis9752 ye that’s what I mean but the best guns for stealth are guns you can conceal with a suppressor since although they’re so good but they give more size to the gun or something making it easier to find

[@skell6134]

And actually... if Cish saying that we dont rly need Ryan alive,so why he did put cash penality for his death ? = -= And... wow,what ? so at higher difficulty's like Legend killing at The Setup would lead auto-fail like getting detected ? And actually... Cish still can make another cutscene for Loud version of Black Dusk,just by adding Aegis armor and standart outfit on Freelancer . ,. And make alt cutscene unlock depending on plan on which Black Dusk been beaten

[@gameerman7898]

so bassically the player is: a sparing person or a merciless mercenary

[@yaboil7774]

According to Cish Elite is the "canon" difficulty (where killing the guard will insta fail the mission)

[@ballsacsincorp]

It seems like legend is the difficulty on loud, as no one can survive like 10 shots without armor

[@danielschons7691]

i tink blackdusk loud is canon because eplogue wont change there were peple alive to stop the elevator

[@toastitis9752]

in epilogue we have elite operative disguise, also they see the last 2 bombs, remember?

[@PoisonIvory088]

"sToP dOiNg ChAlLeNgE rUnS" - Harvey

[@akyrx1241]

4:23 Spero or Sparrow? Im confused

[@g11operator]

The fact that the fourth wall applies to theatre

[@skell6134]

Actually-yes

[@zunari7578]

You deserve more subscribers! Why do you still have only 5k?

[@gamingfreezer2499]

now that im watching this in the year 2023...each node is now called a canon event, mister.

[@iAnonymous877]

Miguel O'Hara is behind the scenes of every failed run. And yes, that means your failed runs of deposit rookie.

[@gamingfreezer2499]

@@iAnonymous877 i've been successfully exposed

[@cinderleaves3949]

Why do they break the fourth wall so much in EP? Mainly in FH? Also lol Rose with beard breaking into a bank with explosives. Me as Rose with no beard breaks in with UP9s.

[@halleyalex7544]

The Freelancer Heist is expensive and they do that to intertain the people who bought them in my opinion at least

[@Acousticmf123]

@@halleyalex7544 dosent really matter when ytbers exist but nothing beats doing it yourself

[@halleyalex7544]

@@Acousticmf123 wdym

[@Acousticmf123]

@@halleyalex7544 im saying its always better to experience it yourself rather than watching a youtube video

[@halleyalex7544]

@@Acousticmf123 true

[@octupleodyssey]

0:12 same, that this video doesnt have freelance heists spoilers at the start of it

[@astrowastaken_2359]

for the scientist, i think that the canon version is a stealth loud mission where the freelancer got rivera alive but got caught and desided to raid the control room too for intel bc, if we're screwed, at least get some things in + too

[@celiaferreira9165]

If the mission is done in stealth, there is a line of dialogue where jackdaw says that he is sending a team of Operatives to raid the control room.

[@bobuxcmdpt]

very detailed video, I love it

[@justanormalscshredder7424]

Legend difficulty give heart attack not better experience

[@leomomoeda10]

Dang that 1 bobux is pretty expensive

[@giulgu17]

Pog a new video!

[@Nickbeatles1984]

detection rate also wouldn't be real, because you wouldn't be like "wait is that a person carrying a gun or is it just an illusion on my head"

[@RealMcSpoon]

10:44 It would be cannon if you start on stealth but finish in loud.

[@ToxicTerren]

“You can’t prove that”

[@eimerhegel427]

Entry point lore: J-Dawg mad and angy Entry point gameplay:

[@livek1238]

I love the 4th wall in games

[@anemulol467]

The skill tree might have a smilliar version to real life as the skill tree could what skills you have, like say you have the blowtorch but you need the fire bug perk right? But without the ‘perk’ your character doesn’t know how to use it, and the level might be how experienced your character might be, with more experience your character know more things. It also applies to the minor perks like ‘masquerade’ could be how to fit into the disguise rap t like what the might act like etc

[@somenerd8139]

yeah but I don't think you need to be very experienced to use a blowtorch, or a C4, or a breaching charge.

[@junyouhans]

Yes it’s out

[@doglord8000]

WHO IS RYAN???? wait i am.

[@Rgd0]

the legend mission is mean to be like this phoenix has alot missions for u to take some of them hard so they call it legend missions but when he said calm down man its just a game then uh A?

[@TaoDragon_]

It would be cool if there was a epilogue with black dusk loud

[@graveltheblock5578]

Some of these dialogue can be taken the other way around as weird sarcasm except the first one

[@puganimations2418]

4th wall breaking should be the offical canon ngl they are all reading from a script as shown in the april fools update the break wall in freelance missions etc

[@justanormalscshredder7424]

Its not Rose Its Uncle Rose Its Uncle Dane but i changed it to Uncle Rose 😳

[@memester9956]

Cishtato is a genious

[@PulzeDevel]

My only question is why we need to raid data center in loud rivera alive but not in stealth rivera alive other than making it difficult

[@void1913]

I'm pretty sure it's because Jackdaw will want to send his field researchers to investigate the server room

[@PulzeDevel]

@@void1913 in stealth we don't

[@questionableargumentations1364]

@@PulzeDevel After we start loud Jackdaw understands that TRU will take all info from computers after investigating house but on stealt no cops involved so no one will clear data before Jackdaw's people

[@talksoccerdisstracks5935]

-entry point meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeemes-

[@hotdogs4177]

Imagine doing black dusk stealth We gotta avenge rose in the only way she would approve of

[@Acousticmf123]

Sadly bd stealth is canon

[@neurological1722]

bruh imagine not knocking out everyone in the setup

[@TheJ69420]

Love you and ur videos

[@brunozocolaro1180]

nice vid

[@acrucru8675]

Wait... what if killing or not killing Harvey has something to do with the killhouse/nightmare killhouse thing

[@blackice7050]

sadly it doesn't have anything to do with any of them

[@captainrex6137]

I think black dusk should have 2 endings so that both loud and stealth are cannon but you need to do stealth for the stealth ending and loud for loud ending

[@Cec451]

Hey uno can you talk about deception another work of freefall studios

[@caramelp0pcorn]

Harvey:if this would be legend you would be done. Freelancer:Okay boomer.

[@MykeGG]

So, i now understand that Legend is the canon story difficulty

[@sevenless2143]

No, it is elite actually

[@edemzigah5582]

What's next for this channel. The game is officially over. How will you carry on? Will you find another game for content?

[@juanjox2006]

5:14 actually i think the canon one its the stealth with rivera alive, in the night heist "the cache" there is a lock code that tell us how rivera was MIA and falcon taken down, so ... yeah, i would say stealth Scientist its the actually canon, if rivera was actually dead, the corpse would be found by halcyon and the intel in "the cache" would say she was dead and Deceased

[@calzie4762]

The one thing I want is if you wear shades you get detected but that will make stealth infamous and when you kill in setup he says are you da guy who kill manager in withdrawwal

[@irishjayme8165]

how do u do those missions?

[@Acousticmf123]

Use 12 dollars woth of robux

[@audiandranveer8653]

Tbh I agree with Unof, I have never seen Spero do a mission on Elite Stealth

[@aidengallimore6793]

I think the freelancer made a deal with deadpool because of all the 4th wall breaks

[@PulzeDevel]

Also what if the 4th wall breaks may actually mean something?

[@PJBloop]

Harvey and the freelancer is a god and can see 4th wall

[@astrowastaken_2359]

and technicly if we knock them out, they would still be aliveto do their job, so it would be canon

[@jotarokujo1435]

Bluck dusk loud is cannon. The freelancer couldn’t get out because of the elavator and the lack of time and dies. I don’t get why you said it wasn’t cannon

[@Acousticmf123]

Because u wear an elite disguise in epilouge like bruh

[@brennankarachinskii1210]

Wow dude, good hack of my favorite game

[@yobro4794]

its more of a joke lol but cool video also i believe entry points story is really not that complicated

[@chubbypete24125]

character with every perk: com-spec-jugg-inf-breach-tech. or maybe mega freelancer?

[@pineapplejuice6954]

Ultra instinct freelancer

[@Acousticmf123]

I would call it “Messenger” what that means it sends you a message to not mess with phoenix or the freelancer

[@ioguuu]

@@Acousticmf123 2 years ago, you had this terrible idea.

[@haybale__23]

I'm the 2nd one to watch if the 1st one was you!

[@OuredFoster]

freelancer: Nooooooo!!! you cant just mention we are in a video game and ruin my immersion! :((( Harvey: haha, 4th wall go BOOM

[@louis-kt5yo]

I love how you stop for memes every video

[@Therealnumberfive]

I thought the perks was just training with stuff so you could use it properly

[@CheziBurgoirEpic]

What are the first 3 walls tho?

[@grandiloqentc6507]

I didn't lie Spero is worst ep character by far, wouldn't you agree?

[@Prokerboss]

But spero did nothing wrong

[@gabemuldoon120]

She's the best character and why does everyone always say her name wrong it's Sparrow not Spero, we need some more Sper...I mean Sparrow respect.

[@gabemuldoon120]

Oh I didn't realize you were talking about Harvey.

[@kanekipog4225]

@@Prokerboss imagine not knowing nothing smh

[@Creature5757]

0:55 someone call me?

[@mainedPlate]

4:57 uh, no shit

[@H982_FKL]

Why we need to raid control room when we get Rivera out?

[@WhatIsThisG]

Jackdaw on stealh says they will raid the control room soon. so if we go loud even rivera alive, we need to raid control room because TRU will control that place after we leave, so we need to raid it (well TRU is hostile to halcyon, cuz if TRU see halcyon ops instead player, they attack them)

[@H982_FKL]

@@WhatIsThisG Ah

[@nikokat511]

It’s actually pretty funny though

[@dogmation]

I subscribed.

[@breadenjoyer76]

Still bullying Spero?