The Untold Backstory of Mickey Altieri | (& Why he was THE DARKEST Ghostface) Scream 2 Explained

Hey everyone and welcome to today's episode of Beyond The Mask. In today's installment, we're going to be discussing the origins of Scream 2's Mickey and what persuaded Mrs Loomis, aka Debbie Salt, to make contact with him to carry out the murderous campaign she had planned for Sidney Prescott.
0:00 Introduction
0:43 Scream Novelizations Update
1:23 Mickey's Backstory
07:56 Conclusion
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[@BeyondTheMask]

Thank you for the continued support on the Scream Novelizations. Regardless of where they end up, they'll be available to be viewed and read by everyone soon. I'll keep you all updated.

[@PADDYSHORRORCHANNEL]

We need a video of you showing your face dude I feel as if we’re a sort of scream/Ghostface family so it would be great to see who we listen so eagerly too🤟.

[@Screaminizzy]

I know I have been very critical of your work but after hearing the novelization exerpt I’m sold 😂 I’m sorry for being negative

[@AK12king]

I’m excited to read them!!

[@rickidaykin2313]

I really enjoyed your story so far. Love to hear more keep all ur amazing work up. IT'S GOING BE A SCREAM BABY!!!!!!!

[@wakkawakka900]

If you ever need a sub-writer, I'm hell with a hammer.😂

[@NoName-nb5nm]

Mickey already being a killer definitely inspired the Ghostface in 6 being a already and experience killer and Mickey filming his victims definitely inspired Charlie in filming his victims and killing them Mickey a underrated Ghostface.

[@anthonygomez3396]

Nope stu did cause it’s his family

[@husainaboobaker9615]

True But This 1 in 6 Seems to be leagues above in intelligence he has done his homework about every killer they strengths and they weaknesses and what he needs to do to be The most lethal deadliest and most unstoppable Ghostface ever

[@micahbell5572]

@@anthonygomez3396 none of the killers in this franchise so far have been Stu's family

[@jamangel]

Oof

[@jamesonjackson1940]

Ghost face in 6 is technically 5 people. None of which were killers before. The 2 film students killed in the begining and then the brother sister and father or the killer in "5"

[@THANATOS-PRIME]

Mickey has to be my favorite ghost face in the franchise. He’s always just so entertaining to watch and the fact that he’s very manipulative in his own right is really cool

[@patrickdempsy14]

Mickey was definitely the darkest ghostface by far

[@andrewmatthews5278]

Why?

[@lukeknutson3191]

@@andrewmatthews5278 his brute force as ghostface and his motive. His demeanor as well. Very dark killer in the series.

[@JoseReyes-vy4id]

For real! Unlike all the other killers, he wanted to get caught and be infamous for the ghostface copycat murders. He was already a serial killer before Scream 2 so who knows how many victims he already killed.

[@andrewmatthews5278]

@@JoseReyes-vy4id I understand. Thanks for the satisfying answer.

[@Gizmo4726]

Hey bro, you should return in scream 7

[@quietkrys2705]

Mickey had so much potential, I honestly believe more could've been done with him.

[@z1205]

Would have been cool if he survived and actually went to trial like he wanted to. It would/could have mirrored Cotton’s trial in Scream 1.

[@ghonnh20]

Mickey probably has the highest kill count above Roman (9) and Kieran (13) if we consider he was a serial killer before the movie

[@joshmiles7727]

Mickey is so underappreciated it makes me sad, he was and is my number 1 favorite ghostface.

[@Nicholas_Chen_]

This is seriously dark some dark web level stuff. I love how you hinted Mickey enjoys playing mind games with his victims which is exactly what he did with Sidney. And I love how in your version he has killed many people, girls specifically (maybe he has a type) and kept an album, that’s just dark, and really makes Sidney remarkable as she could have been one of them victims he killed and kept in that album, but she survived. I think that’s what Mickey the darkest and scariest Ghostface is that most of the Ghostfaces wear the costume for a purpose while for Mickey he can kill anytime any day he just happened to wear a Ghostface costume for his timespan in Scream 2.

[@IonTheContaminator]

You know what else makes Mickey much scarier than the others? SPOILERS Most of the killers in the franchise including in Scream 6 always have a vendetta against someone or something even if revenge isn't their primary motive. Usually the killers have an angry breakdown and show some weakness due to this. -Billy was vengeful against Sidney's mom. -Stu was vengeful against Casey and Steve. -Mrs. Loomis was vengeful against Sidney. -Roman was jealous and vengeful against Sidney. -Jill was jealous and vengeful against Sidney. -Charlie was jealous and vengeful against Kirby. -Richie was vengeful about Stab. -Amber was vengeful about Stab. -The Baileys were vengeful against Sam and Tara. *Ignoring Jason since he was such a minor killer. However, Mickey was the only Ghostface who had absolutely no grudge, jealousy, or vendetta against anyone or anything. There was nothing causing him pain to the point where he released his aggression through murder. He just simply liked to kill and had fun with hurting others until the end. That's why I think he's the scariest.

[@warrengomez67]

Yep Mickey was crazy as fuck

[@dordonake]

Jill is scarier, Charlie is more disturbing and Wayne is more upsetting. I have my reasons. Also, i have a theory that Mickey had a thing for Sid, but later came back to his murderous self after she started dating with Derek

[@jbatts834]

@@dordonake no one’s more afraid of a little teenage girl then a damn serial killer dude 😂🤦 she had a more cunning plan, but she barely did any of murders it was mostly Charlie, and she planned to never kill again after getting the fame she wanted. She’s probably one of the least scary ghost face’s in the franchise’s history.

[@BmoreCelt]

Jason was minor but you could say he was vengeful against his teacher giving him what he thought was a subpar grade, to keep with the commonality of your list

[@IonTheContaminator]

@@BmoreCelt Lol it's been a while since I saw 6. Was that really his motive? I mean, I guess. He deserved to get killed just for such a dumb motive.

[@cmajor1487]

I’ve always said that Mickey was one of the best ghostfaces. He messed with Sidney’s mind and convinced her that Derek was the other killer. Not to mention he was strong and fast as heck!

[@tonybrittingham237]

The craziest Ghostface killer out of them all. No motive just wanted to kill for the thrill. I hope you get that novelization deal done I’d love to hear more of your backstories of these characters

[@TheAmazingAdam]

I love this. The fact that you now have contact with Paramount, maybe you'd be the reason for a possible Scream Season 4 to be real? Keep it up, man.

[@masterfulwarriorplus5398]

Mickey is the most twisted Ghostface killer and he was very manipulative I laugh he got a little turned on when Sidney was beating him lol and how he didn't know Sidney the one that killed Billy you thought he would do thorough research but anyway Mickey the most twisted Ghostface it's hard to determine which Ghostface the most twisted but I think it's Mickey.

[@anthonyjones3835]

If we getting technical gale killed Billy.... Sidney just finished him off with the headshot with the "one last scare" part which are always over the top

[@lightdarksoul2097]

I always wondered if Mickey ever felt anything for Syd and their friends. Did he feel sorry for any of the deaths or was he as insane as Mrs. Loomis?

[@j2174]

Mrs Loomis was “perfectly sane”. She was just looking for “good, old fashioned revenge”.

[@asteroth1986]

Imo, Mickey was total sociopath so, I don’t think he cared at all, he was very one track minded.

[@lightdarksoul2097]

@@j2174 She was just a caring mother haha

[@DarthPyrusTheVirus]

No, Mickey was purely psychotic. He had no remorse for anyone he killed. He was only after the infamy and outdoing the original spree.

[@j2174]

Mickey was going to be such a different character originally when Hallie and Derek were going to be the killers alongside Mrs Loomis. Mickey was deeply in love with Hallie I think, and the two GF double stab him after he essentially sacrifices himself for Sidney

[@mr.checkyourself4672]

I think Mickey, Stu and Beth are the scariest Ghostface in the franchise as they don't really have motives Mickey wants to get caught but other then that he is a serial killer who just like killing people Mickey probably the most underrated Ghostface in the Scream franchise.

[@Sloppenheimer776]

his acting after his reveal is amazing too, one of my favorite lines was his over exaggeration of the "Billy's mother" line

[@Michael-cz6ob]

@@Sloppenheimer776 I love his mental tormenting of Sid when he's trying to convince Sid that Derick is his partner.. Boyfriend? Killer? Boyfriend? Killer?.. just epic stuff, so original. Another reason Scream 2 is my personal favourite in the franchise.. just the originality. Its never easy making a good slasher sequel but the storytelling, character development, set pieces, score, score themes for characters.. just so beautifully done

[@Sloppenheimer776]

@@Michael-cz6ob that's my 2nd favorite line of his, just the mental manipulation is executed so well

[@meanz6287]

And Mickey was very manipulative playing with Sidney mind.

[@juliancain3872]

Beth? Or were you trying to say Billy?

[@jamesparks3967]

I love this guys writing. Anyone else find it seriously engaging?

[@megcollier3588]

Congratulations on the novelizations. I’ve been waiting for further updates for a while, so I’m glad you’ve had your response from paramount

[@johnmcnamara8741]

He was the least developed and under written of The Ghostface’s. Olyphant really nailed it though. His impact isn’t talked about enough though.

[@jadegunner9234]

YES so Paramount have literally acknowledged BTM's talents and could be giving him creative freedom to write publish the novels? This is huge

[@Cadillac19]

You remind me of Mickey when you said "This is huge"

[@wesstewart2677]

Theoretically since he was already a killer prior to donning the GF costume. He could have the highest body count of any other Ghostface

[@DarthPyrusTheVirus]

He's either tied or has more than Roman in my book. You need at least 3 to qualify as a serial killer, and he wrangled up 7 in Scream 2 (Phil, Maureen, Cici, two detectives, Hallie, Derek), putting him one above Roman.

[@wesstewart2677]

@@DarthPyrusTheVirus dang I always assumed Cici’s death was Mrs. Loomis since Mickey was at the party with everyone else and had convos with Randy and Hallie. I may need to rewatch Scream 2 then it’s been a while.

[@wesstewart2677]

@@DarthPyrusTheVirus it’s crazy to think about but Mickey may have like double digits murder count. Considering he was on a serial killer chat site

[@DarthPyrusTheVirus]

@@wesstewart2677 I always thought he was at the party and slipped away, but I've heard people say it's actually implied he didn't arrive until after Cici's death by how he's moving and talking right at the start.

[@wesstewart2677]

@@DarthPyrusTheVirus ohhh see that actually makes a lot of sense.

[@DarthPyrusTheVirus]

Agreed with everything in this video. Can't wait to read that novelization and see Mickey's background fleshed out. And who knows, maybe Paramount could incorporate that lore someday and make it canon.

[@ethandoyle4978]

Dang this puts a whole new look on Mickey . Also congrats on the novelizations it’s amazing that you were able to receive permission from paramount. I read an fanfiction novelization of the first scream film and it was amazing

[@davidwalker3198]

This was indeed extremely dark. I dare ask where you got the information regarding the serial killer website? Never the less, this gave me chills.

[@mysticmonk5037]

Mrs loomis says it in the final act

[@DarthPyrusTheVirus]

That's how Mrs Loomis found him.

[@shannonrey330]

This was so amazing to hear. I always thought Mickey was funny in Scream 2. But there were little moments to me that he had to be one of GhostFace Killers. Hearing this untold dark Mickey story was really interesting. Also good luck on your Novel as well. Cannot wait to hear more for this.

[@artsy7853]

This was a great backstory for Mickey! Will you cover soon how do you think Jill convinced Charlie to help her in her spree later?

[@Liberal_From_Prairies689]

BJs probably.

[@Liberal_From_Prairies689]

🌬️ 🍆.

[@omarxperez]

i think he was just a major simp and loved horror movies so much he was willing to make a remake version of the og killings. plus i think he was also down for being famous but more so just a simp for any girl that would show interest in him

[@artsy7853]

@@omarxperez yeah, I also think it like that but I wanna see if Beyond the Mask will add more to it on his take.

[@husainaboobaker9615]

She convinced him with sexual favours

[@GothamsAnswer]

I made a video on this subject a few days ago , awesome video man , Mickey is the master manipulator and the sick part is he enjoyed being friends with Sid , Randy and Derek before

[@torryehouse5777]

These novelizations have been great. Can’t wait to hear more. I think it would be cool if you novelized the trial the year before the Woodsboro murders as well. I’ve always wondered why Gale thought Cotton was innocent when nobody else did.

[@ericmoderni7164]

I really enjoy your novelisation so far!! Good work

[@amp2375]

Very introductory. I didn't think much of the 'Rina Reynolds aka Maureen Prescott' story until now. I had to listen to this 4 times it was like watching a movie. Went back to the 'Maureen Prescott' scene & it's awesome stuff. I'm sold now. I've WhatsApp'd this to my pals it's soo good. Would love to hear the conversation between Billy & Roman. In the scream 5 novelization Amber & Richie made their twisted plains while doing it in Sam's own bed. Also how Billy got the voice box into the police station to call Sid. Soooo many possible rabbit holes to go down with this.

[@mjfadeaway22]

Is it really impossible that stu called Sidney and not billy ?

[@amp2375]

@MJFADEAWAY22 Billy set it up so it'd freak Sid TF out. It was Billy using his 1 phone call I feel but i 100% see where your coming from. Could've also been Roman!

[@Mauro_mmi]

I'm so proud of you! I wish you the best and i hope Paramount allows you publish the novel!

[@theonlygosha]

Was literally thinking about the ghostface killers today and this popped up! Wonderful video ❤

[@nu-metalfan2654]

You can clearly tell that the OJ Simpson case was the inspiration for Mickey’s motive.

[@stevezac_cptlpnshmnt]

DUUUUDE!!! Congrats on the novels! I will DEF be buying!

[@r.i.c.k.y-official]

Hey bro my name is Rylie, I’m also a big scream fan. It is my dream to make a scream tv show/series about the first movie, possibly called “origins of ghostface” which is the story about billy and Stu and how they become phsyicopathic killers, with my ideas for the show and with the help of your mindset I believe we can accomplish something amazing, and give all the scream fans the real thrill they always seeked.

[@StarshineGoomba]

The mention of a "serial killer" website gave very dark web vibes, long before at least I knew that the dark web was even a thing. A situation like this can actually be an in universe reason as to why the dark web needs to exist because the government began taking things seriously and began to monitor the regular internet.

[@leamason9006]

Wow HUGE congratulations on the novels

[@sandragoth8293]

I love your news video, but this is the content I subbed for

[@MrJ1Horrordirector]

My brother you actually did It omg Man you have no idea how warm my heart Is for this. Im one in a trillion but It means alot that you actually Did what you promised me in a comment a couple months ago i Guess or last month i dont remember. It means alot ❤️🤘 sometimes someones day turns perfect when someone next to you or around the world actually listens. My respect💪 cheers desde Puerto Rico mi hermano!!!!

[@richardantonio2894]

Awesome! Good job! I always thought Mickey was the most dangerous killer. He’s the one who put Sidney into hiding. He’s the only killer who was a serial killer before the events of the film.

[@alienator4684]

I mean…he didn’t really cause Sidney to go into hiding. She did that because she was likely tired of getting hunted by all the Ghostface killers up until that point.

[@heyitzmandz7741]

You’re so insanely talented!

[@strangerthingsfan8444]

Congratulations, i m really happy for you , i love your novels ❤

[@urbanspaceman1]

Fantastic news that you're novelising the series, I can't wait to read it!!

[@bencearva8068]

Well, I don't know if you noticed, but when Mrs. Loomis shot Mickey dead, Gale worriedly tried to run to him, but Mickey was shot by a completely innocent woman who doesn't even know him at all, why should he start to worry after a serial killer? I thought maybe mickey and gale were secret relatives? only mickey doesn't know rola?

[@alexandergordon3432]

I really enjoyed your piece on Mickey's backstory and how Mrs. Loomis recruited him for her quest of vengeance against Sydney. It was really fascinating how Mickey had killed before and discovered her on a serial killer website whhere he was gloating about his murders and discussing them with other psychopaths. Nowadays you'd only find something like that in the darkest corners of the dark web. Well done 👍.

[@LetsSCREAMTV]

This is REALLY f***ing good!. Need more!

[@SuperFartknockers]

YESSS TY I BRING THIS UP ALL THE TIME AND NOBODY EVER TALKS AB ITTTTT

[@kaseybones]

Great writing. Love that it fills in the blanks from in between scream 1 and 2

[@azedk418]

I hope paramount likes your novelisations! You’re a great writer! 🙌

[@AnitaNewport]

I can't wait to read this!

[@KingOvDeception849]

I can’t wait to read these novelizations they sound amazing.

[@Therealissa98]

I can't wait to read your novelizations

[@shamon85]

amazing writing and deeply engaging i want more

[@hippyheartlove]

Omg! How exciting about your books!!!!

[@tejalxndr]

This was sooooooo good

[@husainaboobaker9615]

Besides already been a serial Killer Before been recruited by Mrs Loomis to be Ghosface Mickey Was Also The The Most Durable Ghostface He ate a Dozen Bullets and still came Back for One Last Scare

[@gamleskalle1]

He liked Tarantino and Cameron movies so he had good taste in movies. Those who preferred Ridley Scott ended up dead/murdered Look at the successes of Tarantino and Cameron since 1997.

[@daviddorsey5507]

The backstory is excellent, it reminds me of Giallo films and even true crime documentaries

[@fynnthefox9078]

Originally, when I saw Scream 2 I didn't care much for Mickey, since he was pretty obvious and I thought his motive was kinda weak. But... Goddamn! He's going up my Ghostface killer tier!

[@stevenecarrier]

Hopefully Paramount doesn’t hit you with a cease and desist after all your hard work, good luck mate! Really hope we get to read them!

[@charmedtommo8995]

I really hope you’re approved to release these books. I’d buy them!

[@j2174]

Mickey was so different in the script where he was not Ghostface.

[@dano_the_collector8421]

I will definitely buy your novel. You got me hooked

[@AH-is5yg]

The ironic think about Mickey. He wanted to be remembered and get immortalize; however, he was only remembered as another copy-cat killer and everyone rarely talks about Mickey. Getting shot by Mrs. Loomis really hurt Mickey and realized he got played. Mrs. Loomis betrayed him and shot him. Deep down, Mickey was hurt by the betrayal and seeing he'll never get his trial and be famous. He was more hurt of the betrayal then getting shot. He wanted to kill Sydney and the others one last time, but only to be killed for good.

[@ImVxpour]

I hope everything regarding the novelizations goes well and in your favour. Will you be doing an audiobook version?

[@mattevans58]

Good luck with the novels. I will definitely be purchasing them.

[@ghonnh20]

This is just amazing! Where can I have that book?

[@tetsuyohasakirashishiwakam2218]

Scream 2 has a special place in my heart simply because it takes place in Ohio and I'm from Ohio. Which for me made Scream 2 even more terrifying.

[@pjhunt4135]

Mickey was always my favorite ghostface

[@JonjoLyonsReviews]

I've always loved Mickey. Maybe my 2nd fav after Stu? Looking forward to the novels mate.

[@someonexsomewhere]

I cannot wait to read this book! I would like a physical copy!

[@d___c____5604]

Where is the full version of this? I would love to listen to it at work?

[@jamangel]

Mickey already being a killer makes him so much scarier I love him

[@burning_stakes]

Guys, this is just me spinning a theory here. This is one I've considered since Scream 5 came out, and now since I've seen Scream 6, I'm seriously thinking I might be right. Wayne Bailey (Richie's father) looks a lot like Timothy Olyphant (Mickey Alteri) in my opinion, and I think that Richie's motivation for becoming a Ghostface was much deeper than what was revealed. It's just a thought, but if you guys think I could be onto something, comment please. I'd like to hear if you guys have ideas. Also, who else is hoping Stu Macher comes back for Scream 7?

[@benjaminhutchison4955]

cant wait for the full book to come out

[@exhz]

i cant wait for all these novelisations to be out

[@icaliver]

It funny cause I figured he did kill before but steal the identity of Debbie Salt for Mrs. Loomis. Kind like “The Following” where Joe killed his half brother to escape.

[@ayascamdzic3827]

Honestly,for me Jill is the darkest ghostface and the most evil one,Mickey right behind her

[@jamespope7669]

Honestly Jill was predictable and only wanting fans 😂 was lame.

[@ayascamdzic3827]

@@jamespope7669 loml are you even on the internet as all people properly are?She has a huge fanbase that thinks she's the best and her motive is the best and most modern too. Your opinion is insignificant at this point to most of the scream fandom or people who watched scream 4 and liked her.

[@jamespope7669]

@@ayascamdzic3827 your opinion isn't valid. Jill was the most predictable and her motive was the lamest, even more than scream 6.

[@ayascamdzic3827]

@@jamespope7669 lmfao everyone's opinion is valid,you're just hurt because people love her.

[@ayascamdzic3827]

@@jamespope7669 and I've seen other comments you made,you should sit down honestly, all you do is complain about the new movies. Move on or leave the fandom.

[@amazingmexican12]

When it comes to reading I very much prefer a physical copy of the book, by any chance is that a possibility or is it off the table?

[@iamsoborrred]

Mickey is my favorite Ghostface!!!!! 🔪 ❤

[@JoseReyes-vy4id]

Same! Timothy Olyphant nailed that role!

[@yilakhailemariam8842]

Chills.

[@BluPicasso]

Hey has the scream 2 novel came out yet

[@chandaramony2939]

hes got his scary looks after unmask hes the only killer that speak with his original voice with the ghotface outfit. hes looks like a mix of Jamie Dornan and Paul Walker

[@LukeDodge916]

Im utterly in, as well. Cant wait to read them. But I dont use Amazon. Either way, I'll figure it. Good luck.

[@BeyondTheMask]

I'll find a way for you. Thank you so much!!

[@LukeDodge916]

@@BeyondTheMask thank you, when can we expect to read it?

[@myers.twixtor]

If your novel releases for purchase online I'm buying tf outta of it

[@Dellen-Roger]

Mickey was my favourite. He was so funny and layed back.

[@Afro1Pigeon]

I know we still have scream 6 but I think in the 7th film. Mark Kincaid will be the opening kill. Each trilogy in the final movie would have a minor recurring character killed. Just like cotten weary. Cotton was mention/briefly appeared in scream 1 then was in scream 2 and then died in 3. Kincaid was in scream 3, Mentioned in scream 5 and you guessed it will die in scream 7. I just think it would make alot of narrative and symbolic sense

[@infantkiller64]

No, just no. Sidney already is married to him, just let her have the happy ending she deserves.

[@Cadillac19]

I think and hope Kirby will die. She's a hero, but I feel it, Kirby is dying

[@dano_the_collector8421]

Can you do us a favor. Don’t forget us we all really appreciate what you do & who you are👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 (standing ovation)

[@dylanrogers6343]

I would buy the novel if/when they are available

[@christian585]

“The boy BEGAN…”

[@tommyboy1675]

Love your videos, I was wondering if you have a theory on why Billy Loomis didn’t murder his father for having an affair with Maureen Prescott?

[@jamespope7669]

Maureen broke the Loomis marriage up and Mrs Loomis moved out and abandoned Billy. If you want to blame someone, why don't you blame Maureen.

[@tommyboy1675]

@@jamespope7669 I agree Maureen was culpable, but so was Hank. It took two to tango.

[@johnny1902]

I wish you would release a paperback copy I don't read books on the phone.

[@BeyondTheMask]

I will look into this for you. I promise!!

[@robtheberge1928]

Please let us know when those books are published!

[@Cadillac19]

It all makes sense now why Mickey was so casual entering the party late right after he dropped and killed Casey

[@sujitraj4711]

Casey not cici

[@Cadillac19]

@@sujitraj4711 Her real name is Casey Cooper.

[@sujitraj4711]

Bro you give comment after 9 months

[@Cadillac19]

@@sujitraj4711 Yeah man you commented 4 days ago.

[@sujitraj4711]

Oo ok

[@grudgematch6653]

Mickey is the darkest killer but he’s not my favorite. That title will always go to Stu Macher

[@user-qv9vl2mi6y]

Yeah but Roman killed Maurine before he became ghostface and he also inspired the entire chain of events that to me is the scariest but I liked your opinion and point of view on it

[@infantkiller64]

He didn't killed her himself, he ordered two teenage boys to do the job for him. Which is Billy and Stu.

[@Cadillac19]

@@infantkiller64 *Which were

[@themanwithredglasses6206]

"I'm gonna blame the movies, pretty cool huh ?? It hasn't been done before"

[@codywoof7059]

You see I think Stu had already killed someone or something as kids when he was with billy and that’s how billy knew Stu had a list to kill and would do the majority of the killings

[@patekbae6157]

Kieren is my fav scream killer but mickey is up their aswell as mrs loomis

[@robinho6544]

WE NEED SCREAM NOVELS FROM YOU

[@daboiielcamo]

I was today years old that i found out everybody favorite spider man tobey Maguire almost played mickey in scream 2 im so glad that didnt happen 😂