The Untold History of NATO and Case for Its Abolition

NATO, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, is moving ever closer to Russia’s border. Russia views this as an existential threat - and a historic betrayal of key guarantees it was given by the west as the Soviet Union disintegrated. As Biden sends thousands of additional troops to Eastern Europe, the threat of war is growing by the day.
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[@Magar0monk]

Unless american empire falls we cannot live in peace

[@SimonAshworthWood]

Let’s make it fall peacefully.

[@guiller2371]

US, meaning the American people is actually a victim of this manipulated by top politicians. This is why many were willing to vote for Trump. I am not pro trump, but international policies are not seeking for American best interests.

[@racistyoutube2244]

Exactly

[@a.esquivel2434]

Completely agree

[@racistyoutube2244]

Exactly, they've done enough damages to the universe

[@37Dionysos]

OK, let's just play it fair---put lots of Russian weapons and troops on the Canadian and Mexican borders with the U.S. I'm sure America will be fine with that.

[@torontoontario8387]

US cant even stand for Cuba to get food or oil shipped from other countries let alone weapons

[@Duck-wc9de]

well, but neither canada nor Mexico voted for having pro russia governements. Estonians want american influence in their country. those people dont want to be in russian influence, who are you to decide that they should or shouldnt be? why Talin's foreigh policy must be determined by Moscow?

[@jeanabid6220]

us will be hysterical,

[@ahmedjartu1131]

Simple

[@jasminbesic7266]

@@Duck-wc9de Well, Crimea, Donjetsk and Lugantzk have voted for russian government. And latter two, got shelling and bombing from Neo nazi paramilitary battalions for 8 years. Just look at USA goverment coup list, wars, and treachery.

[@newfad2008]

I wish such discussions and information, go on mainstream media, in the US and all Western NATO countries. People would not join any military, and vote all war mongers out of Governments. PEACE.

[@hajicamara5755]

Thank you for this excellent

[@audrey-experience]

That is why we should share information like this as much as possible

[@fonokono4814]

Flush them all out

[@leol8482]

You guys are amazing, standing for the truth despite everything ❤ God bless you all. Its refreshing to hear this side of the story from Americans

[@debralegorreta1375]

NATO, Northern Aggression Treaty Organization

[@SH-gg8ys]

Great abbreviation, last 2 decades NATO been destabilizing the world peace, NATO killed 2 million people and made another several million refugee .

[@platosbeard4449]

North Atlantic Terrorists Organization

[@acerrome9672]

@@platosbeard4449 and North American Terrorist Organization.

[@pokemongifs937]

NATO. North American. Terrorist Organisation

[@steventan2550]

Maybe North Atlantic Terrorist Organization will be better.

[@stephensure7129]

Finally theres a talk show based on truth!! You guys are amazing!!! Keep going guys. More shows like this should be aired!!🙋🏻‍♂️🙋🏻‍♂️

[@tomt55]

Thank you so much for providing these programs! Highly informative and a completely different and critical viewpoint than western capitalist media.

[@geoeconomics5629]

UK USA created NATO pact in 1949 Main mission of NATO pact is to keep Germany separated from Russia

[@1homelander179]

Just go to NASA in the 50s, yell "Heil H*tler" and half the guys their will salute to you.

[@SeptoContrarian]

Are you kidding. The OSS in WWII morphed into the CIA. After the war, 2/3 of the CIA were ex-Nazis since they were the beset Russian spies.

[@ripsirwin1]

As socialists, our #1 responsibility is to oppose imperialism and help our class see through the lies!

[@WorldGovernmentGeoInstitut]

@V3LOCT You need to embrace Imperialism then.

[@FayeDragon]

@V3LOCT that communism has very outdated definition and doesn't apply to modern socialism that has absorbed some aspects of capitalism. You can still be rich in China, own private properties, cars, live in luxury, but due to the nature of tax in China you will never be stupidly rich that your money won't run out for 7 generations to the point your great grandson doesn't need to work at all. People like Bill Gates and Elon Musk shouldn't exist in modern world anyway, in a capitalist country, those "capital" itself become the highest commodity and can even be used to bypass law. People like Bill Gates probably bribed tax officers so he could pay only 50% of what he supposed to pay, pay the other 10% to the tax officer and donate other 10% in "charity" and be hailed as a saint by media while making a total profit 30% not including his other unaccounted assets in tax haven. While in socialist country, these money would go straight to public welfare, building public facility and better healthcare system for the working class without the pretext of "charity". Capitalism is a dying system and China has shown us the system that works to bring prosperity to the masses.

[@ronnysmobilephone]

According to these two Stalinists socialism also means not to have a revolution.

[@WorldGovernmentGeoInstitut]

@@ronnysmobilephone "Stalinists"?

[@hazelwray4184]

@V3LOCT What has the post - Cold War, 'Project for the New American Century' got to do with fighting Communism?

[@willemdebatavier7485]

Not being a socialist, I must admit that you described the situation accurately. NATO should have been eliminated when the soviet union collapsed and the Warsaw pact no longer existed either.

[@hollonitoachishi5877]

110% true

[@bennettweiss8644]

NATO never should never have been formed in the first place.

[@LilFaerl]

Says totalitarian dictatorships of moronic assholes. NATO is not just an alliance against Russia, but against all totalitarian shithole countries.

[@krod6535]

If you are a worker you should be. It is in your interest to be, maybe read up some marxist books

[@zvbx]

or at the very least the United States should at that point left NATO

[@richardmayger2716]

It is time to have a clear policy to contain the USA

[@platosbeard4449]

This is a global priority. Thanks for saying it out loud.

[@HxH2011DRA]

Faxs

[@lengthao8424]

Agree!!!!!

[@snagfalarski109]

we need to understand the occupier's of Palestine lobby groups control United States of israhell

[@englanduk6131]

@richard mayger.... Russia totally fears nobody except the USA and without them how far west would Russian troops be right now?

[@happyjonkers8711]

Correction.... the US did not win the Second World War.....that was Russia with a little help from US and Brittain...NZ

[@deanrao4805]

Yes. Probably should have left it at "the US came out on the winning side".

[@serasichongchinliong3450]

In Asia, China pinned down 70% Imperial Japan Army and took 20 million casualties.

[@debralegorreta1375]

More Russians than Jews died in WWII

[@crtordoes]

Very true. Japan thought it was easy to overrun China and instead the Imperial Japanese Army was bogged down in China. The American won the war by dropping two atomic bombs. US participated in the war when Germany was fighting on both fronts.

[@kitdesilva]

The allies fought 25 divisions of the german army .. while USSR fought & defeated 180+ divisions. Hollywood says US won the war. And communists in china fought the japanese on the other side.

[@bp455]

Thank you very much for telling the truth about Yugoslavia. Milosevic gave the US Secretary of State Warren Christofer a piece of paper and asked him to write down what Serbia should do to get the US support. Christofer said: you have to support the US unconditionally. Serbia couldn't do it. Thousands of people were killed by NATO, and the NATO spokespeople called that "collateral damage".

[@SeptoContrarian]

NATO basically wanted complete surrender and occupation or get bombed. Then the infrastructure that was owned by the people would have to be rebuilt with outside funds and be foreign owned. Privatization done by war.

[@erstebinger9587]

"Collateral damage" is euphemistic genocide.

[@Shakazaramesh]

I'm very proud of my country for being involved in that, NATO stopped a genocide. Completely the right decision.

[@SeptoContrarian]

@@Shakazaramesh NATO drove out the Serbs who lived there and did what they accused the Serbs of doing. They ethnically cleansed Kosovo of 200,000 Serbs who lived there and allowed the Kosovo Albanians to destroy 12tg century orthodox churches to erase the ancient Serbian culture in Kosovo. They have endorsed moving borders and recognized Kosovo as a sovereign country but won’t allow that in the Donbas. Hypocrisy. The genocide happened AFTER NATO started bombing.

[@Shakazaramesh]

@@SeptoContrarian Right, Serbs never did anything wrong. I bet you think Srebrenica was fake too. The Germans have faced up to their genocidal past, the Serbs should do the same thing.

[@drzaanko4255]

This changed my perspecive on the current situation. Thank you for this. Very objective and informative.

[@gulliegulliver4546]

What an excellent, informative breakdown of Nato and the nefarious imperialists in the West. I am well informed but I learned a lot of, previously unknown to me, history from this show. Thank you so much.

[@mohammadyasirmohmand8730]

Superb!

[@williamfrancis5367]

Strange how they release around the same time Putin threatens Ukrainian sovereignty...

[@rockcvn71]

Can't believe owners let this roll out!🙂

[@melvinvines2238]

It goes way back even before there was a USA. Ukraine, was the land were the Khazars aka Jewish people was an Empire, which Russia broke with the help of Black Muslims and Israelites.

[@davidsalcido383]

@@bushman1492 “Better to TRUST Papa Vladimir Putin than KGB PhD Qualified (Trump University) scholar!” 👨‍🎓

[@lamdawave]

We all forgot the 1962 Cuban missile crisis, during which USA reacted vehemently. Luckily Russia backed down and the world narrowly averted a third nuclear world war! The motto should be don't do to others what we do not want done unto us.

[@SeptoContrarian]

That's American exceptionalism for you. We can do it. You can't. Like a cheating husband who beats his wife if she looks at another woman.

[@SeptoContrarian]

I meant man--ha ha

[@letranger6750]

Sorry Mr. Becker, you said an error: The Soviets won WW3, not us! 80% of German troops were wiped out by the Soviets at a cost of over 26 mill. lives: I"ll grant you that us helped with supplies, but it was Soviet Blood that defeated the Germans

[@LightCrasher]

So far we only had two world wars yet. I hope it stays this way)

[@zeeone4492]

WW2

[@trueconde5623]

Damn I must have been asleep when WW3 went down

[@georgecolon2786]

@@trueconde5623 , come'on dude , It's obviously a mistake, Don't make a federal case out of nothing , everybody knows it's ww2 .. moving on

[@snagfalarski109]

@@georgecolon2786 I live in a fairly remote area in Canada and we are extremely heavily censored, so its entirely possible he is talking ww3 and not a mistake, I will wait for verification from him, and if I see youtube remove his post I will know its true

[@thomasscheck6575]

Love and support from Florida, USA. Thank you for the education!

[@neckozeusa]

Great show. I'm from former Yougoslavia and was vitnes of it's destruction by USA and NATO. It firsy started by stragling us with economic sanctions trough very expensive loans . They were using IMF and World bank. Once we took loans, they played their cards with increasing interest rates. Our outside debt was around $9 billion...and Bush decline to extend our acces to new loans declaring us non solvent country. Todays countries made from Yougoslavias parts are more then $ 500 billions in debt and still have access to loans.New way to colonise some countries.

[@meurigdavies8080]

Putin payed off the IMF recently.

[@ewalker1057]

Well said

[@ewalker1057]

@@meurigdavies8080 Yes he did. Dedollarized Russia assets. Has a surplus raining day fund. Why the US is trying to goat Russia into war. Why Biden wants to shutdown Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

[@sociosociosociosocio182]

It is called economic terrorism. The same tactics used to disfranchised our non white citizens. It's a death sentence.

[@sociosociosociosocio182]

The same thing that they blamed the Chinese for doing.

[@pukahuroad3967]

I cannot thank you both enough for your comprehensive and knowledgeable commentary on this subject. You are both outstanding communicators of the truth and facts. Bravo BTN. Free Julian Assange.

[@randallmcfry3529]

Commentor is a Russian vassal.

[@hove785]

Thank God for these 2 Americans for daring speaking the truth! Congrats to both of them for detailing everything we knew and felt but couldn't express it as well as you both did!!

[@viengvanhsouthideth300]

I wish the whole world listen to your voices!

[@viengvanhsouthideth300]

You 100% right, thank you for your comments!

[@rolandvondermuhll6446]

You guys really understand Russian history and their legitimate concerns about invasion from the west. Thank you.

[@rttrttyan]

Russia is literally invading Ukraine.

[@chiztruth21]

@@rttrttyan just the way the US and its allies invaded Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan and Syria.

[@rttrttyan]

@@chiztruth21 Sources that said NATO did that, and not the US on it’s own?

[@sunboy1558]

@@rttrttyan and sources will continue to tell you lies all your life The US will suffer karma for the Atrocities all around the world Wait for it soon.

[@rttrttyan]

@@sunboy1558 as long as Russia suffers karma for its atrocities as well.

[@Internetbutthurt]

Respect for actually being true to socialist anti-war principles. I spent 20 years in a Leftist party which was supposedly democratic socialist but in my branch at the time i left, even those in the Far Left faction were rabid pro-US imperialism and anti-Russian, it was incredible. Surprised you didnt mention that both Britain and the US assessed possible attacks on the USSR even before WW2 ended, the Brits called theirs Operation Unthinkable, the US planned to bomb 47 Soviet cities with atomic weapons. British and Americans were horrified by this and alerted the Soviets. The US and Britain started the Cold War.

[@thisiskevin1000]

Like the US tried with China during the Korean War (1950-1953) under Gen. Douglas McArthur, but later on fired by Harry Truman.

[@Jiidwag]

America = RACISM + GREED + SLAVERY + GENOCIDE + STEALING + CONTROLLING PEOPLE = THE REAL COMMUNIST OF THE WORLD

[@peterherard8207]

@@Jiidwag so COUNTRIES THAT KILL THEIR OWN CITIZENS, GIVE NO FREEDOM ARE BETTER ?!?? THATS INSANE

[@sansousismith1474]

'Operation Dropshot' How the US was prepared to annihilate the USSR with NUKES

[@alexmackie665]

BS!

[@rosabull4662]

I am from Liberia a peaceful nation destroyed by a similar ideology. Our greatest Leaders were killed to prevent our FREEDOM. Thanks for the truth; the truth shall always set you free.

[@steffenopenheimer3601]

Putin asked to join both NATO and EU but he was refused by both......same hapend in 1954 after Stalin death

[@Sun-zr2ep]

He was refused because NATO'S agenda is to corner russia.

[@BryanWong]

Create chaos ,then profit from the chaos.Thats America

[@boristabareag3598]

This is the sixth time I watch this great discussion: I´m taking notes from it for an essay someday I will finish: "NATO: war and fear is our business"

[@g.m.8360]

This is one of the most educational lecture I’ve heard so far filled in lots of blank spots and the bottom line still ended up at the same conclusion without some of the unsure guilt thanks.

[@ayeguyy779]

Great discussion by hosts that have a deep historical material knowledge and analysis.

[@ananamusly]

Hands down one of the best channels on YT thank you

[@deanrao4805]

I lived through most of these events. But I'd forgotten (or I naively didn't even realize at the time) how sordid are "our" ( i.e. USA) motives.

[@thulomanchay]

The US just want to destroy competition, any competition. Russia, China, South Korea, Japan, India, and even Iran can out perform the United States of America in terms of economic power.. The problem countries are Russia, China and Iran, the rest have been curtailed. Iran is being choked. So its Russia and China.

[@nathan9901]

@@thulomanchay what are you on about bro? South Korea and Japan are basically fucking puppet states let's be honest. Idk where you're getting this from?

[@thulomanchay]

@@nathan9901 Said Russia, China and Iran are the problem countries, " *the rest have been curtailed* ". That means South Korea, Japan, India has been curtailed. Japan was going to lead in car manufacturing, out doing the US motor industries. They castrated Toshiba, and got Japan to play second fiddle to them. Yea, South Korea better play the puppet, or the US would withdraw their troops from the DMZ. Hey, all these can be know from the internet, if only you bothered to look. Don't rely too much on the western media.

[@nathan9901]

@@thulomanchay I just didn't know what curtailed meant. And now that I do, I'm even more confused. Wym south Korea better play the puppet? south Korea IS a puppet. Maybe not officially but they deffo are a puppet. I don't know what that last sentence even means. This is western media, ALL OF IT is western media. How have south Korea Japan And India been curtailed? Their economies are thriving.

[@thulomanchay]

@@nathan9901 South Korea, Japan, India, Germany, are all thriving economies, but at less than their full potential. US is preventing Germany from getting natural energy from Russia. That gas supply is necessary for Germany economy to thrive, the US doesn't want that. They give the excuse that Russia is the enemy. Iran is a very powerful nation. Their people are super industrious, and they easily could be a superpower in the Middle East. The United States sanctioned them till they are heavily burdened, still they are standing tall. Without the sanctions, they would be a power to recon with. That's what the US did, retard them. Nuclear threat is just an excuse. They are doing the same to China. Huawei a national security risk is just a ploy. South Korea, Japan, India could move ahead of the US but they must remain behind them. Japan can be the leader of the world's automobile industry, if that happens, the US motor industry will collapse. The US will not allow that. Japan must slow down and be behind the US or there will be consequences. South Korea's industries must not be too successful, or the US will step in. So Samsung cannot go all out to be innovative. Look at what the US did to Taiwan's semiconductor world leadership, they demand Taiwan hand it over to them, and Taiwan did. ●The US stole Hawaii from the islanders by military force. ●The US hijacked France's Alstom for their own GE Company. ●They sued the shirts of the back of Hitachi for dealing with Russia, but left European companies go scot free. ●The accuse China Huawei of spying, when they have been doing that for first decades. Hey, you got to know what going on in the world, man. That's only on the economic part. I haven't started on the so called US championing of "democracy" around the world. You are right about "This is western media, ALL OF IT is western media." You have been told lies repeatedly, and have facts hidden from you. Google those points I gave you and see both sides of the story.

[@favvids3779]

This is an excellent discussion!

[@robertseaborne5758]

Thanks for another pertinent and valuable political lesson making a strong case for the abolition of NATO, especially significant now that Europe is experiencing yet another NATO provoked war..

[@alexmackie665]

NATO provoked war !get facts right and keep off the elephant juice.Abolish nato gives madman Putin reasin to move in! Instead he is now destined for the scrap heap just like other tyrants! Starlin - Hitler Assad now Little man Putin.All the same mentalities and draconian old world thinking.

[@robertseaborne5758]

@@alexmackie665 best you keep off this channel, its apparently driving you nuts..

[@wkcs007]

@@robertseaborne5758 not just apparently, but literally...

[@texajp1946]

this has become one of my favorite channels and shows, keep up the great work guys\ excellent history lesson

[@homapirzadeh3930]

Thank you for all these valuable information!!🙏👏👏👏 It shows, unfortunately, how misinformed we have been!! Great work! Bravo 👏👏👏🙌

[@desert.mantis]

Thanks for the excellent story of NATO. Funny how the history books omit it.

[@alanjones8810]

America didn't win WW2, Soviets did.

[@Duck-wc9de]

america also didnt won the battle of Aljubarrota. Portugal and britan did.

[@liengamier3290]

No the Nederland win ww2

[@benikramer5115]

The US should amassing their troops within their country too… immediately and forever., and give back Diego Garcia etc. to its native population and clean up their toxic mess before leave.

[@lars277]

After WW1, we immediately cut back on weapons production and the size of our military. After WW2, this did not happen. The machinery for war production in large part stayed in place. The Militarized Industrial Complex began to get power right after WW2. These war profiteers really had more power than any other part of our economy. The New Deal laws regulated our economy sectors except the war machine. After Korea, the cold war was on. Billions were spent on new weapons, planes, ships etc. We really started to arm ourselves to the teeth after Korea. You have to remember, our military was run by the war lords of WW2. You look at the pressure that Curis Lemay put on Kennedy during the missile crisis. Lemay kept telling JFK he could bomb Cuba out of existence in a few days. Look at what MacArthur did and how he got fired. All of the people who ran our military were WW2 war hawks. These generals were bolstered up even further by the war machinery, the MIC. They say that we had so many ships waiting at the Okinawa invasion, you could have walked from Okinawa to HI just walking from ship to ship. We were by far the strongest military on earth after WW2 and still are to this day. The Cold War was fear and war mongering, done mostly by the MIC. I remember hearing things when I was in the Army in Germany in 1975 and 1976. One thing that was going around, and this came right from our Army leadership is that the hundreds of thousands of troops and tanks we had in West Germany and Europe would only slow the Russian attackers by two weeks. We were told that Russian had thousands of tanks and a million man infantry, that all we could do if they attacked is just slow their advance westward for two weeks. That was such a huge croak of crap. That was not true. All I remember hearing when I was in Germany in the Army is the Soviets equipment is better than ours and they have more of it. That is so untrue. Soviet equipment was notoriously inferior to ours, and still is. Our imperialistic genocide on the rest of the world is so painfully obvious now. Once you understand some real facts and truth, the facade of our indoctrination and proliferation of their propaganda is meaningless.

[@learnerarshi2949]

.In WW the maximum number of humans died in records (many unknown) wr from soil of Russia the greed devil in them corrupting their Soul/Heart ✨ used their(warmongers) instrument of body to use the lives of millions humans soldiers as they have been killed or sacrificed their lives in the name of duty, on the other side in Hitler's side the appointed greed 😈 worked on corrupting hearts of few handful in a way like bin salman doing these days against yemeni children but their it worked for starving soldiers of hitler side after that work of devil's blow in nostrils work on corrupting hitler's 🧠 & he failed in test ( .may Allah guide every ruler of nation in a way that never such brutal 🧠s hearts born in present n future of earth life in human n jinn species. Amen ) as he tortured brutally innocents jews instead investigation n punishing according to justice system to those wrongdoers only. .May ✨✨✨✨🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟countries' 🤴🤴🤴🤴🤴👸👸🤴🤯🤯🤯s in a way that ✨✨✨🌟PEACE prevail n establish in this temporary guest house ie world. Amën.🌟

[@fightignorance3598]

I applaud you for calling out the ‘imperialistic genocide’ of the west led by the U.S.. Euphemism will not stop the west’s atrocities but on the opposite only fuel and bolster their atrocities and arrogance further. We are talking about human survival here, the fascist and imperialist west must be contained and stopped.

[@felipe-vibor]

@@fightignorance3598 at one point the rest of the world will unite against the west especially Anglo-Saxons. Even without war they are already destroying the world with their so called values. They no longer hide their double standards and outright hypocrisy. If it comes to hot war, millions will die but the west will be defeated

[@aurelianzafiu4155]

Bravo!!!!

[@Bisquick]

This is fantastic. I might add another reason for Stalin's defensive paranoia (to a fault really) is the reason Truman was leveraged as FDR's final term VP (replacing Henry Wallace who likely wouldn't have been so easy to rollover on this/other points), which is the dropping of 2 atomic bombs on Japan, which not only drew (exploded) incredibly clear and visible lines in the sand in terms of spheres of influence but also presented the actual willingness to use such paradigm-shifting weapons of mass destruction. FDR's agreement at Potsdam (or Yalta, I forget, one of those) for the USSR to enter the pacific front uncoincidentally let them witness this first hand - the second bomb dropping mere hours after their scheduled invasion. Also there's the whole CIA-run covert program out of Italy called Operation Gladio, the full intent of which was to direct "stay behind" fascist paramilitary ostensibly "in case of Soviet invasion" but really any leftward state reorientation after the war, similar to Weimar in a way with the freikorps (which of course unsurprisingly formalized into the SS) crushing the socialist/communist parties during the 1918 uprisings. Along with assistance from the Catholic Church (see the P2 lodge they funneled money through, and how this was eventually exposed through a bank-run investigation along with the death of "God's banker" in London) and mafia ("fun" fact: briefly mentioned in The Godfather pt.3 if I recall) in laundering money/funneling munitions to such paramilitary, the basic template became generating domestic terror attacks to generate fear and manufacture consent away from the left, usually by blaming leftist political parties in a Reichstag Fire -> Enabling Act-esque sort of way, known as the "strategy of tension", the "years of lead" in Italy are a direct result of this covert paramilitary direction. Not to mention the US-protect ratlines into South America, protecting people like Klaus Barbie (France/Bolivia), Otto Skorzeny (basically nazi james bond), Paul Schaffer (no not _that_ Paul Schaffer lol...this one's a literal nazi of course, instrumental in cultivating an ideological alignment for Pinochet's ascension - also enormous pedophile because of course he was...makes Epstein's whole thing look like, excuse the crass pun here lol, child's play), et al. in their migration to Chile/other parts of the global south so as to continue setting the global Cold War chessboard in a monroe doctrine-esque claim over south america through Operation Condor, which essentially used the same template of directing fascist paramilitary, the same strategy really used all over the globe frankly. I mean as sort of a continuum here, the nazis didn't really lose WWII, Germany did, and the US capitalist empire, rallying capital under the banner of neoliberalism and "free trade" imperialism via IMF/World Bank established in Bretton-Woods from our massive negotiating leverage after the war, merely subsumed the nazis and their ideological trajectory/vision and gradually, mostly covertly of course (also with Operation Paperclip) digested it into a slightly more palatable less viscerally ultranationalist aesthetic form, our dominion secured by our currency hegemony (Bretton-Woods -> Nixon shock kicking over the ladder of gold reserve backing from under us as nation-states could potentially accumulate their own gold reserves and usurp such financial leverage; petrodollar de facto world reserve currency grounding dollar purchasing power, as revealed by '73 OPEC embargo which led to domestic oil extraction to patch up this potential exploit) and ultimately enforced at implicit threat of the barrel of a gun via 800+ military bases and a black hole of "defense" budget, allowing us control over pretty much every aspect of geopolitical influence, rejecting subservience gets you highlighted for good 'ol "regime change" like Cuba or Venezuela (which, since Libya was noted as having the largest oil reserves in Africa, uncoincidentally Venezuela sits on the largest oil reserves on earth, what a "coincidence"). But yeah, this is great is the main point, just adding on top of course. For anyone circumstantially unfamiliar, also check out: The Devil's Chessboard by David Talbot, Killing Hope by William Blum, The Jakarta Method by Vincent Bevins, Confessions of an Economic Hitman by John Perkins, War is a Racket by Smedley Butler (also see: "Business plot" _actual_ fascist coup attempt by wall street revealed by general Butler as much to wall street's shagrin dude had a conscience, also the bonus army veteran march on washington proposing at the very least a bonus for their service/sacrifice in WWI, M1918 tanks were deployed in the streets of DC in response, shocker), etc. etc. Or just like look up "regime change" or any of the CIA's operational history.

[@saabajoe]

Pfeew the longest, 2nd and 3rd longest sentences I have ever read anywhere 😂! But little effort paid for the gain in the information present. I was generally aware of most of the information presented but certainly also gained new detail. Thank you for your time, energy and contribution.

[@transformersdecepticondude8597]

Sure would like forensics to dig deep about inhouse life insurance policies placed on the heads that were selected for extermination by the warmongers. Like in Germany WWII. I sometimes wonder if from 1744 in Jim Marrs books these warmongers actually created at some point life insurance policies that went on far further for all then their inhouse insurance company? I wish I had the authority to have forensics perform duty in the name of all humanity. Donald Suiters

[@rockcvn71]

Very genuine conversation gentlemen. Thank you.

[@maxmeggeneder8935]

Not a single lie or falsehood in here. Very good analysis and a lot of extremely important educational content. Very refreshing and absolutely necessary content. Thank you! I subscribed to Break Through News after listening to Rania's speech at this year's Rosa Luxemburg Konferenz. Im glad I did.

[@Brianbeesandbikes]

Hi Max Meggeneder, I tried to but failed to find link to Rania's speech at this year's Rosa Luxemburg Konferenz. Could you share the link? Thanks, brother!

[@maxmeggeneder8935]

@@Brianbeesandbikes Here is the link kzbin.info/www/bejne/gmS0q6iKha-ChbM But if you don´t speak german it´s of no use to you. It´s translated into german and her speech is dubbed over by the translator.

[@beatrizmunguia8316]

Congratulations. Extraordinary. So illustrative. Thanks!

[@mgaaad-desturi8377]

Very helpful discussions ever. Two extremely knowledgeable people I have ever encountered; diving into the real truth without any phobias of being accused of belonging to the enemy’s camps. I had a reason for staying up listening to you guys. Keep it up! It’s boring to live on propaganda as has always been the case in most media outlets.

[@alexv1269]

Enjoyed your analysis, thank you guys! Lots of historical myths unraveled. Manufacturing consent is as American as apple pie, from the dawn of the last century.

[@BryanWong]

NATO needs a solid excuse to be relevant again. What better than provoke enmity against Russia

[@ferdinandaside3438]

THANKS GUYS TEACH THEM GREAT SHOW. TEACH THEM.FRM 🇸🇷

[@mahlubonkemakunga3315]

Being African and a Pan-Africanist , I have a natural inclination towards a left leaning world view. I'm overjoyed to have found this podcast, it's so informative.

[@kiwikeith7633]

It is not long since I would have skipped watching or reading anything openly Socialist. But events, especially over the past three years, have caused me to re-evaluate a lot of things. First up, while still a youngster at school, I recall the menace of the Soviet Union being drummed into us daily. A few times we also had nuclear strike practices. It was like the Soviets were hardly human, but instead automatons bent on world domination and killing. I recall also wondering how it was that Soviet citizens could not possibly be NORMAL people who love their fathers, mothers siblings and extended families. What a mystery. Growing through middle age and onward into old age, this ridiculous model persisted in absence of better information. Well thanks to the Internet and my interest starting early to find out the Russian view on World affairs, I realised I was changing my views about Russia, about President Putin, and about Governments. But also I realised my trust and faith in the USA and Western sources to tell me the complete TRUTH about what was going on. I despaired at Western Media enough that for much time now, I avoid televisions, radio and newspapers. Don't worry, I still get more than enough information from various angles. But listening to your thoughts, I am reminded of a question I am pondering at present. I suspect I know what the result might turn out to be. Lets see . . . how shall I put it. Here goes - DEMOCRACY is almost unknown in history. We have had war-lords, Royalty, Despots, Dictators, slave owners and so on, but not DEMOCRACY. So I am asking if DEMOCRACY is a form of governance that suits people naturally? My country is usually considered a FREE DEMOCRACY, and yet our ( arguably elected ) politicians are behaving as DICTATORS, DESPOTS and really have oppressed the citizens and employed violence against peaceful protest. They enact laws that turn out to be informal and illegal, but who cares? They are the government and what they say and choose is what is enforced - even with brutality. I also dwell on the question "Who or what are they serving?" Do they serve the people, or some other entity. The latter is most likely in my view, and that would not be democracy. So its a ?Democracy" in which the views of the people do not matter. But the ?Democracies? do criticise Russia as if Russia was worse than them, and lets not forget in their view Russia is corrupt and undemocratic? I have lost faith, trust and respect for my government, its propaganda outlets (Media), and in that we will have any DEMOCRATIC elections ever again. Now I watch Russia and the Ukraine event. I blame the USA, and its "playing chicken" as one yank put it for the situation that now exists as our country and our world plummet into depression and stupidity. I am ashamed that I did not see this earlier. I wish Russia well.

[@davidjohnzenocollins]

I'm the same way. 63 years old and once upon a time I actually believed in the Cold War propaganda. Socialism?! No way! That's evil. I've gotten smarter since then...I hope.

[@slavkas.6552]

It’s so sad that you and everyone else had to live in fear of SSSR only because US government has used propaganda & utter lies but its really great that now you’ve allowed yourself to open your mind and allowed yourself to learn so much more about this beautiful country and people that really never wanted any wars anywhere! Well done! 👍

[@kiwikeith7633]

@@slavkas.6552 Really I think that after this struggle, Russia will emerge a beacon of the future. Oddly enough Russia and the West / USA are changing places to quite some extent. I know my country now has restrictions, laws that Stalin might have been envious of. But when I hear President Putin, he makes sense. I would dearly love to visit Russia, and if I were wealthy enough, live there even though I am not used to snow, and find the language and alphabet bewildering. I saw on some online videos how your grocery prices and necessities have become so expensive. I don't know hoe you will get though this, but am sure you will make it through, stronger, independent, and worthy of high respect. The same can't be said of the West. The more news I see out from Ukraine, the more I understand the importance of Russia finishing off the AZOF problem. Good luck.

[@wkcs007]

Greeting Sir! I wished that more US citizens could think like you do. Than we all could see each other as equals. Wishing you all the best, from Indonesia.

[@ColtraneTaylor]

Can you please edit and break it into para's? I would like to read it.

[@stephencunningham6557]

An addition to the fantastic content here would be Michael Hudson's book Superimperialism

[@freddievenida4301]

This advocacy to abolish NATO is the best argument to envigorate and empower more the NATO !!!

[@bmblb5835]

"If those days were not cut short, no flesh would be saved " . . .

[@jamesscott7616]

Wow wow and wow again. As an Australian where we live in relative bliss as a source of mineral resources for the reconstruction of Europe and also Japan under the Marshal Plan, and now with only one major media conglomerate owned by Murdoch it seems that as well fed puppy dogs we or at least I have wondered why our why our Governments have been so subservient to every request to die for American and British wars that seemed unjust. Now that you have so comprehensively filled in my knowledge of the real history of the modern political world I can now understand my confusion and distaste for the distopian world I live in. What I still can't understand is how and why the American people vote in the traitorous greedy and sociapathic politicians and why the people are angrily divided between two political parties who have identical policies despite their rhetoric. It always amazes me that the excuse for inexcusabe wars is " we are bringing those little brown people the joys of Democracy" when clearly the USA and most Western countries are either avaricious Oligarchies or about to become one. Furthermore it seems that the real power increasingly lies with international oligarchs working alongside the unacountable secret services. Little wonder the disparity in wealthy nations is greater than in poor ones.As a young man I read a quote by Nelson Rockefeller who said that the CIA's role was not to protect America from the Russians, it was to propagate American business interests abroad and that Russia is not the real threat it was the have nots - in America I presumed. It certainly seems that every war is promoted by the CIA paid for by the have nots and funded by both the government and the opposition and benefits the filthy rich.

[@sunnykhaw5118]

US has to create more Wars in order to Sell & Supply more Weapons so that the Warmonger Politicians, the Directors of the Weapons manufacturers the Richs and the Powerful peoples will be making Huge monies from it ... Each fighter plane , Tank, Missles, Rocket Lancher, Anti - Tank Gun and other Military Equipments ... will cost few hundred millions US.dollars Each. So you see .. Good monies to Create more Wars using Lies & Human Rights and Democracy an Excuse to Invade countries. They will

[@sunnykhaw5118]

Using Lies, Human Rights & Democracy as an Excuse to wage War and Invade countries that do not obey them. These Warmongers do not Care about the lost of Peoples & Soldiers lives, the Sufferings and Destructions to the countries they have Invaded. This is just a Business to them ...What a Real Shame to these Warmongers ???

[@timeallen6900]

I approve this conversation

[@sawyer4713]

What an informative episode. Thank you.

[@bill4056]

thank you that there is a channel who dares to tell the truths. my respect to this channel

[@giannirocco7492]

This is exactly what every news source should be talking about,this is the headline all news sources should be running with!WTF is wrong with pretty much every news source in the U.S. and the E.U.?"Controlled by war mongering sell outs" should be the disclaimer for most all of them!

[@SimonAshworthWood]

Exactly!

[@eileenmc4746]

Pressitutes

[@anathonyjamaica4390]

Good stuff

[@lindamoore3304]

You are so right but you might become a 🎯 for speaking against NATO 😂 America has a problem with the truth unless it's the truth they make up.

[@alexanderokuonghae7298]

I believe that the losses suffered by Russia in Ukraine, if the account of the losses as reported by western news media is true, is because Russia decides not to employed its full military might inorder to save lives of Ukraine population. Let peace reign.

[@ewalker1057]

China is supporting Argentina and its efforts to regain the Falkland Islands from Britain.

[@gvozdenkuronja7414]

I guess he oversimplified for U.S. audience (avoiding confusion), so no, NATO didn't bomb that Yugoslavia (with all the republics), but did bomb Serbian lines in Bosnian civil war (Bosnian Muslims VS Bosnian Serbs) in '95, and Yugoslavia already broken with secession of the republics (becoming independent states) of Slovenia, Macedonia, Croatia (with civil war), Bosnia and Herzegovina (with civil war) So in '99, when that "humanitarian" NATO bombardment started two remaining republics of the Yugoslavia were Serbia and Montenegro. All NATO "interventions" in Yugoslavia were exclusively against Sebian people (out of six constitutional nationalities and one major minoritie group- Albanians), because of Serbian historic (still ongoing) affiliation with Russia and Russian people.

[@1917Tristan]

Such an amazing episode. thank you both!

[@sherrilcarss6091]

Thank You! Keep Up the Good Work! Your conversation is most enlightening, very much appreciated, though extremely saddenIng😔 God Bless You ✝️ 🙌 both and your families

[@casteretpollux]

Good talk. Important to grasp now re the Ukraine War what the speaker says about the tense and underlying hostile relationship between US neo-colonialism and European colonialism. The working class is an international class. No one part has the right to hold others back, we go forward where we can, when we can. We have a fundamental need to support each other.

[@kaweesaismail1520]

I believe this why Russia 🇷🇺 perfected in defensive systems cz its provoked and threatened every tym

[@martinzehr6868]

Before World War Two, the Western Powers promoted German expansion eastward. Non-intervention in Spain enabled the seizure of power by the military junta. The United States, France and England rejected collective security to confront Nazi lebensraum. What was called appeasement was nothing less than Western powers facilitating the German invasion of the Soviet Union. It undermined the strategic tasks, such as a second front, needed to defeat Nazi Germany and let the Soviet Union carry the burden of the war. After the defeat of Nazi Germany the Soviet Union upheld its pledge to fight the Japanese despite a previous non-aggression pact with Japan. The atomic bombs were dropped on Japan to re-define the Western relations with the Soviet Union to establish the hegemony of the United States internationally. The Russian Federation and the Peoples' Republic of China have seen the United States actions regarding Taiwan and Hong Kong and the expansion of NATO on Russia's borders.

[@rttrttyan]

“German expansion eastward” hmm… what country was directly east of Germany again? What happened when they invaded that country? Finally who helped them invade that country?

[@felixrabe]

So important!

[@watis2bedone]

Thank you

[@hangonsnoop]

This was a useful discussion. It would be enhanced if a bibliography or suggestions for further reading would be included.

[@buhayatkalusugan7716]

NATO should be abolished!

[@sunnykhaw5118]

I full agreed .. they were form is because the US wanted to be more powerful& strong and using it to be able to wage more Wars.

[@sundiatakannunm1158]

The USA did not allow Russian missiles in Cuba in the 60's which is now the same situation with Ukraine. European hedgemoy-domemanance is still alive. They have not given up on enslavering all lndigenouis people on this planet.

[@antoniogomes1202]

The super analytical war thinker.you are THE BEST and the only ONE period.

[@jackspeed8940]

Hey guys, this is all super interesting information to me. I have not had great access to this previously, but could you explain why, in none of this, is the fact that Putin is a dictator and an extremely corrupt oligarch mentioned? Surely, when evaluating the motives of a country ruled, as it is, by such a powerful political figure, this would be worth discussion and analysing? I condemn the USA's foreign policy, but surely we also have to condemn the Russian regime that has poisoned and killed its political opponents (sometimes on the doorstep of government buildings). Could someone please explain where that is in this conversation? Thank you

[@Koloviv48i]

The west demonisation of Putin is what they have also done to strong men they think will challenge them, eg, Kim Jon-Un, Ghadaffi, Milosovich, Sadam Hussein, they tried it on the Ayatollahs in Iran but realise they couldn't succeed and now Russia who won't tolerate their arms been place on their door steps. When Russia put missile in Cuba so close to America, Kennedy didn't like it. Putin is not a dictator just a man who won't accept his country destroy the the imperialist

[@MrSkiloV]

@@Koloviv48i Putin is a dictator…not as outward as a Lukashenko (you forgot him on your list) though. I suggest you do some research about Russian politics before you continue your America bad Russia always good Putin is just a man speech. Real research not Wikipedia or KZbin “experts”.

[@jamesbergin8363]

of course I should have known better the USA UK CIA Mi6 don't kill anyone I forgot there the good guys people in glass houses. James Bergin airdrie Scotland UK. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿👍

[@peadarocleirigh1896]

If you want to hear negative opinions on Putin just switch on your TV. A conversation about the price of onions does not lose validity because it doesn't cover the price of fish.

[@olanrewajuakinpelu5118]

Cracking down opposition is an internal problems in any ruling government whenever sitting government rulership is threatened. It does lead to civil insurrection and arson and killing but same will be resolved using hovt internal institutions. The case Russia and Ukraine is a step up by NATO /US to really use them irrespective destruction which Ukraine will received to get at and weakened Russia militarily and economically.

[@bribay]

I like the history Lesson. But the fear mongering about war with Russia is overboard

[@adtiamzon3663]

Excellent information for all about NATO's formation, US, Moscow, and Communist countries. Thank you.

[@richardbluhm1873]

Brilliant!

[@HxH2011DRA]

Amazing history lesson, will definitely share this alot

[@deanrao4805]

At 4:00 Eugene almost let the cat out of the bag. It sounded like he was about to say that the US is threatening to use anything that they can interpret as aggression on Russia's part as an "opportunity"😬.

[@nedkelly8495]

Excellent. Informative & analytical

[@bashamoalin4636]

NATO should apologise the world and it should be devolved. No need for NATO .they have committed crimes against humanity in Libya 🇱🇾 in Afghanistan 🇦🇫 and now this war in Ukraine 🇺🇦 its because of NATO.

[@abuharam]

I feel like yall should interview Oliver Stone re: US and Russia. That untold history of the united states series he put out was really in depth about the forces shaping US policy, comong out of WWII. ive watched the forst fove episodes over and over, and much of the historical footage was entirely new to me. Might be an interesting conversation.

[@SeptoContrarian]

And Oliver Stone's Ukraine on Fire. So far it's still on KZbin but it may be pulled soon for showing the truth.

[@Duck-wc9de]

10:35 a promisse where there was no written treaty or even a signature, between two people that are both already dead and one of those countries doesnt exist anymore. is that a valid promisse? is germany still binded by the treaties Prussia signed?

[@buhayatkalusugan7716]

Thank you. Now, I understand.

[@StarPlanet56789]

Absolutely 💯.

[@bluestar2253]

Remember AUKUS to counter China? Glad they didn't invite France to join? ;)

[@troutstalker4744]

Learn a lot today. Thank you BT.

[@godlormgps9545]

This is one of the most brilliant discussion I like it so much

[@LeThanh-gk6vh]

You're bring a whole bunch of brothers came to this guy house's front door, asked for the fight, and you told the people this guy threatened you, oh my God, what's problems with you,man!

[@fahmad7194]

The costly Afghan rout has put the NATO under stress

[@medmcmedmc]

Keep up the work, gentlemen!

[@rosaurasymeonidis3235]

I’m so glad to not be the only one thinking to dissolve or like you guys said to abolish NATO. Additionally, I will say that along with NATO; WHO, UN and EU should abolish. They are just being misery, economy catastrophe, human loss, starvations and war. Every country should have their own policy, their own defense, their own free will , to become autonomous and self-independence.

[@tandinpeljor4992]

People needs peace not the destruction and chaos.

[@7g7na7]

Thanks for the KZbin on this topic. It was informative and brought up some questions that were not addressed. What influence could the Soviet Union's alliance with Nazi Germany under the Molotov-Ribbentrop Nonaggression Pact in August 1939, at the outset of WWII, play in the Allies' reaction following the conclusion of the war in setting up NATO (led by the U.S.) - and its 'mindset' of perceived future Soviet expansion and threat? The Soviets invaded Poland 16 days or so after Germany invaded Poland in September 1939. The Soviets invaded Finland in November 1939. The Soviets didn't need to invade either country, except perhaps as a land grab to begin their buffering from the west. It's curious that the allies never declared war on the Soviet Union, even though France and Britain had a defensive pact with Poland. I realize there was a lot of diplomatic nuance in the decision not to declare war, and it could have pushed the Soviet Union into a military alliance rather than a non-aggression pact with Germany. Another consideration, Russia and the Prussian and Austro-Hungarian empires occupied Poland prior to WWI; and so, perhaps this was an opportunity to reclaim its empire. Vyacheslav Molotov is quoted as saying, "One blow from the German army and another from the Soviet army put an end to this ugly product of Versailles." History is messy. One American general at least, Patton, thought the U.S. was going to go to war with the Soviet Union at some point, while Eisenhower was trying to avoid that type of confrontation. In Patton's simple-minded sort of way, he saw the two ideologies of communism/totalitarianism and capitalism/democratism as incompatible. I believe the use of the atomic bomb on Japan was a demonstration to the Soviet Union to tread cautiously. NATO was formed April of 1949 and the Soviet Union exploded their first atomic bomb in August 1949 and both sides settled into a standoff. A point I am trying to make is that there are so many underlying factors that have led to the reason NATO still persists and the current standoff in Ukraine as well. Neither side trusts the other. And so they continue to make moves and countermoves on the global war chessboard. China is entering the foray on a tri-level chessboard. IF NATO was disbanded, would all of the respective adversaries go back to their natural borders? Is NATO the glue maintaining the saber-rattling and diplomatic hostilities? If the WEST directed its economic resources, capability and innovation to infrastructure improvements and technological advancements, etc., while protecting its intellectual property, rather than military hegemony and imperialism (projecting its strength), it could possibly be a better direction for the West to pursue.

[@adafu2]

I beg to clarify: the Russians won WWII. Please stop twisting history. US contribution was small compared to Russia and U.K.

[@ma859]

Thank you for the TRUTH.

[@jeanclaudejoseph4840]

Yes I like your show guys