The very first MN Siemens Charger test trains

[@NassauandSuffolkCountyRailfan]

I can't wait to see those SC-42DM in revenue service once the testing is complete

[@mr.conductorfromsts4204]

Me too

[@TimsTrainAndBusAdventures]

They'll be out in about a month or two

[@MetroNorth203Productions]

First train is my favorite unit, P32AC-DM 203! That needs a repaint though, and the new fleet looks pretty well. We will miss the Genesis locomotives.

[@NJTAmtrakGuy]

The Chargers look like a modernized version of the LIRR DE30. Also it would look better if they put the MTA logo on the nose. It looks too plain without it. Great shots!

[@maestromecanico597]

They are related since the LIRR DE/DM family has Siemens inverter and central control units.

[@TimsTrainAndBusAdventures]

word

[@thesubwaynut]

Plan to get some clips of these locomotives once many are in service.

[@easternroutemainlinevideos6823]

I honestly like the look of these units over the other designs. As much as I love the genesis series locomotives, it’s time for a change. Hopefully tho they keep one or 2 decent running ones to keep as protect power.

[@galaxyrailfanning7860]

Epic video! Those things are awesome!

[@Northeast_Railfan]

Wow! Amazing catch!

[@FL92002]

@@Northeast_Railfan thanks!

[@13thFlProductions]

I wonder if the Charger was running using its third rail shoes in electric mode in that last shot. I can't really tell if it was in diesel or electric mode from the shot. Half of the point of these Chargers is to actually be able to use the extent of electrification reliably so I am very excited about that!

[@davidng2336]

Diesel mode only for these first test runs. The shoes weren’t installed yet at the time.

[@FL92002]

@@davidng2336 302 has shoes already, 301 does not.

[@davidng2336]

@@FL92002 ah ok. Thanks.

[@seanC3i]

Very quiet for diesel engines. It looks like their push pull capabilities are not being tested yet, otherwise not sure why they would be run one engine front abd back like that. Good video!

[@MrCubsfan3]

Maybe for extra testing ? I wondered that myself.

[@jackslc01]

I hope the Shoreliners gets their replacement soon

[@maestromecanico597]

Coaches are on order with Alstom. Don’t remember the delivery date…not that it matters.

[@roderickcampbell2105]

Very sleek and very fast.

[@mrvwbug4423]

They're 15mph faster than the Genesis (125mph vs 110mph), but in Metro North service I believe 80mph is the top line speed anyway. There's some 90mph line speed track on the Hudson Valley line but it's all north of Poughkipsee. They should accelerate faster than the P32s.

[@New.England.Rail.Enthusiast]

Awesome video.

[@FL92002]

@@New.England.Rail.Enthusiast thanks!

[@New.England.Rail.Enthusiast]

@ your welcome

[@ccxi_4300]

wait the rear headlights and tailights were on at the same time

[@brandonayala4274]

Imagine the LIRR with those locomotives

[@adrastos9464]

They are looking for a replacement and I know it was based off the charger design. It probably will end up being these if they’re successful

[@MichaelMitchRailfan2009]

From what I can tell from my knowledge, these chargers Siemens are going to be enter service by 2026-2027 just in time before they start delivering the chargers for LIRR

[@matthewc65531]

Service for the Semiens Charger will start on Early 2025

[@documentingprez47]

cool video

[@FL92002]

@documentingprez47 thanks!

[@MrPedroramos8911]

Nice and shiny

[@maestromecanico597]

I like how you timed it to have a Genesis and a Charger in the same scene to compare noise levels. Obviously you did it on purpose.

[@kirkzevola5004]

I see they used The Birmingham set for Charger testing.

[@TimsTrainAndBusAdventures]

How are they gonna replace the diesels and not the shoreliners when the shorliners are twice the age of the p32s

[@brooklynboytransitfanner8812]

When the hell did this arrive NY and why wasn't I informed about it?

[@mr.conductorfromsts4204]

Early November

[@TimsTrainAndBusAdventures]

The MTA is supposed to be getting some Kawasaki M9s to replace the M3s.

[@SouthernCtRailfan]

Will these ever test on the New Haven line or one of the branches?

[@FL92002]

@@SouthernCtRailfan without a doubt, yes.

[@stuartaaron613]

I've heard rumors that Amtrak and LIRR will also be getting these units as well. Any truth to that rumor, as far as you know?

[@maestromecanico597]

NYSDOT has options for more Chargers including for the LIRR.

[@epilleux]

Are they hybrid?

[@FL92002]

Not exactly hybrid, but low emissions (think Tier 4). These are also dual mode, being capable of running on diesel or third rail. As designed, these engines are supposed to run on third rail wherever it exists (not just coming out of the Park Avenue Tunnel), before changing over to diesel.

[@trainking076]

3:16

[@abgcapital4597]

Will they be able to operate in grand central station?

[@FL92002]

@abgcapital4597 yes. That is the whole reason for getting them: so they can run into Grand Central Terminal and replace the Genesis locomotives.

[@dutchvanderlinde154]

How did you find about the testing snd when

[@FL92002]

@@dutchvanderlinde154 accurate info keeps me in the know

[@dutchvanderlinde154]

@@FL92002 yea but where

[@vorzaiiqc]

How did you get the right timing? Do you have a thing where you can track non service trains?

[@FL92002]

@vorzaiiqc using a scanner allows you to know where the train is. The train has to call the train dispatcher and let them know where they want to go. When they do that, it gives me a chance to get to my next photo/video location.

[@vorzaiiqc]

@ ohh okay thank you

[@PopnMusicAndNCRailsproduction]

Cooo

[@MarcelosalivaTRENESArg]

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[@cryorig_transit05]

How did you know they were testing?

[@FL92002]

@@cryorig_transit05 accurate info keeps me in the know.

[@cryorig_transit05]

@FL92002 Public info or from someone?

[@FL92002]

Yes

[@geofftech]

​@@FL92002 😂This is as good as a non-answer.

[@povertyspec9651]

High maintenance junk

[@jamesa6272]

Junk

[@jharris5387]

It always amazes me how these people think building these electric trains will work better than diesel trains. Electric trains will short out in rain and how long does one charge last?

[@FL92002]

@jharris5387 um...these engines are diesel-electric locomotives with third rail shoes, just like their predecessors. The Genesis locomotives made it 30 years. The FL9's made it over 50 years. As for the electric trains (MU's), they operate in the rain just fine, as do the engines.

[@mrvwbug4423]

Electric trains work just fine in the rain. LIRR and Metro North are still primarily electric systems, the NEC is 100% electrified, and most of the rail systems of Europe are mostly electrified.

[@agentrgwx8529]

💀

[@bahnspotterEU]

How are you this delusional? Electric trains short out in rain?! Ah yes, the whole developed and developing world is using a method of transportation that apparently can‘t withstand one of the most basic weather occurrences. India, a country with some of the worst rain on earth is now almost fully electrified in terms of railways. What could that tell you? Think before writing!