The Victor Wembanyama Defensive Player Of The Year Controversy

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3 ай бұрын

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@ModernTwoThree
@ModernTwoThree 3 ай бұрын
Imma go to a spurs game soon and make a video out of it. Would you watch that? Gonna hire an editor so it’s much better edited than my usual videos 😂
@mateo1467
@mateo1467 3 ай бұрын
yes
@ykitsmandyyy
@ykitsmandyyy 3 ай бұрын
Yesss
@shariyarmahmood5602
@shariyarmahmood5602 3 ай бұрын
Is it for tomorrow? Cuz he might not even play haha
@cbhooped
@cbhooped 3 ай бұрын
Only if you have floor seats
@aron3481
@aron3481 3 ай бұрын
Go to the rockets one on the 10th imma be there
@vitoravila9908
@vitoravila9908 3 ай бұрын
#1 Blocks, #1 Stocks, #12 Steals per game, #7 Defensive rebounds, #10 Defensive Win Shares, #4 Defensive Box Plus/Minus, #3 Defensive rating, #4 Defensive rebound pct, #2 Block pct…in a MINUTES RESTRICTION!! And the man doesn’t foul!! He got MORE BLOCKS THAN FOULS by a lot!! That’s 3.3 blocks and 2.2 fouls per game….A ROOKIE!
@kGod-jj7ch
@kGod-jj7ch 3 ай бұрын
This what I been saying bruh
@Bdx357
@Bdx357 3 ай бұрын
Factor his blocks per game in a three point shooting league that’s tick tack soft… what he’s doing at more than 3bpg is harder than it was 15 or more years ago
@Lilmacmcmo
@Lilmacmcmo 3 ай бұрын
I was going to write something up but you covered it all and there's nothing left to say lol. Wemby has the resume to win it right now with so many games left. His stats are only going to get better, not worse.
@Zytate
@Zytate 3 ай бұрын
Imo I would give it to him
@DanSuy
@DanSuy 3 ай бұрын
i like how everyone how keep mentioning his good numbers and not mentioning the team keep taking L
@Deletedcommentfactory
@Deletedcommentfactory 3 ай бұрын
When it’s called defensive PLAYER of the year, what exactly does the rest of the teams performance have to do with it?
@jesther2575
@jesther2575 3 ай бұрын
Bro doesn't know ball
@vicedm1145
@vicedm1145 3 ай бұрын
Right
@repj
@repj 3 ай бұрын
@@jesther2575 he makes a point it shouldn't be based around the team he is on, its not an mvp where they consider the players actual value to a team and how much their impact contributes into wins. its literally defensive player of the year
@r33th
@r33th 3 ай бұрын
​@@jesther2575nah you just dont know english
@blackout995
@blackout995 3 ай бұрын
​@jesther2575 it's not knowing ball, it's knowing media bias... prime Ben Wallace couldn't win DPOY on this spurs team, their record and defensive rating is just too shit
@stannistargaryen
@stannistargaryen 3 ай бұрын
"Victor Wenbanyama Is the only player in NBA history with at least 175 assists, 175 blocks, and 75 made 3's in a season. And it's Only March. He also has the most points per minute for a rookie since Michael Jordan in 1984,85." How is he not ROTY and DPOY?
@lachlandarrington7704
@lachlandarrington7704 3 ай бұрын
Big up OM3
@stannistargaryen
@stannistargaryen 3 ай бұрын
@@lachlandarrington7704 Yeah they provided all the stats
@deeziebaby7241
@deeziebaby7241 3 ай бұрын
Cause every day, a random player has some stat line "that has never been done before." MPJ just had one the other day shooting 100%. So what?
@quangho9109
@quangho9109 3 ай бұрын
@@deeziebaby7241100% fg has been done before by wilt chamberlain? your comment makes no sense.
@deeziebaby7241
@deeziebaby7241 3 ай бұрын
@@quangho9109 Good fail. Try again.
@007kevin24
@007kevin24 3 ай бұрын
Its crazy how the nba and nfl wont let you win anything besides rookie of the year your first year
@nomercyinc6783
@nomercyinc6783 3 ай бұрын
thats not true at all. no rookie is setting any league on fire. rookies dont matter as rookies. one good season and nothing else isnt impressive or even worth talking about
@alexwitt2745
@alexwitt2745 3 ай бұрын
@@nomercyinc6783 wasn't exactly on board with what the first comment was, but like what are you talking about? Wemby like a top 15 player XD
@Diamante777
@Diamante777 3 ай бұрын
wilt and wes won mvps their rookie years
@bonjouritsready
@bonjouritsready 3 ай бұрын
⁠@@nomercyinc6783‘that’s not true at all’ didn’t correlate at all with the rest of what you said
@johon127
@johon127 3 ай бұрын
@@Diamante777 aside from ancient times ofc
@LighTY-
@LighTY- 3 ай бұрын
Robinson was like 4 years older than wemby as a rookie
@KNByam
@KNByam 3 ай бұрын
He went to military school, hence the name, The Admiral.
@dakota8381
@dakota8381 3 ай бұрын
@@KNByam He only missed out on 2 seasons
@user-ky7le9bf2m
@user-ky7le9bf2m 3 ай бұрын
@@KNByam He had to serve 2 years as an officer per his agreement with the Naval Academy. This was after he graduated.
@jonl2443
@jonl2443 3 ай бұрын
I rather they get mitchell then trae
@LighTY-
@LighTY- 3 ай бұрын
@@jonl2443 u want to pare wemby with a scorer instead of a high volume shooter with crazy range and top tier playmaking?
@deezybalboa6625
@deezybalboa6625 3 ай бұрын
The man is gonna have 200 blocks and 100 steals as a rookie! Give him the damn award!
@AppliedNuggets
@AppliedNuggets 3 ай бұрын
If they didn’t have Wemby theyd be worse than the Pistons 😂
@mulanomula
@mulanomula 3 ай бұрын
That's the same type of energy as saying "If a cheetah didn't have legs they'd be as slow as a sloth" like wtf is your logic?
@IDontKnow-fr3vs
@IDontKnow-fr3vs 3 ай бұрын
@@mulanomulabro what
@heroe1486
@heroe1486 3 ай бұрын
​​​​@@mulanomula What you miss is that a player is an individual, a team is not an individual, how does it even make sense with your analogy ? Your analogy would've made sense if he was saying "Wenbanyama wouldn't be as good if he wasn't that tall", not here.
@jadeisonfire
@jadeisonfire 3 ай бұрын
@@mulanomulaso Wemby is as valuable to the Spurs as legs are to a predator? sounds like a unanimous MVP
@kasparslange912
@kasparslange912 3 ай бұрын
If they didn't have Wemby they would better team... because they would tank it
@maurygoldblat8982
@maurygoldblat8982 3 ай бұрын
It's funny... From 1998-2008, a ten year span, the San Antonio Spurs had the #1 defense in the NBA EVERY YEAR but 1 season (2002 the Nets were #1). Tim Duncan was the defensive anchor. Duncan has the highest defensive rating of all time, and has 3 more all defensive teams than any other player. He never won DPOTY because he never led the league in blocks. That's it. Instead... whomever led the league in blocks basically won each year. Nobody gave two shits about team defense. Otherwise, TD would have 8 or 9 DPOTY. Wembanyama is a God. The fact that they CHEATED him out of a rookie all star appearance should disgust everyone. If they rob him of this, and if they rob him of an ALL NBA TEAM, they are a disgrace.
@emilfrederiksen.1622
@emilfrederiksen.1622 3 ай бұрын
He also competed against some elite defenders tho like Ben Wallace who has a case of being the best defender of all time.
@melanatedgod5337
@melanatedgod5337 3 ай бұрын
​@emilfrederiksen.1622 Timmy beat him head to head a lot lol.
@kyoukai8596
@kyoukai8596 2 ай бұрын
Who would he even replace in the all star game. Take out kat for sabonis and then You putting wemby over AD?
@chadbrisco4042
@chadbrisco4042 3 ай бұрын
Imagine if Wemby played in the 80s and 90s when offenses actually drove into the paint and Wemby would be able to hand check people and get physical with them. He'd average 7 bpg
@dctrscuffed6839
@dctrscuffed6839 3 ай бұрын
The numbers say one thing, what isn’t even accounted for is that dudes driving down the lane literally turn the other way and/or give the ball up when they see him standing down there all….. menacingly.
@falcon1378
@falcon1378 3 ай бұрын
Not to mention how much gravity he has on the court, teams literally try their best to stay away from him, and he’ll still run over and snatch the ball outta the air.
@NogginEgg
@NogginEgg 3 ай бұрын
tbf people do that with gobert too
@jaaymurray3608
@jaaymurray3608 3 ай бұрын
@@NogginEggbut Wemby still gets more blocks by far
@jcbyo
@jcbyo 3 ай бұрын
its called defensive PLAYER of the year not defensive TEAM of the year. ive seen enough wemby ROY & DPOY
@titanr6165
@titanr6165 3 ай бұрын
Gobert still better defensively
@easylife6348
@easylife6348 3 ай бұрын
@@titanr6165not really when he’s on a good defensive team. Spurs defense is booty compare to the rest of the league without wemby.
@DKhalil
@DKhalil 3 ай бұрын
@@titanr6165Gobert ? You got to be kidding . Is not the plan of the opposing team to put Gobert on a island far from the rim to get easy buckets ? When he plays for the Jazz he was a liability on both ends , if he’s not really close to the rim he is useless. Wemby is way more agile and mobile , you can’t put him in iso, and try to pass him with your quickness, he is agile enough to recalibrate and quick enough to get you at the rim, Gobert can’t.
@titanr6165
@titanr6165 2 ай бұрын
@@easylife6348 Gobert had to deal with that his entire stent with the Jazz and he actually had at least a top 10 defense every year of his career almost
@titanr6165
@titanr6165 2 ай бұрын
@@DKhalil 😭Gobert is the best isolation defender in the league currently, he never gets attacked even in that postseasons with the clippers they were avoiding him and attacking his teammates bad defense kzbin.info/www/bejne/nIOQZ5mgg6iVhrssi=jRv-FpVhF4NiaaQ2
@ziplockbaggies8707
@ziplockbaggies8707 3 ай бұрын
Wemby should definitely get DPOY. The fact they tie it to team record is lame af
@vFrosty2K
@vFrosty2K 3 ай бұрын
Exactly & he’s a clutch defender, he makes big stops in the big moments and gotten them a couple of those wins on his defense alone
@nomercyinc6783
@nomercyinc6783 3 ай бұрын
players dont deserve awards on shit teams. the bottom of the standings dont deservre hype at all. wembys stat lines and the spurs losing isnt impressive or even important
@infinty7409
@infinty7409 3 ай бұрын
​@@nomercyinc6783cry me a river, so jokic or russ don't deserve their mvps? Because as you said they were on shit teams so with that logic they were shit
@The.Drunk-Koala
@The.Drunk-Koala 3 ай бұрын
​@@nomercyinc6783haters still gonna hate. Wemby is the Real MVP, lugnut.
@FruktSalladMedFrukt
@FruktSalladMedFrukt 3 ай бұрын
​@@infinty7409those were not shit teams when they were MVPs, they were all title contenders.... Spurs is not a title contenders this season. No one is scared of the spurs 😂
@gms9779
@gms9779 3 ай бұрын
Wemby's arms are like Doctor Octopus on defense..
@catchnkill
@catchnkill 3 ай бұрын
Wemby is undoubtly the defensive player of the year. It is not just statistics. He affects the way his opponent team's offense system unfold. Because of his presence and protection of the paint area, his opponent team does not penetrate as much and relies on mid-range and three point shots. It always takes away the default offense system of his opponents.
@catchnkill
@catchnkill 3 ай бұрын
@@nomercyinc6783 Basketball is a team sports. It takes a whole team to win. How about Micheal Jordan, how about Lebon James, how about Shaq, how about Curry, how about Kobe Bryant? Were they very good? Why none of them won a NBA championship in their rookie year. Why their team losed?
@johnnydiabetes6563
@johnnydiabetes6563 3 ай бұрын
@@nomercyinc6783because the spurs have terrible players around him. If you can’t understand something as simple as that you shouldn’t be commenting on basketball
@xoam
@xoam 3 ай бұрын
@@nomercyinc6783this dumb ass take is so fucking braindead bruh. you can appreciate and value a players impact without them winning a ring. especially a rookie. don’t get your panties in a bunch because a rookie is getting more attention then your team
@itshurtt395
@itshurtt395 3 ай бұрын
Being the best defensive player of the year ties into if you can make your team good defensively and help out in that aspect. That's why it's a team sport even though it's an individual record. If it was just based off stats wemby would win but it isn't. It's never been that way and it will never change most likely
@the_gianni
@the_gianni 3 ай бұрын
@@itshurtt395 But he literally does what you are asking of him: He makes his team good defensively. Because when he is on the court, the Spurs are Top3 defensively. When he is off the court, they are the worst defense in the league. Doesn't that make him an amazing defensive player? That the brings the worst defensive team in the league to be top3 just by himself?
@crespybenoit8313
@crespybenoit8313 3 ай бұрын
With Gobert and Wemby plus a couple of good outside defenders like Batum, France defence at Olympics will be a nightmare to any opposition
@dyn9726
@dyn9726 3 ай бұрын
so they give it to the award to the team instead of the player? jesus christ its called Defensive "Player' Of The Year for a reason
@AlphaDwg
@AlphaDwg 3 ай бұрын
it's also called Most Valuable PLAYER but you not winning that award on a bad team either. But Wemby does have a strong argument.
@Bananasforthesoul
@Bananasforthesoul 3 ай бұрын
That’s always how they’ve done the ranking. They won’t DPOY someone who doesn’t make their team win.
@Splashbackl
@Splashbackl 3 ай бұрын
​@@Bananasforthesoulthat's stupid though, it's not wemby's fault he can't drag the spurs to the playoffs, they barely started the rebuild
@dakota8381
@dakota8381 3 ай бұрын
@@Splashbackl Okay but Gobert has almost as much defensive impact on one of the best defensive teams in the league
@truthnotfeelings
@truthnotfeelings 3 ай бұрын
I was one of the few defending Rudy when everyone was slandering his name. To me the best defensive bigs are either Rudy, AD or Jackson. But now Wemby in that conversation. Frankly he is my defensive player of the year. If the argument for Rudy is his team defence is better, then to me we gotta look at Rudy’s team mates. When he was in Utah his perimeter defenders were terrible, Rudy was constantly bailing them out. Now he has MCdaniels, Naz Reid and even Ant has taken a leap defensively. The spurs got Sochan who’s good, Osman who’s decent and Keldon who’s average, everyone else is below average or straight trash as defenders. Wemby should get it.
@TrueGuardify
@TrueGuardify 3 ай бұрын
@@nomercyinc6783 Bro wtf does that have to do with the DPOY debate HAHAHAHA
@KxngKUDA
@KxngKUDA 3 ай бұрын
​@nomercyinc6783 if they're not supposed to talk, why are they obligated to have interviews as part of their job?
@titanr6165
@titanr6165 3 ай бұрын
The difference is Gobert literally led the Jazz to a top 5 defense and to the playoffs with those horrible defenders around him. Gobert has him beat in every advanced defensive statistic he’s gonna win it this year
@Splashbackl
@Splashbackl 3 ай бұрын
​@@KxngKUDAmedia purposes, though you can't blame some players if they don't want to be on interviews all the time tbf
@leviuzumaki3903
@leviuzumaki3903 3 ай бұрын
Here’s the thing he’s ahead in blocks and it’s not only that he’s ahead in blocks it’s that he’s so far ahead in blocks that it’s not even close. Not only that but for a big man he’s very quick with his hands and gets a lot of steals as well so in my opinion he’s arguably more impactful on defense for the spurs than gobert is for the timberwolves which is saying a lot, arguably if you switched wemby and goberts teams it could be argued that wemby would have a even bigger defensive impact on that team than gobert would and that’s a very legitimate claim to make. So I say he definitely deserves to be named defensive player of the year and rookie of the year in the same season and he deserves to be the first person in nba history to have that honor just my opinion though, because gobert deserves it as well but wemby is just doing unreal defensively better than I’ve seen in a long long time.
@made13145
@made13145 3 ай бұрын
if you want to see just how bad spurs defense without wemby, spare some time watching them play against team that focus on scoring inside the paint. like Pacers yesterday. Pacers rarely go inside the paint when wemby there and when he's on the bench? oh my lord they be feasting inside the paint lmaoo.
@nomercyinc6783
@nomercyinc6783 3 ай бұрын
even with wemby they lost 19 straight games. they arent shit. ignoring that fact is moronic. thinking losing 19 straight games deserves any awards is extremely stupid.
@joshuadavis5899
@joshuadavis5899 3 ай бұрын
​@@nomercyinc6783what the hell is wrong with you 😂 I see you hating on every comment
@Vastatio
@Vastatio 3 ай бұрын
@@joshuadavis5899Wemby living rent free in his head, it’s gonna be a long 20 years for him 🤣
@Vastatio
@Vastatio 3 ай бұрын
That was funny to watch, Mathurin was the only one going at him. Haliburton avoided him at all costs 🤣
@ccbgaming6994
@ccbgaming6994 3 ай бұрын
@nomercyinc6783 You’re extremely stupid
@rehunter23
@rehunter23 3 ай бұрын
Check the Spurs defensive plus minus with and without wimby
@williamchambers5678
@williamchambers5678 3 ай бұрын
he says this in the video
@keithjoseph128
@keithjoseph128 3 ай бұрын
Check Chicago's +/- with and without Derrick Rose and tell me he should have got a single "MVP" vote.
@mhill93278
@mhill93278 3 ай бұрын
The Defensive PLAYER Of The Year award should go to the best defensive PLAYER 🤷🏽‍♂️💯
@GenerationalDisappointment
@GenerationalDisappointment 3 ай бұрын
So many people give validity to the league only awarding those who win and not those who actually deserve the individual award. Its either an individual award or it isnt, cant have it both ways. Either youre the best defender or you arent. If it isnt, change the title of the award because it wouldnt be accurate. If you have to bring anyone else up in an individual award conversation such as the rest of the team's performance, youve lost the point of the award and should reevaluate why that is. The fact people bring up the teams record as if that should have any weight means its become a group award. If you are going to take a team's performance into consideration, it should be something like "This is what the defense is ranked without this person and this is what theyre ranked with this person."
@vFrosty2K
@vFrosty2K 3 ай бұрын
STATS aside because we know statistically how good wemby is and where he ranks. JUST WATCH the games, teams play completely different when he’s on the court alone! Teams just kick it out to the three, or drive and don’t do anything and just end up dribbling the ball back out or giving it up with wembys presence. He also plays lanes so amazingly he’s a way bigger impact than Gobert idc 😭
@user-ky7le9bf2m
@user-ky7le9bf2m 3 ай бұрын
It was funny watching Curry do this, a guy who can finish around the rim as well as anyone in the league, just acted like he was running from incoming hail stones.
@AngelHerrera-zl6yw
@AngelHerrera-zl6yw 3 ай бұрын
The same thing you just credited wemby doing gobert has been doing since utah😂
@vFrosty2K
@vFrosty2K 3 ай бұрын
@@AngelHerrera-zl6yw you don’t see it as often as you do with wemby, wembys 8”0 wing span is way different than what gobert can do. Wemby plays lanes so much better and can tend to cover space way easier and quicker than someone like gobert. Wemby definitely deserves DPOY over Rudy but he won’t win it just cause record
@AngelHerrera-zl6yw
@AngelHerrera-zl6yw 3 ай бұрын
@@vFrosty2K you clearly don’t watch games then buddy there’s numerous viral clips of entire teams playing hot potato since they don’t wanna challenge rudy and he legit clapped his hands and nodded his head and they still didn’t attack him in his most viral clip😂 you do realize spurs have a worse winning % w wemby this szn than last year when they tanked for him? Please name a dpoy that has won with a negative record plz
@vFrosty2K
@vFrosty2K 3 ай бұрын
@@AngelHerrera-zl6yw bros a Rudy gobert fan 😭 I watch every single spurs game & tune into other teams here and there, but it’s obvious that Wembys a better defender then Rudy and more impactful. Like I said this is DPOY which means PLAYER not team. They don’t play worse with him, you’re dumb if you believe that, look at the spurs stats with him off of the court 😭. Wemby is BETTER than gobert go cope all you want
@Ebriel0000000
@Ebriel0000000 3 ай бұрын
Many people talk about his blocks numbers but not about the fact that most of it aren't send to the crowd (and given back to the other team) : he often keeps the ball or deflects it to a teammate, which offers an offensive possibility, so his blocks aren't only defensive but offensive. This is something a large part of the other defenders don't do at all and it's precious, even if Spurs don't do well with the balls he gave em.
@Sabe2k
@Sabe2k 3 ай бұрын
He’s gonna break the DPOY record without injury, but it won’t be this season. The team defence matters too much for DPOY
@2ClutchCee
@2ClutchCee 3 ай бұрын
So they could be generous and look at the team splits when he’s on the floor to off the floor, they’re 8th in the league in defence when he’s on and last place when he’s off by more than 3 points to the team in 29th 😂 that’s crazy.
@hightide7662
@hightide7662 3 ай бұрын
@@2ClutchCeehe’s off for half the game. Hes too young and doesn’t play enough. Hes got it next year without injury
@andregeogarcia4216
@andregeogarcia4216 3 ай бұрын
why?
@stubborndreams
@stubborndreams 3 ай бұрын
What if they go undefeated here on out
@Sabe2k
@Sabe2k 3 ай бұрын
@@stubborndreams if they have a ‘22 Celtics type defensive surge and he’s as impactful as he has been that’s fine
@blue-phoenix115
@blue-phoenix115 3 ай бұрын
You can't count his size against him. The stats speaks for itself.
@okwaleedpoetry
@okwaleedpoetry 3 ай бұрын
hes gonna be the ROY and DPOY...shout out to Tim Duncan
@999waves
@999waves 3 ай бұрын
Embid dropped like 13 points only on wemby during that 70 piece
@casperheiberg3067
@casperheiberg3067 3 ай бұрын
True - he actively avoided playing wemby inside or the entire game. Also, can we agree to refer to it as a 59 piece? coming in in garbage time up by 25 against the worst team in the league to pump up your numbers is just disgraceful.
@DETONATEDx
@DETONATEDx 3 ай бұрын
@@casperheiberg3067the amount of hate you have to have towards someone to say “ can we refer to it as 59😥” if that’s the case it’s still 59 fucking pts😂 but in REALITY He dropped 70 fucking pts , get over it
@dakota8381
@dakota8381 3 ай бұрын
@@casperheiberg3067 Oh yeah that 11 points makes a difference. clown
@madtonesbr
@madtonesbr 3 ай бұрын
People talk about Joel dodging Jokic but he's almost as scared of Wemby too
@freshfacesnj661
@freshfacesnj661 3 ай бұрын
He’s embid 🤷🏽‍♂️
@nakii4800
@nakii4800 3 ай бұрын
If he doesn’t get it we rage 🤷🏻‍♂️
@harryo82
@harryo82 3 ай бұрын
He doesn't deserve it.
@itshurtt395
@itshurtt395 3 ай бұрын
Being the best defensive player of the year ties into if you can make your team good defensively and help out in that aspect. That's why it's a team sport even though it's an individual record. If it was just based off stats wemby would win but it isn't. It's never been that way and it will never change most likely
@kejah7489
@kejah7489 3 ай бұрын
@@itshurtt395 it is individual not team when talking about DPOY
@dallafinezt3334
@dallafinezt3334 3 ай бұрын
@@kejah7489word it’s a key word “player” award not team I hate that argument
@nakii4800
@nakii4800 3 ай бұрын
@@itshurtt395 I know what you mean but me personally I think he helps the team overall because of his defense but idk…
@NATUREBOYP
@NATUREBOYP 3 ай бұрын
TEAM PERFORMANCE SHOULDNT DETERMINE JUST ONE PERSON DEFENSIVE STOPS !!!
@Bananasforthesoul
@Bananasforthesoul 3 ай бұрын
⁠Even when he’s in the court, his team still doesn’t have the best defense in the league. Gobert puts wolves at 106.1 when he’s out. Wemby puts spurs at 112.1.
@AfricanH3ro
@AfricanH3ro 3 ай бұрын
Man I really hope Wemby wins it, DPOY as a rookie would be beyond historical
@jaxsonburch-eo1vz
@jaxsonburch-eo1vz 3 ай бұрын
Gobert does not deserve this award. His team has better defensive players so of course their defensive rating is better. Look at the Spurs rating with and without Wemby. Compare that to Rudy’s on and off. Also, Wemby plays less minutes and still has more stocks. This is an individual regular season award that should not be impacted by team success.
@jean-christophefouquet9553
@jean-christophefouquet9553 3 ай бұрын
French paint at the Olympics is the real no go zone
@andregeogarcia4216
@andregeogarcia4216 3 ай бұрын
why not vote for him he is the defensive player of the year! not the team Defensive player of the year
@itshurtt395
@itshurtt395 3 ай бұрын
Being the best defensive player of the year ties into if you can make your team good defensively and help out in that aspect. That's why it's a team sport even though it's an individual record. If it was just based off stats wemby would win but it isn't. It's never been that way and it will never change most likely
@thetruth4654
@thetruth4654 3 ай бұрын
@itshurts395 Wemby being on the floor makes Spurs one of the Five best defenses in the NBA. When Wemby is of the floor Spurs is the worst defense in the league. The Spurs just suck as a team, their a tanking team trying to rebuild. (Thst says nothing on Wemby’s quality, just the team mates and lack of other stars or good veterans around Wemby)
@Bananasforthesoul
@Bananasforthesoul 3 ай бұрын
When wembenyama is out, spurs defensive rating gets to 112.1. When Gobert is out, wolves defense goes to 106.1. Not as much of a change as when wemby is out, but a monstrously low number
@obinnaodoemenam8762
@obinnaodoemenam8762 3 ай бұрын
​@@itshurtt395the jazz have always sucked
@itshurtt395
@itshurtt395 3 ай бұрын
@@thetruth4654 I not saying wemby should win or not. I am saying he 99% chance of not winning because of the things I have stated
@MNPhantom
@MNPhantom 3 ай бұрын
Yeah as a wolves fan i'd love to see gobert win.. but it's wemby and it's not close. if wemby doesn't win it's a bias against him being a rookie
@xKeegZ
@xKeegZ 3 ай бұрын
Or it’s because his team is shit.
@MNPhantom
@MNPhantom 3 ай бұрын
@@xKeegZ I mean defensive PLAYER of the year doesnt really include team performance, Or it shouldnt at least. The spurs are like a top 8 defense with wemby on the court and are like 26th without wemby on the court. Wemby all the way
@javongreen2515
@javongreen2515 3 ай бұрын
If we’re going to take into account the rest of the team for every award make a team award im so tired of guys not getting the praise they deserve because of narratives.
@indiekidd150
@indiekidd150 3 ай бұрын
I just think it’s funny watching wemby shut up all the haters that were talking so much about him being a bust … now they quietly wishing he was on their team …. The accolades gonna come….
@dakota8381
@dakota8381 3 ай бұрын
only thing II aint believe in him on is his health. Which is still the case, how long can he stayy healthy. Im praying he dont get a major injury
@indiekidd150
@indiekidd150 3 ай бұрын
@@dakota8381 I see your point but through out sports history there is always that one guy who defies the logic…. In this case the logic that has come with overly tall players like Yao Ming (foot problems) or Ralph Sampson (knee issues) …. I think wemby is that one guy that is the exception to the rule personally. But I get it, that takes a leap of faith that isn’t for everyone. It’s much easier to assume he’ll be just like the rest, injury prone… only time will tell
@symptomofsouls
@symptomofsouls 3 ай бұрын
@@indiekidd150 Saw someone explain how him being so lean somehow makes him less susceptible to certain injuries, as less weight is landing on his joints
@indiekidd150
@indiekidd150 3 ай бұрын
@@symptomofsouls yeah I think that’s key for him, ppl who say he needs to “bulk up” don’t realize that could actually hinder him… some Muscle is fine but him having a mostly lean build will insure his longevity… KD to some extent has proven you can do this and last as he’s been skinny his whole career really
@andrewmoonbeam321
@andrewmoonbeam321 3 ай бұрын
0:26 David Robinson be like, 'Nah, he's got! He knows what he's doin'. I'm outta here.'
@KJC_4real_
@KJC_4real_ 3 ай бұрын
He will get a nba all defensive first team nod
@user-ky7le9bf2m
@user-ky7le9bf2m 3 ай бұрын
This is a smart video, done well and informative, no fluff, no bs.
@smalltalkgaming
@smalltalkgaming 3 ай бұрын
The fact that the spurs go from the worst defence in the league when wembys out to a top 3 defence when wemby is playing is a DPOTY stat 😂 I don’t really watch basketball, but he has me intrigued 😂
@ItsHasooni
@ItsHasooni 3 ай бұрын
The Spurs are a top 5 defense when Wemby’s in at Center. They turn into a bottom 5 defense when he’s not in lol it’s obvious but they seem to care about wins for some reason
@Mr.sosolid
@Mr.sosolid 3 ай бұрын
If Wemby shouldn’t win DPOY (an individual accolade) because of the Spurs record then he should also not win ROTY, completely silly. This guy is having arguably one of the greatest ever rookie seasons and also one of the greatest individual defensive seasons of all time. Winning these 2 shouldn’t even be a question and if he gets to 200 Blocks and ~ 90/100 steals… yeah it’s a wrap for sure. Crazy thing is if his team fed him more he would’ve hit a lot of these milestones earlier
@Bananasforthesoul
@Bananasforthesoul 3 ай бұрын
⁠Even when he’s in the court, his team still doesn’t have the best defense in the league. Gobert puts wolves at 106.1 when he’s out. Wemby puts spurs at 112.1.
@Mr.sosolid
@Mr.sosolid 3 ай бұрын
No one said he is. But when he’s on the floor Spurs have a top 8 defence, when he’s not they are worst in league as stated in the video.
@Mr.sosolid
@Mr.sosolid 3 ай бұрын
As stated in the video bro literally makes up 80% of the Spurs stock… so essentially he is his own defensive team. Timberwolve defence is anchored by Gobert but don’t understate the defensive help coming from Mike Conley, McDaniels, Kyle Anderson etc.
@xKeegZ
@xKeegZ 3 ай бұрын
Chet is ROTY.
@trenchant.t8261
@trenchant.t8261 3 ай бұрын
Spurs were last in defensive rating last year ,with wemby they are top 6 as a rookie !!
@nomercyinc6783
@nomercyinc6783 3 ай бұрын
defensive ratings dont mean shit when they have the second to worst record in all of basketball. losing 19 straight is fucking embarrassing. nobody a part of a 19 lose stretch deserves any kind of awards.
@johnnydiabetes6563
@johnnydiabetes6563 3 ай бұрын
@@nomercyinc6783so if you put lebron on a team with middle schoolers he shouldn’t be an all star
@FruktSalladMedFrukt
@FruktSalladMedFrukt 3 ай бұрын
​@@johnnydiabetes6563there are no middle schoolers in the NBA. Terrible example. Try again.
@johnnydiabetes6563
@johnnydiabetes6563 3 ай бұрын
@@FruktSalladMedFrukt doesn’t matter point is being on a bad team shouldn’t stop you from winning awards
@yusufyilmaz6623
@yusufyilmaz6623 3 ай бұрын
NBA logic: Players can’t win MVP because the rest of the team is too good Also: Wemby can’t win DPOY because Gobert’s teammates are just better
@user-ky7le9bf2m
@user-ky7le9bf2m 3 ай бұрын
It's good logic. MVP is based on a player having the highest % of responsibility for the success of a successful team vs the other players on the team. Teams with multiple high level players won't have a stand out even if they dominate the league. When Nash won B2B MVPs, the team was rolling good then Nash got injured, they really suffered until he returned at which time they recovered. On the flip side, when Russ Westbrook went down, KD carried the team to the playoffs and ran off a lot of wins, doing better than they were with Russ, so it made KD the MVP. Russ won the MVP through media hype surrounding the inorganic triple doubles the team scammed for him by letting him rebound and living in a one pass one shot offense. Kawhi Leonard won DPOY because he had very visibly great showings against teams like the Warriors, and he was so far above even Draymond that it was impossible to not give it to him. The Spurs had one of the best defenses in the league and Kawhi was the main reason. You saw Lebron's face when Kawhi entered the game. If Spurs had the worse defense in the league, Kawhi's defense wouldn't have mattered. You can be the best but be in a situation where it doesn't impact the outcome. Likely you won't be awarded anything.
@MsGuigui35
@MsGuigui35 3 ай бұрын
I'm so hyped as a french, feeling impressed and proud at the same time
@JasonAtlas
@JasonAtlas 3 ай бұрын
It's so nice to see wemby putting up record defense. Take that grumbly ones.
@cyuzuzoaleks
@cyuzuzoaleks 3 ай бұрын
if Wemby stays healthy, we’re probably watching the greatest player to ever play the game in the making
@Jagzin909
@Jagzin909 3 ай бұрын
Modern Jam u so goated bruh. U always got the fire uploads every day. Keep it pushin.
@julianbanega8352
@julianbanega8352 3 ай бұрын
A stat I would like to see is how many times a player defended by Wemby decides not to shoot and passes the ball instead
@miguelosorio620
@miguelosorio620 3 ай бұрын
Yeah but the thing is the spurs ar one of the worst defensive team when wemby is not on the floor, but is a top 5 defensive team when he’s playing. That stat is so unbelievable
@ramonpunsalang3397
@ramonpunsalang3397 3 ай бұрын
Surround him with decent shooters, he'll average double figures in assists so triple-double games will be easy.
@user-zn1eb9jw8p
@user-zn1eb9jw8p 3 ай бұрын
Hot take: Wemby will be the all time leader in blocked shots
@audiocassette2704
@audiocassette2704 3 ай бұрын
Defensive Team of the Year and Defensive Player of the year - NBA should consider 2 awards
@JUNKHEAD224
@JUNKHEAD224 3 ай бұрын
If he doesn't get DPOY the NBA is broken
@itshurtt395
@itshurtt395 3 ай бұрын
Being the best defensive player of the year ties into if you can make your team good defensively and help out in that aspect. That's why it's a team sport even though it's an individual record. If it was just based off stats wemby would win but it isn't. It's never been that way and it will never change most likely
@AlphaDwg
@AlphaDwg 3 ай бұрын
it's not just his blocks at the rim that makes Wemby special. It's his agility and footspeed that lets him defend smaller players on the perimeter and use his insane length to block jump shots. wouldn't be surprised if a third of his blocks are on jump shots. When he's guarding you it's almost impossible to shoot over him and if you drive there is no chance you making the shot at the rim. He's an eraser.
@atbp828
@atbp828 3 ай бұрын
It's an individual award not a team award, whether his team is winning or not ... So give the DPOY award already to Wembanyama, he deserves it 100%.
@_YourFlyIsOpen
@_YourFlyIsOpen 3 ай бұрын
I don’t understand how overall Team defense should be used for or against anyone in an individual award.
@MrGuapz
@MrGuapz 3 ай бұрын
We also gotta remember that wemby can guard the perimeter bettter than gobert. But gobert being on the #2 defensive team will probably put him over.
@manuelndundu6609
@manuelndundu6609 3 ай бұрын
If they don’t give Wemby the DPOY, then they should rename it DTOY, it’s just ridiculous
@rovertovargas4750
@rovertovargas4750 3 ай бұрын
I concur that Gobert's gameplay is one-dimensional; his defensive effectiveness dwindles once he's removed from his comfort zone. Conversely, Victor isn't confined to a stationary zone; he adapts dynamically, displaying performance levels not characteristic of a rookie but rather akin to a top 20 or even top 15 player this season. While some may argue that the Spurs aren't contenders-and indeed, no single player can guarantee victory-a glance at the scoreboard during Victor's customary rest periods reveals this truth. Consequently, team victories shouldn't sway the voting process. Instead, the decisive factor should be the defensive pressure exerted by a player while on the court.
@gms9779
@gms9779 3 ай бұрын
Wemby loves the game more than any other player in the NBA..You can see it by the way he plays..Offensively and Defensively..Jordan skills with Kareem height..He looks like a ringer against the other players..
@manuelcorvobelda1831
@manuelcorvobelda1831 3 ай бұрын
The center position right now is overstacked with top tier talent: Jokic, Embiid, Davis, Wemby, Sabonis, Sengun, Gobert, Mobley, Porzingis, Adebayo, Chet... they are starting to rival the guard position
@bossmafia9008
@bossmafia9008 3 ай бұрын
Mobley isn't the center though, that's Jarrett Allen
@blablablaa14
@blablablaa14 3 ай бұрын
Mobley is a center that plays out of position cause they have two great centers@@bossmafia9008
@crystalizedExposed
@crystalizedExposed 3 ай бұрын
@@bossmafia9008 maybe big men would be more accurate
@vfgoditachyyy8446
@vfgoditachyyy8446 3 ай бұрын
They didnt start rivaling the guard position. It‘s a league dominated by big already. The last 3 mvps big men. The top 3 players are big men. The last two fmvps were big men
@bossmafia9008
@bossmafia9008 3 ай бұрын
@@crystalizedExposed True, he could play Center but I'm just saying he's not it rn cause of Jarrett Allen being on the same team as him
@Chrriss2000
@Chrriss2000 3 ай бұрын
It’s called defense player of the year, it’s not talking about best defensive team of the year 🤦🏾‍♂️
@MrJackWorse
@MrJackWorse 3 ай бұрын
Love your stuff, man! And yeah, he's absolutely that guy.
@TheLazyP
@TheLazyP 3 ай бұрын
Wemby deserves that award with his historic season and the historic numbers he put's up. I'm sick of the way these awards are being given and how the biased US-commentators create ceratin narratives that influence the awards. I'm losing my faith in the ability of the majority of the American public to judge on basketball. That's why there's no US-player in the top 5 at the moment and why the last 5 MVP were non-American. And this year it'll be no different...
@eddydesir7702
@eddydesir7702 3 ай бұрын
His raw numbers are impressive, but not the most impressive. His on vs off the court numbers for the spurs defense is amazing
@jspurs22
@jspurs22 3 ай бұрын
If he don’t get defensive player award something is wrong with this league
@GoosbyGoosby
@GoosbyGoosby 3 ай бұрын
Gobert will win it because he’s on a winning team even tho Wemby deserves it but the spurs suck
@itshurtt395
@itshurtt395 3 ай бұрын
Being the best defensive player of the year ties into if you can make your team good defensively and help out in that aspect. That's why it's a team sport even though it's an individual record. If it was just based off stats wemby would win but it isn't. It's never been that way and it will never change most likely
@Drew_2308
@Drew_2308 3 ай бұрын
dpoy is not a team award, give it to Wemby imo, he's that good and he's earned it, he's better than rudy
@ClanVirtuality1
@ClanVirtuality1 3 ай бұрын
the defensive impact of wemby is night n day compared to gobert, it's not defensive team of the year award bru, wemby gets it, no need to even argue, just him standing here makes entire teams shake at the idea of going in the paint
@chasejones3076
@chasejones3076 3 ай бұрын
his stats per 36 mins have to be insane
@TheDarkOne3141
@TheDarkOne3141 3 ай бұрын
Bruh wembys blocks look like actual goaltends. That’s crazy 💀
@Allyis2
@Allyis2 3 ай бұрын
I mean it should be this simple. Is Victor a better defender than rudy? yes. Did he play defense better than rudy this year? yes. Key words DEFENSIVE PLAYER of the YEAR .
@Nefariousbig
@Nefariousbig 3 ай бұрын
He's not That Guy... He's several That Guys. He's Those Dudes.
@Lauren-zd3vk
@Lauren-zd3vk 3 ай бұрын
Well deserved!!!!
@coolmandre8622
@coolmandre8622 3 ай бұрын
The fact two Frenchmen a e competing for the award is crazy
@vianouche1
@vianouche1 3 ай бұрын
🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷
@garebaregoof4226
@garebaregoof4226 3 ай бұрын
They should base this metric on how much the team suffers when the player is on and off the court. Spurs have great D when he is on and horrid D when is he off.
@alanduff1054
@alanduff1054 3 ай бұрын
It's called defensive PLAYER of the year so Timberwolves TEAM defense shouldn't have ANYTHING to DO with an INDIVIDUAL achievement
@jeremyguerrero9932
@jeremyguerrero9932 3 ай бұрын
your channel gonna blow up soon! top quality content 🔥
@lifeofholy
@lifeofholy 3 ай бұрын
SO SEASON MVP DEFENSIVE MVP AND ROTF ALL IN ONEEEee ??? ❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥
@blastoiseddr
@blastoiseddr 3 ай бұрын
Man, that block at 2:15 would shatter my soul
@jacobjones7994
@jacobjones7994 3 ай бұрын
I can see him going for a 20piece block game in future
@vulture27fm
@vulture27fm 3 ай бұрын
I doubt Wemby will win DPOY but 5 years from now people will have it on the list of stupidest snubs ever. He's clearly the most impactful player in the league on defense.
@bucookkie1217
@bucookkie1217 3 ай бұрын
This kid is just so impressive and fun to watch.. damn
@fantasticfrankie
@fantasticfrankie 3 ай бұрын
Isn't this the guy who has more block shots that points scored on every tripple double?
@TheMilitiaGuy
@TheMilitiaGuy 3 ай бұрын
You gotta look at the Spurs team defense when he is on the court vs when he is offer the court. He is the DPOY.
@DifferentGencode
@DifferentGencode 3 ай бұрын
He should be because it’s called defensive player 🤦🏿‍♂️😭😭😔
@felipecastanha9161
@felipecastanha9161 2 ай бұрын
I'd like tp raise the point that whilst all those rookies were playing basketball Mark Eaton was literally in automechanic apprenticeship
@IzzaZone365
@IzzaZone365 3 ай бұрын
Honestly to me it's called defensive player of the year and not defensive team of the year or defensive top in conference of the year. Honestly if he doesn't get defensive player of the year until he retires unless there is a 7'8" players coming into the league... He should get it every year baring injuries..
@paulobuenaflor5192
@paulobuenaflor5192 3 ай бұрын
Imagine Wemby not winning DPOY and ROY
@VanIyke
@VanIyke 3 ай бұрын
People need to understand, it's defensive PLAYER of the year and not defensive TEAM of the year. On that alone, there's no controversy. It's Wemby by a mile
@cyrilleribeiro5030
@cyrilleribeiro5030 3 ай бұрын
I love Rudy and his team is really good defensively this season but individually Victor this season is so impressive! It's like Chet Holmgren in the race for rookie of the year, his team is much better than the Spurs this season but individually Victor is 2 tones above! It’s the same thing for the DPOY trophy! Give the 2 trophies to Wembanyama he deserves it so much he is alone on his planet.
@jakelogan7767
@jakelogan7767 3 ай бұрын
Difference between just blocks and steals then actually playing defensive and running the defense
@Chrisinlgy
@Chrisinlgy 3 ай бұрын
lol David Robinson smiling at Wemby like a proud dad😂
@MooreCo
@MooreCo 3 ай бұрын
Give the man the award!
@deeziebaby7241
@deeziebaby7241 3 ай бұрын
Awarda aren't given. They are earned. Get that mentality out of your head or life is gonna be very disappointing
@MooreCo
@MooreCo 3 ай бұрын
⁠@@deeziebaby7241😂you’re going to be very disappointed if you depend on others for validation! Awards are stupid - Wemby is DPOY, no question. Whether or not the NBA gives him the stupid award is a completely different question.
@deeziebaby7241
@deeziebaby7241 3 ай бұрын
@@MooreCo irony at its best
@fluxszs
@fluxszs 3 ай бұрын
@@MooreCo rudy has a top 2 defensive rating and is the best rim protector in the league by far.. steals and blocks arent everything bro
@allusion1232
@allusion1232 3 ай бұрын
earn that man the award! does that sound better to you? why focus on semantics you understand his point.@@deeziebaby7241
@lankavelli6666
@lankavelli6666 3 ай бұрын
I like the microphone upgrade gang
@jasonholloway4162
@jasonholloway4162 3 ай бұрын
You break down the PLAYERS NUMBERS of the past DPOY past 6 years. His numbers Trumps those in 61 games…BUT it’s a team stat for DPOY, the voting is a joke… just give DPOY to the best defensive player on the number one defensive team then. Fucc personal numbers right!!
@leevenable8628
@leevenable8628 3 ай бұрын
Well let's just see where his numbers are at when the season is almost over. His stats might be so unreal they can't be overlooked
@laszlobandi6456
@laszlobandi6456 3 ай бұрын
defense is not just personal stats. gobert arranges the other guys too, that's why it took a while to get used to the new team, because they gave up so much they expected instant results, but havent saw anyone complaining this year, they are scary af.
@SpursPorVida
@SpursPorVida 3 ай бұрын
The league really need to rethink how they giving these awards - what and when does team standings come into play with individual awards. ROY and DPOY-- Wemby clearly gonna push the league guidelines.Even how they select the defensive teams, if they give it to Rudy the 1st d-team will Wemby be relegated to the 2nd d-team? Know that Wemby isn't just a center, he is a power forward and a point/guard too, OMG!!! Wemby deserves the DPOY! He is making defense fun again!
@juniorrose5138
@juniorrose5138 3 ай бұрын
YOU JUST PULL OUT THE REALEST COMMENT ON KZbin EVER. You DAMN RIGHT, will that mean that wemby with WAY more DEFENSIVE STATS and IMPACT THAN OTHER PLAYERS WHO WON DPOY (IN THE LAST 15 YEARS) will be in the 2ND D-TEAM ?????????? That would be insane i don’t think people realize it….. THIS WILL TOP AARON GORDON DUNK CONTESTS ROBBERIES
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