Check out the Viking Arm here: masscaproducts.com/pages/viking-arm?aff=5 (affiliate link)
@jonpeplinski3 жыл бұрын
What’s the difference between the red and black one?
@kevindesilva80303 жыл бұрын
@@jonpeplinski Ones red ones black
@731Woodworks3 жыл бұрын
No mechanical difference. The red one is a special edition
@matthewwayne9506 Жыл бұрын
@@kevindesilva8030 😊
@kevindesilva1311 Жыл бұрын
@@matthewwayne9506 just saying ! Mind you I think they are very expensive and a bit over rated for what they are are . I made something very similar around 20 years ago from a car jack it can take 1500kg , is more stable and there is no chance of releasing the wrong button and have everything collapse on you (which I have seen happen.
@Blingem14 Жыл бұрын
There is no way I can justify $205 for ONE of these. It’s a great tool but this feels like price gouging. I would need 2 of them. I can do so many other things with $410. I love quality tools but I feel like they’re missing the market with that price.
@mcdonamw2 жыл бұрын
I know this is old, but I had a need for these, but they are ridiculously expensive. $205 for a single one? Outrageous.
@Killmode293 жыл бұрын
$199 each. Yeaaaa nah I’m good thanks.
@44dton2 жыл бұрын
whats your back worth?
@Killmode292 жыл бұрын
@@44dton valid point
@alexfrederick90192 жыл бұрын
I use airbags to lift stuff up to half a ton, they've got bigger ones. It looks like you could make something similar to that viking arm with a caulk gun. The big caulk guns push a lot harder than people realize, and with a mig, a cut off wheel, and some scrap for plates and gussets I think it can be done pretty readily.
@TeddyR_Official2 жыл бұрын
There are dozens of similar items in Amazon at 1/8 the price. Granted they are not as good, but definitely will do the job. For around $50, you get a pair already. Of course you get what you pay for. But if you break these to lift/pry a very heavy object, you’re most probably using the wrong tool.
@davehorn14223 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but not for that price or close to it...I do enjoy your videos though.
@Tboiy5553 жыл бұрын
Come on Matt, would you pay for this yourself? I always loved your down to earth videos, even saying no thanks to a 100$ saw blade over the Diablo blades. This tool is awesome no doubt but I’d not be buying one myself. Stick with reviews you would buy if it were your own money, I have a feeling this on is not one.
@samhoskins37563 жыл бұрын
I love this tool, however at $200 a piece, I just can’t afford it now! Future purchase wish list!
@NitrogenoxTheQuick3 жыл бұрын
Getting older, alone in the workshop or at a clients place, heavy things need to be micro adjusted. This is JUST what I need! Perfect companion for me as a plumber/craftsman! Thank you!
@michaelmckinney15193 жыл бұрын
These are awesome, BUT…$200 each! I have no use for cheap tools but these guys are trying to beat Snap-On for over-priced tools! Get the at 1/2 that price and maybe.
@bobvrnr3 жыл бұрын
Wife sitting on sofa at 15:15, "No heavy lifting." 😳😳😳 You are a brave soul.
@thesniffer2 жыл бұрын
How about reviewing the $20 ones from Ebay. I'm sure these knockoffs don't lift 330 lbs but for most uses like you've used in examples here perhaps they would be fine.
@SWS-LINK2 жыл бұрын
fakes do not have a reliable fixation when lifting. And you can not smoothly lower the load. They are really dangerous - it is checked up on own experience.
@joshortiz15763 жыл бұрын
Being disabled this would most definitely be helpful in many different ways!
@scuba31643 жыл бұрын
I have to agree with some of the postings below... way over priced!!!! A 2 pack -$400!!! My guess is you are aware that's it is over priced which is why you seem to avoid discussing the cost. Love your channel, even downloaded some of your plans but this video just left me feeling turned off to their product.
@erichelm43393 жыл бұрын
I like it but $200 is wat too much. and you need at least two.
@Honestblades3 жыл бұрын
I was dead set on ordering a couple of them, until I clicked on the link. I've experienced sticker shock before, but that price really caught me off guard. It's a hard pass for me. It really looks like an awesome tool, but not for that kind of money. Heck I've bought running vehicles for what two of those cost.
@chadstout13 жыл бұрын
Hey Derrick, I found a new pair on Amazon for $29.95. Prob needs accessories but the two Vikings aren't killing me!!
@TeamICOS3 жыл бұрын
@@chadstout1 The cheap ones on Amazon appear to be knockoffs (probably Chinese). Do you feel the knockoffs work just as well?
@chadstout13 жыл бұрын
@@TeamICOS Hey Michael. I cancelled the order I created on Amazon so no experience here.
@utooboobnoob3 жыл бұрын
Massca told me that those products were a scam. I understand knock-offs, but scam? Like you won’t receive the product?
@utooboobnoob3 жыл бұрын
@chad stout @michael Flanagin Contact Massca and tell them what I did - the Viking Arm is too expensive.
@grannysquareswagonwheels26043 жыл бұрын
Very cool as a woman I could find a lot of uses for this, I tend to try and do too much on my own.
@dakotalandandcattle2 жыл бұрын
As a woman, who is equivalent to a 10 year old dog, I can promise these pay for themselves. I had a 500 lb woodstove that I could not find a mover. I finally found a piano mover who would remove it if I could get it onto a furniture mover. I used two Viking Arms and continued to raise and block until I could slide a mover underneath. Second use was getting a refrigerator installed in a tight fit, where the installer thought they would have to cut out tge tile to remove the old. I brought out tge Viking Arms and they were able to lift the old refrigerator over the tile lip. Each use paid for the Viking Arms and it's reassuring to know uou have a tool like this incase things don't go well.
@crzyworm6233 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing the price tag is to cover their marketing costs. I'm constantly seeing social media ads for these. Looks like some paid comments as well. Anyone who is into DIY and watching KZbin videos would see the price tag of these and give a big pass no matter how useful they appear. You basically need 2 (400$) for most tasks you'd really want these for. Even if a 2 pack cost $200, they would still be overpriced. Sorry but I doubt you would buy one of these yourself, no less two.
@Budkeywest3 жыл бұрын
Great Video...great tool...but $199 for one...? Hope I win!
@abelesparza60593 жыл бұрын
Great video! Solid and useful product, but at $200... It's a hard pass
@matthewgaylen28273 жыл бұрын
omg... they're $200 each?!? Totally cool, but I'm not in a tax bracket...
@lyniclee83293 жыл бұрын
Nice tool, $200 each isn't happening! Quick release seems way to dangerous, I'll wait for the hydraulic version.
@nigelboucher20143 жыл бұрын
Looks great but at $200 each no thanks. But hey it gave me a idea. Maybe with some alterations to a car Jack 🧐
@Terkinstein3 жыл бұрын
I was set to buy but damn I got turned off by the price. But wow it looks great! I'm an aircraft mech so you gotta know I appreciate tools. I'm actually out on workers comp right now struggling to recover from two surgeries from a fall at work, and waiting on a third. I trust you that it's a well made tool. Those are like Snap-On or Facom prices. I can't afford those brands either. But I bet they'd be great for disabled people for sure.
@chuckmaddox67252 жыл бұрын
Billy Mays would be proud :)
@sinsofvorador3 жыл бұрын
Holy crap. $200. Na. I'll wait on a cheaper version. I just can't swing that.
@MasscaProducts3 жыл бұрын
Happy we could partner up with you, Matt! Excited to giveaway a limited edition RED Viking Arm - Good luck to all those who enter! 💪
@utooboobnoob3 жыл бұрын
As everyone has said, it looks like a super tool that is almost insultingly expensive. Drop the price to $100 each and you might sell some. Make them $100 a pair and you’ll sell a ton.
@bswinter23 жыл бұрын
I would LOVE to have a few of them... But at $200 each, I will be purchasing zero of them.
@bigt333 жыл бұрын
Very nice job again with the product review Matt ! The Viking arm does appear to be incredibly useful ! I also wanted to say Thank you for the extreme honesty, the fact that you expressed what you felt were slight imperfections was very cool ! Matt thats why the woodworking community relates to you so well. #HONEST #STRAIGHTSHOOTER
@davidkeetz3 жыл бұрын
just a few seconds into this video and I already want one....(or four)..such a great invention. oh dang....that price though.
@731Woodworks3 жыл бұрын
lol
@randycraig49303 жыл бұрын
Wow nice handy tool. Price is way out of my budget I’m on old age pension. Sure could use this tool though.
@tjsummer293 жыл бұрын
$200 for one really!! They are way over priced
@mrskipdiggidy27252 жыл бұрын
Love your shirt! Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven
@avelinileva2 жыл бұрын
Great tool but 200$ for one that is crazy
@deaddadd3 жыл бұрын
$200? I'll pass
@stevesico3 жыл бұрын
So this tool was $200 now it's 2 for $37 on Amazon.. What gives?
@731Woodworks3 жыл бұрын
See 21:03 in the video about fakes kzbin.info/www/bejne/rmHNd4pmm9qFlbM
@snycustomworks73903 жыл бұрын
WOW 😱 makes any big project easy... 😍😍😍 specially girls like us... 💪
@brentfrench7523 жыл бұрын
Nice to have, but I’ll stick with air bag lifts as they’re far cheaper and will basically work the same as the lift.
@FrankATracy4 ай бұрын
In the future I hope you’ll do a comparison video of the Viking Arm vs the Irwin unit vs the Stanley unit vs at least one of the better quality knockoffs like the heavy duty (220 kg) unit by Daytona. Thanks!
@AlaskaTony2 жыл бұрын
the XL version is called a Hi Lift Jack
@kkehoe53 жыл бұрын
I found your missing screw. At 8:33 it is on top of your caster. You see it move when the bench is lifted.
@731Woodworks3 жыл бұрын
lol yup
@tomzahlman11563 жыл бұрын
I miss your build videos.
@qinarizonaful3 жыл бұрын
Hi Matt! New to find your channel. I have ordered 3 Viking arms to lift a freezer for service to the leaking drain tube, as visualized a crack in one, as it is not accessible. I will be using 8x6 inch lumber to lower the freezer on, while I reach underneath. Now this may seem crazy, remember that I would have to turn off the freezer, unload the freezer, tilt it on its side, service the broken drain tube, tilt the freezer back up, wait 24 hours with food in ice chests or in a spare freezer, while freon settled, and restart the freezer, and wait for the freezer to cool, and reload the food. I have calculated that the Arms will be placed two (on hard points) on each side toward the front, and one in the back to tri-lift the 800 odd pounds slowly and evenly to 8 inches. Don't know how others would approach this perplexing problem? Sure that others will be surprised at cost, but after this first use, I'm sure the 3 units will continue to pay for themselves. Thanks for demo on reaching max weight!! Thanks for the inspiration Matt!
@pinnacleservices66713 жыл бұрын
Can you autograph the red Viking arm if I win?
@731Woodworks3 жыл бұрын
Sure!
@garyderuiter17803 жыл бұрын
So I bought a kreg 4 I couldn’t afford the 5 but hopefully when I start making some stuff I will be able to buy the better kreg jig and upgrade my other tools. Ordered some z clips bought a grr-ripper for my table saw as well
@HowIDoThingsDIY3 жыл бұрын
You're going to have to pay ME for two tickets to this gun show! Haha. That's a pretty cool tool. Nice video.
@731Woodworks3 жыл бұрын
lol
@derRoteKampfflieger Жыл бұрын
I'd LOVE to talk to the company head. If these comments aren't 100% indicative of the money lost I can't imagine what else they need. Made in Norway. Perhaps this is a case study why products are made in China as the cost of living in Norway is expensive.
@dennisschulze4393 жыл бұрын
Massca Products did get back to me just now. I retract what I said.
@davem44235 ай бұрын
Great tool, yes its expensive.....but theres nothing even close in strength on the market, i work alone most of the time, ive used it to hold up gates , level doors , kitchen cabinets & even to lift a washing machine . cost wise its saved getting an extra worker in many times , so looking at it that way it paid for itself in a day , especially at uk labour rates of £250+ per day for a decent tradesperson, great review too , im subscribed .
@rikroberts3 жыл бұрын
I could see this as being really useful for those of us with back issues.
@Blingem14 Жыл бұрын
There are now newer designs on Amazon copying these. They are all metal design. I can get 2 of them for less than $80. Viking Arm priced themselves out of the market .
@cheryltaylor13223 жыл бұрын
Massca did good!
@houstonbrimmage44173 жыл бұрын
Hey man just want to tell you I enjoy your content.youve taught me a lot. As a veteran wood working has become a type of therapy. I just wanted to tell you thank you.
@brianmosse3 жыл бұрын
perfect for adjusting my laser level
@FrankATracy4 ай бұрын
Not all knockoffs are bad. I did a lot of hunting until I found some that appeared really well built on Amazon. Got 4 of two different brands for about $60. Are they in the league of the Viking Arm. Of course not! But for the small jobs I need them for, they are invaluable. But it takes quite awhile to find good ones. Love em! My experience with knock off comes from this. In the photography world the best and most highly regarded twin lens reflex cameras (TLR’s) were the Rolleiflex. But it cost thousands of dollars. So I started with the cheap Chinese TLR called PearlRiver. Maybe $75 brand new back in the late 1980’s. Don’t remember. May have been more. Loved the format and but hated the camera. Extremely difficult to move the knobs and other problems. Then I moved up to the Chinese Seagull. Wonderful camera. Brand new was about $90. I used to shoot weddings with them back in the 90’s and got excellent results. I even have one on display here next to my recliner in our living room. Then I got the “better” Japanese Yashica Mat 124-G. Hundreds of dollars. Hated the camera. Knobs were difficult to move and other problems. But it was used and I may have just gotten a lemon. I finally moved up to used Japanese Mamiya C3’s made in the early 1960’s. I finally found my ultimate TLR without spending thousands for the Rolleiflex. So if you really look and study over the different units, you may just find something great without going broke. That being said, I may still get the Viking Arm units one day if my needs change and I need them for bigger projects and I knew I could trust the weight capacity ratings, and how well it’s built. Excellent review! Love your videos!
@FrankATracy4 ай бұрын
Another thing to remember is that EVERY tool ever made is, was, or will be a knockoff, OR will have a knockoff made of it. Every tool has a first person who invented it. Sometimes the original remains the best, but often a knockoff of the original is eventually made as well or better than the original. This applies to most everything in life that was ever invented. Of course many knockoffs are just junk and are sold to scam the buyer. But patient searching will often pay off.
@GregMorphis3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the opportunity! Great video! - from a fellow Arkansan :)
@Mighty_Mik3 Жыл бұрын
Hello. Viking arm is great, if not only that price for set of 2.. One offtopic question, does your plans mister are only in imperial measurement or metric too?
@NZAllblacks263 жыл бұрын
oh maaaaan, that pallet trick would be super helpful with my lack of space. Thanks for the share!
@diydaddoes97103 жыл бұрын
I really could have used this on a project I was working on yesterday.
@custommadecrafts12713 жыл бұрын
Always the way isnt it 😅
@richardwaters2935 Жыл бұрын
You didn't actually lift the refrigerator. Because it won't.
@cswilliams293 жыл бұрын
It's like a miniature Hi-Lift Jack, except I could buy 2 Hi-lifts for the same price and I could lift a truck...
@iratevagabond2043 жыл бұрын
Except you got like 3" between the lift wedge and the ground on a high lift. The viking arm lift plates sit flush with the base and both are 3, 5, or 6mm thick depending on the base plate you put on it. It also has a much smaller lift increment. Idk. Not really an apples to apples comparison. You're spot on about the price though. 200 bucks. . . Yikes. Must be marketing to the Woodpeckers people.
@cswilliams293 жыл бұрын
@@iratevagabond204 I was being facetious. Obviously it is not an apples to apples comparison. I was more pointing out the price point. Matt is always talking about woodworking on a budget and is now doing a review on a tool that while looks handy and I would definitely use if someone gave me a handful, I would never pay $200.00 APIECE for.
@iratevagabond2043 жыл бұрын
@@cswilliams29 Apologies, I meant no offense. I thought, perhaps, you weren't aware if the mechanical difference between the Viking Arm and Hi-Lift. I just thought i'd help you see the difference. Again, I agree on the cost completely. If you sub contract, you can get tools such as these for free a lot of time. I do custom cabinetry, built ins, and fine furniture; I mostly use hand tools. I got hire a couple months back to build in a breakfast nook into a house someone was flipping. When I finished with that, they asked me if I could do some custom thresholds and doors. I pointed out that I normally don't do doors, but I was confident I could take care of it, but I'd need another person to give me a hand, or to pick up some door clamps to take care of it. I said "okay" and told me to shoot him a receipt. Got myself two free viking arms. Did the same thing back in april or may last year with some cool 4 way clamps made by woodpeckers. I love my Clampzillas. lol
@guybowers90943 жыл бұрын
Those would definitely come in handy you came up with some really good uses for it. Got my interest up even more, will get me a couple of those to install the drywall in my new shop
@jameswalsh50233 жыл бұрын
Neat tool, but let's be real. That wasn't a review, that was an ad.
@markhilderbrand82043 жыл бұрын
Half way through I'm like wait is it 2am? this is an infomercial.
@makermark673 жыл бұрын
Great review. Very cool tool. Thanks for the opportunity!!
@mishellekochel45103 жыл бұрын
As always, another great video and product for those that need it!! Pros, cons, and company detail. Contrary to the naysayer, I'm glad you show things that COULD be very helpful to your viewers but you yourself may not purchase. This may be a pricey item, and you may not need it, but you can see by the comments that you have some disabled, solo, and not so muscular workers that could really use it and you brought it to us. Thank you and keep up the GREAT work.
@johnwenglewski8407 Жыл бұрын
It might be nice if they put a scale on the arm of the tool to use it for spacing. Maybe metric on one side & imperial on the opposite?
@astronome923 жыл бұрын
Wow! This is truly The Tool! Thank you!
@renek20507 ай бұрын
Die Teile scheinen ja gut zu sein , aber 150 Euro für einen ist verdammt happig. Das ist mir zu teuer also muss eine andere Lösung her. Danke für das Video👍✌️
@hewettcb3 жыл бұрын
After watching your Viking arm clamp review , I went to the page to see the price to buy the item and was surprised . As you spoke , others have the same product on Fb and other pages to a price of 19.99 ,. the manufacture price was quite different . I too will have to wait to purchase a couple of them later in time. But your videos are good and keep up the good subject content.
@ryankoller3 жыл бұрын
I bought a set of the ones sold on fb. The ads used pictures of the real viking arms, so i assumed it would at least be a close knockoff. I was way off. After waiting about 6 weeks for them to show up, it was almost comical how bad they were. They are about 6” tall and completely useless due to the alignment being so far off, the lifting and support feet being so small, and the mechanism barely being able to hold any weight.
@HoneyHollowHomestead3 жыл бұрын
Oh NO! I think I got scammed! I ordered from an advertisement that was on one of your videos (I know you have no control over the ads). Did not tell me till I had placed the order. It's coming form china! 😭
@Redthumb453 жыл бұрын
I’ll get a pair as soon as the price goes under $100 a pair.
@rsantos153 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Very great tips
@rodpotts63173 жыл бұрын
They are kinda expensive but glad you got your hands on it . Been interested in them after seeing adds.
@jivey16 ай бұрын
Wow the weight they can lift by just using your hand is insane
@Damon_Barber3 жыл бұрын
Great product review! 👊👊👊
@731Woodworks3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@steampunk80363 жыл бұрын
Clamps: I appreciate you bringing these new and innovative products to my attention. Your review was very thorough. By the way, I listened to the podcast with your personal testimony. Awesome! I didn't know you were a cop. I really appreciate your service to the community. God bless you and yours. -Rick, USMC
@731Woodworks3 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir
@chadstout13 жыл бұрын
I'm totally STOKED Matt! Amazon is selling a PAIR for $29.95!!!!! Go figure. Dollars to donuts its some kind of mistake, so I grabbed 'em! I'm coming up for back surgery so these Viking products are going to be absolute lifesavers. Just like you are man. Pointing me in the right direction is invaluable. My wife and I are going into business and I'm a good woodworker, but brother, you are going to make me better! God Bless, hi to Mrs. 731 too!
@chadstout13 жыл бұрын
OK, so I hear you at the end of the video about fake products and I think the Viking Arm I found on Amazon is counterfeit. Cancelled the order. No tolerance for stealing of any kind. For crying out loud, it's against a Commandment!
@chadstout13 жыл бұрын
Hey Matt- more on the counterfeit "Viking Arm" tools on Amazon.....There are pages and pages of these knock-offs on Amazon and the violations of copyright and patent are numerous by many companies and individuals. Amazon was shocked at this! When I showed them the obvious differences in photos and that the counterfeits were not only stealing the name of the tool, but using Maasca's photos of authentic products for their own advertising, the rep escalated the issue. SO- maybe one source of theft is gone, but so many others exist. Should I call them all? :-))
@bobsmith6932 жыл бұрын
I want to sign up for the Vicking tool giveaway, site said it was over. However your blog says it doesn’t end till May 18, am I seeing something wrong?
@731Woodworks2 жыл бұрын
It's over. Sorry
@thefamilyoffuntfof81523 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Will be getting a few of these 🙂👍🏻
@robertmcevoy243 жыл бұрын
What a great tool a extra set of hands in many situations. Matt I was however waiting for you to say “ but wait there’s more” 👊🏻
@Cameron28743 жыл бұрын
Amazing bit of kit but ridiculously overpriced. Shame as people will just start buying knockoffs which is already out there already.
@markhilderbrand82043 жыл бұрын
Holy Smokes &200 each before tax and shipping so $400 for a pair! A 3 ton car jack with jack stands doesn't even cost that. Cool tool but dang lol.
@dakotalandandcattle2 жыл бұрын
They are expensive, but if you need one, they pay for themselves. I have lifted a 500 lb wood stove and a 48" SubZero refrigerator with two of these. Each use would have cost me more than the cost of the Arms in alternate resources. They've paid for themselves twice.
@brigette30043 жыл бұрын
What is this magic! Cool.
@lemech3 жыл бұрын
Great review, especially showing the many diverse applications.
@731Woodworks3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@mcolevalentine3 жыл бұрын
Little disappointed you did not say the price under things I dont like unless I missed it (sorry if I did). I honestly feel, listening to your story, that these would not be something that you would buy if you were not in your current situation. Dont get me wrong I am glad God has put you here and given you the blessings to do great things. Just feel this one was more of a sponsor show the tool video vs a 731 Woodworks video. Keep spreading the word brother. 🤜💥🤛
@CustomCreativeCarvings3 жыл бұрын
Looks amazing, I hope I win. (Because it is your of my price range)
@scottbionicnerf87272 жыл бұрын
I can see where these would be handy, and nice to have. Especially if you're burning the midnight oil, on that job really needs to go.
@rinyneefs4619 Жыл бұрын
Hey Bro, great review ! amazing tool, check out the new cabinet supports too ! incredible what you can do with these things, i will use them to remove old bathtubs, because that can be a hassle !😅
@stopdrinkingleftskoolaid65103 жыл бұрын
Is there more than one brand name because I just saw the same tool (it had the same Z mark) for about $25 to $35 depending on the web site. Are they knock offs?
@6677nicole3 жыл бұрын
I would love to have a set of them, but over 400€ + shipping, for a set of clamps??? Wow!
@ifiwooddesigns3 жыл бұрын
This tool is one of those “why didn’t I think of it” until I looked at price. I’ll stick to my reversed clamps with slight modification. It may not lift over 300 pounds, but works for my needs. Maybe I’ll make my own version. I’m surprised you didn’t state the price is extraordinary, but understand it’s probably for sponsorship. Honestly, you mention about starting off broke, would you really get this? It’s not a critical or commonly used tool for most woodworkers. I used to love your videos and content, but beginning to see it going in a different direction. It’s an amazing tool, but ridiculously overpriced.
@kkutube19722 жыл бұрын
I obviously got the cheap, fake version because it bend just lifting a couch.
@misterclear96923 жыл бұрын
💗
@rodriguezc663 жыл бұрын
I want it!!!
@alanfranks1023 Жыл бұрын
over $200...... thats a lot
@bobsmith6932 жыл бұрын
I really need this, let me level my pool table, I can’t get underneath it to lift it without lifting the playing surface not just leg. The slate orientation changes the correction needed to level it. This will help allow me to lift up the leg to adjust the slate.
@jasperedwards27138 ай бұрын
do you get 2 in a box or is it cost 200 eur for one
@jeremyguthrie25392 жыл бұрын
I'll give ya 40 for 2
@jjjerbear7772 жыл бұрын
honestly .. was 1 of the viking arms damaged after the heavy lift? i'm a cabinet installer and want 2 of them .. if they work out good all the other installers will want them too ;)