The Vocal Evolution of Jon Mess (Dance Gavin Dance, Secret Band 2006 - 2016)

[@breadtilian]

I'm going to make an updated version of this video whenever the new Secret Band album drops. Tilian voice change: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h2Kwc2yLo7yGpcU

[@giantewok]

ViolentSofa I think we're all waiting on the next Secret Band album😂

[@HendersonHinchfinch]

When is it going to drop?

[@tyebrygamingmusician6790]

what about when the new DGD album drops?

[@albinoPICKLE123]

It’s heeeeere

[@iamtheculprit]

should add Strawberry's Wake to the end of this for 2020 update

[@KmartKingz]

RIP 2006-2016. Such a short life and released so much music for a 10 yr old.

[@NAHollier7]

I feel like you can really notice the difference beginning with Acceptance Speech. His clarity and tone have definitely improved. Love Jon Mess. Super nice and humble guy too

[@stall2dude911]

yeah before recording that album I know he went to some vocal training

[@MyoticTesseract]

Even DBMII actually.

[@ianbrown7066]

The difference between the two Alex Englishes really highlights the improvement in his clarity

[@seanbillington3287]

Jon Mess is the man

[@dainodawg3160]

+ViolentSofa we should go comment on videos together

[@awakeniam182]

Dylan Daino tffff

[@noahradke6960]

Drinking game Take a shot every time you have no idea what he is saying Have fun dying

[@hellarepublican8923]

Noahsdopefoodreview no I literally Can understand it because I've listened to them all

[@storingjazzinmycheeksforth5319]

tbh even if you tried to figure out what he's saying your guess probably makes more sense than the actual lyrics.

[@chaosmyth6247]

2008 is when you can start to hear actual lyrics

[@tomace194]

Who cares. It's funky

[@davidnissim589]

me go feed the pigeons

[@blackwolF-st2rh]

One of my favorite screamers hands down

[@mudkips8399]

My favorite screamer. I actually quite like all iterations of his vocals. From the deeper bark like screaming of dbm1 to the higher pitched vocals of dbm2 and to his more comfortable higher but mid range screams in the Tillian era. With DMB1 being my favorite performance. His screams are raw in every sense of the word. They sound frustrated, hurt, and angry, and unpolished. There's kind of a crazy passion and unsurity about them that I love. They fit completely with the epic and emotional turns of the album. He's never had a bad performance in my eyes. He's gotten a lot better, and think he's always been unique.

[@WhoonScape]

he hit puberty in 2013.

[@TheBunnygirl20]

Lol

[@cheshirekat4535]

lmao true

[@zeedeadpixel6524]

my throat hurts after listening this

[@DCXProductions]

I feel like he really hit his stride with Acceptance Speech and the Secret Band LP.

[@Trotskers]

I think DBM2 is his best because it's the most unique. In my opinion of course. But that shit will tear you up, glad he went to a more conventional style with the later stuff.

[@keithdube12]

DBMII was deffs some of their best work.

[@polarnightaudio]

the only reason I can't get into DGD's earlier stuff is because of Jon's screams... I would love to love them but they don't seem to grow on me. It's great that he has improved so much

[@olekacf4029]

Teo Laiho My thoughts exactly. But nowadays everything fits into place and sounds fucking perfect

[@youngdrowsy_]

So I’m baking a cake got this badass oven

[@Deioncey]

I like 2013 to 2016 the most, his voice just sounds so much richer.

[@WhiteAsian22]

Deion Sloan it's crazy cause he had Lyme disease and it really screwed up his voice for a while. He sounds amazing now though.

[@comquats101]

WhiteAsian22 He has* Lyme Disease.

[@LouieNJ]

You can tell Jon worked a lot on his style in more recent albums. His vocals are so much clearer than before. DBMII is still my favorite DGD album. JM and the whole band really are amazing. Their Tree City Secession live album is incredible.

[@grungus7200]

His stuff with Secret Band is fucking nuts.

[@phantomlotus1323]

Love his progression but the DBM1-2 and Self-titled era will always be my favorite. Such a unique sound, a one of a kind vocalist.

[@MisterJakeC]

I definitely love him with Tilian because his screaming is amazing while Tilian's voice is awesome.

[@chrisjr1247]

One vocalist who just evolved for the better every time.

[@Bandicooch]

I feel like I'm one of few that gets ASMR effects from listening to Jon's screaming lol

[@johasnolife5121]

i loveeee how his voice has evolved, jon is v v talented 😌

[@mishimaplayz8958]

Acceptance Speech is when I think he really found his voice. Before that it was kinda weird

[@ReneeSitra]

Mishima PlayZ dbm2 had some of jon's best work Need money is fucking crazy good he completely stole the show on that song

[@whathuh4446]

Mishima PlayZ he found his voice in secret bands first album

[@k1xnt]

Music is Good Acceptance Speech mess is just as good as DBM1 mess, but everything in between was pretty weak. I would love to hear current mess style on dbm1 songs, Tree City sessions was awesome because I got to hear that on all the older material. Tillian made kurts songs tolerable too which was a bonus

[@zefzima]

Mishima PlayZ i recall him having to adjust the way he screams because of lung/throat complications

[@HendersonHinchfinch]

Really? Cuz he killed it on the Secret Band EP...

[@o00thunderhawk00o]

its weird that his voice changes so much fro 2012-13 i honestly thought they had a different vocalist up until acceptance speech i didnt know it was the same screamer the whole time other than happiness

[@moonsets-on_you]

0:13 woah Chucky vs. The Giant Tortoise has this part

[@moonsets-on_you]

woah thanks for the heart on my comment. just listened to secret band for the first time yesterday and goddamn Projectile Comet is one of the best post-hardcore songs ive ever heard

[@dzitsy]

@@moonsets-on_you lol great isn’t it

[@kristengroff541]

never heard projectile comet before, but omg he killed that shit imo

[@allenhenderson5581]

High five👋🏾😁

[@spagett2487]

To me, I love Jon's scream in DBM2.

[@zEternalTired]

My fav is the self titled one

[@1kiloh]

zEternalTired thats my least favorite tbh, I always wondered why he sounded so much different on that. Its more like yelling

[@Rezimez]

You forgot Defying Gravity (2012)

[@juliosilencer]

Evoluiu muito durante 2006-2012, e adotou o estilo do vocal de 2012 até o atual, Grande jon.

[@Chicken_Rump]

Wow I’ve never heard Mess like that in Projectile Comet.

[@trevorhoadley4963]

His screaming on Deathstar is my favorite

[@youngdrowsy_]

Interesting take

[@heretustay]

This man has really dialed in his sound. Just a master of the craft

[@brettwodon5896]

Acceptance Speech was the turning point but Instant Gratification is where it really came into being the best form of what it is

[@MartysBetterGaming]

Guy is my favorite screamer, he's gotten so much better over the years imo

[@Antlion161]

skram king

[@landrysaathoff2418]

Secret Band houses some of his best work

[@salvatration3704]

The great thing about this video is that you used the best songs from.every DGD and Secret Band album.

[@MyoticTesseract]

Well, except Demo Team isn't even supposed to be a good song (even if I listen to it unironically sometimes), but at least that one non-chopped part was used to showcase Jon during Acceptance Speech, which was phenomenal regardless :P The titular track though I think showcases Jon's abilities on that album way better.

[@Dayzzd]

If Jon's voice was a female being, I'd hit it

[@laynieraynie1589]

Andre Bell idc what gender Jon is, I'd hit it

[@felix7173]

I wouldnt care if it was female or male being i'd hit it no doubt

[@GarrySugabo]

Should have put Your Last Lullaby for the first song. Farewell Unknown & Defying Gravity needed to be on this Evolution.

[@benny7305]

fuck i love this guy

[@MioTenacious]

dude is killing it

[@bloodredroses88]

I feel like dgd earlier stuff had really shit microphones/recording studios or he was still learning to sing. 2013+ stuff he sounds really good, everything before that just sounds like it was recorded in a shed.

[@HendersonHinchfinch]

He sounds a lot like the vocalist from Trophy Scars. It took me awhile to put my finger on who he was reminding me of.

[@MsMCRlove]

Love of my freaking life

[@Roach4K]

His progress makes me happy

[@DowntownLAKid]

Jon mess used to SING in his first band & it's on KZbin. You should post that up in this progression

[@emmi868]

DowntownLAKid what band

[@subzero8095]

Please tell

[@ah00362]

Levels... elevate.. evolution.. success..

[@mentaltelepathy24]

This dude is the best screamer

[@travisjde]

I like his older stuff

[@beeyoudee212]

I think jon really hit his stride when his cat took over

[@ratty2012]

Some of it reminds me a lot of mid 90s Vision of Disorder

[@mxc6504]

I'm a simple man I see Jon mess I hit "like"

[@lakeblocher7628]

Up to DBM2 his voice kept getting higher and more nasally song bar the occasional song like that Apotheosis guest star, but then comes along Acceptance Speech and Secret Band to kick your ass inside out.

[@baldmitzvah]

I think he really started smoother and more perfected was around acceptance speech. I like his voice on Downtown battle mountain II tho

[@SuperSbly]

Jon looks like a founding father in the first image/thumbnail lmfao

[@circusf.7262]

Messy boy's voice so cute

[@jessikam.4703]

ahhhh my babbyyyy ♡♡♡

[@defaultuser9925]

Jon Mess is the best

[@Sarpi2000]

Reminds me of the singer from at the gates.

[@theraVen27]

My god I love that cat

[@btardpornherp]

Probably Secret Band LP, Acceptance speech and Mothership IMO but there really isnt that much of a difference in 11 years which is awesome. Then again he is only 29-30 and been practicing for so long that its probably natural to scream without ruining your voice. good food and water and your gucci!

[@notorious.scoundrel]

What about his album? And the new single?

[@breadtilian]

I forgot about his solo album, but this video was made in April.

[@Dan-vi3pi]

the older the better

[@wingnut123]

Started off sounding a lot like Fear Before the March of Flames.

[@userkaschwoume]

Привет из 2021. Джон всё также хорошо поёт. А как по мне, даже лучше. )) Вы просто послушайте "Say hi" 🙁

[@misaeldiaz5996]

wtf?? what happened to the mothership album

[@breadtilian]

El Missile I made this video before that album was even announced

[@misaeldiaz5996]

oh no dont look my stupidity is showing :( why did i think this was made in december?

[@RustinAndJuby]

PLEASE DO ONE FOR JHONNY

[@coco_rthritis6462]

2013 and onwards was more consistent but before 2013 there was more variation especially in DBMII

[@breadtilian]

Coco yeah I really liked the way he sounded in DBMII

[@jonnymadness2457]

I'm scared of the dirty screams that were before 2013 ))

[@xgum]

downtown battle mountain 2 is my favorite

[@breadtilian]

girg guy fantastic album. Probably my second favorite

[@brandonweber2133]

You should do an evolution of tilian Pearson, Jonny Craig, ect.

[@breadtilian]

Brandon Weber I could do one for Tilian but I don't really know any Jonny Craig beyond DGD

[@brandonweber2133]

ViolentSofa I know he's in slaves right now and he was in emarosa but beyond that I don't know. These videos are really cool though, awesome job!

[@breadtilian]

Here it is: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h2Kwc2yLo7yGpcU

[@brandonweber2133]

Awesome job! Thank you for that! I actually saw a song on there I've never heard before which was really cool!

[@dead_ops3938]

i think deathstar is my favorite era

[@Centipede_Solaire]

What's the name of the first song before showing Mess's vocals

[@breadtilian]

VodeMasta666 kurttravis.bandcamp.com/track/its-all-over

[@hellarepublican8923]

Why isn't there one for Willy swan

[@erravi]

Does the TCS alex count in this? it was a live from studio recording, everything else had production EDIT: ye it counts, disregard this comment

[@artdzhavadov]

what's the song on 00:00? I like it

[@breadtilian]

It’s All Over by Kurt Travis

[@artdzhavadov]

@@breadtilian thanks, man

[@juicyjjctv3806]

Thought Jon and Tilian were the same person tbh

[@Versaseri]

JuicyJJC TV get the fuck out

[@SkyvDen]

The fuck. Get the fuck out of here

[@Mathh335]

intro song?

[@breadtilian]

kurttravis.bandcamp.com/track/its-all-over

[@Derrickstare]

god I love that album.

[@arthursalitre8933]

Dance Gavin Dance

[@thePIEpercentile]

skramz king

[@grimmdadeadman2765]

I heard the self titled album of DGD was actually Will Swan

[@breadtilian]

Shady Jeff Happiness is Will Swan "Hello, my name is Jon fucking Mess. I wrote the script on getting you out of your dress" - Jon Mess - Buffalo!

[@grimmdadeadman2765]

ViolentSofa yeah. Thats right lol. I totally forgot about that. But i remember some were will. Like tree village and a few others

[@cubturbo]

Opening song title?

[@breadtilian]

It's all over by Kurt Travis

[@leon-du8ye]

Only thing I like about Dance Gavin Dance. Great vocalist.

[@zannyreflections9651]

I almost hate his vocals on dtbm2 they range from fine to really bad. I’m specifically talking about the style he does at in songs like at 1:10 in need money lmao

[@breadtilian]

I think dtbm2 is when his vocals start to sound good. Everything before sounds dry and painful.

[@zannyreflections9651]

@@breadtilian I agree, i just feel like they’re so inconsistent on that album and the bad parts like what I time stamped earlier kind of ruin the good parts for me, I love his vocals on acceptance speech and onwards, he’s only gotten and better over time

[@xPussyWhistlex]

Excellent screamer but why does he still look so awkward on stage after so many years of performing?

[@mentaltelepathy24]

but its cooler when he stands still

[@drumtum81]

How was any of this an evolution in any capacity?

[@breadtilian]

GameOfInches his vocals changed drastically, idk what you mean?

[@drumtum81]

ViolentSofa drastically? His approach to every vocal line is pretty much the exact same with an exception here or there

[@breadtilian]

GameOfInches his voice sounds completely different from beginning to end

[@FEELTHETRILL]

Will swan screams for Alex English

[@1kiloh]

HellaRepublican繊細な 退治 will swan, the lead guitarist did the screams, or so he says. Although it might be jon mess

[@lifeishardboy121]

Self titled isnt john

[@breadtilian]

Senior Huevo self titled is Jon and kurt

[@nem6952]

lol until DBM2 he was shit but now he's awesome

[@AcaRaBacklash]

He changed his entire style when he came back because it was wrecking his throat.

[@FIDEL_CASHFLOW_]

As he should have. His old style was shit. It was almost like he was trying to clear his throat and talk at the same time

[@IgorJCorrea]

His screams ruinned most of the albums.......

[@breadtilian]

Igor Corrêa 😂 good one, I almost thought you were serious

[@IgorJCorrea]

ViolentSofa yes I am serious, until 2013 his screams were just over used and exagerated on most songs, now they learned where to place the screams and it doesn't sound like he is dying lmao

[@breadtilian]

Igor Corrêa oh yeah, he sounds much better now, but wouldn’t say he ruined any of the albums personally