The Walking Dead's Forgotten Spinoff

In todays video, I talk about one of The Walking Dead's spinoffs that never had the true shine I feel deserved. Fear The Walking Dead: Dead in the Water is a mini-series showing the US Navy's perspective of the outbreak in a submarine. I recap everything that happens in this mini-series and why it had a significant role in Fear The Walking Dead.
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[@kazzatron.]

Hopefully they do a webisode on Police/Sheriff perspective during the chaos, and a military perspective, example the tank guy.

[@mercenary1106]

If only frank was in charge of the show again

[@kazzatron.]

@@mercenary1106 Hopefully we get a reboot

[@kazzatron.]

@OhanaRadio yeah, even the fire departments pov would be good too

[@TheZanzibarMan]

Starkiller deserved better

[@TimTurdTheBigBird]

Originally the tank guy was going to have a scene im pretty sure

[@mcdabb7226]

Why are you so shocked with how fast it spread? Shane turned in minutes so the rate at which they turn isn’t crazy. And it spreading so fast is how the world fell in the first place

[@eggx8488]

Chill bud

[@owenpreteau1512]

I mean, for that many people to turn that fast, they all would've had to turn as fast as shane

[@mcdabb7226]

@@owenpreteau1512 I don’t think that’s really uncommon. For most of the main show those things are turning almost instantly

[@ClashedPR]

The crew member who got bit turned in like 30 minutes. Shane was shot and killed that’s why he turned so quick. The crewmembers were just bit we never saw their infection basically kill them with the fever

[@mcdabb7226]

@@ClashedPR I don’t agree mate. You die you turn. We see in the episode people getting bit on the neck. That’s death within minutes. I just don’t see it as that unbelievable

[@HC-ur9no]

It's mentioned that they hadn't been getting a lot of radio coms over the last few weeks so maybe the outbreak started right after they deployed. In the few weeks they were isolated in the sub, a few of them may have come in contact with the virus before boarding the sub and passed it on to the rest of the crew but since no one had died yet, it was contained until the one guy died.

[@granddaddysocklord7100]

This makes a lot of sense and I’d say is definitely backed by the cdc episode I believe where the doctor explains that its like a cancer that lays dormant in everybody and basically takes over once you die

[@blizard9701]

Dead In The Water and Red Machete are my favourites. They both bring back great characters (FTWD Riley and Teddy and TWD's Joe and the Claimers) and that's what I like to see. I was hoping all Tale episodes were from characters we already knew.

[@Vikeroni]

I hate that short episode thing because submarine had way to few guns. Like it was 2/3 pistol on the entire sub but IRL they would have assault rifles and all that for stop boarding actions or land operations and all that. And some people would carry pistols 24/7 on missions

[@goheen1701]

I wasn't in the Navy, but did work with Nukes back in the early 90's in the U.S. Army - there is absolutely nothing that I can think of concerning Nukes that is allowed to be done with fewer than 2 people, including just visual inspections of the devices.

[@FedralBI]

Were you Pershing, or did you handle the 8" nuke rounds?

[@colin_cpr]

I'm starting to like these twd webisodes recaps. Lets hope you upload more of them

[@jeffpadilla1575]

Being a Navy submariner watching this was painful, so many things were wrong.

[@freaky1382]

as someone writing my own book set in the same universe with similar events, id love to hear some examples so i can make sure not to make the same mistakes in my own books :) . i pride myself in making my work as realistic as possible while still being fictional and enjoyable

[@Nothinbutalotofnothin]

that seems really cool.@@freaky1382

[@jukeseyable]

Everything is wrong. But the long and the short of it is speciffically the missile launce procedure, as well as dual key, (the only bit that they got right, there should be an 8 digit auth code, (the old one wouldnt work, the code is launch specific) as for the actual launch, Trident 2/ D5 can not be launched whilst exposed to the atmosphere, it has to be submerged. launch is iniatiated by presurised gas ejecting the missile from its silo. For this to work, it necessitates having a minimum water pressure to form a seal for the gas to expell the missile. only once the mssile has broken the surface does the first stage rocket motor ignite. Another problem, power, or lack of, Ohio class boats are nuclear powered, the reactor would have shut down, so 0 volts to initiate launch. as for the weapons officer having keys, bullshit its the cpatain and the Executive officer, not the weapons officer. and as for the distructive potentential of a fully loaded D5, it is way less than wiping out texas, its warheads are only 475 Kt yield, so 19x hiroshima, and each missile, but due to arms limitation treaties, most missiles have only 4 warheads + decoys, Each warhead has a moderate damage blast radius, (ie most residential structures damaged of around 3.5 miles. So 12 warheads, (3 missiles) gets huston deleted, an Ohio class boat carries i believe 20 missiles due to arms treaties, all though they could carry 24. So call it 6 x huatons and some change, but that is certainly not the state of Texas @@freaky1382

[@dukenukem69]

The only difference thing wrong with this representation is that there wasnt enough seamen buttsecks. Other than that it was spot on, tip to butt sailer, tip to butt.

[@ZUEIRATHEWALKERFODA]

this websode could easily be the seventh episode of tales of the walking dead, and it would easily be the best of the series. 🇧🇷

[@themagnificentorange672]

Fax but rip

[@gagetaylor192]

All we really know about how the virus was initially spread was that it's air born. We don't really know if there's an incubation period once it's breathed in. Could be days, weeks, even months if it does exist. Which would explain why despite being that far underneath the water the virus was still in effect.

[@MisterSomeone12271]

All we really know is thar you are mindless teenager girl.

[@JGARCIA2012FULL]

In the first season of The Walking Dead, when they arrived at the CDC lab in Atlanta, the doctor explained to Rick at the end of episode 6 that they all had the latent virus in their bodies (brains), hence his decision to destroy the lab with everyone inside as a form of merciful death. The bites and scratches of the walkers caused it to activate aggressively, but even a natural death could cause the person to return as a walker; what has varied in the series is the certainty of when this occurs, and with the genetic variety in the human race, there would not be a hole in the logic of the virus either.

[@littlemisscheesy8592]

I think that the bites and scratches cause an infection that cause you to die and with having the virus already in you you turn, the bite doesn’t turn you it kills you

[@stephenb2276]

I don't understand why your comment isn't top? It explained it how you just did but the top comment is still debating how it's possible on a sub....!?

[@JGARCIA2012FULL]

@@stephenb2276 Not many people scroll down for long; it's easier to google for the answers, but it's still not very common knowledge.

[@flipchuck]

Bites and scratches don't activate aggressively the virus. The virus activates when someone dies. Any kind of death. It's just that the bites and scratches causes a lethal infection every Time. Basically the walkers mouth has so much germs that a bite causes an infection that will kill 100% of the time unless the spread of the infection is stopped by chopping off a limb.

[@lamarmottemasquee]

being bite by a walker doesn't activate the virus faster. It give intense fever/infection who lead to death (and then, to be a walker) this is what is the most logical and many theories lead to that

[@superrandom_1]

Great explanation to his backstory, more people need to know this.

[@alcor3372]

There’s no designation how much time passes between the ice cream situation and everyone turning. I pictured it being at least an hour or two, which would be plenty of time for a bunch of people to get caught off guard and bitten

[@michaelkellys3906]

Plothole that has yet to be resolved - potentially in one of the upcoming spin-offs? Given how long they were in the water, perhaps the sub's last port of call was in France? France is where the virus (apparently man-made) is rumored to have started. Would be cool if Daryl, (in his spin-off series that's said to be taking place in France) discovers that the Pennsylvania's last port of call was in France. Ya know, just as kinda a sidenote in his journey - that only the truest Walking Dead fans will catch.

[@termiusprime]

The ice cream thing is actually a real practice on submarines, so they got that right.

[@hex_tox1c]

Ricky dicky doo dah grimes

[@onmoron4175]

fr

[@DingleJingle69]

Nobody can disagree

[@jamaicanpattys5557]

boom shackalacka boom shacka

[@bignegga3507]

Thank you for bringing this into light, easily my favorite webisode series

[@altf4nani282]

To be honest, I know a friend who works as a chef on a sub in the UK and they had a covid case in the sub so it could be anything like covid being on food supplies or in water supplies

[@MakiMadara]

This could've been a better series if the production budget was a little bigger it has a great story i think more people would look at it if it was marketed better

[@123lard123]

The CDC guy explained that everyone already had the virus.

[@estoeslucas4085]

Riley is a captain, renwick is a colonel and is the “commander” of the submarine

[@yumtruck7384]

He’s not a captain, that’s Lieutenant Commander

[@yumtruck7384]

And the co is a captain, that’s an o6

[@Johndoe-jb6nx]

Yea walkers only managed to even prosper in this series cause of HEAVY PLOT ARMOR, and anyone onboard with some common sense would realize that something's up leading to everyone arming themselves and the outbreak onboard never even taking place.

[@yumtruck7384]

No they wouldn’t

[@Johndoe-jb6nx]

@@yumtruck7384 why is that,

[@LifeBricks]

This was a very good watch. Should’ve been longer

[@TheRealMichonne]

Your video's are great clashed pr. they always make my day!!

[@verndelap]

Thought everybody had the virus in them, so when they die they turn anyway bit or not. Same happens on a sub too. So, Isn't that what Rick says after killing Shane, "Everyone's infected" ? Others have mentioned that this concept is what sets the walking dead series apat and differs from all the other zombie media concepts.

[@cream6456]

Man i love this breakdown, do more in the new trailers in spinoffs

[@Yoldasi]

Funy enough, submarines are pressurized, and thus contagions spread slower when outside the body but faster when inside. So the turning rates make a little more sense knowing that.

[@kq3u]

This Spinoff would be dope, btw you are growing so fast keep it up man!

[@vsgl]

well yeah it is dope, its real.

[@ClashedPR]

Thanks broo

[@Barbiewatchers]

I knew about this for a while. I haven’t seen it. There’s also one called the walking dead: hexagon that takes place in France where there was supposedly a cure.

[@TonesOverthinksIt]

The biggest flaw in this whole thing is that even if you have the launch keys, you still couldn't launch the missiles. The subs require an uplink directly from command, specifically the President and/or NORAD to input the launch codes. The movie Crimson Tide explained thoroughly why such a system is required, there is no way a nuclear missile can be launched from a submarine (or anywhere for that matter) just because the two people with the keys suddenly feel like it.

[@CatherineLee3000]

There were cases of when the crew had to operate on someone for appendicitis on a submarine. A good example of that is the USS Seadragon (SS-194).

[@Skunkyham]

I've seen this and honestly it's good to watch how Riley was before meeting teddy

[@CaulfieldBrooks312]

Petition to make videos about all the webisodes and spinoffs. I loving this vids ♥

[@musicalbiohazard3207]

5:30 I would say that he turned quicker because most air on submarines is recycled or something like that, but given that the airbourne part of the virus doesn't affect anything (That I know of) it is strange how he got a wrist nibble then almost immediately goes to shuffling around the crew quarters

[@invisible_editzzz]

Your almost at 1 million congrats 🎉

[@stefanmorgan6085]

In the walking dead it is explained that EVERYONE is infected. No matter how you die, you turn.

[@DingleJingle69]

Amazing recap bro. Please make more recaps

[@larrychrysler]

My question is….how did this sub end up on dry land?

[@cickeith9579]

Right!

[@vzzy123]

Great video i loved this spin off

[@kazak8926]

Another fun thing I wanted to add: It is absolutely true that it works that way with the keys. On every nuclear armed nation it is organized that way. For example, on a Soviet Submarine in the 60s, during the Cuban Missile crisis a Soviet Sub almost launched nuclear warheads due to a false positive. The Political Officer, Captain of the submarine and Commander of the Detachment were all in possession of these keys, and the Political Officer and Captain were in favor of a launch (Believing that the US had already launched warheads at the USSR). Only the Detachment Commander was against it, and sense it wasn't a unanimous decision the launch was not initiated, probably saving the entire world.

[@DaroXs2]

Amazing video keep it up!

[@deco_boi]

Amazing vid as usual cookie

[@xevnai]

Yo congrats on 1M

[@catdadpeter]

Teddy in the end had me wanting a teddy origin episode

[@SSPSheiK]

i really tried to like this show.. but the fact that the walkers that just recently turned already looked like they've been decomposing for weeks really takes you out of it. its what kinda what killed FYWD for me too

[@chewy99.]

11:46 Same! I watched it before Fear too and I thought they wouldn’t kill him off.

[@ramen6124]

i had no clue you made YT content i just had a well aged appreciation for your tiktok irony content

[@anthonystone2089]

Every one was already infected already and when they die is when they fully turn and it looks like many people have turned without dying in some cases.

[@germanboi3339]

more webisode reviews man, youre the goat

[@SmGTwist]

Suicide/Willing Deaths are a very common theme in this show; T-Dog, The mother from Torn Apart, Sasha, even Carl offers his life to Negan in exchange for peace. Throwing yourself at walkers isn't exactly a benign concept to me. We all have to punch our cards sooner or later, and for me, if I was bit, I would actually turn myself into bait and lead a group away, or put myself willingly between people who weren't bit and walkers. "Throwing themselves" at walkers for no reason would be insane. If you've been bit and you know what that means (even with very little data), and you're in a situation where your friends have a chance but only if you buy them a precious few more seconds, that's something you may decide in a spur of the moment with adrenaline/endorphines coursing through your system from the pain of the bite. If you're going to die anyway, self-sacrifice isn't necessarily the worst way to go, particularly in this universe. It's for sure how I'd aim to punch my card; a meaningful death.

[@danelynch7171]

It's not just self sacrifice though. It's willingly being torn apart and eaten alive.... You're not pulling the pin on a grenade or going out in a blaze of glory. It would take a lot ot convince me to let walkers rip me apart and chew on me while I'm still alive....

[@MortallyChallanged]

God dammit, dude. This is such a good review. Fuck, man, fear could have been amazing.

[@Jonathan-kw9sj]

so about the "How can it spread so fast in 2 hour" maybe because the sub is so narrow, once you find a walker it hard to not get pin down or fight it. and most likely if you fight one another will probably appear from behind or more in the front and you get eaten alive.

[@jo4285]

The should do Crusing on the walking Dead! Have a cruise ship full of survivors and zombies. Visiting different ports looking for survivors and supplies.

[@kazak8926]

I liked it, however a couple of things I really don't like 1. Guns are loud. In a sub it would be extremely painful and maybe even cause actual bloody ears. 2. Yeah they act way too non chalant and it kind of just goes from 0-100 really quick, which sucks. 3. Nuclear warheads don't cause that kind of damage. In the immediate blast area, when detonating on contact with the surface (Which most warheads do not do, they are designed to airburst) they might cause that, but think about how many warheads have been tested. You used to be able to watch atomic tests from hotels in las vegas. One warhead does not do that kind of damage. The world ending properties of nuclear war come from the fact that the sheer number of them detonated would cause effects like that.

[@amogus360noscope3]

10:50 Jesus

[@a_frag_grenade9408]

If the virus is airborne, and presumably the submarine hasn't surfaced for a whole rotation, then how are any of the people inside the submarine infected? Submarines use recycled air and can be deployed for months at a time before surfacing. I'd imagine that it would be impossible for the crew to be infected before sailing off, since it wouldn't take long for the world to end once the virus is released, stopping them from being deployed.

[@CodeeXD]

They got infected before they deployed, pretty simple. The virus doesn't do anything to you until you die or get bitten.

[@mrdelaney4440]

Riley refusing to turn the key is not mutiny, it's part of the system, if both key holders don't agree there can be no launch, watch 'crimson tide' that film is about the whole nuclear key issue.

[@CodeeXD]

Well wouldn't it be mutiny or dereliction of duty since they were given the order to launch and coordinates to hit? Although you could argue not knowing the situation on the surface his oath as a soldier would mean he was in the right by not firing a nuke on an American city?

[@naythantino693]

Clashed PR I like your videos a lot

[@Samsonsamurai]

With those tight quarters and no one knowing what’s going on, it makes complete sense that the sub was over taken so fasr

[@Ermwhatthesigma1257]

Congratulations on 1mil

[@Some_guy_who_exsists]

Pov: you where surching for useful things in a destroyd sub when a husk bites you (in Barotrauma)

[@naythantino693]

Clashed PR You are the best you tuber ever

[@devinhoyt1700]

Very underrated series that’s for sure

[@ZombieSlayer_822]

Only TWD can do a spin-off of a spin-off

[@N00000OOOOBY]

What if right, basically, the oxygen supply that they had, when it was being pumped into the tanks, it had the virus inside cuz my then the virus had already became widespread but wasn't mutated enough to kill yet

[@yumtruck7384]

Thats not how oxygen works on submarines

[@N00000OOOOBY]

@@yumtruck7384 then how does it work? with rebreathers?

[@yumtruck7384]

@@N00000OOOOBY it’s produced on board

[@mindset2501]

"The end is the beginning"

[@iamjoeysteel]

The walking dead as whole have the major issue that these zombies are weak and casually get held off by one arm in many cases. It could never take hold like it does in the show which is probably why the show glosses over it.

[@VioletAeonSnowfield]

"It's interesting to see how he turned from that into what we see in Season 6." I mean. Not really? He's trapped on a submarine when the zombie outbreak begins. Which means his wife and son are almost definitely dead or soon to be dead. Which is why he ends up in the head space he's at in Season 6. The rate at which the infection turns people has always been wildly inconsistent. What I find way more interesting is that the recently turned people look like zombies. Walkers don't just immediately look like zombies after their reanimation; they have to decompose before they actually look undead. A freshly turned walker should just look like a really pale person. EDIT: It's common for certain particularly risky systems to have a built-in dual failsafe system where a single person can't operate those systems. EDIT 2: Everyone in TWD is infected. But, the infection - whatever it is - doesn't do anything until they die. Kirkman has even gone on record claiming that the only reason bites kill is because of all the bacteria that build up within a walker's mouth - this doesn't make any sense of course and it's not really important, but it's still something to know.

[@dragonsnail3298]

There are three people with keys but only two are required to launch.

[@ronniewestherly3435]

That caption got paranoid then stop listening to his own rule but then after he wants them to go along with his orders.meated up.

[@383commando]

Season 1 of walking dead guy at CDC tells Rick that everyone is infected. But you don't turn until you DIE be it natural, gunshot or bite.

[@rosethesavage6350]

Excuse me @clashedpr can you please do one on the whispers please

[@Eclipses915]

I liked this episode I get I haven’t really 100% liked walking dead as much anymore but I still watch it

[@juancarlosperezcortes9259]

The imprudent guy is the XO, First Officer or Second in Command

[@pupzDZN]

we need a dale prequel bro

[@JoaoSoares-rs6ec]

its like that in all balistic missile submarines and nuclear silos, they need to keys to fire the nukes

[@isaiahwelch8066]

I dont think many people know this, but two-man authentication to launch nuclear military weapons is real. Not only is it real on surface boats that can fire Tomahawk cruise missiles, but missiles from a boat like _Pennsylvania_ (Which was originally a battleship damaged at Pearl Harbor in 1941, by the way) also are fired the same way. This is actually the practice of US SAC, Strategic Air Command, as well as NORAD in Cheyenne Mountain. In all cases, two-man authentication is standard protocol for the US military. By the way, according to what I've researched, USS Pennsylvania is an actual Ohio-class SSBN (basically a nuclear-powered underwater launch platform for launching D-5 Trident-II ICBMs). Her crew count is 144 enlisted personnel, and 15 officers. If you have 8 plus Riley surviving the outbreak on board, this means that #1, Riley is now CO of the remaining crew. Second, the other Weapons Officer would normally get the second key if the Captain dies. As for how Pennsylvania ended up on shore, more than likely shallow water, and then running around. After which, she's not moving again.

[@HorrorStoriezzs]

Love you man, I’m following in your footsteps creating theme pages and KZbin videos. Would love to talk as I’m 14 and you seem young also!

[@CaulfieldBrooks312]

A webisode spinoff of a spinoff of a TV shows that's an adaptation of a comic book

[@chuckmangione4747]

I don’t like how all the fresh walkers look like they’ve been stumbling around for a couple weeks.

[@minnihd6470]

I suspect that they turned so fast because they are so deep under water and the virus might perform different because of the depth and water pressure maybe

[@shylamckenzie742]

He was fine putting other people in it but was screaming when it was his turn lol

[@tsoliot5913]

The past tense of bite is bitten. Yes, nuke launches require two keys turned simultaneously.

[@lysx_grxmes]

I was at a sleepover and this came on and all my friends and I were just screaming at the TV to go for them to go for the head of the walkers

[@Akuma_ultra7]

I feel like he is underestimating how fast a illnesses can spread when in enclosed space

[@SphealSocietyCEO-Phleggs]

Correct me if i'm wrong, it doesn't matter even if they were in that sub for weeks before the virus hit, the virus was airborne and through the water cycle that naturally occurs on earth it would almost definitely find its way into the seas and oceans, from there the submarine uses Electrolysis to produce oxygen within from the sea/ocean itself. BOOM. Everybody latently infected. LIGHT SPOILERS FOR SEASON 2 OF FEAR THE WALKING DEAD: The turn time is hyper inconsistent though. BUT, there was that one guy from S2? I think? Of FTWD who actually (although unethically) might be onto something about different taxonomy affecting the rate at which each person succumbs to the virus.

[@kieronlivingstone4497]

Great video

[@mtf-epislon9555]

I really liked this miniseries

[@Youngstown529]

DEAD IN THE WATER was as good as any of the WALKING DEAD series/webisodes.

[@Mrottertwdw]

Clashed I want a spin off to where Daryl and Morgan team up to find Rick maybe u could have a idea maybe to what whould happened or what whould it come to if dary and Morgan team up 😅

[@austinhughes1924]

I always wondered. What a zombie apocalypse.Would be like on a submarine?

[@rheanonjasmyne]

FTWD: Dead In The Water should have been a series and NOT just a webisode !!!!!!!!!!!!! I was SOOOOOOOOOO PISSED !

[@MASTEROFEVIL]

Whatever happened with the astronaut though?

[@haleywulf]

best twd channel

[@emilhaas3261]

where can i watch this series?

[@themagnificentorange672]

Road to a milli let's GO

[@cashtipton]

Close to 1Mil!!

[@Mumskorv10]

finally a new video

[@Maybe_Crazy_Courier]

Refusing the order to nuke Chicago would probably be fine since soldiers are supposed to be allowed to disobey orders that are unjust been like that since WW2 don’t want that again

[@marine1173]

how did they crew of the sub get it? the same way people in space would get it, through those stints of contact with the outside world such as when they did dock or surface. the virus likely started out as the inactive phase of the virus and eventually after enough people were infected the virus activated upon death causing the resurrections phase. i believe there are either 2 phases or 2 strains of the virus, the active phase ie walkers and the inactive ie the one everyone has it and will turn upon death. its likely that this inactive phase is the one that is airborne and is the HIGHLY infectious beyond comprehension. thats why in a day... millions would of caught it and even then those who died would be few in number to be like in FTWD season 1... a few scattered cases of people going missing and the like. but you go from day 1, millions infected to day 2 or a week or maybe month or few, probably billions infected and thats when the walkers start piling up. the crew were likely already exposed to the inactive strain or phase of the virus which is why they all were able to turn.