The war is on: Turkish football is spiralling out of control

[@ca9larr]

All those people got arrested after invading the pitch are all released already. It's a joke.

[@ouzd.19]

No, the joke is that in a similar case a Fenerbahçe fan was not even arrested. You don't want justice, you always want to be given special treatment.

[@TurquazCannabiz]

@@ouzd.19are you joking? Did you see what happened during and after this match?

[@ca9larr]

@@ouzd.19 what's your point then? Punish injustice with injustice? Who is getting the special treatment? Me or the ones that are released after they invaded the pitch.

[@ouzd.19]

@@ca9larr Obviously fenerbahçe is getting special treatment in this case. Trabzonspor was rightly punished with 6 games without spectators and a fine. Some of the Fenerbahçe Players should have been punished with at least 5-10 games according to the rules, but obviously certain clubs in Turkey are given a free pass and rules do not apply to them.

[@ca9larr]

@@ouzd.19 says the guy who supports attacking players on the pitch. you are delusional. Get some help

[@btuckervideos4705]

Not the only disgrace in Turkey this season, after a club chairman of a different club punched a referee on the pitch after a match back in December. Turkish football is a farce at the minute, and needs to be sorted out quickly

[@fromtheheartvideos3041]

Its madness and needs to end... Being a Besiktas fan and a fan of Turkish football has never been harder

[@TurquazCannabiz]

Besiktas is horrible this season to be honest…

[@oguzhan9424]

Ali Koc is a threat towards everything what is Turkish!

[@dennispodiapolski9763]

@@TurquazCannabizobviously bro but there’s no need to remind us 😔

[@Muradwalis92]

SİYAH!

[@TurquazCannabiz]

@@dennispodiapolski9763 sorry bro 🤍🖤 as a Fener fan I feel your pain

[@kyletucker3811]

0:53 Normally I don't comment this early. But why in the world would Fenerbahce be punished? Do Trabzonspor have no shame or self awareness? The incident was entirely due to the unruliness of THEIR fans. The Fenerbahce players were only reacting after an entire match of being pelted by debris and then having some fan rush them.

[@lennard9331]

Don't question Turkish logic, especially Trabzon's logic. I grew up in Istanbul, and to basically everyone in the western half of the country, Trabzon was, and still is the "Florida" of Turkey.

[@Bugramirsat]

@@lennard9331florida of turkey is Adana its indisputable

[@lennard9331]

​@@Bugramirsat yok abi, Laz kafası gibi kafa bu memlekette hiçbir yerde yok (Trabzonlular Laz değil bu arada ama çaktırmıyoruz) 😂

[@andresarnold6555]

Those fans had it coming the Fenerbahçe players did nothing wrong that day other than player 24 but I get why he was mad

[@maciejbala477]

it's insane. It's literally blaming the victim in this case. Same logic as beating up a man for saying stuff to you or "provoking" you and then claiming he had it coming.

[@lxrdwxlf4192]

0-11-0 new formation unlocked

[@YTBRSosyalEmre]

Pep guardiola in 2030:

[@edeypodey2224]

0-11-0 narrow formation

[@tgamagedon]

It just feels like Trabzonspor would be completely fine with this happening again. I get that this level of hatred between supporters is just a reflection of underlying tensions, but that's what football is usually so good at, letting people express their frustrations through their support and letting the players fight the actual battle on the pitch. If you allow that separation to be broken it just turns into a riot and it's only a matter of time before someone dies.

[@GamerFlair]

I'm pretty sure they would. Ultimately I think you'll find theres a core of leadership and a core of fans who are of the opinion (rightly or wrongly) that they have been mistreated for years and therefore no-one can complain about anything they do.

[@maciejbala477]

@@GamerFlair as Adrian has talked about, its "social media" type of behavior, with whataboutism. We did something wrong? But what about...

[@ouzd.19]

Well, if you only knew what Fenerbahçe fans are capable of. 😄. These fanatics have even set fire to their own stadium and have even set fire to police cars.

[@BigPurp9]

@@ouzd.19but the point is in this case at least they aren’t in the wrong? I’m a United fan and while I’d love it if our fans did this after another embarrassing performance I wouldn’t cry about whatever punishment we received

[@tgamagedon]

@@ouzd.19 I mean, I don't doubt it, but this is about the club itself implicitly condoning it, you know the same people who are supposed to protect players and staff. They are in charge of making sure what happens in their stadium is a football match, not a riot.

[@deafcel]

As a Beşiktaş fan and neutral the controversies and incidents happening in Turkish football and the inaction of the TFF is what is really killing the sports development here. People from both sides are talking about things from a decade ago with whataboutism instead or focusing on the fact that Trabzonspor fans commited violations against discipline in football.

[@oguzhan9424]

So you as a neutral Besiktas footbal fan find it right what Ali Koc is doing right now? So you dont think the actual one who is causing the damage is Ali Koc? Im very curious to your answer…

[@CimbomFanFiction]

Ali Koc is literally paying besiktas and helping them out huge financially right now. Thats why theyve been somewhat tighter with them lately

[@Muradwalis92]

@@CimbomFanFiction why are you such a typical GS fan? Like really ? Once you start support this team does it make you automatically and non logical. Kardeşim but duşmanlık ne? Hepimiz Türküz atamızın izinden gidiyoruz yeter be!

[@adidoki]

@@CimbomFanFiction Ali Koc´s father Rahmi Koc was one of the biggest supporters of Besiktas, that´s his money

[@secoo3712]

Olm nye ingilizce kavga ediyosunuz dlfşggşlflssşşs

[@flayar3207]

Trabsonspor: *Gets into massive controversy* *gets angry about something that their fans caused* *constantly complains like children* *doesnt accept any responsibility for being stupid* *Complains some more* *the cycle repeats*

[@FunkyGhostHD]

Exactly.

[@DogukanSeptem]

missed a step: their actions get enabled and encouraged by the authorities.

[@S1lky805]

Well.... Trabzonspor would have won 2011-2012 season if it wasn't for match fixing by Fenerbahce officials. The Turkish FA decided to only hold the individuals involved responsible and not the club itself so Fenerbahce were allowed to keep their fraudulent championship. All chaos in the following years between FB and TS is a result of that. I'm not saying fans are right in invading the pitch or actions taken by board members of TS are correct, however there is a legitimate reason why TS and their fans deeply dislike FB. That is the injustice which started it all.

[@716_ハディくん]

​@@S1lky805 only one title ? how about TS go win another one then ? isn't that hard, after all turkish league is washed league

[@S1lky805]

@@716_ハディくん they have one another one since, what is the point of your response?

[@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716]

A slap on the wrist for trabzonspor. They should have been ejected from the league

[@jonisilk]

A culture change needs to happen in Turkish football. If they can't get their fanbases under control, then Turkish clubs should be banned from UEFA competitions.

[@TurquazCannabiz]

The fans act fine in European matches. The problems in Turkey between the clubs are on a personal level.

[@alexp_9996]

A culture change needs to happen in Turkey as a whole

[@Neon_33]

no

[@xsnowy6210]

@@alexp_9996 no

[@Siqipilaci]

Nice joke. Then you could ban most of the Balkans too.

[@selcukdemirbas2514]

Trabzonspor's 6 match ban was reduced to 4 later on, by the way, and the fee was reduced to about 1/6 of the original.

[@simaatiming8018]

Social media logic is making its way out into real life. In what world should Trabzonspor be the victims here?

[@ouzd.19]

Maybe you should look more deeply into the subject before you make any assumptions. Only one fan ran onto the pitch after the game at the beginning. The video doesn't go into why several fans stormed onto the pitch. I've explained why it happened in the comments here.

[@saptaccrvima3563]

​@@ouzd.19horrible troll, nobody's falling for it

[@sanadedixeptar5214]

@@ouzd.19 why exacly then ran into pitch ? cuz fener celebrated ? than fan square up againts 2 players ? and when it got beaten up trabzon fans storm it . Trabzon did same at feners home and nobody attack them . well from your ''subject''' i hope any trabzon fans doesnt come to kadıköy next year

[@albertlay8927]

Trabzonspor and their fans are a disgrace, a dishonour to Türkye. Turkish football is sick.

[@ouzd.19]

Actually, fenerbahçe fans are the c'an'cer of Turkish football. In the past, they have also made a bad name for themselves through te'rr'orist behaviour, such as setting fire to police cars or burning down their own stadium...

[@SebastianGomez-uj8iu]

The fan getting kicked while he was down had it coming. The player is not a coward for kicking the fan. If the league doesn't do anything to prevent fans from invading the pitch, then get ready to get beat

[@d.optional3381]

violence is cringe. i dont respect people that cant contain themselves

[@ekn_38]

The Player is a coward for kicking a Man on the ground. He could have just left and run towards the dressing room but he chose to attempt murder.

[@oguzhan9424]

You must be a very distrubed person in real life! The punishment of entering the pitch, even if you are angry, is not being kicked and punched by players! Its a fine and a stadium exclusion!

[@solohd17]

That’s how it goes. I agree he’s not a coward in the slightest!

[@Joedaltonisthebestone]

@@ekn_38do you think corridors to dressing room is safe ? Did you see the videos in the corridors ?

[@ariamaddison257]

Why do certain football clubs who have been known for certain shady practices get so angry when the same is done to them?

[@sidahmedt6422]

A simple case of they can dish it but can't it type of scenario

[@d.optional3381]

have you met people before?

[@TurquazCannabiz]

So you can’t get angry when your players get attacked by another teams fans?

[@FunkyGhostHD]

The past is the past, stop being b*tthurt about it and take responsibility instead of deflecting it.

[@oguzhan9424]

⁠@@TurquazCannabiz Getting angry is completely different thing then kicking a man who is on the ground and punching someone who is unable to defend himself! Getting angry does not mean you get extra rights either!

[@luciiiidnightmares]

Aaaaand Fenerbache just abandoned the super cup final in 55 seconds, *grabs popcorn*

[@S1lky805]

Not to mention they match fixed their way to a championship which started all of this

[@fatman7923]

@@S1lky805I swear the “cheating” allegations was proven innocent for fenerbahce in November 2020.

[@ladyselin35]

@@fatman7923 Proven innocent because of ''illegal acquisition of evidence'' It doesnt mean they didnt do it. They were well aware theyve done it and get caught they only protested how others claimed the evidences and judges found FB right. Thats why Theyve withdrawed their case from CAS. Since they '' were'' guilty.

[@-pljfb-]

@@fatman7923he is feto supporter i think

[@sirpsychosussy]

As a Glaswegian, there's a lot of morons working on both the Celtic and Rangers boards, but I'm glad they never listen to the meathead section of their fans who think the league (which, to be fair, is far from perfect) is rigged in favour of the other team. This is like a teenagers' argument. It's insane.

[@ReaceHarrison-]

Spot on mate. Plenty of conspiracy being rumoured especially officiating but its never taken seriously by the clubs just the fans expressing their view. The turkish has an unhealthy relationship with football and needs to change.

[@buzzerbeaterbuzzerbeater9001]

You would stop watching football if you knew what was rigged in the last 20 years in european football...

[@VilladsBk]

6:47 absolutely insane, i choose not to comment in the intro about the about the trabzonspor nonsense but this is just completely insane, do THEY have no shame??

[@ouzd.19]

Why should Trabzonspor be ashamed, explain? Are you a fenerbahçe fan?

[@VilladsBk]

@@ouzd.19 i do not support any Turkish club and have never had any interest in Turkish football. But it is clear to me that trabzonspor fans, and generally Turkish fans, have a lot of problems and an unhealthy relationship with football and that turns into violence which caused this recent incident. And for a club to stand behind that is shameful

[@santiagoch2451]

​@@ouzd.19why shouldn't they? Are you a Trabzonspor fan?

[@santiagoch2451]

I don't know if there are any Trabzonspor fans here, but how could you get behind an institution like that? So shameless and childish

[@ouzd.19]

Maybe take a closer look at the subject before assuming anything. Initially, only one fan ran onto the pitch after the game. The video doesn't explain why several fans joined in. I've clarified the reasons in the comments.

[@Diabolos1007]

Why would even "One F**king fan" would invade the pitch​@@ouzd.19

[@FunkyGhostHD]

​@@ouzd.19If you see no problem about "just one fan" invading the pitch with raised fists, then you are completely delusional. That IS the problem. Nothing else. You are also blissfully ignorant about Trabzon "supporters" (hooligans more like) throwing stuff like coins and lighters onto the pitch, and players. You are the one who needs to do more unbiased research about what happened that day.

[@saruman1700]

​@@FunkyGhostHDhe is obviously a trabzonspor supporter 😂 its a shame

[@ouzd.19]

@@FunkyGhostHD Raised fist or not, he was overpowered by the Security before he could do anything. What's the point of kicking a 16-year-old lad lying on the ground in the face? I think I've seen more video footage of the incident and read more articles to judge it better and I also know the league. In the past, similar incidents were handled differently by the football federation (TFF). The İstabul clubs(especially fenerbahçe) are always treated more favourably or get away with less punishment because they have more influence on the federation.

[@FootballDrawn]

It's a mad-house in there

[@lennard9331]

Yep yep, glad to see it hasn't changed since I finally managed to move out

[@lukee7442]

any normal respectable league would’ve just made trabzon play the rest of their season behind closed doors and given some sort of financial penalty

[@Burcaldinho]

The disciplinary board initially gave Trabzon a 6 match ban and a 3 million lira fine. Then it lowered the match ban to 4 and the fine to around 500,000 lira 😂😂 This league and the TFF are ridiculous

[@paulie-g]

That's what happened actually

[@lukee7442]

@@paulie-g they got a 4 match ban and around €30,000 fine if i remember correctly, which is kinda funny to me. if you’re gonna fine them less than 2 players weeks worth of wages, why even bother with the fine lol

[@paulie-g]

@@lukee7442 They got an 8 match ban, which covers the rest of this season and the opening game of the next.

[@lukee7442]

@@paulie-g just looked it up, they initially got a 6 match ban and a 3m turkish lira fine ($93,000), which later got reduced to 4 matches and 448,000 lira fine ($14,000), so basically nothing.

[@power279]

turkish league gone mad just like their political leaders😂

[@AndreasMszz]

Trabzon : "you are at fault because you've beat our fans that wanted (ilegally) to come to beat you up"

[@ouzd.19]

No, that's not what happened. In the match in question, it was just a young fan with a mask who jumped onto the pitch. He was also quickly overpowered by the security forces, there was no reason for fenerbahçe players to beat him up and kick him in the face. That initially led to chaos and then more fans jumped onto the pitch. That could have been avoided by the fenerbahce players by simply going back to the dressing rooms.

[@DogukanSeptem]

@@ouzd.19 spotted the shameless liar.

[@S1lky805]

@@DogukanSeptem That is what happened smh

[@-pljfb-]

@@ouzd.19kes lan kolpacı

[@Muradwalis92]

Adrian just realised how much traffic he gets when he posts about turkey, bro I’ve been telling you for years just do Turkish football and you’re sorted for life 😂

[@RabonaTV]

I actually am making a big effort to cover leagues other than EPL. More Portugal, Turkey, Netherlands, etc. etc.

[@Muradwalis92]

@@RabonaTV and you’re doing a great job bro, even today I shared your videos with my mates. I would say could you do something on Beşiktaş but we are just absolutely terrible this season even with fernando Santos in charge 😂

[@Muradwalis92]

More things just went down 😂 check it out the super cup final

[@krisrizakis9989]

Thanks!

[@RabonaTV]

Wow, thank you so much Kris! That's incredibly kind of you!

[@saltmerchant749]

This is honestly turning into some Byzantine Nika riots stuff. If I was Erdogan I'd be slightly nervous.

[@1907Uche]

Wonderful video. Thanks. Very fairly eprepared. It covers almost all but three important issues you missed: 1- The announcement of the diciplinary commitee was awaited 13 days and left after the elections within the country 2- The CCTV cam recordings of the aisle to the locker room are deleted therefore not considered for the diciplinary actions. (There were a lot more happened there with respect to the statement of the players) 3- Many Fenerbahce supporters were wearing Fenerbahce jerseys while voting in order to show their reaction to the current regime- and their extensions. In addition, participation of 30,000/45,000 members is very big success (maybe no another club can make it out) since it was a very short notice, a week day especially Ramadan day (majority were fasting). It would worth to be emphasized more. There were many people coming to the assembly not only from several cities of Turkey, but also all around the world such as Europe, US, Australia, Central Asia, Far East etc...

[@leventculhan4469]

seeing how much the league is corrupt, I've been betting for galatasaray on league matches and agaisnt galatasaray in european matches, just free money

[@johngullu6817]

Great video. Very detailed, and comprehensive. Honestly better than most turkish media. Your research and understanding of the league shows, keep it up

[@jaskopdx6342]

Not only that but according to them, Fenerbahçe players should've ran instead of fighting back. Also there were things that happened in the corridors that were worse then anything we've seen. Trabzonspor won't release the footage of the tunnel.

[@s_tp2634]

BTW the fine of trabzonspor got lowerd from 6 to 4 matches without fans and from 3m lira to 448 thousand lira ~13k€

[@kamanuvidiluis3952]

Good to see your sense of humour is still around and intact ❤

[@bemo8943]

Turkish will never change smh

[@purrfekt]

Another week of football fans giving their clubs a bad name.

[@jamesnovak6923]

Thanks for following this Adrian

[@Ewerboweski]

Great work on breaking it down. And seeking a truthful perspective. Not either sides propoganda.

[@ReNeyer]

Turkish League doing Turkish League things. Its a shitshow, has been a shitshow will always be a shitshow.

[@golDroger88]

The average football fan is not very intelligent. You cannot reason with them, they will always feel like they are the victim and everyone else is the enemy. Justice will never feel like justice to them, it will always feel like injustice.

[@kaspz421]

When you are in a victim mentality competition and your opponent is a Turkish Süper Lig club😳💀

[@CK-nj5ug]

Thank you for telling the truth and being so accurate in bringing the information

[@TajiriOli]

Ok I was very confused about the whole situation, because it seems pretty obvious who is at fault. Until you said at the end, that Fenerbace has said some things against Sultan Erdogan. That makes it pretty clear, what is going on.

[@azizthanawala4434]

At what point do we stop calling these “criminals” as fans?

[@thelittleprince3652]

It means “down with your justice”, not “fuck your justice”.

[@kieronparr3403]

Ban them from uefa competition until they get their shit together. They did it to the English for years after Heysel

[@FunkyGhostHD]

Please don't bring up something like Heysel when these are two very very different thing. I'd say coupling this with Heysel is very offensive to the victims and families affected by what happened that day. Disrespectful even.

[@kieronparr3403]

@@FunkyGhostHD it's not a comparison to the incident, I'm stating the precedence of WHEN it happened. Two very different things chicken.

[@FunkyGhostHD]

@@kieronparr3403 You are putting a *scandal* in the same bag with a *tragedy* . Indeed, two very different things. Also one happened domestically while the other happened on an away stadium. Also, tragically, people lost their lives in the other event. Nothing crazy happened last year during Galatasaray's Europa League run. Same with their CL run this year as well. And things were exceptionally peaceful during all of Fenerbahçe's matches in Conference League. So I'd say when it comes to Turkish teams, our track record in Europe has been fairly clean for the past 5-10 years. Don't see a reason for a ban over this on anybody but *maybe* Trabzonspor (thier fans are the problem anyways).

[@DavetheDiabetic1]

Hey man, I subbed over a year ago when my club (PSG) was playing yours (2022). I’ve loved the info based content with what seems overall unbiased by your personal opinions. That being said, I’d love to hear your opinion of clubs like PSG and City. While they have certainly spent huge sums over the years that they may/may not have earned, it’s in comparison to clubs that had (in my opinion) had already made football uncompetitive (RM, Bayern, Barca, etc). I’m especially curious about this considering Newcastles acquisition combined with similar lack of competition in the premiership (City vs Liverpool every year). Thanks for the content man! Allez PARIS since 2009

[@mowvu]

nobody likes psg, city, leipzig or any of the oil brands or fizzy drinks brands. the difference with barca, bayern etc is that they earned respect the old fashioned way

[@71CMM]

I suppose it all depends whether you are comfortable with your club being a PR exercise for a regime with a terrible human rights record. Newcastle, Man City and PSG fans all seem pretty comfortable with being funded by blood money.

[@bruh8285]

great analysis thanks for the vid

[@fenadurum]

Just some more context: Trabzonspor is a proxy for Galatasaray, and they do their bidding. They are Galatasaray's backyard too, they give up their best players to GS, and when GS badly needs "points", they provide it too, without much hassle.

[@kifoz78]

nothing ever happened before the match, no provocation, nothing. no one has ever threatened trabzonspor before coming to trabzon. there isn't a reason for trabzonspor to hate everything about fenerbahçe. no injustice has ever happened in the favor of an istanbul team. no team has ever gone to the champions league without a cup. no federation has ever rejected international justice for fenerbahçe. no team has ever passed a law reducing the punishment for match-fixing while on trial. nothing ever happens.

[@TheOnlyTaps]

Great watch and coverage 🙏🏿

[@yoeskalatoryo]

There's no point in explaining what has happened without looking at the bigger picture which is "surprisingly" the politics of Erdogan & AKP who are trying to organize the league in their own terms since their reign began ___ Fenerbahce is a symbol of the secular "old" Turkey, and Erdogan doesn't like that. Just look at the Fenerbahce's total points in the last 15 years and compare them with GS and others. Funnily enough Fenerbahce has the most points but only 1 title ?? 6-7 years ago, again after another win at Trabzon the team bus was SHOT at on the highway with a rifle almost killing the driver along with all the players. I can count at least 10 events that are very similar to this one in the sense they all happened to Fenerbahce's title runs. So Fenerbahce's reaction is not based on this match alone. This match made this "unfair" competition just too obvious and that is the main reason for Fenerbahce's reaction. Just check out the highlights of the game to see how did it get to that end point. Oh btw did I mention bothTrabzon and Galata's favorite political party is AKP. hmmm 🤔

[@Joedaltonisthebestone]

Very good analyses. Fenerbahce president supported the protests against AKP during gezi park event. After that akp target him and try to manipulate the league against fenerbahce. For example if Başakşehir is the club pushing for the champion , then they support that team. Imagine a club has been champion and then can’t even compete for following years.

[@yoeskalatoryo]

@@Joedaltonisthebestone I think the the separation of Fenerbahce from the Turkish league started way earlier than Gezi protests. In the mid to Late 90's early 2000's when the FETÖ organization were at their peak. During that time they were able to break into all the other major clubs. 90 percent of Galatasaray's squad were active members. And following Galatasaray, in Beşiktaş Y. Demirören was appointed as the president of the club in 2004 (just before his home run to buy all of the secular media outlets to support Erdoğan and AKP). So Fenerbahce back then (and I'm honored to say still) was the only unpenetrable club due to its strong bond with secular side of Turkey and Atatürk. After these failed attempts slowly the league began to take the form of Fenerbahce against everyone since whoever was in a competition against Fenerbahce for the title they were backed up by "unseen" forces while Fenerbahce was tagged as the losers of these title runs. What happened in Trabzon happened almost 5-6 times in the last 20 years whenever it was "necessary".

[@yoeskalatoryo]

Another word for Trabzonspor. Trabzon (the city) has been a breeding ground for extreme nationalists and deep government actors (counter-guerilla people) since the early days of Republic, due to its unique position as the official capital of Pontus- Greek kingdom. (there are still old villages where people speak a mixture of turkish and greek and no-one would like to remind this fact to the locals especially in the early days of Nation-State building). Turkish nationalism has always been high on paranoia and because of this paranoia (like most other nationalists in other countries) Trabzon became almost like a "barracks" for deep government actors whom did their parts whenever the situation needed them and not just in football but in other areas as well. And they were always pardoned for whatever they did. I was hoping that the lad who did the video would also mention the "bus shooting incident" that happened 7-8 years ago ( kzbin.info/www/bejne/aaGblHh-ipuWq9E ) which surprisingly right during another title run and a win against Trabzonspor on their home ground. No-one got arrested. (here you can watch how the suspects were treated: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fqjVk5elrMp1sKs ) Whole Fenerbahce team was devastated and with that morale Fenerbahce "surprisingly" lost another title run.

[@LiftandCoa]

but let's be real here: Nobody at Trabzon is delusional enough to believe their own complaint, right? They cant argue "They kicked our fans" when THEY STARTED.

[@SenanHedderman]

Do you not understand the Lira Inflation 3mil is massive

[@vdd]

Our fans ran on the pitch and attacked opposition players, so obviously it's all the player's fault That's a football fans mentality in a nutshell

[@Juneyt22]

The people who attacked, none of them were local, they’ve all came from Europe… the saddest of all is that trabzons president didn’t even condemn the attackers…

[@terryhsiao1745]

Turkish football keeping things classy 😂

[@franohmsford7548]

Trabzon is almost twice as far from Istanbul as either Sofia or Thessaloniki - How much of a possibility is there of Fener joining the Bulgarian or Greek top flights if they go through with this resignation?

[@derbesteistangelo]

Considering the difficult history between Turkey and Greece, I think Fener joining the greek league would be a horrible idea

[@ouzd.19]

fenerbahce can join the Bulgarian league, that's where they belong...😄

[@mnemiq3016]

Thank you for your video. TFF is highly corrupt. TFF, Galatasaray and Trabzonspor belong together and fight against Fenerbahce. Besiktas is rewarded with little things so that they stay quiet. Here are just a few cases out of many: Team bus with all FB players is shot at and nobody is punished. Trabzonspor fans storm the field and attack the players, some of them armed, nobody is punished. Several Fenerbahce players, including the coach, are attacked as they flee to the dressing room and beaten until they faint, video evidence has disappeared and nobody is punished. And that's not all....

[@zeda1338]

Great video 👍🏻😀

[@uriustosh]

It's a clusterfluffel, lads.

[@laser__unicorn]

I'm in awe of how fast you can pronounce Trabzno... Trabztps...Tabzansp... that teams name.

[@rocketkid6555]

Gignac would of score on that protest

[@-pljfb-]

Its nothing about football,its all about politics.

[@mattpryokra2245]

Turkish Football is too dangerous and wild for quite a looooong time 😅

[@hkmarhk]

Great video as usual!

[@010Jordi]

The fener players where definitely defending themselves.

[@will-yx8ms]

Nope

[@MiguelGarcia-ro7fs]

At the end of the day it’s just a game. It’s meant to united us and gives us the high and the lows to make the game entertaining. No one deserves to get hurt and it’s serious not worth physical harming someone for the game. As a sporting, fan it’s fun to banter and make fun of Porto and benficista’s but at the end we’re all cheering for Portugal. We all love the game and let’s stay united!

[@bruh8285]

13:00 this might sound too crazy to be real but it's true

[@nihatanilmis7906]

Its literally the truth. Quite unfortunate

[@bruh8285]

@@nihatanilmis7906 everything in turkey is being used by corrupt politicians for personal gain so unfortunate

[@NuryPPanaligan]

Trabzonspor is correct. The whole TFF should resign. All these crazy incidents have been happening for decades. Shooting the Fenerbahce bus about a decade ago. Stadium fires, locking the ref, punching the ref, stabbing the manager, etc. I don't side with Trabzonspor per se though.

[@alliedatheistalliance6776]

Var must have been handy in the court case

[@GoofyPilled]

Trabzon is just another example of Turkey in general. Just a bunch of clowns running around aimlessly

[@ouzd.19]

You have no idea what you're talking about

[@Minx5892]

@@ouzd.19 He has every idea what he's talking about.

[@dennisatakent]

What were Trabzonspor Fans doing on the turf in the First Place?

[@anlbal6541]

This is completely insincere and hypocritical. Trabzon and Galatasaray sides... They can only tweet, they cannot take action. About a week after the announcement of the penalties, the football federation's delegates began collecting signatures for an extraordinary session. The aim was to change the federation with an early election. Guess which teams did not participate in this action, which was signed by almost half of the teams in the leagues? Trabzon and Gala.. In fact, Gala recently made statements supporting the federation, and they change their statements every month. Unfortunately, like the federation management and some teams, these two teams are under the control of political will. This creates an unfair competitive order.

[@anlbal6541]

Meanwhile, Trabzon's penalty was reduced from 6 matches to 4 matches. It is not a joke...

[@atharv2665]

Can you please make a video about thiago motta and his tactics

[@Umay0000-u5w]

As a fenerbahçe fan I hate this league!

[@keremclsr]

5:50 I don't think so. Cowards wears mask while crime, just like as Trabzon fans.

[@Deven-Gaming]

Fener must look for another country and building up a new club there. I wouldnt stay there for one more season.

[@shen_baba]

Great vid

[@TurkishFollowerOfChrist]

People here seem to forget that fenerbahce stole a championship from Trabzon in 2010/11 via match fixing for which fener got banned from CL and EL for 2 years, by the UEFA. fener never got a penalty from the turkish football association , in the contrary they even said that fener is innocent, whilst the UEFA pushed the turkish football association to be judged accordingly. There are many other reasons why fener is hated in turkish football, as a spectator of all big leagues, there is no comparison to the things fener did and done. - since Galatasaray won the 4th star, fener either comes with no stars on their jerseys (officially they have 3) or they wear jerseys with 5 stars (they even made a request to the association to count their championships from the middle ages [before the super league was created] so they can wear 5 stars officially - as said they still have the stolen trophy of trabzon and are not ashamed - they did match fixing - their president is the spoiled son of of the richest turkish family - they constantly accuse others of being terrorists (FETÖ) supporters and mix politica into sports - they tried to prevent Galatasarays championship in 2012 with a out of nothing system like in belgium, where the top4 play a super final, they introduced this when Gala had secured the championship late in the season - after Galas victory in the UEFA league in 2000, there former president said "we cant reach Galas level anymore, so we should try to pull them down to ours" That is not even everything, just watch feners games for 2-3 weeks and you will understand. Fener is the least one, that has the right to cry, yet the cry the loudest and added another scandal to their list.

[@reddevilsunited_2060]

Those demands by TS fans makes them look clownish ngl.

[@eyyyyooo9064]

Sometimes you need to be kicked about to learn a lesson I suppose 😂🥋

[@BenjiMakoto]

Bit off topic, sorry but 2 video requests: 1) Amorim x LFC - what LFC could expect 2) PL title race, 3 sections: - why LFC will win the PL - why Arsenal will win the PL - why City will win the league

[@azizeryilmaz1036]

The funny thing is that gala and trabzon always talking about tff president but when it was time to vote they voted for the current president and fener Besiktas and many other teams from the league voted against interesting right 😂

[@hzu7433]

The main problem is that the fenerbahce president is corrupt and he has corrupted the turkish league thats all. he has the federation pressured and gets his way most times, fenerbahce players literally assaulted civilians that were apprehended by security, they received no punishment. This season fenerbahce had even more help from the federation than 2010-11 season, when they were found guilty of match fixing on several counts and banned from european competitions. I hope a FIFA investigation happens for this season, nice video overall.

[@stillDRE34]

trabzonspor's punishment has just been reduced to 4 home games ban + 448k try (14k usd) couple of hours ago. fenerbahçe's appeal for egribayat and osterwolde was rejected.

[@amirmohamad474az]

Turkish fans be happy, at least your teams are not playing in Iran's "premier" league.

[@mssarioglu]

Eventually all attackers (trabzonspor fans) were released from custody. And trabzonspor and galatasaray are the only two teams, sorry two of the three teams (the third being başakşehir, owned by a relative of Erdoğan), who did not sign a manifesto that invited TFF to immediate resignation 😂

[@Skills180cc]

Deluded people are trying to make Trabzonspor look pathetic but only know a fraction about what is going on. First since when is it normal to kick on the head when he is held down by the guards especially when you are a pro football player. Also everyone knows how hostile it is between the 2 clubs especially since 2010/11 when Fenerbahçe became champion champions with match fixing and stole Trabzonspors championship. Knowing all of this while there is many more examples like back to 90's, the players of Fenerbahçe were mocking the fans and talking shit the whole match and then labeling our fans as terrorists when in 2012 fener fans burned police cars and also attacked the police directly. Who is the terrorist again? Oh and also a few days ago a group of Fenerbahçe fans attacked a father and daughter because they support galatasaray. And even one of them pulled out a knife! While all comentators and media outlets said that the Trabzonspor fans were storming the field with knifes and stuff when there actually us no one with any knife. Fenerbahçe is a club that accepts injustice as its own right.

[@philanderphillips2309]

I also do not like the racial aspect of this event, as it’s the Black players who are taking the brunt of the drama, as if they’re supposed to simply let the attacking fans have their way with them.

[@Muradwalis92]

I love Turkish football!

[@muhamadnaqiuddinsuhaimi8878]

Trabzonspor has no shame

[@voyarismus]

Fenerbahce = Match-fixing state team

[@dennisatakent]

Decision: Fenerbahçe leads 5-0 in all it’s matches played and unplayed this Year!😉

[@Levo_D_Angelo]

Long story short. We call Trabzonspor in Turkey the little brother of Gaylatasaray. When you look to the table you see, only 2 points are between those 2 teams and Trabzonspor was only team to beat Fenerbahce this year. This Trabzons bstrds, played for Gaylatasaray, to make them champions, thats the whole thing but they would never say that. It all was organized, the masked man werent controlled by the security means even the state or the gouverneur was involved in this. They see Fenerbahce and their President as a threat to their AKP dynasty but surprise. After the election lose somethings may change, they re trying to get more fair and since this week we have foreign VAR refrees from the top 5 leagues. I hope they will stop now hating on Fenerbahce only for the reason they are mostly supporting the Opposition in Turkey and Gaylatasaray and Trabzonspor or Basaksehir are good in licking azzez of the ruling party and gouvernment. They are a shame for football and in my oppinion UEFA should bann these both teams for beeing so unfair towards Fenerbahce since 20 years.

[@galaruler68]

Just relegate both the teams problem solved but that will never happen

[@-pljfb-]

wht the f both?

[@ouzd.19]

Fenerbahçe intention was never to withdraw the team from the league. As always, they bluffed and threatened in order to exert pressure on the Turkish football association and thus to avoid the disciplinary measures. They have used this means of pressure dozens of times in the past. And they have always been successful, as they are now. The match-fixing scandal of 2010-2011 showed just how unfair this football association is. Although UEFA CAS banned fenebahçe from European tournaments for 2 years due to matchfixing, the fenerbahçe football team was not fined by the Turkish Football Association. There is a lot of political calculation behind this, also with regard to the elections, as fenerbahçe also has many fans in Turkey. And Ali Koç, the president of fenerbahçe, is one of the richest businessmen in Turkey, with a lot of influence on politics and the media landscape. It should therefore come as no surprise how unfairly decisions are made in Turkish football. The rich and influential Istanbul clubs are always favoured, so it is all the more ridiculous when this club writes "Fair Competition" on the pitch at the last match.

[@issahgyandi3365]

OK, Galatasaray supporter

[@ouzd.19]

@@issahgyandi3365 You couldn't be more wrong. Maybe you should argue what is wrong with what I wrote.

[@HasanM1907]

2010-2011 Şampiyonu: Fenerbahçe.

[@ouzd.19]

​@@HasanM1907 Well, then you have to ask why Fenerbahçe is listed in the UEFA match-fixing list for season 2010-2011. Why wasn't FB in the Champions League when they were champions? Why was Trabzonspor invited to the Champions League instead?

[@Burcaldinho]

@@ouzd.19 The whole match-fixing scandal you love to talk about is pointless as everyone has been acquitted from the case. Not to mention, the lawmakers that were involved in the case have either fled the country or are in jail. As for the listing, FB is listed because the TFF at the time considered FB as unfit to represent Turkey in the UCL due to the scandal. But again, the scandal is no more and FB is seeking remunerations from the whole ordeal. Btw, you mentioned TS being invited to the UCL that season. Remind me again, why did TS play a playoff fixture against Benfica in that same year and lost?

[@scottysvensson]

Justice for Fenerbahce hope trabson get banned asap

[@LokiLaufeyson-rg9yx]

as A Fenerbahçe hater... i would really like them to play at a lower league...

[@Sirius-Voyager]

🌊 vs…🐤

[@joshdinsmore494]

As someone who speaks Turkish, can confirm that the message was to subscribe to Rabona TV

[@djibrl89]

Abajo el régimen 🎉